one of the rarest, i think. i've got some more moscow video to put up when i can get the tapes out of storage, but nothing great - a long shot of him and wanda walking through the airport!
DG must be ashamed for cutting this piece from the CD "Horowitz in Moscow". They redeemed themselves to some extent by realising "The Last concert" in Hamburg so that we can have another stunning live performance of this polonaise from Horowitz late years. It's completely different than his early recordings for Columbia and RCA but it's by no means less powerful and enchanting.
that i do not know. maybe i can ask a russian musicologist. incidentally, those audience shots are the same audience shots in the "official" concert that was released on video - they're cheated-in. :)
probably not right next, but not as far away as an audience-ear would be. remember that (as i emphasize here and there) many piano videos are volume-leveled, which squashes dynamic extremes and materially distorts the interpretation. for a really loud rendition, likewise volume-leveled, see the 1978 white house rehearsal of this piece and the "carmen" variations i have up.
I love all of Horowitz's performances of this piece but I haven't heard one yet where he didn't miss a note or two! Oh boy it is hard to do this one right!!! His performances were supurbly interesting nevertheless.
he was sanguine about wrong notes - he considered it more important to take risks and express strong feeling. however, there are a number of live performances showing not one flubbed note, not even a part of one. i have some of them up.:)
kasyapa - Didn't he use to say he doesn't want to sound like Jascha Heifetz, i.e. note-perfect? Good for him, I say. But he could get oddly picky when it came to publishing recordings of live performances that had wrong notes in them - witness 1965. Thank God that recital was re-released without touchups.
i think it was 13ths that rach could play...man i would kill to have bigger hands i only can reach 8ths! its always a struggle to play rach and even chopin
well, as history has it, Chopin had incredible flexibility in his hands. Do your stretches! Maybe thats why chopin hated Liszt for having so many octaves in his earlier works, and added things, cus Chopins hands were too small too! No, i dont think so haha. And i think Liszt took his girl. (that bastard Liszt haha)
@SCHneiDen777 haha I didn't know about the gossip with the girl :D However, Chopin had once said that "I have to steal the way Liszt plays my Etudes" ;)
i would love to find a pristine tape - with audio to match. i'm sure there are some tapes out there in russia, recorded from audience - they seemed to be very okay with that in the old slave state.
He's going for it, in terms of strength of sound, but it terms of character it's actually one the plainest performances of the work I've heard from him. The tempo is rigid and there's not the usual variety or shape. It almost reminds me of Kissin's playing- all heavy and no real sense of going anywhere (because there's almost nowhere left to go). Is it the sound quality?
interesting how perceptions differ. i hear heroic drive and a new kind of interpretation. but you know the piano well, too. i'm not sure about how much of an influence the sound quality has - the performance of the next day wasn't sterling - i much prefer this one, or the later video in vienna.
Yeah, it may be to do with the sound quality but it seems very level to me. I like the earlier recordings best. I hear energy going into this and there but the sound gives me the impression that he wasn't offering the same variety as normal. I prefer when he holds something right back, leaving room to explode after. I'm sure his rhythm was rarely so straight in this piece though. I find it too unyielding in places where he normally eases up before to vary the character.
as for the evenness, my guess is that this is due to volume-leveling circuitry in the camera microphones. the concert of the next day show a wide dynamic range, and the vienna video of the next year even more so. this was a recurring problem for horowitz, as with the 1978 white house concert - the t.v. people, as the plaskin bio says, pushed his sound through a compressor
(cont.) the same thing happens when i've recorded myself in the videos you see here on y/t, because the vidcam has volume-leveling circuitry. something to be wary of when listening to pirated tapes - sometimes the mic signals were fed through levelers.
i've never heard him play it better. miles ahead of his performance taped on "60 minutes" in 1977, though he may have been holding back in '77 for the liszt sonata.
it is a shame he never played much Bach.
RemovdSande11 5 months ago
4:40 someone should check the audience for a dead person because i heard a shotgun blast.
ValdemarDragunov 8 months ago
My God, he was so inspired here.
olivleonardo 8 months ago
What is the guy saying at the begenning ??
renaudgg 10 months ago
renaudgg - i can hear him quite clearly. can you not?
kasyapa 10 months ago
@kasyapa Well yes but hes saying like: In Tchaikosy *something* ... grand concert hall?
whats after Tchaikosky
renaudgg 10 months ago
What color, what drama, what excitement! Few pianists have ever even approached such heights, and hardly any still live today!
AldenHardaway 10 months ago
There should be a mandatory retirement age for concert pianists. Thirty-five to honour Liszt!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew
OMG! And what would one do to all those great ones that started their carreers after 40?
Rotebuehl1 1 year ago
no glases... wow
chesterfieldoriental 2 years ago
contacts, possibly. :)
kasyapa 2 years ago
Linses maybe? xD
Lity10 2 years ago
possible!
kasyapa 2 years ago
I like this version of his Chopin Polonaise the best. What a performance at age 83!
a6282 2 years ago 2
where he summoned that energy from, we do not know - but would like to.
kasyapa 2 years ago
one question: are you a Filipino?
vrljikkerssfesst 2 years ago
no. why?
kasyapa 2 years ago
oh, ok..... just asking....
vrljikkerssfesst 2 years ago
why? why not ask if i were indian or swedish?
kasyapa 2 years ago
no, because your username here, "kasyapa" means "it still fits"... so, i assumed that u are a filipino...
vrljikkerssfesst 1 year ago
ah! i named myself after buddha's lay disciple, kasyapa, the founder of zen.
kasyapa 1 year ago
ah, ok......
vrljikkerssfesst 1 year ago
wow. chopin is amazing..
Powerslider 2 years ago 2
one of the rarest, i think. i've got some more moscow video to put up when i can get the tapes out of storage, but nothing great - a long shot of him and wanda walking through the airport!
kasyapa 2 years ago
ITS A VAMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol 5 stars
kingleon1616 2 years ago
he certainly gave life. :)
kasyapa 2 years ago
well done--such energy!
henryhar 2 years ago 2
Shostakovitch died in 1975 so I doubt it.
clivez1 2 years ago
This is great! Wasn't it published in CD?
leomulder 2 years ago
Better than the live performance which had a few "blips" but even that overshadowed all other younger pianists attempts!
rabengeraun 2 years ago
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Interesting, I did not yet see this one before.
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Greetings,
Rolf
Historical classical recordings
European Archive, Paris
EuropeanArchive 3 years ago
Barbara walters ruined everything.
piedijon 3 years ago
Fascinating clip and what a performance!
DG must be ashamed for cutting this piece from the CD "Horowitz in Moscow". They redeemed themselves to some extent by realising "The Last concert" in Hamburg so that we can have another stunning live performance of this polonaise from Horowitz late years. It's completely different than his early recordings for Columbia and RCA but it's by no means less powerful and enchanting.
Thank you, kasyapa!
Spiritakis 3 years ago
who was the guy at the end with white hair and big framed glasses ? looked like Shostakovich ?
Timmytimtimtm 3 years ago
that i do not know. maybe i can ask a russian musicologist. incidentally, those audience shots are the same audience shots in the "official" concert that was released on video - they're cheated-in. :)
kasyapa 3 years ago
cool, well if u asked let me know, don't forget about me...
Timmytimtimtm 3 years ago
holy s...! here's a perfect example of what the magic sounds like, missed notes and all.
ewedude 3 years ago
the god of the piano!!!!
lisztbest 3 years ago 9
wow just amazing. He is so old and he ownz on the piano
rmpc73 3 years ago 3
Wonderful
ilovemingmingg 3 years ago
Horowitz è unico.... come interpreta lui chopin solo pochi ce la possono fare.. fantastico!!!
banchieri10 3 years ago
the mic must be right next to the piano, this is loud, even for him.
serox901 3 years ago
probably not right next, but not as far away as an audience-ear would be. remember that (as i emphasize here and there) many piano videos are volume-leveled, which squashes dynamic extremes and materially distorts the interpretation. for a really loud rendition, likewise volume-leveled, see the 1978 white house rehearsal of this piece and the "carmen" variations i have up.
kasyapa 3 years ago
I love all of Horowitz's performances of this piece but I haven't heard one yet where he didn't miss a note or two! Oh boy it is hard to do this one right!!! His performances were supurbly interesting nevertheless.
audiophile71 3 years ago
he was sanguine about wrong notes - he considered it more important to take risks and express strong feeling. however, there are a number of live performances showing not one flubbed note, not even a part of one. i have some of them up.:)
kasyapa 3 years ago
kasyapa - Didn't he use to say he doesn't want to sound like Jascha Heifetz, i.e. note-perfect? Good for him, I say. But he could get oddly picky when it came to publishing recordings of live performances that had wrong notes in them - witness 1965. Thank God that recital was re-released without touchups.
Mortimer123 3 years ago
Also, look how old he is.
JimiHendrixANDVADER 3 years ago
The Leningrad performance which was done a couple of days after the Moscow performances were even better than this!
brtherjohn 4 years ago
his hands weren't as big as rachmaninoff's, as far as i noticed. i bet he can reach 10 notes.
libetta 4 years ago
rach could reach 12ths or 13ths i think, i can reach 10ths and my hands aren't really that big.
ljoekelsoey4 4 years ago
me too. i can reach an 11th but fully stretched. how long are your hands from the palm up?
libetta 4 years ago
i think it was 13ths that rach could play...man i would kill to have bigger hands i only can reach 8ths! its always a struggle to play rach and even chopin
lentoagitato 3 years ago
chopin played on a smaller piano, hes hands werent as big as his music lets on :P
ljoekelsoey4 3 years ago
ooo that makes me feel a lil better :D
lentoagitato 3 years ago
well, as history has it, Chopin had incredible flexibility in his hands. Do your stretches! Maybe thats why chopin hated Liszt for having so many octaves in his earlier works, and added things, cus Chopins hands were too small too! No, i dont think so haha. And i think Liszt took his girl. (that bastard Liszt haha)
SCHneiDen777 3 years ago 8
@SCHneiDen777 haha I didn't know about the gossip with the girl :D However, Chopin had once said that "I have to steal the way Liszt plays my Etudes" ;)
nassosmichas 7 months ago
Correct, Horowitz could reach a 10th.
Pladask 3 years ago
i can reach 11
lol but not like press down the whole 11th but i can reach it. i can press exactly down to 10th.
laqin007 3 years ago
marvelous
tempact482 4 years ago
truly one of his finest.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Oh my...Just mindblowing.
I daresay it's the greatest I've ever heard of this giant and difficult work...
GreatPianists 4 years ago
that makes me smile. i saw this performance first in 1986-1987 and was blown away. his fire was never hotter than here.
kasyapa 4 years ago
perfect octaves, god gotta love the improvement from the japan concert.
IAMLISZT 4 years ago
a miraculous return of life. he sounded great in the '85 carnegie return concert when i heard him, too.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Very good performance, better than the one he gave in the actual concert, in my opinion!
amishan92 4 years ago
very much agreed - that was noted at the time. he was strong and more daring here.
kasyapa 4 years ago
speedy!!! More that Martha!
wlprwell 4 years ago
he really gives it his all - like he was waiting all this time.
kasyapa 4 years ago
The video quality is very bad, but you can still here Horowitz's playing it very well. Especially at 01:28. Just great!
Jeroentje6713 4 years ago
i would love to find a pristine tape - with audio to match. i'm sure there are some tapes out there in russia, recorded from audience - they seemed to be very okay with that in the old slave state.
kasyapa 4 years ago
yeah i know he usually has lighter touch
lonewolf604 4 years ago
do you find it too heavy? i think it's thrilling passionate - less scatty than his performances of this piece are. driving, indomitable.
kasyapa 4 years ago
well i think its just the video quality i cant tell
lonewolf604 4 years ago
He's going for it, in terms of strength of sound, but it terms of character it's actually one the plainest performances of the work I've heard from him. The tempo is rigid and there's not the usual variety or shape. It almost reminds me of Kissin's playing- all heavy and no real sense of going anywhere (because there's almost nowhere left to go). Is it the sound quality?
cziffra1980 4 years ago
interesting how perceptions differ. i hear heroic drive and a new kind of interpretation. but you know the piano well, too. i'm not sure about how much of an influence the sound quality has - the performance of the next day wasn't sterling - i much prefer this one, or the later video in vienna.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Yeah, it may be to do with the sound quality but it seems very level to me. I like the earlier recordings best. I hear energy going into this and there but the sound gives me the impression that he wasn't offering the same variety as normal. I prefer when he holds something right back, leaving room to explode after. I'm sure his rhythm was rarely so straight in this piece though. I find it too unyielding in places where he normally eases up before to vary the character.
cziffra1980 4 years ago
as for the evenness, my guess is that this is due to volume-leveling circuitry in the camera microphones. the concert of the next day show a wide dynamic range, and the vienna video of the next year even more so. this was a recurring problem for horowitz, as with the 1978 white house concert - the t.v. people, as the plaskin bio says, pushed his sound through a compressor
or something and it came out very even.
kasyapa 4 years ago
(cont.) the same thing happens when i've recorded myself in the videos you see here on y/t, because the vidcam has volume-leveling circuitry. something to be wary of when listening to pirated tapes - sometimes the mic signals were fed through levelers.
kasyapa 4 years ago
Odd. He's really pounding it out here, but there's nowhere near the degree of shape that you'd expect from him. Still great though.
cziffra1980 4 years ago
incredible stuff...
tompilk 4 years ago
i've never heard him play it better. miles ahead of his performance taped on "60 minutes" in 1977, though he may have been holding back in '77 for the liszt sonata.
kasyapa 4 years ago