We don't have to say God did it when we don't know. We don't have to justify and defend something that is clearly so terrible like the commanded genocide and rape in the Bible. We don't have to fight science every step of the way even though we depend on the invention and advancement of it in our lives.
Deprogramming religion is like dealing with a drug addict. 1. Every thing is just fine. 2. Denial, denial, denial. 3. Anger and lashing out. 4. Acceptance 5. Detox. 6. Counseling 7. Education 8. Enlightenment 9. Freedom
Atheists explore many possibilities and can accept being wrong to grow. We can be objective without fear. We can question the world around us. We don't have to stick to one ideal no matter what the overwhelming evidence.
creating humans to share his love is a crock. it makes more sense if this god, after being around for countless ages, would want to watch a whole range of emotions, which would include love and hate, just to entertain him. being omnipotent (do anything) and omniscient (know everything), there is just no way that this god would miss us puny humans messing up his perfect world. even various theologians came to the conclusion that this god must have known and made the world to be as it is now.
After 600,000 years wed all be bored out of our minds eating the same fruit and walking around day after day, without an intimite love relationship with the Creator.
@j919or The deity is supposedly all-powerful and would therefore have the ability to keep the people he designed from being bored and would certainly have the ability to have a relationship with his creation without inflicting infinite torture upon it. So your point is moot.
@Ledwix ""keep the people he designed from being bored ""
You know nothing. Without love all gets stale fast. Without love for God eternity will be hellish. Just keep ur complaining attitude and tell me when that gets stale. Im guessing about 15 years ago.
@j919or I am not complaining about anything. I did not say my life was boring. I was referring to how you said that we would be bored if we couldn't have an intimate love relationship with God. And my point is that an all-powerful being has the power to reach down and have an intimate relationship with his creation without having to also inflict unimaginable pain for an uncountably large number of years to the vast majority of those participants because of the crime of eating a fruit.
@Ledwix "" intimate relationship with his creation without having to also inflict unimaginable pain ""
We need to know the horror of independence from God. then we need to know to what lengths God would go to keep us from that horror. Youd rather drink or music away that sense of horror.
@j919or Your kidding right? 600.000 years of copulating humans cramped in one north african/mid eastern acre/eden together?We'd have started enough wars brought on by inbred sibling rivaly by then to never be bored. We'd even invent news papyrus just to not be bored.Ok.That's a lie. Most would be perfectly content not to have to deal with death or a full time job to juggle between raising all those kids, but some of us would phuck it up for the rest of us. We're gone so far, we're west of eden.
God is in the process of teaching us to trust His will and receive and respond to His love. True bliss is not found in the creation but in the creator.
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
@QuestionForAtheists I tell them the truth. Simple as that. I had children because i know that even if life comes with hardships, it's worth living, even without the "hope" of going to an afterlife (or the fear of hell, i should say). I'll tell them that death is an eternal sleep, and before that happens, he must help his kins and continue the legacy of his family. I know this question is because you don't really understand a world that's not based on your views, but open your mind a little.
@QuestionForAtheists I can't answer for atheists, but as an agnostic, I can say to my son that he was brought into this world because, when his father and I spoke extensively before even coming close to having sex, that a child conceved would be a child gifted. 18 months later our son was born. Why should he die? He asked once, what is the point of being alive if you're just going to die? I told him death is forever, but life is so if full of wonder and love and he can hold onto those forever.
@jmikejapan I don't know...I'm agnostic and, if there is a god, I'm sure it's one I've never heard of, but if I had the chance to live is bliss without the pain of childbirth or the daily toiling, I think I'd be eating snack ala snake instead of apple or banana or fig or whatever the scholars are saying these days.
@judasishmael I see your point, but even having endured so much pain, I still wouldn't want to live in ignorance of pain. Without troubles in life, you won't truly be able to enjoy the joys, because you have never experienced the opposite and won't be able to compare the two. But that is just me.
@jmikejapan Blissful ignorance and true appreciation of joy due to knowledge of pain are two sides of the same coin as both don't truly suck. Personally, had I my druthers, I'd opt for ignorant bliss in eden (no daily grind, just frollicking with unicorns? I'd choose that anyday), but, as one who has endured extreme pain due to childhood trauma, I feel even more blessed than some others might with the joys, big and small, that I have today, so I also see your point. Everybody wins.
@jmikejapan "Without troubles in life, you won't truly be able to enjoy the joys"
People believe bullshit like that because they think they cannot cope with the pain & sorrows of life otherwise. It is a desperate helpless masochist philosophy & like any other belief, believing & promoting it does not make it true.
@Strangerinasland How is that bullshit? I'm not saying take shit from life and don't try and make it better. What I'm saying is in my personal experience, I have gone through pain. And when that is the case the joy filled times are the more sweeter. It's a opposite thing. You really can't have one without the other. I'm not a masochist or desperate. That's just the way it is.
@jmikejapan 1 thing I do not know is why anyone would guess I know everything after this 1 short exchange. I do know that most of those sayings people repeat without thinking are not wise or sensible. How do you think you know enough about me to think I need to get a life?
Why does this matter to you so much? It's funny that only you are capable of thinking, isn't it? You're not profound.
The fact that I made a comment and you are spending so much time on youtube trying to preach your shit is how I know you need to get a life. Or at least lighten up. I made a joke about the video and you're going off on a self-righteous crusade. It's annoying, just stop. I'm done. This is just too stupid. lol
@jmikejapan I made no indication that only I am capable of thinking. I am spendingf no more time on it than you. Maybe you need to have the last word.
and on the great lake which fire, and what ere that mean, and the beast was thus seprated, in the lords altar, sacrificed to the beast, and the beast to the lord. when god brought hell to its knees they said suffering oh lord take thi altar. and the seperation of man from beast in paradise, no the beast seperated woman, who is greater will but not her own, but here yes her own, and man his will free.
This is the YEC's way out. God reset mankind, but not the earth. This way, following man's lineage back to Adam suggests he was created 6,000 years ago, but the Earth is still very old.
Serpent is attachment to this world, but it is also the intellect. Man leaves his innocence by coming to our world and learning the truth of God so that He may be known and worshipped.
Without the fruit of knowledge we would be apes. But as the Chronicle Project translation said, "the planet Earth had existed for a long time, without attention and amid being to note. " It was then that humanity was created in Eden, and then with its serpent left.
Genesis makes no sense, first off, you need at least 50 individuals of a certain type of species to have enough genetic diversity to create a big enough population to successfully populate an area without inbreeding. So the whole two people thing doesn't cut it. And second, god has destroyed cities for sinning and killed millions of people for sinning, why didn't he kill adam and eve for sinning?
@xtremejohnny69 and if they never ate from the tree there would be no death but then what the fuck would happen when there too many people and animals to fit on the planet? christians are fucking stupid, no two ways about it
@wearestarstuffsagan It seems like the bible takes a pro incest stance quite a bit actually. My theory behind this is because the original hebrew writers were inbred themselves. It was common practice in those days.
son i love you, but you've got to kiss my ass for the rest of your life or i'll roast you alive without asking an explanation or giving you a second chance. also, if you don't kill other people with different fathers and faiths, i'll still roast you alive. i love you.
The author of Genesis had never heard of Satan, so the passage was not originally tended to mean that the snake was his avatar or was being possessed by him.
If the snake was Satan's avatar or was being possessed by Satan, why would God punish the snake's descendants because their ancestor was an innocent victim of demonic possession?
@tifforo1 So by your rationale, wouldn't any person who "sinned" or were persuaded by "evil" just be "an innocent victim of demonic possession"? The truth is that the bible is nothing more than a story, a fairytale passed down thousands of years and for some reason people are too afraid of death to let it be just that, a story.
Well, I guess maybe that would be a fair comparison if the snake had known that Satan was bad and had CONSENTED to being possessed. I don't really see how being "persuaded by evil" and being "possessed by a demon" are the same thing. I wouldn't consider them the same even if an animal's brain is a biochemical system that responds to stimuli in a way that is governed by chemistry. It's like you forwarding a chain letter vs. your PC being hacked into sending them.
@tifforo1 Because he's really temperamental. Remember it's the same God who punished his children for eating from a tree when he told them not to, even though they didn't know the difference between right and wrong.
@angrynutrients lets not forget he struck down a man for masturbating and letting his cum touch the ground. wich is one of the countless examples of pure stupidity of the bible.
@tifforo1 for the same reason every human is punished for the original sin...? All of David's decandents for the raping of Bat Sheva (If that's not her name in english, correct me, that's her hebrew name)? Because he is "slightly" insane?
@tifforo1 Ezek 28:11-19 talks of a cherub (the kind of angel lucifer was) who was in eden. Was created in perfection and with great beauty until "iniquity was found" in him. He was cast form the mountain of god and told he would be destroyed from the midst of the stones of fire. Of course, a more Jewish interpretation would say that lucifer, a perfect creation, cannot be evil. Instead he would be an agent of god sent to tempt mankind and punish them for disobedience etc etc. It's all bollocks.
Ezekiel 28 says that it's a lamentation over the king of Tyre, suggesting that HE is the one it is about. It says that the "stones of fire" were on the "mountain of God." It also says "you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more forever," suggesting it was addressed to someone who had recently died (and that the dead cease to exist). In any case, Ezekiel was written after Genesis, so it's irrelevant to the point about the Genesis author not having heard of Satan.
6The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, "The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, 7 keeping steadfast love for thousands,[a] forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation."
We could say that the story was simply an attempt to explain suffering (much like Pandora's box). Or, we could pull out the evangelical double-speak and say something like,
"By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race. Man transgressed and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and environment inclined toward sin. As soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation."
@tifforo1 Haha. I have heard it explained both ways but, what do you think is more likely? Do you think the Genesis creation story was written as metaphor? Or, was it created by ignorant men explaining the origins of the entire Universe while simultaneously attaching a shame filled beginning of mankind in order to gain political power?
@tifforo1 Why would God punish the descendants of man, when Adam and Eve were innocent victims of his temptation crap game? Would it be hard for an omnipotent god to, oh I don't know, destroy evil in the flick of his wrist? No, he's just a jackass.
I love how so many skeptics post angry responses to my comment without realizing that I'm a skeptic. My efforts to point out that a particular interpretation contains a logical/moral problem that some other interpretations don't was not intended as a claim that the other interpretations don't have logical/moral problems of their own. I'm just saying that the story should be appreciated (or criticized) for what it originally was, without confusing it by adding newer ideas like Satan.
Given that YHWH commands against certain types of inhumane slaughter of animals in other parts of the Torah, and goes on a rant in Job about how he listens to the needs of animals, I would assume that such being would consider the suffering of animals.
@tifforo1 "" I would assume that such being would consider the suffering of animals.""
And I would assume that your suffering will be infinite and eternal. And that God goes to great ends to warn u of the wrath to come only to find u complaining about the forms of the warnings. Animals are temporary and humans are eternal. There is no comparison. I pity you . It is unbelievable the depth of evil and stupidity that dwells in u.
@zzyzx0788 I had an ad for a site for posting prayer requests. Didn't realise that the ads changed because this is the first time that I have particularly noticed them.
'tis funny because the knowledge of eating from the Tree of Knowledge will certainly not pass on to every next generation so that eventually, someone would be curious enough to try it...even after 1332455 years from ''creation'' when the garden of eden would be overpopulater or smth. so the tree was put there on purpose and the evil snake needn't interfere at all...
If it was one of Adam and Eve's descendant's who ate it first, then there would be two populations: those descended from people who had eaten and those not descended from people who had eaten. I suppose with enough interbreeding, eventually everyone in the new generation would have at least one ancestor who had eaten.
ok i gotta ask. if this god fuck didnt need the tree of knowledge and there was only adam and eve then just what the shit was the point of the tree? just to sit there and look nice for the garden? it really seems as though the thing had no purpose other than temptation.
I respect your need to stop for awhile, but you must know much your videos have meant to me. Please never stop, you have an amazing gift and great ability to expose religion's flaws in the most powerful way! The world needs more of your films!
Ok ive seen the first one but not this second one. Would have like to have heard god say to the devil right after he said no "Why would i do that? Im an all loving and powerful god that loves his creation so much and it makes me sad when they suffer" Something along those lines. Anyway tis all good,
@RaytownSoClassof2010 ~ wow, such wit! and you are arguing that you are intelligently designed? thanks for the contrary evidence, so concisely offered.
EVERY seed bearing plant? Liiiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkke..................................................WEED, conservative Christians! If God didn't want us to smoke it, why'd he say it was cool in the first fucking chapter of Genesis? Eh!?
@MacabreManifesto Because he wanted us to eat plants and not smoke them? o_O Not that there's anything wrong with it; just saying, that's probably what he meant.
Heh, I always love to ask a person of faith, how long did adam and eve spend time in the eternal garden of no death. Range from 3 days to 7 billion years to give it effect. Then after 7 billion years when Adam finally ate from the tree he got punished. It was an accident waiting to happen.. Talking about setting someone up for failure.
Creationists: I have a question, if we all descend from just two people, Adam and Eve, where did all the different skin, hair, eye colors not to mention different blood types, come from?
@RadarKat73080 Apparently there seems to be some story about people migrating to different regions of the earth which caused skin color and feature change. Ex: Caucasians are that color due to the cold climates.
@hoovaloc2 But that's evolution, which, according to such intellectual luminaries as Kent Hovind, Nephillium Free and VenomFangX, such a thing hasn't and cannot happen! Are you gonna pit your puny science against such giants of the ID crowd?
@RadarKat73080 Puny science? Giant Intelligent Design crowd? Are you kidding me? How many respected scientific journals publish findings from intelligent design? How many are publishing findings for evolution? What has been widely accepted as fact in today's textbooks? What has been ruled unconstitutional to teach in school? Please. Science shows you diagrams and evidence for you to interpret while Kent Hovind just tells you that nothing supports evolution. That's the worst display of fallacy.
Fuck, I should know better. Here's me clicking on this link hoping to find "Follow You Follow Me" and all I see is this religious SHIT. I fucking hate the Bible, and don't think Mr. God, just for one moment, that just because you have rewritten it for a good reson, means I like it one bit better! not at all, I can tell you!
I just realized the catch about the whole tree of knowledge thing. Without the knowledge from the fruit, Adam and Eve are dumber than rocks and will probably believe anything that is said to them, even if it was said from something as ridiculous as a talking snake. If not eating the fruit affected their long term memory, they would probably forget the significance of Yahweh's warning not to eat the fruit. This was a great setup on Yahweh's part (not).
@Fragbug Wrong - the tree is call the true of knowledge of good and evil. Eating of its fruit made them aware of right and wrong, therefore accountable for their wrong-doings. Which implies that if we are aware of what evil is, then we will do it!
My interpretation of the Christian God. --------->
God: Here is a cookie, you may only have this cookie, I can't describe the contents of this cookie, or show you the cookie, but trust me..it's good. However, If you don't take my cookie I'm going to make you burn!!! I love you....<3
@Dacurath God reveals all to those who accept and eat of his cookie. How are you going to know how good the cookie tastes without eating it? It's the same with God. how are you going to know how good He is without receiving him?
But the cookie analogy breaks down very quickly, or should i say, crumbles?
@jbooks888 LMAO You made a funny, you answered your own question too. You have to eat the cookie to know what the cookie is about. I don't want to eat i cookie i know absolutely nothing about. Heck the cookie is being advertised but nobody can even prove it's actually there..even the people who ate it! I love the crumbles part of your response though. you made a good funny :)
@Dacurath Ummmm...thanks, I guess. Yes - you are right - that is frustrating for us Christians. But we are told that if we love one another (meaning other brthren in the faith) then the world will have some evidence of the truth of our faith. 'By your love for one another, people will know you are my disciples...'
@jbooks888 If you wake up everyday and treat each person fairly, then i have no problem with you. I don't care what religion you follow as long as it is your personal belief. The problem is not people who take the good things from the bible and reject the bad (minus hell). The problem is religious zealots who force children to swallow their religion without letting them choose, and the church forcing it's way into state and government.
@jbooks888 It's a problem when many states have policies against Atheists! If your an atheist in a Islamic country..you DIE! The problem doesn't stop with Christianity, It's every religion ever. To me, I would rather not follow any religion unless it is proven to be correct. How is that harmful? But hopefully you can see that my point is that i don't want the bad cookie, or the seemingly good cookie. I want the cookie that is best for not just me, but for everyone. So far non-belief wins.
@jbooks888 sorry for such a long response, but lately It just seems fruitless to argue. Everyone seems to talk past each other, and honestly that's what get's me going. So I want to apologize if it's harm to understand me, but I'm going to hope that you see the problems with religion one day. Thanks for you time.
@Dacurath Better yet, don't do this because it is bad, this tree will let you know what is good or bad....wait a minute, I smell a problem, how could they know it was bad if they didn't know the difference???
@jbooks888 How would you know what satan did or how he got here? You were not there and your only references come from a book that says the earth is flat. They couldn't even get that right..how would they know what happened before time? To me it sounds like satan (even though none of the characters are real) is as powerful, if not more powerful than god. If he wasn't god would just stop evil..unless of course god IS the evil one.
1:39 = "well fags are fags? gosh that was stubby."
Ledwix 1 month ago 3
@Ledwix LMAO
ledzeppize 2 weeks ago
This was uploaded at my Bday. AWSOME!!!
camobeast100 1 month ago
Can I subtitle this in Portuguese ?
barataaustralia 1 month ago
no take 3?:[
Damonymous 1 month ago
We don't have to say God did it when we don't know. We don't have to justify and defend something that is clearly so terrible like the commanded genocide and rape in the Bible. We don't have to fight science every step of the way even though we depend on the invention and advancement of it in our lives.
paramattic70 1 month ago
Deprogramming religion is like dealing with a drug addict. 1. Every thing is just fine. 2. Denial, denial, denial. 3. Anger and lashing out. 4. Acceptance 5. Detox. 6. Counseling 7. Education 8. Enlightenment 9. Freedom
Atheists explore many possibilities and can accept being wrong to grow. We can be objective without fear. We can question the world around us. We don't have to stick to one ideal no matter what the overwhelming evidence.
paramattic70 1 month ago 4
creating humans to share his love is a crock. it makes more sense if this god, after being around for countless ages, would want to watch a whole range of emotions, which would include love and hate, just to entertain him. being omnipotent (do anything) and omniscient (know everything), there is just no way that this god would miss us puny humans messing up his perfect world. even various theologians came to the conclusion that this god must have known and made the world to be as it is now.
TinyFire1 2 months ago
WHERE IS TAKE 3??
Jjunior130 2 months ago in playlist More videos from NonStampCollector
@Jjunior130 God claimed DMCA violation on it...
upisoft2 2 months ago
@Jjunior130 Well acording to the christian world view, we live in take 3.
Cuythulu 1 month ago in playlist Más videos de NonStampCollector
@Cuythulu third time's the charm
Jjunior130 1 month ago
A God who could get it right the first time
MrEmeraldfusion 2 months ago
I Was Hoping There Was A Part 3
OneTheOnlyOne 4 months ago
Where is Take 3?!
Ledwix 4 months ago
These videos are good at pointing out just how ridiculous xtian myths really are.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
After 600,000 years wed all be bored out of our minds eating the same fruit and walking around day after day, without an intimite love relationship with the Creator.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or The deity is supposedly all-powerful and would therefore have the ability to keep the people he designed from being bored and would certainly have the ability to have a relationship with his creation without inflicting infinite torture upon it. So your point is moot.
Ledwix 4 months ago
@Ledwix ""keep the people he designed from being bored ""
You know nothing. Without love all gets stale fast. Without love for God eternity will be hellish. Just keep ur complaining attitude and tell me when that gets stale. Im guessing about 15 years ago.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or I am not complaining about anything. I did not say my life was boring. I was referring to how you said that we would be bored if we couldn't have an intimate love relationship with God. And my point is that an all-powerful being has the power to reach down and have an intimate relationship with his creation without having to also inflict unimaginable pain for an uncountably large number of years to the vast majority of those participants because of the crime of eating a fruit.
Ledwix 4 months ago
@Ledwix "" intimate relationship with his creation without having to also inflict unimaginable pain ""
We need to know the horror of independence from God. then we need to know to what lengths God would go to keep us from that horror. Youd rather drink or music away that sense of horror.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or Your kidding right? 600.000 years of copulating humans cramped in one north african/mid eastern acre/eden together?We'd have started enough wars brought on by inbred sibling rivaly by then to never be bored. We'd even invent news papyrus just to not be bored.Ok.That's a lie. Most would be perfectly content not to have to deal with death or a full time job to juggle between raising all those kids, but some of us would phuck it up for the rest of us. We're gone so far, we're west of eden.
judasishmael 4 months ago
Even this vid sucks, where Adam and Eve are looking at? sky?
based on Hebrew calendar, now is 5771 not even 42,135.
Make something right to make something wrong.
MySGB 6 months ago
God is in the process of teaching us to trust His will and receive and respond to His love. True bliss is not found in the creation but in the creator.
j919or 6 months ago
I believe when Lucifer was still living with God, he must have picked up and learn to be prideful like God.
Just like how when we grow up, we will shadow and act like our parents, even their bad habits.
Children are often seen becoming or act like their parents when they grow up.
Overexposure to God's pride must have made Lucifer prideful and God is just going to put all the blame on him for being prideful
kohchuck789 6 months ago
@kohchuck789 ""learn to be prideful like God.""
Pride is playing God. So therefore God is the only one that has the right to be prideful and yet He is humble.
j919or 6 months ago
0:34 – And the parasites and bacteria? Oh, wait....
LeGrugkbdst 7 months ago
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 7 months ago
@QuestionForAtheists I tell them the truth. Simple as that. I had children because i know that even if life comes with hardships, it's worth living, even without the "hope" of going to an afterlife (or the fear of hell, i should say). I'll tell them that death is an eternal sleep, and before that happens, he must help his kins and continue the legacy of his family. I know this question is because you don't really understand a world that's not based on your views, but open your mind a little.
ThinkerResearcher 4 months ago
@QuestionForAtheists I can't answer for atheists, but as an agnostic, I can say to my son that he was brought into this world because, when his father and I spoke extensively before even coming close to having sex, that a child conceved would be a child gifted. 18 months later our son was born. Why should he die? He asked once, what is the point of being alive if you're just going to die? I told him death is forever, but life is so if full of wonder and love and he can hold onto those forever.
judasishmael 4 months ago
Take #3, is that the one he went for...?
aboyborninjune 7 months ago
so eating the fruit allow us to stop living in a fairy tale world and allows us to see the world for what it really is?
Oh no, let's stay away from that and blissfully live in ignorance!
jmikejapan 7 months ago
@jmikejapan I don't know...I'm agnostic and, if there is a god, I'm sure it's one I've never heard of, but if I had the chance to live is bliss without the pain of childbirth or the daily toiling, I think I'd be eating snack ala snake instead of apple or banana or fig or whatever the scholars are saying these days.
judasishmael 4 months ago
@judasishmael I see your point, but even having endured so much pain, I still wouldn't want to live in ignorance of pain. Without troubles in life, you won't truly be able to enjoy the joys, because you have never experienced the opposite and won't be able to compare the two. But that is just me.
jmikejapan 4 months ago
@jmikejapan Blissful ignorance and true appreciation of joy due to knowledge of pain are two sides of the same coin as both don't truly suck. Personally, had I my druthers, I'd opt for ignorant bliss in eden (no daily grind, just frollicking with unicorns? I'd choose that anyday), but, as one who has endured extreme pain due to childhood trauma, I feel even more blessed than some others might with the joys, big and small, that I have today, so I also see your point. Everybody wins.
judasishmael 4 months ago
@jmikejapan "Without troubles in life, you won't truly be able to enjoy the joys"
People believe bullshit like that because they think they cannot cope with the pain & sorrows of life otherwise. It is a desperate helpless masochist philosophy & like any other belief, believing & promoting it does not make it true.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago
@Strangerinasland How is that bullshit? I'm not saying take shit from life and don't try and make it better. What I'm saying is in my personal experience, I have gone through pain. And when that is the case the joy filled times are the more sweeter. It's a opposite thing. You really can't have one without the other. I'm not a masochist or desperate. That's just the way it is.
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan That's not the way it is. I can have 1 without the other.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago
@Strangerinasland So you are telling me that nothing bad ever happens in your life? That it is a blissful storybook, type of existence?
How so?
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan I'm telling you I don't require pain to enjoy pleasure & I do not need sorrow to appreciate joy. Anyone who does is mentally ill.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago
@Strangerinasland I'm not saying you need it. If at all, avoid it!
But it is going to happen at one point or another. I'm just saying it puts things into perspective.
That's all.
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan "Without troubles in life, you won't truly be able to enjoy the joys"
That is mentally ill.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago 2
@Strangerinasland eh.. omg. You just don't get it. That's fine. later. : /
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan YOU don't get it. And it's not fine. It is warped "thinking" & spreading it helps to warp others' thinking.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago 2
@Strangerinasland hahahahahaha. Whatever, buddy. I guess you know everything. Most people like you do. Have fun being a notorious youtube warrior.
And I am thinking and not following a bronze age book of fables, like some people.
Get a life.
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan 1 thing I do not know is why anyone would guess I know everything after this 1 short exchange. I do know that most of those sayings people repeat without thinking are not wise or sensible. How do you think you know enough about me to think I need to get a life?
Strangerinasland 3 months ago 5
@Strangerinasland Still, dude? Come on, it's over. lol
Why does this matter to you so much? It's funny that only you are capable of thinking, isn't it? You're not profound.
The fact that I made a comment and you are spending so much time on youtube trying to preach your shit is how I know you need to get a life. Or at least lighten up. I made a joke about the video and you're going off on a self-righteous crusade. It's annoying, just stop. I'm done. This is just too stupid. lol
jmikejapan 3 months ago
@jmikejapan I made no indication that only I am capable of thinking. I am spendingf no more time on it than you. Maybe you need to have the last word.
Strangerinasland 3 months ago 6
I second marekiller8...
shadesters 7 months ago
and on the great lake which fire, and what ere that mean, and the beast was thus seprated, in the lords altar, sacrificed to the beast, and the beast to the lord. when god brought hell to its knees they said suffering oh lord take thi altar. and the seperation of man from beast in paradise, no the beast seperated woman, who is greater will but not her own, but here yes her own, and man his will free.
duncangray2011 7 months ago
@duncangray2011 Please correct this until it makes sense to the average human. I'll give you a day or two.
marekiller8 7 months ago 8
The whole Bible is a load of shit, and doesn't make a bit of sense.
xKORNADDIKTx 8 months ago
@boredofargueing Oh wait, I did call them YECs. Haha. Alright.
hotbananapants 8 months ago
@boredofargueing That's true, but I'm referring to the idiots who think that the Creation myth doesn't contradict science.
hotbananapants 8 months ago
@hotbananapants
Which ones? The young-earth creationists, the old-earth creationists, or the people who think Genesis 1 is describing evolution?
tifforo1 7 months ago
This is the YEC's way out. God reset mankind, but not the earth. This way, following man's lineage back to Adam suggests he was created 6,000 years ago, but the Earth is still very old.
hotbananapants 8 months ago 3
Serpent is attachment to this world, but it is also the intellect. Man leaves his innocence by coming to our world and learning the truth of God so that He may be known and worshipped.
Without the fruit of knowledge we would be apes. But as the Chronicle Project translation said, "the planet Earth had existed for a long time, without attention and amid being to note. " It was then that humanity was created in Eden, and then with its serpent left.
thegreatcheesedemon 8 months ago
@thegreatcheesedemon "Without the fruit of knowledge we would be apes"
First of all, we ARE apes. Second, other animals also have morality.
KeistasZmogelis 8 months ago 13
@KeistasZmogelis
True enough.
thegreatcheesedemon 8 months ago
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youneekk 9 months ago
Genesis makes no sense, first off, you need at least 50 individuals of a certain type of species to have enough genetic diversity to create a big enough population to successfully populate an area without inbreeding. So the whole two people thing doesn't cut it. And second, god has destroyed cities for sinning and killed millions of people for sinning, why didn't he kill adam and eve for sinning?
xtremejohnny69 9 months ago
@xtremejohnny69 and if they never ate from the tree there would be no death but then what the fuck would happen when there too many people and animals to fit on the planet? christians are fucking stupid, no two ways about it
wearestarstuffsagan 9 months ago
@wearestarstuffsagan It seems like the bible takes a pro incest stance quite a bit actually. My theory behind this is because the original hebrew writers were inbred themselves. It was common practice in those days.
xtremejohnny69 9 months ago
i love how you quote the bible
bellyzbad 11 months ago
son i love you, but you've got to kiss my ass for the rest of your life or i'll roast you alive without asking an explanation or giving you a second chance. also, if you don't kill other people with different fathers and faiths, i'll still roast you alive. i love you.
08arijit 11 months ago
And mankind went extinct due to overpopulation and the lack of death.And God decreed "Well,that was boring"
gallileotheguineapig 11 months ago
The author of Genesis had never heard of Satan, so the passage was not originally tended to mean that the snake was his avatar or was being possessed by him.
If the snake was Satan's avatar or was being possessed by Satan, why would God punish the snake's descendants because their ancestor was an innocent victim of demonic possession?
tifforo1 11 months ago 40
@tifforo1 It's obviously not Satan's avatar!
It would be huge and blue...
CantonezSpere 11 months ago
@tifforo1 So by your rationale, wouldn't any person who "sinned" or were persuaded by "evil" just be "an innocent victim of demonic possession"? The truth is that the bible is nothing more than a story, a fairytale passed down thousands of years and for some reason people are too afraid of death to let it be just that, a story.
cershagree 11 months ago
@cershagree
Well, I guess maybe that would be a fair comparison if the snake had known that Satan was bad and had CONSENTED to being possessed. I don't really see how being "persuaded by evil" and being "possessed by a demon" are the same thing. I wouldn't consider them the same even if an animal's brain is a biochemical system that responds to stimuli in a way that is governed by chemistry. It's like you forwarding a chain letter vs. your PC being hacked into sending them.
tifforo1 11 months ago
@tifforo1 Well snakes don't have vocal chords to talk even if they were possessed or an "avatar" so the entire story is just bullshit.
cershagree 11 months ago
@tifforo1 Because he's a douche
dswash100 9 months ago
@tifforo1 Because he's really temperamental. Remember it's the same God who punished his children for eating from a tree when he told them not to, even though they didn't know the difference between right and wrong.
angrynutrients 7 months ago
@angrynutrients lets not forget he struck down a man for masturbating and letting his cum touch the ground. wich is one of the countless examples of pure stupidity of the bible.
501poundmiget 7 months ago
@tifforo1 for the same reason every human is punished for the original sin...? All of David's decandents for the raping of Bat Sheva (If that's not her name in english, correct me, that's her hebrew name)? Because he is "slightly" insane?
doryban129 7 months ago
@tifforo1 Ezek 28:11-19 talks of a cherub (the kind of angel lucifer was) who was in eden. Was created in perfection and with great beauty until "iniquity was found" in him. He was cast form the mountain of god and told he would be destroyed from the midst of the stones of fire. Of course, a more Jewish interpretation would say that lucifer, a perfect creation, cannot be evil. Instead he would be an agent of god sent to tempt mankind and punish them for disobedience etc etc. It's all bollocks.
jacksawild 7 months ago
@jacksawild
Ezekiel 28 says that it's a lamentation over the king of Tyre, suggesting that HE is the one it is about. It says that the "stones of fire" were on the "mountain of God." It also says "you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more forever," suggesting it was addressed to someone who had recently died (and that the dead cease to exist). In any case, Ezekiel was written after Genesis, so it's irrelevant to the point about the Genesis author not having heard of Satan.
tifforo1 7 months ago
@tifforo1 Why would he punish the rest of mankind (who are all innocent victims) for the mistakes of two prehistoric people?
Braxtonmccoy 7 months ago
@Braxtonmccoy
Exodus 34:6-7 (ESV)
6The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, "The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, 7 keeping steadfast love for thousands,[a] forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation."
Footnotes:
[a] Or to the thousandth generation
tifforo1 7 months ago
@Braxtonmccoy
We could say that the story was simply an attempt to explain suffering (much like Pandora's box). Or, we could pull out the evangelical double-speak and say something like,
"By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race. Man transgressed and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and environment inclined toward sin. As soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation."
tifforo1 7 months ago
@tifforo1 Haha. I have heard it explained both ways but, what do you think is more likely? Do you think the Genesis creation story was written as metaphor? Or, was it created by ignorant men explaining the origins of the entire Universe while simultaneously attaching a shame filled beginning of mankind in order to gain political power?
Braxtonmccoy 7 months ago
@tifforo1 Because, according to the christian bible, he was a mass murdering psychopath.
Velociraptorblade 7 months ago
@tifforo1 If you know Yahweh at all, he really enjoys punishing entire species for minor transgressions.
MethanolCH3OH 7 months ago
@MethanolCH3OH ""entire species for minor transgressions.""
The mere fact that you declare yourself the judge of God is a major infraction. Inner attitudes eventually produce matching actions.
j919or 6 months ago
@tifforo1 cause God is an asshole?
1n354a 6 months ago
@tifforo1 Why would God punish the descendants of man, when Adam and Eve were innocent victims of his temptation crap game? Would it be hard for an omnipotent god to, oh I don't know, destroy evil in the flick of his wrist? No, he's just a jackass.
Alddous 6 months ago 2
@Alddous
I love how so many skeptics post angry responses to my comment without realizing that I'm a skeptic. My efforts to point out that a particular interpretation contains a logical/moral problem that some other interpretations don't was not intended as a claim that the other interpretations don't have logical/moral problems of their own. I'm just saying that the story should be appreciated (or criticized) for what it originally was, without confusing it by adding newer ideas like Satan.
tifforo1 6 months ago
@tifforo1 since when has being innocent prevented one from being punished by YHWH?
Eventsbyresonance 5 months ago 2
@tifforo1 ""punish the snake's descendants ""
Do you think that God cares about the snake miscomfort? He is teaching a lesson to humans.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or
Given that YHWH commands against certain types of inhumane slaughter of animals in other parts of the Torah, and goes on a rant in Job about how he listens to the needs of animals, I would assume that such being would consider the suffering of animals.
Gen 3:14 The LORD God said to the serpent,
"Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field;
on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life.
tifforo1 4 months ago
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@tifforo1 "" I would assume that such being would consider the suffering of animals.""
And I would assume that your suffering will be infinite and eternal. And that God goes to great ends to warn u of the wrath to come only to find u complaining about the forms of the warnings. Animals are temporary and humans are eternal. There is no comparison. I pity you . It is unbelievable the depth of evil and stupidity that dwells in u.
j919or 4 months ago
I don't get why he couldn't make a fence or something. It's like leaving a child with a knife telling them not to touch.
CaNdY8477 11 months ago
hmmm...god told you not to eat it...well...just knock it down and throw that tree away?!!!!
juanlarios666 11 months ago
loving the ad at the top right.
bogartnumbertwo 11 months ago
@bogartnumbertwo Netflix? Yea, that ad rules.
zzyzx0788 11 months ago
@zzyzx0788 I had an ad for a site for posting prayer requests. Didn't realise that the ads changed because this is the first time that I have particularly noticed them.
bogartnumbertwo 11 months ago
@KoremanB He explained he has taken leave for a while.
1234yersiman 11 months ago
'tis funny because the knowledge of eating from the Tree of Knowledge will certainly not pass on to every next generation so that eventually, someone would be curious enough to try it...even after 1332455 years from ''creation'' when the garden of eden would be overpopulater or smth. so the tree was put there on purpose and the evil snake needn't interfere at all...
Ataraxschism 11 months ago
@Ataraxschism
If it was one of Adam and Eve's descendant's who ate it first, then there would be two populations: those descended from people who had eaten and those not descended from people who had eaten. I suppose with enough interbreeding, eventually everyone in the new generation would have at least one ancestor who had eaten.
tifforo1 7 months ago
that was awesome in its simplicity.
yogurtking 1 year ago
that's one sparse ass forest.
yogurtking 1 year ago
How am I supposed to get through a whole year without any NonStamp videos!
Forsooth, there is a hell; It has begun in earnest.
MrZardoz777 1 year ago
ok i gotta ask. if this god fuck didnt need the tree of knowledge and there was only adam and eve then just what the shit was the point of the tree? just to sit there and look nice for the garden? it really seems as though the thing had no purpose other than temptation.
itsuyo211 1 year ago
I respect your need to stop for awhile, but you must know much your videos have meant to me. Please never stop, you have an amazing gift and great ability to expose religion's flaws in the most powerful way! The world needs more of your films!
stuckinspacetime 1 year ago
interesting
GladiatorMusic2010 1 year ago
wow
arahul1979 1 year ago
Ok ive seen the first one but not this second one. Would have like to have heard god say to the devil right after he said no "Why would i do that? Im an all loving and powerful god that loves his creation so much and it makes me sad when they suffer" Something along those lines. Anyway tis all good,
NicosMind 1 year ago
post more fucking videos, though not the best, you are still a good and my first purely atheist based youtube chanel.
Jaisears1 1 year ago
@MacabreManifesto they're saving it for themselves!!
MexiSquirrel 1 year ago
@MacbreManifesto they're saving for themselves!!
MexiSquirrel 1 year ago
Imbecile
RaytownSoClassof2010 1 year ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 ~ wow, such wit! and you are arguing that you are intelligently designed? thanks for the contrary evidence, so concisely offered.
yogurtking 1 year ago
EVERY seed bearing plant? Liiiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkke..................................................WEED, conservative Christians! If God didn't want us to smoke it, why'd he say it was cool in the first fucking chapter of Genesis? Eh!?
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago 103
@MacabreManifesto I often wonder how many times they ate poison sumac before they figured out they really couldn't eat *every* seed bearing plant.
BiggestOfDaddies 11 months ago
@BiggestOfDaddies lolz
MacabreManifesto 11 months ago
@MacabreManifesto lol
anjipeace 7 months ago
@MacabreManifesto stop taking stuff out of context.
gigaboy47 7 months ago
@MacabreManifesto yours for FOOD.. to eat. not smoke.. hehe, i'm with ya though.
TheRumpletiltskin 7 months ago
@TheRumpletiltskin Brownies...
daiitokumyouou899 7 months ago
@MacabreManifesto Because he wanted us to eat plants and not smoke them? o_O Not that there's anything wrong with it; just saying, that's probably what he meant.
TheBlueorigami 6 months ago
@TheBlueorigami make some browniez then i guess haha.
DaKrazyJokesta 6 months ago
@DaKrazyJokesta ROFL. xD
TheBlueorigami 6 months ago
Heh, I always love to ask a person of faith, how long did adam and eve spend time in the eternal garden of no death. Range from 3 days to 7 billion years to give it effect. Then after 7 billion years when Adam finally ate from the tree he got punished. It was an accident waiting to happen.. Talking about setting someone up for failure.
Kan2209 1 year ago
NSE why u take down yo Christmas=natzi vid
GamerPro132 1 year ago
I knew it! God is an Aussie!
Commonwealth96 1 year ago
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dutchbb1979 1 year ago
Creationists: I have a question, if we all descend from just two people, Adam and Eve, where did all the different skin, hair, eye colors not to mention different blood types, come from?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 Apparently there seems to be some story about people migrating to different regions of the earth which caused skin color and feature change. Ex: Caucasians are that color due to the cold climates.
hoovaloc2 1 year ago
@hoovaloc2 Tower of Babel
DanDoesThat 1 year ago
@hoovaloc2 yeah, my girlfriend was trying to say that...buuut......
ZomBiezley 1 year ago
@hoovaloc2 But that's evolution, which, according to such intellectual luminaries as Kent Hovind, Nephillium Free and VenomFangX, such a thing hasn't and cannot happen! Are you gonna pit your puny science against such giants of the ID crowd?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 Puny science? Giant Intelligent Design crowd? Are you kidding me? How many respected scientific journals publish findings from intelligent design? How many are publishing findings for evolution? What has been widely accepted as fact in today's textbooks? What has been ruled unconstitutional to teach in school? Please. Science shows you diagrams and evidence for you to interpret while Kent Hovind just tells you that nothing supports evolution. That's the worst display of fallacy.
NoNameLikeThisOne 1 year ago 2
@RadarKat73080 Oh wait. Were you being sarcastic? -_-
NoNameLikeThisOne 1 year ago
@NoNameLikeThisOne Probably. I was really high that day.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
jajjajajaj, funny shit bro. o my yaweeh
jrev37 1 year ago
Fuck, I should know better. Here's me clicking on this link hoping to find "Follow You Follow Me" and all I see is this religious SHIT. I fucking hate the Bible, and don't think Mr. God, just for one moment, that just because you have rewritten it for a good reson, means I like it one bit better! not at all, I can tell you!
NoFaithNoPain 1 year ago
@NoFaithNoPain Great song.
jbooks888 1 year ago
I just realized the catch about the whole tree of knowledge thing. Without the knowledge from the fruit, Adam and Eve are dumber than rocks and will probably believe anything that is said to them, even if it was said from something as ridiculous as a talking snake. If not eating the fruit affected their long term memory, they would probably forget the significance of Yahweh's warning not to eat the fruit. This was a great setup on Yahweh's part (not).
Fragbug 1 year ago
@Fragbug Wrong - the tree is call the true of knowledge of good and evil. Eating of its fruit made them aware of right and wrong, therefore accountable for their wrong-doings. Which implies that if we are aware of what evil is, then we will do it!
jbooks888 1 year ago
Adam & Eve look like the Lego people !
atheistrage 1 year ago
So....much....INCEST..
LikKitgo0d 1 year ago 14
My interpretation of the Christian God. --------->
God: Here is a cookie, you may only have this cookie, I can't describe the contents of this cookie, or show you the cookie, but trust me..it's good. However, If you don't take my cookie I'm going to make you burn!!! I love you....<3
Someone tell me how the bible is different.
Dacurath 1 year ago 100
@Dacurath HAHAAAA...I love cookies.
LikKitgo0d 1 year ago
@Dacurath God reveals all to those who accept and eat of his cookie. How are you going to know how good the cookie tastes without eating it? It's the same with God. how are you going to know how good He is without receiving him?
But the cookie analogy breaks down very quickly, or should i say, crumbles?
jbooks888 1 year ago
@jbooks888 LMAO You made a funny, you answered your own question too. You have to eat the cookie to know what the cookie is about. I don't want to eat i cookie i know absolutely nothing about. Heck the cookie is being advertised but nobody can even prove it's actually there..even the people who ate it! I love the crumbles part of your response though. you made a good funny :)
Dacurath 1 year ago
@Dacurath Ummmm...thanks, I guess. Yes - you are right - that is frustrating for us Christians. But we are told that if we love one another (meaning other brthren in the faith) then the world will have some evidence of the truth of our faith. 'By your love for one another, people will know you are my disciples...'
jbooks888 1 year ago
@jbooks888 If you wake up everyday and treat each person fairly, then i have no problem with you. I don't care what religion you follow as long as it is your personal belief. The problem is not people who take the good things from the bible and reject the bad (minus hell). The problem is religious zealots who force children to swallow their religion without letting them choose, and the church forcing it's way into state and government.
Dacurath 1 year ago
@jbooks888 It's a problem when many states have policies against Atheists! If your an atheist in a Islamic country..you DIE! The problem doesn't stop with Christianity, It's every religion ever. To me, I would rather not follow any religion unless it is proven to be correct. How is that harmful? But hopefully you can see that my point is that i don't want the bad cookie, or the seemingly good cookie. I want the cookie that is best for not just me, but for everyone. So far non-belief wins.
Dacurath 1 year ago
@jbooks888 sorry for such a long response, but lately It just seems fruitless to argue. Everyone seems to talk past each other, and honestly that's what get's me going. So I want to apologize if it's harm to understand me, but I'm going to hope that you see the problems with religion one day. Thanks for you time.
Dacurath 1 year ago
@Dacurath Becuz baby Jesus said so, I dont need to think. I will turn my brain off like a good sheep.
chefshitpiece 1 year ago
@chefshitpiece like a fanboy. i mean elvis has religion made to worship him. so i think this is how religions start.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@Dacurath it doesn't involve delicious cookies :(
silentfighter2 1 year ago
@Dacurath Better yet, don't do this because it is bad, this tree will let you know what is good or bad....wait a minute, I smell a problem, how could they know it was bad if they didn't know the difference???
Cougar139tweak 1 year ago
@Dacurath We only have someone else's word for it that he is offering us a cookie.
jamesrands 11 months ago
Hey, you can only go back 4,000 years! there was no earth before then, silly. LOL
TheAlpineal 1 year ago
@TheAlpineal Get it right - it's 6,000
jbooks888 1 year ago
I have always gotten a kick out of the story saying that the "sin" is acquiring knowledge.
Miata822 1 year ago 3
"OF COURSE I'M RIGHT". If you find yourself starting conversations this way, chances are you're probably not right as often as you think.
JewTube001 1 year ago 23
Nice one!
Greatbloke 1 year ago
superb video
waheex 1 year ago
What the heck? Why is this censored in Europe (I checked Netherlands and Germany)?
0x8x0 1 year ago
@0x8x0 It's probably banned because it is irreverent and WRONG!
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RockwellPorter 1 year ago
@jbooks888 How would you know what satan did or how he got here? You were not there and your only references come from a book that says the earth is flat. They couldn't even get that right..how would they know what happened before time? To me it sounds like satan (even though none of the characters are real) is as powerful, if not more powerful than god. If he wasn't god would just stop evil..unless of course god IS the evil one.
xDAoCoinSx 1 year ago 2
Ok, so God deliberately made sure that there would be the Fall and eternal suffering? Ok, got it.
Gnug215 1 year ago
@Gnug215 He gave every individual a choice to have either eternal bliss or eternal suffering. A very easy choice to make. Yet you still complain?
jbooks888 1 year ago