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  • This just proves that women still don't have much to contribute to society as far as using strategy/creativity except for mezmorizing men with their bodies so they'll spend money on them. I do know a few women into war gaming and they are usually very talented and creative and because they are gabbing on about useless bullshit like the kardashians they are actually great to talk to.

  • Typical lazy hack journalism. I'd point out why this report is wrong, but what would be the point. Society isn't interested, if they did they wouldn't stigmatise gamers; no matter what they play. It's that this report focuses on negative comments (i.e. girl gamers or being weird), all of which have been created by a society who know nothing about wargaming/RPG's. Perhaps highlighting positives, should have been the focus - social skills, literacy/numeracy, problem solving; tactics/strategy.

  • @LiviDragon exactly. dont worry noone watched this show. I think if you enjoy it, gets you meeting other people and is positive then why not?

    I dont like fitting into what society tells me I should: I play sport (on time at a professional level), love gaming, comics is a passion of mine and could easily fit into a Jock-type mould. I do whatever the heck I enjoy

  • ive been around video gamers, poker players and table top model/RPG gamers and what ive learned

    1. RPG tend to have jobs and a life the hobby aspect tends to reduce stress

    2. video gamers still live with their parents, constantly making sexual, and violent threats when they loose, and are defficent is social skills thought they will never admit it

    3. poker players definetly the worst were talking major dirt bags

  • @godscuttingyoudown Have you ever gone LARPING?

    I hear it hurts lol....

  • This report fails i know political leaders and Celebrities that play anything from 40k fow to d&d and live role playing yes u meet the occasional wierdo who just freaks you out or is just plain anti social but look at nrl union ir even racing. Ive met a wanker in each category why should wargamers be slegded out?

  • That bitch.....just called my Space Marines......toys....... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

  • "Is it quite addictive once you get started?"

    "urrrr, I like the painting..."

    Durp.

  • so, playing a social game which needs creativity patience tactical mind, social skills, steady hand is the strangest thing since rosewell, but its perfectly acceptable for people to vegetate in front of a xbox or ps3 or a pc for hours on end? im sorry which is weirder? BUT on a side not 40k gamers are the weirdest! get in 40k for the win i say!! much love xxxxxx

  • Great to see the Aussies having some fun gaming. If anyone from Aus plays ASL please visit our fan page on face-book just search Advanced Squad Leader Fan Page and come join us.

  • @VeryLimitedaddition It's New Zealand you idiot.

  • Flames of War looks interesting, too bad no one plays it around here.

  • Bit patronising this video. Fear not tho! Not all us wargamers are ugly ass geeks. I Dj electro house all over Europe, my missus is an oriental fetish model and I'm an avid 40k player! If I'm a geek I'm proud to be one!

  • We really like your Flames of War WW2 game and minis up here in the Great White North. It really great to bring friends together to socialize over the long cold winters.

  • what the hell does Europe have to do with this!? I use to wargame in high school..20 yrs ago. I miss it. then I started using dbaol.com. Then I bought a new computer with Windows 7 and DBA doesn't run on my computer. And I asked the designers of the game if they r gonna update dbaol and they said no. so wtf. Guess I am stuck with Rise of Nations.

  • Ha ha ha! I'm a wargamer for 35 years and i thought it was funny!

  • what bunch of dickheads just making us look like nerds

  • Nice to see I am not alone in the world when it comes to gaming.

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  • sorry, but this is just kind of insulting and really sort of mean spirited...

  • the reporter chick is hot....

  • I hate this news station. Just trying to make us look like holed-up creeps that sit around and "still play with toy soldiers." They are not toys. They are intricately detailed models that are incredibly hard to paint and model. The tactics are extremely in depth, which these reporters obviously do not understand, and wargaming creates a universe in which a gamer may forget about the troubles of the real world for a while and just explore science fiction technologies and cultures.

  • @BlutEisenRegel ya...and don't forget military history.

  • Haha this seems a bit tongue-in-cheek to me. I think most wargamers would admit there's not a lot of girls playing and that they are a bit weird - but who wouldn't admit to being at least a little weird?

  • TV always likes to belittle table top gamers but I did think that was quite entertaining. I loved the old guys face when they were argueing about phosperous bombs.

  • This would be alot better without that music that keeps playing I like the song but Its used really badly in this video

  • Board wargamers are the "sub-genus" to which I belong, and I doubt you could pick me out of a crowd, though I'm considered highly weird......

  • Haha I love this but I have never played the game, I guess it is time for me to go to the model shop and pick up a gamer manual. I play Total war games but table top is great also.

  • I wanna play with them :D

  • there a 3 regular female gamers at my store. Its quiet funny playing one of them, as when ever i say im gonna shoot the hell out of a unit she just shouts "i'll show you my boobs"

  • @TheWolfBearProject What would they show if you let em win then? :p

  • im akid and ther are soooooooo many sterotypes about kids only liking videogames but i have 2 2000 pt armies

    and 1 5000 pt army

  • im a kid too i like my xbox but wargaming is 10 times as good i play warhammer fantasy 40k and flames of war

  • A bit dissapointing how the wargaming community was displayed by this report. Too bad for the unknowing viewers!

  • Well come on... like you would find that much of a different crowd at a video game convetion? :P

  • that news girl is hot as hell

  • david farrier needs to go and get fucked

    wargaming is awesome

    and he has to admit that

  • @ultramarine1234

    I got the impression he thought it was interesting. He just didn't want to spend all of his time about a bunch of guys... can't say I blame him. Why can't we wargamers have the equivalent of the fragdolls?

  • yeah he just didnt want to admit it on live tv

  • Its time eating D:

  • at 1:03 a girl walks by

  • He make it sound like the game is for nerds, wich maybe it is but still.

    Awesome things stays awesome, and Warhammer is one of those things ;)

  • what a comment i totally agree

  • David farrier sounds like a douche i mean

    omg these adults play with toy soldiers....

    umm...age-group-ist???

  • wow ok so it was kinda funny and a littletrue but it still pissed me off im a wargamer and im really normel lol i play sports im popualr at school and everything i can see yea some of the 40k gamers are pretty out there and i find it intertaining when ppl are obessed with wargaming im about to get into flames of war but its really exspansiveiv been playing the GW lotr game for the last couple of years yea the report could have been done differetly and in a positive way to get ppl into wargaming

  • yeah it pissed me off

    too i look normal im cool

    i have friends

    so why to they

    stereotype

    us as nerds?

  • @johnbadboysmith I agree. I was going to play lotr but no one around me plays it. People play Flames of war (which was my second choice) so I was thinking about playing that. I havent tabletoped before, and this video almost completly turned me off to it.

  • @LordAstaris this is a piss take dont let it put u off

  • @LordAstaris

    Not all wargamers are like this... This video just looks like a collection of piss-takes intended to get people to play videogames and not wargames..

  • yeah i find alot of 40k people strange, i go into games workshop and some guys really scare me..omfg if i hear that europe song one more time!

  • WTF, we don't all like europe.. jeez

  • my and my friends are proud to me nerds and play wargaming to

  • seriously...how wargaming radically different from playing cards or chess

    I dunno I think an adult playing a console game is more "childish" than adults who play a tabletop strategy games

  • yes wargaming actually involves your

    brain and art skills

    rather than your thumbs glued to an xbox controller

  • actually i do both lol

  • I dont like the way the report was done.

    also female gamers are not all that rare.

  • I agree, the way they were talking about it made it seem that only no life freaks play it, but thats not true at all. Most of the people ive met are normal people, they just like to play miniature strategy games. Whats so wrong with that? How is playing a miniature strategy game any weirder than playing a strategy game on the computer? I also know about 4 female wargamers.

  • playing with toy soldiers an insult

  • this was such a weird piece of reporting, obviously there's very few female players, it's a geeky activity, what's the point of rubbing it in...

  • I wish I had friends who war gamed.

    why do ppl see it ok for adults to play console games but not tabletop. I found the video a bit of a piss take.

    It's all about the imagination. I'm always looking for a turn based stratergy ps3 games but they just never make them.

    1 day there will be a warhammer 40k movie. it will kick arse. thats if it get the right budget.

  • yeah, and this is not "playing with toy soldiers" it's like a modern game of chess (not saying that its anything like chess just, yeah you get it..)

  • Its just an RTS, but u paint it yourself... it pisses me off when people compare it to D&D

  • they r making a third person shooter for ps3 and 360 called space marine but its not turned based

  • i have one friend whos a wargamer and it took me a year to get him into it

  • @mitchiemasha  thats right!

  • @mitchiemasha They are making it right now. The trailer is out.

  • @mitchiemasha GM have an Ultramarine film in the works apparently....cgi though,so we'll have to wait and see.

  • @mitchiemasha First if they make civilization revolution for ps3 thats your game, second they are making a 40k movie called Ultramarines, yah suck it has to be Ultramarines, and it looks like it will be good.

  • @mitchiemasha Better to hope it gets the right director/producer.

  • @mitchiemasha and now we have a 40k movie, and it hasn't changed anything at all! :(

  • they are not toy soldiers!!! I hate it when people call them that! >:(

  • "with penetration complete, it was finally time to find out how to get involved."

    Uh huh. By that point involvement is pretty clear.

  • What was with all the Europe as background music? I actually expected to hear some DragonForce or something hard.

    For a gamer chick she's very attractive. You don't see that much.

    I love how it seems to lampoon gamers. We'll never escape that kinda thing will we? I figured that outside the US it wasn't seen as odd for guys to play wargames. I guess we're seen as freaks no matter where we are.

  • hmm.. the thing about 40k is (gladly ^^) true.

  • That lady was quite cute for a girl wargammer, most of the time they are fat hags.

  • FOW 4 life

  • lol

  • Hahaha!!!

    This news make fool of war gamers,right?

    I like miniatures though

  • There are girls who play. Infact, my girlfriend is one of them.

  • "I don't see a lot of girls playing, mainly guys. Is this mainly a guy thing?" I got a kick out of how a girl was walking by when he said that.

  • sure it wasent just a guy with long hair lol ?

  • I recon warhammer sucks as a former player i realised GW only wants to rip you off and that when i was young the warhammer history became the real thing to me, im glad to be out of 40k and am even happier to be playing FOW. Thats my opinion though.

  • it got really bad and reached its peak id say around 2006. But actually its gotten better. Much of there product now is plastic and are being sold at decent prices. $22 for a ten men unit. Though it is true youll prob need 4 to get a decent army, you dont have to shell out $40 off the bat. You can build as you go, and arent forced to get all at once. I think in that respect it has gotten better. And the actual GW stores arent as anal as before.

  • i think women don't play because they didn't play with green army men as kids, so why would they play with more complicated army men when they got older.

  • erin + squig!! wish the girls i game with looked like that.

  • David use to play , like he just found out.

    He has a war hammer VIP card

  • 40k kicks ass!!!!

  • 0:50 - WARMACHINE!!!

  • I wish more channels did programs on wargaming or atlest something close like an tv show , instead they put on stupid crime shows and all

    that bullshit.

  • I hate people who think they're better than others just because some people enjoy a fun hobby.

  • 40K players are the weirdos? Dude, I don't even play much 40K anymore and I find that offensive.

  • well he means look at them go me im f.o.w im normal woop woop woop woop woop

  • The thing I find annoying is that this reporter thinks that there must be women involved to make it socially acceptable. Err? Rugby and American Football involve neither. Besides, I am not defined by myself being a wargamer, but my participation in Wargaming is defined by me. This guy just cannot accept that we are normal. Sure we play with plastic men, fine by me, but we do have that normal streak in us like all of those people proved.

  • @Fireharte I agree with you, I myself am a wargamer, I find it perfectly normal, sure you get the odd few people that might take it a 'bit' too seriously but I find that most people are 'normal'. IMHO I consider the whole hobby perfectly acceptable, far better than taking drugs or drinking.

  • @Fireharte Why do you say no women play rugby when there are womens teams everywhere including in my home country New Zealand they are called the Black ferns look them up.

  • HA! A female walks by in the background as he says that there aren't many girls that play.

  • dont bag 40k dick screw you!!

  • Why the shit do they keep dropping in The Final Countdown?

  • yeah :)

    That was awesome. Probably going to show all of my friends.

  • that woman needs to be shot

  • can I have some shoes?

  • CHRIST ON A CROSS how did He get on this?!!?

  • It is understandable that some people may see the hobby of painting for and playing wargames as "geeky". But it must also be said how underestimated it is altogether. Video games have too much that is pre-designed, and for anyone that has played video games, they will remember that the most fun one has is when the game and the story can be shared and when whatever happened was one's own "story". Wargaming offers that: every battle, every army, every campaign is tailored by the players.

  • wargaming is the bomb its so much better than pc ps3 and xbox360 gaming which is really annoying with noobs and 10 yr old kids crying over xbox live and such lol

  • True that!

  • Haha, the final countdown! awesome

  • LOL STOP AT 3:07 FUNNNNY FACE

  • In New Zealand Perhaps but in America "OMG UR A GURL CAN I SEE UR B00BZ." Tragic really.

  • wtf stop butchering the english language

  • I was quoting... Sorry for that anyway...

  • Sorry, just enforcing the stereotypes. As a fellow wargamer, I really don't care about any differentiating features on other people.

  • lmao i just diddnt understand what you were saing now that i look back i was a little rude srry

  • lol..if i played that..i would go "black hawk down" with my choppers...and then there goes my hard work in painting a helicopter

  • Oh guys...this is bleak...

    Regards

    Fellow Gamer.

  • microwargaming i paused like you said in the comment and i fell on the floor because of how funny it was!!!! every1 pause at 3:04!!!!

  • omg whats with the final countdown i hate that song!!!!!!!!!

  • lol pause it at 304 its the funniest face ever

  • hehe hell yeah xD

  • Dude, that's the best worst song ever!

  • aw man, not cool.

  • why? it's true!!!

  • Lol. "The crazies are deffinately the 40K players". My friends and I are 40K gamers, and I would say what that guy said is true.

  • thats the truth

  • Agreed. Tournaments can be quite chaotic, but in a fun way.

  • fow for life budder

  • My mae cassie splits a vampire counts army with her boyfriend.Games worckshops the way foward.

  • I'm a girl and I wargame.

    My favourite game is Wargods of Aegytpus. Hey I can play Catgirls, what more can I say ;-).

    I also play Flames of War, Russian Infantry, that my hubby converted into all girls for me.

    I started off with DBA and some Hott, but don't play them much any more.

    We also have another female friend who wargames as well, but not so much since she had kids.

  • umm is that wargaming in nz or wargaming in auckland? 'cause i dunno but in wellington u have more people age 10-25 and almost never get 50+

    but it is true that woman wargamers are rare, i've seen only 4 in my life  (one of them being my mother that sometimes has a massive word wargame with my father :D)

  • ya, if wargamers want to be considered unnerdy, theyve really got to stop stereotyping themselves. i mean, i play 40k, and im super normal. and why is it that gamers bald faster? just wondering, no offense to anyone.

  • I agree, but we wargamers/modellers just have to come to the realization that we are a bunch of weird guys and gals! I mean, we paint and push around small toys, usually screaming out taunts and making strange noises while we're at it! But, in the end, you can't be pushed around by what society dictates is "weird" or not; and besides, everyone has their own eccentricities, whether it's wargaming or some other hobby.

  • yeah thats what im talking about!

  • Female wargamer! They exist?

  • It's all a conspiracy!

  • what do you get when you win a tourniment

  • your dignity.

  • Come, Gather round and see the spectacle of Kiwi news reporters patronising the rare and elusive geek!

    Worst thing is, i recognised everything shown, and know that i own most of it :D

    Were all geeks really, and we love it!

    I play with toy soldiers! ^^

  • "Investigates."

  • LOLOL i love wargames, and adding final countdown was TOPS ::thumbs up::

  • No LOTR gamers. WTF. Were a rare breed.

  • The LoTR wargame by GW was a huge failure

  • that poor UC was brewed up :(

  • This news broadcast was making fun.

  • That looked like the most boring thing ever.

  • there makeing fun of us nerds

  • I am weird at all

  • LOL i know far to many people in this clip *lol*

  • the guy in the red shirt ..is really good in bed hehehe

  • "useless people"?

    Go back to your computer game. Most of us will continue to collect, paint and play games with other human beings rather than pixels on a screen.

  • They call it toy soldiers??? A Disgrace!

  • boo to the guy in the red dress shirt im a warhammer 40k player and where tall-Ts wen i play and im not weird

  • Wargaming is awesome! I just got back from Historicon, excellent as always

  • Exactly. The people who say this is boring are the ones who prefer to fuck up their liver every saturday night and like to think they get drunk out of their minds.

  • yea the "haters", who put down other people because theyre insecure with the shit life they live themselves.

  • im a 40k player and im not weird-.-

  • everyone likes painting at first then when u really start playing u like playing more. lol

  • nice shop, in ireland the wargame shops (mostly games workshop) are small

  • same in most small town nz i have 2 in my town but 1 specilizes on scenery stuff other paints and guys but scene 1 more expensive

  • same i live in scotland my games workshop is massive where as the others are tiny

  • do they even know england made warhammer??

  • i dont think so

  • Not sure about the repeated use of the Europe song, but an entertaining and well-produced little news story there. Quite enjoyed it!

  • Very cool. I think the reporter did a good job. I'd love to play a game with the older fellow.

  • The newscaster is cute.

  • woah, gotta move to nz

  • yeaboy gotta cum

  • i used to love playing 40k but i had to stop cos it was costin me lots

  • 40K gamers weird,i resent that remark....wibble,wibble.

  • I'll embrace it :D

  • yeah i play 40k and flames of war

  • Nothing says freedom like a hobby shop. It's the only place where men and sometimes women can sit down and exchange ideas without drunks, naked dancers, and loud music getting in the way...

  • I wouldn't mind naked dancers in my local hobby store :D