Congressman Price Debates Health Care with Ed Schultz

[funkmike]

I OBJECT



[guywalker29]

These guys get government organized health care, why can't I have the same thing? Why are they against what they got that I pay for? I pay for what they have, why can't I have what they have?

[QuevilleReaper]

This issue is this complete retard getting in the way. Gtfo.

[roger6060]

Take that Ed!

[Chslosers]

medicare quality is fucking terrible..

[asunsetinmyveins]

I don't get why people are arguing about Medicare. Medicare is millions in the red and a prime example of why the federal government should stay out of health care and leave it to the private sector.

[Breblo94]

I object

[able1039]

I object

[galenhenn]

I object.

[tenderized]

lol at the people who think we have a free market health care system in america lol

[zalzankavol2]

I agree with you Tender...government regulation and interference has so driven up costs and interfered with this industry its a disgrace and has moved us too far away froma real free market system. Nice to find someone who agrees with Price and I.

[zalzankavol2]

There was just a report on CNN about a cancer clinic closing its doors because it was largely funded by medicare and medicaid, and it was not only not getting its money, it could not keep doctors due to the low wages they had to pay. When my clinic started taking medicaid, we ended up spending more time on the phone dealing with billing disputes, fraud, and other crap, so our company nationwide stopped accepting them. It was a horrible mess.

[mef75baby]

Its funny but I have never heard of a Medicare bureaucrat dropping someones coverage because of a preexisting condition or refusing to pay for someones life saving treatment because they deemed it medically unnecessary however I have heard of Private Insurance Officials doing this.

[zalzankavol2]

mef, my company dropped medicaid recipients due to the fraud and abuse. 120 clients shown the door. Happens all the time.

[mef75baby]

Note to Opponents of A Healthcare Insurance Public Option: You can't have it both ways! On one hand you say that a public option will provide inferior services, rationed healthcare and stand in between the doctor and patient. Furthermore, no one wants it because private is better, but....on the other hand you are concerned if adopted private insurers will be unable to compete with this option as many americans will switch to the public plan! This is a contradiction and makes no sense at all!

[funkyflights]

Republicans HAVE NO PLAN..... they would be happy letting the private insurance companies continue FUCKING over America....

[zalzankavol2]

Who says we need a plan, you socialist moron? We have the best health care in the world. Insurance is not a right or an entitlement you government nipple sucking lazy ass. Medcial skill is a valued commodity in the market place, and insurance is a for-profit business that allows many, not all, affordable access to that care. Don't like it? Get of your lazy whiny ass and go to med school so you can give yourself free health care.

[w41duvernay]

What medical insurance company for profit do you work for? I think we're all sick of the death for profit plan that u jokers been giving the american people.

[zalzankavol2]

It was not an insurance company, we were a medical clinic. We sold medical services to people who could afford them. Its called a business selling a product. We got tired of the frauds and deadbeats on medicaid, and of the huge beaurocracy around the billing requirements.

[zalzankavol2]

Price is onto something important; socialized medicine is much more a "survival of the fittest" system than a free market health system. Ultimately a socialist system is about reducing costs, and specialized treatments suffer. So, "general" health care may seem better statistically, but the really sick and elderly are farmed out to die. Canada released a study "the cost of wait times" that says costs are high because elderly are put ahead of workers for care. Scary stuff.

[funkyflights]

WRONG!!! WRONG!!! Socialized medicine is JUST LIKE WHAT our military personal receive and it's one of the best systems in the world... it leave NO Military personnel behind.... the free market health care system is a brutal whore that is sucking our economy dry... and killing over 40,000 Americans a year...

[zalzankavol2]

Most military medical people leave the service and join the private sector. The military medical machine serves a tiny percentage of our population, so you cannot compare it to national socialized medicine. My wisdom tooth was just pulled by a maxillo facial surgeon who was in the navy 15 years. Countries with socialized medicine have very few MFS's compared to the USA, because it is a lucrative business. Very common for med folks to get trained in the military and then go civilian.

[funkyflights]

Yes you can compare it to national socialized medicine because that's exactly what military medicine IS.... if it's on a GRANDER scale it just means it's bigger .. THAT"S IT.... the system can work JUST like it does in the military ... PLUS if you choose to have private insurance and private doctors YOU CAN under Obama's plan ... America should have the choice because right now WE HAVE NO CHOICE.... were getting bent over from these private companies

[zalzankavol2]

wow, ed is an idiot....most doctors do not take medicare or medicaid. I had to do medicaid billing once as a clinic director and it was a nightmare. Our company ended up dropping medicaid and cutting loose the 100 or so clients because of all the bureaucracy involved. Ed is in fantasyland.

[zalzankavol2]

Health care is not a right. Health insurance is not a right. Medical skill is specialized labor and is private property. If you don't like paying for insurance or health care, either get off your ass and go to med school so you can treat yourself, or try working, saving money, and using the market to raise enough capital that you don't need insurance. Too many people like Big fat ed here looking for a big government tit to suck that other people pay for.

[bobeagle3]

Each State in the union needs to be responsible for supplying their citizens a heath care plan. This may have to be financed by a higher tax base, which I hate; but I rather pay higher State taxes than have the Federal gov't dictate a plan which will give them more control over the lives of Amercan citizens and rip the Constitution right down the middle.

[CanadianRockies2005]

As a Canadian I find it attractive to invest some of my money in stocks of American health insurance companies. I dont care if Americans suffer from dropped or denied insurance as long as I make positive return from my investment since I'm already covered by our govt funded health insurance in Canada.

Yes, dont let Obama and San Francisco liberal bigots to implement govt takeover of your health care and help me make some money.

[zalzankavol2]

You've cut and pasted this in a bunch of forums. Probably an Obamarx plant. Too bad your govenment shoves its big fist up your ass and pulls out a 50% capital gains tax and up to a 60% income tax after your feds and provincial taxes are done. Im impressed you even have any disposable income after having been raped in taxes for your "free" healthcare.

[zalzankavol2]

Bob, I disagree in part. I like the idea of making this a states' rights issue and keeping the feds out, however, I do not see any evidence whasoever of any kind of public mandate that universal healthcare come into being. It is Obamarx and other socialists who are trying to re-engineer society and the government who are trumpeting this.

[Jujitsubudda]

Ed Shulz just got his verbal ass kickied

[kevin95611]

How is the proposed bill going to change obesity rates? Total red herring. And he keeps talking about 50 million "Americans" who don't have health insurance, but that figure includes 20 million criminal aliens, foreign nationals who are in this country illegally. Why should American taxpayers provide non-emergency services to criminal aliens?

[ps3508a]

Price is making schultz look like a scrub...but he'll never win on a liberal show.

[Ninekitties]

I think we need a commentary on the real position of the Mayo Clinic.

[animateclay]

There's already a solution that bypasses big government and insurance intervention called flat-rate no-limit primary care. Google it, everyone loves it in Seattle.

[jls123456771]

Ed Shultz needs to look at his eating habits. If he got taxed for being overweight I would bet he would lose some weight.

[jewseyfroot]

RIGHT...when are americans going to take responsibility for what they PUT in their mouth? There are PLENTY of organizations out there to HELP these people to OVERCOME their lack of discipline or IF it is a health issue. BUT...no one can do it for them... DISCIPLINE ....our children today son't even know the definition. BUT, if we are their examples...then no wonder they are out of control.

[HereKitty0120]

Young healthy people do not require the same coverage as older seniors. But insurance companies are mandated by Congress that all the 1012 options be included on everybodies policy. That is what has driven up insurance costs.

We need to go back to the "menu" based policies where you buy what you need and nothing more.

[jasonkyle111]

We are not willing to pay for it.

[bravesrockmysocks]

Hahahaha "you think government can solve obesity!?"

[safetyjdp]

You are not going to get everyone covered because some of them do not want to shell out the bucks for healthcare insurance. I have two sons who choose not to, much to my chagrin. Taxing me to pay for someone elses healthcare is wrong, always wrong.

[aubfan00]

Ed, sadly the government cannot stop the American people from over indulging in food. Obesity is a personal choice and cannot be viewed as a health care issue until the people take responsibility for their own lack of self control.

We do need a better system than that of the UK or Canada. Those citizens sit in line for months.

I am a single parent who has a catastrophic policy, just in case, and it is still overly priced. There are no good choices presently. Sad, isn't?

[bachandl1]

American "over indulging" is not just limitted to food. We are the world's consumers! We take in 25% of the world's resources. It is not something peculiar to the American disposition. It's something peculiar to American CAPITALISM. It's a structural issue, not a personal issue.

[pickledbill]

Just how stupid are you? Seriously. I mean, is your IQ even above 85? Thats a serious question because you are just flocking stupid man.

[ladedi10]

You speak about personal choice and not viewing obesity as a health care issue. That is exactly what this bill is trying to say about abortion. Having an abortion is not a health care issue, and I and many take exception to the fact that we would be asked to fund abortions. This is aside from the fact of the moral issues at stake. Again, we need to take the government out of the equation as much as is possible.

[FluxCapacitor2008]

The only way to make most people happy (you cant make everyone happy) is to have a public option. Most people are not looking for a free lunch but if we had a public and private system we will have competition for both to be cheaper a better. The public option can not be free to people with jobs but it will be less then the private system with its high overhead of CEO pay, shear holder payouts, administrative costs, advertisement, political contributions and so on

[FluxCapacitor2008]

Why would the insurance industry and conservatives be afraid of competition from a two option system if it was a voluntary system and they did not have pay extra tax and they could keep their private system? Win Win!!!

[johnrehman]

Republicans were in control when Pres. Bush was in office and got nothing done to improve the healthcare crisis in the US. Single-Payer is the ONLY option to insurance all Americans and bring down administrative costs. Its so sad to see Tom Price back the current market based system which is based on profit and leaves 47 million Americans Uninsured.

[teleutube]

Clearly Ed Schultz wins the arguments hands down,

market-based, profit-for-health-as-commodity­-model failed, and is failing miserably.

[lowellriggsiam]

It's nice to see another member of the GOP who actually has the mind to think clearly. Go Rep Tom Price!

[jjrglobal]

The problem is that the only people that know how to fix health care are the ones that nobody listens to.

Cancel your ins

Get a catostrophic policy for less than $500 year w/ a high deductible

With the money you saved by not paying for health ins, start a health savings account to pay for your deductible and doctors office visits, prescriptions, ER etc.

Why is it that I can insure my $1.3 million house for $2000 a year, but it costs that much a month to insure my family for HCare?