Aikido is not "MMA for Dummies." The attacks and techniques are FORMALIZED in order to teach FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS. The techniques are not even Aikido. They are all Jujistu/Judo techniques, but the precise STYLE of their implementation and the choice/attitude committing to that, reliance on those fundamental skills: that is Aikido. Waza < Jitsu < Do. Thinking "this is no good in a real fight" means you don't get it.
uke depends on the attacker uke is a technique!? what the hell are you talking about, do you hear yourself?! uke IS the attacker! ukemi is a technique.
@Aikidostenudd Then how do you expect to apply it to a real fight if people in the street come at you with hook punches and swift, fast jabs, you idiot? You just admitted that you train as if someone's coming at you with a sword cut, but real fighting has nothing to do with this. Thus, your training has nothing to do with real fighting. You aikidokas are blind to reality.
@localumberjacks if I were you mate I'd think about the gate the technique starts from rather the attack that comes in. It may not be a common attack, but moving to the outside of your opponent's arm is a common response and this technique has a lot of merit. I'm not a Aikidoka, and I'm sure my take on this could be greatly improved by training with Aikidokas, but in essence I've pulled this off in free flow drills plenty of times.
@kscman In the beginning most techniques can be a bit awkward. You will get through it and it will make sense. And everyone has to start somewhere, having 6th kyu is not a bad thing. In fact, you are in excellent company for every aikidoka will have 6th kyu.:)
Man i wish i could see some punk ass get fucked up on the street by this stuff. lol. I could just imagine somebody running at the guy and then getting flipped and thrown on his ass.
Oh, sorry. Instead of pushing uke down, I make a curve with my arm at the side of uke's head. The flow of the movement should be as if coming from uke's center on uke's front, and returning toward uke's center at his rear.
Maybe you can see what I mean on the video with iriminage as knife defense. You find it on my channel.
Good videos as always. When I learned this technique the movement for unbalancing and taking uke to the ground was explained to me (and I explain it now) as an ocean wave lifting uke up onto his toes, rolling back over his center and then (as I drop ki) crashing through him to the ground.
That's a wonderful description. Still, it might not be the most aiki way of doing the technique. I like the idea of joining with uke's ki, and choosing the directions that it will naturally agree on.
Aikido is not "MMA for Dummies." The attacks and techniques are FORMALIZED in order to teach FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS. The techniques are not even Aikido. They are all Jujistu/Judo techniques, but the precise STYLE of their implementation and the choice/attitude committing to that, reliance on those fundamental skills: that is Aikido. Waza < Jitsu < Do. Thinking "this is no good in a real fight" means you don't get it.
aphor 8 months ago 2
U can use iriminage for straight punch too... so iriminage is a very useful thing :)
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hunPETERxXx 1 year ago
krav maga uses hammer punch
BrianUndercover 1 year ago
uke depends on the attacker uke is a technique!? what the hell are you talking about, do you hear yourself?! uke IS the attacker! ukemi is a technique.
maruhabu 2 years ago 3
by the expert, it could be a dangerius technique!
jangmat 3 years ago 3
who the hell is gunna show up to a fight comming at you with a straight chop?>
localumberjacks 3 years ago 2
It's shomenuchi, representing a sword cut. An aikido thing...
Aikidostenudd 3 years ago 3
@Aikidostenudd Then how do you expect to apply it to a real fight if people in the street come at you with hook punches and swift, fast jabs, you idiot? You just admitted that you train as if someone's coming at you with a sword cut, but real fighting has nothing to do with this. Thus, your training has nothing to do with real fighting. You aikidokas are blind to reality.
solpapisolmook 9 months ago
Anyone wanting to hit you on the head with something. In the street it's usually a hammer or a kosh.
ketsan 3 years ago
lmao. its the basis for the technique.
however.. once you know the basics you can learn to use the take down in advanced ways. for instance a hooking punch.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
It's just one version of a technique which can be adapted from many different attacks. Don't be stupid.
fredsavagerules 2 years ago 2
@localumberjacks Think of it as an angle of attack - someone trying to smack you with a beer bottle for example.
MrEwok 1 year ago
Some idiot from the local karate school who just achieved his yellow belt might....lol
it is a sword attack simulation....or even a knife attack simulation.
Mobius303 9 months ago
@localumberjacks if I were you mate I'd think about the gate the technique starts from rather the attack that comes in. It may not be a common attack, but moving to the outside of your opponent's arm is a common response and this technique has a lot of merit. I'm not a Aikidoka, and I'm sure my take on this could be greatly improved by training with Aikidokas, but in essence I've pulled this off in free flow drills plenty of times.
JonnyBauer 5 months ago
We trained iriminage in our last training:
I didn't get it, it was to difficult for me, but I'm only at the white grade(?), so... I hope I'll learn it...anytimes... ;-)
kscman 3 years ago 2
@kscman In the beginning most techniques can be a bit awkward. You will get through it and it will make sense. And everyone has to start somewhere, having 6th kyu is not a bad thing. In fact, you are in excellent company for every aikidoka will have 6th kyu.:)
Shaudh 1 year ago
uke depends on the attacker.. uke is a technique.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
uke depends on the attacker.. uke is a technique.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
uke depends on the attacker.. uke is a technique.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
uke depends on the attacker.. uke is a technique.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
beautiful iriminages...powerful i can see uke's feet popping up.
shikakubu 4 years ago
Man i wish i could see some punk ass get fucked up on the street by this stuff. lol. I could just imagine somebody running at the guy and then getting flipped and thrown on his ass.
Emosucks1991 4 years ago
Oh, sorry. Instead of pushing uke down, I make a curve with my arm at the side of uke's head. The flow of the movement should be as if coming from uke's center on uke's front, and returning toward uke's center at his rear.
Maybe you can see what I mean on the video with iriminage as knife defense. You find it on my channel.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
What dan are u?
Runescaper904614 4 years ago
6 dan Aikikai.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
Good videos as always. When I learned this technique the movement for unbalancing and taking uke to the ground was explained to me (and I explain it now) as an ocean wave lifting uke up onto his toes, rolling back over his center and then (as I drop ki) crashing through him to the ground.
catnip1970 4 years ago
That's a wonderful description. Still, it might not be the most aiki way of doing the technique. I like the idea of joining with uke's ki, and choosing the directions that it will naturally agree on.
Well, I like some crashing too, sometimes :)
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
Darn, you cut it off at the good point, when sensei was explaining how to unbalance the posture.
skanemermaid 4 years ago