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  • 1 why doesn't the quran tell the world is spherical and 2 the earth revolves around the sun and 3 the sun is a star [even though the sun being a star was proposed by few long before Christ] why cant it CLEARLY say these 3 simple things

  • @CYBERJITH Because the Quran is a book of S I G N S not S C I E N C E. The quran says it's spherical in an indirect way.

    The quran is a book of guidance, the scientific verses helps people to understand that the quran is the word of Allah.

    Almost after each scientific verse, Allah says, "This is a sign for the ones who can think". A

  • @Arsehel i am not telling it to prove anything all i am telling is that when it talks about the sun setting in murky water it could give a SIGN that the earth goes around the sun or when it talks about the earth being stretched or carpet like it could give a SIGN that it is spherical if it tells of the bigbang why wouldn't it tell these simple things, these things were not known so it was not told

  • @CYBERJITH No, if someone quotes somebody else that doesn't mean the quoter does agree with it. Somehow when it comes to islam and quran you think the opposite, you claim that everything that's quoted is spoken as truth by God.

    2nd, that verse about a carpet was not talking about the earth but about land. How he spread the land just like a carpet, because if God willed, he could set mountains everywhere.

    If you just could search islam in stead of searching misconceptions about islam.

  • @Arsehel well quoting some statement and not correcting it when the correct statement was unknown misguides people and is useless, think of it if you know the truth and the rest dint why would you not say it

    2nd what i meant was when the quran describes about the earth why not tell its spherical it could have been very useful , it could have been a clear sign all i am saying is that god is an extreme cliam and it requires extreme evidence

  • @CYBERJITH Why do you think it's misguiding when he says in several verses that the earth is not flat, like in surah 39:5 , where the word 'wraps' is used. As when you wrap a taco or a turban around a head which is round. People had to know that Allah was meaning that the earth is not flat.

    Allah is not making it easy,the verses are not that simple, they are signs. If you believe that there is a god, then islam has the extremist evidence you will ever see, i swear.

    Have you ever heard a sura?

  • @Arsehel quoting the sun setting in murky water and not correcting it, is what i said was misguiding 39 :5 it is said that he wraps the day over the night and vice versa it has nothing to do with the earth and we say wrap a book even though it is not spherical and the verse gives a geocentric view read it and see and says nothing of the rotation of the earth which 3rd i have heard sura I WONT BE REPLYING ANY MORE YOU MAY REPLY TO THIS . I NEVER MEANT TO OFFEND YOU I ONLY MEANT GOOD BYE

  • thank you brother for making this video, because i laughed so hard at that other one, i just had to make a response, but it looks like somebody did it for me :) i still cant believe these comments here, anyway let the blind stay blind

  • allah know best how to decive muslims because allah is in 99 names divine atributes EL MUDEL GREAT DECIVER AL MUMIT-THE BRINGER OF DEATH THE DESTROYER of human life this description have ABADDON in hebrew and APOLLYON in greek fallen angel of bottomless pitt HOLY BIBLE GOD HOLY WORD describing with perfection and allah is behind all this unholy names

  • about this medical scientific evidence in quran it woes come form Galanic Medicine that woes present in arabia  in time of muhammed

  • it is amazing when Dr Keith who is payed by muslims antichrist money from oil trying lie from quran reshaped to look like truth

  • sun and moon in quran is written that they have the same trajectory orbit this statments is LIE because SUN IS STATIC SUN DONT MOUVE only ilusion trugh day sun travel and by night moon travel the same trajectory creating ilusion of full circle for people of 9 century arabia this woes truth but for people of 21 century this is LIE that quran elaborating and muslims antichrist thinking that people are brainless

  • ARD you muslims antichrist should invent new words and give this word meaning ARD for earth are you normal ARDS - acute lung injury characterized by coughing and rales; inflammation of the lungs which become stiff and fibrous and cannot exchange oxygen; occurs among persons exposed to irritants such as corrosive chemical vapors or ammonia or chlorine etc.

  • o liars muslims antichrist MADE EARTH FIXED ABODE quran 27,61 meaning fixed in one place with no mouving static by quran allah is spread earth like carpet meaning FLAAT ERRORS in quran that woes truth for people of 9 century

  • Quran is not wronge you are wronge

  • Youd' think that Allah would have a little more intellectual power than to tell Muhammed that the earth is "egg shaped". My first grade teacher would have been fired if she taught us such a poor and innaccurate metaphor.

  • Why are people laughing about gullible Muslims? Because they believe what videos such as this are telling them. Not because it resembles the truth, but because it sounds good.

    Does the Koran say that Earth formed almost 10,000 million years after the Big Bang?

    Does the Koran say Earth is in an orbit around the sun?

    Does the Koran even say Earth is almost spherical?

    No, it says Allah "egged" Earth. It says Moon and Sun are in an orbit. What a farce Muslims are creating here!

  • @StopSpamming1 actually I think you will find it describes the earth as an egg off an ostrich witch makes sense as the earth isn't completely spherical see Dr.Zakir's video about proof there is a god

  • @ismaeel747

    No, it does NOT make sense.

    Naik is a liar and I thought by now everybody knows this. Daha is a verb. Translated it means to spread out. So

    "Allah spread it out."

    If daha means egg-shaped, then the line line reads:

    "Allah egged it."

    Is that what you believe? Is any planet egg-shaped?

    And that is why I ask in my comment if it says "almost spherical". It does not. Nowhere in the Koran or the Sunnah does it mention a sphere. Or a ball.

  • @StopSpamming1 watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM put youtube before it XD

  • @ismaeel747

    Well, I just watched this video for the 20th time.

    Apart from the childishly stupid watchmaker argument I counted 11 lies in only this 1 video.

    Will you answer my questions or send me to more of these ridiculous videos?

    Why do you believe Allah "egged" our planet? Just because Naik tries to change the Koran does not make him right or tell the truth.

  • @StopSpamming1 lol There is no errors 

  • @BrotherSkillz

    LOL, dream on!

  • Scientific facts about Earth,Sun ,Moon, Mountains, Stars and seven skies etc. and mentioned about these in Koran,Bible etc are poles apart.

  • Wow, you really know how to reply to these atheists, May God guide us all to the straight path.

    God bless you brother

    بارك الله فيك

  • Hahahahahahahaha... Such mental contorsion, from twisting words very meaning, to completly discard evidences... It's to funny watching people actually doing such gymnastic... Thanks for the laughter, made my day... A book "written" by a god which can't be understood at first read, wow... I'm impressed...

  • Guys,

    I got the quran next to me and I'm quran reciter. With all due respect you guys are miss-translating the Quran. Stop doing that, this is very disrespectful for the muslims, as it is our belief. You chose to be athiests and none believers we did not force you to because you had the freedom to be this as muslims have the freedom to believe.

  • ISLAM WINS!

  • As an oblate spheroid Earth's equator circumference (circle shaped) is greater than pole-to-pole one(elliptic).

    With prolate spheroid (eggs), if it's inclined to 90°, the equatorial circumference is still greater than polar one, BUT their shape differ: equatorial one is elliptic and polar one is circular.

    So you cannot compare Earth to an egg.

  • Funny. Like in all "holy" books there are TONS of extremely vague notions of things that can be interpreted in so many ways and thus its so easy to label it as scientific since it can be interpreted as anything basicly. I mean why would an all knowing and all-powerful deity even want to be so vague? Seems kinda malicious to me to make a book that can be interpreted in sooo many ways and then send the ones who interpreted it wrong to some kind of hell. Seems kind of human to me, not godlike.

  • @Atamv it sounds vague if you translate it to another language, especially from a language that is so specific and sensitive (arabic) to another language like english. like there are so many words in arabic that the exact translations of it doesn't exist in english. an eg is the word Rabb in arabic, there isn't such word (1 word) in english to translate Rabb.

  • @fuckrussianz If im not mistaken these Arabic words often have many possible meanings. Isnt that even more vague?

  • @Atamv yes, they have many possible meanings. but which meaning of the specific word that is used can be known by the context that the word is used. so, it really dpends on the context. arabic is very sensitive language, it's very close to my own language farsi, and 1st some words can't really be exactly translated and 2nd the grammar is also very sensitive and if the translator makes a mistake then the entire meaning becomes very diff from what it really says.

  • @Atamv p.s. the translators use a word that is the most closest to the arabic word and same with the grammar which makes the quran reallyy biast when translated. So, personally i dont rely too much on the translation of Quran but rather im learning arabic to read the real quran (not the translation) in order to avoid those vague and biast versions.

  • @fuckrussianz Well i doubt they could vary that much. The thing about scientific explenations is that they cant be made with a few words/centences. If you want a scientific explenation on something you will have to read a whole set of articles/papers on the subject. Sure it would have been extraordinary if the quran in detail explained a complex event. But as far as i know its all rather vague. (more in next comment)

  • @fuckrussianz Throughout history humanity has had secret and not so secret societies. Most of them has had knowledge that was "before their time", whether it be math, astronomy, biology or any other field. Is it to far-fetched to assume that the quran really got its "knowledge" from some secret society? Or wise people of the time. Thus more or less excluding any divine intervention.

  • @Atamv  well, the Quran isn't a science book, it's a guide- for- life book and warnings to humanity. i am aware that there have been secret societies like illuminati and such, which were/are against religion. There r some scientific facts in quran that scientists couldn't have known them without the tools. eg. the satellites, computers, balloons were used to know how the clouds behave...the barrier between sweet and salty sea was discovered recently by a non-muslim...

  • @Atamv actually many scientific stuff in quran were discovered by non muslims..and certain discoveries required the modern tools right? anywayss..reading the quran brings tears to my eyes...goosbumps appear on my skin...shows me wats real..i've never read something like it b4....and yet im still searching and respecting peopl's beliefs...but it would be nice if people researched and if after/during their deep study, they believed/disbelieved, then that wud have made sense..

  • @fuckrussianz Look people see the "facts" of how the clouds behave, the barrier between sweet and salty sea etc because they want to see it. Pretty much all passages are extremely vague and could mean a lot of things. Its just wishful thinking. And you crying over a book is nothing special. My friggin sister used to get the same reaction when reading harry potter (true story)

  • @fuckrussianz Also some scientific discoveries were made by people with no real instruments true. Like when Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth. I doubt god had anything to do with it. It was rather extreme human curiousness and the amazing human intellect and imagination.

  • @Atamv lol perhaps i didnt make myself clear or u didn't understand what i said...my tears don't come out bcz the "story" is sad hehehe...it's just..a divine breeze... im guessing ur sis isn't an adult to cry over hp. i've been there wen i was a kid, crying over movies but that's Diff..lol can't believe someone wud think it's the same..wow. Well, of course Some scientific facts were discovered without instruments. but im talking about the ones that Are discovered by scientific instruments

  • @Atamv like the Big Bang Theory--galaxies appear to be moving away from us at speeds proportional to their distance. This is called "Hubble's Law," named after Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) who discovered this phenomenon in 1929. This observation supports the expansion of the universe and suggests that the universe was once compacted....i do research dear. This concept of universe expanding and it was first one single matter is explicitly explained in Quran!! quran is from 1400 yrs ago not form 1929

  • @fuckrussianz "explicitly explained in Quran!"

    HAHAHAHA

  • @Atamv i can give ya the exact chap/verse. These recent discoveries r basicaly a "confirmation" that Quran is the word of god...thats y sooo many scientists convert to islam. like Dr maurice bucaille (a french surgeon)

  • @fuckrussianz Why would god need confirmation? Why would he not be clear? Fine give me an example of a (detaild) explenation of something that they could impossibly know during that time.

  • @Atamv okay, i can't really explain such thing in very limited words. do u mind sharing ur e mail? if u do mind then ill try to reply here butt it wud be a lot easier that way.

  • @fuckrussianz I totaly understand that xD Hmm but if you dont need to send files or anything you could always send me a private message on youtube.

  • @Atamv

    I don't think verse like

    " and We are slowly expanding the universe" or " We placed firmly embedded mountains on the Earth, so it would not move under them..." vague or indirect. Learn and study before you make up assumptions.

  • @cbluver22 "We placed firmly embedded mountains on the Earth, so it would not move under them.."

    And what is that supposed to show? First of, mountains do move, they grow and corrode. Ever heard of continental drift? Whole mountains have been destroyed from underneath by magma that over time built pressure only to blow a huge amount of it to pieces. But if i misunderstood that verse please explain.

    Ill mention the other verse in my next comment.

  • @Atamv

    That verse about the mountain refers to the function of Mountains, i.e preventing shocks in the Earth.

    " Haven't We made the Earth as a bed and the mountain its peg?"

    Now the Quran also mention the fact that Mountains do move as well

    " You see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds" Allah referred to the motion of mountains as "drifting" just as how modern scientist use the term "Continental drift".

  • @cbluver22 " and We are slowly expanding the universe"

    Ok so this could in a poetic scene mean anything. And considering how many ways a word can be translated from arabic to english that verse could just have been aimed towards something else, but what do i know. Also, isnt it kind of strange to call the speed of light "slow"? The universe is expanding at an enormous rate that we cant even begin to fathom. Who in their right mind would call the speed of light slow?

  • @Atamv

    " Ok so this could in a poetic scene mean anything."

    Poetic? lol, the Quran is not a book of poetry. Before jumping to conclusion, read the Quran first. Are you trying to suggest that you know Arabic? If you do you would know the translation of that verse.

    " And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily it is We Who are steadily expanding it"

    The Arabic word is "moosi'oona" which comes from the root word "awsa'a" meaning "to expand".

    Read before you judge.

  • Islam is totally pagan so why do people believe that crap?

  • @takesinbjs247 because anti-islam says its pagan... not islam... prove tht its pagan.. uve been brainwashed my bro..

  • @prosk8er both fasting and circumcision ARE PAGAN rituals

    why dont you have the guts to learn what you should know lol

    and how come your allah obviously didnt know about northern regions when setting rules for ramadam...let alone how idiotic/DANGEROUS being forbidden to drink water in earths hottest temps is

    youve been DEPRIVED of what other males have over you due to a PAGAN ritual...and most boys mutilated without NEED OR INFORMED CONSENT

    how sick

  • @takesinbjs247 without understanding the word "PAGAN" you used it?

    God of Abraham is the

    God of Ishmael

    God of Israel

    God of Moses

    God of Jesus

    God of Mohammad

    Blessings of God is for every 1

    and his anger is for every 1

    Dont play with his name

  • @betufos LOL

    WHAT god....explain why despite 1400 yrs & MILLIONS of desperates trying NOT ONE has managed to come up with a single shred of even anything to support any god theory...ZILCH

    youre obbviously incredibly gullible

  • when i was primary six,we learn that the sun is not moving in science but then when my father recite surah yasin and translate it about the sun is moving.i was argue with my dad.and 2 years later,i found the article that the sun is moving orbiting the milkyway.MASYA ALLAH

  • @handsome7mateen why dont you WRITE OUT word for word on here EXACTLY what koran says lol

    and lets look at the actual sources of whats in koran...what was already known well before it including the 'mistaken beliefs' of that era we read in it

  • It is surprising how both videos came up with completely different (sometimes opposing) interpretations of the same verses.

    One side says that they are mistakes according to his/her interpretation and the other says that they are miracles (according to the other interpretation)

  • im more intrested of the techno song in the beginning of this clip.

    Wot is it?

    other than that, have fun worshiping your chiken.

  • Just the fact that it can be interpreted differently shows its inaccuracy. If the Quran said: The man lives on top of the crust that surrounds the Earth, which is a sphere, and of which is also composed of a mantle, outer core and inner core. That would be accurate. There's nothing scientific in saying the spreading ground protects us. In fact, there's nothing accurate at all.

  • @2CSST2 My thoughts exactly. And many of those "scientific" verses are flat out wrong. For example the ones that are supposed to speak about embryology. They don't match the modern view, not until the scholars make a huge stretch in finding those similarities. When you just read the text with a critical mind, you notice that it matches perfectly with the erroneous ancient theories that the greek and roman philosophers came up with, no extra interpretation needed there.

  • @scorpio881 exactly scorpio...I so enjoy pointing out the 'errors ' re embryology to muslims, watching their childish lies/excuses/nonsense to try to explain them away

  • @scorpio881 really? surely those greeks didnt say tht the appearance of the embryology looks a leech did they, and it behaves similarly like a leech did they? or did the say tht it clings to the womb? oh well Peace be upon u!

  • @prosk8er Yes the greeks, Hippocrates for example, did undertand that the embryo took nourishment from his/hers mother. Therefore acting pretty much like a leech.

  • @scorpio881 the qur'an used the word 'alaqa' in reference to the human embryo. one of the meaning of alaqa is leech-like substance which means it apperas like a leech.. i dont know if any of those ancient greeks describes the appearance of embryo is similar to a leech..

  • @prosk8er the clinging aspect was known well before your koran...let me assure you of that

    and for how many thousands of years have women had miscarriages lol

    alaqa means 'leech like clot' and in hadith your prick mohammed also said you were a blood clot for 40 days...BUT NOT EVEN YOU was ever a blood clot...and koran doesnt say 'appear' at all - it says you WERE one

  • @prosk8er According to many sources from what I've read about this subject the word "alaqa" is a very ambiguous word which can be translated in a couple of different ways. It can mean for example a clot, a clot of blood, or a leech-like substance. So you've basically just decided one translation over the other.. And even if they really did mean a leech-like substance when they used the word "alaqa", Aristotle already knew that an embryo "clings" to the uterus wall.

  • @scorpio881 however those ambiguous meaning really does relates to how the human embryology rlly looks like...

  • @prosk8er Yeah, I admit that they do relate to what the embryos look like but they're not very specific now are they? And also Quran has many verses that have been interpreted as scientific miracles in modern times. But when people actually read them critically they often notice that they are actually based on old theories which have been proven wrong when the science has progressed.

  • @scorpio881 hi scorpio

    muslims claim the blood clot is in relation to appearance, but of course it NEVER says appears, but says they WERE blood clots...andso too did mohammed say in hadith

  • @proudfemale Yeah I kinda figured as well that the Quran probably didn't say anything like: "APPEARANCE of a blood clot" etc. :D

  • @proudfemale God of Abraham is the

    God of Ishmael

    God of Israel

    God of Moses

    God of Jesus

    God of Mohammad

    Blessings of God is for every 1

    and his anger is for every 1

    Dont play with his name

  • @prosk8er did you not read what scorpio wrote lol

    so tell us all WHAT the drop is koran says is emitted from backbone/ribs re creating of human life

    from SPECIFICALLY where it emits

    were yu once a blood clot like it says when the rest of us werent LOL

  • @scorpio881 @prosk8er

    "Alaqa" means Zygote the first stage of Embryo

  • @betufos dont be so dishonest....alaqa means 'leech like clot' and koran says you were a blood clot LOL

    of course, this is proof that youve been LIED TO when no human being was ever a blood clot, not at any phase or stage

    you say youve read 'thousands' of books....really !!!

    have you bothered to learn the actual sources of your man made book, the koran ?

  • @prosk8er purleeze...the clinging aspect was known hundreds of years before koran and WHY would it say you were a blood clot when you werent lol

    the commonalities of converts to islam are well known...you should aLEARN them and squirm...but of course 3 out of 4 leave it IF they can, and MILLIONS who you think are muslim dont actually believe

  • ★★★★★

  • It is amazing to see how Muslims are able to tweak, twist, turn and bend the text in the Qu;ran to fit the current state of scientific progress.

    I bet that when science has to modify or adapt one of its theories, Muslims instantaneously reinterpret the texts that supported the previous theory.

    If the Qu'ran is so great in science, tell us what awaits us w.r.t. science in the future?

    Predict something from the Qu'ran that we don't know yet, like a big crack in the moon caused by splitting.

  • @AllahSucketh thecrack in the moon is proven already...

  • @prosk8er

    "thecrack in the moon is proven already... "

    We are not trying to prove a crack, we are trying to prove the splitting of the moon, and the gluing back together.

    So we are looking for a crack, completely circling the moon and some remains of glue that Mo used. There must be some glue spilled.

    Maybe we can one day establish the chemical composition of Mo's glue and scientifically create a super celestial-body glue!

  • @prosk8er oh really...WHEN and by whom lol

    the gullibility of muslims never fails to amuse me ...their desperation to believe

    perhaps you should learn what rilles are

  • @proudfemale ur opinion keep it to urself... and i know i really shudnt get intimidated by ur opinion rlly cuz ur country has the most coverts to islaam according to statistics! and i'll make sure i'll study what rilles and thank u for the advice... Peace be upon u!

  • Most of people come here to criticise not to seek the truth. How can u find a truth when u only search things to criticise?

  • @mrmsdara how can you search the truth without ever criticizing?

  • how could u say world is flat by using word carpet? if word carpet is used in Holly Quran then it doesnt mean world is FLAT. It could mean 'earth gravity', so God made earth for u as a carpit so u can walk n live on earth. 

    Just present a single verse from Holly Quran which says earth is flat.

  • nice vid brother i give it 5 stars if it was posible 10 stars

  • I have never seen so many illiterate,ignorant and superstitious comments in one place in all my life =/

  • You are not misguided , you're just blind

  • Jesus Christ has returned. I AM.

  • silence is the best answer for a fool. it appears that gmcjetpilot is totally ignorant and religously illiterate, otherwise he would have read what imminent christian scholars said about Islam and Quran b4 you make your abusive response. we are not insulting anybody, we just need proof, that is all.

  • @yusufuru

    Why start out with an insult. That makes you look immature, stupid and hateful. I am older, more educated, higher in both social and economic stature. I also have the benefit of studying Jesus for 24 years and Islam for 5 yrs. I know islam better than 99% of muslims, who are VERY ignorant of Islamic History and what is in the Quran and Hadith. I have read all of Quran and 20% of the Hidtih and Tafsirs and Fatwas. You are HARAM! My Dawah is much to powerful for you.

  • Oh please ur pride won;t even get u far especially with what Jesus taught people about pride. As a learned Muslim u have not convinced me that u r knowledgable. Hypocrite! u have also started and finished with insults...ur dawah is misleading,

  • SUBHANALLAH this is the powerful reply to those who talks negative things abt ISLAM may ALLAH bless the creator of this video n.history has proved that ISLAM is the one which can be called as relegion only who blieves it who have eyes and mind n if any fools say anything abt ISLAM we willl prove again and again

  • Surah Yasin verse 10

    "The same is it to them whether thou admonish them or thou do not admonish them: they will not believe."

  • May Allah reward you for this.

  • hi crownswillfall, one thing with islam is that we believe in hard fact not speculation. so why dont you mention the name and the book that mention any thing scientific in the AD1400 or even before that.i know the first scientist that mentioned the earth is circle was burnt by the church, cos they dont want anything scientific while we have plenty of that in the Holy Quran. so pls prove to me your point if you are truthful. fool and ignorant.

  • Hard fact? Like wipe your ass odd number of times? Like your false prophet teaching evil eye is real? Fact, all the so called science wrong, mostly ideas annexed (stole) by Arabs from the Greeks, Persians and other cultures, which were WELL KNOWN at that time. However it is moot, there is no MIRACLE, just BS.

    You muslims take vague verses, use LIBERAL translations and make up a GRAND STORY. Most of all, ITS WRONG. The BIBLE is by far a more reliable substantial document than the Qur-crap.

  • @gmcjetpilot

    Reliability is shown by evidence of no contradiction which the Qur'an doesn't have unlike the Bible, in which the Old and New Testaments do not concomitantly make complete sense. An resorting to insulting another religion's book...u transgress to far. In Islam we learn of tolerance and respect for the Bible and the Qur'an.

    As a Muslim I have reconciled my religion with science, can u do so with urs on a personal level?

  • @mozhus123 sorry guys it should be 'The Qur'an doesnt contradict itself' unlike the Bible...'

  • @mozhus123 (cut paste =ID into youtube search) Quran condictions? One example?1000's! >Scientific Errors in the Quran =pz2AfvD4INA >Scientific errors in Quranic verses koran =wYwvLNTA1no >Quran Biggest Blunder In World History =FtcDsXC8g2Q >Contradictions in the Quran Koran errors =Yq-gzYZ6PG8 >51 errors in the "perfect" Koran =kuvB-UDMJ38 >Proof Koran today is different from original =z8RJaJbKog4
  • I don't need some 39yr old islamophobic to tell me reliable sources not even on Christianity let alone my own religion.

  • @mozhus123 (cut paste =ID into youtube search) Quran corrupted before Caliph Uthman =DUWOBBWtC8g The origins of the Koran and Islam =O5R_-0UO4fs Is the Quran the Word of Allah? =njXuoF8toUg The history of how Quran came to be =b1yxtag7v4s Islam is false (part 13) =rlHYprqiMvE ISLAM AND THE WEST, part 1 =X1AGitCGlns
  • @mozhus123

    The BIBLE is FAR more reliable and intelligent than the quran which has no logical order, rambles with unrelated verses, errors in "science" & history and internal & external contradictions. There are known obvious plagiarisms as well.

    Christianity is superior and the teachings of God, Jesus Christ is the way to Salvation.

    You reject God, call him Haram & Shirk. Jesus is salvation. Jesus taught forgiveness, equality & redemption. What does Islam offer? Pagan rituals? Jihad?

  • U r like a some backward and islamophobic evangelists (commonly American) #1 who doesn't even know that Allah and God is one and the same thing. Why don;t you tell that to Jews and Arab/Coptic CHristians who call God, Allah which literally means 'The God'. #2 I reject God, please...Muslims are monothiests. # Pagans? Islam is by far the strictest monotheistic religion and there are no pagan rituals which i follow. #3 Jihad yeah what about it #4is that all ISlam has to offer maybe to u but not

  • but not to all the Muslims today yesterday and into the future, when Islam wll regardless of ur perputuating errors continue to grow.

    Now let me show what I know of ur religion, Christianity without having a agenda like udo. The Bible does have contradictions in both the Old and New Testaments, the Bible has been translated in many languages and therefore its meaning has not remained intact, if the BIble was that clear why is such difference of opinion?

  • Jesus Christ who i donot reject nor will i ever, God willing i respect highly. A human's death is not salvation and Jesus and the Prophet taught people about forgiveness, equality & redemption. u sir are in a midlife crisis with some severe intolerance brewing in u.

  • @mozhus123

    Your religion is a cult with fear, violence and brainwashing repetitive pagan rituals, pray to MECCA? Are you kidding? Dance around the kaaba kiss a black rock? Hajj & Ramadan are all pagan predating Islam. WAKE UP. How do you get to paradise, martyrdom? That is the only guarantee Islam gives you. No wounder there are suicide bombers and terrorist. Do you think the eternal afterlife is all about SEX and WINE? That is PAGAN. GET REAL.

  • My religion is a way of life not a cult. Christians do not follow all the teachings of Jesus unlike Muslims strive to do. I worship God not Mecca. Islam has been before Christianity and Judaism according to what Muslims believe. I dont expect u to agree as a Christian. u shud say Hajj predate the Prophts coming, it's not pagan cos we don;t worship it, we are following the practice of Abraham and Ishmael.

  • Ramadhan is not pagan, fasting has been and is practised by Jews, Christians and nearly all religions. U get to paradise not from matyrdom! it's ur deeds that what Islam guarantees. Bombers and terrorists are not martyrs and the eternal life is not sex and wine it is to be with God. I'm sure CHristians belived in the same thing until they decided the hell depicted by the Bible is too harsh and heaven and hell became figurative metaphors of being with or without Jesus.

  • @mozhus123 fasting and circumsion are indeed both PAGAN

    so why are muslims promised virgins to screw AND smooth boys, rivers of wine etc lol

    and why do your imams TEACH/INCITE the weak gullible suicide bombers that its all for allah and they will be martyrs LOL

  • @proudfemale you haven't justified why fasting and circumcision is pagan so there's no point in discussing this. Muslims are promised virgins and rivers of wine as these things are forbidden in this world and very few imams teach and incite violence, many people who do tend to teach this things are not very good muslims/imams in the first place. Suicide bombers are not considered martyrs according to mainstream Muslims. Hope this has clarified matters.

  • @mozhus123 I dont have to justify what is fact....fasting/circumcision ARE PAGAN rituals and I always think its amusing your purported allah obviously didnt have a clue about northern regions when setting rules for ramadam, or about nutritional/calcium requirements of teenage boys

    koran/islam IS about violence...wife beating, beating children for not praying, KILLING for non belief /adult consensual love...and youre now wanting to claim very few imams teach koran lol

  • @proudfemale yes you do...because fasting is practised by all major religions and circumcision by both Muslims and Jews (and btw even Jesus (peace be upon him) was also circumcised). And please stop being so boringly sarcastic...ramadhan is practised in europe and north america easily so God did in fact cater for those in the 'northern regions' Also, what about nutritional requirement for girls (yes,,,you forgot to mention them)...these requirements are met albeit in a different matter

  • @mozhus123 the requirements for teenage boys far surpass teenage girls, and Im LAUGHING at your pitifully stupid nonsense re 'god catered' for northern regions...how???

    let me give you a clue....for months there is NO sunrise/sunset in parts of the world...and we all know the rules re ramadam

    so because jesus was circumcised you claim boys should be so harmed & denied right to make their own choice

    was the prick mohammed CHOPPED...yes or no

  • @proudfemale let me finalise my last words with you....proudfemale you spend a lot of ur time thinking that u have substantiated urself....but most of what u say is unjustified, lacking tolerance or even understanding. I am proud that I am a Muslim, that I worship Allah and follow His Messenger and His Prophets and that security is all i need...unlike u...u show too much pride and arrogance...thinking u know about others when in fact u know little.

  • @mozhus123 LOL

    what makes you think irrefutable facts are 'not justified' ...then you go onto dribble about your mythical allah

    do you think its JUSTIFIED that islam has MURDER for non belief when people with intellect can SEE FOR THEMSELVES errors in koran....or the degradation of females

    do you?

    your DISHONESTY is shameful...rape victims are NOT protected re islamic law...many are IMPRISONED because they dont have 4 witnesses, others beaten/ostracised/killed

  • @mozhus123 You are right, I read thousands of books, and i realise the Knowledge is a sea and i have a few Drops. No body is perfect. If you want to show islam to others lead them to islamic scholars.

  • @proudfemale u show many qualities of a bigot and I am proud that God has blessed me with the ability to defend my own faith (which i dont need to do from ppl like you who are bent on doing spreading evil...and i wont pass judgement on the fact ur australian and old) but also given me an understanding to appreciate, respect and see where people of other faiths and beliefs come from.

  • @mozhus123 WHAT god

    why would you call CARING about the innocent victims of islam, truth,facts,reality to be "evil"....why would you claim such to be evil

    WHAT god has blessed you with anything...when your own imams say he/she INTENTIONALLY MURDERED/MAIMED all boxing day tsunami victims

    so what youre saying is you are blessed ...but they arent

    explain WHY that would happen from your purported 'merciful loving allah' LOL

  • @proudfemale you don't know but facts need to be justified especially someone who doesn't feel the need to...stop thinking that you know Islam...I know about other religions but I can't claim i know why they believe everything they do which you do...the Qur'an and Islam refers to violence as does every ethical/moral code...wife beating, beating children are not recommended acts and discouraged by the Prophet (SAW).

  • @mozhus123 dont lie...beating children and wives was a RIGHT GIVEN TO MUSLIM MALES

    what are you saying is ethical/moral about the enforced inequality of women, or MURDER for non belief

    muslims have been KILLED for not complying with fasting...and muslim boys mutilated WITHOUT INFORMED consent due tot he PAGAN RITUALS

  • @mozhus123 FACTS are facts...so why do you say such needs to be justified

    what DOES need to be justifed is why muslims SIT IN SILENT ACQUIESCENCE when muslims harm/kill other muslims...when rape victims are IMPRISONED/BEATEN/KILLED or when the pious spew that we will 'submit convert or be killed"

    why is it muslims DONT CARE about even innocent children...then ONLY care about trying to protect islam, but will of course always fail due to islams FILTH

  • @proudfemale facts are not facts miss...facts need to be justified. Ur just not clever enough to prove facts. I for one do not sit in silence when muslims kill other muslims or even non-muslims...i find killing unjustly abhorrent. rape victims are protected according to islamic law however, if what u say happens then it happens because of culture and not from what islam teaches. I and Muslims care about children so stop chatting rubbish and ppl aren't pious if they force religion on others.

  • @mozhus123 dont lie...rape victims in your ummah are beaten/ostracised/killed/impri­soned when they dont have four witnesses

    so do you find KILLING of those who dont/cant believe the errors in koran (as per instructions from your dirty prick mohammed) just re your claim as abhorrent

    dont dribble your taqqiya to me...if you cared about children how come you support

    contd

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  • @mozhus123

    contd..you say you care about children but how about

    -children taught to HATE the non believer

    -little tots begging on streets & ignored when the result of temp marriage ceremonies performed by your imams

    -over 100+ million girls mutilated on dictates of your imams

    -children LIED TO and controlled by taught fears

    -children of muslim women begging in streets and treated as 'shameful' because they dont have husband

    really....you call that caring LOL

    dont dribble junk

  • @proudfemale Adultery is a sin according to all major religions and its punishment is not practised in all Muslim countries. stop trying to equate islam and violence....who better to know a religion then someone who practises it,..proudfemale...you dont so stop claiming you know lots about my religion. U are in fact intolerant and bent on trying to discredit Islam...but u cant and u will fail becos Islam remains the fastest growing religion.

  • @mozhus123 your own prick mohammed was a pedophile, and he RAPED the slaves that he took...yet instructed adults who have consensual love be MURDERED

    I laugh that you dont want me to equate islam with violence...you should learn its history, and how your sicko prick mohammed LOVED the concept of beheading & was a very cruel MURDERER

    islam isnt the fastest growing at all...who feeds you such junk

  • @mozhus123 its amusing you have 'no problem' that a pedophile/RAPIST/MURDERER instructed that adultery was such a major sin to warrant being MURDERED

    re who better to know a religion..muslims/scholars differ greatly re their trying to comprehend koran and islam and we see how they hate/loathe/despite/kill even each other 'for their allah'

    do you even know the actual sources of koran...do you?

    islam discredits itself...why do you think the world knows it as utterly repulsive and sick

  • @proudfemale instead of discrediting other beliefs why don't you give some credit to ur own beliefs and prove that they are right. Oh and btw seriously ur sarcasm is overworked...

  • @mozhus123 I dont care WHAT you as an individual choose to believe in for yourself..no matter how stupid/nonsense they are

    but I do care about muslims SUPPORTING THE DENIAL of the right to choose to those born into the ummah, SUPPORTING MURDER for non belief, and the hideous levels of human misery caused /inflicted as a direct result of the filth/immorality of islam

    so because not ALL muslim countries STONE people to death, are you saying we should 'ignore' such filth taught by a RAPIST

  • @mozhus123 ramadan,lunar moon calender,hajj's,bowing to mecca,idolating the black rock(kaaba),cresent moon symbol and even the name allah are all pagan arab rituals,muhammad just mixed in a few bible stories and then you get islam

  • Why do u feel insecure sir? If u werent u wouldnt resort to lying and perpuating errors in ur base understanding about others but looking into ur own religion and practising it.

  • @mozhus123

    Mohamad is recorded in Quran and Hadith saying he thought he was CRAZY! He was supersious and taught Evil Eye and evil spells were cast on him. Does this sound like a man of God or the Occult? It does not add up my friend.

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  • The Prophet did say he was overcome at one point by evil for a very short while. This shows to me that the Prophet is true as no Muslim would want to see any weakness in the Prophet. It goes to show he is human and not proud.

  • Please... Christians are by far just as superstitious but that doesnt mean Jesus was part of an occult, he is a man of God, the Son of MAn whos disciples never worshipped, taught the truth, brought light and a message to the Jews specfically, who was an observant man, a Muslim is what Islam regards Jesus to be. Like i said wait for Jesus second coming then Muslims and CHristians will know the truth.

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  • I do NOT hate JEWS/CHRISTIANS and nearly all Muslims includng the Prophet belive this. I frankt;y believe all righteous Jews and Christians are Muslims, those who believe in the Unity of God. respect the Prophets and Message of God and who practised the teachings in their books as well as possible.

  • @gmcjetpilot The eloquency and beauty of the Qur'an is respected by Muslim and non-Muslims alike. I am proud that many Islamic philosophers, scientists and mathmatecians sought inspiration from the Qur'an during the Middle Ages when most of Europe was under Christendom. It was after the Prophet's passing was knowledge from other civilisations such as the Greek, Persians etc were preserved and used.)

  • @mozhus123

    Muslim GAMES, how eloquent and beautiful is PAINFUL DOOM repeated at nauseum? Jews and Christians are apes, pigs and liars. Rape of slaves is OK. Muslims NEVER shall befriend or help an unbeliever and kill them where you find them, because the unbelievers are all YOUR ENEMY! HOW BEAUTIFUL. How about killing a woman for being lewd. Sex with prepubescent girls and beating your wife is OK, because she is dumb and like a domestic animal. YEA BEAUTY!

  • U definitely making fish of one an foul of another. Stop making bs assumptions based on what u want urself and others to believe. Rather guys see 4 urself.

  • @gmcjetpilot Many Muslims, Jews and Christians worked together to disprove many beliefs of the ancients. This knowledge preserved and enhanced by the Islamic world (which showed great tolerance because of the Prophet's teachings) was passed on and taken up by the Christendom to kick start their Renaissance. I feel when Muslims followed the Qur'anic teachings well, they excelled in the sciences and when the Church's grip fell in Europe science flourished.

  • @mozhus123

    The so called great science muslims claim, implying it has something to do with Islam is a joke. Islam invaded people who were culturally and technically more advanced. What Islam had was a Warlord named mohammad who said, Believe or ELSE! The claims Muslims are so exaggerated to the ludicrous, same as ridiculous claims Muslims make today for "miracle science" in the Quran. That alone shows mohammedans are liars in a false religion. So much proves islam is a false flawed ideology.

  • at the time ie. the Byzantine, Abysinnian and Persian empires. The Prophet is more closer to Jesus than u would know,. Oh Mohemmedans is a misnomer its Muslims. U like a backward Islamaphobic.

  • @mozhus123

    Mohammedans, 7th century Arabs were notoriously backwards, STILL ARE! Look at Islamic nations, poor, illiterate, invent nothing, violent, repressed centers of terrorism. I have a profound of knowledge of Islam. Muslims started slave trade in Africa; Islam invaded and looted over 40 countries; Islam murdered 100 million Christians and 10 million Hindus and 1 million buddhists; your prophet married a 9 year old girl which makes him a pedophile. Yes fact and history. You got owned.

  • Muslims were far from backwards without the Islamic world there would be no Western renaissance. Muslims were not the first to start the slave trade, Unfortunately Muslims have killed, not to spread Islam cos u can't force religion upon any1 but other religions have also killed many. Christians are certainly no exception ie the indigenous Americans, Australians, Africans etc. and that's excluding Europe and Asia. A paedophile is someone who is attracted sexually to minor girls.

  • In the past girls were married off early and no the Prophet did not marry her for sex cos he did not have children with her. He married her so that she could then remember his sayings and spread them U sir r an islamophobic freak who certainly doesn't have any true knowledge of Islam. Many Christians know more than u. And please the figures???

  • @gmcjetpilot

    I would like any1 to show me a better man than the Prophet (SAW). He was an example to all mankind and the progress and peace he brought into the world is apparent. I am sure Jesus' second coming will reveal to Muslims and Christians the truth. Jesus' teachings are little followed for he has been idolised, (many of his discples didn't worship him).

    The evil eye bit...who said that just cos we can't see in the 4th/5th/6th etc dimensions nothing exists in those dimensions?

  • @mozhus123

    Mohamad is an example to WHO? Not me. He was a liar, thief, murder, rapist, pedophile, polygamist, had sex with family (incest), Warlord and cult leader. How can I respect this 7th century person you worship. He is no prophet. Show me he is a prophet? What prophecy did he give. The Quran records he predicted wins in battles only to lose. Allah has no power because allah was one of 360 pagan idols in the pagan kaaba in pagan mecca. Allah is the moon god.

  • @gmcjetpilot Finally the Qur'an is not a science book where all the facts are shown. Countless times God says that He wishes us to see His Signs...the Qur'an gives guidance to what these signs are...and He wishes us to explore think and ponder. The Qur'an speaks on many different levels for different people at different times. It has resulted in countless conversions and wll continue to do so, God Willing. I hope there is hope 4 all of us including to see the Truth.

  • @mozhus123

    God got his religion right the first time.

    There is no need for an arab do over.

    Allah is NEVER the God of the Torah or New or Old testament, the TRUE CORREECT HOLY WORD OF GOD. mohammad and the kaaba are NO WHERE in the Bible. Allah is your moslum false god.

    Moses and Jesus NEVER prayed to MECCA. (Mecca you have to be kidding. Satan must be laughing 5 times a day as you all stick your ass in the air on all fours and chant mindlessly in Arabic. ARABIC? WHY? Please!

  • @mozhus123

    Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah are all muslims and all TERRORIST. You belong to the same cult. Quran is the FULE of Terrorism. It contains, hate, intolerance & calls for VIOLENCE, FIGHT TO MAKE ALL RELIGION ONLY FOR ISLAM.

    Allah is god? He TRICKED people into thinking Jesus was crucified but was not (Q4:157) and comes back 600 yrs later to say I TRICKED YOU? The Crucifiction is the MOST recorded event in history. Islam fails.

    Q4:158, Allah takes Jesus unto himself? REALLY!

  • @gmcjetpilot

    PS. 'Wiping ur ass odd no of times?' I have read many Prophetic teachings but this was certainly not one of them. Let me tell u something Muslims directly influenced...medicine...its teaching, medical schools, chemistry, pharmacology and importantlt hygiene. The latter was directly influencd by the Prophet's teachings...Muslims need to perform baths/ablutions before prayers, all impurities need to be removed, hands washed b4 and after eating. All unpleasant things done with left

  • @mozhus123

    Please, the reason was Arabs were backwards pagans and filthy. Mohamad was a CONTROL FREAK and a CULT leader. Like all cults they control EVERY thing about the members life. DOES GOD CARE ABOUT NUMBER OF WIPES? Which way you face when you deficate? How many times you shake your penis after urination? What foot you use to step into a bathroom? SPIT on the floor after a bad dream? Wash your nose out satan sleeps there? PLEASE GO HIDE YOUR HEAD IN SHAME Mohammedan. You're selling crap.

  • @gmcjetpilot

    all pleasant things with right. So we eat with the right and read with the right index finger. We use the left hand to blow our noses and relieve ourselves, Oh and we are not recommended to just use toilet paper...we use water cos that cleaner and purer. This is just a few exmples there are many more. If u don't like them then stop commenting on things u don't know how to discuss things properly. I respect members of all faiths maybe u should too,