i know a kid named ratcliff and we call him rat and he like to jump of cliffs i am going to get a lot of hate comments thats why his last name was ratcliff to be funny but thats his last name
C.HORDECKIs' WEC debut was comical.Guess he forgot he was in a fight lol.After FORREST getting KOed by A.SILVA.I rank HORDECKIs' TKO loss to NJOKUANI the 2nd most laughable in 2009.Definately a highlight reel,or should I say a lowlight for HORDECKI.
After watching this fight I think Dean had a race thing going for cerrone. Even after the fight he looked pissed off. Great fight though. Cerrone is a tough guy, those leg kicks are vicious.
@TheSirTAK Not sure yet and don't have time to look right now, but check out the hype video on here in about a week or so, I'll post my picks on there.
I saw no fight...Just the hype video thats been here for weeks. WHen yu say "Fight" please contain one in yer video to avoid being called a f*ckin retard.
i started watching the WEC before i became familiar with the UFC... i kinda like how the WEC is not as popular as the UFC. there aren't nearly as many tough guy casual mma fans who sit around thinking they know everything about this sport. Let's go Benavidez. :)
@Ricerboy21 I'm not gonna lie, I do watch the UFC more. HOWEVER, sometimes the WEC is more entertaining. Seems with most of the fighters in the WEC being less popular than those in the UFC forces them to have more to prove to make a name for themselves. You dont see as much pretty boy bullshyt. These guys just go out there to put on the best fight they can, Win or Lose.
that is tru the WEC is more entertaing cuz i find most of the fighters in this organization have great stand up which makes great stand up wars, i wanted Ratcliffe to win but those cock shots really took alot out of him, cerrone should have been DQ'D he hit him like 5 or 4 times in the ballz. ufc isn't as entertain becuz guy in that organization are more well rounded but i like ufc i'll watch any sorta fighting related thing i'll watch mma, boxing, kick boxing it really doesn't matter to me
I dont understand this shit! The WEC fighters are so quick, so flexible and so explosive and exciting! Why the hell dont the WEC fighters get incorperated in to the UFC and there cards!? The WEC fighters are also sooooooooo Under paid in comparison to the UFC fighters! And for what reason!? Because there a lighter weight!? these guys are really entertaining and could really help to sell UFC cards!
WEC was created in 2001,and had bouts in all weight classes.Zuffa (owners of ufc) purchased WEC in dec 2006,and continued with that format.This made it hard to secure a TV deal. Zuffa then decided to change the format (ie the weight classes) holding only bouts with the smaller divisions. They then secured a TV contract with "Versus". They will not be incorporated with the UFC. There is now talk of adding a flyweight div.,as well as womens' bouts.
Reason for only the smaller weight classes. Is about the TV deals. No one wanted to pick up the WEC if the fighters were going to get good ,get exsposure,then move on to the big show (ufc). See previous post for other changes made by ZUFFA.
Some fighters who have fought in both promotions.Dan Severn,Dan Magee,Hemes Franca,James Irvin,Brandon Vera,Leonard Garcia prior to the FORMAT change.
Even Chuck Liddell was,at one point staged to fight in the WEC. Dana White and Reed Harris, (manager for the WEC) were in simultaneous negotiations with Chuck. It was at that point, it was decided by both, that it was in Chucks better interests to fight in the UFC.
My source for this info is not wikipedia. It is in fact derived from UFC magazines' premiere issue.(UFC #1)
They had an very excellent,insightfull story on the beginings of the WEC. I recommend the read to any MMA fan. So you are wrong about LIDDELL,what I said about him is indeed FACT, read the article.
Well it looks like all you did was copy and paste wikipedia, UFC was founded prior to the WEC. I would guess that Liddell was in the UFC before his offer to join the WEC? So why would the UFC offer their most valuable fighter to go to the WEC that doesnt make sense.
Nope, what I did was read the article "Men in Blue" in UFC issue #1.Then short of coping the whole article,I pulled out facts that I felt best answered some of the other ??s on this page. Yes LIDDELL had been under contract in the UFC. But in 2001,with WECs debut :Princes of Pain,at Tachi Yokut casino in Cali. Reed Harris had LIDDELL signed. After negotiations he never made the appearance in the WEC.
Liddell joined the UFC in 1998, three years prior to the start of the WEC. The year that the WEC opened, Liddell was the number one contender for the UFC belt. He would not even consider leaving the UFC at that time, besides the fact that his contract most likely would not let him. I find your story hard to believe.
Yes it is true, and like TITO revealed at the post ORTIZ vs GRIFFEN press conference,and what many people don't know. Is, prior to D.W. becoming the UFC prez, thanx to the FERTITTAs' money. He once managed fighters,like ORTIZ and LIDDELL. Which is also part of the reason LIDDELL was and still is to this day,one of the highest paid fighters in UFC history. For example; UFC 76 in Anaheim,
Dude your hardnosed arn't ya. You're not talking with a casual fan here. This is the only sport I watch (strait-up). I live in Canada and don't even watch hockey.
So once again the article is "Men in Blue" it's in the #1 issue of UFC magazine. I can tell you're not a TROLL,which is why I'm still talking to ya. LIDDELL then went on to KO Kevin Randleman at UFC31,and become the face of the organization(UFC).In fact LIDDELL fought at the PRIDE GP,Nov9, 2003. He was TKOed by RAMPAGE.
The WEC was formed in 2001. It was purchased in Dec. 2006 by Zuffa. They then tranplanted the league to Las Vegas, for it's 1st show at the Hard Rock Casino Jan.20, 2007.Zuffa then dissolved the WECs' heavyweights,and introduced a modified octagon (26').Last September2008they then got rid of the lightheavy,middle,and welterweight divisions and moved those fighters to the UFC.This is as I've said already helped secure the TV deal with VERSUS.
And most of the good ones had maybe one or two fights before being moved up... There are only a handful of a fighters in the WEC who could really make it in the UFC, and there aren't very many top level fighters in the UFC who came from the WEC.
Hence why in my one post I said the guys who moved over with the merger (because they had higher weight classes). Oh and in case you missed it, they still have a 155 weight class, as does the UFC.
Some of the differences are the octagon,the UFCs' octagon is 30',the WECs' is 27'. The action is faster paced with the smaller guys.These guys in general don't get gassed .Same level of skill though,for example KOs & SUBS.The pay scale is alot lower compared to the UFC.For example, FRANKIE EDGAR fights at 155 because the pay is better there.(ufc) He still does awsome,but the guys are usually bigger than him.There's also talk of the having the women compete in the WEC.
lol if your not an mma dan u dont care about this fight but if u are an mma fan u know this fight is going to be great for sure in the great words of ed ratcliff KARATE BITCHES
@JonathanMarsden62 yeah WEC is no UFC, but they have more top notch fighter per event than UFC has recently, we don't want couture or ortiz on the main card please Dana. Not unless its for #1 contender or a title shot. Penn Sanchez, Machida Shogun is more like it.
ufc is better than wec in my opinion
mogloc 3 months ago
w0w the advertisement is way to fkning long
0XXSTR0XX1 1 year ago
WEC is trash.....its full of nobodies.......except for like 2 fighters, if that..........UFC is where its at.
64522744 1 year ago
@64522744 You're dumb as hell since WEC simply was the UFC just for smaller fighters.
Wh1teB0ii369 1 year ago
i know a kid named ratcliff and we call him rat and he like to jump of cliffs i am going to get a lot of hate comments thats why his last name was ratcliff to be funny but thats his last name
comandoboy21 1 year ago
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81giantkiller 2 years ago
C.HORDECKIs' WEC debut was comical.Guess he forgot he was in a fight lol.After FORREST getting KOed by A.SILVA.I rank HORDECKIs' TKO loss to NJOKUANI the 2nd most laughable in 2009.Definately a highlight reel,or should I say a lowlight for HORDECKI.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
After watching this fight I think Dean had a race thing going for cerrone. Even after the fight he looked pissed off. Great fight though. Cerrone is a tough guy, those leg kicks are vicious.
joebro82 2 years ago
Absoulutely, I luved those leg strikes.Wicked fffn legstrikes.Had to say.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
@TheSirTAK Not sure yet and don't have time to look right now, but check out the hype video on here in about a week or so, I'll post my picks on there.
MrMMAPredictions 2 years ago
@TheSirTAK Thanks, I did actually win 40 bucks. :)
MrMMAPredictions 2 years ago
I saw no fight...Just the hype video thats been here for weeks. WHen yu say "Fight" please contain one in yer video to avoid being called a f*ckin retard.
Random2381 2 years ago
Here's who I think will win:
Donald Cerrone via submission
Anthony Njokuani via TKO
Rani Yahya via submission
Scott Jorgensen via unanimous decision
MrMMAPredictions 2 years ago
Cerrone, ma gostek talent...szok.
siemko79 2 years ago
i started watching the WEC before i became familiar with the UFC... i kinda like how the WEC is not as popular as the UFC. there aren't nearly as many tough guy casual mma fans who sit around thinking they know everything about this sport. Let's go Benavidez. :)
Ricerboy21 2 years ago 2
@Ricerboy21 I'm not gonna lie, I do watch the UFC more. HOWEVER, sometimes the WEC is more entertaining. Seems with most of the fighters in the WEC being less popular than those in the UFC forces them to have more to prove to make a name for themselves. You dont see as much pretty boy bullshyt. These guys just go out there to put on the best fight they can, Win or Lose.
VValrus 2 years ago 3
that is tru the WEC is more entertaing cuz i find most of the fighters in this organization have great stand up which makes great stand up wars, i wanted Ratcliffe to win but those cock shots really took alot out of him, cerrone should have been DQ'D he hit him like 5 or 4 times in the ballz. ufc isn't as entertain becuz guy in that organization are more well rounded but i like ufc i'll watch any sorta fighting related thing i'll watch mma, boxing, kick boxing it really doesn't matter to me
JuKa3177 2 years ago
@VValrus haha i thought i was the only one who felt that way
dontgetKTFObyme 1 year ago
lol
10557901 2 years ago
last i recall sean sherk called out ur bitchboy floyd mayweather and mayweather turned it down. Yeah, so fuck off
garynotrashcougar 2 years ago
get WEC on uk tv for fuck sake we miss sum great fights
crackfiend888 2 years ago
looks like its gunna be hell of a fight!
tjcmay05tyjoshcal 2 years ago
sub to gijoyojo1 for good fight picks
gijoyojo1 2 years ago
mir should have his own show.. where he $hit talks fighters.. then they beat him up
specialformula14 2 years ago
brilliant
stardustbinbag 2 years ago
It looks to me like,Gangster vs Cowboy..Should be off The Hook..??
tkshk1904 2 years ago
cowboy ftw!!
ichimaxru 2 years ago
i wanna see this..
afrokidryder 2 years ago
this isnt ufc
realfunnybunny 2 years ago
i think ufc owns it though
Gunskie 2 years ago
cerrone beat henderson all henderson did was get some shitty takedowns
mortalkombatfan24 2 years ago
GO COWBOY!
HFC11492 2 years ago
i am going to this !!! :D
ratclif is taking for sure !
zangdo 2 years ago
ratcliff will win no doubt
LilBlitz116 2 years ago
go cerrone
crazydan1 2 years ago
I dont understand this shit! The WEC fighters are so quick, so flexible and so explosive and exciting! Why the hell dont the WEC fighters get incorperated in to the UFC and there cards!? The WEC fighters are also sooooooooo Under paid in comparison to the UFC fighters! And for what reason!? Because there a lighter weight!? these guys are really entertaining and could really help to sell UFC cards!
aussiejosh81 2 years ago
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T3hK3nny 2 years ago
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there is some speculation that the 2 will consolidate in 2010. seems inevitable, cheers
jeremyshambles 2 years ago
WEC was created in 2001,and had bouts in all weight classes.Zuffa (owners of ufc) purchased WEC in dec 2006,and continued with that format.This made it hard to secure a TV deal. Zuffa then decided to change the format (ie the weight classes) holding only bouts with the smaller divisions. They then secured a TV contract with "Versus". They will not be incorporated with the UFC. There is now talk of adding a flyweight div.,as well as womens' bouts.
81giantkiller 2 years ago 4
Reason for only the smaller weight classes. Is about the TV deals. No one wanted to pick up the WEC if the fighters were going to get good ,get exsposure,then move on to the big show (ufc). See previous post for other changes made by ZUFFA.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Womens bout, as well as a flywight is a great idea.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago 2
Some fighters who have fought in both promotions.Dan Severn,Dan Magee,Hemes Franca,James Irvin,Brandon Vera,Leonard Garcia prior to the FORMAT change.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Even Chuck Liddell was,at one point staged to fight in the WEC. Dana White and Reed Harris, (manager for the WEC) were in simultaneous negotiations with Chuck. It was at that point, it was decided by both, that it was in Chucks better interests to fight in the UFC.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Wikipedia can be written by anyone. Liddell would never be asked or be a part of the WEC. Hes the most well known MMA fighter of all time.
bballermc33 2 years ago
Ya, ok pal whatever you say.
My source for this info is not wikipedia. It is in fact derived from UFC magazines' premiere issue.(UFC #1)
They had an very excellent,insightfull story on the beginings of the WEC. I recommend the read to any MMA fan. So you are wrong about LIDDELL,what I said about him is indeed FACT, read the article.
Nice try though.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Well it looks like all you did was copy and paste wikipedia, UFC was founded prior to the WEC. I would guess that Liddell was in the UFC before his offer to join the WEC? So why would the UFC offer their most valuable fighter to go to the WEC that doesnt make sense.
bballermc33 2 years ago
Nope, what I did was read the article "Men in Blue" in UFC issue #1.Then short of coping the whole article,I pulled out facts that I felt best answered some of the other ??s on this page. Yes LIDDELL had been under contract in the UFC. But in 2001,with WECs debut :Princes of Pain,at Tachi Yokut casino in Cali. Reed Harris had LIDDELL signed. After negotiations he never made the appearance in the WEC.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Liddell joined the UFC in 1998, three years prior to the start of the WEC. The year that the WEC opened, Liddell was the number one contender for the UFC belt. He would not even consider leaving the UFC at that time, besides the fact that his contract most likely would not let him. I find your story hard to believe.
bballermc33 2 years ago
nono actually this is true. after Lidell lost to couture in 2002 Dana was looking to "pimp him out", which he eventually did to Pride.
But had a deal before that with the THEN owners of WEC. I believe that was in 2002 though.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
Yes it is true, and like TITO revealed at the post ORTIZ vs GRIFFEN press conference,and what many people don't know. Is, prior to D.W. becoming the UFC prez, thanx to the FERTITTAs' money. He once managed fighters,like ORTIZ and LIDDELL. Which is also part of the reason LIDDELL was and still is to this day,one of the highest paid fighters in UFC history. For example; UFC 76 in Anaheim,
LIDDELL ($500,000).
JARDINE ($7,000) +(7,000)win bonus.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
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Thats cause people wanted to see him
xTURDSANDWICHx 2 years ago
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More like Carrone vs. Poopcliff.
zedrein18 2 years ago
Dude your hardnosed arn't ya. You're not talking with a casual fan here. This is the only sport I watch (strait-up). I live in Canada and don't even watch hockey.
So once again the article is "Men in Blue" it's in the #1 issue of UFC magazine. I can tell you're not a TROLL,which is why I'm still talking to ya. LIDDELL then went on to KO Kevin Randleman at UFC31,and become the face of the organization(UFC).In fact LIDDELL fought at the PRIDE GP,Nov9, 2003. He was TKOed by RAMPAGE.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
I believe you, he fought Guy Mezgar prior to his rampage fight and won in pride, and the Rampage fight was stopped by his corner.
bballermc33 2 years ago
The WEC was formed in 2001. It was purchased in Dec. 2006 by Zuffa. They then tranplanted the league to Las Vegas, for it's 1st show at the Hard Rock Casino Jan.20, 2007.Zuffa then dissolved the WECs' heavyweights,and introduced a modified octagon (26').Last September2008they then got rid of the lightheavy,middle,and welterweight divisions and moved those fighters to the UFC.This is as I've said already helped secure the TV deal with VERSUS.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
Ratcliff is gonna whoop that ass
FlakJacket86 2 years ago
cerrone will stomp ratcliffs ass
BigMiahVATN 2 years ago
Every WEC event this year has been more exciting then the most of the big leagues.
kevin604bc 2 years ago 4
yupppp
FlakJacket86 2 years ago
is WEC 135 and 145?
thosedamnhooligans 2 years ago
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WEC? WHAT THE FUCK UFC!
SinDragonSD 2 years ago
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WEC - Irrelevent
xxxFaustusxxx 2 years ago
My brotherss Njokuani and E.R. are about to rip this shit. This is going to be the first WEC card I watch fully.
7Lhaxx 2 years ago
what happened to urijah faber
23SuS23 2 years ago
@23SuS23 He lost to Mike Brown. Now he has to work his way back up for a shot at the title.
EyeTagGrinnin 2 years ago
more technical and a faster pace
ketchupi1 2 years ago
WEC is 155 lbs and down its a sister company to the ufc
ketchupi1 2 years ago
lol ratcliff looks like brad pitt rofl!!
westerlund24 2 years ago
fuck off
zedrein18 2 years ago
Ive never watched WEC, are the fighters as good as ufc fighters?
rand0mlyrand0m 2 years ago
The main difference between the two that I can tell is that WEC focuses on the lighter weight classes.
saskew77 2 years ago 2
Thanks
rand0mlyrand0m 2 years ago
Generally speaking, no. Although some of the top WEC fighters could do well in the UFC; as a few who moved over with the mergers did.
JBoo67 2 years ago
There are tons of UFC fighters who got their start in WEC.
woody532 2 years ago
And most of the good ones had maybe one or two fights before being moved up... There are only a handful of a fighters in the WEC who could really make it in the UFC, and there aren't very many top level fighters in the UFC who came from the WEC.
JBoo67 2 years ago
WEC is smaller weight classes stupid fuck
deeziceballz 2 years ago
weight?
LuigiAkAfido 2 years ago 3
Hence why in my one post I said the guys who moved over with the merger (because they had higher weight classes). Oh and in case you missed it, they still have a 155 weight class, as does the UFC.
You stupid fuck...
JBoo67 2 years ago
Some of the differences are the octagon,the UFCs' octagon is 30',the WECs' is 27'. The action is faster paced with the smaller guys.These guys in general don't get gassed .Same level of skill though,for example KOs & SUBS.The pay scale is alot lower compared to the UFC.For example, FRANKIE EDGAR fights at 155 because the pay is better there.(ufc) He still does awsome,but the guys are usually bigger than him.There's also talk of the having the women compete in the WEC.
81giantkiller 2 years ago 6
Thanks for replying man, im a big UFC fan, so i will start watching WEC, =]
rand0mlyrand0m 2 years ago
is the wec only one weight class, i.e lightweights or do they have feathers and bantams etc. ? thank you kindly
jeremyshambles 2 years ago
lightweight, featherweight and bantemweight. 155, 145, 135 atm.... i heard something about a 125 class comin in 2010
T3hK3nny 2 years ago
alright, thanks very much for the info, really appreciate it, cheers
jeremyshambles 2 years ago
ufc fanboys here...
thecrowrip 2 years ago
why the hell is MIR commenting ????
get outa here u bumm
specialformula14 2 years ago
mir has been a WEC commentator forver hes a very good one too
theboywithwings 2 years ago 5
Yes second that, MIR's an awsome announcer for the WEC.
81giantkiller 2 years ago 6
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specialformula14 2 years ago
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mptrax 2 years ago
Brad Pickett will win the title
missionkid 2 years ago
agree
TopazSkillMauler 2 years ago
you know who Brad is? he is a world class fighter amazing boxing and wrestling and jiu jitsu plus tons of heart
missionkid 2 years ago
its great when razor rob gets KTFO wa wa
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
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no one cares about this fight
youtoob246 2 years ago
@youtoob246 itll be a good one
xTURDSANDWICHx 2 years ago
lol if your not an mma dan u dont care about this fight but if u are an mma fan u know this fight is going to be great for sure in the great words of ed ratcliff KARATE BITCHES
theboywithwings 2 years ago
you mean YOU dont care
BanglishBoy 2 years ago
whoo i cant wait!
Prec1ous 2 years ago
Ratcliff is like a smaller version of Jon Jones.
sorealphear95 2 years ago 2
thats what i was thinking strikes like him to
xTURDSANDWICHx 2 years ago
What's up with the related videos? Looks like some arabic shit.
nizepart0519 2 years ago 2
ALL YALL ARE NOOBIES!!!!
xXEverythingfunnyxX 2 years ago
Mizu FTW!!! >:D
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the Nigger vs the red neck!
clash360 2 years ago
Cerrone will win by i think either decision or and easy submission if he wants
mbauer08 2 years ago
this event is going to be good from start to finish! :D
JonathanMarsden62 2 years ago 3
@JonathanMarsden62 yeah WEC is no UFC, but they have more top notch fighter per event than UFC has recently, we don't want couture or ortiz on the main card please Dana. Not unless its for #1 contender or a title shot. Penn Sanchez, Machida Shogun is more like it.
jamesadams117 2 years ago
ratcliffe vs jon bones jones WHAT A FIGHT THAT WOULD BE!!!!!!!!
tufufcboy 2 years ago
jon jones is 205 ratcliff is155, ratcliff wouldn't stand a chance..
guthro123 2 years ago
midget vs skinny legs?
DudeHuge 2 years ago
Does Ratcliff have blue eyes... kool
DecriminalizeLiberty 2 years ago
did you know, name Yahya is equivalent of John in Arabic!
TheCyoruk 2 years ago
purple lips
dtanktdtank 2 years ago
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ko that cowboy redneck piece of shit ma nigga
HafidHassanSkater 2 years ago
shut up frank mir.
BobReefer 2 years ago 2
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Mir !
pedigreeY2J 2 years ago
the nigger is gunna lose
eLLriDe420 2 years ago
second bitch
meprosoccer 2 years ago
Can't wait!!!!
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that nigger is getting KO'd badly.
headhunter0420 2 years ago
the nigg shall win
PrimoSkeeter1904 2 years ago
u and ur dad are both pathetic fags.ill kick ur whole familys ass u trailer bitch.
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heh
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