@Schockokekschen Ps. The main problem/challenge seem to be that since the biblical god is supposed to be the moral giver, he can get away with any immoral behaviour/contradiction himself. And no Christian would ever dare to blame him because of hellish consequenses. "For God so loved the world ..."
hey shawn love your videos bro! Keep up the good work, and dont let people bring you down with all their negative comments. Just remember matthew 5:10-12 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
@VenomFangX *this will be a very dumb question* Soo I've broken God's Laws in the past/done some other bad things...I can still be saved from the eternal fire of hell as long as I accept Jesus as my saviour, follow the laws of God and go by Jesus's teachings?
@MoonwalkerWorshiper According to us Christians is not just some text, it is the record of the only way a person could be saved...and it is all finished and free. I used to think the Bible was just fake encouragement for dying old people....I can say now that I was ignorant and foolish.
Excellent and uplifting as usual, Shawn! You have a way of illustrating concepts in the Bible that I find difficult to understand so it makes it much easier for me! Thank you! God bless, and I'm sure the good Lord is pleased.
How can you be telling atheists that God is Love, and then tell them they will be burned for ever by this God of Love for a finite life that is just a vapor.
That is not Love. Why force people to exist that do not want to exist.
This teaching justifies the atheist when they say God is hate filled. I do not blame them for rejecting a God that would do such a thing.
On top of this, the Bible does not preach this. Ezekiel 26:21 & 28:18-19 Malachi 4:1-3
@OnTheRoadHome Its not so much that God does not love you or that He wont welcome you with open arms If He could. But He will not and cannot be amongst the unholy. He cannot dwell amongst what is unclean. The human being is a defiled and unholy creature. God will not break the Law no matter how much He loves us He will not tolerate, even the smallest misstep. Justified in one of His closest friends. Moses. Can't argue moses did lots of good. but it only took one tiny step insignificant to us..
@OnTheRoadHome but very big to God. costing him something very very valuable and very dear to his forefathers. It's not that He will kill us rather we can't be a part of Him therefore if are not for Him we are against Him and we die. He takes no pleasure in the death of the unjust. His own words.
hell sounds like total freedom from an unjust god, perhaps it's not such a bad place. Heaven sounds horrible though complete obedience and slaves to a master who disapproves of his own creation. not that I believe in any of that mythology.
I don't understand 6:32, how can a person simply decide to believe something? Belief is not a conscious decision, I can't simply decide to believe that rocks are alive at a whim when all my logic tells me otherwise. What kind of system is it, that some arbitrary belief that you have no control over decides your eternal fate? Not trying to be insulting, it just makes no sense to me how that seems logical to people.
@tipoomaster that's why it's caled "faith". I didn't get it either at first but I did research on what I was claiming was my religion. I wanted to know what was the proof that there was a savior and from what I've found out I can say it is possible there was a Jesus. But in the end it's you choice:) I would rather die believing in God and find out that there isn't one than to not have God then find out that there was.
@GuitarGIRLXP That is one way of viewing it (Pascal's Wager), but it is not 100% correct, because you assume that there is either a Christian God, or there is not. Just 2 options. You are ignoring the 3rd option of there being instead a Muslim God, or the 4th option of there being a Jewish God, and so on and so forth for an infinite number of Gods. Your chances of being right are infinitely small. The possibility of there being a God that lets only athiests into his heaven is just as likely :).
@Ademisk good point, I do believe in just one God and that is the christian God. I believe in having morals just like George Washington said we should in his fair well address. I heard a story of a boy who's father said, "Don't touch the furnace because it's hot." the little boy believed his father but his curiousity got him to actually touch it, he burned his hand and is now convinced his father told the truth. I am like that little boy and that burn was Gods love.
@GuitarGIRLXP Well, morals are not dependent on there being a God or not, so we can all be moral regardless of our belief :). As for your story, are you saying that suffering brings you closer to God?
@Ademisk Well the belief that there is no God gives access to the belief there is no right or wrong, we decide what's right and wrong. God is the one who gave us these laws. If the bible is false that means there's no such thing as sin, and there's nothing wrong with murder and there's no limit to our sexual enjoyment. As for my story, I was stating that I have exerienced the holy spirit, but it's also true that if it takes a crisis for you to seek God, he will allow it.
@GuitarGIRLXP Well, of course murder is wrong, but that is not simply because some higher being told us so. There are plenty of negative consequences like fines, going to jail, or being put on death row, and these are successful enough to prevent the majority of the population from doing it. Since atheists don't believe in God or absolute morals, shouldn't they all be out murdering and raping since there are no penalties for it? Since this is not the case, what then could be holding them back?
@Ademisk We have consequences because we know it's wrong. God gave us a conscience. At times man kind doesn't belive in God because they don't want to. If there is a God that would mean there is someone in control, and that means there are rules, that tends to scare people. It's normal to have doubts but we shouldn't throw in the towel.
@GuitarGIRLXP Why do you believe in a God that exists for everyone, rather than not believe. I know you believe in Him because of personal experience, but why do you think that applies to the rest of us?
@Ademisk Because what if there was a God? I know you probably hear that alot but just what if? I see the world and I investigate on my religion and on other religions, I want to know what I'm getting myself into and I do believe there is a God and if there is then the bible is true and I believe there's nothing more important then where we go when we die...what if there was a hell? If there was one I would want to know. It would be selfish for a christian to keep salvation to themselves
@GuitarGIRLXP But then we come back to the step where we still don't know which 1 of the infinite amount of Gods exist, so by sheer probability alone, you are almost 100% likely to be wrong anyway. Heck, there might be that God that lets you into his heaven for you just being yourself, without following any religion. When it comes down to it, they are all equiprobably. I'm just curious as to what your reasoning is to picking this particular one amongst the many.
@Ademisk It would take a long time to explain why amongst the many I only believe in the christian God, but one reason is because many other religions have seemed to just slowly come about, as if made up. Also because the bible is the one book that predicts the future like no other. Last, because of my personal experience with faith.
@GuitarGIRLXP What are your thoughts about the claim that Christian lore was cobbled together out of parts of other religions? What do you think about Norse, Roman, Greek, and Egyptian mythology/religion, which have had much earlier starts than Christianity, and are thus more original, and I would say, have a smaller chance of being made up? What has the bible predicted so far that came true, and to what degree of detail was this prediction made, and to what degree was it correct?
@Ademisk The bible does predict a money crisis in revelations 13:16-17, and it mentions rumors of war, like a world war 3. The claim that christianity was brought together by other religions? Not true, christianity came about with the arrival of Jesus Christ. How can we assume he actually existed? Well I never met Julias Cesar but I know he existed because scriptures say so and because he was an actual man in the flesh.
@GuitarGIRLXP You mean the mark of the beast and all that stuff? And WW3? Thats all in the future. So you're saying you believe because of the things that may happen but have not yet? And you say that the bible only provides 'rumors', and a prophecized money crisis? Those are so vague, that this alone would discard those predictions as useless. On top of that, money crisis and and wars are sooooooo common that anyone, literally anyone, could predict them and be proven true within some 50 years.
@GuitarGIRLXP cont'd. Wars happen literally every 10 or so years, in some part of the world, of some level of severity, and almost anything can be considered a 'money crisis' by someone. Economists and political scientists make much more specific, and accurate, predictions all the time on these topics, would you believe them to be prophets and/or deities? Also, I didn't mean that Christianity was created from other religions, but that it took parts of other religions, like the resurrection.
@GuitarGIRLXP And as for the historical aspect, Julias Caesar is mentioned in many more books than Jesus, along with his accomplishments. There are also physical remnants of his existence, like the effects he had on his empire. The thing about the Bible that makes it a poor source of history on its own is that it has such a high content of 'miracles', that are not chronicled anywhere else, or experienced in real life, or even found proof of their after-effects.
If there was a God, he'd know if we were just deceiving him to get into heaven. Obviously he wouldn't allow anyone to get into heaven by just wishful thinking or last minute conversion... Pascals Wager doesnt work...DOESNT WORK! no, you stop using it to think your right. cos no! your wrong
@skormz10 Of course he would, some people do think they can decieve him and others don't. I know that God can look at what's in my heart, he even says so in the bible. I don't really have wishful thinking, I believe with all my heart there is a God, therefore I just have faith.
@GuitarGIRLXP just to ease your curiosity there is no doubt, between atheist and believer Jesus did walk the earth. The romans have/ had a record and so does josephus a jewish scribe.
@JtizzleOhara I'm not being arrogant. It's called being sure. As to how you come to the "arrogant" assessment is anyone's guess.
You also said I'm being willfully ignorant because I ignore the evidence and go on faith? What evidence you silly person. You think you can actually provide "evidence" that there is no God? You can't. No one can, try as they might. So drop your nasty attitude.
God wouldn't tell me to kill someone. LOL How on earth do you people get those ideas? Watching too much TV?
@10com40cal God wouldn't tell you to kill someone?
Thats interesting because he does it all the time in the bible, so i'll ask you again if god told you to kill someone, as he did in the bible, would you.
@JtizzleOhara If God told me to kill someone and absolutely revealed Himself to me and I had absolutely no question it was Him, I'd do whatever He asked.
But being as God wouldn't reveal Himself to me for such a lowly reason, your question is merely that of a simpleton. If you feel you can condense and sum up someone's faith by such a simple question you really are a simpleton.
You think you can manage to reveal the truth of God with such a foolish premise but you've come to this battle unarmed.
venom... it seems so hopeless to argue with you and to attempt to impress upon you that your world view is biased and does not embrace reality. Even after all of this time you still haven't begun to realize that you have all of your work ahead of you. I would suggest some long sessions with a scientist so that you begin to understand science. I would also suggest some time with a therapist so that you may begin to understand yourself and how you relate to the world better.
@SixtySeventh I'm not saying God made it inevitable for us to sin. I'm saying only Jesus didn't sin. What has God asked of us but to walk humbly with Him, to love Him, our Father, our Creator. Is this grievous? Or are we stiff-necked and refuse humility, refuse to love Him who loves us more than anything. Do we bear the scars of loving Him as He bears the scars of loving us? No, we don't.
Turning away from Him and His love is sin in and of itself.
Why would I love someting that I can't see, feel or hear? Oh, yeah, he did, 2000 years ago, when mentally demented people were not yet recognized, and brain chemistry was an unknown to us.
For all I know, this is how it went down: The old testament was written, they predicted Jesus, right? Either Jesus himself was a skilled illusionist/mentally ill person who said himself to be God and defied the norms of religion by doing that, or Jesus is a fictional character used to enhance the prophecy.
@SixtySeventh You haven't read much of the first 4 books of the New Testament, have you?
You want to call Jesus mentally demented and applaud your supposed knowledge of brain chemistry OVER what Jesus said and did, go ahead.
You want to believe that Jesus pulled off some kind of hoax, go ahead. But I seriously think you know that what He did was in no way a hoax, it would be completely and entirely impossible for anyone, much less a mentally ill person to do what He did or say what He said.
Well, have you considered the version that he never existed in the first place? That he was only a fictional character created ONLY to serve and fulfill the prophecys of the old testament?
No, you probably haven't. Because you are probably like most religious people; you make up your mind first and then you start look for and handpick whatever "evidence" that fits your already made up mind and theory. Which is BS, really. Look at the facts and then make up your mind. Not vice versa.
@SixtySeventh No, I never considered that Jesus never existed when He was said to have existed. What I also never considered was that He was alive, not dead. So in all that time, I rarely if ever thought about Him. Nothing in my life was about Him, ever. The fact that I believed He existed at one time meant nothing to me. I couldn't put 2 and 2 together, for some reason. God hadn't revealed to me who Jesus was.
It wasn't until Jesus was revealed to me, that He was alive, that everything changed.
@SixtySeventh cont'd: Basically, I guess I was one of those who needed evidence first. Not really to my credit but each person is different.
You saying I'm "religious" - nothing could be further from the truth. I cannot stand religiosity. Which works out well because Jesus didn't like it either, not then, not now. He spoke against it consistently. Religion is other people making rules and using moral authority which they don't have in order to control people. Pharisees back then, pharisees now.
Let me put it this way, there is as little evidence of jesus existence outside of the Bible as there is for Frodo outside The Lord of the Rings, yet you choose to blindly believe that he was real. It doesn't make any sense. Are you truly that weak minded?
What reason do you have to believe that Jesus walked this earth? (Othert than the Bible, since that book is not proof, nor evidence, it's just a book which could've been written by man alone in order to control peoples morality.)
@SixtySeventh I'm being sincere and open here with you, but your best response is that I'm weak-minded.
So suffice it to say, I've been given evidence that Jesus not only existed, but that He exists and He is the Lord and that He is Love.
His existence is not in question for me. It's amazing that you would think Jesus would give nothing at all in the way of evidence. THAT would be blind faith, which is not what I have.
@10com40cal What is this evidence you speak of? I don't mean to jump in rudely, but I keep seeing people say this as defense, and yet never be able to back it up. And no citing the bible in any way, shape, or form. It is simply a book.
@Ademisk You think the Bible is "simply a book". Have you ever read a book? I'm not trying to be rude either, but trying to point out that when you read books, you get something from them, don't you? Either you know the writings in a book are false or they're correct or they're nothing to you and you're indifferent. I believe the Bible is the Word of God. I read it for myself and my advice is you do the same. See what you get from it.
Evidence. Meeting someone is evidence they exist, isn't it?
@10com40cal Yes, I get many different impressions from reading many different books, and they each make me feel a variety of feelings. Admittedly, I have not read the bible start to end at any time, I would say I have read 80-90% though, and from a literary perspective, it didn't strike all that interesting or even consistent, if you try to take things literally. It holds up better under the genre of "fiction", but I know this is not what you wanted me to say. I dont see your point in this sense
@Ademisk When I suggested you read the Bible and see what you get from it, I wasn't expecting you to say anything in particular. Like I said, I read it for myself. I started with the 4 gospels in the New Testament (1st 4 books). I got several answers to some questions I had. Not every scripture at that time spoke to me, but the answers I got sparked faith in me, faith that God was listening to me, and speaking to me personally.
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. Romans 10:17
@10com40cal You haven't yet provided any evidence which you claim exists. You simply stated that it made you feel a certain way. Other books have the power to do the same, and to a much greater effect. Name me a feeling, and I will name you a book that does it better, on the condition that you go into it expecting a story, not already 'knowing' that it is true, which is bias. So far, your evidence comes down to "I believe the Bible is the Word of God". I believe it is only a book. Now what?
@Ademisk I'm sorry but it seems every atheist I've interacted with always demands evidence that God exists. It's unclear to me why this always seems to be among the 1st arguments or questions they have. How can you or any atheist even come to the conclusion that evidence given by man is evidence you'll go by? I don't believe you or anyone would do that. I sure wouldn't. God Himself would have to give me evidence of His existence. It's up to Him to give it to someone who sincerely asks of Him.
@10com40cal Right. But since he hasn't given it to me personally, the best that I can hope for is that someone else will in his stead. Isn't it odd that God will only give evidence to someone who already believes in him, but not to someone who doesn't, when that someone who doesn't is the one that really needs it? If evidence is to support that belief, it must precede the belief, or else that belief is still baseless and imaginary. I can't ask santa claus to prove himself, since there is no...
@Ademisk That's not completely true, that God only gives evidence to someone who already believes in Him. Why would they need evidence if they already believe. In my case, what I thought was my belief in God ended up being empty, because I didn't know who God was. Which is the most important part of real faith - knowing who He is. Without that, there can be no real faith.
Besides people I've known, C.S. Lewis comes to mind. He didn't believe at all til he was overtaken by God's presence.
@10com40cal "Him to give it to someone who sincerely asks of Him." I took this literally, where you said I should sincerely ask it of him. But there is only a 'Him' if you already believe in Him. There is no 'Him' to me as my beliefs currently stand. There is just nothing, a blank space. Obviously I can't talk to a blank space. Out of curiosity, do you believe that all atheists/agnostics are just rebelling against God but still know he is there? Not to single you out, but that is the impression
@SixtySeventh No, it wasn't me that said you are judged for what Adam and Eve themselves did. Nor do I use phrases like "original sin". You won't find that phrase in the Bible. Honestly speaking, I myself don't care whether man was born with a sinful nature or not. It's neither here nor there as far as salvation by Jesus is concerned. What IS clear is that no one ever goes through life without sin of some sort.
Forms of theology don't impress me and certainly won't enslave me. Nor should it you.
@SixtySeventh You're not judged for what someone else did. You're judged for your own sin. And what then, will you say you have no sin? That you are pure and holy?
God is pure and holy. How will you approach Him (assuming you would one day want to) if you are not made pure and holy? How will you, who are unrighteous, approach a righteous God and stand before Him without fear? Without judgment? With nothing other than knowing you are loved by Him? No fear, no judgment, just love and purity?
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
James 2
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg.
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg. Is it wrong?
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg. Is it wrong?
@shirlcare Yes! I'm just as guilty and would like to resolve our spat. We have shown ourselves to be capable of reasoning. LOL at the things we said to each other, and we're not even married xD
@shirlcare But you have to realize that when you send a hate message to a stranger who's never heard of you before, they might believe you to be a psychotic.
How do you know it's thou shalt not kill referring to humans? It only says, "Thou shalt not kill". So anyone that has killed anything that is alive has broken a commandment. How does any God follower answer that?
I am pleased to see that you have not disabled comments on this channel. I also hope that your time in school is used to learn and not only attempt to teach. Humility is one of the greatest challenges for all Christians, that includes me, and you. Enjoy your learning.
Also, Deuteronomy, the book that contains the laws and the 10 commandments, was allegedly "discovered" by one of Josiah's high priests during Josiah's reign. This book is highly regarded as a forgery.
I would argue morality is socially constructed, with evidence that Feral Children, human beings that are raised in the wild, absent of social interaction. Feral Children have no sense between right and wrong. Not only does this mean that there is no such thing as a foundation of morals that effect every human being, but it also suggests morality is socially constructed.
@MrAmputechture I think it actually proves what the Bible teaches, that we are born with a sin nature that is morally bankrupt and we need to be taught right and wrong.
@VenomFangX Isn't that equivalent to saying that all animals are constantly sinning, too, seeing that humans without social influence are basically animals? If a sin is an immoral act, how is it possible to sin without a sense of right and wrong? Morality has to come before sin.
@MrAmputechture Animals do not have the ability to reason. Morality is using right reason to deny or indulge ones instincts and appetites when it is appropriate to do so according to God's standard. Animals neither have an awareness of God, His standard, or an ability to reason between what is right or wrong, and thus, can not sin.
@VenomFangX Can the same thing not be said about feral humans? The point I am making is that our morality and our ability to "sin" is not ingrained into us but learned through social interaction- Cultural Relativism.
"What is morality in any given time or place? It is what the majority then and there happen to like, and immorality is what they dislike." - Alfred Whitehead (Christian)
@VenomFangX consider this scenario: you invent a time machine that allows you to go back to the birth of Adolf Hitler: You can kill baby Hitler and thus save the lives of millions- Or you can refuse commit infanticide and let millions die- Would either option be the morally correct one? Do yu still think there is absolute morality in this case?
Respond to this video..."Animals neither have an awareness of God, His standard, or an ability to reason between what is right or wrong, and thus, can not sin." so how could Adam and Eve have sinned? According to the story, they had no knowledge of good and evil until after they ate the forbidden fruit- And thus are as blameless as animals
@hexum7 Adam and Eve had both reason and an understanding that God had commanded them not to disobey. They knew it was "wrong" to disobey God, though they perhaps didn't know why. Through disobedience they were separated from God, because God can not have fellowship with willful disobedience to Himself. Ignorance of the law is no excuse they say, and Adam and Eve were not ignorant, because they received the commandment.
@VenomFangX But here you reading things to the story that are not supported by the text: which is probably blasphemous.... but anyway, Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil-- That is what the knowledge of good and evil implies- And why would god not want man to have knowlegde of good?
@hexum7 The "knowledge of good AND evil" is the knowledge of both. Before the fall, there was no distinction because evil did not exist. Since evil did not exist, there was nothing to contrast good with, and so everything "just was", though it was the best possible. The problem is that because evil did not exist and because Adam and Eve had optimal conditions, they had nothing to contrast their perfection with and thus did not fully appreciate the world God made for them.
@VenomFangX Then you aree that dam and Eve had no reference to determine what action was good and what was bad- They could not have had any conception of whether it was evil to is obey god. therefor, they were blameless. The fact is, the serpent was right- God sold not have kept from them the knowledge of good and evil- because that knowledge is necessary for humans to choose what actions they take. personally, I think the whole story is a metaphor - but that's a different subject
@InfiniteTurtles Moral coercion would have robbed them of free will; they knew God had given them life and everything they enjoyed, so the choice to remain in fellowship with Him in obedience, or disobey and depart from God, was truly free of all coercion. It was a choice based on a love and loyalty, not good and evil. They knew disobeying God would result in death, as God told them, and they chose to disobey and suffer the consequences.
@VenomFangX Shaun, do you agree that morality, regardless of the finer components it may be composed of, is something that everyone possesses? It may be twisted and evil in our eyes, but it is still a set of morals that they follow. As such, I argue that if everyone has morals, and there is only one objective set of morals, then there can be no way that they don't already know this set of morals, and as such, don't need to be taught them. These morals would be then self-evident.
@Ademisk Everyone has a conscience, but since we are born with a sin nature, we tend to ignore it and indulge in sinful passions. It is because morals are self-evidence, as you say, that the Bible says all men are without excuse for doing evil, which everyone is guilty of. That is why we need Jesus Christ.
@VenomFangX C'mon Shawn, thats a cop out. I thought we could have a rational discussion without you deviating to one of your lines. Regardless of what the bible says, people still have different sets of morals, and they don't have to be evil, they could just be from different cultures. And these moral standards are something they are completely satisfied with. You're right that they need to be 'taught' morals, your morals. If morals were objective, they wouldn't have to be taught, yet they are.
@VenomFangX But Shawn, isn't that just admitting that there being to absolute and objective moral values, since if they were absolute and objective, they wouldn't have to be taught?
@Ademisk There is nothing in the idea of objective morality that follows that we wouldn't have to teach people about it. The point is, even if everyone is ignorant of it, objective morality would still exist; that's why it is objective. It is not dependent on human knowledge or awareness.
Decent gospel message. But I'm a Calvinist. Too many Christians treat John 3:16 like it's the only verse in the Bible. The same Jesus in John 3:16 also said He is not praying for the world but for the ones the Father has given Him (John 17:9). You guys should read John 6:37-44. Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11, 14-15), the sheep are separated from the goats (Mt 25).
@MJOLNIRVII The logical end result of calvinism remains that God is the author of sin. No matter how many ludicrous brain raids calvinists try to make, no matter how badly they cite scripture, no matter how hard they try to philosophize the doctrine of double predestination as something wholesome and holy, the end result still remains the same: God is the author of sin. Which immediately makes calvinism a horrendous ideology.
The Ten Commandments are not located in Exodus 20, despite what the subtitles of the study Bibles say. Exodus 34:28 declares that Exodus 34 is the covenant of the Ten Commandments.
Know God? So you want us to have sex with him/her/it/trans gender? That would be a bit challenging because you can't have sex with an imaginary being.
Yes, there is point, even if they are "just" ideas. Guess what? You're entire worldview is "just ideas" your entire perception of reality is "just ideas".
Ideas that affect the way we live.
One needs no more axioms than a basic desire to live pleasantly for a system of morality to rise.
@TheHigherVoltage You never knew Him, and yes, really. Not at the hand of" Christains", more of satans counterfiet. He leaves his signature on his work. Murder, Suicide, Pedophilia, Abuse, Immorality, Idolitry, Hatred, Worship of Man, Self, Money, Humanism cloaked in religion. The absence of Christ, or Who He IS, or the absolute Power of His Blood for Redemption of Man, deception. Recognize anyone? All or part will alway be there like fingerprints at a Crime Scene. All in the name of Christian
@luettem so there's no true Christians but who you judge Christians. Got ya. Didn't see that one coming either.
The difference between ignorant and normal people :
Normal people read the bible, notice 1000s of contradictions, immoral instructions passed off as morality, and notice the skitzophrenic, pagan-based doctrines.
While the ignorant read the bible and say "oh ya, God's perfect and infallible word".
You're nuts. You're a walking definition of evil demanding it's good.
@TheHigherVoltage That's her outlook. Human beings are nothing but mere puppets in a grand cosmic scheme. Humans are worthless. And it's so much easier to vilify people when you deem them worthless.
@TheHigherVoltage Case in point: all those jews slaughtered in the Holocaust? That was all God's plan, so that Miss Luettem and her fellow chosen ones could attain salvation. And as these jews went to their death without accepting Christ as their lord and savior, they are, according to such lovely God-fearing folk as Luettum, bound to go to hell as well.
I've watched Demon on my Shoulder... I'm not impressed. Reptillians... seriously? A photograph of a demon? Looks more like the back of a female head. Luckily, another demon was caught on tape while Michael Jackson was doin' his thang, and it's as convincing as the aforementioned one... In short: fear. Yet again.
@FujiwaraNoGo Everything you just wrote has been debunked many times over.....now if you prefer to sound rediculous continue, I dont have the time. watch chuck missler to see how pitiful what you just wrote really is, as to the rest of your problems.....spelling is the least of them. Get right, or get left behind, and you dont have much time
@FujiwaraNoGo Considering you read all my posts, they are to "whoever" is lost and finds them. As to Why God didnt reveal Himself to all of us? HE DID, in Fact He Himself Walked the Earth, and was killed by man. and Still today, rather then recognizing their creator, they prefer ANY OTHER IDEA, rather then God. What was revealed is not God to "that" individual" on the video Demon on my Shoulder, but the demonic forces that has desuaded you from God-Very Real, True and you still cant watch it, ?
@FujiwaraNoGo Your lack of understanding, and inability to rightly divide the Word will leave you dead. The inaccuracies you think you 'know' are not accurate..thus again, end result will be death. I told you to Watch Demon On My Shoulder-you could not, and I told you why. the 'why' is truth, and your deception is honestly pitiful. Watch Divine Origins of the Scripture, Chuck Missler, just for a tiny start at what you DONT have a clue about...but you really dont have much time sadly, get right
John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. Acts 3:19
Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out 2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
@PhobicOne Don't put words in quotes that I didn't say. Those are your words, not mine. Don't attribute your inept use of language to me.
I'm glad for you that you know exactly how God should act and be and think and do. And that you think God is not worthy of you. Very interesting way of thinking, but hey, whatever floats your boat. You have free will to believe or not to believe.
@10com40cal I know nothing of how a god should act, but I do know how the biblical god appears to act - not well. According to how he acts in the bible noone should honestly believe that they are lower than such a virulent, hateful, sectarian, brutal, evil person. It'd be like prostrating yourself to Hitler.
@majinhiei7 Lordship Salvation means that when one is saved, he repents of his sins and allows Jesus to become Lord of his life, as demonstrated by progressive sanctification.
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The apposing view is free grace, which teaches that one need only have faith in Jesus as savior, but not Lord, thus one can be saved without any real change in his life. This side usually accuses the other as works based salvation.
@JesusforLife2 So basically lordship salvation says you MUST repent of your sins sins and believe in Jesus to be saved. Can you provide me scripture that supports this claim?
@SixtySeventh No, there's absolutely nothing illogical about God and His ways. *You're* illogical because you simply don't like His ways. When He made the earth and all that's in it, man blew it. And THAT'S where you get the killing, the lust, the stealing, the lying, the worship of everything other than Him. From MAN. So put the blame where it lays, on man. We're unworthy of all He's given us, everything He's made for us. We fall so short, we don't even know how to account for all we do.
@10com40cal@10com40cal I love how you just said theres nothing illogical about god, an invisible man who's need for you to believe in him is so strong that he sends you to eternal suffering if you don't, and yet gives you no evidence to believe in it.
Also your just stating your own unproven, unverifiable opinions, and then treating them as if they are fact.
@Jti God is self-sufficient, he needs nothing. He commands you to repent and believe. Saying there is no evidence is not a logical statement for it presupposes the very thing you are arguing against - Theism. For it requires omniscience to know every piece of evidence for God's existence. He also has given us overwhelming circumstantial evidence such as 100% prophetic fullfillment. "..unproven, unverifiable opinions, and then treating them as if they are fact." sounds like atheism.
Great video
gweems828 6 months ago
@Schockokekschen Ps. The main problem/challenge seem to be that since the biblical god is supposed to be the moral giver, he can get away with any immoral behaviour/contradiction himself. And no Christian would ever dare to blame him because of hellish consequenses. "For God so loved the world ..."
Toggen62 6 months ago
@Schockokekschen Agree!
Toggen62 6 months ago
Shalom!
ChrYssbulanu 7 months ago
Thank you for this great video!
Keep walking in the path of God.
petrichanin 9 months ago
hey shawn love your videos bro! Keep up the good work, and dont let people bring you down with all their negative comments. Just remember matthew 5:10-12 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
YoungWerro 11 months ago
@VenomFangX *this will be a very dumb question* Soo I've broken God's Laws in the past/done some other bad things...I can still be saved from the eternal fire of hell as long as I accept Jesus as my saviour, follow the laws of God and go by Jesus's teachings?
XGailoftheblackArtX 1 year ago
@XGailoftheblackArtX anybody can be saved...no matter what they have done in the past
Pyro7502 3 months ago
I miss @pyrrho314 :( ~ he'll b bck ~ guaranteed :)
TJae1 1 year ago
ask @pyrrho314 @violetkitty411 @jezuzfreek777 ~
TJae1 1 year ago
Thank you for the truth brother you have opened my eyes and motivated me in to making my own youtube videos!
LordIsAlmighty 1 year ago
THE LEYEND VENOMFANGX HAS RETURN, WELCOME BACK BRO!!!! DO U KNOW THE NAVIGATORS MINISTRY??
AthiousEnforce 1 year ago
I keep getting told to put my trust in Jesus but I know little of what that means or how one does so.
MoonwalkerWorshiper 1 year ago
@MoonwalkerWorshiper read the New Testament...
Pyro7502 3 months ago
@Pyro7502 How is reading some text gonna change ones life?
MoonwalkerWorshiper 3 months ago
@MoonwalkerWorshiper According to us Christians is not just some text, it is the record of the only way a person could be saved...and it is all finished and free. I used to think the Bible was just fake encouragement for dying old people....I can say now that I was ignorant and foolish.
Pyro7502 3 months ago
@Pyro7502 What do I need to be saved from? God wouldn't need to save me from anything if He's ahead of me.
MoonwalkerWorshiper 3 months ago
wow this is just so encouraging to me. Thankyou very much.
ducktape775 1 year ago
@jasonchuu ...and he is watching o_o!
jasonchuu 1 year ago
Evil arises in our minds because we were born in sin! Formed literally in the womb of sin Psalms.
TheLuotutin 1 year ago
Excellent and uplifting as usual, Shawn! You have a way of illustrating concepts in the Bible that I find difficult to understand so it makes it much easier for me! Thank you! God bless, and I'm sure the good Lord is pleased.
8CaptainHowdy 1 year ago
@8CaptainHowdy I'm glad you enjoyed the video, God bless you too!
VenomFangX 1 year ago
Hello. Great message!! Thank you for coming back!! We need good preachers here. I love you!! You're a wonderful man!! God bless you!!!
healthnbeauty1 1 year ago
Amen! :D
u2bie1989 1 year ago
amen. :)
stickynotezz 1 year ago
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Shake off the haters, VenomFangX! You are the man, I've been watching you since the beginning!
martinpashku 1 year ago
@martinpashku Thanks man, that's encouraging :) Cheers.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@martinpashku I've been watching him before he even "began", can't touch hipster chirstian!
lnmylife 11 months ago
Keep it up, brother!
dudewat212 1 year ago
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aditzzaaa 1 year ago
AMEN BROTHER...GOD BLESS*
7KEDDY7 1 year ago
How can you be telling atheists that God is Love, and then tell them they will be burned for ever by this God of Love for a finite life that is just a vapor.
That is not Love. Why force people to exist that do not want to exist.
This teaching justifies the atheist when they say God is hate filled. I do not blame them for rejecting a God that would do such a thing.
On top of this, the Bible does not preach this. Ezekiel 26:21 & 28:18-19 Malachi 4:1-3
Choose this day Life or Death...
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
It is life or death, not life with God in joy, or LIFE with out God in pain.
The serpent is the one that said we shall NOT surely die.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
@OnTheRoadHome Its not so much that God does not love you or that He wont welcome you with open arms If He could. But He will not and cannot be amongst the unholy. He cannot dwell amongst what is unclean. The human being is a defiled and unholy creature. God will not break the Law no matter how much He loves us He will not tolerate, even the smallest misstep. Justified in one of His closest friends. Moses. Can't argue moses did lots of good. but it only took one tiny step insignificant to us..
deltaalphacharlie 1 year ago
This has nothing to do with what I was talking about or this video for that matter.
There is no such thing as an eternal hell where people burn forever.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
@OnTheRoadHome watch his video called "who created God? where did god come from? Proof of God". Think again.
MissKatRob 1 year ago
I know God exists. With out a doubt.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
@OnTheRoadHome AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD
LBGuitarMaan 1 year ago
@OnTheRoadHome
AMEN!!!
healthnbeauty1 11 months ago
@OnTheRoadHome but very big to God. costing him something very very valuable and very dear to his forefathers. It's not that He will kill us rather we can't be a part of Him therefore if are not for Him we are against Him and we die. He takes no pleasure in the death of the unjust. His own words.
deltaalphacharlie 1 year ago
I assume you misunderstood the comment.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
@OnTheRoadHome i suppose i did. perhaps i missed something apologize for any misreading or miscomment etc.
deltaalphacharlie 1 year ago
No problem.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
We all go to hell when we die.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
Hell is just the grave. Acts 2:27-34 David is still in hell.
OnTheRoadHome 1 year ago
really amazing.
cant believe some of the things i'm realizing.
Darksaiyn101 1 year ago
great tube shaun
Laras420 1 year ago
hell sounds like total freedom from an unjust god, perhaps it's not such a bad place. Heaven sounds horrible though complete obedience and slaves to a master who disapproves of his own creation. not that I believe in any of that mythology.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 year ago
Alienation is freedom.
brokennarcissist 1 year ago
I don't understand 6:32, how can a person simply decide to believe something? Belief is not a conscious decision, I can't simply decide to believe that rocks are alive at a whim when all my logic tells me otherwise. What kind of system is it, that some arbitrary belief that you have no control over decides your eternal fate? Not trying to be insulting, it just makes no sense to me how that seems logical to people.
tipoomaster 1 year ago
@tipoomaster that's why it's caled "faith". I didn't get it either at first but I did research on what I was claiming was my religion. I wanted to know what was the proof that there was a savior and from what I've found out I can say it is possible there was a Jesus. But in the end it's you choice:) I would rather die believing in God and find out that there isn't one than to not have God then find out that there was.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP That is one way of viewing it (Pascal's Wager), but it is not 100% correct, because you assume that there is either a Christian God, or there is not. Just 2 options. You are ignoring the 3rd option of there being instead a Muslim God, or the 4th option of there being a Jewish God, and so on and so forth for an infinite number of Gods. Your chances of being right are infinitely small. The possibility of there being a God that lets only athiests into his heaven is just as likely :).
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk good point, I do believe in just one God and that is the christian God. I believe in having morals just like George Washington said we should in his fair well address. I heard a story of a boy who's father said, "Don't touch the furnace because it's hot." the little boy believed his father but his curiousity got him to actually touch it, he burned his hand and is now convinced his father told the truth. I am like that little boy and that burn was Gods love.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP Well, morals are not dependent on there being a God or not, so we can all be moral regardless of our belief :). As for your story, are you saying that suffering brings you closer to God?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk Well the belief that there is no God gives access to the belief there is no right or wrong, we decide what's right and wrong. God is the one who gave us these laws. If the bible is false that means there's no such thing as sin, and there's nothing wrong with murder and there's no limit to our sexual enjoyment. As for my story, I was stating that I have exerienced the holy spirit, but it's also true that if it takes a crisis for you to seek God, he will allow it.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP Well, of course murder is wrong, but that is not simply because some higher being told us so. There are plenty of negative consequences like fines, going to jail, or being put on death row, and these are successful enough to prevent the majority of the population from doing it. Since atheists don't believe in God or absolute morals, shouldn't they all be out murdering and raping since there are no penalties for it? Since this is not the case, what then could be holding them back?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk We have consequences because we know it's wrong. God gave us a conscience. At times man kind doesn't belive in God because they don't want to. If there is a God that would mean there is someone in control, and that means there are rules, that tends to scare people. It's normal to have doubts but we shouldn't throw in the towel.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP Why do you believe in a God that exists for everyone, rather than not believe. I know you believe in Him because of personal experience, but why do you think that applies to the rest of us?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk Because what if there was a God? I know you probably hear that alot but just what if? I see the world and I investigate on my religion and on other religions, I want to know what I'm getting myself into and I do believe there is a God and if there is then the bible is true and I believe there's nothing more important then where we go when we die...what if there was a hell? If there was one I would want to know. It would be selfish for a christian to keep salvation to themselves
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP But then we come back to the step where we still don't know which 1 of the infinite amount of Gods exist, so by sheer probability alone, you are almost 100% likely to be wrong anyway. Heck, there might be that God that lets you into his heaven for you just being yourself, without following any religion. When it comes down to it, they are all equiprobably. I'm just curious as to what your reasoning is to picking this particular one amongst the many.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk It would take a long time to explain why amongst the many I only believe in the christian God, but one reason is because many other religions have seemed to just slowly come about, as if made up. Also because the bible is the one book that predicts the future like no other. Last, because of my personal experience with faith.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP What are your thoughts about the claim that Christian lore was cobbled together out of parts of other religions? What do you think about Norse, Roman, Greek, and Egyptian mythology/religion, which have had much earlier starts than Christianity, and are thus more original, and I would say, have a smaller chance of being made up? What has the bible predicted so far that came true, and to what degree of detail was this prediction made, and to what degree was it correct?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk The bible does predict a money crisis in revelations 13:16-17, and it mentions rumors of war, like a world war 3. The claim that christianity was brought together by other religions? Not true, christianity came about with the arrival of Jesus Christ. How can we assume he actually existed? Well I never met Julias Cesar but I know he existed because scriptures say so and because he was an actual man in the flesh.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP You mean the mark of the beast and all that stuff? And WW3? Thats all in the future. So you're saying you believe because of the things that may happen but have not yet? And you say that the bible only provides 'rumors', and a prophecized money crisis? Those are so vague, that this alone would discard those predictions as useless. On top of that, money crisis and and wars are sooooooo common that anyone, literally anyone, could predict them and be proven true within some 50 years.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP cont'd. Wars happen literally every 10 or so years, in some part of the world, of some level of severity, and almost anything can be considered a 'money crisis' by someone. Economists and political scientists make much more specific, and accurate, predictions all the time on these topics, would you believe them to be prophets and/or deities? Also, I didn't mean that Christianity was created from other religions, but that it took parts of other religions, like the resurrection.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP And as for the historical aspect, Julias Caesar is mentioned in many more books than Jesus, along with his accomplishments. There are also physical remnants of his existence, like the effects he had on his empire. The thing about the Bible that makes it a poor source of history on its own is that it has such a high content of 'miracles', that are not chronicled anywhere else, or experienced in real life, or even found proof of their after-effects.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP
If there was a God, he'd know if we were just deceiving him to get into heaven. Obviously he wouldn't allow anyone to get into heaven by just wishful thinking or last minute conversion... Pascals Wager doesnt work...DOESNT WORK! no, you stop using it to think your right. cos no! your wrong
skormz10 1 year ago
@skormz10 Of course he would, some people do think they can decieve him and others don't. I know that God can look at what's in my heart, he even says so in the bible. I don't really have wishful thinking, I believe with all my heart there is a God, therefore I just have faith.
GuitarGIRLXP 1 year ago
@GuitarGIRLXP just to ease your curiosity there is no doubt, between atheist and believer Jesus did walk the earth. The romans have/ had a record and so does josephus a jewish scribe.
deltaalphacharlie 1 year ago
@10com50cal first off, you are being arrogant, you are saying that there is 100 percent no chance that their is not a god.
And second off you ARE WILLFULLY ignorant because you ignore the evidence and instead go on faith.
Let me ask you something.
Would you kill someone if god commanded you too?
JtizzleOhara 1 year ago
@JtizzleOhara I'm not being arrogant. It's called being sure. As to how you come to the "arrogant" assessment is anyone's guess.
You also said I'm being willfully ignorant because I ignore the evidence and go on faith? What evidence you silly person. You think you can actually provide "evidence" that there is no God? You can't. No one can, try as they might. So drop your nasty attitude.
God wouldn't tell me to kill someone. LOL How on earth do you people get those ideas? Watching too much TV?
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal God wouldn't tell you to kill someone?
Thats interesting because he does it all the time in the bible, so i'll ask you again if god told you to kill someone, as he did in the bible, would you.
JtizzleOhara 1 year ago
@JtizzleOhara If God told me to kill someone and absolutely revealed Himself to me and I had absolutely no question it was Him, I'd do whatever He asked.
But being as God wouldn't reveal Himself to me for such a lowly reason, your question is merely that of a simpleton. If you feel you can condense and sum up someone's faith by such a simple question you really are a simpleton.
You think you can manage to reveal the truth of God with such a foolish premise but you've come to this battle unarmed.
10com40cal 1 year ago
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SixtySeventh 1 year ago
venom... it seems so hopeless to argue with you and to attempt to impress upon you that your world view is biased and does not embrace reality. Even after all of this time you still haven't begun to realize that you have all of your work ahead of you. I would suggest some long sessions with a scientist so that you begin to understand science. I would also suggest some time with a therapist so that you may begin to understand yourself and how you relate to the world better.
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mcmadbat3 1 year ago
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mcmadbat3 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh I'm not saying God made it inevitable for us to sin. I'm saying only Jesus didn't sin. What has God asked of us but to walk humbly with Him, to love Him, our Father, our Creator. Is this grievous? Or are we stiff-necked and refuse humility, refuse to love Him who loves us more than anything. Do we bear the scars of loving Him as He bears the scars of loving us? No, we don't.
Turning away from Him and His love is sin in and of itself.
He did show Himself to us here. Jesus.
10com40cal 1 year ago
Why would I love someting that I can't see, feel or hear? Oh, yeah, he did, 2000 years ago, when mentally demented people were not yet recognized, and brain chemistry was an unknown to us.
For all I know, this is how it went down: The old testament was written, they predicted Jesus, right? Either Jesus himself was a skilled illusionist/mentally ill person who said himself to be God and defied the norms of religion by doing that, or Jesus is a fictional character used to enhance the prophecy.
SixtySeventh 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh You haven't read much of the first 4 books of the New Testament, have you?
You want to call Jesus mentally demented and applaud your supposed knowledge of brain chemistry OVER what Jesus said and did, go ahead.
You want to believe that Jesus pulled off some kind of hoax, go ahead. But I seriously think you know that what He did was in no way a hoax, it would be completely and entirely impossible for anyone, much less a mentally ill person to do what He did or say what He said.
10com40cal 1 year ago
Well, have you considered the version that he never existed in the first place? That he was only a fictional character created ONLY to serve and fulfill the prophecys of the old testament?
No, you probably haven't. Because you are probably like most religious people; you make up your mind first and then you start look for and handpick whatever "evidence" that fits your already made up mind and theory. Which is BS, really. Look at the facts and then make up your mind. Not vice versa.
SixtySeventh 1 year ago
Correction: "Prophecies"
SixtySeventh 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh No, I never considered that Jesus never existed when He was said to have existed. What I also never considered was that He was alive, not dead. So in all that time, I rarely if ever thought about Him. Nothing in my life was about Him, ever. The fact that I believed He existed at one time meant nothing to me. I couldn't put 2 and 2 together, for some reason. God hadn't revealed to me who Jesus was.
It wasn't until Jesus was revealed to me, that He was alive, that everything changed.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh cont'd: Basically, I guess I was one of those who needed evidence first. Not really to my credit but each person is different.
You saying I'm "religious" - nothing could be further from the truth. I cannot stand religiosity. Which works out well because Jesus didn't like it either, not then, not now. He spoke against it consistently. Religion is other people making rules and using moral authority which they don't have in order to control people. Pharisees back then, pharisees now.
10com40cal 1 year ago
Let me put it this way, there is as little evidence of jesus existence outside of the Bible as there is for Frodo outside The Lord of the Rings, yet you choose to blindly believe that he was real. It doesn't make any sense. Are you truly that weak minded?
What reason do you have to believe that Jesus walked this earth? (Othert than the Bible, since that book is not proof, nor evidence, it's just a book which could've been written by man alone in order to control peoples morality.)
SixtySeventh 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh I'm being sincere and open here with you, but your best response is that I'm weak-minded.
So suffice it to say, I've been given evidence that Jesus not only existed, but that He exists and He is the Lord and that He is Love.
His existence is not in question for me. It's amazing that you would think Jesus would give nothing at all in the way of evidence. THAT would be blind faith, which is not what I have.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal What is this evidence you speak of? I don't mean to jump in rudely, but I keep seeing people say this as defense, and yet never be able to back it up. And no citing the bible in any way, shape, or form. It is simply a book.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk You think the Bible is "simply a book". Have you ever read a book? I'm not trying to be rude either, but trying to point out that when you read books, you get something from them, don't you? Either you know the writings in a book are false or they're correct or they're nothing to you and you're indifferent. I believe the Bible is the Word of God. I read it for myself and my advice is you do the same. See what you get from it.
Evidence. Meeting someone is evidence they exist, isn't it?
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal Yes, I get many different impressions from reading many different books, and they each make me feel a variety of feelings. Admittedly, I have not read the bible start to end at any time, I would say I have read 80-90% though, and from a literary perspective, it didn't strike all that interesting or even consistent, if you try to take things literally. It holds up better under the genre of "fiction", but I know this is not what you wanted me to say. I dont see your point in this sense
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk When I suggested you read the Bible and see what you get from it, I wasn't expecting you to say anything in particular. Like I said, I read it for myself. I started with the 4 gospels in the New Testament (1st 4 books). I got several answers to some questions I had. Not every scripture at that time spoke to me, but the answers I got sparked faith in me, faith that God was listening to me, and speaking to me personally.
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. Romans 10:17
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal You haven't yet provided any evidence which you claim exists. You simply stated that it made you feel a certain way. Other books have the power to do the same, and to a much greater effect. Name me a feeling, and I will name you a book that does it better, on the condition that you go into it expecting a story, not already 'knowing' that it is true, which is bias. So far, your evidence comes down to "I believe the Bible is the Word of God". I believe it is only a book. Now what?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk I'm sorry but it seems every atheist I've interacted with always demands evidence that God exists. It's unclear to me why this always seems to be among the 1st arguments or questions they have. How can you or any atheist even come to the conclusion that evidence given by man is evidence you'll go by? I don't believe you or anyone would do that. I sure wouldn't. God Himself would have to give me evidence of His existence. It's up to Him to give it to someone who sincerely asks of Him.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal Right. But since he hasn't given it to me personally, the best that I can hope for is that someone else will in his stead. Isn't it odd that God will only give evidence to someone who already believes in him, but not to someone who doesn't, when that someone who doesn't is the one that really needs it? If evidence is to support that belief, it must precede the belief, or else that belief is still baseless and imaginary. I can't ask santa claus to prove himself, since there is no...
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk That's not completely true, that God only gives evidence to someone who already believes in Him. Why would they need evidence if they already believe. In my case, what I thought was my belief in God ended up being empty, because I didn't know who God was. Which is the most important part of real faith - knowing who He is. Without that, there can be no real faith.
Besides people I've known, C.S. Lewis comes to mind. He didn't believe at all til he was overtaken by God's presence.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal "Him to give it to someone who sincerely asks of Him." I took this literally, where you said I should sincerely ask it of him. But there is only a 'Him' if you already believe in Him. There is no 'Him' to me as my beliefs currently stand. There is just nothing, a blank space. Obviously I can't talk to a blank space. Out of curiosity, do you believe that all atheists/agnostics are just rebelling against God but still know he is there? Not to single you out, but that is the impression
Ademisk 1 year ago
@10com40cal ...I often get.
What is the God that you know now like?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@10com40cal one to ask that question of.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@10com40cal cont'd some more. And yes, I'd say meeting someone in person is pretty strong evidence that they exist.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh No, it wasn't me that said you are judged for what Adam and Eve themselves did. Nor do I use phrases like "original sin". You won't find that phrase in the Bible. Honestly speaking, I myself don't care whether man was born with a sinful nature or not. It's neither here nor there as far as salvation by Jesus is concerned. What IS clear is that no one ever goes through life without sin of some sort.
Forms of theology don't impress me and certainly won't enslave me. Nor should it you.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh You're not judged for what someone else did. You're judged for your own sin. And what then, will you say you have no sin? That you are pure and holy?
God is pure and holy. How will you approach Him (assuming you would one day want to) if you are not made pure and holy? How will you, who are unrighteous, approach a righteous God and stand before Him without fear? Without judgment? With nothing other than knowing you are loved by Him? No fear, no judgment, just love and purity?
10com40cal 1 year ago
Welcome back Shawn! Good to see you are making videos again. Missed you for awhile... Good luck on your school too. peace =)
ChemWatcher 1 year ago
good video shawn, but repeating a simple 'sinner's' prayer wont suffice. Acts 2:38 tells us to REPENT and be baptized...Repent not "repeat"
Z1onseven 1 year ago
Matthew 12
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
James 2
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
PawnBACM 1 year ago
Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
1 John 3
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
PawnBACM 1 year ago
Is killing always wrong?
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg.
MrHerrIQ 1 year ago
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Is killing always wrong?
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg. Is it wrong?
MrHerrIQ 1 year ago
Is killing always wrong?
Assume there's a child killer who is threatening to throw a child of the cliff to certain death. You've tried to be diplomatic but he's getting more angry and intolerant. You realize that killing him is the only possible way to save the child.
Is it wrong to kill him? Let say a rapist, break into your daughters room in the middle of the night and he is comming at you with a knife, you have a gun but you dont want to risk your life by merely shooting his leg. Is it wrong?
MrHerrIQ 1 year ago
@shirlcare Yes! I'm just as guilty and would like to resolve our spat. We have shown ourselves to be capable of reasoning. LOL at the things we said to each other, and we're not even married xD
TheMegazapcat 1 year ago
@shirlcare But you have to realize that when you send a hate message to a stranger who's never heard of you before, they might believe you to be a psychotic.
TheMegazapcat 1 year ago
@shirlcare I'd like to believe that, it sounds nice, but you sent me a hate message out of nowhere...
TheMegazapcat 1 year ago
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TheMegazapcat 1 year ago
it's good to see you
MeanHacker 1 year ago
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YoungSpotUBrock 1 year ago
It just seems the more people talk about religion the less sense it makes :-/
xShadowxPhoenix 1 year ago
How do you know it's thou shalt not kill referring to humans? It only says, "Thou shalt not kill". So anyone that has killed anything that is alive has broken a commandment. How does any God follower answer that?
charlesfloyb 1 year ago
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Quinns0Channel 1 year ago
I am pleased to see that you have not disabled comments on this channel. I also hope that your time in school is used to learn and not only attempt to teach. Humility is one of the greatest challenges for all Christians, that includes me, and you. Enjoy your learning.
BorgMX5 1 year ago
Also, Deuteronomy, the book that contains the laws and the 10 commandments, was allegedly "discovered" by one of Josiah's high priests during Josiah's reign. This book is highly regarded as a forgery.
MrAmputechture 1 year ago
I would argue morality is socially constructed, with evidence that Feral Children, human beings that are raised in the wild, absent of social interaction. Feral Children have no sense between right and wrong. Not only does this mean that there is no such thing as a foundation of morals that effect every human being, but it also suggests morality is socially constructed.
MrAmputechture 1 year ago
@MrAmputechture I think it actually proves what the Bible teaches, that we are born with a sin nature that is morally bankrupt and we need to be taught right and wrong.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX Isn't that equivalent to saying that all animals are constantly sinning, too, seeing that humans without social influence are basically animals? If a sin is an immoral act, how is it possible to sin without a sense of right and wrong? Morality has to come before sin.
MrAmputechture 1 year ago
@MrAmputechture Animals do not have the ability to reason. Morality is using right reason to deny or indulge ones instincts and appetites when it is appropriate to do so according to God's standard. Animals neither have an awareness of God, His standard, or an ability to reason between what is right or wrong, and thus, can not sin.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX Can the same thing not be said about feral humans? The point I am making is that our morality and our ability to "sin" is not ingrained into us but learned through social interaction- Cultural Relativism.
"What is morality in any given time or place? It is what the majority then and there happen to like, and immorality is what they dislike." - Alfred Whitehead (Christian)
MrAmputechture 1 year ago
@VenomFangX consider this scenario: you invent a time machine that allows you to go back to the birth of Adolf Hitler: You can kill baby Hitler and thus save the lives of millions- Or you can refuse commit infanticide and let millions die- Would either option be the morally correct one? Do yu still think there is absolute morality in this case?
hexum7 1 year ago
Respond to this video..."Animals neither have an awareness of God, His standard, or an ability to reason between what is right or wrong, and thus, can not sin." so how could Adam and Eve have sinned? According to the story, they had no knowledge of good and evil until after they ate the forbidden fruit- And thus are as blameless as animals
hexum7 1 year ago
@hexum7 Adam and Eve had both reason and an understanding that God had commanded them not to disobey. They knew it was "wrong" to disobey God, though they perhaps didn't know why. Through disobedience they were separated from God, because God can not have fellowship with willful disobedience to Himself. Ignorance of the law is no excuse they say, and Adam and Eve were not ignorant, because they received the commandment.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX But here you reading things to the story that are not supported by the text: which is probably blasphemous.... but anyway, Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil-- That is what the knowledge of good and evil implies- And why would god not want man to have knowlegde of good?
hexum7 1 year ago
@hexum7 The "knowledge of good AND evil" is the knowledge of both. Before the fall, there was no distinction because evil did not exist. Since evil did not exist, there was nothing to contrast good with, and so everything "just was", though it was the best possible. The problem is that because evil did not exist and because Adam and Eve had optimal conditions, they had nothing to contrast their perfection with and thus did not fully appreciate the world God made for them.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX Then you aree that dam and Eve had no reference to determine what action was good and what was bad- They could not have had any conception of whether it was evil to is obey god. therefor, they were blameless. The fact is, the serpent was right- God sold not have kept from them the knowledge of good and evil- because that knowledge is necessary for humans to choose what actions they take. personally, I think the whole story is a metaphor - but that's a different subject
hexum7 1 year ago
@VenomFangX If they did not know why it was wrong to disobey, they did not not know why it was right to obey. So did they ever truly have fee will?
InfiniteTurtles 1 year ago
@InfiniteTurtles Moral coercion would have robbed them of free will; they knew God had given them life and everything they enjoyed, so the choice to remain in fellowship with Him in obedience, or disobey and depart from God, was truly free of all coercion. It was a choice based on a love and loyalty, not good and evil. They knew disobeying God would result in death, as God told them, and they chose to disobey and suffer the consequences.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX Shaun, do you agree that morality, regardless of the finer components it may be composed of, is something that everyone possesses? It may be twisted and evil in our eyes, but it is still a set of morals that they follow. As such, I argue that if everyone has morals, and there is only one objective set of morals, then there can be no way that they don't already know this set of morals, and as such, don't need to be taught them. These morals would be then self-evident.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk Everyone has a conscience, but since we are born with a sin nature, we tend to ignore it and indulge in sinful passions. It is because morals are self-evidence, as you say, that the Bible says all men are without excuse for doing evil, which everyone is guilty of. That is why we need Jesus Christ.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX C'mon Shawn, thats a cop out. I thought we could have a rational discussion without you deviating to one of your lines. Regardless of what the bible says, people still have different sets of morals, and they don't have to be evil, they could just be from different cultures. And these moral standards are something they are completely satisfied with. You're right that they need to be 'taught' morals, your morals. If morals were objective, they wouldn't have to be taught, yet they are.
Ademisk 1 year ago
@VenomFangX But Shawn, isn't that just admitting that there being to absolute and objective moral values, since if they were absolute and objective, they wouldn't have to be taught?
Ademisk 1 year ago
@Ademisk There is nothing in the idea of objective morality that follows that we wouldn't have to teach people about it. The point is, even if everyone is ignorant of it, objective morality would still exist; that's why it is objective. It is not dependent on human knowledge or awareness.
VenomFangX 1 year ago
@VenomFangX
Decent gospel message. But I'm a Calvinist. Too many Christians treat John 3:16 like it's the only verse in the Bible. The same Jesus in John 3:16 also said He is not praying for the world but for the ones the Father has given Him (John 17:9). You guys should read John 6:37-44. Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11, 14-15), the sheep are separated from the goats (Mt 25).
MJOLNIRVII 1 year ago
@MJOLNIRVII The logical end result of calvinism remains that God is the author of sin. No matter how many ludicrous brain raids calvinists try to make, no matter how badly they cite scripture, no matter how hard they try to philosophize the doctrine of double predestination as something wholesome and holy, the end result still remains the same: God is the author of sin. Which immediately makes calvinism a horrendous ideology.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 1 year ago
The Ten Commandments are not located in Exodus 20, despite what the subtitles of the study Bibles say. Exodus 34:28 declares that Exodus 34 is the covenant of the Ten Commandments.
umbraemilitos 1 year ago
Brilliant Video !!!!!
ledgendgoku1 1 year ago
Very good video VFX
PeaceInChristAlone 1 year ago
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Know God? So you want us to have sex with him/her/it/trans gender? That would be a bit challenging because you can't have sex with an imaginary being.
tehAdmrl 1 year ago
To answer your beginning question:
Yes, there is point, even if they are "just" ideas. Guess what? You're entire worldview is "just ideas" your entire perception of reality is "just ideas".
Ideas that affect the way we live.
One needs no more axioms than a basic desire to live pleasantly for a system of morality to rise.
Hyardacil 1 year ago
Sub.'ed and you are on my channel as a favorite YTer.
TheMegazapcat 1 year ago
Why does his voice contain barking intonation? If good and evil exists then his barking voice is definitely evil.
rvakna 1 year ago
@TheHigherVoltage You never knew Him, and yes, really. Not at the hand of" Christains", more of satans counterfiet. He leaves his signature on his work. Murder, Suicide, Pedophilia, Abuse, Immorality, Idolitry, Hatred, Worship of Man, Self, Money, Humanism cloaked in religion. The absence of Christ, or Who He IS, or the absolute Power of His Blood for Redemption of Man, deception. Recognize anyone? All or part will alway be there like fingerprints at a Crime Scene. All in the name of Christian
luettem 1 year ago
@luettem so there's no true Christians but who you judge Christians. Got ya. Didn't see that one coming either.
The difference between ignorant and normal people :
Normal people read the bible, notice 1000s of contradictions, immoral instructions passed off as morality, and notice the skitzophrenic, pagan-based doctrines.
While the ignorant read the bible and say "oh ya, God's perfect and infallible word".
You're nuts. You're a walking definition of evil demanding it's good.
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago
@TheHigherVoltage That's her outlook. Human beings are nothing but mere puppets in a grand cosmic scheme. Humans are worthless. And it's so much easier to vilify people when you deem them worthless.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 1 year ago
@TheHigherVoltage Case in point: all those jews slaughtered in the Holocaust? That was all God's plan, so that Miss Luettem and her fellow chosen ones could attain salvation. And as these jews went to their death without accepting Christ as their lord and savior, they are, according to such lovely God-fearing folk as Luettum, bound to go to hell as well.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 1 year ago
I've watched Demon on my Shoulder... I'm not impressed. Reptillians... seriously? A photograph of a demon? Looks more like the back of a female head. Luckily, another demon was caught on tape while Michael Jackson was doin' his thang, and it's as convincing as the aforementioned one... In short: fear. Yet again.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 1 year ago
@FujiwaraNoGo Everything you just wrote has been debunked many times over.....now if you prefer to sound rediculous continue, I dont have the time. watch chuck missler to see how pitiful what you just wrote really is, as to the rest of your problems.....spelling is the least of them. Get right, or get left behind, and you dont have much time
luettem 1 year ago
@FujiwaraNoGo Considering you read all my posts, they are to "whoever" is lost and finds them. As to Why God didnt reveal Himself to all of us? HE DID, in Fact He Himself Walked the Earth, and was killed by man. and Still today, rather then recognizing their creator, they prefer ANY OTHER IDEA, rather then God. What was revealed is not God to "that" individual" on the video Demon on my Shoulder, but the demonic forces that has desuaded you from God-Very Real, True and you still cant watch it, ?
luettem 1 year ago
@FujiwaraNoGo Your lack of understanding, and inability to rightly divide the Word will leave you dead. The inaccuracies you think you 'know' are not accurate..thus again, end result will be death. I told you to Watch Demon On My Shoulder-you could not, and I told you why. the 'why' is truth, and your deception is honestly pitiful. Watch Divine Origins of the Scripture, Chuck Missler, just for a tiny start at what you DONT have a clue about...but you really dont have much time sadly, get right
luettem 1 year ago
I like your background images, the green screen makes things more interesting. :]
GunShard 1 year ago
John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. Acts 3:19
Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out 2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
angelcollector22 1 year ago
@PhobicOne Don't put words in quotes that I didn't say. Those are your words, not mine. Don't attribute your inept use of language to me.
I'm glad for you that you know exactly how God should act and be and think and do. And that you think God is not worthy of you. Very interesting way of thinking, but hey, whatever floats your boat. You have free will to believe or not to believe.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal I know nothing of how a god should act, but I do know how the biblical god appears to act - not well. According to how he acts in the bible noone should honestly believe that they are lower than such a virulent, hateful, sectarian, brutal, evil person. It'd be like prostrating yourself to Hitler.
PhobicOne 1 year ago
@PhobicOne I wish I could thumbs up your comment. well said man.
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago
I agree with you but I would like to hear your opinion about on lordship salvation. Message me somehow. Thanks.
majinhiei7 1 year ago
@majinhiei7 Lordship Salvation means that when one is saved, he repents of his sins and allows Jesus to become Lord of his life, as demonstrated by progressive sanctification.
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The apposing view is free grace, which teaches that one need only have faith in Jesus as savior, but not Lord, thus one can be saved without any real change in his life. This side usually accuses the other as works based salvation.
JesusforLife2 1 year ago
@JesusforLife2 So basically lordship salvation says you MUST repent of your sins sins and believe in Jesus to be saved. Can you provide me scripture that supports this claim?
majinhiei7 1 year ago
@SixtySeventh No, there's absolutely nothing illogical about God and His ways. *You're* illogical because you simply don't like His ways. When He made the earth and all that's in it, man blew it. And THAT'S where you get the killing, the lust, the stealing, the lying, the worship of everything other than Him. From MAN. So put the blame where it lays, on man. We're unworthy of all He's given us, everything He's made for us. We fall so short, we don't even know how to account for all we do.
10com40cal 1 year ago
@10com40cal @10com40cal I love how you just said theres nothing illogical about god, an invisible man who's need for you to believe in him is so strong that he sends you to eternal suffering if you don't, and yet gives you no evidence to believe in it.
Also your just stating your own unproven, unverifiable opinions, and then treating them as if they are fact.
JtizzleOhara 1 year ago
@Jti God is self-sufficient, he needs nothing. He commands you to repent and believe. Saying there is no evidence is not a logical statement for it presupposes the very thing you are arguing against - Theism. For it requires omniscience to know every piece of evidence for God's existence. He also has given us overwhelming circumstantial evidence such as 100% prophetic fullfillment. "..unproven, unverifiable opinions, and then treating them as if they are fact." sounds like atheism.