Jesus was quoting Psalm 21 when he asked "Why have You forsaken Me?" In Habakkuk it tells us that God is too pure to look upon evil. So it is possible that God turned away for the moment that our sins were upon the cross. I know that's not proof but it's something to think about.
one of my friend had showed me this video , the whole muslim thing seems interesting. But it makes no sense to me. Jesus died for us, for our sins. He was killed and he was crucified,Jesus knew what his mission was.. He knew what he was getting into and he had accepted it, to save us. by the way , when the Lord asked " My God, My God why have you forsaken me?" clearly that is NOT a blasphemy, he came down to earth as a human. I could go on. but thats all im allowed to write :( .God loves you! (:
@smile2611 Hello smile, this is one of the things that led me to leaving Christianity many years ago, before I even knew about the bible had been corrupted. How does one part of the trinity "who knew his mission" and fate, suddenly ask why he had been forsaken by the father (who is also him)?
I asked alot of questions like this to my brothers, when it got hard or impossible for them to answer, the old phrase gets drawn out "you just have to have faith"
@mikkars250 Along his journey he knew God was with him the whole time & he thought when it came to the cross God would still be with him, he was but because he took all our burden God had to distant himself for him. Think of it as a paper u split the paper in half now you have two pieces of paper but they are one. Faith is a huge part of it but prayer is what will answer your question. My journey with Christ he has revealed everything to me. You will find ur answers as you get closer to Christ.
I'm a Catholic. I've studied and researched, in great depth, to satiate my profound curiousity of whether or not I belong to the true Christian faith. I asked myself: "Why am I not Orthodox? Why am I not Protestant?"
Then I thought: "Well, why am I even a Christian?" lol
Then I asked myself "Well, why am I not a Muslim?" LOL
So, I'm looking for a *well spoken* Muslim to help teach me about Islam. Dare I say it, even revert. I don't know, yet.
I love the way how Yusuf Estes gently told the interrogative one, who interrupted, "Hold on, okay.. You ask your question and I understood your question, and I'm giving you an answer. Take some time, listen up".
That's how every muslim should act like, and not furious and disorderly.
In the book of Numbers 23:19 it says...... "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill''?
lol. Sheikh Yusuf lost his patience at this guy's idiocy! For the love of God, Jesus's followers knew that he wasn't crucified. There was no deception! The Qu'ran just confirmed that fact
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ok, look if you know jesus was saved raised up by god, remember jesus said that he is the gate and we are the sheep, noone can come to the father but through him, when phillip said show us the father thats all we ask, jesus said how long have you been with me and you say show us the father? if jesus decieved us by saying he is the only way to heavon, then why would god raise up a liar?
Mr Yousuf Estes did neither understand the question, nor did he answer it. The question is still valid: Why should God let suffer innocent people to save his dears? The whole Muslim understanding of the crucifixion is incorrect! It is very unlikely that hundreds of Jews caught the wrong person and nobody knows it. It is also a fairytale that God saved Jesus by raising him to the 3rd heaven. Did the Creator of universe, knower of past and future not find a natural way to save his dear Prophet?
@Nomiboy19 the whole concept of god dieing and committing suicide for is is PAGAN Islam makes it clear and history that only evil doers were kept on a cross
God caused Jesus in a state like sleep and death but he was still alive and God raised him to the skies in order to save him and the Quran clearly says that when Gabriel visited Mary he told her that her son will speak at bundle and old age so this is a point showing the return or christ was meant to be ..
... into Islam, when this religion spread very fast.
If it was true that God saved Jesus in this strange way, than why did he not save the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) by raising into heaven, when he was wounded heavily, lost two teeth and was in danger of life? Why special treatment for Jesus?
The Reality about Jesus could only be clarified by the second coming of Jesus (methaporically, not literally). His Holiness said that God indeed saved his Prophet: /watch?v=vz2nL-8CpSM
ALLAH (S.W.T.) sent Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) an example for mankind, so that is why the Prophet (S.A.W.) was just a simple man, but also the best of all men
and when the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was wounded a lot of blood came from him, and the angel Jibrael (Gabriel) even asked if he would like to seek revenge,
but instead the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) ask ALLAH (S.WT.) to forgave them for they know not of what they do
@Nomiboy19 and God is smarter than 100 jewish people .. u need to strengthen your faith and and learn Islam before you say something about it because we all know you know nothing about it but take a chance to play games and thats considered a sin sir .. God raised Jesus because Jesus was meant to be the Messiah for the whole world but not 2000 years ago ... 2000 years ago he was sent with the gospel and for his people and in future he will come to follow the Islamic Law and be for all people
... it sounds much more like an act of desperation to rise up Jesus alive in the last moment, after all other attempts to save him failed. A perfect God does not need to make exceptions or rather break his own-made laws. But He prepares everything from the outset and then uses the laws to achieve his aims. That is my faith in Allah, that he is perfect. The prevailing concept of Muslims, that Jesus was risen alive into heaven, derives from Christianity and found its way ...
@Nomiboy19 the concept of dieing for sin is unorthodox because never in the Torah does God say anything about this belief instead god makes is a law to follow the commandment or else people will be punished so did YOUR GOD change his mind about salvation all of a sudden? and btw ascension to heavan is natural we all will have that one day ...? u need to strengthen your faith dude because if u say god send a worldwide flood then why cant he trick a bunch of idiots and save the Messiah
...and He knows the past and future, and indeed he exists beyond the spheres of time and space. Today we know that there are many more dimensions and that time and space are no constants (see Theory of Relativity).
So after considering all this, how can one with common-sense accuse our Lord and Creator to have taken such a cheap action to save Jesus from the hands of a few hundred Jews? Was He not all-knowing and the best planner? Did he not know the past and future? ...
@Nomiboy19 you got a poor excuse and weak source and no idea about Islam nor do u have any faith in God if he created Mankind a one of a kind creature from DIRT ,why is it hard for him to lift a man to the heavans like he'll do to our souls .. basic and simple but the Pagan beliefs of Mithraism and Osirisism which stated god sent his son to die for humanity and kill the evil bull .. that Idea was stolen by Paul and he based it on early christianity and thats when the trinity,crucifixtion came
I am talking about contemporary Islamic conception about Jesus, not about the origin of Christian conception. We live in a modern era, and we have a completely new understanding of universe, space and time. To understand my point you first have to consider the incredible size and age of the universe and the quasi perfection of creation. And now imagine that this God, who btw is claiming to be perfect, all-knowing, and the best planner. ...
@serasra........Islam doesn't allow an individual to have a 2nd wife unless u have the consent of your 1st wife or if ur 1st wife is dead or divorced........and Islam never teaches u donate to muslims onlee........serasrs.....there is a saying.....'u can drag a horse to the water ....but u cant make him dreenk it.".......the case is same wid u........i personalee believe u need to consult a psychiatrist.........u r not being logical.......FREAK
If he was a Priest he would know what the words mean when Jesus said My god why have you forsaken me' Jesus was quoting last words of a Psalm to fullfil it, how is it Yusef dont know that? i know it and im not a priest?? and he isnt answering the question cirkeling around it, the person asked why did Allah deceive all those people? And Yusef is wrong people at that time believed it was Jesus th quran even teachess that!! even Mary didnt see the difference so whos to blame we have Christians??
Actually, God can do what he want. Who are we to say that God must follow the same morality concept that we imposed on ourselves.
And besides, God knows better what we do not know. It may appear bad, but in reality it may not be, as the people will never accept Islam in the first place.
It's like the feeling of pain. It may appear bad for us, at first, but in reality it's a self protection mechanism, that we may avoid ourselves from harm.
Arrogance has no place with thy Lord. God knows better
Yes God can do what he wants, am i saying otherwise? im saying The God of the Bible is Holy,your Allah isnt he plots,lies and deceives that cant be Holy, Our God has no darkness in him he dont needs to lie or deceive it goes against his nature, Thats why we have satan ''Who are we to say that God must follow the same morality concept that we imposed on ourselves'' God sets the morality standard he teaches us how we should be,we art to be Godlike and God is love so we must be loving to every1
And Islam is not the true religion because... your feelings says so? Or your biased wrong informed opinions?
Here's the thing. If you want to decide if Islam or Christianity is the true religion, instead of using your insignificant feelings to decide, why don't you use evidences?
That's more logical. I'm getting sick of Christians using their feelings as basis for arguments. We don't care how you feel! Get over yourselves. Your opinion means nothing. It doesnt hold the truth. YES IT NVR DOES
hi Masriboy1985, Yes i know there are many verses in the Old Testament that says people should be put to death cause of sertain rules that doesnt mean God is not love God is also just and had maid an convenant with the Israelites there where rules they had to follow and if they didnt there would be certain consequents God never brakes his promises the Israelites werent allowed to do that either.
''And besides, God knows better what we do not know. It may appear bad, but in reality it may not be'' what is the good that came out of it? i only see the bad, now we have billions of Christians besides if Allah saved Isa why did he have to put a look a like in on the cross?? Allah has made it very easy for Satan to keep people from the truth.. that is if you consider Islam the truth;) well i dont..
If your feelings ever hold any truth, Islam would not be widely accepted worldwide. If your feelings ever hold any truth, Islam would not be the fastest growing religion. If your feelings ever holds any truth, Islam would not be the largest practicing religion in the world. If your feelings ever hold any truth, Christians all over the world would not have converted to Islam out of their free will.
If your feelings ever hold any truth, atheism wouldn't have largely come from Christian household.
If your feelings ever hold any truth you would know Islam isnt the largest religion;)but heck muslims country have the highest birth RATE!! duh if a man can marry 4 wifes and haves 20 childrn &you should know that most converts convert for marriage and 89%!! leaves Islam within 3 years.. You know it takes a while before you really know what Islams about;) wich Christians become Atheism? and become muslims all over the world? sir are you making things up you mean the couple here on youtube lol.
Lies again. I hope your tongue gets what they deserved in the hereafter. Where did you get 89% converts leave Islam within 3 years?
And I'm sorry for not being clear enough, it also has the highest number of converts. While I'm not going to lie like you do, so I'll play safe by saying it has the highest number of converts in many western countries.
When I say Christians all over the world, I meant the number of countries in which Muslim exist and conversion occurs.
Lies? really you havent proven me otherwise;) show me where.. i use numbers that been investigated, unlike you who yapping a bunch of stuff without looking showing the statistics..i dont lie its a sin, unlike you who can lie(its called taqqiya) now its all a sudden western country's? i thought youve said all over the world? who's lieing? and again the number of converts dont mean a thing,read the bible its clear on how the end will come, so im not suprised if the numbers of Muslim will increase.
It also... Which part of english word you don't understand. It's the fastest growing religion in the world and have the largest converts in many western countries.
You haven't answer me where you get 89%? Where you get it liar?
I'm not surprised either, because QUran clearly said God's religion will win in the end.
I'm the least bit interested in reading bible that are full of human errors and contradiction. The world is neither 6000 years old nor Noah's(PBUH) flood affected the entire world.
your wrong the rise in numbers in Islam is mainly due to demographics, not conversions. you really need to do your homework! again i got myy number from here&wikiislam:)show me proof for your claims against the bible there NEVER was and NEVER will be,unlike the koran that states the world is flat lol,how can God's word be changed? the Koran states Allah words cant be chnged?read Sura 2:40-42, 126 136,285 3:3, 71,93; 4:47, 136; 5:47-51, 69, 71-72; 6:91 10:37, 94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11
in those verses, if you read them , allah says verify what you were given, and do not be the first to deny it. he also says do not take a mean price with my words( meaning , do not change what i have told you for money so that it fits your needs),
you would actually learn what it means before pasting blindly
@heyyat55 he got his numbers from islam hater websites, i have asked some of the haters about where they get numbers from and one of them replied to me with the link to the site and it is all jibberish stuff that only non muslims, mostly haters who do not bother to investigate the messages believe it because they want to.
it is simple, they are blinded by their hate that they will only believe what they want
Masriboy i havent got the numbers from haterssite i dont go there i have my Quran:)
And the verses meant that Allah's words cant be changed or ADDED to just like the verse you posted or at least he wouldnt ALLOWE that .. Anywayz God bless you and your right You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. Byeee
Your beloved prophet Isa never excited is all made up by your wannabe prophet pretender Mohammed read the Koran,Hadits&sunna of your Prophet youll see what man he was whit his sick desires, he will be judged to condemnation and all his followers wth him. Islam is a Anthichrist system who only wants to fight the Christians and Jews(God's people) &take over the world,when you bow down 5 times a day you aint worshipping the God of Abraham,Isaak and Jacob thats for SURE!
Antichrist system which condemn adultery, sex before marriage, stealing, fornicating, and donate to the poor? Right.
And let's not forget that the stats in terms of crime committed is against the Christian's world in any given year, both percentage wise and total figure.
You're are so obviously delusional and brainwashed, and part of it is your fault for failing to make use of your brain, assuming you have one in the first place.
Which country has the highest abortions? Hello! Wake up foo.
LOL Islam allows adultary in a new form, as a man you can marry 4 wifes and exchangse them how much you like, you can steal from the unbelievers fight them and take theire possesions, sex before marriage?? Havent youve heard of Muta in Islam? donate only to muslims, where were the Muslims when Haiti had a earthqueke, or when the tsunami striked Thailand,
Please name 1 Christian state?? just because its western and it talks about A God DOESNT make it Christian,im not the 1 who needs to wake up:)
This is why I embraced Islam. They do these Q and A sessions and they give beautiful answers, and they have textual proof, and it makes the most sense
You born again christians do not even read your own bible. I am shocked the stupidity and ignorance of so called born again christians in regards to their own bible. They do not read their own scriptures!! All they do is sit and watch American Idol or other TV trash. Sad
You born agains go to church every sun and sit in t shirts and blue jeans....listen to some music....then rush like hell to get to Cracker Barrel. You do not have ANY spiritual depth or life. Sad Sad Sad
We understand what sons mean and we understand what God mean He Is The Creator, having Neither Beginning Nor End, so to say 'Son of God' is self- contradictory? Why? Son received life from his father, he is dependent that make him a son, he has a beginning, in his mother's worm. GODis self-existing, He received life FROM NO ONE, He Is INDependent, that makes him A GOD. So whoever is a son is not God becuz a son is dependent, whoever is A God has to be no one's son becuz God Is Independent.
He is greater than you think, and the most great thing about Him is that He humbled Himslef into human body, that He can take our sins and die for us. This is GREAT GOD, not god that stay away from everything. The real POWER is to humble yourself even if you have power to revenge. And about birth of the Son of God, it wasn't here, here He just took human form, Son was part of God before the creation of the world. Before the universe.
We understand what sons mean and we understand what God mean He Is The Creator, having Neither Beginning Nor End, so to say 'Son of God' is self- contradictory? Why? Son received life from his father, he is dependent that make him a son, he has a beginning, in his mother's worm. He is self-existing, He received life FROM NO ONE, God is Independent, that makes him A GOD. So whoever is a son is not God becuz a son is dependent, whoever is A God has to be no one's son becuz God Is Independent.
i wish i was thare to tell tham off may jesus show tham ples dad show tham thay need to know al pray for yous and dont forget jesus loves u all and serena is 100000000% right
For it says, 1 Corinthians 13:2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Out of love God gave His Son, out of love, His blood has saved us, out of love, We proclaim His mercy and grace, out of love, we should care. We are called to be Christ like. Not to condemn but to justify. God be with you always =)
John 1:24 29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"
The Lamb who takes away the sins, Jesus does not runs nor hides.. Tempted by the Devil in the desert shows us that He Himself has been thru the ways of men and has stood His ground till the End. I'm touched by those who stood firm on faith. But do heed my plead.. Violence and hatred do not bring us near what we are put in this world for...
Also, Hell is a final destination told in Rev. for Satan and his angles not a place people go to now.. Jesus tells a parable about Lazarus and the rich man dieing and Lazarus went into Abrahams bosum (paradise) and the rich man went into Hadas not Hell. Paradise is the place we as believers goto be w/ Jesus awaiting the judgment for heaven and and Hades is aplace of torment unbelievers go awaiting the judgment to goto to hell.
thease two are liers and cons they are unclean pigs from hell they are devils islam is from the devil ,dont bleave one word they say they are evil evil liers ,jesus is GOD jesus is the only way into heaven , jesus did die he went too helll rose on the 3d day , they are liers liers evil pigs from hell
GODSjugment- show me Biblically that Jesus went to hell either of the days he was dead. Reason is he would be a liar because Jesus told the theft on the cross "today you will be with me in paradise" and second Jesus states that "Father in your hands I commit my spirit" Jesus never went to hell, thats what Bennie Hinn, Joel Osteen and the other faith teachers are teaching its not biblical. Also..
1. Does Jesus being called the Messiah and sinless does that mean He is God?
answers: transliteration of Hebrew word meaning "anoited one" that was translated into Greek as Christos. "Christ" or Messiah is a name that expresses the church's link w/Isreal thru the OT and the faith that sees JC as the bearer of salvation for the world. Anointed carries several senses in the OT. All have to do with installing a person...
in a way tha the person in an office in a way that the person will be regarded as accredited by Yahweh. You see this with Elisha 1Kings 19:16, Isrealite kings anointed Judg 9:8 Saul 1 Sam9-10; David 2 Sam2:4; 5:3 Solomom 1Kings 1:39.
Now this answers question 1 and 2. Jesus is the only sinless person, NO other prophet or person was sinless. Christianity believes in whats called "original sin" and that is the sin of Adam ..
and see Roms 5:12 as sin entered the world through one man...and in this way death came to all men... Why was Jesus born of a virgin, Jesus was born w/out sin that entered the world through Adam and passed on to his decendants as are all the prophets who came later were under that same sin which came from Adam. Confirmed in Luke 2:25-40 in the prophecies of Simeon and Anna. I can give multiple ..
verses on the verses that come with the description of the Messiah and what He was coming to do which makes him the Son of God. I Mark 14:61-64 the Jew priest knew what it meant to be called the Christ the Son of the Blessed One and this is why they react the way they do..not because Jesus was just claimg to be a good prophet.. can give more to Question 1 and 2 if need be, bt I will move to question 3 later today.
Lets begin by first understanding the relability of the Bible. The New Testament was originally written in the Greek between 50 and 100 ad. We dont have the originals autographs, but there are presently some 5000 Greek manuscripts that exist and as many as 25000 more copies which match. Scholars have compared the earliest written manuscripts with those centries later and found that the NT has been virtually unaltered..
Remember the accounts in the NT were recorded directly by eyewitnesses, or by those who were associated with them and in fact close contact with the events. The OT was officially confirmed with the finding of the Dead Sea scrolls which were found at Qumran in 1946, the text were found that were about 1000 years older than any previous and when compared w/ later text these writings proved to be virtually identical.
Why doesYusuf avoid answering what the scripture says. The Jews knew Jesus was crucificed. The information the your scholars are given is False and are leading you astray. The Council of Neiciah did not answer these questions and the Pauls writting were done before the gospels were written and Paul worked along side James and Peter. Please seek the truth. This is a Lie.
That can be debated actually. Paul traveled from Jerusalem to Rome, and during this period were most of his Gospel written. Till today, Scholars are argueing its relevance to St. James's teachings. While James remained mostly in Jerusalem. That's why we see today, The 3rd revelation, Koran, unto Mohamad (pbuh) is dominant in ME, where the True faith of Jesus (as), his practices, and preaching is kept.
Your information is missing alittle, doing a quick check. In Acts 15 at the Council at Jerusalem James leads the meeting inwhich Paul and Baranabus give a report of what conversion is happening among the Gentile well this is 50 Ad and James writting is in 49 AD. So we see a companionship between them all by here. Now JOhns Gospel is around 90ad inwhich all of Pauls writings were complete. Pauls trip to Rome..
to Rome was on his last Jounreny but you see during his third journey he goes to Jerusalem and he is again received warmly by the brothers of Jesus. Their is nothing within the scriptures that draws a person to believe that any of the apostles disagreed with any of Pauls writtings. When you look at the Christian canon history you see that even the early church fathers accepted Pauls writings as being divinly inpired by ...
God. The 1st canon of NT scripture was called the Maturation Canon (mispelled sorry) that was in 119ad I believe and they included Pauls writings also. Let me be clear Pauls is just an apostle or workman for Jesus as was Peter, John, James and the others. Peter is not any greater than any of the others he was just willing to be used by God. Please provide scriptures challenges statements Pauls said that dont match the other books..Thanks you. Peace be with you.
Ok , I'm not sure about this. There is a part when James called for the baptise of Paul to cleanse him after his journey for he has lifted what was actually prohibitied by God, such as, eating the meat of Swine. Isn't that true ?
lieberat-if you are talking about when Paul came to Jerusalem in Acts 21:17- and James and the elders addressed Paul him. Paul was not asked to get baptised, but because others from Asia had came before him and stated that Paul was teaching other Jews among the Gentiles to not follow the Moses's teaching (circumcision or follow the customs) which was incorrect and that decision had been decided in Act 15 also none of Pauls writings..
show him telling others to not follow the customes his writings tell that following the customs will not bring salvation, but salvation is freely given by God's gracious act. Now, James and the elders asked Paul to follow the Nazirite vow which was a purification vow see Numbers 6:1-23. Paul follwed it to not create anger and to show he was not teaching others not to follow the customes. Also you have ti remember that Paul..
I can't imagine u prayin' Jesus while thinkin' of him changin' diapers by his momy or go to toilet, come on be real,God doesn't need anybody and he is not like his creaturs.Did Jesus say Im God "no" but the so called "saint Paul" who wrote it many years after the death of Jesus.u people follow it emoltionnaly, use ur logic and intellect and find the God of jesus peace be upon him our beloved prophet, Quran is the word of God and we got millions proofs from science, history to maths.
When you talk about praying to Jesus while thinkin of him getting his diaper changed. Are you for real-didnt the same happen with Mohammad yet ur Quran calls Jesus the Messiah and sinless. Dude try reading John 14. You really dont know what ur talking about. John 1 tells that Jesus was God thats not Pauls writing. About Paul, his writing came in the 49-66ad in the middle of all the drama, but ..
Mohammand came in the 600 ad. hundreds of years later but you believe him. Please if you would like to discuss Biblicall truths please contact me, but stupid arguments are not getting us anywhere.
well im sorry if I ve provoked you, I don't use to attack others beleif so Im sorry again....anyway Im ready to make a freindly discussion with u, as Adam's son and my brother not a christian....what u say?
I don't think the Messiah and sinless means God, all prophets are sinles not only Jesus peace be upon him....okay let's take what u say, "jesus is god" any proofs?all I know is that I won't go beyond the first page in the bible to find contradiction,"God creat the day before the sun" I don't beleive God would say that....we muslim got proofs, pease go and check out the video of Ahmed Deedat against jimmy swaggart debat....or the banned bible by history channel on youtube....peace
Prophets are not sinless, they are human beings charged to carry God's message to humanity... What about the so called "satanic verses" in Qu'ran, where Muhammad fell into temptation and invented a few lines of the Qu'ran saying that the grace of three islamic goddess was a pleasant thing just to try to make an agreement with some pagan people who hated him because He was rejecting their tradition?
Well I studied the Hadith that you mentioned here is not authenticate enough. There is no proof because there is a disconnection between the people who narrated the Hadith. This is a valid reason to reject the Hadith as authenticate source according to Hadith scholars.
where did u bring that from ?first the bible is not the word of God it's ur so called "saint paul" words,We believe in The evangile of Jesus peace be upon him,but sorry praying 2 Gods at once without proofs doesn't make any sence,its the pure paganism, open ur mind if there were 2Gods or 3 as christians say,there would be 3wolrds or a big contradictive world cus everyone is going to creat.Imagine jesus peace be upon him our porphet and "Ur God" got a Papy and mamy lol
If u say your son of GOD i must either say you are a lier -and then disrespect you and your words. or say you are correct and respect you. If I say your greek translated and this is not what you actually claimed, I even disrespect you more. If I say another man took your bullet and THE HOLE POINT is that You should TAKE THE BULLET as a ransom, I undermine you additional.
Why did JESUS come to earth? And if Jesus had power to give lives, to take lives (a tree), all by his word, who is he then?
About Gen6,2.Your far off.Continue to read and you will see tht here is Genesis meeting the ancient greek mythology. Perhaps Troy and its ppl isnt just a myth. This story is of conduct wich was not ok.
exodus4,22 it methafor made by GOD. Isreal is his FIRST BORN as JESUS will COME FROM THERE, as all saviour will come from them, as Abraham comes from there. Indeed Israel is first born! But JESUS is SON of GOD. Why do you think JEsus was born in a virgin? and who would the fatehr be
Jesus was born in a virgin. No genes of ADAM there then. Jesus then born without sin. Death designed to deal with sin(-). Jesus show us the way threw death.
Kane & Abel gave sacrefise: Kane gave hard work, his own growings. Abal gave wht is the easiest animal to have-a sheep- nature provides it. GOD looked to ABEL. Why? Kane produced more Kane(-). Abel(-) came with something nature(God)provides(+). Death takes ABALs SIN, (Abel+-=0) Abel passes death.
A Christian when He dies, he passes death since JESUS is his lamb. This deal JESUS made at his Last supper, and Satan agreed upon it.
God wants you back. Satan got to send Jesus to death, in return GOD got humans back. Not all, cos then Satan will be terminated. But who then? Women and children? Old? 50%? No, only fair deal became "let those who belive it, shall be saved". very fair, very simple. Belived in what? Tht GOD sent his only SON to die for them. tht is love. What happens when(cont)
3. Wht happens when a muslim dies? If he deeds has been good the muslim might pass. if not he dont. who fix the muslim to heaven? the muslim does! he is KANE. by his own doings he makes path to heaven. Wake up!
Wht does a christian do to get to heaven? accept Jesus as saviour. Who do we thank? JESUS of course. Firts command: "You shall not have other GOD (worship) then I".
God made tht one EASY/natural for us. God is good.
Satan tries continuesly to pervert the image of GOD.
4. there is a line going all threw the bible, pointing at JESUS and He being the lamb. Suddenly 600 years later (or at year 666 years if you use the calendar of tht time: Julian Calendar-NUMBERS OF A MAN), God is suddenly changing all this? The chosen ppl is no longer chosen, the promise land is no longer promised, his Lamb is no longer the lamb?Yet he propheciesed of the coming of such a great deciver exact at this year!
Read the first sura spoken:("..I am the one who gave man knowledge")
Islam means submission. If a muslim dont care to visit mecca even if he lives near by, if he doesnt pray 4times aday even if he has all the time in the world, and when he finally pray its because he fear hell, then he is ok?Islam is a fearfactory then. Wich is exact how Satan tries to portrait GOD.
But you will not find GOD in Quran. Bible fortold us of Quran and did call him the great deciver.
GOD is consistent all threw the bible. No contradictions. Quarn truly undermine tht msg.
oo say word dat da Bible has no contradictions.. yur slow den.. i found enough mistakes in da Bible.. and give me da exact quote.. where it says by name Quran is a deceiver.. yur on rocks.. yur crazy.. yur stupid lol
666 number man=number of beast. Julian Calendar=Number of man, follow it to year 666 we find the EXACT year when firt PACT of AQUABA took place (when 12 men took ther oath to accosiate only mohammed with allahs word).
Islams own calendar is based upon some lunar nonsense wich HUMANs dont act upon.
JESUS is SON of GOD, JESUS CLAIMED THT.
Either respect him for it, or call him a liar for it. If you say anothre took his place, it doesn not change J`s claim
1.Year 621 is first pact of aqaba. That is year 666 in the JULIAN CALENDAR (wich is made up by NUMBERS of a MAN).
2.The beast is suppose to be strong but now by his own power (daniel), it shall have a feroucious face (GOD dont make faces like tht, but SATAN hates everyting with GOD, even his own face so he rater appeear without-muhammed). Black stone is said to be from space. Bible refers to angels as stars too. One wich came dark and was sent to earth (Satan). U worship towards satan.
3.Why u say pbuh to Jesus? U disrespect Jesus by claiming him a prophet and not son of GOD.
4. Muhammed according to muslims was not having 2 of his front teeth. He fought 26 battles. He slit throuth of those jews who had challanged him intelectual at early stages. He married a 6 year old. and did her at 9. sick even by that times standard, so even he had to wait. But wors of all: he perverted the image of GOD. He decived mankind. No other false prophet can ever appear and compete with this.
3.You cant say you respect someone by saying that what they claim was not right.
If someone else died or even if JEsus wasnt killed but survice (even if its like taking away the cornerstone of the bible), it wont change the fact that REASON for it was the CLAIMS Made BY JESUS AS SON OF GOD.
I got no hatred in my heart. But if I say your a christian and I respect your claim as Jesus as son of God, you would get pissed of, as no such thing was ever said by you. dont fake history.Respect him
Aquaba was in 621. That is when 12 men came infront of Muhammed and took the first oath of accosiating him and only him with word of Allah. Birht of a new religion.
Islam calendar starts at 622 based upon moonlocation. GOD give a shit about when satan starts his deciving calendar. GOD cares aobut fact. WIKI: "According to Islamic tradition, the Stone fell from Heaven to show Adam and Eve where to build an altar and offer a sacrifice to God". Quran forfills the SATAN in the bible. Odd u think?
5.I dont dispute muha8mmed encountered a spirit. But was it really GOD? Cos accorign to bible SATAN would say: I AM GOD (But since he hates GOD he might take a different name:Allah). Satan is also MASTER of deluting. If he lies so you fall, he takes the bill. So he tries to trick you to take the wrong conclusions(Quran: "I am the one who gave mankind knowledge". Bible: satan gave knowledge to mankind, making us unthrustworty in eyes of the lord).
I hope you have a daughter who is get married when shes 6, sais nice things about her husband, and gets laid when she is 9. With some dude who calls himself a prophet. We can talk about how OK muhammed was then.
Im not bothering to comment on how Muhammed LIVED his life. I think its even too shamful to comment on. Im repulsed that a man with such actions and characters as him, you even compare him to any of the ppl in the bible.
Don't be foolish, a 9 year old girl on those days with Arabic race is easyly compared with today's fully grown up woman. try to think about your own salvasion which can be done only through God, belive him and ask him to guid you and to show you the right path, and try not to insult those beautiful people...what if you were wrong?!!!
even if there was a small chance that you are wrong how can you even raise your head in front of God???? it would be embaresing, no?!!!
I felt the Holy spirit. I dont care if muslim say its no such thing as trinity. I felt it. Litterly. Like a dove- Just like JESUS experienced it too. I though it all was suppose to e metaphore. But its not.
The GOD I met is not an angry punishing GOD. Satan takes ppl search for GOD and slowly pervert and alternate the image of GOD, luring humans away from GOD, beliving GOD is something GOD is not! GOD showed me that. And showed me to tell it to all people.
What about the others like Joseph Smith who claim they had experiences with God.
You see God clearly says in his first commandment DO NOT TAKE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!
Jesus was clearly not the Father because he prayed to him, The Bible calls Jesus a mediator between man and God, this is in complete disagreement with the first commandment
And it isn't just Muslims who reject the Trinity but many Christians today, Trinity is a Nicean concept, The word itself is no where in the Bible
Muslim: "Salamalecou, menshalla, gestures, respect of this, of that, but no one truly respect GOD. All muslim does is steal respect of one another.
Test: Pick "a god" to worship, anything. It could be a car, 100 naked women in your flat, a stone, wht ever. If someone on your way home took a bullet for you so he died, no matter wht god you have, you would have to thank tht man too. GOD made it easy to worship GOD. HE took the bullet. (Cont.1)
God did make it easy for me to worship Him, HE MADE ME,
And Again God doesn't die, and He certainly doesn't have to take a bullet for you in order to forgive your sins, He knows the heart and knows if you are truly repenting.
No offense but the other argument you posted had worse English than these and made no sense, not making fun or anything, it just didn't make sense.
I see you struggle with wht we christian has come to call trinity.
GOD created water-
Water comes as liquid, as clouds, or as rock solid ice. So does GOD, JESUS, Holy spirit. Its all part of the same, just as a box has length, width, and hight.
A soldier is given every power and will of its president to do the presidents will. Therfor the soldier and president is as one, not one word of president will be done unless its given to the soldier. And the holy spirit in this? Its real. True
Ok but the President and the soldier are still two different people, you can't go to a Soldier and call him Mr President, of course not and they certainly don't make the same money, and they certainly don't get the same honor....Thus they are two different people....
Is Jesus the Father??? If not then you must admit you are worshiping two different People, maybe at the same time, but still two distinct Persons, and that is not Monotheism, it is a Pantheon.
Father, son and holy Ghost is ONE. Like 1x1x1 is one.
When a chritian die, its faith in JESUS as SON of GOD, and tht He dying on cross for my sins tht will save me. So I thank GOD for GOD giving me a way to enter back into society with Him. ths wht it takes.
When u do wht allah has asked its all up to you then. Yet you thank allah for it nowing it is you and wht luck tht came your way tht gave you the ticket. Chritians we CANT make it no matter wht. Were all siners so GOD make us the way.
"When u do wht allah has asked its all up to you then"
Actually the same can be said of Christianity, It takes faith and good works in your religion also, it says so in James, it takes faith and living a righteous life the best you can
God knows the intentions of the Heart.
It is up to you to obey God and believe in Him.
We simply thank Him for being merciful enough to send us guidance on how to get there
- Satan gave mankind knowledge in the bible, and first recite muhammed did was"... recite for I am teh one who gave mankind knowledge".
- GOD is everywhere, satan is not, muslims must face mekka.
- God said "deciver shall have a feroucious face" (contradicts doesnt it-when GOD creator is all LOVE?), No. only feroucies face is the one who destroys his own face, cos he hates everthing GOD has given to him. Satan will appear faceless. See "redhood and the wolf"
-The Bible said my children are DEAD because of lack of knowledge
-And in the Bible God also commanded people to make pilgrimage to his temple and pray towards it in Jerusalem, this is still done by Jews today, and was done by early Muslims until God directed Muhammad(AS) to pray towards Mecca, so this again is Biblical.
bible speaks of 3 death, 1 when we became dead from GOD, 1 when we litterly die, and 1 if you hit etarnal death. 3death in 1.
Check out this: Deciver shall have the number of 666, wich is also "a mans number".
If we use JULIAN calendar (made by Ceacar,lasted for 1600 years), and follow his calendar to year 666, we find the first pact of aquaba(621AD). Now, new testament means NEW PACT. And is the FINAL pact, and fits with whole bible. Why GOD would appear at a time wich he warns us of?
On the "666" thing actually that is a mistranslation and the number is more along the lines of "616".
And no the New Testament does not fit the rest of the Bible, in Matthew his geneology is full of errors, and he also Misquotes Isaiah. This is not to say the Gospel given to Jesus not from God. But where is the document written by Jesus the is titled Gospel. We don't have it, in fact we don't even have the originals of the cannonized texts of the new testament.
I can tell you this a bout the "trinity" not many ppl have a clue about it. But think of it as water, ice, and steam. Its all the same, but it appears different.
When I baptized I did so because JESUS said so, (i didnt read WHY he said so), but very odd -after couple of days, just like a dove - the holy spirit came to me. I did not think such thing would happen, I did not know JESUS got the holy spirit too like a dov, after he baptized. And a dove is quite fitting, cos it takes off if harsh.
Brother tnx for your knoledg but could u please not say that god isin heaven, becouse god is not in his creation nor can he b controlled by it. keep up the good work ^^
You don't need to correct the Sheik sweety! He meant God is up there but we don't know where! He didn't say that he was in the heavens or in the clouds! So please before correcting someone correct yourself first! Jazzakulla!
ehh, JESUS was a jew. He spoke hebrew. When Jesus died on the cross he said "ELI ELI...". Wht was common knowledge back then was that HE said this cos he was quoting a verse in the book of Solomon.
If you read tht text (its written some 500bc, you will see that the text is about JESUS crusifixion, and how they devided his cloth. He said it so we could understand. Its just yet another forfilling of a prophecy, confirming an anzient text. But muslims use this quote out of its context, to dis HIM
Indeed Jesus was a Jew, but in his time Hebrew was a dead language used only in the Temple and Synagoque, Aramaic was the language of those people, so yes when reading scripture he would have used Hebrew, but talking to people in the street would have spoke Aramaic, plz do some more research
I find it odd you quote a verse where He shouts God had forsaken him, so God forsook himself? Sounds confusing, I thought God didn't author confusion? LoL
1.All I did was a quick google, and the answer I got was tht science is inconclusive about his language. Maby I shoudl google some more.
trinity, u can look as a tree with brances. They are connected, they are part of the same. One dont go without the otehr. I admit its difficult, but tht doesnt make it wrong.
But who is JESUS father, if He was born in a virign? Cos we all have one.
And since there is no genes of ADAM involved, its no SIN in JESUS as well. Satan wanted Him then.dead
2. Humans are created worshippers, we are influenced by higher spirits no matter what. When we became sinners, GOD had to trash us, but we are loved, so he let us live under Satan. When Jesus came, a deal was made- Satan gets to kill JESUS, and GOD gets humans back. Wich humans? All? No, satan has no hostage then. 50%? wich one? all are sinners. Those who belive in it! Belive what? Beive tht JESUS sent do die for his Sins. Belive it and u be saved. thts it. The deal is made in BELIVE. no facts.
"When Jesus came, a deal was made- Satan gets to kill JESUS, and GOD gets humans back."
Brother why would God ever give us to Satan?! and if he wanted us back he certainly would NOT HAVE TO MAKE A DEAL WITH SATAN TO GET US BACK!!!!!
I'm not sure where this theology of God being so weak that he had to make a deal with Satan to allow us to be able to go to heaven. God never lost control!!!!
When a muslim die, its all up to how the muslim conducted his life on earth wich will determine his access into heaven. The muslim must thank HIMSELF. Its the muslim who make his way to heaven.
When I die, I thank JESUS for making my path to heaven, as JESUS is GOD, but also my lamb.
"When a muslim die, its all up to how the muslim conducted his life on earth wich will determine his access into heaven. The muslim must thank HIMSELF"
No it takes two things, Faith in Allah, and doing what he asked, We would thank Allah for having mercy enough to give us guidance on how to get to Heaven
You must say the same because in Christianity, it takes faith and good works as well, because as it says in the book of James one without the other is DEAD.
Is GOD the same always? I belive so. The stories of the bible connects, all up to JESUS, Muhammed connect only as the deciver.
KANE & Abel both sinners (negatives) gave sacrefise to GOD. Kane gave of his earth growins. thts HARD work. Abel gave a lamb, thts NO work.
KANE(-) gave more of Kane(-), but Abel(-) gave a lamb provided by GOD(+). Death wich is designed to take life and SIN(-), then takes the lamb(+) and ABEL attach his SIN (-), wich maked Abel pass over Death. Whats your lamb?
alaho akbar masha alah
bm20008 1 month ago
This questioner doesnt even understand his own question. Its a non question actually. Listen up carefully from both speakers.
alnamuz 5 months ago
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MegaBoxer77 5 months ago
Jesus was quoting Psalm 21 when he asked "Why have You forsaken Me?" In Habakkuk it tells us that God is too pure to look upon evil. So it is possible that God turned away for the moment that our sins were upon the cross. I know that's not proof but it's something to think about.
fintalily 6 months ago
didn't really answer the question
superoriginalname 9 months ago
one of my friend had showed me this video , the whole muslim thing seems interesting. But it makes no sense to me. Jesus died for us, for our sins. He was killed and he was crucified,Jesus knew what his mission was.. He knew what he was getting into and he had accepted it, to save us. by the way , when the Lord asked " My God, My God why have you forsaken me?" clearly that is NOT a blasphemy, he came down to earth as a human. I could go on. but thats all im allowed to write :( .God loves you! (:
smile2611 10 months ago
@smile2611 Hello smile, this is one of the things that led me to leaving Christianity many years ago, before I even knew about the bible had been corrupted. How does one part of the trinity "who knew his mission" and fate, suddenly ask why he had been forsaken by the father (who is also him)?
I asked alot of questions like this to my brothers, when it got hard or impossible for them to answer, the old phrase gets drawn out "you just have to have faith"
Salam. (BTW I'm not a Muslim..... yet ;))
mikkars250 9 months ago
@mikkars250 Along his journey he knew God was with him the whole time & he thought when it came to the cross God would still be with him, he was but because he took all our burden God had to distant himself for him. Think of it as a paper u split the paper in half now you have two pieces of paper but they are one. Faith is a huge part of it but prayer is what will answer your question. My journey with Christ he has revealed everything to me. You will find ur answers as you get closer to Christ.
smile2611 8 months ago
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darklordxxx 1 year ago
This is an honest inquiry:
I'm a Catholic. I've studied and researched, in great depth, to satiate my profound curiousity of whether or not I belong to the true Christian faith. I asked myself: "Why am I not Orthodox? Why am I not Protestant?"
Then I thought: "Well, why am I even a Christian?" lol
Then I asked myself "Well, why am I not a Muslim?" LOL
So, I'm looking for a *well spoken* Muslim to help teach me about Islam. Dare I say it, even revert. I don't know, yet.
Thank you.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86
Quran speaks
tariqueaziz100 6 months ago
I love the way how Yusuf Estes gently told the interrogative one, who interrupted, "Hold on, okay.. You ask your question and I understood your question, and I'm giving you an answer. Take some time, listen up".
That's how every muslim should act like, and not furious and disorderly.
MerionxD 1 year ago
In the book of Numbers 23:19 it says...... "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill''?
macktheknife888 1 year ago
lol. Sheikh Yusuf lost his patience at this guy's idiocy! For the love of God, Jesus's followers knew that he wasn't crucified. There was no deception! The Qu'ran just confirmed that fact
h2dude69 1 year ago
I love islam :) Ash hado an La elaha Ella Allah ... Wa ash hado Anna Mohammadan Rasol Allah <--- Read that SAY IT PLZ its the shahada <3
MrS0o0N 1 year ago 2
Yusuf Estes is very knowledgeable MashaAllah.
sarahmaa1 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of the man who answered the last question?
hunnybunnyrulz 1 year ago
@hunnybunnyrulz Bilal Phillips
MeTaLiXe 1 year ago
@MeTaLiXe thank you
hunnybunnyrulz 1 year ago
IslamIsTheTruth99 1 year ago
ok, look if you know jesus was saved raised up by god, remember jesus said that he is the gate and we are the sheep, noone can come to the father but through him, when phillip said show us the father thats all we ask, jesus said how long have you been with me and you say show us the father? if jesus decieved us by saying he is the only way to heavon, then why would god raise up a liar?
benjaminredbull21 1 year ago
^_^
snipermoody 1 year ago
this guys right up there with bush at deflecting questions.
bishoyhamdy 1 year ago
@bishoyhamdy Has you read the books he suggested?
abdulrasyeed 1 year ago
Mr Yousuf Estes did neither understand the question, nor did he answer it. The question is still valid: Why should God let suffer innocent people to save his dears? The whole Muslim understanding of the crucifixion is incorrect! It is very unlikely that hundreds of Jews caught the wrong person and nobody knows it. It is also a fairytale that God saved Jesus by raising him to the 3rd heaven. Did the Creator of universe, knower of past and future not find a natural way to save his dear Prophet?
Nomiboy19 1 year ago
@Nomiboy19 the whole concept of god dieing and committing suicide for is is PAGAN Islam makes it clear and history that only evil doers were kept on a cross
God caused Jesus in a state like sleep and death but he was still alive and God raised him to the skies in order to save him and the Quran clearly says that when Gabriel visited Mary he told her that her son will speak at bundle and old age so this is a point showing the return or christ was meant to be ..
Maryam0100 1 year ago
@Maryam0100
... into Islam, when this religion spread very fast.
If it was true that God saved Jesus in this strange way, than why did he not save the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) by raising into heaven, when he was wounded heavily, lost two teeth and was in danger of life? Why special treatment for Jesus?
The Reality about Jesus could only be clarified by the second coming of Jesus (methaporically, not literally). His Holiness said that God indeed saved his Prophet: /watch?v=vz2nL-8CpSM
Nomiboy19 1 year ago
It is because,
ALLAH (S.W.T.) sent Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) an example for mankind, so that is why the Prophet (S.A.W.) was just a simple man, but also the best of all men
and when the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was wounded a lot of blood came from him, and the angel Jibrael (Gabriel) even asked if he would like to seek revenge,
but instead the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) ask ALLAH (S.WT.) to forgave them for they know not of what they do
Ali Khilji
khiljiasad 1 year ago
@khiljiasad Wow. Amazing, kind person. I love Muhammad, I am enjoying learning about him.
mikkars250 9 months ago 2
@Nomiboy19 and God is smarter than 100 jewish people .. u need to strengthen your faith and and learn Islam before you say something about it because we all know you know nothing about it but take a chance to play games and thats considered a sin sir .. God raised Jesus because Jesus was meant to be the Messiah for the whole world but not 2000 years ago ... 2000 years ago he was sent with the gospel and for his people and in future he will come to follow the Islamic Law and be for all people
Maryam0100 1 year ago
@Maryam0100
... it sounds much more like an act of desperation to rise up Jesus alive in the last moment, after all other attempts to save him failed. A perfect God does not need to make exceptions or rather break his own-made laws. But He prepares everything from the outset and then uses the laws to achieve his aims. That is my faith in Allah, that he is perfect. The prevailing concept of Muslims, that Jesus was risen alive into heaven, derives from Christianity and found its way ...
Nomiboy19 1 year ago
@Nomiboy19 the concept of dieing for sin is unorthodox because never in the Torah does God say anything about this belief instead god makes is a law to follow the commandment or else people will be punished so did YOUR GOD change his mind about salvation all of a sudden? and btw ascension to heavan is natural we all will have that one day ...? u need to strengthen your faith dude because if u say god send a worldwide flood then why cant he trick a bunch of idiots and save the Messiah
Maryam0100 1 year ago
@Maryam0100
...and He knows the past and future, and indeed he exists beyond the spheres of time and space. Today we know that there are many more dimensions and that time and space are no constants (see Theory of Relativity).
So after considering all this, how can one with common-sense accuse our Lord and Creator to have taken such a cheap action to save Jesus from the hands of a few hundred Jews? Was He not all-knowing and the best planner? Did he not know the past and future? ...
Nomiboy19 1 year ago
@Nomiboy19 you got a poor excuse and weak source and no idea about Islam nor do u have any faith in God if he created Mankind a one of a kind creature from DIRT ,why is it hard for him to lift a man to the heavans like he'll do to our souls .. basic and simple but the Pagan beliefs of Mithraism and Osirisism which stated god sent his son to die for humanity and kill the evil bull .. that Idea was stolen by Paul and he based it on early christianity and thats when the trinity,crucifixtion came
Maryam0100 1 year ago
@Maryam0100
I am talking about contemporary Islamic conception about Jesus, not about the origin of Christian conception. We live in a modern era, and we have a completely new understanding of universe, space and time. To understand my point you first have to consider the incredible size and age of the universe and the quasi perfection of creation. And now imagine that this God, who btw is claiming to be perfect, all-knowing, and the best planner. ...
Nomiboy19 1 year ago
@serasra........Islam doesn't allow an individual to have a 2nd wife unless u have the consent of your 1st wife or if ur 1st wife is dead or divorced........and Islam never teaches u donate to muslims onlee........serasrs.....there is a saying.....'u can drag a horse to the water ....but u cant make him dreenk it.".......the case is same wid u........i personalee believe u need to consult a psychiatrist.........u r not being logical.......FREAK
MRshaharier 1 year ago
If he was a Priest he would know what the words mean when Jesus said My god why have you forsaken me' Jesus was quoting last words of a Psalm to fullfil it, how is it Yusef dont know that? i know it and im not a priest?? and he isnt answering the question cirkeling around it, the person asked why did Allah deceive all those people? And Yusef is wrong people at that time believed it was Jesus th quran even teachess that!! even Mary didnt see the difference so whos to blame we have Christians??
serasra 2 years ago
Actually, God can do what he want. Who are we to say that God must follow the same morality concept that we imposed on ourselves.
And besides, God knows better what we do not know. It may appear bad, but in reality it may not be, as the people will never accept Islam in the first place.
It's like the feeling of pain. It may appear bad for us, at first, but in reality it's a self protection mechanism, that we may avoid ourselves from harm.
Arrogance has no place with thy Lord. God knows better
heyyat55 2 years ago
Yes God can do what he wants, am i saying otherwise? im saying The God of the Bible is Holy,your Allah isnt he plots,lies and deceives that cant be Holy, Our God has no darkness in him he dont needs to lie or deceive it goes against his nature, Thats why we have satan ''Who are we to say that God must follow the same morality concept that we imposed on ourselves'' God sets the morality standard he teaches us how we should be,we art to be Godlike and God is love so we must be loving to every1
serasra 2 years ago
And Islam is not the true religion because... your feelings says so? Or your biased wrong informed opinions?
Here's the thing. If you want to decide if Islam or Christianity is the true religion, instead of using your insignificant feelings to decide, why don't you use evidences?
That's more logical. I'm getting sick of Christians using their feelings as basis for arguments. We don't care how you feel! Get over yourselves. Your opinion means nothing. It doesnt hold the truth. YES IT NVR DOES
heyyat55 2 years ago
@serasra you say the god in the bible is holy and all that love is all false, things you just hear over and over
but here is a verse from the bible:
2nd Chronicles Chapter 15
That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
i can go on and on and on with many examples
but there is a simple soultion that the quran gives us to that problem
quran 109:6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.
Masriboy1985 2 years ago
hi Masriboy1985, Yes i know there are many verses in the Old Testament that says people should be put to death cause of sertain rules that doesnt mean God is not love God is also just and had maid an convenant with the Israelites there where rules they had to follow and if they didnt there would be certain consequents God never brakes his promises the Israelites werent allowed to do that either.
serasra 2 years ago
''And besides, God knows better what we do not know. It may appear bad, but in reality it may not be'' what is the good that came out of it? i only see the bad, now we have billions of Christians besides if Allah saved Isa why did he have to put a look a like in on the cross?? Allah has made it very easy for Satan to keep people from the truth.. that is if you consider Islam the truth;) well i dont..
Peace.
serasra 2 years ago
If your feelings ever hold any truth, Islam would not be widely accepted worldwide. If your feelings ever hold any truth, Islam would not be the fastest growing religion. If your feelings ever holds any truth, Islam would not be the largest practicing religion in the world. If your feelings ever hold any truth, Christians all over the world would not have converted to Islam out of their free will.
If your feelings ever hold any truth, atheism wouldn't have largely come from Christian household.
heyyat55 2 years ago
If your feelings ever hold any truth you would know Islam isnt the largest religion;)but heck muslims country have the highest birth RATE!! duh if a man can marry 4 wifes and haves 20 childrn &you should know that most converts convert for marriage and 89%!! leaves Islam within 3 years.. You know it takes a while before you really know what Islams about;) wich Christians become Atheism? and become muslims all over the world? sir are you making things up you mean the couple here on youtube lol.
serasra 2 years ago
Lies again. I hope your tongue gets what they deserved in the hereafter. Where did you get 89% converts leave Islam within 3 years?
And I'm sorry for not being clear enough, it also has the highest number of converts. While I'm not going to lie like you do, so I'll play safe by saying it has the highest number of converts in many western countries.
When I say Christians all over the world, I meant the number of countries in which Muslim exist and conversion occurs.
heyyat55 2 years ago
Lies? really you havent proven me otherwise;) show me where.. i use numbers that been investigated, unlike you who yapping a bunch of stuff without looking showing the statistics..i dont lie its a sin, unlike you who can lie(its called taqqiya) now its all a sudden western country's? i thought youve said all over the world? who's lieing? and again the number of converts dont mean a thing,read the bible its clear on how the end will come, so im not suprised if the numbers of Muslim will increase.
serasra 2 years ago
It also... Which part of english word you don't understand. It's the fastest growing religion in the world and have the largest converts in many western countries.
You haven't answer me where you get 89%? Where you get it liar?
I'm not surprised either, because QUran clearly said God's religion will win in the end.
I'm the least bit interested in reading bible that are full of human errors and contradiction. The world is neither 6000 years old nor Noah's(PBUH) flood affected the entire world.
heyyat55 2 years ago
your wrong the rise in numbers in Islam is mainly due to demographics, not conversions. you really need to do your homework! again i got myy number from here&wikiislam:)show me proof for your claims against the bible there NEVER was and NEVER will be,unlike the koran that states the world is flat lol,how can God's word be changed? the Koran states Allah words cant be chnged?read Sura 2:40-42, 126 136,285 3:3, 71,93; 4:47, 136; 5:47-51, 69, 71-72; 6:91 10:37, 94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11
serasra 2 years ago
@serasra your problem is that you goto haters websites , u copy/paste without even checking what you are pasting
about allah's words can be changed
you pased it cant be changed in 2:40-2:42
in those verses, if you read them , allah says verify what you were given, and do not be the first to deny it. he also says do not take a mean price with my words( meaning , do not change what i have told you for money so that it fits your needs),
you would actually learn what it means before pasting blindly
Masriboy1985 2 years ago
@heyyat55 he got his numbers from islam hater websites, i have asked some of the haters about where they get numbers from and one of them replied to me with the link to the site and it is all jibberish stuff that only non muslims, mostly haters who do not bother to investigate the messages believe it because they want to.
it is simple, they are blinded by their hate that they will only believe what they want
such people you ignore, and don't bother
it is allah who guides, not us
Masriboy1985 2 years ago
Thanks for the reminder brother. I just cant help it sometimes. I guess in a way I did it for myself as I need some stress release from time to time.
I enjoy debating with learned people, though obviously most of them are not.
Assalamualaikum.
heyyat55 2 years ago
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Masriboy i havent got the numbers from haterssite i dont go there i have my Quran:)
And the verses meant that Allah's words cant be changed or ADDED to just like the verse you posted or at least he wouldnt ALLOWE that .. Anywayz God bless you and your right You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. Byeee
serasra 2 years ago
@serasra
109:1] Say: O unbelievers!
[Shakir 109:2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[Shakir 109:3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[Shakir 109:4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[Shakir 109:5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[Shakir 109:6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.
Masriboy1985 2 years ago
Please stop your lies. You're shaming my beloved prophet Jesus(PBUH) by claiming you follow his teaching.
heyyat55 2 years ago
Your beloved prophet Isa never excited is all made up by your wannabe prophet pretender Mohammed read the Koran,Hadits&sunna of your Prophet youll see what man he was whit his sick desires, he will be judged to condemnation and all his followers wth him. Islam is a Anthichrist system who only wants to fight the Christians and Jews(God's people) &take over the world,when you bow down 5 times a day you aint worshipping the God of Abraham,Isaak and Jacob thats for SURE!
Get to know the lord Jesus.
serasra 2 years ago
Antichrist system which condemn adultery, sex before marriage, stealing, fornicating, and donate to the poor? Right.
And let's not forget that the stats in terms of crime committed is against the Christian's world in any given year, both percentage wise and total figure.
You're are so obviously delusional and brainwashed, and part of it is your fault for failing to make use of your brain, assuming you have one in the first place.
Which country has the highest abortions? Hello! Wake up foo.
heyyat55 2 years ago
LOL Islam allows adultary in a new form, as a man you can marry 4 wifes and exchangse them how much you like, you can steal from the unbelievers fight them and take theire possesions, sex before marriage?? Havent youve heard of Muta in Islam? donate only to muslims, where were the Muslims when Haiti had a earthqueke, or when the tsunami striked Thailand,
Please name 1 Christian state?? just because its western and it talks about A God DOESNT make it Christian,im not the 1 who needs to wake up:)
serasra 2 years ago
This is why I embraced Islam. They do these Q and A sessions and they give beautiful answers, and they have textual proof, and it makes the most sense
TheMrpalid 2 years ago 24
@TheMrpalid welcome dear brother
SuperVegeto3 1 year ago
the earliest christian text (not the bible) sais jesus was a prophet. and people of the time called him a prophet.
bobi2020 2 years ago 4
show me this text?
Because the earliest texts, no matter gnoistic, heretic, or dogmatic says Jesus is GOD. Part of Allah.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago 2
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You born again christians do not even read your own bible. I am shocked the stupidity and ignorance of so called born again christians in regards to their own bible. They do not read their own scriptures!! All they do is sit and watch American Idol or other TV trash. Sad
You born agains go to church every sun and sit in t shirts and blue jeans....listen to some music....then rush like hell to get to Cracker Barrel. You do not have ANY spiritual depth or life. Sad Sad Sad
Read the KORAN!!!
HanniYaudouh 2 years ago
Islam is the best =) !
God Knows best !
maldbai 2 years ago 20
LOL you are funny deluded friend...
I bet you talk to yourself at home and in public LOL
vascoa 2 years ago
wow.. who thinks that they gave the man a real answer??? they jumped all over the place...
kelvinocd21 2 years ago
We understand what sons mean and we understand what God mean He Is The Creator, having Neither Beginning Nor End, so to say 'Son of God' is self- contradictory? Why? Son received life from his father, he is dependent that make him a son, he has a beginning, in his mother's worm. GODis self-existing, He received life FROM NO ONE, He Is INDependent, that makes him A GOD. So whoever is a son is not God becuz a son is dependent, whoever is A God has to be no one's son becuz God Is Independent.
Kat4luv 2 years ago
You don't understand who is God.
He is greater than you think, and the most great thing about Him is that He humbled Himslef into human body, that He can take our sins and die for us. This is GREAT GOD, not god that stay away from everything. The real POWER is to humble yourself even if you have power to revenge. And about birth of the Son of God, it wasn't here, here He just took human form, Son was part of God before the creation of the world. Before the universe.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
We understand what sons mean and we understand what God mean He Is The Creator, having Neither Beginning Nor End, so to say 'Son of God' is self- contradictory? Why? Son received life from his father, he is dependent that make him a son, he has a beginning, in his mother's worm. He is self-existing, He received life FROM NO ONE, God is Independent, that makes him A GOD. So whoever is a son is not God becuz a son is dependent, whoever is A God has to be no one's son becuz God Is Independent.
Kat4luv 2 years ago 2
muslim no lave cross Christian
m15a5 2 years ago
i wish i was thare to tell tham off may jesus show tham ples dad show tham thay need to know al pray for yous and dont forget jesus loves u all and serena is 100000000% right
samnallisa 2 years ago
For it says, 1 Corinthians 13:2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Out of love God gave His Son, out of love, His blood has saved us, out of love, We proclaim His mercy and grace, out of love, we should care. We are called to be Christ like. Not to condemn but to justify. God be with you always =)
SerenaRVP11 2 years ago
John 1:24 29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"
The Lamb who takes away the sins, Jesus does not runs nor hides.. Tempted by the Devil in the desert shows us that He Himself has been thru the ways of men and has stood His ground till the End. I'm touched by those who stood firm on faith. But do heed my plead.. Violence and hatred do not bring us near what we are put in this world for...
SerenaRVP11 2 years ago
Also, Hell is a final destination told in Rev. for Satan and his angles not a place people go to now.. Jesus tells a parable about Lazarus and the rich man dieing and Lazarus went into Abrahams bosum (paradise) and the rich man went into Hadas not Hell. Paradise is the place we as believers goto be w/ Jesus awaiting the judgment for heaven and and Hades is aplace of torment unbelievers go awaiting the judgment to goto to hell.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
thease two are liers and cons they are unclean pigs from hell they are devils islam is from the devil ,dont bleave one word they say they are evil evil liers ,jesus is GOD jesus is the only way into heaven , jesus did die he went too helll rose on the 3d day , they are liers liers evil pigs from hell
GODSjudgment 3 years ago
GODSjugment- show me Biblically that Jesus went to hell either of the days he was dead. Reason is he would be a liar because Jesus told the theft on the cross "today you will be with me in paradise" and second Jesus states that "Father in your hands I commit my spirit" Jesus never went to hell, thats what Bennie Hinn, Joel Osteen and the other faith teachers are teaching its not biblical. Also..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
jesus is god??wow talk about lost.
NycMilitantMuslim 2 years ago 3
1. Does Jesus being called the Messiah and sinless does that mean He is God?
answers: transliteration of Hebrew word meaning "anoited one" that was translated into Greek as Christos. "Christ" or Messiah is a name that expresses the church's link w/Isreal thru the OT and the faith that sees JC as the bearer of salvation for the world. Anointed carries several senses in the OT. All have to do with installing a person...
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
in a way tha the person in an office in a way that the person will be regarded as accredited by Yahweh. You see this with Elisha 1Kings 19:16, Isrealite kings anointed Judg 9:8 Saul 1 Sam9-10; David 2 Sam2:4; 5:3 Solomom 1Kings 1:39.
Now this answers question 1 and 2. Jesus is the only sinless person, NO other prophet or person was sinless. Christianity believes in whats called "original sin" and that is the sin of Adam ..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
and see Roms 5:12 as sin entered the world through one man...and in this way death came to all men... Why was Jesus born of a virgin, Jesus was born w/out sin that entered the world through Adam and passed on to his decendants as are all the prophets who came later were under that same sin which came from Adam. Confirmed in Luke 2:25-40 in the prophecies of Simeon and Anna. I can give multiple ..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
verses on the verses that come with the description of the Messiah and what He was coming to do which makes him the Son of God. I Mark 14:61-64 the Jew priest knew what it meant to be called the Christ the Son of the Blessed One and this is why they react the way they do..not because Jesus was just claimg to be a good prophet.. can give more to Question 1 and 2 if need be, bt I will move to question 3 later today.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
Lets begin by first understanding the relability of the Bible. The New Testament was originally written in the Greek between 50 and 100 ad. We dont have the originals autographs, but there are presently some 5000 Greek manuscripts that exist and as many as 25000 more copies which match. Scholars have compared the earliest written manuscripts with those centries later and found that the NT has been virtually unaltered..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
Remember the accounts in the NT were recorded directly by eyewitnesses, or by those who were associated with them and in fact close contact with the events. The OT was officially confirmed with the finding of the Dead Sea scrolls which were found at Qumran in 1946, the text were found that were about 1000 years older than any previous and when compared w/ later text these writings proved to be virtually identical.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
I will attempt to answer the questions you asked Biblically and not from my mere opinion.The questions you asked are:
1. Jesus being called the Messiah and sinless does not mean He is God?
2. All the prophets are sinless, not just Jesus right?
3. What proof is there that Jesus is God?
4. How did God create the day before the sun?
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
good answer
chafikooo81 3 years ago
Why doesYusuf avoid answering what the scripture says. The Jews knew Jesus was crucificed. The information the your scholars are given is False and are leading you astray. The Council of Neiciah did not answer these questions and the Pauls writting were done before the gospels were written and Paul worked along side James and Peter. Please seek the truth. This is a Lie.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
That can be debated actually. Paul traveled from Jerusalem to Rome, and during this period were most of his Gospel written. Till today, Scholars are argueing its relevance to St. James's teachings. While James remained mostly in Jerusalem. That's why we see today, The 3rd revelation, Koran, unto Mohamad (pbuh) is dominant in ME, where the True faith of Jesus (as), his practices, and preaching is kept.
lieberat 3 years ago
Your information is missing alittle, doing a quick check. In Acts 15 at the Council at Jerusalem James leads the meeting inwhich Paul and Baranabus give a report of what conversion is happening among the Gentile well this is 50 Ad and James writting is in 49 AD. So we see a companionship between them all by here. Now JOhns Gospel is around 90ad inwhich all of Pauls writings were complete. Pauls trip to Rome..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
to Rome was on his last Jounreny but you see during his third journey he goes to Jerusalem and he is again received warmly by the brothers of Jesus. Their is nothing within the scriptures that draws a person to believe that any of the apostles disagreed with any of Pauls writtings. When you look at the Christian canon history you see that even the early church fathers accepted Pauls writings as being divinly inpired by ...
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
God. The 1st canon of NT scripture was called the Maturation Canon (mispelled sorry) that was in 119ad I believe and they included Pauls writings also. Let me be clear Pauls is just an apostle or workman for Jesus as was Peter, John, James and the others. Peter is not any greater than any of the others he was just willing to be used by God. Please provide scriptures challenges statements Pauls said that dont match the other books..Thanks you. Peace be with you.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
Ok , I'm not sure about this. There is a part when James called for the baptise of Paul to cleanse him after his journey for he has lifted what was actually prohibitied by God, such as, eating the meat of Swine. Isn't that true ?
lieberat 3 years ago
lieberat-if you are talking about when Paul came to Jerusalem in Acts 21:17- and James and the elders addressed Paul him. Paul was not asked to get baptised, but because others from Asia had came before him and stated that Paul was teaching other Jews among the Gentiles to not follow the Moses's teaching (circumcision or follow the customs) which was incorrect and that decision had been decided in Act 15 also none of Pauls writings..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
show him telling others to not follow the customes his writings tell that following the customs will not bring salvation, but salvation is freely given by God's gracious act. Now, James and the elders asked Paul to follow the Nazirite vow which was a purification vow see Numbers 6:1-23. Paul follwed it to not create anger and to show he was not teaching others not to follow the customes. Also you have ti remember that Paul..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
Paul knew that going to Jerusalem was going to bring hardships and prison, but Paul did not know in what means.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
I can't imagine u prayin' Jesus while thinkin' of him changin' diapers by his momy or go to toilet, come on be real,God doesn't need anybody and he is not like his creaturs.Did Jesus say Im God "no" but the so called "saint Paul" who wrote it many years after the death of Jesus.u people follow it emoltionnaly, use ur logic and intellect and find the God of jesus peace be upon him our beloved prophet, Quran is the word of God and we got millions proofs from science, history to maths.
AnInvitationToTheTru 3 years ago
When you talk about praying to Jesus while thinkin of him getting his diaper changed. Are you for real-didnt the same happen with Mohammad yet ur Quran calls Jesus the Messiah and sinless. Dude try reading John 14. You really dont know what ur talking about. John 1 tells that Jesus was God thats not Pauls writing. About Paul, his writing came in the 49-66ad in the middle of all the drama, but ..
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
Mohammand came in the 600 ad. hundreds of years later but you believe him. Please if you would like to discuss Biblicall truths please contact me, but stupid arguments are not getting us anywhere.
mkc1mdw 3 years ago
well im sorry if I ve provoked you, I don't use to attack others beleif so Im sorry again....anyway Im ready to make a freindly discussion with u, as Adam's son and my brother not a christian....what u say?
AnInvitationToTheTru 3 years ago
I don't think the Messiah and sinless means God, all prophets are sinles not only Jesus peace be upon him....okay let's take what u say, "jesus is god" any proofs?all I know is that I won't go beyond the first page in the bible to find contradiction,"God creat the day before the sun" I don't beleive God would say that....we muslim got proofs, pease go and check out the video of Ahmed Deedat against jimmy swaggart debat....or the banned bible by history channel on youtube....peace
AnInvitationToTheTru 3 years ago
Prophets are not sinless, they are human beings charged to carry God's message to humanity... What about the so called "satanic verses" in Qu'ran, where Muhammad fell into temptation and invented a few lines of the Qu'ran saying that the grace of three islamic goddess was a pleasant thing just to try to make an agreement with some pagan people who hated him because He was rejecting their tradition?
cinziamossa 2 years ago 3
Well I studied the Hadith that you mentioned here is not authenticate enough. There is no proof because there is a disconnection between the people who narrated the Hadith. This is a valid reason to reject the Hadith as authenticate source according to Hadith scholars.
simpleOgre 2 years ago
where did u bring that from ?first the bible is not the word of God it's ur so called "saint paul" words,We believe in The evangile of Jesus peace be upon him,but sorry praying 2 Gods at once without proofs doesn't make any sence,its the pure paganism, open ur mind if there were 2Gods or 3 as christians say,there would be 3wolrds or a big contradictive world cus everyone is going to creat.Imagine jesus peace be upon him our porphet and "Ur God" got a Papy and mamy lol
AnInvitationToTheTru 3 years ago
I love Yusuf Estes! May Allah bless him!
itsnigora 3 years ago
Who is to decide what is right and what is wrong? What is right for you is not right for me!!!
itsnigora 3 years ago
who died ? they saying that god died for us so who gave him his life back but if the man died i hope they stop saying that god died for us
r030b 3 years ago
Sure Ice water and steam are the same. It's no matter what it's appearance. Jesus is Lord forever.
headforhome 3 years ago
How can he be a Lord when he prayed to his Lord? Look at Orthodox Christians, they pray to the Lord not to Jesus!!!
itsnigora 3 years ago
WOW
NO MATTER WHO THEY KILLED:
HE-JESUS -or the other guy- was CRUSIFIED because he claimed himself to be:
SON OF GOD.
so dear MUSLIM: Either u RESPECT JESUS for HIS CLAIM AS SON OF GOD
Or u DISRESPECT JESUS and Call him a LIAR.
(now quran tells u to respect.. so even satan cant deny this. but he can decive you).
God bless you all. and turn away from satan.
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
If u say your son of GOD i must either say you are a lier -and then disrespect you and your words. or say you are correct and respect you. If I say your greek translated and this is not what you actually claimed, I even disrespect you more. If I say another man took your bullet and THE HOLE POINT is that You should TAKE THE BULLET as a ransom, I undermine you additional.
Why did JESUS come to earth? And if Jesus had power to give lives, to take lives (a tree), all by his word, who is he then?
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
...cont.
About Gen6,2.Your far off.Continue to read and you will see tht here is Genesis meeting the ancient greek mythology. Perhaps Troy and its ppl isnt just a myth. This story is of conduct wich was not ok.
exodus4,22 it methafor made by GOD. Isreal is his FIRST BORN as JESUS will COME FROM THERE, as all saviour will come from them, as Abraham comes from there. Indeed Israel is first born! But JESUS is SON of GOD. Why do you think JEsus was born in a virgin? and who would the fatehr be
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
Jesus by words order the tree to die.
Jesus was born in a virgin. No genes of ADAM there then. Jesus then born without sin. Death designed to deal with sin(-). Jesus show us the way threw death.
Kane & Abel gave sacrefise: Kane gave hard work, his own growings. Abal gave wht is the easiest animal to have-a sheep- nature provides it. GOD looked to ABEL. Why? Kane produced more Kane(-). Abel(-) came with something nature(God)provides(+). Death takes ABALs SIN, (Abel+-=0) Abel passes death.
Punishment7 3 years ago
A Christian when He dies, he passes death since JESUS is his lamb. This deal JESUS made at his Last supper, and Satan agreed upon it.
God wants you back. Satan got to send Jesus to death, in return GOD got humans back. Not all, cos then Satan will be terminated. But who then? Women and children? Old? 50%? No, only fair deal became "let those who belive it, shall be saved". very fair, very simple. Belived in what? Tht GOD sent his only SON to die for them. tht is love. What happens when(cont)
Punishment7 3 years ago
3. Wht happens when a muslim dies? If he deeds has been good the muslim might pass. if not he dont. who fix the muslim to heaven? the muslim does! he is KANE. by his own doings he makes path to heaven. Wake up!
Wht does a christian do to get to heaven? accept Jesus as saviour. Who do we thank? JESUS of course. Firts command: "You shall not have other GOD (worship) then I".
God made tht one EASY/natural for us. God is good.
Satan tries continuesly to pervert the image of GOD.
Punishment7 3 years ago
4. there is a line going all threw the bible, pointing at JESUS and He being the lamb. Suddenly 600 years later (or at year 666 years if you use the calendar of tht time: Julian Calendar-NUMBERS OF A MAN), God is suddenly changing all this? The chosen ppl is no longer chosen, the promise land is no longer promised, his Lamb is no longer the lamb?Yet he propheciesed of the coming of such a great deciver exact at this year!
Read the first sura spoken:("..I am the one who gave man knowledge")
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
Islam means submission. If a muslim dont care to visit mecca even if he lives near by, if he doesnt pray 4times aday even if he has all the time in the world, and when he finally pray its because he fear hell, then he is ok?Islam is a fearfactory then. Wich is exact how Satan tries to portrait GOD.
But you will not find GOD in Quran. Bible fortold us of Quran and did call him the great deciver.
GOD is consistent all threw the bible. No contradictions. Quarn truly undermine tht msg.
Punishment7 3 years ago
oo say word dat da Bible has no contradictions.. yur slow den.. i found enough mistakes in da Bible.. and give me da exact quote.. where it says by name Quran is a deceiver.. yur on rocks.. yur crazy.. yur stupid lol
SsHhAWwTtAYy 3 years ago
Bible says it threw prophecies.
666 number man=number of beast. Julian Calendar=Number of man, follow it to year 666 we find the EXACT year when firt PACT of AQUABA took place (when 12 men took ther oath to accosiate only mohammed with allahs word).
Islams own calendar is based upon some lunar nonsense wich HUMANs dont act upon.
JESUS is SON of GOD, JESUS CLAIMED THT.
Either respect him for it, or call him a liar for it. If you say anothre took his place, it doesn not change J`s claim
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
1.Year 621 is first pact of aqaba. That is year 666 in the JULIAN CALENDAR (wich is made up by NUMBERS of a MAN).
2.The beast is suppose to be strong but now by his own power (daniel), it shall have a feroucious face (GOD dont make faces like tht, but SATAN hates everyting with GOD, even his own face so he rater appeear without-muhammed). Black stone is said to be from space. Bible refers to angels as stars too. One wich came dark and was sent to earth (Satan). U worship towards satan.
Punishment7 3 years ago
3.Why u say pbuh to Jesus? U disrespect Jesus by claiming him a prophet and not son of GOD.
4. Muhammed according to muslims was not having 2 of his front teeth. He fought 26 battles. He slit throuth of those jews who had challanged him intelectual at early stages. He married a 6 year old. and did her at 9. sick even by that times standard, so even he had to wait. But wors of all: he perverted the image of GOD. He decived mankind. No other false prophet can ever appear and compete with this.
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
3.You cant say you respect someone by saying that what they claim was not right.
If someone else died or even if JEsus wasnt killed but survice (even if its like taking away the cornerstone of the bible), it wont change the fact that REASON for it was the CLAIMS Made BY JESUS AS SON OF GOD.
I got no hatred in my heart. But if I say your a christian and I respect your claim as Jesus as son of God, you would get pissed of, as no such thing was ever said by you. dont fake history.Respect him
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
Aquaba was in 621. That is when 12 men came infront of Muhammed and took the first oath of accosiating him and only him with word of Allah. Birht of a new religion.
Islam calendar starts at 622 based upon moonlocation. GOD give a shit about when satan starts his deciving calendar. GOD cares aobut fact. WIKI: "According to Islamic tradition, the Stone fell from Heaven to show Adam and Eve where to build an altar and offer a sacrifice to God". Quran forfills the SATAN in the bible. Odd u think?
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
5.I dont dispute muha8mmed encountered a spirit. But was it really GOD? Cos accorign to bible SATAN would say: I AM GOD (But since he hates GOD he might take a different name:Allah). Satan is also MASTER of deluting. If he lies so you fall, he takes the bill. So he tries to trick you to take the wrong conclusions(Quran: "I am the one who gave mankind knowledge". Bible: satan gave knowledge to mankind, making us unthrustworty in eyes of the lord).
(cont..)
Punishment7 3 years ago
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crazysalah 3 years ago
I hope you have a daughter who is get married when shes 6, sais nice things about her husband, and gets laid when she is 9. With some dude who calls himself a prophet. We can talk about how OK muhammed was then.
Im not bothering to comment on how Muhammed LIVED his life. I think its even too shamful to comment on. Im repulsed that a man with such actions and characters as him, you even compare him to any of the ppl in the bible.
Punishment7 3 years ago
Don't be foolish, a 9 year old girl on those days with Arabic race is easyly compared with today's fully grown up woman. try to think about your own salvasion which can be done only through God, belive him and ask him to guid you and to show you the right path, and try not to insult those beautiful people...what if you were wrong?!!!
even if there was a small chance that you are wrong how can you even raise your head in front of God???? it would be embaresing, no?!!!
God bless us all!
rezatalebani 3 years ago
But Im not wrong. Thts the case.
I felt the Holy spirit. I dont care if muslim say its no such thing as trinity. I felt it. Litterly. Like a dove- Just like JESUS experienced it too. I though it all was suppose to e metaphore. But its not.
The GOD I met is not an angry punishing GOD. Satan takes ppl search for GOD and slowly pervert and alternate the image of GOD, luring humans away from GOD, beliving GOD is something GOD is not! GOD showed me that. And showed me to tell it to all people.
Punishment7 3 years ago
What about the others like Joseph Smith who claim they had experiences with God.
You see God clearly says in his first commandment DO NOT TAKE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!
Jesus was clearly not the Father because he prayed to him, The Bible calls Jesus a mediator between man and God, this is in complete disagreement with the first commandment
And it isn't just Muslims who reject the Trinity but many Christians today, Trinity is a Nicean concept, The word itself is no where in the Bible
PEACE
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
"DO NOT TAKE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!"
Muslim: "Salamalecou, menshalla, gestures, respect of this, of that, but no one truly respect GOD. All muslim does is steal respect of one another.
Test: Pick "a god" to worship, anything. It could be a car, 100 naked women in your flat, a stone, wht ever. If someone on your way home took a bullet for you so he died, no matter wht god you have, you would have to thank tht man too. GOD made it easy to worship GOD. HE took the bullet. (Cont.1)
Punishment7 3 years ago
I would thank the man, NOT WORSHIP HIM.
God did make it easy for me to worship Him, HE MADE ME,
And Again God doesn't die, and He certainly doesn't have to take a bullet for you in order to forgive your sins, He knows the heart and knows if you are truly repenting.
No offense but the other argument you posted had worse English than these and made no sense, not making fun or anything, it just didn't make sense.
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
I see you struggle with wht we christian has come to call trinity.
GOD created water-
Water comes as liquid, as clouds, or as rock solid ice. So does GOD, JESUS, Holy spirit. Its all part of the same, just as a box has length, width, and hight.
A soldier is given every power and will of its president to do the presidents will. Therfor the soldier and president is as one, not one word of president will be done unless its given to the soldier. And the holy spirit in this? Its real. True
Punishment7 3 years ago
Ok but the President and the soldier are still two different people, you can't go to a Soldier and call him Mr President, of course not and they certainly don't make the same money, and they certainly don't get the same honor....Thus they are two different people....
Is Jesus the Father??? If not then you must admit you are worshiping two different People, maybe at the same time, but still two distinct Persons, and that is not Monotheism, it is a Pantheon.
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Father, son and holy Ghost is ONE. Like 1x1x1 is one.
When a chritian die, its faith in JESUS as SON of GOD, and tht He dying on cross for my sins tht will save me. So I thank GOD for GOD giving me a way to enter back into society with Him. ths wht it takes.
When u do wht allah has asked its all up to you then. Yet you thank allah for it nowing it is you and wht luck tht came your way tht gave you the ticket. Chritians we CANT make it no matter wht. Were all siners so GOD make us the way.
Punishment7 3 years ago
"When u do wht allah has asked its all up to you then"
Actually the same can be said of Christianity, It takes faith and good works in your religion also, it says so in James, it takes faith and living a righteous life the best you can
God knows the intentions of the Heart.
It is up to you to obey God and believe in Him.
We simply thank Him for being merciful enough to send us guidance on how to get there
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Dont you think its odd when:
- Satan gave mankind knowledge in the bible, and first recite muhammed did was"... recite for I am teh one who gave mankind knowledge".
- GOD is everywhere, satan is not, muslims must face mekka.
- God said "deciver shall have a feroucious face" (contradicts doesnt it-when GOD creator is all LOVE?), No. only feroucies face is the one who destroys his own face, cos he hates everthing GOD has given to him. Satan will appear faceless. See "redhood and the wolf"
Punishment7 3 years ago
-The Bible said my children are DEAD because of lack of knowledge
-And in the Bible God also commanded people to make pilgrimage to his temple and pray towards it in Jerusalem, this is still done by Jews today, and was done by early Muslims until God directed Muhammad(AS) to pray towards Mecca, so this again is Biblical.
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
bible speaks of 3 death, 1 when we became dead from GOD, 1 when we litterly die, and 1 if you hit etarnal death. 3death in 1.
Check out this: Deciver shall have the number of 666, wich is also "a mans number".
If we use JULIAN calendar (made by Ceacar,lasted for 1600 years), and follow his calendar to year 666, we find the first pact of aquaba(621AD). Now, new testament means NEW PACT. And is the FINAL pact, and fits with whole bible. Why GOD would appear at a time wich he warns us of?
Punishment7 3 years ago
On the "666" thing actually that is a mistranslation and the number is more along the lines of "616".
And no the New Testament does not fit the rest of the Bible, in Matthew his geneology is full of errors, and he also Misquotes Isaiah. This is not to say the Gospel given to Jesus not from God. But where is the document written by Jesus the is titled Gospel. We don't have it, in fact we don't even have the originals of the cannonized texts of the new testament.
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Father, son and holy Ghost is ONE. Like 1x1x1 is one.
Actually 1*1*1 only counts when you only have one thing
You have three distinct beings with three distinct features, whom you say are three different personas.
You don't call Jesus the Father, you never call the Father the son, and you never call the Holy Spirit either of them.
So actually to correct your math your really trying to say 1+1+1=1, but we all know better.
PEACE
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
I can tell you this a bout the "trinity" not many ppl have a clue about it. But think of it as water, ice, and steam. Its all the same, but it appears different.
When I baptized I did so because JESUS said so, (i didnt read WHY he said so), but very odd -after couple of days, just like a dove - the holy spirit came to me. I did not think such thing would happen, I did not know JESUS got the holy spirit too like a dov, after he baptized. And a dove is quite fitting, cos it takes off if harsh.
Punishment7 3 years ago
Ok but water is not steam, or ice when it is water. Meaning it isn't water, ice, and steam ate the SAME TIME.
You see it must be one or the other, Jesus while on Earth prayed to God, called the Father his God and our God.
So you see Jesus could not be God incarnated on earth because God was still in Heaven.
PEACE
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Brother tnx for your knoledg but could u please not say that god isin heaven, becouse god is not in his creation nor can he b controlled by it. keep up the good work ^^
Peace
007SubmissioN007 3 years ago
You don't need to correct the Sheik sweety! He meant God is up there but we don't know where! He didn't say that he was in the heavens or in the clouds! So please before correcting someone correct yourself first! Jazzakulla!
itsnigora 3 years ago
i did not want 2 corect him lol i rote that 2 some 1 else :P sorry for the miss understanding..
Peace
007SubmissioN007 3 years ago
I also notice you spell Allah lower cased, Did you not know it is used by arabic speaking Christians in their translations of the Bible?
Or better yet, Jesus spoke Aramaic, which in the Language the word for God is "Allaha" or "Allah"
Just though you might know so you could make corrections.
Also if you want I don't mind at all if you prefer to send Messages to me that way you could get your thoughts across better,
I don't know about you but I hate the Character limit
PEACE
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
ehh, JESUS was a jew. He spoke hebrew. When Jesus died on the cross he said "ELI ELI...". Wht was common knowledge back then was that HE said this cos he was quoting a verse in the book of Solomon.
If you read tht text (its written some 500bc, you will see that the text is about JESUS crusifixion, and how they devided his cloth. He said it so we could understand. Its just yet another forfilling of a prophecy, confirming an anzient text. But muslims use this quote out of its context, to dis HIM
Punishment7 3 years ago
"Ehh, JESUS was a jew. He spoke hebrew"
Indeed Jesus was a Jew, but in his time Hebrew was a dead language used only in the Temple and Synagoque, Aramaic was the language of those people, so yes when reading scripture he would have used Hebrew, but talking to people in the street would have spoke Aramaic, plz do some more research
I find it odd you quote a verse where He shouts God had forsaken him, so God forsook himself? Sounds confusing, I thought God didn't author confusion? LoL
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
1.All I did was a quick google, and the answer I got was tht science is inconclusive about his language. Maby I shoudl google some more.
trinity, u can look as a tree with brances. They are connected, they are part of the same. One dont go without the otehr. I admit its difficult, but tht doesnt make it wrong.
But who is JESUS father, if He was born in a virign? Cos we all have one.
And since there is no genes of ADAM involved, its no SIN in JESUS as well. Satan wanted Him then.dead
Punishment7 3 years ago
2. Humans are created worshippers, we are influenced by higher spirits no matter what. When we became sinners, GOD had to trash us, but we are loved, so he let us live under Satan. When Jesus came, a deal was made- Satan gets to kill JESUS, and GOD gets humans back. Wich humans? All? No, satan has no hostage then. 50%? wich one? all are sinners. Those who belive in it! Belive what? Beive tht JESUS sent do die for his Sins. Belive it and u be saved. thts it. The deal is made in BELIVE. no facts.
Punishment7 3 years ago
"When Jesus came, a deal was made- Satan gets to kill JESUS, and GOD gets humans back."
Brother why would God ever give us to Satan?! and if he wanted us back he certainly would NOT HAVE TO MAKE A DEAL WITH SATAN TO GET US BACK!!!!!
I'm not sure where this theology of God being so weak that he had to make a deal with Satan to allow us to be able to go to heaven. God never lost control!!!!
God has power over ALL things.
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
But who is JESUS father, if He was born in a virign? Cos we all have one.
I answer that with the same question of Adam. He had no Mother or Father? The Bible calls in the son of God in luke chapter 3
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Your wrong there, but dont realize it.
Wht does it mean to WORSHIP? Tell me tht pls.
GOD u worship cos he MADE you.
The man I talk about SAVED you.
Both GAVE you life.
When a muslim die, its all up to how the muslim conducted his life on earth wich will determine his access into heaven. The muslim must thank HIMSELF. Its the muslim who make his way to heaven.
When I die, I thank JESUS for making my path to heaven, as JESUS is GOD, but also my lamb.
Wht lamb do you have?
Punishment7 3 years ago
"When a muslim die, its all up to how the muslim conducted his life on earth wich will determine his access into heaven. The muslim must thank HIMSELF"
No it takes two things, Faith in Allah, and doing what he asked, We would thank Allah for having mercy enough to give us guidance on how to get to Heaven
You must say the same because in Christianity, it takes faith and good works as well, because as it says in the book of James one without the other is DEAD.
Peace Brother
IslamIsTheWay87 3 years ago
Is GOD the same always? I belive so. The stories of the bible connects, all up to JESUS, Muhammed connect only as the deciver.
KANE & Abel both sinners (negatives) gave sacrefise to GOD. Kane gave of his earth growins. thts HARD work. Abel gave a lamb, thts NO work.
KANE(-) gave more of Kane(-), but Abel(-) gave a lamb provided by GOD(+). Death wich is designed to take life and SIN(-), then takes the lamb(+) and ABEL attach his SIN (-), wich maked Abel pass over Death. Whats your lamb?
Punishment7 3 years ago