Duno of the planes were ther or nt BUT jet fuel CANNOT burn to such a temperature to collapse a building. Proven by many top scientists around the world. They believe C4 had been used. Thats the only way!
It's obvious that the "terrorists" wouldn't of been able to fly those planes into those buildings the way they did. No doubt, they were patsies, probably boarding the planes for different reasons then they originally thought. They were used as pawns. Those planes were CLEARLY taken over by remote control. There's no other explanation. John Lear says there's no planes and wreckage- that's simply not true. Witnesses saw the planes hit..@ the WTC & Pentagon...don't see how you can argue that point.
@Cap420 The chances of remote planes missing their targets and crashing into the streets of New York for the watching world to see would have been to high a risk for the "real" terrorists.
study the crash footage and see how blatantly fake it is.
@cartoonplanes Then what in your opinion hit the towers? Clearly people in NYC saw the plane- or whatever it was- and they saw it "crash" into the building. I would think us laymans aren't exactly privy to all the technology available to those in power. I would waiver to guess they have the technology to fly remote controlled plans according to their plans flawlessly without fail. 9-11 was probable years and years in the works and every possible outcome was most likely discussed ad nauseam.
@Cap420 Many people claim there were thousands of witnesses who saw planes hit the towers,yet have serious problems in naming just 10 with no connection to the gov / media,why is it that witnesses claiming to have seen no planes were replaced for the evening news with people pushing the "official" theory...and if the gov spent years studying every possible outcome why didn't they think of the crator that would have been created by the engine dropping 700ft onto the asphalt on Murray Street.
@Cap420 Remote controlled planes or even real passenger planes would not slice through the steel structured towers completely intact,without having their fragile wing tips & tail-section ripped off on contact by the force of impact.All pre-fabricated footage showing cgi planes makes a mockery of crash physics & is an insult to anyone with the ability to think for themselves.
Here's how I decipher this information. This guy obviously has legit credentials. He's been a pilot for years, and he just talked about, like many pilots have, that it would be nearly impossible to hit the targets the "terrorists" did with such precession. John Lear just said at the height of his career he wouldn't of been able to hit those targets. In this area, I think John Lear is highly credible....certainly he has the credentials and experience to make such claims.
You believe if people are not convinced by your few videos, that do not even rise to circumstantial evidence, Your vanity and pride is blinding you to the truth, which is that you do not have enough evidence for people to deny or to surrender what they have seen with their own eyes as eyewitnesses and what they saw on televiison. It is not a matter of believing or not believing someone else. You are asking them not to believe that they themselves have seen.
@anastasia2657 your lack of any basic ability to understand and decipher information is keeping you ignorant. Stop posting. Your spewing utter nonsense.
Photographs are not good evidence for they are subject to distortion and sometimes even interpretation. What looks like a "nose out" plane can simply be debris that "looks like" the nose of a plane. All can be explained, and as long as there is a reasonable "explanation", they will never accept "no planes."
I made a new playlist for people eager to debate serious 9/11 researchers about "planes" and "hijackers" being part of 9/11. Before you post, watch this very short playlist and wake up to the fact that no planes hit the WTC towers: /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
I can assure you that people don't like arguing this point of "no planes" any more than non-believers like hearing about it, but the truth is the truth. No planes.
To say it is "impossible" for a plane to go at that speed, and to say it is "impossible" for a plane to fly into the WTC without "crashing", without "deceleration", , means you must conclude that it is fake, and this is what people cannot do. They know it's impossible, but they cannot draw the conclusion that the plane is fake, which they must. They will deny the laws of Newton rather than say "it is impossible for a plane to go into the WTC without deceleration & without crashing.
Jeff Hill telephoned more than several airline pilots and aeronautical engineers who said it was "impossible" for a plane to fly 500 mph, no less 560 mph, at that level above ground.
@anastasia2657 Exactly. Ask any pilot and they will confirm this. I asked half a dozen pilots over the past 2 years and each confirmed that these 500mph+ speeds at sea level are impossible with commercial planes. But note that people posting on youtube forums are not interested in truth. They are focused on trying to make the work of serious 9/11 researchers look "silly" by posting ridicule and BS disinfo. Most are being paid to do this, some are genuinely misguided.
@anthonyc31 Instead of saying tthat those calculating the speed made a mistake about the speed, you conclude that because the plane could not go at that speed, there were no planes? Pilots have said that they could have souped up those commercial planes to make them go that fast. I don't mind people "investigating" this event, even investigating that there were no planes, but until someone comes up with a better explanation, we have no choice but to accept that it was planes.
@anastasia2657 (Part 1 of 2) let me help you see the problem that serious 9/11 researches have with "planes". One of the most famous 9/11 videos broadcast on Sept. 11, 2001 showed flight "United 175" supposedly crash into WTC 2 (South Tower) and continued through the steel framed WTC 2 building to "crash" out the other side. This video clip was shown over and over again. ...
@anastasia2657 (Part 2 of 2) Upon much closer examination of that video showing "F175" hit WTC2, several 9/11 researchers with video and graphical backgrounds noticed a serious problem with the footage. The video showed the supposed aluminum "plane" coming out the other side of the building with it's nose in tact. This would be utterly impossible. Further examination showed that the video was fake. This led to research of all "plane" videos and the "9/11 plane" hoax became clear.
@anthonyc31 Who said they were "fake".? I never heard that, and I would have to know the people who made this claim, and what they base it upon. This "fake" video had to have come out immediately, on the day of 911. People say they saw this video on the day of 911 on television. You are saying that the video is fake, and all those peple are lying? I'm willing to accept that, but I woudl need the evidence. .
@anastasia2657 before you post more blithering comments, i suggest you actually re-read what i posted and research the topic. That means, you will have to take time to actually review evidence. AND before make another brainless comment, i ALREADY provided you with the evidence to review seeing as you are proving yourself inept at simply reading comments, so i can only assume "having to look for the videos yourself" (gasp) would be completely out of the question.
@anastasia2657 See my other 2 replies to you for an explanation, then review these links: No Planes 1. Where did this FRAUD come from ? watch?v=vEoievoxces 2. No real Planes @ 911 watch?v=Xlj1mVD2-HM 3. NOSED OUT watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ Plane Speed 1. 9/11 WTC impossible speeds confirmed watch?v=CtDa7B_LG10 2. Pilots for 9/11 Truth: Airplane speed watch?v=HdbBly5iz0E 3. 911 truth 767 Pilot say's no way the planes or terrorist are real watch?v=qXOLiOcwOls
@anastasia2657 A BIG thanks to some of the other people on this forum that have INSPIRED me to continue posting my research. I just made this playlist to help you realize why so many serious 9/11 researchers have concluded that the planes were, unfortunately, fake:
Yes. Absoulutely Illogical that there were no planes. The no planes theories have even been exposed to be created by people affiliated with intelligence service to damage the truth movement! It is a FAKE CLAIM! And poeple who once promoted them discover that.
@Thetan1974 Is it logical to assume that ALL no-planers work for intelligence services? That would mean that everyone who fav'd September Clues is an intelligence operative. This is why I believe you are illogical. The logical thing to do is listen to a pilot. How about a pilot who flew the actual planes in question? Google Russ Wittenberg. He flew both routes 175 and 11. He says no pilot could do what was alleged. Check it yourself:
It possible to assume that there were planes - but certainly not standard 767's, of coruse.
It possible to not just assume, but to be AWARE thet the no-plane BS is created with the goal of making the 9/11 truth movement look like nuts and to shift the view away form facts like THESE:
@Thetan1974 First you say all no-planers are intelligence agents, then you say some are dupes. You are not consistent. Did you watch the video of the pilot who flew both of the planes in NY? No response to that?
Excuse me, but you're a retard; I said that the no plane theories were created for the sake of dividing the truth movement and making us look like idiotic conspiracy theorists. I didn't say that the idiots who have FALLEN for those theories - such as yourself - are intelligence agents. Are you too stupid to understand the difference?? Well, that explains why you are a no-planer, doesn't it!
@ThoughtCrime7 Sure, I saw John Lear who also says no planes. And there's no one in the Pilots for 9/11 Truth community to back him up on that idiotic conclusion. To think that there were no planes - and thereby believe that everyone who saw planes are lying and that the planes were all faked on TV - in stead of the obvious Zakheim's remote controlled Boeings theory, is beyond stupidity - nomatter how difficult Lear thinks it would be to RC those planes; he deos not know the secret technology.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
3 QUESTIONS THAT THETAN LOVES TO GIVE TO ctcole77
The bombs in the basements were obviously to weaken the structure to help the progress of the "collapses."
The planes were obviously remotely controlled to hit specific floors in the buildings. But only the investigation that you fear so deeply will answer fully to that.
He was a CIA asset set up to look like the master planner. Doesn't explain cover-up, remote controlled planes and CD's.
@Thetan1974 John Lear is one of the CORE MEMBERS of Pilots for 9/11 Truth. Re NY, virtually all at P4911T say, maneuvers impossible, speed impossible, impact without recoil impossible. Remote control has the same problems. Most at P4911T say no plane hit the Pentagon, although that was taboo a few years ago. Study of 12,000 eye witnesses (Ace Baker) shows only 8% saw and heard the second plane. Live witnesses on news said small plane, large plane, missile, no plane, no windows, etc.
10 fu*kin years & we're STILL distracted. The more "thories" the longer the distraction. THIS is why the Alex Jonses of the world havent been whacked. The powers that be let us do it to ourselves. The days of govt propaganda are moving into an era where they just let us tear each other apart arguing over nothing. It's called "divide & conquer". They plant the seed of war, let the warring parties do all the hard work, then mop up & own the joint. Just stop participating...fight them on your terms
@f1471in3r i wish people would just be curious enough to do their own research. The truth is there if you look. Ignore my opinion, ignore the opinions of proponents, and definitely ignore anyone that discourages you from looking for the truth and asking questions. Leave your preconceived opinions aside, and study the evidence carefully. I found Dimitri Khalezov to be the most logical, the most detailed the most credible of all evidence. I encourage all to watch his testimony.
anthony31 is correct. because if no planer gets out and people see the truth, it means the big 5 medias were all in on it....not just in on it but they were the ones who stabbed the heart of the united states, then even worse, blamed the "radical muslims" that only exist in zio world....and sellouts like beck, o'reilly, hannity and all the rest....the entire left right kabal is owned by cfr which is the rothschilds, the people the congress let enslave us for nothing other than personal wealth
@sssssjjjj1 it is not an enjoyable fact to debate. I hate talking about "no planes" but unfortunately it is the truth. No real planes hit those towers. I did not believe this fact at all when i first heard it. I thought it was total BS ... until i spent time and researched it. Sorry to those genuinely confused that think no planers are crazy ... unfortunately, the truth is not idealistic. It's just the truth. No planes. No hijackers (most are still alive for fuck sakes).
bless you peoples hearts. I don't see how you tie your shoes. I guess you wear boots. ALUMINUM SKINNED tube still won't slice through steel and concrete, plowing through multiple floors the length of the building and the sets of 36in. gurders. hahahhah. then "nose out" there were no crash physics....it would have hit the building and the tail would have broke off and fell to the street. that building was a brickshiz house bubba'. I'm a master metallurgist and THIS is the smoking gun.
@sssssjjjj1 quite right...jones,gage and many others would have us all chasing our tails for years to come trying to prove how wtc7 came down when as we all know all evidence has conveiniently been dissposed off...better off sticking to the clearly faked "airplanes" broadcast by the ever complicit media.
If you believe this guy, you also believe that little gray aliens are not only abducting us, but are also using humans as a food source, that a "secret government" is conspiring with these aliens in underground bases, releasing androids (MiBs) into the populace, traveling into the future to see antichrist, and claim that Bush runs the international drug market.
This man doesn't even SOUND credible. HE is the real "CLACKER" and laughs all the way to his bank funded by dopes without a clue.
I guess those of us that were actually there, just thousands of normal nobodies watching the 1st tower burn (most of us were inside when we heard or heard about it and went down, running TOWARD the towers) then SAW, with our own eyes what was CLEARLY a UA plane slam into the 2nd Tower were all having a simultaneous MK4 Ultra hallucination -- right?
I wonder how much overlap there is between 9/11 "Truthers", moon landing nuts, and "Illuminati" freaks there really is. Are they all the same?
Flight 175 is consistantly shown flying at approx. 625 mph in every piece of footage available - check it out for yourselves - even John Lears estimated 400 to 500 MPH is impossible, but how impossible is 625mph?
I've seen all the footage, read all the reports and all the independent studies.
The world trade centre complex was a biomechanical holographonic direct data projection from the moon and an orbiting syzygy of three solid titanium photonic-reintegration hyper-actualization satellites . There were no buildings. This is fact people!
look guys , im as skeptical about the official story like most....who knows what really happened............but to assume there was no planes is just absolutely fuckin ridiculous........
@lonewolf2379 is it? only BBC and CNN showed the planes... no tv and/or radio stations who was there live never ever reported any planes, they always refered to "another explosion! !" NEVER any "look, a airplane!!"
Serious question,, I promise: If there were no planes, and thus, no passengers, what of the alleged victims' families? If none of those people existed then all of those people would have to be lying when they talk of their deceased family members, no? Or, alternatively, if they did exist but didn't die, where are they now?
If , I mean IF there wasn’t any plane that hit the WTC, wouldn’t those responsible take a chance that some one had a video of it, especially the 2nd impact? Not everyone would have ran and give their video to the FBI.
@eugenemr Every video that exist today was turned into the FBI. There isn't one video in existence that hasn't been touched by the authorities.
There could be copies out there that haven't been viewed by anyone other than the person that filmed it. Also, keep in mind. If holograms were used the planes that do show up in the footage could be nothing more than holograms.
The FBI wouldn't need to get a hold of the footage if holographic planes show up in the video footage. Think about it.
VERY GOOD VIDEO. The reason that debunkers (i.e. disinfo agent scumbags) fight the "no plane" explanation tooth and nail is because IT'S TRUE. The disinfo scum fighting the "no plane" truth are willing to concede all other points about 911 to appear like they are "911 truthers", but they cannot and will not concede this last point because it's central to their fraud. No planes = no hijackers. They need hijackers to justify the wars ...
@anthonyc31 "No planes = no hijackers. They need hijackers to justify the wars", You can still have a war if it was a missile. Just blame it on one of the tyrants, Or say terrorist stole a missile, or claim they put bombs in the buildings, or claim one of the terrorist set the whole building on fire.
oh and if it was a plane and fires that took the towers out, with didn't the sprinklers go off?
@anthonyc31 Not every debunker is a difinfo agent employed by the Government. Grow the fuck up. People that say shit like that make the entire truth movement look like paranoid wackjobs. If someone wants to "debunk" something- let them try. Info is good. Most debunkers are pretty intelligent, but also some of the most naive people I've EVER come in contact with. Most take every "official" news report as gospel. Well guess what...the gospel is bullshit, as are official news reports.
@Cap420 it sure appears that way. I hate to think that so many good people that show interest in looking for the truth fail to see the truth when it's finally in front of them. I shouldn't be so hard on most, but unfortunately there are just too many posters that are clearly motivated to misinform and outright mislead people with BS lies. I have no patience to deal with this, so i resort to treating everyone making bogus statements with very sharp comments and repair any damage later.
The no plane explaination is the most damaging to the truth movement.
Of course there were planes. They were not just standard Boeings.
Remote controlled planes = no "hijackers" piloted them
Claiming "no planes" = being looked at like absolute nutcases that claims that the hundred of poeple who saw the planes are lying. Sickening and damaging to the truth movement.
@Thetan1974 There were no planes. Again, anyone that continues to push this fucking 9/11 deception of "planes" crashing into buildings on 9/11 is either: A) an innocent deceived person (fair enough, don't post comments until you do research) B) an inept 9/11 researcher (again, don't post until you dig deeper) C) scumbag disinfo agent. Next, you need to realize that ALL the "truth movements" have been infiltrated by disinfo scumbags that are working hard to keep the truth buried.
@Thetan1974 There were no planes. Again, anyone that continues to push this fucking 9/11 deception of "planes" crashing into buildings on 9/11 is either: A) an innocent deceived person (fair enough, don't post comments until you do research) B) an inept 9/11 researcher (again, don't post until you dig deeper) C) scumbag disinfo agent. Next, you need to realize that ALL the "truth movements" have been infiltrated by disinfo scumbags that are working hard to keep the truth buried.
JOHN LEAR SOUNDS LIKES A FOOL. JUST COS HE'S A PILOT DOESNT MEAN HE'S NOT A CRACK POT, COZ HE IS, heres proof : y0utubE.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY&feature=related
The media covered it up, the planes were not real, just big remote controlled kites or holokites. The media trunk line was split up and directed through the CIA and they photoshopped the pictures of planes in. Its obvious... cant you see it ... DUH!!!!
@mcRioRemedy are you interested in learning the truth or do you want to continue believing the MASSIVE bullshit lie that was 9/11 which involved "planes" and "hijackers"? If you want the truth, put everything you thought you knew about 9/11 aside. Everything. Watch Dimitri Khalezov's testimony, not theory. If you'd like to focus on learning why the "planes" are fake, start here: /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
@mcRioRemedy I wanted to share the playlist. It contains 6 short videos that, taken together, should help you realize that the 9/11 "plane" deception is very real. At the very least, it should inspire you to research this topic seriously. In case you're not technical, YouTube does not let full links be posted. So, whenever you see partial links, make sure you enter w w w {dot} youtube {dot} com in the address then copy and paste /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569 after it.
@mcRioRemedy ok stupid fuck .... show me a somewhat significant plane part at the WTC or Pentagon for that matter .. you had 6 BIG plane wings to choose from, 3 BIG sections of fuselage to show and lets not forget those 3 BIG tail wings to point out and LOTS and LOTS of plane seats and oh ya, bodies. Ohhh, but they sure did find those tiny paper passports of those "hijackers" real fast. You're so stupid that you're not worth wasting time on.
@mcRioRemedy Do you really believe a 767 could slice through a steel structured tower "completely" intact?
Do you really believe (as you claim) there a hundred videos of the impact shot from different angles?
Do you believe the "jumpers" could land 60ft from the base of the towers,twice the distance of the current long jump world record with a damn good run-up?
Do you believe everything the media tell you,without hesitation?
the planes that hit the towers were MILITARY planes, not passenger jets. military planes' maneuverability is substantially greater than passenger jets' maneuverability.
the no-planers believe that no planes hit the Twin Towers - even though many amateur videographers captured the planes hitting the Towers.
the no-planers claim that all of the amateur videographers got together and, in a few hours, created computer-generated imagery that matched from all angles.
and . . . the no-planers believe that amateur videographers created computer-generated images of MILITARY planes (not passenger jets) flying into the twin towers.
@jockdoubleday Anthony Lawson has written a paper thoroughly refuting the no-planers' claims. It's called, "The following is a review by Anthony Lawson of 'The 9/11 Airplane Video Composites.'"
Anthony's article is available on the Web as a downloadable .pdf file.
google: "The following is a review, by Anthony Lawson"
You can view it or free with Quick View or download the .pdf to your computer for free and then view it.
@RomneyPHONY Watch 911 Science and Conspiracy which aired on National Geographic channel last night. Excellent look into why truthers will not accept facts that disprove their theories when they are laid out right in front of them.
Also read Voodoo Histories by David Aaronovitch, mor one why truthers try so hard to hang onto their conspiracy stories even when they don't have a single thread of evidence to back them up,
I think all the flying has screwed this mans head up, hell he spends most of his time chasing UFO's so that tell how wack he is. So a jet airliner hiting a wall of glass going 500mph is supose to crumple up and fall to the ground? This nut claims there is no way the plane could be traveling 500mph? So why is it's max "cruise" speed 568mph? Just another conpiracy nut looking for attention. When will truthers learn nobody is buying their bullshit?
@LAGunBroker max cruise speed is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the alledged "hijackers" ability to control any large airline at low altitude (air density) and crash with pinpoint accuracy.
@cartoonplanes Hey the nut in the video is the one who brought cruise speed, I just corrected him. He said the plane was not able to travel 500mph. All the self proclaimed experts keep saying the planes could not make those maneuvers. There's a video of a pilot doing stunts in a piper aerostar, stunts the plane can not do, unless the pilot pushes the plane past what it was originally designed for, just as the terrorist did.
@cartoonplanes I fly a 1968 Cessna 310, what do you fly? I've never tried doing stunts in mine or pushing it to it's limits but I am confident that it will do a lot more than it was originally designed for. I've watched Marine pilots do some crazy shit in planes. Sure these terrorist didn't have that kind of training but they had one thing professionals didn't have (or actually do have) a value of life. These aholes didn't care because they were going to die anyway
Middle Eastern 'oil resources' were one of the key motives for war of Britain with Germany in the early 1900's. The video comedy has an underlying ring of truth to it. Google search: The History of Oil - by Robert Newman
It puts things together for the common layman.
European banking privateers took control of the American monetary system.
youtube search: The Criminal Rothschilds
Those two clips ought to provide the motive for taking down the Arab axis-of-oil-bearing nations
Jack ass- Its not that they wouldn't do it, of course they would do it...It is that couldnt do it and get away with it. The thousands of patriots in positions in the know, would not allow that to happen and would blow a huge whistle if it did happen. The chinese would say something, the russians would say something and the rest of the world would not just stand bye and allow these wars in the name of a fake attack....Fake victim list? Real nice.Show me one person still alive..
people should be clear on the financial payouts to alledged "victms",the victim compensation fund (VCF) was 7 billion dollars,and the less publicised business compensation fund (BCF) which was a staggering 38.4 billion dollars,and let's not forget about the alledged trillions of dollars that went "missing" from the pentagon budget..surely this is more than enough to finance the whole 9/11 fiasco and silence a few doubters..god i know many people who'd keep hush for just a few thousand.
@amphibwarrior0321 hey numb nuts,only you mentioned bank robbery,i merely said it went "missing".stop exaggerating about the "millions" of witnesses and remember as each day passes more and more people are waking up to the truth,so i suggest you go to your government employers and tell them your failing at your job,shill.
to anyone else interested try researching the the occupency figures of the wtc recently released under the freedom of information act.
Jack ass- It didn't go missing, it was that they couldn't account for it in records and he was high lighting the bad record keeping of the previous administration. More and more people are not wakening up that 9/11 was an inside job, people don't take you serious...Thinking the gov lied about certain aspect of 9/11 and thinking terrorism is fake are two different things.
The US has never been able to keep a secret, your theories dont make tactical sense...You are a liar
@amphibwarrior0321 "the US has never been able to keep a secret"....that's only true if you & i know absolutley everything the gov have ever done,which is highly unlikely.
the pentagon "it didn't go missing,they COULDN'T account for it in records"...sounds like it's gone missing.
try explaining how the hollow aluminium "planes" managed to slice through the steel outer walls of the wtc in one piece without losing their "fragile" wing tips & tail-section,bear in mind newtons "law of motion"
It means they didn't do a good job of accounting and when they switched over from paper to computer, it wasn't easy to track...Not it went missing...
Aluminum planes went through steel the way hay goes through plywood in a tornado. Speed and force of impact.
Newtons law of motion? Are you seriously saying all of the worlds leading experts and schools that have researched the events of 9/11 have all forgotten or overlooked this little aspect of supposedly defying laws of motion?..
We only need to look at the much smaller and much less illegal actions that they couldn't get away with to know this massive silly theory requiring thousands of willing participants couldn't be kept secret and wouldn't be carried out in this manner....It makes ZERO tactical sense
@amphibwarrior0321 the "planes" are fake CGI animations that defy even basic laws of physics,(unless of course you can prove sir isaac newtons' wrong & your right)..and it's been proven with a pre-9/11 non-fiction book that documents the "emptying" of the towers & the recently released occupency rates of the towers made availible under the FOIA that the story of "alledged" victims is false...in fact the only "truth" that you've been told is that the wtc is now gone.
Good job changing the subject...and the plane parts found on site? The thousands of people who saw it happen in person? So you think they faked the last 32 years of al qaeda intel but got busted because of a FOIA request? How stupid are you? You are probably the most out of touch truther i have ever seen...You are sad and ignorant. Your theories are 100% lies and nobody will ever take you or this self titled truth movement serious...Thats why it is rapidly dwindling away...
@amphibwarrior0321 maybe you should watch the BBC documentary where CIA officials openly admit that "al qaeda" is a complete and total fabrication having never existed at any time..or try watching the youtube video "BBC now admits al qaeda never existed"...how dumb & brainwashed are you,if as you believe the "planes" were real then please explain how they sliced through the wtc intact without losing its wing tips or tail-section....you cannot prove a lie
Ive seen that documentary and its garbage....Just because someone says something, doesnt make it true..Try doing some research, reading books written by people who have been there..Al Qaeda is real, Ive been there...Making something up this big for 30+ years and not getting caught is a foolish idea. Watch BBC shows about al qaedas leadership...since them showing a flick is all u need to verify somethings exists .
HUNDREDS of people saw it happen....NONE saw a missile. and THATS BULLSHIIT. Planes can fly that speed that low, they aren't designed too, but can.....Google "high speed fly by" and watch for yourself...
the wtc was a huge asbestos filled "white elephant" whose legal demolition was far too costly,the towers were brought down by elements within the gov / military with the co-operation of the media / owner & the imeediate blame put on al qaeda.the CGI planes were only ever seen on tv & used to guarentee public support for the non-existant & never ending "war on terror"
And the millions who saw it happen from line of sight buildings in NYC and NJ? Were they all involved in this massive cover up too? This many people can not keep a secret.....
@amphibwarrior0321 if the govs.story is to be believed (LOL) extremely few would have seen the 1st hit as it was totally unexpected,and by the time of the second most people would have been pushed so far back all they would have seen was smoke,so stop "bullshitting" with your "millions" of alledged witnesses.the fact is many people saw the wtc come down,went home & saw "planes" on TV.the idea of any "planes" was implanted in the nations sub-conscious by the media.
They did not clear out all the buildings in Manhattan and New Jersey with a line of sight of the WTC. We cant dump water on a terrorists head without everyone knowing, yet you think we can keep this secret? How stupid and out of touch are you?
You are the worst of the truthers.......Fools even by there definition.
try reading "divided we stand" written by eric darton in 1999 it describes how the wtc was progressively emptied (relocated) of tenants from '93 onwards & only virtual space later leased,now what makes more sense a non-fiction book written pre-9/11 or the governments fairytail version of events..
..and check the wtc occupency figures made availible recently under the freedom of information act.
no planes..no victims..no guilty conscience for the government.
@koolbossjock like i said,check the "real" occupency figures of the wtc recently released under the freedom of information act,and watch the following:
911 memorial scam clones...
911 honor the vicsims...
911 actors...
the ONLY fact about 9/11 told to you by the government is that the towers are gone,the rest is bullshit...wake up,your television is a "weapon of mass distraction"
any "real" planes would explode "ON" contact with the wtc and debris blown in all directions,aluminium wing tips & tail-section can't slice through steel like a hot knife through butter,and "remote" planes couldn't be used as the danger of them missing their targets & crashing into the streets of NY for the waiting world to see was to big a risk,couldn't blame al qaeda for having access to these.sorry shills but the only "planes" guarenteed to hit their target & leave no wreckage are CGI planes
See how they try to disrupt a important video of a professional who knows airplanes .
What part of "aiplanes can't do that " don't you understand ? 757-767 take off at 175 mph you shill . Let me ask you do they spray chemtrails where you live ?
@SAYYOURROSARY At what speed? What does speed have to do with it? LOL You are stupid. Lot's of people saw it. You are a fool and an embarrassment to the truth movement. Please kill yourself.
@MrSafetymeeting Oh yea I believe you ! The engines are turbo fans and would act like anchors you fool .
The flight never took off you fool . You are a shill or a liar . The speeed matters because the wings would break off at that air density . YOU saw nothing but maybe the explosion if that .
@SAYYOURROSARY What speed? What are you talking about? Did you think I said something about speed? I didn't. You are a MORON. Please go to bed so the grown ups can talk seriously. How does a plane take off and land if it can't fly at that altitude? Work on that for a while. LOL
@amphibwarrior0321 Nobody but actors saw anything . Nobody saw plane hit but on TV . where it was inserted via CGI CartoonPlanes is 100% correct on this
@anonymoustruther2 You're right. Your opinion is worthless as you are clearly an asshole here trying to make 9/11 truther look insane. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE. All I said was my family watched the second plane hit. I don't give a shit what you think
@Steelerguy6178 you think muslim people aren't capable of flying planes or planning to fuck with the states? wake up, idiot. people are all capable evil, not just white americans. to not believe that is to be a racist fuck.
haha um... the bureau of transportation statistics? where in the fuck is he getting this information? if we can't find it, he can't. simply put. this man is a fucking moron. i hate people who say shit like "anyone with any experience at all could not believe this." it's such a pathetic tactic, but it works on morons who love to buy into conspiracy theories. god what a tool.
@LegPains It might be easier to relate to your nonsense if you weren't such an irrational douchebag. Unfortunately for you, nobody ever taught you how to talk to people. You're going to have a hard time finding people stupid enough to try to discuss things with you. You are a joke . Maybe just a troll. Either way, I'm bored.
if you believe Planes were used thats fine and you are entitled to this Opinion, but to go as far as Lying about your Grandparents witnessing the planes is lower than the lowest, people died on 911, show some respect and at least be Honest , regardless if you agree with someone or not
@LegPains It's true. Why would I be ashamed? lol. I don't give out my families info to random assholes on the web. You theory that this proves something is absolutely delusional.
Hey Grandpa, stop hiding behind your furniture, America wants to hear your story ! SPEAK UP you old wrikled up piece of shit, start speaking, we want answers of what you saw where you were and you better be prepared to answer ALOT of ?s.
if you're not ready to publicly speak than stop Lying about what you saw, stop hiding behind your Pussy of a grandson here, SPEAK GRANDPA you fool
Sure, but Only if you agree to bring those 2 old worn out Pieces of shit, your grandparents i wanna ask Grandma and Grandpa ALOT of Questions , if they are gonna say they saw planes i have ALOT of ?s for them and they better be ready to answer them specifically and directly.
Im gonna grill them with questions, what do you say ? im ready, do we have a deal pal ?
@LegPains I'm sure they would love to participate in your lunacy if they didn't have jobs. They would probably find you quite amusing. They're artists and love wierdos.
So your grandparents are just like you, Lying sacks of shit and cowards ? Of course i Knew ud back right down when asked which is why i asked because its so easy to demonstrate how you are a Liar.
Your grandparents didnt see anything and you are hiding behind your computer monitor. Truth be told Grandma and grandpa didnt see anything and are prob dead LOL
@LegPains LOL Yer funny and the likely shill here. The no planes stuff is ridiculous. All you would have to do is look at my channel to see what I believe about 9/11. I don't believe the official story at all but your angle is fucking ABSURD. You make the other 9/11 truth people look completely insane. My grandparents aren't even retired, let alone senile or dead. Why would somebody talk to a stranger and have a serious converstion about something they think is nonsense? FUCK OFF
Fact is your Grandparents are old senile wrinkled pieces of dog shit , Worthless human debri and pieces of garbage waiting to croak, and they didnt witness anything. You are a blatant Liar and you were shown to be so easily
Duno of the planes were ther or nt BUT jet fuel CANNOT burn to such a temperature to collapse a building. Proven by many top scientists around the world. They believe C4 had been used. Thats the only way!
Omarizationable 2 weeks ago
John Lear is either bat shit crazy of the most aware human being on Earth. I just wish I could figure out which.
RAIDERS58th 2 weeks ago
It's obvious that the "terrorists" wouldn't of been able to fly those planes into those buildings the way they did. No doubt, they were patsies, probably boarding the planes for different reasons then they originally thought. They were used as pawns. Those planes were CLEARLY taken over by remote control. There's no other explanation. John Lear says there's no planes and wreckage- that's simply not true. Witnesses saw the planes hit..@ the WTC & Pentagon...don't see how you can argue that point.
Cap420 2 weeks ago
@Cap420 The chances of remote planes missing their targets and crashing into the streets of New York for the watching world to see would have been to high a risk for the "real" terrorists.
study the crash footage and see how blatantly fake it is.
cartoonplanes 1 week ago
@cartoonplanes Then what in your opinion hit the towers? Clearly people in NYC saw the plane- or whatever it was- and they saw it "crash" into the building. I would think us laymans aren't exactly privy to all the technology available to those in power. I would waiver to guess they have the technology to fly remote controlled plans according to their plans flawlessly without fail. 9-11 was probable years and years in the works and every possible outcome was most likely discussed ad nauseam.
Cap420 1 week ago
@Cap420 Many people claim there were thousands of witnesses who saw planes hit the towers,yet have serious problems in naming just 10 with no connection to the gov / media,why is it that witnesses claiming to have seen no planes were replaced for the evening news with people pushing the "official" theory...and if the gov spent years studying every possible outcome why didn't they think of the crator that would have been created by the engine dropping 700ft onto the asphalt on Murray Street.
cartoonplanes 1 week ago
@Cap420 Remote controlled planes or even real passenger planes would not slice through the steel structured towers completely intact,without having their fragile wing tips & tail-section ripped off on contact by the force of impact.All pre-fabricated footage showing cgi planes makes a mockery of crash physics & is an insult to anyone with the ability to think for themselves.
SeptembercluesDOTinfo
cartoonplanes 1 week ago
@Cap420 he's 100% right...
the CGI aired by the media is SO BAD!!!
the BOEING 'wreckage' was NON EXISTENT...
only small, easily planted bits of metal...RIDICULOUS... like an arab passport & bandana!!!!
fucking fiction...COMEDY, if you really get into it...
IT'S PATHETIC!!!
their scripts suck! their plotlines suck!!!! & their ANIMATORS are D GRADE FUCKING BUFFOONS!!!!
2Xyousee 1 week ago
Here's how I decipher this information. This guy obviously has legit credentials. He's been a pilot for years, and he just talked about, like many pilots have, that it would be nearly impossible to hit the targets the "terrorists" did with such precession. John Lear just said at the height of his career he wouldn't of been able to hit those targets. In this area, I think John Lear is highly credible....certainly he has the credentials and experience to make such claims.
Cap420 2 weeks ago
FUCKING IDIOT THIS GUY IS NUTS
ciph3r2012 2 weeks ago
You believe if people are not convinced by your few videos, that do not even rise to circumstantial evidence, Your vanity and pride is blinding you to the truth, which is that you do not have enough evidence for people to deny or to surrender what they have seen with their own eyes as eyewitnesses and what they saw on televiison. It is not a matter of believing or not believing someone else. You are asking them not to believe that they themselves have seen.
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 your lack of any basic ability to understand and decipher information is keeping you ignorant. Stop posting. Your spewing utter nonsense.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
I went to all the videos you posted. I have already seen them all, but I watched them again. I'm sorry. It's not enough.
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 you are a MORON.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 sorry i change my mind ... you are a TOTAL MORON.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
Photographs are not good evidence for they are subject to distortion and sometimes even interpretation. What looks like a "nose out" plane can simply be debris that "looks like" the nose of a plane. All can be explained, and as long as there is a reasonable "explanation", they will never accept "no planes."
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 you are proving yourself at being yet another retard, or are you being paid like the other scumbag liars up here?
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
I made a new playlist for people eager to debate serious 9/11 researchers about "planes" and "hijackers" being part of 9/11. Before you post, watch this very short playlist and wake up to the fact that no planes hit the WTC towers: /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
I can assure you that people don't like arguing this point of "no planes" any more than non-believers like hearing about it, but the truth is the truth. No planes.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
To say it is "impossible" for a plane to go at that speed, and to say it is "impossible" for a plane to fly into the WTC without "crashing", without "deceleration", , means you must conclude that it is fake, and this is what people cannot do. They know it's impossible, but they cannot draw the conclusion that the plane is fake, which they must. They will deny the laws of Newton rather than say "it is impossible for a plane to go into the WTC without deceleration & without crashing.
anastasia2657 1 month ago 3
@anastasia2657 there were no planes.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 RESEARCH the fucking topic thoroughly before posting this drivel.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31 Get a hold of yourself.
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
Jeff Hill telephoned more than several airline pilots and aeronautical engineers who said it was "impossible" for a plane to fly 500 mph, no less 560 mph, at that level above ground.
anastasia2657 1 month ago
@anastasia2657 Exactly. Ask any pilot and they will confirm this. I asked half a dozen pilots over the past 2 years and each confirmed that these 500mph+ speeds at sea level are impossible with commercial planes. But note that people posting on youtube forums are not interested in truth. They are focused on trying to make the work of serious 9/11 researchers look "silly" by posting ridicule and BS disinfo. Most are being paid to do this, some are genuinely misguided.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31 Instead of saying tthat those calculating the speed made a mistake about the speed, you conclude that because the plane could not go at that speed, there were no planes? Pilots have said that they could have souped up those commercial planes to make them go that fast. I don't mind people "investigating" this event, even investigating that there were no planes, but until someone comes up with a better explanation, we have no choice but to accept that it was planes.
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 (Part 1 of 2) let me help you see the problem that serious 9/11 researches have with "planes". One of the most famous 9/11 videos broadcast on Sept. 11, 2001 showed flight "United 175" supposedly crash into WTC 2 (South Tower) and continued through the steel framed WTC 2 building to "crash" out the other side. This video clip was shown over and over again. ...
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 (Part 2 of 2) Upon much closer examination of that video showing "F175" hit WTC2, several 9/11 researchers with video and graphical backgrounds noticed a serious problem with the footage. The video showed the supposed aluminum "plane" coming out the other side of the building with it's nose in tact. This would be utterly impossible. Further examination showed that the video was fake. This led to research of all "plane" videos and the "9/11 plane" hoax became clear.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31 Who said they were "fake".? I never heard that, and I would have to know the people who made this claim, and what they base it upon. This "fake" video had to have come out immediately, on the day of 911. People say they saw this video on the day of 911 on television. You are saying that the video is fake, and all those peple are lying? I'm willing to accept that, but I woudl need the evidence. .
anastasia2657 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 before you post more blithering comments, i suggest you actually re-read what i posted and research the topic. That means, you will have to take time to actually review evidence. AND before make another brainless comment, i ALREADY provided you with the evidence to review seeing as you are proving yourself inept at simply reading comments, so i can only assume "having to look for the videos yourself" (gasp) would be completely out of the question.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anastasia2657 A BIG thanks to some of the other people on this forum that have INSPIRED me to continue posting my research. I just made this playlist to help you realize why so many serious 9/11 researchers have concluded that the planes were, unfortunately, fake:
/playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" - Sherlock Holmes (Conan Doyle)
Impossible: A 757 flies 560 MPH at 700 feet altitude.
Improbable: 9/11 was a very well funded inside job and millions were fooled.
Do the math.
ThoughtCrime7 3 months ago 6
@ThoughtCrime7 well said.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@ThoughtCrime7
Possible: Modified special military Boeings 757/767's go well at up to 580 mph at sea level and are remote controlled.
Impossible: That every witness to the planes are lying and that the parts found from planes should have been planted without anyone noticing.
Thetan1974 2 days ago
@Thetan1974 Illogical.
ThoughtCrime7 2 days ago
@ThoughtCrime7
Yes. Absoulutely Illogical that there were no planes. The no planes theories have even been exposed to be created by people affiliated with intelligence service to damage the truth movement! It is a FAKE CLAIM! And poeple who once promoted them discover that.
How about you?
Thetan1974 2 days ago
@Thetan1974 Is it logical to assume that ALL no-planers work for intelligence services? That would mean that everyone who fav'd September Clues is an intelligence operative. This is why I believe you are illogical. The logical thing to do is listen to a pilot. How about a pilot who flew the actual planes in question? Google Russ Wittenberg. He flew both routes 175 and 11. He says no pilot could do what was alleged. Check it yourself:
watch?v=LGxKU2B0ZjY
ThoughtCrime7 1 day ago
@ThoughtCrime7
It possible to assume that there were planes - but certainly not standard 767's, of coruse.
It possible to not just assume, but to be AWARE thet the no-plane BS is created with the goal of making the 9/11 truth movement look like nuts and to shift the view away form facts like THESE:
911anomalies. wordpress. com/2007/06/18/south-tower-aircraft-the-evidence-revealed
Thetan1974 1 day ago
@ThoughtCrime7
"That would mean that everyone who fav'd September Clues is an intelligence operative.."
As if they couldn't possibly just be people duped into beleiving that BS? Such as yourself?? Get your head straight, please.
Thetan1974 1 day ago
@Thetan1974 First you say all no-planers are intelligence agents, then you say some are dupes. You are not consistent. Did you watch the video of the pilot who flew both of the planes in NY? No response to that?
ThoughtCrime7 1 day ago
@ThoughtCrime7
Excuse me, but you're a retard; I said that the no plane theories were created for the sake of dividing the truth movement and making us look like idiotic conspiracy theorists. I didn't say that the idiots who have FALLEN for those theories - such as yourself - are intelligence agents. Are you too stupid to understand the difference?? Well, that explains why you are a no-planer, doesn't it!
Thetan1974 1 day ago
@ThoughtCrime7 Sure, I saw John Lear who also says no planes. And there's no one in the Pilots for 9/11 Truth community to back him up on that idiotic conclusion. To think that there were no planes - and thereby believe that everyone who saw planes are lying and that the planes were all faked on TV - in stead of the obvious Zakheim's remote controlled Boeings theory, is beyond stupidity - nomatter how difficult Lear thinks it would be to RC those planes; he deos not know the secret technology.
Thetan1974 1 day ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
ctcole77 1 day ago
3 QUESTIONS THAT THETAN LOVES TO GIVE TO ctcole77
The bombs in the basements were obviously to weaken the structure to help the progress of the "collapses."
The planes were obviously remotely controlled to hit specific floors in the buildings. But only the investigation that you fear so deeply will answer fully to that.
He was a CIA asset set up to look like the master planner. Doesn't explain cover-up, remote controlled planes and CD's.
Thetan1974 18 hours ago
@Thetan1974 John Lear is one of the CORE MEMBERS of Pilots for 9/11 Truth. Re NY, virtually all at P4911T say, maneuvers impossible, speed impossible, impact without recoil impossible. Remote control has the same problems. Most at P4911T say no plane hit the Pentagon, although that was taboo a few years ago. Study of 12,000 eye witnesses (Ace Baker) shows only 8% saw and heard the second plane. Live witnesses on news said small plane, large plane, missile, no plane, no windows, etc.
ThoughtCrime7 18 hours ago
@ThoughtCrime7 correction; 12,00 pages of eyewitness testimony, not 12,000 eye witnesses.
ThoughtCrime7 18 hours ago
10 fu*kin years & we're STILL distracted. The more "thories" the longer the distraction. THIS is why the Alex Jonses of the world havent been whacked. The powers that be let us do it to ourselves. The days of govt propaganda are moving into an era where they just let us tear each other apart arguing over nothing. It's called "divide & conquer". They plant the seed of war, let the warring parties do all the hard work, then mop up & own the joint. Just stop participating...fight them on your terms
f1471in3r 3 months ago 2
@f1471in3r i wish people would just be curious enough to do their own research. The truth is there if you look. Ignore my opinion, ignore the opinions of proponents, and definitely ignore anyone that discourages you from looking for the truth and asking questions. Leave your preconceived opinions aside, and study the evidence carefully. I found Dimitri Khalezov to be the most logical, the most detailed the most credible of all evidence. I encourage all to watch his testimony.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
anthony31 is correct. because if no planer gets out and people see the truth, it means the big 5 medias were all in on it....not just in on it but they were the ones who stabbed the heart of the united states, then even worse, blamed the "radical muslims" that only exist in zio world....and sellouts like beck, o'reilly, hannity and all the rest....the entire left right kabal is owned by cfr which is the rothschilds, the people the congress let enslave us for nothing other than personal wealth
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 it is not an enjoyable fact to debate. I hate talking about "no planes" but unfortunately it is the truth. No real planes hit those towers. I did not believe this fact at all when i first heard it. I thought it was total BS ... until i spent time and researched it. Sorry to those genuinely confused that think no planers are crazy ... unfortunately, the truth is not idealistic. It's just the truth. No planes. No hijackers (most are still alive for fuck sakes).
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
bless you peoples hearts. I don't see how you tie your shoes. I guess you wear boots. ALUMINUM SKINNED tube still won't slice through steel and concrete, plowing through multiple floors the length of the building and the sets of 36in. gurders. hahahhah. then "nose out" there were no crash physics....it would have hit the building and the tail would have broke off and fell to the street. that building was a brickshiz house bubba'. I'm a master metallurgist and THIS is the smoking gun.
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 quite right...jones,gage and many others would have us all chasing our tails for years to come trying to prove how wtc7 came down when as we all know all evidence has conveiniently been dissposed off...better off sticking to the clearly faked "airplanes" broadcast by the ever complicit media.
kansasinnovember 3 months ago
If you believe this guy, you also believe that little gray aliens are not only abducting us, but are also using humans as a food source, that a "secret government" is conspiring with these aliens in underground bases, releasing androids (MiBs) into the populace, traveling into the future to see antichrist, and claim that Bush runs the international drug market.
This man doesn't even SOUND credible. HE is the real "CLACKER" and laughs all the way to his bank funded by dopes without a clue.
TheHorta 4 months ago
I don't believe it would be possible for this guy to be more wrong. Seriously, the hijackers couldn't do it because of a "clacker"?!
This guy is a clacker -- an obnoxious source of annoying sound.
TheHorta 4 months ago
@TheHorta they crashing planes were drones
zelenko2 3 months ago
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I don't believe it would be possible for this guy to be more wrong. C'mon, the hijackers couldn't do it because of a "clacker"?!
This guy is a clacker -- an obnoxious source of annoying sound.
TheHorta 4 months ago
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I don't believe it would be possible for this guy to be more wrong. C'mon, the hijackers couldn't do it because of a "clacker"?!
This guy is a clacker -- an obnoxious source of annoying sound.
TheHorta 4 months ago
I don't believe it would be possible for this guy to be more wrong. C'mon, the hijackers couldn't do it because of a "clacker"?!
This guy is a clacker -- an obnoxious source of annoying sound.
TheHorta 4 months ago
I guess those of us that were actually there, just thousands of normal nobodies watching the 1st tower burn (most of us were inside when we heard or heard about it and went down, running TOWARD the towers) then SAW, with our own eyes what was CLEARLY a UA plane slam into the 2nd Tower were all having a simultaneous MK4 Ultra hallucination -- right?
I wonder how much overlap there is between 9/11 "Truthers", moon landing nuts, and "Illuminati" freaks there really is. Are they all the same?
TheHorta 4 months ago
Flight 175 is consistantly shown flying at approx. 625 mph in every piece of footage available - check it out for yourselves - even John Lears estimated 400 to 500 MPH is impossible, but how impossible is 625mph?
TREACLE97 4 months ago
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NO BUILDINGS THEORY....
I've seen all the footage, read all the reports and all the independent studies.
The world trade centre complex was a biomechanical holographonic direct data projection from the moon and an orbiting syzygy of three solid titanium photonic-reintegration hyper-actualization satellites . There were no buildings. This is fact people!
rockyonemambo 5 months ago
It is possible to remote control a cruise missile in to a chimney-shaft.......This was 1991....
Za7a7aZ 5 months ago
look guys , im as skeptical about the official story like most....who knows what really happened............but to assume there was no planes is just absolutely fuckin ridiculous........
lonewolf2379 5 months ago
@lonewolf2379 is it? only BBC and CNN showed the planes... no tv and/or radio stations who was there live never ever reported any planes, they always refered to "another explosion! !" NEVER any "look, a airplane!!"
xismxist 4 months ago
i agree that there were possibly no planes but maybe they were UAV planes dressed up like boeings. UAVs are highly maneuverable. just a thought
Ir0nF1st924 6 months ago
Serious question,, I promise: If there were no planes, and thus, no passengers, what of the alleged victims' families? If none of those people existed then all of those people would have to be lying when they talk of their deceased family members, no? Or, alternatively, if they did exist but didn't die, where are they now?
bassbole 7 months ago
@bassbole try visiting...septembercluesDOTinfo
kansasinnovember 7 months ago
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@bassbole ....or you could answer the question
bassbole 7 months ago
If , I mean IF there wasn’t any plane that hit the WTC, wouldn’t those responsible take a chance that some one had a video of it, especially the 2nd impact? Not everyone would have ran and give their video to the FBI.
eugenemr 8 months ago
@eugenemr Every video that exist today was turned into the FBI. There isn't one video in existence that hasn't been touched by the authorities.
There could be copies out there that haven't been viewed by anyone other than the person that filmed it. Also, keep in mind. If holograms were used the planes that do show up in the footage could be nothing more than holograms.
The FBI wouldn't need to get a hold of the footage if holographic planes show up in the video footage. Think about it.
EyeThirdThe 7 months ago
VERY GOOD VIDEO. The reason that debunkers (i.e. disinfo agent scumbags) fight the "no plane" explanation tooth and nail is because IT'S TRUE. The disinfo scum fighting the "no plane" truth are willing to concede all other points about 911 to appear like they are "911 truthers", but they cannot and will not concede this last point because it's central to their fraud. No planes = no hijackers. They need hijackers to justify the wars ...
anthonyc31 8 months ago 34
@anthonyc31 absolutley spot on.
kansasinnovember 8 months ago
@anthonyc31 "No planes = no hijackers. They need hijackers to justify the wars", You can still have a war if it was a missile. Just blame it on one of the tyrants, Or say terrorist stole a missile, or claim they put bombs in the buildings, or claim one of the terrorist set the whole building on fire.
oh and if it was a plane and fires that took the towers out, with didn't the sprinklers go off?
Anonymous124578 4 months ago
@anthonyc31 Not every debunker is a difinfo agent employed by the Government. Grow the fuck up. People that say shit like that make the entire truth movement look like paranoid wackjobs. If someone wants to "debunk" something- let them try. Info is good. Most debunkers are pretty intelligent, but also some of the most naive people I've EVER come in contact with. Most take every "official" news report as gospel. Well guess what...the gospel is bullshit, as are official news reports.
Cap420 3 weeks ago
@Cap420 it sure appears that way. I hate to think that so many good people that show interest in looking for the truth fail to see the truth when it's finally in front of them. I shouldn't be so hard on most, but unfortunately there are just too many posters that are clearly motivated to misinform and outright mislead people with BS lies. I have no patience to deal with this, so i resort to treating everyone making bogus statements with very sharp comments and repair any damage later.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31
The no plane explaination is the most damaging to the truth movement.
Of course there were planes. They were not just standard Boeings.
Remote controlled planes = no "hijackers" piloted them
Claiming "no planes" = being looked at like absolute nutcases that claims that the hundred of poeple who saw the planes are lying. Sickening and damaging to the truth movement.
Thetan1974 2 days ago
@Thetan1974 There were no planes. Again, anyone that continues to push this fucking 9/11 deception of "planes" crashing into buildings on 9/11 is either: A) an innocent deceived person (fair enough, don't post comments until you do research) B) an inept 9/11 researcher (again, don't post until you dig deeper) C) scumbag disinfo agent. Next, you need to realize that ALL the "truth movements" have been infiltrated by disinfo scumbags that are working hard to keep the truth buried.
anthonyc31 2 days ago
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@Thetan1974 There were no planes. Again, anyone that continues to push this fucking 9/11 deception of "planes" crashing into buildings on 9/11 is either: A) an innocent deceived person (fair enough, don't post comments until you do research) B) an inept 9/11 researcher (again, don't post until you dig deeper) C) scumbag disinfo agent. Next, you need to realize that ALL the "truth movements" have been infiltrated by disinfo scumbags that are working hard to keep the truth buried.
anthonyc31 2 days ago
JOHN LEAR SOUNDS LIKES A FOOL. JUST COS HE'S A PILOT DOESNT MEAN HE'S NOT A CRACK POT, COZ HE IS, heres proof : y0utubE.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY&feature=related
mcRioRemedy 8 months ago
The media covered it up, the planes were not real, just big remote controlled kites or holokites. The media trunk line was split up and directed through the CIA and they photoshopped the pictures of planes in. Its obvious... cant you see it ... DUH!!!!
minijimi 9 months ago
@minijimi remote control? never heard of AUTO PILOT?
AND YOUR WRONG ANYWAY, OF COURSE THE PLANES WERE REAL
y0utube.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY&feature=related
mcRioRemedy 8 months ago
@mcRioRemedy AUTO PILOT?...what did the alledged "hijackers" program the new flight co-ordinates and then set it for auto pilot?
kansasinnovember 8 months ago
@kansasinnovember ive no idea, why what would you know about it?
mcRioRemedy 8 months ago
@mcRioRemedy just wondering why you mentioned "auto pilot",unless you belive that the alledged hijackers used it?
kansasinnovember 8 months ago
@mcRioRemedy the planes were not real.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31 yes, they were of course. . .there is tons of video footage of them
mcRioRemedy 3 weeks ago
@mcRioRemedy are you interested in learning the truth or do you want to continue believing the MASSIVE bullshit lie that was 9/11 which involved "planes" and "hijackers"? If you want the truth, put everything you thought you knew about 9/11 aside. Everything. Watch Dimitri Khalezov's testimony, not theory. If you'd like to focus on learning why the "planes" are fake, start here: /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@anthonyc31 start where mate? you gave me a link to NOTHING.
when you copy and paste that, it comes back as not found.
i think you might be talking that shit. otherwise you would have pasted a working link. . .
you pasted the playlist link instead of the actual video link
mcRioRemedy 3 weeks ago
@mcRioRemedy I wanted to share the playlist. It contains 6 short videos that, taken together, should help you realize that the 9/11 "plane" deception is very real. At the very least, it should inspire you to research this topic seriously. In case you're not technical, YouTube does not let full links be posted. So, whenever you see partial links, make sure you enter w w w {dot} youtube {dot} com in the address then copy and paste /playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569 after it.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@mcRioRemedy there were no planes at the WTC and no plane hit the Pentagon. Watch this playlist and WAKE UP. playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
anthonyc31 2 days ago
@anthonyc31 i dont have to. ive seen real video footage and believe me, the planes were REAL.
do you know what a plane is? its a big hunk of metal that carries people from A to B.
THEY FLY IN THE SKY, just like the things you seen crashing into the towers on many a you tube video.
mcRioRemedy 2 days ago
@mcRioRemedy ok stupid fuck .... show me a somewhat significant plane part at the WTC or Pentagon for that matter .. you had 6 BIG plane wings to choose from, 3 BIG sections of fuselage to show and lets not forget those 3 BIG tail wings to point out and LOTS and LOTS of plane seats and oh ya, bodies. Ohhh, but they sure did find those tiny paper passports of those "hijackers" real fast. You're so stupid that you're not worth wasting time on.
anthonyc31 2 days ago
@anthonyc31 im not worth wasting time on yet you wrote me the same message twice?
how can "i" show you a piece of the plane? talk sense.
i watched your 6 videos. and learned nothing new i didnt already know.
we all know the governments lying about a lot of stuff, no1 ever denied that.
but there are a hundred videos all shot from different angles.
THE PLANES WERE REAL. GET OVER IT, agent provocateur. . .
mcRioRemedy 1 day ago
@mcRioRemedy Do you really believe a 767 could slice through a steel structured tower "completely" intact?
Do you really believe (as you claim) there a hundred videos of the impact shot from different angles?
Do you believe the "jumpers" could land 60ft from the base of the towers,twice the distance of the current long jump world record with a damn good run-up?
Do you believe everything the media tell you,without hesitation?
Are you a shill or just plain stupid.
cartoonplanes 1 day ago
@mcRioRemedy busted ... there were 5 videos BOZO. As i said, you are a fucking 9/11 tool. Go fuck yourself.
anthonyc31 1 day ago
@minijimi yes, its obvious if people look. They just don't want to believe it.
anthonyc31 3 weeks ago
@jockdoubleday if as you claim the planes were military,who the hell would be willing to pilot these apparent "suicide flights"....get over it
cartoonplanes 9 months ago
the planes that hit the towers were MILITARY planes, not passenger jets. military planes' maneuverability is substantially greater than passenger jets' maneuverability.
jockdoubleday 9 months ago
@jockdoubleday no planes. playlist?list=PL5CB7F8339CD59569
anthonyc31 2 days ago
the no-planers believe that no planes hit the Twin Towers - even though many amateur videographers captured the planes hitting the Towers.
the no-planers claim that all of the amateur videographers got together and, in a few hours, created computer-generated imagery that matched from all angles.
and . . . the no-planers believe that amateur videographers created computer-generated images of MILITARY planes (not passenger jets) flying into the twin towers.
great thinking. :)
jockdoubleday 9 months ago
@jockdoubleday Anthony Lawson has written a paper thoroughly refuting the no-planers' claims. It's called, "The following is a review by Anthony Lawson of 'The 9/11 Airplane Video Composites.'"
Anthony's article is available on the Web as a downloadable .pdf file.
google: "The following is a review, by Anthony Lawson"
You can view it or free with Quick View or download the .pdf to your computer for free and then view it.
jockdoubleday 9 months ago
@RomneyPHONY Watch 911 Science and Conspiracy which aired on National Geographic channel last night. Excellent look into why truthers will not accept facts that disprove their theories when they are laid out right in front of them.
Also read Voodoo Histories by David Aaronovitch, mor one why truthers try so hard to hang onto their conspiracy stories even when they don't have a single thread of evidence to back them up,
LAGunBroker 9 months ago
I think all the flying has screwed this mans head up, hell he spends most of his time chasing UFO's so that tell how wack he is. So a jet airliner hiting a wall of glass going 500mph is supose to crumple up and fall to the ground? This nut claims there is no way the plane could be traveling 500mph? So why is it's max "cruise" speed 568mph? Just another conpiracy nut looking for attention. When will truthers learn nobody is buying their bullshit?
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker max cruise speed is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the alledged "hijackers" ability to control any large airline at low altitude (air density) and crash with pinpoint accuracy.
cartoonplanes 10 months ago 3
@cartoonplanes Hey the nut in the video is the one who brought cruise speed, I just corrected him. He said the plane was not able to travel 500mph. All the self proclaimed experts keep saying the planes could not make those maneuvers. There's a video of a pilot doing stunts in a piper aerostar, stunts the plane can not do, unless the pilot pushes the plane past what it was originally designed for, just as the terrorist did.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@cartoonplanes I fly a 1968 Cessna 310, what do you fly? I've never tried doing stunts in mine or pushing it to it's limits but I am confident that it will do a lot more than it was originally designed for. I've watched Marine pilots do some crazy shit in planes. Sure these terrorist didn't have that kind of training but they had one thing professionals didn't have (or actually do have) a value of life. These aholes didn't care because they were going to die anyway
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
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Rickster105 10 months ago
Middle Eastern 'oil resources' were one of the key motives for war of Britain with Germany in the early 1900's. The video comedy has an underlying ring of truth to it. Google search: The History of Oil - by Robert Newman
It puts things together for the common layman.
European banking privateers took control of the American monetary system.
youtube search: The Criminal Rothschilds
Those two clips ought to provide the motive for taking down the Arab axis-of-oil-bearing nations
Chidanandaji 11 months ago
757s / 767's cannot fly 350 at low altitude for any legth of time let alone make fighter
moves to hit the exact spot ? Nope it was a cartoon airplane it has been proven .
Fake videos most all of them
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago 4
if you genuinely believe the authorites & the media wouldn't lie then wake up & watch the following:
"Bizarre Live Interview with 911 Police Chief and Dir. of WTC"..
"CNN Fake News Cast"
and remember the people responsible for the "demolition" on 9/11 find it so easy to keep quiet because they know there were "no victims".
NO VICTIMS = NO GUILTY CONSCIENCE
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
Jack ass- Its not that they wouldn't do it, of course they would do it...It is that couldnt do it and get away with it. The thousands of patriots in positions in the know, would not allow that to happen and would blow a huge whistle if it did happen. The chinese would say something, the russians would say something and the rest of the world would not just stand bye and allow these wars in the name of a fake attack....Fake victim list? Real nice.Show me one person still alive..
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
I cant believe people this stupid are allowed to talk in public...
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
people should be clear on the financial payouts to alledged "victms",the victim compensation fund (VCF) was 7 billion dollars,and the less publicised business compensation fund (BCF) which was a staggering 38.4 billion dollars,and let's not forget about the alledged trillions of dollars that went "missing" from the pentagon budget..surely this is more than enough to finance the whole 9/11 fiasco and silence a few doubters..god i know many people who'd keep hush for just a few thousand.
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
It didn't go missing like a bank robbery you liar....It was unaccounted for in records.....meaning they didnt keep good records.....
Why do u have to lie make your theories work?
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 hey numb nuts,only you mentioned bank robbery,i merely said it went "missing".stop exaggerating about the "millions" of witnesses and remember as each day passes more and more people are waking up to the truth,so i suggest you go to your government employers and tell them your failing at your job,shill.
to anyone else interested try researching the the occupency figures of the wtc recently released under the freedom of information act.
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
Jack ass- It didn't go missing, it was that they couldn't account for it in records and he was high lighting the bad record keeping of the previous administration. More and more people are not wakening up that 9/11 was an inside job, people don't take you serious...Thinking the gov lied about certain aspect of 9/11 and thinking terrorism is fake are two different things.
The US has never been able to keep a secret, your theories dont make tactical sense...You are a liar
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 "the US has never been able to keep a secret"....that's only true if you & i know absolutley everything the gov have ever done,which is highly unlikely.
the pentagon "it didn't go missing,they COULDN'T account for it in records"...sounds like it's gone missing.
try explaining how the hollow aluminium "planes" managed to slice through the steel outer walls of the wtc in one piece without losing their "fragile" wing tips & tail-section,bear in mind newtons "law of motion"
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
It means they didn't do a good job of accounting and when they switched over from paper to computer, it wasn't easy to track...Not it went missing...
Aluminum planes went through steel the way hay goes through plywood in a tornado. Speed and force of impact.
Newtons law of motion? Are you seriously saying all of the worlds leading experts and schools that have researched the events of 9/11 have all forgotten or overlooked this little aspect of supposedly defying laws of motion?..
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
We only need to look at the much smaller and much less illegal actions that they couldn't get away with to know this massive silly theory requiring thousands of willing participants couldn't be kept secret and wouldn't be carried out in this manner....It makes ZERO tactical sense
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 the "planes" are fake CGI animations that defy even basic laws of physics,(unless of course you can prove sir isaac newtons' wrong & your right)..and it's been proven with a pre-9/11 non-fiction book that documents the "emptying" of the towers & the recently released occupency rates of the towers made availible under the FOIA that the story of "alledged" victims is false...in fact the only "truth" that you've been told is that the wtc is now gone.
cartoonplanes 11 months ago 3
@cartoonplanes
Good job changing the subject...and the plane parts found on site? The thousands of people who saw it happen in person? So you think they faked the last 32 years of al qaeda intel but got busted because of a FOIA request? How stupid are you? You are probably the most out of touch truther i have ever seen...You are sad and ignorant. Your theories are 100% lies and nobody will ever take you or this self titled truth movement serious...Thats why it is rapidly dwindling away...
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 maybe you should watch the BBC documentary where CIA officials openly admit that "al qaeda" is a complete and total fabrication having never existed at any time..or try watching the youtube video "BBC now admits al qaeda never existed"...how dumb & brainwashed are you,if as you believe the "planes" were real then please explain how they sliced through the wtc intact without losing its wing tips or tail-section....you cannot prove a lie
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
Ive seen that documentary and its garbage....Just because someone says something, doesnt make it true..Try doing some research, reading books written by people who have been there..Al Qaeda is real, Ive been there...Making something up this big for 30+ years and not getting caught is a foolish idea. Watch BBC shows about al qaedas leadership...since them showing a flick is all u need to verify somethings exists .
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 the BBC documentary is called "the power of nightmares"
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
ANYone who tries to deflect the issue ( 757s cannot fly 500 mph at 100 Ft )
and fake airplanes . Is a shill
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago
@SAYYOURROSARY
HUNDREDS of people saw it happen....NONE saw a missile. and THATS BULLSHIIT. Planes can fly that speed that low, they aren't designed too, but can.....Google "high speed fly by" and watch for yourself...
Anyone who thinks 9/11 is an inside job is a FOOL
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@SAYYOURROSARY
Sure they can....Check em out on video....google it..
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
the wtc was a huge asbestos filled "white elephant" whose legal demolition was far too costly,the towers were brought down by elements within the gov / military with the co-operation of the media / owner & the imeediate blame put on al qaeda.the CGI planes were only ever seen on tv & used to guarentee public support for the non-existant & never ending "war on terror"
your television is a "weapon of mass distraction"
cartoonplanes 11 months ago 2
@cartoonplanes
And the millions who saw it happen from line of sight buildings in NYC and NJ? Were they all involved in this massive cover up too? This many people can not keep a secret.....
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 if the govs.story is to be believed (LOL) extremely few would have seen the 1st hit as it was totally unexpected,and by the time of the second most people would have been pushed so far back all they would have seen was smoke,so stop "bullshitting" with your "millions" of alledged witnesses.the fact is many people saw the wtc come down,went home & saw "planes" on TV.the idea of any "planes" was implanted in the nations sub-conscious by the media.
cartoonplanes 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes jackass-
They did not clear out all the buildings in Manhattan and New Jersey with a line of sight of the WTC. We cant dump water on a terrorists head without everyone knowing, yet you think we can keep this secret? How stupid and out of touch are you?
You are the worst of the truthers.......Fools even by there definition.
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@cartoonplanes
Asbestos can be covered and sealed in....You dont have to tare down a building to get rid of it...
You are the biggest lying fool ever.....or do u do this as a joke?
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
try reading "divided we stand" written by eric darton in 1999 it describes how the wtc was progressively emptied (relocated) of tenants from '93 onwards & only virtual space later leased,now what makes more sense a non-fiction book written pre-9/11 or the governments fairytail version of events..
..and check the wtc occupency figures made availible recently under the freedom of information act.
no planes..no victims..no guilty conscience for the government.
cartoonplanes 11 months ago 13
@cartoonplanes no planes..no victims..no guilty conscience for the government
ONLY THE 3000 PEOPLE THAT DIED IN THE TOWERS.
koolbossjock 10 months ago
@koolbossjock like i said,check the "real" occupency figures of the wtc recently released under the freedom of information act,and watch the following:
911 memorial scam clones...
911 honor the vicsims...
911 actors...
the ONLY fact about 9/11 told to you by the government is that the towers are gone,the rest is bullshit...wake up,your television is a "weapon of mass distraction"
cartoonplanes 10 months ago 9
any "real" planes would explode "ON" contact with the wtc and debris blown in all directions,aluminium wing tips & tail-section can't slice through steel like a hot knife through butter,and "remote" planes couldn't be used as the danger of them missing their targets & crashing into the streets of NY for the waiting world to see was to big a risk,couldn't blame al qaeda for having access to these.sorry shills but the only "planes" guarenteed to hit their target & leave no wreckage are CGI planes
cartoonplanes 11 months ago 27
See how they try to disrupt a important video of a professional who knows airplanes .
What part of "aiplanes can't do that " don't you understand ? 757-767 take off at 175 mph you shill . Let me ask you do they spray chemtrails where you live ?
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago
meth is bad. I simply said my family watched the second impact. Get a life.
MrSafetymeeting 11 months ago
@MrSafetymeeting You and your family are liars . The plane cannot fly at that speed at that altitude . It's impossible you saw it . You are a shill
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago
@SAYYOURROSARY At what speed? What does speed have to do with it? LOL You are stupid. Lot's of people saw it. You are a fool and an embarrassment to the truth movement. Please kill yourself.
MrSafetymeeting 11 months ago
@MrSafetymeeting Oh yea I believe you ! The engines are turbo fans and would act like anchors you fool .
The flight never took off you fool . You are a shill or a liar . The speeed matters because the wings would break off at that air density . YOU saw nothing but maybe the explosion if that .
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago
@SAYYOURROSARY What speed? What are you talking about? Did you think I said something about speed? I didn't. You are a MORON. Please go to bed so the grown ups can talk seriously. How does a plane take off and land if it can't fly at that altitude? Work on that for a while. LOL
MrSafetymeeting 11 months ago
@SAYYOURROSARY
Do you realize how stupid you sound? Google "high speed fly by" and watch the hundreds of videos of planes flying fast and low......
Stop breathing............................................NOW
amphibwarrior0321 11 months ago
@amphibwarrior0321 Nobody but actors saw anything . Nobody saw plane hit but on TV . where it was inserted via CGI CartoonPlanes is 100% correct on this
SAYYOURROSARY 11 months ago 3
@anonymoustruther2 You're right. Your opinion is worthless as you are clearly an asshole here trying to make 9/11 truther look insane. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE. All I said was my family watched the second plane hit. I don't give a shit what you think
MrSafetymeeting 11 months ago
@anonymoustruther2 They are made of aluminum and TONS OF STEEL, amonst other materials.
MrSafetymeeting 11 months ago
@Steelerguy6178 you think muslim people aren't capable of flying planes or planning to fuck with the states? wake up, idiot. people are all capable evil, not just white americans. to not believe that is to be a racist fuck.
pubeafro 11 months ago
haha um... the bureau of transportation statistics? where in the fuck is he getting this information? if we can't find it, he can't. simply put. this man is a fucking moron. i hate people who say shit like "anyone with any experience at all could not believe this." it's such a pathetic tactic, but it works on morons who love to buy into conspiracy theories. god what a tool.
pubeafro 11 months ago
WOW!!!!! This guy is just a dummy!!!!! I can't even believe that i am listening to this shit
jersey2983 11 months ago
Search for Missing Links documentary.
TruthResearchChannel 11 months ago
@LegPains It might be easier to relate to your nonsense if you weren't such an irrational douchebag. Unfortunately for you, nobody ever taught you how to talk to people. You're going to have a hard time finding people stupid enough to try to discuss things with you. You are a joke . Maybe just a troll. Either way, I'm bored.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
@LegPains Why in the world would anyone talk to you? You're an fucking asshole.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
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@MrSafetymeeting
if you believe Planes were used thats fine and you are entitled to this Opinion, but to go as far as Lying about your Grandparents witnessing the planes is lower than the lowest, people died on 911, show some respect and at least be Honest , regardless if you agree with someone or not
you should be ashamed of yourself
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains It's true. Why would I be ashamed? lol. I don't give out my families info to random assholes on the web. You theory that this proves something is absolutely delusional.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
@MrSafetymeeting
Hey Grandpa, stop hiding behind your furniture, America wants to hear your story ! SPEAK UP you old wrikled up piece of shit, start speaking, we want answers of what you saw where you were and you better be prepared to answer ALOT of ?s.
if you're not ready to publicly speak than stop Lying about what you saw, stop hiding behind your Pussy of a grandson here, SPEAK GRANDPA you fool
LegPains 1 year ago
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MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
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@MrSafetymeeting
Sure, but Only if you agree to bring those 2 old worn out Pieces of shit, your grandparents i wanna ask Grandma and Grandpa ALOT of Questions , if they are gonna say they saw planes i have ALOT of ?s for them and they better be ready to answer them specifically and directly.
Im gonna grill them with questions, what do you say ? im ready, do we have a deal pal ?
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains I'm sure they would love to participate in your lunacy if they didn't have jobs. They would probably find you quite amusing. They're artists and love wierdos.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
@LegPains You're hilarious. My grandparents aren't going to talk to you. LOL
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
@MrSafetymeeting
So your grandparents are just like you, Lying sacks of shit and cowards ? Of course i Knew ud back right down when asked which is why i asked because its so easy to demonstrate how you are a Liar.
Your grandparents didnt see anything and you are hiding behind your computer monitor. Truth be told Grandma and grandpa didnt see anything and are prob dead LOL
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains LOL Yer funny and the likely shill here. The no planes stuff is ridiculous. All you would have to do is look at my channel to see what I believe about 9/11. I don't believe the official story at all but your angle is fucking ABSURD. You make the other 9/11 truth people look completely insane. My grandparents aren't even retired, let alone senile or dead. Why would somebody talk to a stranger and have a serious converstion about something they think is nonsense? FUCK OFF
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
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@MrSafetymeeting
Fact is your Grandparents are old senile wrinkled pieces of dog shit , Worthless human debri and pieces of garbage waiting to croak, and they didnt witness anything. You are a blatant Liar and you were shown to be so easily
You are a Coward
LegPains 1 year ago
@LegPains good one. You have brilliant debating skills.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
@MrSafetymeeting
you need to watch vid -
Theory of Ghostplane
LegPains 1 year ago
@MrSafetymeeting ot if the plane only had a dozen people they wanted taken out ,
PatriotRadioMilitia 1 year ago
This Just Tells You America Has You ALL Brain Washed You Believe ANYTHING!
xaishaxmariex1 1 year ago
Lear is very entertaining but it's all bullshit.If ufo's are real,which could be possible.we dont have agreements with aliens ec.Thats all bullshit.
fadethetrade 1 year ago