also, instead of criticising others...I like to watch what people do and use it as a guage to see the holes in my own kung fu...we are family all over the world and should be helpful to our kung fu brothers
good job guys....I saw movements from forms being applied in this sparring...but a lot of times the movements are very subtle..also, through training forms you develop attributes that apply when you fight...the movements aren't the only thing that apply to fighting....training hung gar makes the body tough which is an attributle for example...there is more but you can see it out...thanks for the video of your students
@dirkdigla1914 i konw what you mean to say and you are correct and very insightful to say so. if you are sincerely asking and want to discuss this further send me a private message.
@dirkdigla1914 and pretty hard contact. Which is more practical since a lot of Hung Gar is conditioning of the forearms and hand for blocking and attacking unprotected.
Hung Gar practitioners were actually famous for hurting someone so badly with their conditioned baseball bat forearms with just a block that people would not want to fight them.
Sometimes it's hard to understand martial arts I know. But these are deadly arts developed over 1500 years. They definitely know what they're doing.
@dirkdigla1914 very important too. Besides you don't actually expect real life fighting to look like movie kung fu do you?
Granted they are not traditional using that headgear and equipment and most of the techniques are sloppy. But proper Gung Fu comes with years of practice and is not only a way of life but something you can only be truly good at with dedication and hard work. Gung Fu literally translated means "Hard work to achieve great skill"
@dirkdigla1914 You also have to understand that full movements in those stances creates full body strength and good body mechanics understanding to generate your power. When practiced in those ways you will understand the way in which you need to move your body to make them powerful and damaging attacks.
With the right Sifu to show you the proper application every step of the way, regular practice of forms can turn you into a deadly martial artist. Sparring and other human training is also,
@dirkdigla1914 Traditional forms can also be thought of unwritten encyclopedias of knowledge that can be trained, memorized and taught once they reach a level of skill high enough to teach. It is something used to strengthen the techniques you use to make them combat effective. Any martial artist, even someone in MMA will tell you that the only way to become combat effective in a technique is rigorous practice.
Forms are also sometimes exaggerated movements that need to be decoded.
one thing I always notice is that no one knows how to use distance and footwork. They square off and just throw a bunch of techniques. It gets sloppy and looks like who can take more hits. There is no side stepping, strategy in advance and retreat. Its like two rams butting heads.
@dirkdigla1914: as the description says: Basic Hung kyun techniques and skills.
all the techniques are taken directly from the traditional sets, all the techniques used are not pre-arranged - no Chinese opera, no movie gungfu, but traditional martial art for the modern world, reality based self-defense.
@lghk The forms are the base for any style. This is what you guys misunderstand. Why did you think the masters in the past fought so hard to preserve those Chinese Opera-nonrealitistic-no movie gungfu forms? They must've have some use..right? It's true that the kung fu is exaggerated in movies but a real practitioner will atleast try to apply the forms in real combat. How much time do you spend on forms? 4-7 minutes? I hope not...
not trying to be rude but...ima have to agree with dirkdigla.
@lghk I'm not trying to troll you or anything but calling those forms that some people spend hours upon hours practicing "Chinese Opera" is kinda messed up. Just because you dont want to fight using real Hung Gar it doesnt mean that you should degrade the forms. Although I dont do hung gar myself I do Xingyiquan and the forms work for me....and all I can say is Kung fu is not dead. Dont degrade traditional forms just because you can't use them in sparring or in a real fight. Peace!
hung gar????????
GUSTAVnordwiking 2 months ago
also, instead of criticising others...I like to watch what people do and use it as a guage to see the holes in my own kung fu...we are family all over the world and should be helpful to our kung fu brothers
TheCnice1 4 months ago
good job guys....I saw movements from forms being applied in this sparring...but a lot of times the movements are very subtle..also, through training forms you develop attributes that apply when you fight...the movements aren't the only thing that apply to fighting....training hung gar makes the body tough which is an attributle for example...there is more but you can see it out...thanks for the video of your students
TheCnice1 4 months ago
@dirkdigla1914 i konw what you mean to say and you are correct and very insightful to say so. if you are sincerely asking and want to discuss this further send me a private message.
opticannon 1 year ago
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iiipppiiippp 1 year ago
@dirkdigla1914 and pretty hard contact. Which is more practical since a lot of Hung Gar is conditioning of the forearms and hand for blocking and attacking unprotected.
Hung Gar practitioners were actually famous for hurting someone so badly with their conditioned baseball bat forearms with just a block that people would not want to fight them.
Sometimes it's hard to understand martial arts I know. But these are deadly arts developed over 1500 years. They definitely know what they're doing.
dodongowhoever 1 year ago
@dirkdigla1914 very important too. Besides you don't actually expect real life fighting to look like movie kung fu do you?
Granted they are not traditional using that headgear and equipment and most of the techniques are sloppy. But proper Gung Fu comes with years of practice and is not only a way of life but something you can only be truly good at with dedication and hard work. Gung Fu literally translated means "Hard work to achieve great skill"
My sifu trains us with no pads,
dodongowhoever 1 year ago
@dirkdigla1914 You also have to understand that full movements in those stances creates full body strength and good body mechanics understanding to generate your power. When practiced in those ways you will understand the way in which you need to move your body to make them powerful and damaging attacks.
With the right Sifu to show you the proper application every step of the way, regular practice of forms can turn you into a deadly martial artist. Sparring and other human training is also,
dodongowhoever 1 year ago
@dirkdigla1914 Traditional forms can also be thought of unwritten encyclopedias of knowledge that can be trained, memorized and taught once they reach a level of skill high enough to teach. It is something used to strengthen the techniques you use to make them combat effective. Any martial artist, even someone in MMA will tell you that the only way to become combat effective in a technique is rigorous practice.
Forms are also sometimes exaggerated movements that need to be decoded.
dodongowhoever 1 year ago
one thing I always notice is that no one knows how to use distance and footwork. They square off and just throw a bunch of techniques. It gets sloppy and looks like who can take more hits. There is no side stepping, strategy in advance and retreat. Its like two rams butting heads.
jetle25 1 year ago
@dirkdigla1914: as the description says: Basic Hung kyun techniques and skills.
all the techniques are taken directly from the traditional sets, all the techniques used are not pre-arranged - no Chinese opera, no movie gungfu, but traditional martial art for the modern world, reality based self-defense.
lghk 1 year ago 5
@lghk The forms are the base for any style. This is what you guys misunderstand. Why did you think the masters in the past fought so hard to preserve those Chinese Opera-nonrealitistic-no movie gungfu forms? They must've have some use..right? It's true that the kung fu is exaggerated in movies but a real practitioner will atleast try to apply the forms in real combat. How much time do you spend on forms? 4-7 minutes? I hope not...
not trying to be rude but...ima have to agree with dirkdigla.
ShuyuKoukin 9 months ago
@lghk I'm not trying to troll you or anything but calling those forms that some people spend hours upon hours practicing "Chinese Opera" is kinda messed up. Just because you dont want to fight using real Hung Gar it doesnt mean that you should degrade the forms. Although I dont do hung gar myself I do Xingyiquan and the forms work for me....and all I can say is Kung fu is not dead. Dont degrade traditional forms just because you can't use them in sparring or in a real fight. Peace!
ShuyuKoukin 9 months ago
Jak dlouho cvičí tihle borci?
havirovak 2 years ago
v prumeru rok a pul, Hung Kyun saan da se vetsina z nich venuje cca. pul roku
lghk 2 years ago
Big props to Pavels Hung Kuen club in prague !
FrankBolte 2 years ago
thank you for your supppor of full contact gungfu fighting!
lghk 2 years ago