Is A Two Party System Really Democracy? - M.o.C #28

[0407Anonymous]

@LeeCamp2 My idea on campaign finance reform- all campaign donations are made to the Congressional Budget office overseen by a citizen watchdog committee. Capped at $1000 per person with no corporate influence and distributed evenly among all candidates by CBO.

[boumar19721972]

@LeeCamp2 "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil."

-Garcia, Jerry-

[xxxxPaladinxxxx]

Actually, Lee is quite incorrect. There are other parties, and it's been my experience that there are ALWAYS more than two choices on the ballot, at least at the national level (and often at the state level, too). Here in Michigan, for example, during at least the last two presidential elections, we had FIVE choices for President in November.

Seek out your alternatives! (And don't count on the fucking corporate mainstream media to inform you. They won't.)

[danieljliversLXXXIX]

A better question would be: is Democracy really a good thing?

[Spentastic]

@danieljliversLXXXIX It's better than the corporately owned global fascism that we currently endure.

[1969lincolnosiris]

So a democracy goes against the will of the majority to install a party that nobody votes for? LOL

There is no "FALSE dichotomy". The "wings" are; egalitarianism vs. Plutocracy.

Neither party denies this, ESPECIALLY the plutocrats.

Your premise is ridiculous.

[faroan00]

LOL

[huntbug1]

you are an intelligent man. You also say what many people have been thinking for long time

[doctender77]

I've watched every one of your videos in the last two days now, some more than once. Does that mean I have too much free time? Probably. Does it mean these videos are great? Absolutely. Keep up writing and ranting. You are my new favorite comedian.

[labmonkey398]

Well put

[VotoBryan]

You should check out Votocracy. I think you'll like it.

[StunnedByStupidity]

Boy this stuff of yours is good Lee..

[marniespeaks]

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[mperry50]

You are fabulous

[WilhelmDrake]

The US has one party, the Business Party, with two wings, Democrats and Republicans.

[dandooshnanoosh]

@LeeCamp2 Ok. Listen. I graduated from the number-one undergraduate political science department in the United States. It doesn't all mean I'm the world's best expert, but I do understand a great deal and know an un-thought-out argument when I see one. Furthermore, I've probably spent hundreds of hours working for a third party and, in addition, I'm also very good at getting to the fundamental reasons for things, so altogether, i know this subject.

Believe me: it's a strategic reason.

[LeeCamp2]

@dandooshnanoosh Anybody who has to cite their education as an argument makes me immensely sad. It means even the best educated in our country can't defend their points of view. They can only hide behind a piece of paper. You must be right, Dan, money is inculpable when it comes to our disastrous political system.

[argonkryton]

Best Yet! So hard to support the Republicrats or the Democrans.

[pajandrum]

It's the way it is because everyone likes to choose "One or the other" because people like the lack of ambiguity. Good vs Evil, PC vs Mac, Female vs Male. Reality is all in the gray, but that takes understanding and sympathizing with other people, rather than demonizing those who disagree with you. And that's hard work.

[TERb8]

as long as people allow governments to collect taxes via (automatic) payroll deductions, voting will mean diddly.

curious, why do you mute the word 'fucking?'

[Steve7508]

A British politician (Ken Livingstone) wrote a memoir called 'If Voting Changed Anything, They'd Abolish It". Some say it was Andrew Lack of NBC who came up with the line, but whatever, there's some truth in it. Democracy doesn't mean the public decide on anything important. p.s. Ralph Nader always looks so tragic.

[TiradeFaction]

@Steve7508 Actually I believe that was "Emma Goldman"

[bulldogger]

A few hundred people "representing" hundreds of millions isn't democracy. LOL

[gamesmaster35]

@bulldogger It's called representative democracy because the representatives tell you basically if you gave them power what they would do with that power if they had it.You listen to that representative, then research him to see if his past deeds match what he's saying now.If you like what you see and agree with his platform you vote for him if not and there's someone else you like better you vote for the other guy.Where we fail?We research nothing.We look in their eyes and shake their hand.

[gamesmaster35]

@bulldogger He seems nice or how much I would love to have a drink with someone should have no bearing on whether or not this person should lead a country.The fact that he accepts Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior should have no impact on whether I vote for you or not.And as long as it does you will continue to get shitty results like this.

[WickedMo13]

The wu tang clan, lol, I would actually vote for them! hilarious

[farlane]

Squirming like Sarah Palin...

[boumar19721972]

The lesser of two evils is still evil!

[dandooshnanoosh]

This youtuber apparently doesn't understand why we have only two parties. He suspects it's because we need Campaign Finance reform, apparently. No, that's just un-thought-out. We have a two party system because it's the strategic end result of simple voting...more specifically, winner-take-all district elections. In all such situations, the need to not spoil boils down the available options to two alone.

[StevenM818]

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch!

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide." -John Adams

Democracy or Republic? Which is it?

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Benjamin Franklin Had It Right

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[ray955comedy]

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[Julietjeske]

Lee Camp Party. I would vote for that

[aduffield]

sadly the only one's that can chance campaign finance reform are the ones that benefit from the current system

[tobiasaurusrex]

We have one political party, two puppets with one control scheme - all our politicians get together at the anti-American CFR club. That Ralph Nader would have been arrested for attending a presidential debate with a ticket (he was surrounded by police outside the auditorium), let alone not allowing him to actually join in the debate, proves that there's a rigged system. Further, the "difference" between the two parties is over social superficialities irrelevant to actual government workings.

[FreedumbFighter28]

hahaha...there is even 3 demensions...XD

Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.....stupid humans.:-(

[tcdowning666]

Exactly! Well put Lee!