It is a "prewar" model which were made through 1946. There are differenes between transition and prewar models. Consult Roger Rules book and check serial range as well. Most people think it has to be made before the war to pre war but it is actually a style and was made through 1946. The war ending in 1945 has nothing to do with the configuration which is "Pre War".
@sbccat Beautiful rifle, as i have one myself. I am an owner of a solid pre 64 collection! Very beautiful rifle i must say again. I have the 30-06, .243, .220 swift, .264, and i have three .270s. Every rifle is just beautiful to look at. I have only bought three of the rilfes in my collection, the rest, my late grandfather passed down to me and its such an honor to be the owner of a great firearm. Glad to know somebody else out there has a good passion and a beautiful collectors item.
I got a Winchester Mod 70 pre War just like yours! Mine is earlier, serial number is 3771, it was made in the 1937´s and the caliber is 30 GOV´T´06 i also stil have the original leather sling! it has any work on it !
I got a Winchester Mod 70 pre War just like yours! Mine is earlier, serial number is 3771, it was made in the 1937´s and the caliber is 30 GOV´T´06 i also still have the original leather sling! it has any work on it !
@wheelgunshooter , Sbccat is right. The term "pre-war" refers to a style with certain characteristics not a year. The pre war had a dolls head tang and different safety. among other things. The "transition" had a unique safety and characteristics from both the pre-war and the modern type III actions. Pre-wars were made until late 1946 in spite of events in Europe and the Pacific.
Nice looking rifle, BUT Model 70's don't have a shiny bolt handle. I have a Model 70 Super Express 458 win mag and the bolt handle is matt finished. Some refinishing was done on that rifle. You sound totally out of breath. LOL
I prefer the lighter/shorter pre-64 Featherweights. Afterall, we carry them far more than we shoot them. My 270 featherweight easily shoots MOA and smaller groups with handloads. The reduced barrel length (22") doesn't really hurt velocities too much. It shoots 130 grain bullets slightly over 3000 fps. I'd trade 50-100 fps for 2 lbs. every time in a hunting rifle. Iron sights look nice but are useless over 75-100 yards. The pre-64 "Gopher Specials" came without iron sights.
All the pre-64's came with iron sights. All rifles should come with iron sights. They look more complete and ready for the field. Marketing strategy makes it madatory to buy a scope with a new rifles.
The 24" medium weight barrel on the pre-64 model 70's is the ideal length for the 30-06, 270. The featherweight is slightly better for handling and carrying, but I prefer the heftiness, aiming ability and recoil with the heavier, longer barrel.
Maybe it is just the way the pictures look but, the finish on these bolt handles are supposed to be dull not shiny. The wood finish looks too smooth and flawless to be 65 years old. While the barrel and action look correct the bottom metal and bolt look reblued...too shiny. Overall, the looks are too inconsistent to be honest. It has a cloverleaf TANG not safety. Wrong swivels also make me wonder. It is still a nice shooter and a great gun. Ask a pro collector.
The standard rear sight is the 22G for that period. Granted some target rifles came with the Lyman but a standard, like this one is the 22G in the barrel boss. I still think it has been refinished by the darkish areas around the checkering. The flattened checkering doesn't match the flawless stock. The finish appears too smooth and shiny for a Winchester. The barrel and action are probably not refinished but, I say the bolt and bottom metal are reblued. Ask a pro. A real nice shooter
If you consult Roger Rule book "The Rifleman rifle" it clearly shows this configuation even to the inletting for the sight. I owned the gun since 1981,proof marks on stock and barrel match up, bolt serial number is correct. a reblued barrel would show striation marks from removing old finish. I have models that I bought new from the early 60s and the bluing looks the same, but who knows.Early Winchester were fire blued ,later chem blued.The clover leaf is correct for early and transition guns.
Sbccat, there are a few problems with your 70. It appears to have been reblued and refinished...hence the "prefect wood" and bolt knob. It has the wrong sling swivels and probably the wrong butt plate (hard to tell for sure, it looks like aluminum). It has been drilled and tapped on the rear bridge as noted. It is missing the front sight hood and rear sight (it should be in the dovetail on the barrel). It is still a great shooter. Pre-war 70s are difficult to find in original condition
I owned the gun since the early 80s, it does not have a aluminum butt plate and has not been reblued.You are totally wrong about the rear sight,it is correct and verified by Roger Rules book and is correct for a 1946 pre war model. yes it did not the hood , many people take them off when mounting a scope as thye will be visible through the scope.
I have one in 220 swift Super Grade the SN is 568 so was made in 1936 is in inmaculate conditions. I need to sell it. If you need picts and information please e-mail me at: e_echavez@hotmail.com.
Beautiful rifle!! I have a model 70 pre64 Super Grade, 30-06, that I purchased in 03. Checking on line, it's manu date is 1948. Like yours, mine is near mint condition.
I have just returned from from a whitetail hunt where I bagged a nice buck at just under 300yrds, shot 2 running coyotes (on different occasions) at 70 and 125yrds as well as finishing off my friends buck (running) at 150+ yrds 4 rounds, 4 kills. It is a wonderful rifle to shoot and hunt with.
I have one in 220 swift Super Grade the SN is 568 so was made in 1936 is in inmaculate conditions. Can you help me about how could be the value of this rifle?
You need to understand, it is the style.The gun was probably made with 1945 or eariler parts. Note the page in the book in the video,you will see the reference to "pre WAR" Type 1. Do a internet search also,type in Pre war model 70 winchester for more info.
Hope this clarifies thing. Roger rule book which I mentioned clarifies most things.
beautiful gun it begs to be shot
shaolingi22 2 months ago
You have a great rifle, I also have a '46 model. Unfortunatley it is NOT a pre war model. What you have is a transition model. WWII ended in 1945.
wheelgunshooter 1 year ago
It is a "prewar" model which were made through 1946. There are differenes between transition and prewar models. Consult Roger Rules book and check serial range as well. Most people think it has to be made before the war to pre war but it is actually a style and was made through 1946. The war ending in 1945 has nothing to do with the configuration which is "Pre War".
sbccat 1 year ago
@sbccat Beautiful rifle, as i have one myself. I am an owner of a solid pre 64 collection! Very beautiful rifle i must say again. I have the 30-06, .243, .220 swift, .264, and i have three .270s. Every rifle is just beautiful to look at. I have only bought three of the rilfes in my collection, the rest, my late grandfather passed down to me and its such an honor to be the owner of a great firearm. Glad to know somebody else out there has a good passion and a beautiful collectors item.
averylol 1 year ago
@sbccat
I got a Winchester Mod 70 pre War just like yours! Mine is earlier, serial number is 3771, it was made in the 1937´s and the caliber is 30 GOV´T´06 i also stil have the original leather sling! it has any work on it !
techapa 11 months ago
@sbccat
I got a Winchester Mod 70 pre War just like yours! Mine is earlier, serial number is 3771, it was made in the 1937´s and the caliber is 30 GOV´T´06 i also still have the original leather sling! it has any work on it !
techapa 11 months ago
@wheelgunshooter , Sbccat is right. The term "pre-war" refers to a style with certain characteristics not a year. The pre war had a dolls head tang and different safety. among other things. The "transition" had a unique safety and characteristics from both the pre-war and the modern type III actions. Pre-wars were made until late 1946 in spite of events in Europe and the Pacific.
SuperCalvin36 1 year ago
Nice looking rifle, BUT Model 70's don't have a shiny bolt handle. I have a Model 70 Super Express 458 win mag and the bolt handle is matt finished. Some refinishing was done on that rifle. You sound totally out of breath. LOL
BRR 1 year ago
I prefer the lighter/shorter pre-64 Featherweights. Afterall, we carry them far more than we shoot them. My 270 featherweight easily shoots MOA and smaller groups with handloads. The reduced barrel length (22") doesn't really hurt velocities too much. It shoots 130 grain bullets slightly over 3000 fps. I'd trade 50-100 fps for 2 lbs. every time in a hunting rifle. Iron sights look nice but are useless over 75-100 yards. The pre-64 "Gopher Specials" came without iron sights.
SuperCalvin36 1 year ago
I agree,all get heavy after awhile.
sbccat 1 year ago
All the pre-64's came with iron sights. All rifles should come with iron sights. They look more complete and ready for the field. Marketing strategy makes it madatory to buy a scope with a new rifles.
JIMBOSKI58 1 year ago
The 24" medium weight barrel on the pre-64 model 70's is the ideal length for the 30-06, 270. The featherweight is slightly better for handling and carrying, but I prefer the heftiness, aiming ability and recoil with the heavier, longer barrel.
JIMBOSKI58 1 year ago
Maybe it is just the way the pictures look but, the finish on these bolt handles are supposed to be dull not shiny. The wood finish looks too smooth and flawless to be 65 years old. While the barrel and action look correct the bottom metal and bolt look reblued...too shiny. Overall, the looks are too inconsistent to be honest. It has a cloverleaf TANG not safety. Wrong swivels also make me wonder. It is still a nice shooter and a great gun. Ask a pro collector.
SuperCalvin36 1 year ago
The standard rear sight is the 22G for that period. Granted some target rifles came with the Lyman but a standard, like this one is the 22G in the barrel boss. I still think it has been refinished by the darkish areas around the checkering. The flattened checkering doesn't match the flawless stock. The finish appears too smooth and shiny for a Winchester. The barrel and action are probably not refinished but, I say the bolt and bottom metal are reblued. Ask a pro. A real nice shooter
SuperCalvin36 1 year ago
If you consult Roger Rule book "The Rifleman rifle" it clearly shows this configuation even to the inletting for the sight. I owned the gun since 1981,proof marks on stock and barrel match up, bolt serial number is correct. a reblued barrel would show striation marks from removing old finish. I have models that I bought new from the early 60s and the bluing looks the same, but who knows.Early Winchester were fire blued ,later chem blued.The clover leaf is correct for early and transition guns.
sbccat 1 year ago
Sbccat, there are a few problems with your 70. It appears to have been reblued and refinished...hence the "prefect wood" and bolt knob. It has the wrong sling swivels and probably the wrong butt plate (hard to tell for sure, it looks like aluminum). It has been drilled and tapped on the rear bridge as noted. It is missing the front sight hood and rear sight (it should be in the dovetail on the barrel). It is still a great shooter. Pre-war 70s are difficult to find in original condition
SuperCalvin36 1 year ago
I owned the gun since the early 80s, it does not have a aluminum butt plate and has not been reblued.You are totally wrong about the rear sight,it is correct and verified by Roger Rules book and is correct for a 1946 pre war model. yes it did not the hood , many people take them off when mounting a scope as thye will be visible through the scope.
sbccat 1 year ago
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Very Nice Rifle!
I have one in 220 swift Super Grade the SN is 568 so was made in 1936 is in inmaculate conditions. I need to sell it. If you need picts and information please e-mail me at: e_echavez@hotmail.com.
kikembemotombo 1 year ago
Beautiful rifle!! I have a model 70 pre64 Super Grade, 30-06, that I purchased in 03. Checking on line, it's manu date is 1948. Like yours, mine is near mint condition.
I have just returned from from a whitetail hunt where I bagged a nice buck at just under 300yrds, shot 2 running coyotes (on different occasions) at 70 and 125yrds as well as finishing off my friends buck (running) at 150+ yrds 4 rounds, 4 kills. It is a wonderful rifle to shoot and hunt with.
canqpiper 2 years ago
Those older Model 70s have the best wood but all are great!! I have owned one for the 45 years.
Take care, happy shooting!!!
sbccat 2 years ago
@canqpiper
I have one in 220 swift Super Grade the SN is 568 so was made in 1936 is in inmaculate conditions. Can you help me about how could be the value of this rifle?
kikembemotombo 1 year ago
You need to understand, it is the style.The gun was probably made with 1945 or eariler parts. Note the page in the book in the video,you will see the reference to "pre WAR" Type 1. Do a internet search also,type in Pre war model 70 winchester for more info.
Hope this clarifies thing. Roger rule book which I mentioned clarifies most things.
sbccat 2 years ago
Thanks for explaining that mate.
MikeAppleTree 2 years ago
No problem, MIKE!! Great gun with a lot of history. This pre war style was the first of Model 70 and were made from 1936 till 1947.
sbccat 2 years ago
1946 pre war? What war are you talking about? The Second World War officially finished in 45. Lovely looking rifle though. Happy hunting.
MikeAppleTree 2 years ago