Thanks for this, back squat doesn't do it for me, just getting more and more discomfort from it, probably because of my height, so I guess it's front squats from now on!
It often helps when doing front squats to point your toes out a bit (30 degrees or so), and keep your knees out so it's easier to keep your hips from going back and your knees from going out too far.
Thanks for the in-depth tips! Tried working front squats for the first time today (before I saw this), bar kept rolling forward on me when nearing bottom (ass-to-ground), especially using the arms folded over technique. The clean grip allowed for better bar stability however, hurt like hell. Gotta work on it... this video should help.
hi I tried to front squat however I felt pain in my front deltoids where the bar was pressing. Also, the bar kind of rolled back into my throat and made it more difficult to breathe. What can I do to correct this?
i find that in order to get correct form, i am sacrificing a lot of weight (almost 50%) Is it typical to not be able to lift as much weight with the front squat as with the back squat? Is it possible I was not doing the back squat properly and am finding weaknesses in my legs?
@EpTiCNation Its very common. Front squats will always be less than the back squat. Its a much harder movement. If you are finding it hard the problem could be in your quads as with the front squat the emphasis is on the quads.
ALO front squat man from aussie land.... MY problem is my guns they are fully loaded...... 19 inches of sexy meat (my arms) But seriously im having alot of trouble getting the flexibility even in your wider grip example do you have any more stretches for us large gunned inderviduals or will my sexy guns forever destroy my front squat asperations....
i tried to frontsquat today, but it felt as if my lower back was pushing up all the weight and not my legs, after 2 sets my lower back already felt mauled while i didnt feel anything in my legs. Anyone got any idea what im doing wrong?
hello. I have a question. I have problems with my lower back area and whenever I do normal squats I have back pain but I dont want stop squatting. do u think front squats dont put so much pressure on my lower back?
Great video, I didn't realise technique played such a vital role in weight lifting. I kept my elbows as straight as possible and my shoulders ended up taking most of the weight which made it easier to squat! I'll be sure to check out your other vids
Every time I try front squats I have trouble with getting my hands into position, but you answered all of my questions, I'll keep at it and see if the flexibility comes. Thanks for the video!
I don't know how other people can get their arms in that position! My forearms, wrists, and shoulders scream in pain the more I bent my arms back. I can get the bar to my adam's apple, but can't get it down to my delts. Baffled.
@dimebeats - it's a weightlifting shoe - hard sole, excellent support for pushing big iron in squats, cleans, snatch - Olympic lifts. He probably is 40!
Actually it's a common misconseption that squatting all the way down or "ass to grass" is bad for your knees. The knee joint is strongest when it's fully stretched or flexed. So if you stop at 90 degrees, you actually put your knees under a lot of stress. Also, the full squat is more natural for the human body and less stressful on the knee joint.
After watching this video I tried for the very first time the front squat after few years of back squat. I failed miserably. I couldn't grab the bar while you make it look so easy. Please encourage me :-)
Amazing explanation! Tomorrow will be my first time with front squat after a few years of back squat. Your video was just what I was looking for! Great stuff! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the great tips. I train back squats 3 times per week (Starr 5x5) and just started a new program that incorporates the front squat....I had a tough holding the bar. I will try your suggestions next time!
great discussion. I prefer the 'choke hold' grip (the arms crossed method) over the method you demonstrated specifically due to the wrist pain issue. Using straps help, but I just have an easier time with the choke hold grip.
I was very pleased to hear the encouragement to spend 4 to 6 weeks to master the proper rack position. I was having difficulty myself but now know its common and that I must keep at it.
awsome video - truly awsome. The entire Squat RX video collection is a masterpiece. Thanks for taking the time to offer such advice for free!
I have a question, what works the quads more. Back or front squats? I'm guessing front, but I'm not sure. I usually feel the glutes mores with back then front.
Thank you. Yes, the front squat is generally going to stress your quads more, but you can vary the back squat bar position to stress the quads more if you want to.
I did my 3 sets of front squats yesterday taking it really easy and going very slowly to see how my form was. I think I did well for my first time. I favor front squats more due to the decent naturally keeping the back straight.
One thing I could not quite figure out is where to rest the bar. I tried to rest it on my shoulders, but it rolls down in between my shoulder and bicep. If I keep it up too high it starts to rub my collar bones. Any suggestions?
another position i found to be extremely comfortable is holding the bar on you shoulders with the pinkly fingers touching. though this allows you to cheat a little bit and the elbow go slightly side ways i find it to be very comfortable. how much forward lean is "allowed" and how much knee movement forward is allowed? how dangerous is it for the knees? a suck at those and i'm going to spend the next few months practicing them so i want to know the right way to do it
I'm not really understanding what you mean by "on the shoulders with the pinky fingers touching".
Not much forward lean. More forward tracking (and more flexion) of the knees than low bar back squatting. I can't give you any solid answer about "how dangerous" it is, but if you have otherwise healthy knees and aren't doing anything stupid it should strengthen the joint.
oh ok, the regular gym mentality is still bugging me...
as for the grip - i meant holding the bar like in a very close grip biceps curl, fists on the chest, knuckles touching the throat, bar on the shoulders, the small fingers touching each other. the grip is solid.
this allows to hold the bar with your biceps and shoulders instead of just making it sit there on top of the "shelf". less attention to the balance, more attention can be placed on the form, right?
Hand supinated then? I suppose that would be ok and you would have a grip on the bar, but I don't think you'd have as much control of the bar. Try doing bench press with a supinated grip and you'll know, more or less, what I mean - a lot of amazing BPers can do great things with a reverse grip, but, IMO, it has risks.
Also, if you ever have any intentions of doing cleans, presses, and jerks from the rack position, you will have to learn the front squat proper. JMO.
three fingers holding the bar on delts is all good, wrists get used to it in a month. some times i like to hold the bar in place using the "narrow curl grip". i have seen some old school bodybuilder doing it that way. perhaps i'll throw in a video response a week later showing exactly what i mean, perhaps you can give me some hints on technique too :)
I think I know what you mean and I've experimented with it a little - like I said, I just don't think it's as secure, but if you're fine with it, then that's all that matters.
here's the video response - second lift being "the" grip :) how does the squat look? please don't be too harsh on the snatch... i was tired and bored and i did heavy shoulder work the day before :D
Looks pretty good to me. I would really focus on the "squeeze" (a Dan John cue) and try to keep that chest up throughout - it looks like it might be coming forward a little to me.
The clean needs some work. Your legs completely extend almost immediately and there is no second pull. OLs aren't my forte, but I may have to talk about them sometime. There are some great videos at crossfit and on youtube. Send me a PM and I'll reply w. some links.
i don't squat anything like this guy, but this video isn't bad for newbs looking to start. i would suggest heels for FSing. also i suggest newbs to put on like 185, 225, and just pause in the hole for 30-40 seconds. i do it after my work sets to get some core flexibility along with ability to hold the elbows up position.
i cant hold it in the clean position due to wrist pain....
ManagFTW66 1 month ago
Thank you, very informative. I am going to front squat tomorrow.
bintangbomber 1 month ago
Thanks for this. Greatly improved my form after watching and then putting into practice what you teach.
smss5695 2 months ago
This video is so money
Ahasuer 2 months ago
Thanks for this, back squat doesn't do it for me, just getting more and more discomfort from it, probably because of my height, so I guess it's front squats from now on!
glorbstah 3 months ago
awesome shoes
TheKingClem 3 months ago
wow. the 24 i go to has ONE power cage. that is a ridiculous amount there
TsangBokyan 5 months ago
Thanks for posting this. My front squats are much less painful now.
vbsasquatch1 5 months ago
really appreciated man thanks !
energypower1 6 months ago
great video, thanks alot.
kagondemon 8 months ago
It often helps when doing front squats to point your toes out a bit (30 degrees or so), and keep your knees out so it's easier to keep your hips from going back and your knees from going out too far.
illegitimate0 9 months ago
Thanks for the in-depth tips! Tried working front squats for the first time today (before I saw this), bar kept rolling forward on me when nearing bottom (ass-to-ground), especially using the arms folded over technique. The clean grip allowed for better bar stability however, hurt like hell. Gotta work on it... this video should help.
daluke61 10 months ago
Awesome gym! These are much harder than back squats, especially w/o a rack
loopba 11 months ago
Where is this glorious place with all these squat racks
Jiggleton 1 year ago
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DasLied9 1 year ago
ouch my knees
fukidomev2 1 year ago
hi I tried to front squat however I felt pain in my front deltoids where the bar was pressing. Also, the bar kind of rolled back into my throat and made it more difficult to breathe. What can I do to correct this?
jusgeo89 1 year ago
i find that in order to get correct form, i am sacrificing a lot of weight (almost 50%) Is it typical to not be able to lift as much weight with the front squat as with the back squat? Is it possible I was not doing the back squat properly and am finding weaknesses in my legs?
EpTiCNation 1 year ago
@EpTiCNation Its very common. Front squats will always be less than the back squat. Its a much harder movement. If you are finding it hard the problem could be in your quads as with the front squat the emphasis is on the quads.
AmusingYeti 1 year ago
ALO front squat man from aussie land.... MY problem is my guns they are fully loaded...... 19 inches of sexy meat (my arms) But seriously im having alot of trouble getting the flexibility even in your wider grip example do you have any more stretches for us large gunned inderviduals or will my sexy guns forever destroy my front squat asperations....
honda535 1 year ago
johnny, if u go past parallel is it possible to not round your lower back? even u slightly round your lower back.
marxistsoldier 1 year ago
@marxistsoldier
A little might be unavoidable, but IMHO, it's something worth the attention.
johnnymnemonic2 1 year ago
so what can u do to prevent that? i know hip flexibility is important...
marxistsoldier 1 year ago
OH MAN ITS BACHMANN SENSEI!!!
goldenkey23 1 year ago
i tried to frontsquat today, but it felt as if my lower back was pushing up all the weight and not my legs, after 2 sets my lower back already felt mauled while i didnt feel anything in my legs. Anyone got any idea what im doing wrong?
vijfendertig 1 year ago
@vijfendertig
I'm guessing you are either pushing the hips back too much as you initiate the descent, and/or not keeping the upper body upright.
johnnymnemonic2 1 year ago 4
@johnnymnemonic2 I've watched hundreds, maybe thousands of training vids, and this has to be one of the best.
aeiou99999 6 months ago
@vijfendertig id say weak a core is to be blamed
collwatt 1 year ago
Do you find that taller athletes have more difficulty performing the front squat?
liveandletlive1 1 year ago
hello. I have a question. I have problems with my lower back area and whenever I do normal squats I have back pain but I dont want stop squatting. do u think front squats dont put so much pressure on my lower back?
5waterpolo5 1 year ago
Great video, I didn't realise technique played such a vital role in weight lifting. I kept my elbows as straight as possible and my shoulders ended up taking most of the weight which made it easier to squat! I'll be sure to check out your other vids
orangethings12 1 year ago
Great video, great explanation... Great performance, great tips... TX
Labonovaful 1 year ago
thanks for the info!!! i wish you a long life..
yichkaan 1 year ago
an exellent informative video. thanks
tmusson151186 1 year ago 2
great video, keep up the great work. thx in advance
aznmav2 1 year ago
thx for the great video.
keep up the good work ;).
greetz from germany
G1B4UC 1 year ago
Finally, someone that actually demonstrates well, answers concerns, and is knowledgeable. A rare find on utube!
MonnsterMan 1 year ago
It's like this guy is in my head. This is precisely how I conceive of the front squat and how to perform it when I do it.
spudnutsncoffee 1 year ago
exellant video
martinjanssen1 2 years ago
very good video, finally someone who knows what they know about
asdodge1 2 years ago 2
omg he has amazing form..
ebutuoy88 2 years ago 5
i definitely feel alot more stress on knees after front squat, it really worries me.
51674 2 years ago
Every time I try front squats I have trouble with getting my hands into position, but you answered all of my questions, I'll keep at it and see if the flexibility comes. Thanks for the video!
boxingsmvp 2 years ago
thanks for the tips!
maxwushu 2 years ago
I don't know how other people can get their arms in that position! My forearms, wrists, and shoulders scream in pain the more I bent my arms back. I can get the bar to my adam's apple, but can't get it down to my delts. Baffled.
geminito 2 years ago
Work on shoulder mobility, scapular stability and strength. Just sayin'.
heylookatmeok 2 years ago 2
just rest the barbelll on your front shoulder and support it with your hands.
Wrestlingfanatic922 2 years ago
Thanks for this great vid, I'm about to go try these based on your advice.
thewiseben 2 years ago
gotta love front squats
brothadoggsforlife 2 years ago
You take a very wide stance. Could you FS with a narrow stance?
Melocizza 2 years ago
well spoken, very helpful
cfrankom 2 years ago 4
what kind of sneaker are you wearing. id like to looke like you when im 40.
dimebeats 2 years ago
@dimebeats - it's a weightlifting shoe - hard sole, excellent support for pushing big iron in squats, cleans, snatch - Olympic lifts. He probably is 40!
1Recaudador 2 years ago
he is wearing the adistar weight lifting shoes
akademiks21 2 years ago
Very Very good vid
bdruckus 2 years ago
does it matter which way you hold it? because i do the other where it rests on my delts and my arms are corssed in fornt of the bar, does it matter?
seannnn2006 2 years ago
good video...his elbow position is not ideal though
nickthebossrossi 2 years ago
great video. going to try front squats for the first time today and i think all this advice will be very helpful.
quijybo2 2 years ago
Excellent video. I learned a lot from this, and I hope to improve my Front Squats considerably.
salman06p0020 2 years ago
gonna try these for my first time since I stopped Powerlifting haha
willbobig 2 years ago
Excellent video.
claviergoren 2 years ago
where the hell is that? there are so many racks? thats heaven :D
NoOtherFreeUsername 2 years ago 55
@NoOtherFreeUsername
was thinking exactly the same thing! there is only one rack at my gym it sucks so much!
dannycoulombe 1 year ago
Thanks a bunch! Great helper for learning this Front Squat!
soltdahg 2 years ago
hey can someone check out my front squat form (the vid in my profile) and tell me if my form is alright or not? do i lean too far forward/
fatcat669 3 years ago
thanks for the video, I barely started front squatting after back squatting for years. Keep up the great videos!
fball456 3 years ago
I LOVE YOUR SHIRT!!
do you have any available for purchase?
thebasil1 3 years ago
ya, I'd buy one or two, that t-shirt's bad ass
ShadowNINku 2 years ago
should your hips go below the knee level?
does this not put a lot of stress on the knees??
manfromdelmonte1 3 years ago
Actually it's a common misconseption that squatting all the way down or "ass to grass" is bad for your knees. The knee joint is strongest when it's fully stretched or flexed. So if you stop at 90 degrees, you actually put your knees under a lot of stress. Also, the full squat is more natural for the human body and less stressful on the knee joint.
Sarge343 3 years ago 36
thx for the great explanation. trying them tonight for the first time.
SquatDeadPress 3 years ago
After watching this video I tried for the very first time the front squat after few years of back squat. I failed miserably. I couldn't grab the bar while you make it look so easy. Please encourage me :-)
emitraxtube 3 years ago
Keep at it. It will not be easy, but if you persist it will come around.
johnnymnemonic2 3 years ago
Is there any particular streching exercise I can do? I find *very* hard to place my elbow high. I'm just not very flexible. Thanks anyway.
emitraxtube 3 years ago
Try the crossed arms position demonstrated at around 8:30. I use this and it is very effective. Much more comfortable than the clean grip.
parklands686 3 years ago 2
I agree completely with parklands. Crossed arms position works well for beginners and I use it still.
Front squats are very hard to do, emitrax. Keep at it! They are great.
drivelinemechanics 3 years ago
Well, he's mentioned all the stretching exercises I do.
But try starting at a lower weight and work yourself up to something more challenging. that worked for me.
Learn to do the clean grip. I just got into front squats simply because I wanted to do power cleans.
I do 5x5 for back squats then another 5x5 for front.
The clean grip allows you to carry heavier loads. The crossed-arm grip is just for ease when beginning the front squat.
venusvelasco 3 years ago
Amazing explanation! Tomorrow will be my first time with front squat after a few years of back squat. Your video was just what I was looking for! Great stuff! Keep up the good work!
emitraxtube 3 years ago
Thanks for the great tips. I train back squats 3 times per week (Starr 5x5) and just started a new program that incorporates the front squat....I had a tough holding the bar. I will try your suggestions next time!
NosferatuZodd9999 3 years ago
great discussion. I prefer the 'choke hold' grip (the arms crossed method) over the method you demonstrated specifically due to the wrist pain issue. Using straps help, but I just have an easier time with the choke hold grip.
southboundtraveler 3 years ago
dude, where did u get that shirt!!!!! can i buy one from u???
hahaha, thats so great!! i got 505 once yesterday so i have "become a man" lol
Excder 3 years ago
Excellent instruction!
I was very pleased to hear the encouragement to spend 4 to 6 weeks to master the proper rack position. I was having difficulty myself but now know its common and that I must keep at it.
heruilin 3 years ago
super stuff
jacer82 3 years ago
u should see ronnie do his front squats thats crazy
HeadDominion 3 years ago
You seem very trustworthy and very easy to work with.
Thanks
Hawkson101 3 years ago 2
Should the bar rest behind the deltoid on the clavicle or on top of the deltoids?
mangetout 3 years ago
awsome video - truly awsome. The entire Squat RX video collection is a masterpiece. Thanks for taking the time to offer such advice for free!
I have a question, what works the quads more. Back or front squats? I'm guessing front, but I'm not sure. I usually feel the glutes mores with back then front.
MrPS2k8 3 years ago 2
Thank you. Yes, the front squat is generally going to stress your quads more, but you can vary the back squat bar position to stress the quads more if you want to.
johnnymnemonic2 3 years ago
I did my 3 sets of front squats yesterday taking it really easy and going very slowly to see how my form was. I think I did well for my first time. I favor front squats more due to the decent naturally keeping the back straight.
One thing I could not quite figure out is where to rest the bar. I tried to rest it on my shoulders, but it rolls down in between my shoulder and bicep. If I keep it up too high it starts to rub my collar bones. Any suggestions?
MrPS2k8 3 years ago
Made a difference in my workouts so many guys have told me the wrong way this was pretty clear cut
Artforartsake2222 3 years ago
is there a way to help my back squat because they are much more difficult for me than front ones.
opeth2009 3 years ago
there is literally too many videos on youtube about this, not to mention the rest of the squat rx series. do a search and stop being so lazy
worstladlads 3 years ago 2
Very informative videos! And very nice gym as well. What's the name of the gym?
Mofo3210 3 years ago
wow this video has helped me so much..i always positioned my hands wrong no wonder why it put so much pressure on my shoulders..thanks alot!
Fen3rbahce 3 years ago
that was just a great video, answered all of my questions about the front squat! thank you
five stars!
japp111 3 years ago
a very nice gym...
lzen5 3 years ago
Very informative thanks!
jahoo2k 4 years ago
another position i found to be extremely comfortable is holding the bar on you shoulders with the pinkly fingers touching. though this allows you to cheat a little bit and the elbow go slightly side ways i find it to be very comfortable. how much forward lean is "allowed" and how much knee movement forward is allowed? how dangerous is it for the knees? a suck at those and i'm going to spend the next few months practicing them so i want to know the right way to do it
SabaZs 4 years ago
I'm not really understanding what you mean by "on the shoulders with the pinky fingers touching".
Not much forward lean. More forward tracking (and more flexion) of the knees than low bar back squatting. I can't give you any solid answer about "how dangerous" it is, but if you have otherwise healthy knees and aren't doing anything stupid it should strengthen the joint.
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
oh ok, the regular gym mentality is still bugging me...
as for the grip - i meant holding the bar like in a very close grip biceps curl, fists on the chest, knuckles touching the throat, bar on the shoulders, the small fingers touching each other. the grip is solid.
this allows to hold the bar with your biceps and shoulders instead of just making it sit there on top of the "shelf". less attention to the balance, more attention can be placed on the form, right?
SabaZs 4 years ago
Hand supinated then? I suppose that would be ok and you would have a grip on the bar, but I don't think you'd have as much control of the bar. Try doing bench press with a supinated grip and you'll know, more or less, what I mean - a lot of amazing BPers can do great things with a reverse grip, but, IMO, it has risks.
Also, if you ever have any intentions of doing cleans, presses, and jerks from the rack position, you will have to learn the front squat proper. JMO.
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
three fingers holding the bar on delts is all good, wrists get used to it in a month. some times i like to hold the bar in place using the "narrow curl grip". i have seen some old school bodybuilder doing it that way. perhaps i'll throw in a video response a week later showing exactly what i mean, perhaps you can give me some hints on technique too :)
SabaZs 4 years ago
I think I know what you mean and I've experimented with it a little - like I said, I just don't think it's as secure, but if you're fine with it, then that's all that matters.
A video'd be great.
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
here's the video response - second lift being "the" grip :) how does the squat look? please don't be too harsh on the snatch... i was tired and bored and i did heavy shoulder work the day before :D
SabaZs 4 years ago
Looks pretty good to me. I would really focus on the "squeeze" (a Dan John cue) and try to keep that chest up throughout - it looks like it might be coming forward a little to me.
The clean needs some work. Your legs completely extend almost immediately and there is no second pull. OLs aren't my forte, but I may have to talk about them sometime. There are some great videos at crossfit and on youtube. Send me a PM and I'll reply w. some links.
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
i think i should concentrate on OLs because i'm useless in those :D thanks.
SabaZs 4 years ago
Good stuff :)
madaozeki 4 years ago
i don't squat anything like this guy, but this video isn't bad for newbs looking to start. i would suggest heels for FSing. also i suggest newbs to put on like 185, 225, and just pause in the hole for 30-40 seconds. i do it after my work sets to get some core flexibility along with ability to hold the elbows up position.
m1kekim 4 years ago
Not the most constructive post, but okay...
You might notice I'm wearing OL shoes (w. a heel)...
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
excellent video. :)
kraftsportNO 4 years ago
mr johnny thank u so m for your tips
overlin2 4 years ago
hey man thanks so much for these awesome videos..i have bad knees and these videos are incredibly helpful and informative.
aks73 4 years ago
Great video. Where'd you get that shirt?
ja391 4 years ago
very good post,thanks heaps
DjKokane 4 years ago
thanks man, very informative.
tj5006 4 years ago
Really useful, thanks
marsh8417 4 years ago
Thank YOU.
johnnymnemonic2 4 years ago
thanks.
mkj22 4 years ago
Excellent, thank you very much.
andreandreeee 4 years ago
very informative, great info!
tigerak02 4 years ago