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  • What episode/season was this?

  • @crash86ed Season 1, episode 4. The Hit List, or Calderone's Return (Part 1)

  • I noticed Jim Zubiena in Manhunter, he played a guy called Spurgen

  • Dirty Harry wouldn't stand a chance against this guy

  • amasing

    

  • don't fuck with Napoleon Dynamite

  • 2:14 ATARI TANKS.

  • 5 people was shot by the Mozambique Drill ;)

  • If your limo driver totes a S.P.A.S. youre already gone.

  • I need to watch this show

  • In slo mo you can see the hammer drop three times but you only hear two shots,so I think Hollywood cheated and sped up the draw.Look very closely at the hammer.It drops three times and only two shots are heard.In regular speed you can't tell it but slo mo shows the truth.

  • @profsat5 actually i watch more carefully you will see/hear that the sound of the shots, the reason being that like many shows back then the sound of the real shots were replaced the another in editing.

    It is actually three shots fired as the mozambique drill.

    Jim Zubiena was actually an accomplished IPSC shooter back then.

  • @deltafox47 Yes, we are in agreement then.They screwed it up in editing.

  • @profsat5 look at other quick draw videos theres one i watched called the quickest draw in the world you hear 2 shots yet 3 targets are shot then in slow mo its shown that its so fast that you cant hear the last shot

  • Do they have the Argentinian's final gunfight posted anywhere?

  • The thing I don't get about the Mozambique drill is when you should use the drill. See if you think about it the two shots to the sternum may cause the armed target to twitch his fingers and shoot you back. Sure I would Mozambique a target that didn't have a gun pointed directly at me or at a farther distance than this video. If he was five to 15 feet from me like in this video I'd shoot him as many times in the head as possible to disable his brain stem.

  • @IMFDB I've been a Navy security policeman for half my career and you can bet we did a lot of practical pistol, shotgun and rifle work.

    In a stressful and fast-moving shooting you're doing pretty well to hit the bad guy at all. Look at all these officer-involved shootings where 30-40 rounds are fired and the BG gets hit, maybe 5-10 times.

    The head is way too small and mobile a target to go for at first. 'Anchor' the BG with 2 center of mass shots then go for the head if necessary.

  • Matter of fact if you really want to drop a BG you might want to go for the pelvic area.

    It's simple engineering; if the supports are damaged, the building can no longer stand.

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  • @flattop44sc I said the PELVIS, NOT the 'dick'.

    The pelvis structurally supports the body. Damage to the pelvic bone is likely to destroy a BG's ability to stand or move, preventing any meaningful resistance,

  • This is still my favorite bad guy from Miami Vice.

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  • The hitman's music (the eerie keybord part) sounds kind of like the Halloween theme.

    Jim Zubiena was the shooting instructor on Miami Vice. He didn't have to rehearse the shooting scenes. He was doing what he does best.

  • "Whatsamattahwidatkidah?"

    That's what they call projection: blaming others for our own faults. They hired a bodyguard who couldn't keep them alive.

  • This guy is definitely a PRO. Notice how he jerks the shotgun sharply forward with each shot to get that extra little projectile velocity to ensure a kill. :-)

  • @Vamavid Hahahaha! :)

  • 5 people rode in Jim's limo.

  • 5 people took their eyes off Jim

  • Franchi SPAS-12 no less too.

  • I still can't get over the "what's the matter with that kid, huh?" guy's rescue vest shirt.

    Oh, and this scene is amazing.

  • Jim Zubiena was a real champion practical competition shooter in the 1980's. Story was, they intended to film him and speed it up. Zubiena, as with all high-level competition shooters, was good enough that camera tricks were not needed.

  • 1:57

    Holy shit.

  • Appendix carry FTW

  • yeah this scene is so cool

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  • isn't that the lopez villa from scarface?

  • In all of the movies of Michael Mann you see some bad ass firefights and tactical drills. Mann is da MAN ;-)

  • @flasher555 Was "Stingray" (1978) a Michael Mann film? It starred the lovely & talented Sherry Jackson as a female vigilante/hitwoman. Was Mann even directing films back in those days?

  • @bucky468 since the 60s its not a mm film... not at all

  • @TonySmallz That might explain why the flick was hardly noticed. Kind of a cheesy movie although Sherry shines above everybody else. If MM directed it that film would've been a cult classic for sure.

    Really? MM has been directing films since the 60's? Didn't know that one. Thanks.

  • I'll never look at a cup of coffee and a half-eaten donut with sprinkles the same way ever again. This episode was INTENSE.

  • Moral of the story? Don't trust your limo driver if he's wearing shooting glasses.

  • @mikeyjsc and an afro

  • @mikeyjsc You're absolutely hilarious. The static mafia stereotype stops and looks at him, "kinda shades ah doze??", and the argentinian just gives him that loopy grin. I fell back right along with that cop<{-D

  • @volvo242tank Yeah if not the shades, then the ear plugs! What kind of hitman uses earplugs?

  • @BTeamHooligan One that likes actually hearing things and not going deaf.

    You CAN and WILL go deaf by shooting too much without hearing protection.

  • @mace1337 It might give away the fact that your about to shoot someone. Limo drivers don't usually wear earplugs.  Do they?

  • @BTeamHooligan

    Not necessarily. If you put on earplugs deep enough into the canal and they are not a color that will grab attention, other people may not immediately notice you are wearing them.

    The other factor: the hair of the hitman may have been long enough to conceal enough of the ear to hide the plugs.

  • @BTeamHooligan

    As for the glasses, that can be explained by the fact that it was the 80s.

    People in that time did wear glasses with lenses and frames of unusual colors, including yellow. However, yellow and orange lens sunglasses are still available.

  • @Watcher3223 Well have it your way. But even in the '80's if my limo driver opened my door wearing ear plugs and shooting glasses, I'm thinking something aint right.

  • @BTeamHooligan

    Maybe. But again, it's possible for the earplugs to not have been noticed.

    As for the glasses, again, yellow lenses on aviator frames do not necessarily mean they're safety glasses.

    And, some actual sunglasses can double as safety glasses, such as the Gargoyles Classic worn by Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The Terminator," which are ANSI rated as safety glasses.

  • @Watcher3223 Ok you've killed it. Everyone else sees the humor in it.

  • @BTeamHooligan

    I believe you were being serious, rather than facetious, in trying to point out inconsistencies in a fictional scenario that was more realistic than typical of movies and television and has more plausibility than trying to make bullets curve against the laws of physics ala "Wanted" or a porcelain Glock ala "Die Hard 2."

  • @Watcher3223 You believed wrong. But Other than Zubiena's draw, there is not a whole lot that is realistic about this scenario. It's still just a tv show.

  • @Watcher3223 And for the time, Miami Vice was "more" realistic than other cop/crime shows before it, but still nowhere near the realm of reality. Michael Mann is known for his more realistic portrayals of gun fights in his movies. But there is still a great deal of theatrics involved in them. He definitely loves the 2-3 ft. muzzle flashes.

  • @mikeyjsc and a fast draw rig that sticks out from his belt..

  • @mikeyjsc LMAO

  • This is from Miami Vice people!!!!!

  • Nice 1911.

  • Napoleon Dynamite's dad was the Argentinian!

  • His name is Michael Mann -- two N's

  • Michael Man(director) did a scene in this in Miami Vice

  • great scene in slow motion!!! :-)

  • lol, he even unload and show clear.

  • hahaha! that's right.

  • Yes, that's him. Mann uses him as a technical consultant on many of his films.

  • Man used a shot(scene) in a 80"s TV series Miami Vice

  • Isoceles, not weaver -and check 360 on the way out :)

  • The guy in the yellow should have shot instead of saying freeze. Instead he ended up getting owned.

  • @DEP717 The cop who got shot by the hitman was actually MV's chief stuntman.

  • I just noticed that the guy who gets shot has a wire attached to his leg, maybe to set off the squibs in his sweater.

  • Modern technique, weaver stance, mozambique drill. Consumate professional.

    Evil wins because good is stupid.

  • That is NOT the Weaver stance! This is not Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique" either. Finally, this is not a Mozambique drill either. This is a controlled pair from an isosceles stance. It's what professional shooters and serious tactical pistol shooters have been doing for years. Weaver and Cooper are good but it's time to move on.

  • Actually, it is a Mozambique. After the 2 to the chest, he does move up for the headshot.

  • just realized that's an interesting way of holding a shotgun...

  • It reduces recoil.

  • Don't try it on a scattergun without a heatshield, though.

  • classic mv scene! Draw! pow! pow!

  • Superb demonstration of the Mozambique Drill.

  • I still say he deserved to get shot for wearing that gay-ass yellow shirt.

  • The slow motion clip made that handgun sound like it fired high velocity grenades with extraordinary lack of explosive power.

  • pwn3d n00b

  • i remember this episode back in the day as a teen. i didn't know anything about tactics at that time but thought how the hell did he draw his weapon so fast!

  • When I first saw this episode in 1985, I was impressed with the rapidity in which "The Argentinian" hitman drew his weapon and popped that third guy. One of my favorite scenes in Miami Vice!

  • 2+1 shot, but last one doesn't have "Great" muzzel fire. doesn't it....?

  • May have been it was a bad blank :) ..the re-dubbed shot sounds are off also.

    ..Ahh the 80s :) ..great scene though

  • A Classic, Thanks for posting!

  • sweet sweet double tapping that ass

  • Orgasmic form XD

  • What the hell is Switech doing with his pants down on the stakeout. He could have backed his buddy up if he wasn't playing with himself. Now he has to watch the video where his partner gets get schooled in the quick draw in slow motion, over and over again.

  • I saw that scene almost 25 years ago and still remember how the hi speed of that guy surprise me. Sorry if I`m not clear with my speech.

    An argentinean...

  • good lesson...alwys watch what your chaffeur is doing for taking so long before starting the car...

    that's a carry mode by the Phillipines sparrow boys...fast indeed

  • DAAAAAAAAAAAMN that fucker is fast!! nice draw and form

  • LMAO. That guy got so dominated. Soooo dominated.

  • His son Napoleon Dynamite would become a disappointment.

  • HAHAHAHA

  • That's a full size govt model. Impressive.

  • I've never seen anyone fire a shotgun like that. His form with that 1911 is impeccable, but the way he fires that SPAS-12 looks so...impractical? I don't know. Considering he seems to be a professional shooter, I'd assume there is some method to his madness. Anyone care to explain?

  • Well the SPAS-12 is autoloading, so need to have a hand in the pump position. The reason why he does it like that is probably just because he needs to withdrawal the gun from the car without it being seen and thats just how he ended up holding it. At that distance, accuracy wasn't a concern, so no need to adopt a new stance. It isn't practical, but under the situation was efficient.

  • he also fakes shooting with it.

    if you'll look closely, the shotgun never fires. it's just him acting as if it did (and the window exploding with some sfx). i suspect the gun is a non-firing replica.

  • The Shotgun scene is just some of producer Michael Mann's visual hollywood fluff(was the 1980's) ..The Pistol scene is really why Zubiena(an IPSC Pistol Champion) was cast ;)

    This Scene has also been used in police academies and firearms training..to show recruits/newbies how fast things can happen if they take their eye off the ball ..err so to speak :)

  • Isn't "efficient under the situation" pretty much the definition of practical? The method may not have been "orthodox", but the result proved it practical nevertheless.

    I recall in an interview Jim said that he just wanted to figure out some way to utilize the folding hook, because it was otherwise useless.

  • @EahtaVIII

    I read somewhere that the reason he did this was because the SPAS12 is really painful to shoot with the stock down. It is also used to prevent the muzzle of the shotgun from climbing.

    It seems believeable because the folding stock is all metal with no cushioning at all.

  • what pistol was that?

  • 1911

  • There were some folks that talked to him about that, seems that he was doing the standard rack and show clear that is post ipsc habit and Mann liked it and left it in the take. Least thats what I heard several years ago. Mann usually picked from the best to show a particular skill in a guest start or one time actor.

  • looks like the third shot was a malfunc. maybe that's why he removed the mag and racked the slide in the end. there were only two muzzle flashes. but that guy's got skill.

  • the third shot simply appeared between frames, when the camera shutter was closed. You can see some sparks. About the removing of the clip and emptying the chamber, I guess PointyShinyBurning has a point. He doesn't want to be shot in the back with it by someone. Though the other guy's revolver was there too...

  • There are actually 3 rounds fired, 2 shots to center mass and 1 to the head.

    This is referred to as the Mozambique Drill.

    Jim is a highly accomplished combat shooter and his scenes are the real deal with regard to technique.

    Picture perfect in form with no wasted motion whatsoever.

    Truly a master with the 1911 pistols.

  • Damnit he was so nervous @ 1:10 he left his prints on the S.P.A.S. 12 gauge!

  • he touched the shotgun with his fingers before putting his gloves on!

  • @henriquejbmarcos He sure did.

  • Something you didn't comment - he carries in the appendix position, inside waist band. Gabe Suarez totes this as the fastest. I guess he's right.

    Funny that they knew this 30 years ago yet noone talked about, everyone carried behind the point of the hip.

  • why did he dump the mag?

    ditching the gun is good but why not huck it in a bush

  • Maybe so no one shoots him in the back with it as he walks away?

  • I had watched this video a few times before but never noticed the cable they use to yank the stunt guy backwards when he gets shot. Look at the line coming out of his pants leg!

  • That cable isn't a jerk rig line -- it's probably for triggering the squibs that simulate the gunshot hits. You can see a similar cable in Heat (also a Michael Mann work), when McAuley (DeNiro) shoots Van Zant (the money launderer).

  • I think he also cocked the hammer as he drew the gun. It's back before he shoots it.

  • It's a 1911 carried cocked(hammer back) and locked (safety on). He just drew the weapon and flipped the safety down and pulled the trigger.

  • AKA Condition one

  • the soundtrack of the double tap Zubiana did wasn't even close to the actual speed of the two shots. normally a double tap like that is around 0.25 second at the fastest.  The sound was nowhere near 0.25.

  • I'm sure out of a tuned 1911, he gets closer to .1 seconds between shots. I'm no GM, and I get .16s out of an M&P. You're right though, the sound was off.

  • The guy on the left leaving the building AND the guy saying freeze! should get shot for wearing those gay-ass shirts

    Slow Mo sounds like TANKS on ATARI 2600

  • Hahaha re: tanks. You're right!

  • lol @ flying

  • Nice lesson mate

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