@grimcity We do live in Lousy-ana-stan, Grim... Here we just vote for whomever _probably_ isn't in the KKK, though I have my suspicions about Nagin...
It is an OPTIONAL insurance plan, as we all know and that means if I want to purchase this OPTION I can - the government is not just giving it out. We have insurance and I think those that object so much already have ins. and don't give a dam abt anyone else. Sad and sorry people out there.
why is it when the "christians" have to actually respect the teachings of their god they revert to the nastiest most self-centered "I got mine...Fuck you!" attitude?
These are your brothers and sisters and children.
Is this what you want from your neighbors when you need a hand?
Is this the kind of world you want? Let some child die because her mother works in a sweatshop in Texas?
Actually, the bill is written to leave illegal immigrants out of the government support part of the bill. It also increases computerization of records, which will cut down on both scams and the "legal" end of drug dealing (think "pain clinics in FL doling out oxycontin like candy and not recording it.") Besides, the public option is NOT the same as "public funding." It refers to who RUNS the plan. Some people will buy the public insurance with their $. Some will buy private with gov support.
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So in addition to paying for my health insurance, I have to pay for the poor? I'd rather give my money to charity rather then have the government take it from me in taxes. BTW, it the poor will gives up cigarettes, alcohol, and having more children then they can provide for, they may have enough money to get their own health care. I pay enough taxes.
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Nancy Pelosi in coverup to hide fact that House bill WILL give free medical care to millions of Illegal Aliens! Mary, please do not allow this to happen. We cannot take care of our veterans and their families but we should be expected to pay for these criminals. Also, this bill is junk! PLEASE VOTE NO!
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If it is not stated in this bill that illegal aliens cannot receive this insurance, they will have the same benefits as honest, hard working Americans; paid for by you and me. This health care bill is crap. Will our wonderful senators use the same health care bill? NO!
I don't know if illegals are covered but despite your misgivings, it would make common sense. You can catch a disease from an illegal just as easy as from a citizen.
Of course, if private employers would man up and hire citizens at a decent wage instead of trying to maximize profit by hiring cheap illegals we wouldn't have an illegal problem to begin with. They go where the work is. If they weren't hired they wouldn't come over.
The Senate HELP bill gives good insurance to everyone at a reasonable price. It's full coverage including prescriptions, children's health and mental health. The max out of pocket you have to spend in any year is $5,000.
Why is healthcare so high? Because of the lawyers and illegals. Fix THAT problem first.
Socialized medicine will destroy our country and is a direct attack on the elderly -- no government committee should tell our parents and grandparents what kind of treatment is approved for them or not.
Lawsuits make up 1% of health costs and States like Texas that curb lawsuits still have high costs. The government through Medicare already treats our grandparents (and parents) and most people are every satisfied with it. Do you want to get rid of Medicare and force retired people to pay for private insurance?
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The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care.
The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board "will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment."
Socilizing medicine is not about the cost of private insurance, but power and control.
Private insurers already make these kind of decisions. There are cases where insurance companies have denied treatments or refused to pay for treatments.
You ignored my question, Medicare, which is basically socialized medicine, treats our grandparents and parents. They already have a board that decides this. Does it look like their care is worse that yours or mine? If govt care is bad, should Medicare be taken away and they should get private insurance like everyone else ?
So I'm looking for the quote of yours ""will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment." in either the House or Senate Bill and I can't find it in either, but I did find it in other comments to article, So this leads me to wondering if that quote was just a scare tactic someone made up. If you can find it in the bill, I'd be interested, I
More than one in five Louisianians is without any health insurance. America's infant mortality rate is tied with Cuba, and Louisiana has one of the highest IM rates in the US. With the new 'higher' min.wage, a worker earns = $15,080/yr.. The avg. cost of health ins.. for a fam. of 4 = $13,150. That leaves $1,930 to live on; for food, housing, EVERYTHING! In the richest nation in the world. Somebody needs to wake up. Ms. Landrieu, the alarm clock is ringing!
I've emailed the Senator about this a couple of times, and she always responds with the typical "working within the private sector" schpeel.
I didn't get rude, but I did state flat-out that I'm convinced she's just another Vitter.
Do we have any progressive Dem politicians? All of our Dems are DINOS. Meh!
grimcity 2 years ago 2
@grimcity We do live in Lousy-ana-stan, Grim... Here we just vote for whomever _probably_ isn't in the KKK, though I have my suspicions about Nagin...
IronyValue 2 years ago
Funny 'cause it's true.
grimcity 2 years ago
Landrieu will never defend citizens, she is a corporation lawyer in front of congress not really a senator.
frigoria 2 years ago 4
It is an OPTIONAL insurance plan, as we all know and that means if I want to purchase this OPTION I can - the government is not just giving it out. We have insurance and I think those that object so much already have ins. and don't give a dam abt anyone else. Sad and sorry people out there.
maryfrances12 2 years ago 3
why is it when the "christians" have to actually respect the teachings of their god they revert to the nastiest most self-centered "I got mine...Fuck you!" attitude?
These are your brothers and sisters and children.
Is this what you want from your neighbors when you need a hand?
Is this the kind of world you want? Let some child die because her mother works in a sweatshop in Texas?
Grow up and grow a heart.
snarkishone 2 years ago 10
Actually, the bill is written to leave illegal immigrants out of the government support part of the bill. It also increases computerization of records, which will cut down on both scams and the "legal" end of drug dealing (think "pain clinics in FL doling out oxycontin like candy and not recording it.") Besides, the public option is NOT the same as "public funding." It refers to who RUNS the plan. Some people will buy the public insurance with their $. Some will buy private with gov support.
jfsabl 2 years ago 5
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So in addition to paying for my health insurance, I have to pay for the poor? I'd rather give my money to charity rather then have the government take it from me in taxes. BTW, it the poor will gives up cigarettes, alcohol, and having more children then they can provide for, they may have enough money to get their own health care. I pay enough taxes.
DrimbleWedge50 2 years ago
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Nancy Pelosi in coverup to hide fact that House bill WILL give free medical care to millions of Illegal Aliens! Mary, please do not allow this to happen. We cannot take care of our veterans and their families but we should be expected to pay for these criminals. Also, this bill is junk! PLEASE VOTE NO!
yarabie4 2 years ago
Actually our Senators and their staff will be required to get health care through this bill, That requirement is part of the bill.
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 3
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If it is not stated in this bill that illegal aliens cannot receive this insurance, they will have the same benefits as honest, hard working Americans; paid for by you and me. This health care bill is crap. Will our wonderful senators use the same health care bill? NO!
yarabie4 2 years ago
I don't know if illegals are covered but despite your misgivings, it would make common sense. You can catch a disease from an illegal just as easy as from a citizen.
Of course, if private employers would man up and hire citizens at a decent wage instead of trying to maximize profit by hiring cheap illegals we wouldn't have an illegal problem to begin with. They go where the work is. If they weren't hired they wouldn't come over.
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 7
She won't be working for me if she votes for this crap. People, you need to wake up and realize what kind of junk health care this is.
Mary, vote NO!!!!!
yarabie4 2 years ago
The Senate HELP bill gives good insurance to everyone at a reasonable price. It's full coverage including prescriptions, children's health and mental health. The max out of pocket you have to spend in any year is $5,000.
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 2
Why is healthcare so high? Because of the lawyers and illegals. Fix THAT problem first.
Socialized medicine will destroy our country and is a direct attack on the elderly -- no government committee should tell our parents and grandparents what kind of treatment is approved for them or not.
hpcons 2 years ago
Lawsuits make up 1% of health costs and States like Texas that curb lawsuits still have high costs. The government through Medicare already treats our grandparents (and parents) and most people are every satisfied with it. Do you want to get rid of Medicare and force retired people to pay for private insurance?
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 7
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The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care.
The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board "will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment."
Socilizing medicine is not about the cost of private insurance, but power and control.
hpcons 2 years ago
Private insurers already make these kind of decisions. There are cases where insurance companies have denied treatments or refused to pay for treatments.
You ignored my question, Medicare, which is basically socialized medicine, treats our grandparents and parents. They already have a board that decides this. Does it look like their care is worse that yours or mine? If govt care is bad, should Medicare be taken away and they should get private insurance like everyone else ?
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 6
So I'm looking for the quote of yours ""will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment." in either the House or Senate Bill and I can't find it in either, but I did find it in other comments to article, So this leads me to wondering if that quote was just a scare tactic someone made up. If you can find it in the bill, I'd be interested, I
Chrisfs59 2 years ago 7
@hpcons
Its funny how people have been convinced that illegals and poor people are our problem.
I have some news for you.
They have no power the illegals and less fortunate have just enough money to survive.
It's the people with the power that you should be worried about.
CosmosPrivateer 2 years ago
More than one in five Louisianians is without any health insurance. America's infant mortality rate is tied with Cuba, and Louisiana has one of the highest IM rates in the US. With the new 'higher' min.wage, a worker earns = $15,080/yr.. The avg. cost of health ins.. for a fam. of 4 = $13,150. That leaves $1,930 to live on; for food, housing, EVERYTHING! In the richest nation in the world. Somebody needs to wake up. Ms. Landrieu, the alarm clock is ringing!
Cinnamombunz 2 years ago 5