The anti-RIAA Video

[vevoumgwmg]

Why are we against RIAA? They are the ones that fights piracy and complies with the law.

[phantomellen]

@vevoumgwmg yea, you think suing someone ass off and claim for million dollars for downloading several music is justified. Shouldn't there is a limit that how far RIAA can go?

[vevoumgwmg]

@phantomellen Well you should try to write proper English before making your argument.

I never said anything about suing people for money either. I just said people should using pirated music against the rules of Youtube.

[nguyenkhan202]

You guys have big talk. No one really have actions on RIAA and they are dominating in music. They are an empire and you guys are civilians.

[HardbeatAcolyte]

To hell with the RIAA

[campaingboy73]

The RIAA is so gay, they married the MPAA!!!!!!

[campaingboy73]

i hope the RIAA's CEO is a homeless douchebag someday.

[danieleinad86]

they should make a program were you could get a subscription and pay 10 bucks or something a month and lets you download all the music you want and distribute the earnings of the organization that is managing the program between the artists, and the record labels(if its necessary)

[danieleinad86]

times change and the records company wants us 2 stay in the past buying cd, who uses a cd player??? everyone owns a mp3 player even artists. we all know that it is illegal to copy someones work but this industry has to change and it is Ridiculous what the RIAA is doing to the people in order to get profits by making lawsuits, saying they are protecting the artist, but i bet non of them(the artist) see a penny of the earnings of those lawsuits, support your artists by buying merch and concerts!!

[Alxmir23]

i wonder who is the real thief,the little girl who download on the net because she dont even have money to spend on a disc or the corporate fags who sue 12 yrs old for 2 millions?

[eddzetarabbit]

I heard that RIAA had just shut down LimeWire. I can't believe that they took out a popular software. We should go and protest against this!

[Alxmir23]

@eddzetarabbit because of that im never buying a music disc ever again

[gamedevMike]

lol I thought of cool tune: "piracy killed the music star"

You can't stop piracy without invasion of privacy. Sorry ;P (not)

[zerospicon]

"A man creates, a parasite asks,'where's my share?'" - Andrew Ryan

FUCK THE RIAA

[zerospicon]

this really is an eye-opener

[MrTheBeast]

cd is 20 dollars

but the true cost to make it is less than a dollar

WTF?

thats why piracy happens and because there are better things to spend money on

[macperson9]

Well, actually, yes. The Disc itself costs less than a dollar to make, but remember, you are also paying for the content on the CD. The problem is that that $20 isn't only going for the content and the producers, but an insane percentage of it is going to the recording industry and the "Big-Business," while the artist and the producers are being left in the cold. This is why piracy prevails. It is almost moral.

[MrTheBeast]

if you truly support the artist then you go to their concerts

but i hate big business

[new01]

@MrTheBeast now the big labels are taking large cuts out of the money artists make from shows by getting them to sign really bad contracts.

[StealthMaster86]

The next time I hear somebody said "They sold out!" I'll say "No they just got screwed"

I would be happy to give my $20 to buy a CD but only if the Aritist gets every penny. They worked hard for it and they desirve more than 80 cents per album sold. Why don't we ever hear the aritist complain about Piracy? The last artist I heard so far that is all about Piracy is Joss Stone.

[teaboyaudio]

The reason artists like briney get promoted is because priates steal the music you like and thus it makes no profit. Labels are forces to push the artists that actually sell and don't get pirated as much. Because of piracy they don't have the budgets to develop risky acts anymore. And Britney isn't making 20 million a year on her record sales. R&D finds talent and develops it. They need an R&D dept in order to find acts and get them to the point where they can have a product to sell.

[Lackrymosssa]

The God has passed the 11s Bible comandment to Moses:

11.You should not download free melodies from the internet))

If the hell cant stop you, I advice you to download Stegano internet anonimy? proxy checker or p2p, good luck))))

[smergibblegibberish]

What song is this?

[teaboyaudio]

What this video is intentionally leaving out is that that profit the labels make is needed to spend on other artist. Without that profit, there cannot be any artist development. There is absolutely no way to predict what will be successful. So only 1 out of 20 albums makes a profit and has to support the other 20 artists who do not make a profit. It's not rich people that are being hurt. It's the 1000s and 1000s of employees just trying to get by who get laid off from stealing.

[travelsonic]

"here is absolutely no way to predict what will be successful."

If they only keep their search only to the limited scope they seem to already serve, then yes it is difficult to predict what will be successful.

[teaboyaudio]

Incorrect. If anyone was able to predict successful songs, they would be the richest person on Earth. If you could do it, you would do it. But you, like the entire rest of the world population cannot do so. Pretending that record labels are intentionally trying to shoot themselves in the foot and intentionally lose money is not realistic.

[travelsonic]

"It's the 1000s and 1000s of employees just trying to get by who get laid off from stealing. "

1) Piracy / copyright infringement is piracy / copyright infringement, not theft logically / factually. Of course everybody is entitled to their own moral opinion. All those people - how do you know they were laid off due to piracy?  Economics, and other factors come in too, to say it is 100% due to piracy can't be intellectually honest by any stretch of the imagination.

[teaboyaudio]

Copyright infringment is theft. It has nothing to do with morals, it has to do with the law. And while No one said everything is 100% due to piracy, we can measure the effect piracy has on the industry, Let's stop pretending this is all some big guess work here. We can measure the amount of content that is being stolen. This has nothing to do with the general economy.

[travelsonic]

Tell me, when has anybody been charged with theft for downloading a movie?

Copyright law and property laws are different. That's how it will be legally. There is a difference bwteeen what one believes morally, and what is true in factual discussion.

"Let's stop pretending this is all some big guess work here. "

It would be simpler if the RIAA / MPAA / BSA stopped inflating their figures and reported just the facts.

[teaboyaudio]

Violators of copyright law can be charged with up to 5 years jail time and $250,000 per song. It is a form of theft and is why we have copyright laws. It's how we handle theft of intellectual property. Music IS intellectual property. These are facts.

The RIAA is not inflating their figures and the RIAA doesn't provide the figures or research. They ARE reporting the facts. You cannot just making up shit because you don't like the facts.

[travelsonic]

"The RIAA is not inflating their figures and the RIAA doesn't provide the figures"

They do not provide the figures, but more often than not they DO inflate the figures.

"You cannot just making up shit because you don't like the facts. "

Pot... kettle... black?

[teaboyaudio]

Now you're just flat out lying. The do display the statistics by the companies that check the numbers and provide the details on how the numbers are obtains. To say they inflate them is a flat out lie that you cannot substantiate. Show us where they inflate them. You can't do it.

[travelsonic]

Citing the penalties for copyright infringement doesn't make it theft.

Copyright infringement violates rights - the right to exclusive control over how a work is distributed or used outside of what qualifies as fair use.

Theft deprives somebody of their property.

Downling v. The United States, and Grokster cases all bring upo this important difference. Citing "intellectual property" doesn't make data = physical property when they are still separated by many bodies of laws and logic.

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[teaboyaudio]

We're not talking about physical property, we're talking about intellectual property. You kids feel somehow entitled to things and that if something has no mass you are entitled to steal it. it costs a lot of money and time to produce these products. To take it w/o compensation is stealing and punishable by up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 per song.

Learn the law.

[travelsonic]

Learn the law... yeah, pot calling the kettle black.

Take your own advice you hypocritical twit.

[teaboyaudio]

No it's not the pot calling the kettle black. It's me pointing out the actual law and you pointing out property law which does not apply here. On top of that you make flat out false claims about the RIAA. If you didn't make stuff up, we wouldn't be having this argument. You can be prosecuted in a criminal court.

[Inmate527]

But if I steal an album from a store me being a child I would just get community service. If I get caught sharing a song on limewire I get sued $250,000. That just doesnt add up!

[teaboyaudio]

This is a great point. The reason theft in music is rampant is because there is no enforcement of the law. The companies sue because it's the only thing they can do to keep from going out of business. If the police didn't arrest people from stealing from a store, the stores would have to try and sue ppl. The damage is collective and billions a year. But you cant file a suite against a large group. There simply is no other action that can be taken.

[Inmate527]

Why do they still sell songs made by dead artist?

[new01]

@teaboyaudio if we had machines that could copy physical items at a cost that is far bellow the value of the asset companies would call it stealing at first. But if the possibilities of the digital world existed in the physical world there wouldn't be a need for money as a resource would no longer be scarce.

[teaboyaudio]

Even if we did, it would still cost money to produce that product from which you are then making unlimited free copies for yourself. And thus it would still be stealing. Do you think that anyone who does not provide a physical item does not deserve to be paid? If your boss decided not to pay you, it would be OK, because you're not missing a physical item right? We shouldn't have to pay doctors because they don't provide a physical item right?

[new01]

@teaboyaudio human services require a person's time and labor. However, making music does too, I am an artist myself. The fact is the "losses" that the recording industry pulls out there ass are largely hypothetical. Most people I know download music, especially younger people because they don't have the money to buy it therefore on an item that is duplicated at no expense(by someone who bought it) to the record industry on something that wouldn't have been purchased, the loss isn't real.

[teaboyaudio]

No the losses are in no way hypothetical. As someone who works in the industry I can tell you there is no truth to that claim. For every sucessful album, there are 15-20 that are in the red because no one can predict art. The profitable ones have to cover the losses. And just because someone can't afford something does not give them the right to steal. You don't have the right to take advantage of someone else's work because you wouldn't buy it anyways. BY stealing, the loss becomes real.

[travelsonic]

"No the losses are in no way hypothetical."

Really? So you are absolutely certain of this, that the person without pirating woud buy it otherwise?

THAT is a "truth" with no claim.

"BY stealing, the loss becomes real."

But you have yet to demonstrate where stealing.theft occurred, and no, repeating that it is over and over doesn't count. Doesn't make piracy right, but if you think saying it isn't stealing is equal to saying it is ok, well, you gotta figure out your shit on your own.

[jonnyclueless]

@travelsonic

If someone steals something, that theft is a sale. They took a product without paying. If they didn't intend to buy it, then they should not have stolen it. Just because they wouldn't have bought it is not an excuse. Is it OK for someone to rob you if they wouldn't have paid you for your product otherwise?

Proving stealing is the easy part. Someone takes someone else's property without permission. It's theft.

[teaboyaudio]

BTW, I love how the same people who are also the same ones here trying to censor people by voting them down repeatedly. How ironic.

[travelsonic]

Ironic how?

[MrTheBeast]

thats the truth

[Killuminati911]

@Inmate527 they like to scare people thats how the world works they can never caugth all the downloaders...

[travelsonic]

"This has nothing to do with the general economy. "

When you throw around people being laid off, YES the economy has to do with it. You can not exclude the economy as a variable, as it is a huge dynamic beast with regards to how businesses operate.

[teaboyaudio]

Again, we're talking about the people layed off because of piracy, not the overall people being layed off. I am not including those.

You seem to have this misconception that we're just talking about people in general being layed off and then trying to say it's all because of piracy. We're not. And keep in mind that 95% of digital transfers are illegal. So let's not pretend that the 95% loss is some small factor compared to the economy.

[naivete2006]

There are already dozens of studies showing file-sharing increases record sales. Not only are record companies gaining sales from drastically increased exposure they are making money off lawsuits in court.

Even if "kids" as you put it download this music illegally they then purchase merchandise, concert tickets, etc.

The legal system itself is a complete joke. LOL You take it MUCH too seriously. You can either fight this along with the RIAA and lose or join the online revolution.

[teaboyaudio]

No there aren't, which is why you would be unable to present any. The fact is that in a couple years all the record labels will be out of business and there will be no one left to put music out. There will be independents who have no money to do so.

You just feel bad for stealing music and being the root of the problem . Your revolution is the end of music. I choose to support the RIAA and keep music alive instead helping you destroy music and the economy

[Inmate527]

WOW you seriously cannot be that stupid. Most artist hardly make any money as it is because the record labels take most of the profits from the album. The lucky artist make their money through the tours. At one time the the practice of taking all of the album profits was justified (era of vinyl) but this is no longer true today because distribution in the digital medium cost almost nothing. The fact that the record labels charge the same as vinyl shows how greedy they are.

[teaboyaudio]

Actually I work in the record business working for those artists. Your claim is untrue. Labels do take a bigger percentage. Because they have to fund ALL the artists. For every success you see, there are 10-15 flops that they have to pay for. They have to do the R&D and the development. The reason many artist have trouble making money on albums is because of piracy. The labels charge the same because the cost is in producing the content, not the media. Education.

[Inmate527]

What is your job? Which artist do you work for? What percentage do labels take? Why do they have to pay for flops? Why do artist still need labels? Why are digital albums priced the same as their analog counterparts? Why dont quality artist get the attention they deserve when Britney Spears is making 20 million a year? What is this R&D department? What do they test in this R&D department? Why do the record labels need an R&D department?

[teaboyaudio]

I do engineering work and I have worked with most of the people out today and with all the major labels. We are not big shots, we are just people trying to pay our bills. Why do they pay for the flops? Who do you expect to pay for them? The records have to be made with money. Artist need labels because it costs a lot of money to mak an album. The prices are the same because the cost to produce an album is higher than it used to be during analog.

[Inmate527]

Why is the cost to produce higher? I thought the cost to record an album is lower than in the era of analog. Is there really a need for a RIAA anymore? Do you think that their business model is obsolete and that there needs to be an new one created to ensure its survival?

[teaboyaudio]

Because the cost of living has gone up. Same reason milk costs more but its still jsut milk. The price of gas affects the cost of plane tickets, transporting things, building things. Rents are higher so facilities used pay more for their costs. Its the whole economy that is the cause. The media the music is on is cheaper, but is a negligable expense. There is no business model that can compete with free. I think the RIAA exists because the labels cannot defend themselves on their own.

[Inmate527]

WOW you are telling me a completely different story than what I have heard before. I am sorry for calling you stupid. I had no idea that there where so many variables involved. Do you think that there can be a cure for the music industry? What will happen to music if the industry vanishes?

[FunIsPhun]

I dare someone to blow up their HQ. We should sign a petition

[sderenzi]

that song drives me crazy, stop playing it. Besides you are violating copyright playing it and I am suing!

[coolgeek7]

fuck the

Retared

Ignorant

Assholes of

America

[GreenDay1981]

Really

Impotent

Alone

Assholes

Fuck the RIAA and the artists who support them. God forbid these crybaby bitches should get screwed out of their next Lexus or mansion. None of these dumbfucks ever stopped to think that maybe file-sharing HELPS album sales. All the greedy record companies need their diapers changed. They can all rot in hell for all I care.

[simpsonstewie]

lexus?? those aren't even expensive

[GreenDay1981]

The luxury models are.

[DeusExPlexus]

Yeah, right. And Grizzly Adams had a beard.

[GreenDay1981]

Grizzly Adams did have a beard.

[AuronTsubaki85]

The politicians under Mt. Washington really enjoy scaring us with their threats. One thing, can't sue someone who is already dead! This country is going to become one big prison cell in the next 10 to 20 years. If that happens I'm moving out of it!

[amnistic45]

Ruddy

Idiotic

Arogant

Anuses

RIAA can piss off.

Someone kill Hilary Rosen please.

File sharing isn't illegal.

[bmwguy145]

RIAA=

R = Rich

I = Ignorant

A = American

A =Asshats

[LVAzippy]

Are you KIDDING me? Artists only get 25 grand for a 300 grand deal? THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! The STUDIO should only get 25 grand, and the ARTIST(s) should get the 165 grand. If a studio tried to BS their way into ripping me off, I would walk out of there. I'm not working hard for a music career to get fucking 5% of sales!!!!

[Bankotsu897]

There is a song called legion of stupid by Machinae supremacy they talk about the riaa

[LostHope777]

RIAA = .R.eally .I.rritating .A.rrogant .A.ssholes

[LVAzippy]

LOL! xD Too true! If they really cared about making money so much, they would listen to us! O_O

[thepcwizard]

If they dont want people downloaading then why make it so easy why raise the prices of songs?? and i mean a few pence lost wont effect the lifestlye lost from the aartists with about 6 million there will always be ilegal p2p forever and they cant face it i know its wrong and i am gunna pay but listen up people this can not be stopped or fixed p2p will always be around!!

[hydrochelle]

Wow, I don't understand how the RIAA have so much power....I'm not that bright but seems to me they are ruin people's lives, making regular citzens payout thousands of dollars for songs/files. College students going to jail and being kicked out of school with huge settlements to pay? kids being sued? dead people being sued? aliens being sued!!!!! The government needs to stop this bullshit, I'm moving to Iraq now, cya! j/k fuck that

[X9SamFisher]

it's called buying off the polotitions in washington

[jimzie7]

song is

GDMFSOB (Kill Bill Variation) by DJ Shadow

i don't hink its the UNKLE Uncensored since it doesnt have Roots Manuva

[tuberabban]

Great info!

And whats the name of the soundtrack??

[morten93]

They say they're are losing billions every year, this simply cannot be taken serious, if people could not download or copy the music this would not lead to their purchase. Artists receive only a few percent of music sales, the argument that they would disappear is futile and the resulting factor being more live music. Business is risk and sometimes fails. Society holds no responsibility to feed a certain group of people.

The time for sharing is here and the times of the plastic gold has ended.

[Xplosiv08]

I agree ! I have bought MANY games and music that I have downloaded in the past. I know a lot of people dont, but those are also the people who dont buy no matter what. So how the fuck is a company losing money if the person wasnt ever even going to buy it in the first place, I dont get it.

[LVAzippy]

Artists only get a few percent of sales? I'm sorry, but as a composer, I can say that is total BULLSHIT. The companies are the ones who should be getting a few percent. >=(

[pigfister]

RIAA = Mafia price fixing, payola scandal scumbags:

do a google search for " RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio"

and see how they want to block all media not signed up to their contracts!

[GUAYAPA]

RIAA

dont says nothing about biggest boss music

edgar broffman, stoled 700.000.000 to canadian

people, when he take out over 2 billions dollars without to pay taxes.

He meets CANANDIAN SENATES representatives of

canadian people !!!! and dicted laws allowed

him to robbe money, thats SIONIST POWER, lia

RIAA, they never created something, but

stole all to the human especie

[regtracker]

after seeing the profit breakdown on a cd i find it hard to figure out why the artists would defend the "industry" but i suppose 8 cents is 8 cents lol.

the artists should let their contracts run out then get together, cut out the money grubbing middle-men,and go straight to the web to distribute their product.

then the artist could be in direct control of who gets paid what.

[NeoToasty]

What bothers me is that the more and more portable MP3 players are released the more they are tempting you to either download the music or buy the music on a online store. Doesn't matter if you buy the music or not, RIAA will still nail you even if you own the CD and rip from it to your PC. Fucking hypocritical bastards they are.

[musicalmike235]

The video quality is a little grainy, its hard to read the text on the screen.

[Infrog]

RIAA=

R = Really

I = Ignorant

A = Annoying

A = Assholes

[Gavinizu]

Riaa can suck my balls.

[XxTrailofDeadxX]

"When you're ripe, you'll bleed out of control." They're ripe ;)

[gumpman155]

Well this is what I got to say about the RIAA one of these days the RIAA and others like them is going to die off. God is going to get rid of all of that when Jesus Christ comes back. In Jesus's kingdome there won't be any RIAA or any thing like that.

[AirForcedude5]

the riaa sucks. nuf said.

[lacountess]

I wished the artists (even the big ones) each had their own site where they would sell their own songs, THEMSELVES. Then I didn't have to wonder how much of my money went to the people who actually made the music whenever I paid $15 per CD.

[realgangsta45]

I wish I can stick a shovel into the RIAA's ass!

FUCK THE RIAA!

IM NOT PAYING ANY FUCKING MONEY FOR ANY SONGS BITCHES!!

Netiher will anyone (I hope)

[cheesyedd]

rock on!!!!!!!!!

[oscillator]

Retard.

[psychobolia]

GigaTribe is probably the best app as far as file sharing goes. You can let friends download directly from your harddrive, and all exchanges are encrypted...great way to exchange entire folders of files with your friends and no size limits.

[zaphraud]

Recording and mixing equipment is cheaper now than ever before, the people bankrolling the music industry are *NOT* taking anywhere near the risk funding new talent they took 30 years ago.

So why the hell should they expect or receive the same dividend on that investment when it pays off with a hit?

[sunkillerrecords]

Nice video. Try making another that gives time to read the quotes. It ruins the effect to pause it constantly.

[Oberheim345]

fuck the record indu$try. Whatever happened to the good days when it it was all about the music and not the fucking MONEY??? All this goddamn greed on the indu$try's part is absolutely KILLING music and something should be done about it before further damage is caused (which I doubt....that whole boy band/bimbo pop princess bubblegum explosion in the late 90s was pretty damn bad).

once again, something great and wonderful ruined by the allmighty dollar.

[psibrii]

DIE-A-RIAA cha cha cha, DIE-A-RIAA cha cha cha!

[msdnvp]

they will never learn, cant teach old dogs new tricks

[espotomax]

nice, good message, to fill an ipods its over 10,000 dollars, that not right

[laosthaxgsr]

5:26 great thought!!! great vid!!

[andy5421]

whats the song you play through the video? Very nice and informative video.

+5

[GlobalVizion]

The song is "Battle Without Honor" by Tomoyasu Hotei. Pretty sweet song, right? I figured it was fitting for the Music Industry. LOL

[travelsonic]

I knew I heard that song before - Dance Dance Revolution SuperNova hass a shortened version.

[travelsonic]

(video game)

To the point, the RIAA can kiss my ass.

[marinagarza]

The RIAA is at it again. If you haven't heard, they are trying to drive small internet radio station (the ones that support indie music) out of business by increasing their royalty fees up to 300% from 2006-2010. this will drive everyone out of business but the large corporations that don't play indie music. If you are an indie fan and an internet radio fan write your congressman and sign the online petition. It's time to fight for freedom of choice!

[GlobalVizion]

I couldn't agree more. I think it's absurd what the RIAA and SoundExchange (their affiliate company who's responsible for collecting royalties) are trying to do. It's funny. Not an ounce of originality from either of those guys. The public comes up with all kinds of new innovative ways to spread music and develop new outlets (technologically) and the RIAA just gets mad cause they do nothing to further music. It's like the bully and the nerd in High School. LOL

[marinagarza]

Good point. It's hard for record companies (an old business) to change their business model to the changing times.  It's like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. They only can do what they do best...exploit and price gouge.

[teaboyaudio]

That is 100% False!

The rates are being DECREASED by 16%, not increased. It's these kind of lies that encourage more people to continue stealing music, which is the biggest factor in the decline of music. If you support music, get educated on this issue instead of reading false propaganda such as being promoted here.

It will increase later on as the industry picks up in 2015. And of course if things don't by then, it will be renegotiated. This issue also has nothing to to with IRAA. It's NAB.

[joshuadavis703]

This is a good video, but I had to keep pausing it to read what is said.

[GlobalVizion]

I know. You're absoultely right. However, I didn't want the video to go too long and lose people's interest. Plus I had a hard time figuring out how much time leave for each frame due to me already knowing the content. LOL. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it.

[NumI3er06]

a good rule of thumb is to read it out loud twice.

[jaynemanus1234]

Excellent, very precise and true!