@LichGeneral I've shot them out to 150 yards, and I realize it could have gone farther. I shot an old piece of junk left at the range with Winchester Super X 2 3/4 inch 00buck and rifled slug combos. After doing so, I realize I could have pushed it to 175 yards and maybe with a slug out to 200 yards, but that would have been quite a stretch.
I have one just like yours vincent. Let me hear you say it one time to you know who.........COME AND GET THEM!!!!! take care my saiga brother!!! From our cold dead fingers huh?!!! 5 dudes with 20 round drums could put up a wall you can't get through. I don't care what kind of gadgets you have. NO SUBSTITUTE FOR MASS QUANTITIES OF MOLTEN LEAD. ouch!
If you are referring to that "click" at the end when I'm showing the gun closeup; it was NOT a dry fire. He was actually sliding the "safety" lever in the upward position. Watch the video carefully. It will go from the down position to the up(locked) position as I pan the camera back over the receiver.
is that all stock or did you change out the fire control group? I've heard of several people doing that with good results. btw need to get that thing changed over to a pistol grip config man!
an AK-47 is a model of weapon. it is a Kalishnikov Design modified to shoot 2 3/4" and 3" 12 gauge shells. it ha salot of interesting features that make it different from a 7.62x39 ak-47. all of which you can find out when you go buy your own =)
theyll never ban air weapons too many of them around.
the fucked up thing is illegal firearms are fuckin cheaper than air pistols/rifles and easier to get a hold of if u know the right (or wrong) people. the streets are already fuckin flooded with illegal firearms and 8-14yr old kids carry them.
Yeah could not agree more the laws here are crazy some junkie fuck shoots a kid in the head with an air rifle the kid dies ..Laws reaction ban any cunt from owning an air rifle its typical of this fucking country.
The idea behind banning firearms completly ha ha criminals will still have guns why ..cos they are criminals and they dont obey laws
true mate, check this a brand spanking new CZ FAC rifle = 325quid, a airgun i want = 600quid.
if you'd want to reduce gun crime one of the obvious things to do is make firearms more expensive than airguns but then u shit on every law abiding tom dick and harry + criminals aren't usually short of afew bob so ur back to sqaure one what the fuck can ya do lol
you must blame them everytime your car breaks down too.
maybe where you are mate, but u know what i have no love/sympathy for americans and i dont really give a fuck who has guns over there cos ill never come there so nowt for me to worry about, n dont bother makin it a racial thing cos white people carry illegal firearms, sell drugs and murder other people too.
see heres my thing i know this is a great gun probably awsome for room clearing, but theres comes a piont where your almost wasting ammo by being able to shoot really fast like 5 rounds a second. in an accuall shoot out you would run out of ammo in ten minutes, there is no possible way to carry that much ammo on yourself, it might help if the converted it to a 410 round, that way you can pack more into a clip, i dont no a shot gun nowadays has completely changed, never no what to expect
That's why marksmanship and discipline are important. If you can go through rounds faster, and each one connects to your target, that's far more efficient than getting the same number of hits slower. And even if you are taking time and aiming each shot, it's still going to be faster, since there's no pumping, and if you have extra loaded magazines, reloading is going to go much, much quicker.
The nice thing about magazines is you can still have a 10 rounder but keep the barrel at 18".
Yeah this thing is a beast it embarrases the AA-12 if you can do 5 rounds per seconds that 300 rounds per minute in semi and thats what the AA-12 gets on full auto. When i clocked the rate of fire on full auto for the Saiga 12 it was 800 RPM. Which is fast for anything but godlike for a shogun.
Seriously???!!!! Sir, please note that this gun is a SEMI-automatic firearm. I'm sure he will take the fact that you have mistaken his quick shooting for a full automatic, but the fact is: YOU ARE WRONG. Please, do your research before you make stupid remarks. Thanks.
For a guy who seems to be a gun expert, I'd think you could tell the difference between an autp and semi auto. And even then, how do you know it's unregistered?
So you talked shit, were wrong and looked like an idiot, and then you ask if the shooter wants a cookie? Could have saved some face and just not posted.
because the Saiga takes clips... think about it... the mossberg 590, the remington 870 and the Benelli tactical shotguns are all TUBE fed shotguns. the magazine is fixed to the gun. the time it takes to reload a tube cant compare to loading a clip and then putting the clip into the saiga 12. Plus the Saiga 12 clips are huge because 12 gauge ammo is huge. What I am saying is the tube fed guns make more tactical sense in a military scenario because you can fit more rounds in a closer space.
8 12 gauge rounds fired into anything , automatically, without having to pump, seems a whole hellava lot tactical than a moss or remmy. not to mention it's basically a 12 gauge AK so reliability is there. plus they have drum clips. sight alone is a deterrent
true but, you can get semi automatic tube fed guns that are just as quick. I.E. the benelli m4. my point is, you can reload a tube faster than you can reload a clip. on the sagia you would have to drop the clip, reload, put clip back in gun. plus the clips are huge, where on the tube guns you can just wear a 50 round ammo bandolier and be selective on what roudn you need when. you can chamber a 00 buck round in front of a slug if need be with tube. why do you think the Marines use the tube-fed?
Clips in shotguns? Only in COD 4. Never heard of a 'clip' for a 12 ga. Hell, let me go drop a boxy camper on my chevy and stick a H3 emblem on the side and now I have a hummer...not. Clips ≠ magazines. Please, learn the difference.
mossberg 590 > S12, im not fond of it. I have a 590 and it makes sense. clip load 12ga. is not such a good idea. sure its somewhat exotic but for self defense Id much rather have a mossberg 590, rem. 870 or benelli
But in my defence the military used the 97 from WW1 all the way up to the end of Veitnam . Yes it may be old and have walnut in place of carbonfiber but in the hands of a pro it's just as deadly .
That is such an ignorant remark. Some guns are more reliable than others. Some are easier to use. Some are cheaper than others. there are so many factors that seperate guns into catagories that matter.
The Saiga is a great system. I have video on here of mine going through several rounds quickly too. I think it was 7 rounds, but I'm not sure. Took around a second.
It's semi-automatic. Also, there are Saiga-12 variants with pistol grip and foldable stock. Also, there is a Verp-12 semi-automatic shotgun based on RPK rather than AK that has different kind of stock and lots of Weaver Rails, I plan to buy one when my license is ready.
Bump fire that SOB
crustyjack007 1 year ago
what's the max capacity in that bad boy?
tusepagliacco 1 year ago
@tusepagliacco Depends on what size magazine you choose. They have different magazine sizes and drum mags as well.
vincent13vega 1 month ago
best product russia has made since the AK47... AND VODKA!!!
monkeypoo3000 1 year ago
@LichGeneral I've shot them out to 150 yards, and I realize it could have gone farther. I shot an old piece of junk left at the range with Winchester Super X 2 3/4 inch 00buck and rifled slug combos. After doing so, I realize I could have pushed it to 175 yards and maybe with a slug out to 200 yards, but that would have been quite a stretch.
ohthejoyslick 1 year ago
Would you call this an accurate shotgun?
I have seen some clips where they shoot the Saiga-12 to extreme ranges (for a shotgun).
LichGeneral 1 year ago
saiga 12 is a cool gun dont get me wrong but for what it cost I might put the money toward a trench gun or an m1 garand
botlebmb565 1 year ago
@FuckinCrazyness But your Remington isn't in a AK47 Frame :)
I have a Saiga Ak. One of my favorites
tmac01134 1 year ago
awsome shooting i wish there was a dealer close 2 me but the next is 1 state over
jugalo121 1 year ago
what ammo r u shooting??????
markdunny81 1 year ago
I have one just like yours vincent. Let me hear you say it one time to you know who.........COME AND GET THEM!!!!! take care my saiga brother!!! From our cold dead fingers huh?!!! 5 dudes with 20 round drums could put up a wall you can't get through. I don't care what kind of gadgets you have. NO SUBSTITUTE FOR MASS QUANTITIES OF MOLTEN LEAD. ouch!
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
that cant be necessary to kill a human being. i think just one will be good enough.
DunkableDave 1 year ago
Zombies, beware! Russians, well now I'm afraid of you even more than I previously was.
SirBraxton1989 1 year ago
dam its da same as my bros but his barrel is longer than yours
bryantsanchez1 1 year ago
Sounds like AA-12.
LamborghiniRevent0n 1 year ago
@LamborghiniRevent0n
sounds like you play too much cod.
Lonewolf6565 1 year ago 3
this gun is badass
texasmercenary 1 year ago
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nice dryfire at the end
GaussRifleGrunt 1 year ago
If you are referring to that "click" at the end when I'm showing the gun closeup; it was NOT a dry fire. He was actually sliding the "safety" lever in the upward position. Watch the video carefully. It will go from the down position to the up(locked) position as I pan the camera back over the receiver.
vincent13vega 1 year ago 18
@vincent13vega oh yeah i see it now
thanks for clarifying
GaussRifleGrunt 1 year ago
@vincent13vega i dry fire at the end as a part of clearing the gun.
Timb0NZ 1 month ago
@GaussRifleGrunt It is called putting it on safe dumbass.
KalashnikovKid762 7 months ago in playlist Gats
@KalashnikovKid762 yeah, my bad. I didn't know the hammer had to be down on an AK-type firearm before you could put the safety on
live and learn
GaussRifleGrunt 7 months ago
imma go duck hunting with mine when i get it
XxClemsonTigersXx 2 years ago 2
is that all stock or did you change out the fire control group? I've heard of several people doing that with good results. btw need to get that thing changed over to a pistol grip config man!
darkmaniac7 2 years ago
It's stock.
vincent13vega 2 years ago
an AK-47 is a model of weapon. it is a Kalishnikov Design modified to shoot 2 3/4" and 3" 12 gauge shells. it ha salot of interesting features that make it different from a 7.62x39 ak-47. all of which you can find out when you go buy your own =)
cyprisjynx 2 years ago
i made 6 shots in a second.
fromrussiawithglove 2 years ago
no its a saiga like it says in the title
LordMarlonCheesecake 2 years ago 3
isnt that just like an ak 47 that shoots shells
jar288 2 years ago
exactly
iGOTCHOPPERS1 2 years ago
its an ak47 type weapon yes. but a 12 gauge.
jud928 2 years ago 10
@jud928 your observation skills are remarkable
stefankinasevych 1 year ago
Can I own one of these in CA?
novabrian 2 years ago
in CA you can't have shit lol
123er567890 2 years ago
I dunno! I was told I can own one if it has a bullet button making it hard to change the clips.
novabrian 2 years ago
In the UK you cant buy any guns they even want to ban air weapons and they are already limited to a usless 12 ftb of pressure
boomerhgt 2 years ago 8
true :/
123er567890 2 years ago
cant buy guns ? :/ well that isnt the britain i live in
ferretinpro 2 years ago
Plaese explain what Britain do you live in .
Is it the same Britain that has the tightest guns laws in the world !
boomerhgt 2 years ago
theyll never ban air weapons too many of them around.
the fucked up thing is illegal firearms are fuckin cheaper than air pistols/rifles and easier to get a hold of if u know the right (or wrong) people. the streets are already fuckin flooded with illegal firearms and 8-14yr old kids carry them.
jus shows what a loada bollocks the laws here are
aceofhearts86 2 years ago
Yeah could not agree more the laws here are crazy some junkie fuck shoots a kid in the head with an air rifle the kid dies ..Laws reaction ban any cunt from owning an air rifle its typical of this fucking country.
The idea behind banning firearms completly ha ha criminals will still have guns why ..cos they are criminals and they dont obey laws
boomerhgt 2 years ago 3
true mate, check this a brand spanking new CZ FAC rifle = 325quid, a airgun i want = 600quid.
if you'd want to reduce gun crime one of the obvious things to do is make firearms more expensive than airguns but then u shit on every law abiding tom dick and harry + criminals aren't usually short of afew bob so ur back to sqaure one what the fuck can ya do lol
aceofhearts86 2 years ago
you are wrong ! the "streets" are full of black kids 14-18 yrs old with illegal firearms....
911mykidsdead 2 years ago
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aceofhearts86 2 years ago
you must blame them everytime your car breaks down too.
maybe where you are mate, but u know what i have no love/sympathy for americans and i dont really give a fuck who has guns over there cos ill never come there so nowt for me to worry about, n dont bother makin it a racial thing cos white people carry illegal firearms, sell drugs and murder other people too.
aceofhearts86 2 years ago
@boomerhgt im sorry man.
CJLongoproduction09 1 year ago
It's questionable, I mean im not sure about California Laws. I would think so, but you couldn't get the vast majority of the accesories.
dbmccart 2 years ago
The answer is yes, but you must have a mag-lock. It's really stupid, but it's CA.
sidewinderl 2 years ago 4
you can here some one in the back going "what the hell"
southernairsofter 2 years ago
see heres my thing i know this is a great gun probably awsome for room clearing, but theres comes a piont where your almost wasting ammo by being able to shoot really fast like 5 rounds a second. in an accuall shoot out you would run out of ammo in ten minutes, there is no possible way to carry that much ammo on yourself, it might help if the converted it to a 410 round, that way you can pack more into a clip, i dont no a shot gun nowadays has completely changed, never no what to expect
drakeaengland 2 years ago
That's why marksmanship and discipline are important. If you can go through rounds faster, and each one connects to your target, that's far more efficient than getting the same number of hits slower. And even if you are taking time and aiming each shot, it's still going to be faster, since there's no pumping, and if you have extra loaded magazines, reloading is going to go much, much quicker.
The nice thing about magazines is you can still have a 10 rounder but keep the barrel at 18".
AreThereNoMoreNames 2 years ago
Best shotgun in my opinion, so simple yet so powerful :)
KapetanOrgazmo 2 years ago 2
GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY!!!
salmonking007 2 years ago 2
Yeah this thing is a beast it embarrases the AA-12 if you can do 5 rounds per seconds that 300 rounds per minute in semi and thats what the AA-12 gets on full auto. When i clocked the rate of fire on full auto for the Saiga 12 it was 800 RPM. Which is fast for anything but godlike for a shogun.
dbmccart 2 years ago 2
I'm buying a Saiga-12 tomorrow for $600, buying some accessories, and have access to a full-auto conversion :)
Darkgod171990 2 years ago
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Hope you have access to the lube you will need in federal prison for the felony posession of a automatic firearm (Unregistered).
mrstickball 2 years ago
Seriously???!!!! Sir, please note that this gun is a SEMI-automatic firearm. I'm sure he will take the fact that you have mistaken his quick shooting for a full automatic, but the fact is: YOU ARE WRONG. Please, do your research before you make stupid remarks. Thanks.
vincent13vega 2 years ago
"and have access to a full-auto conversion"
~Darkgod171990
now stfu and learn to read plz
robbykane 2 years ago
For a guy who seems to be a gun expert, I'd think you could tell the difference between an autp and semi auto. And even then, how do you know it's unregistered?
bgoodrick 2 years ago
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83scarface 2 years ago
No it wasn't...use a stopwatch from first fire to last fire.
vincent13vega 2 years ago
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83scarface 2 years ago
So you talked shit, were wrong and looked like an idiot, and then you ask if the shooter wants a cookie? Could have saved some face and just not posted.
bgoodrick 2 years ago
because the Saiga takes clips... think about it... the mossberg 590, the remington 870 and the Benelli tactical shotguns are all TUBE fed shotguns. the magazine is fixed to the gun. the time it takes to reload a tube cant compare to loading a clip and then putting the clip into the saiga 12. Plus the Saiga 12 clips are huge because 12 gauge ammo is huge. What I am saying is the tube fed guns make more tactical sense in a military scenario because you can fit more rounds in a closer space.
MadMediuM 2 years ago
8 12 gauge rounds fired into anything , automatically, without having to pump, seems a whole hellava lot tactical than a moss or remmy. not to mention it's basically a 12 gauge AK so reliability is there. plus they have drum clips. sight alone is a deterrent
thaw555 2 years ago
That's why you have more than a couple of magazines loaded and ready to go.
Lets see you carry around an extra full tube for your Moss or 870.
Oh, that's right, you cant!
OneQuickFour 2 years ago
true but, you can get semi automatic tube fed guns that are just as quick. I.E. the benelli m4. my point is, you can reload a tube faster than you can reload a clip. on the sagia you would have to drop the clip, reload, put clip back in gun. plus the clips are huge, where on the tube guns you can just wear a 50 round ammo bandolier and be selective on what roudn you need when. you can chamber a 00 buck round in front of a slug if need be with tube. why do you think the Marines use the tube-fed?
MadMediuM 2 years ago
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johndstoner 2 years ago
Clips in shotguns? Only in COD 4. Never heard of a 'clip' for a 12 ga. Hell, let me go drop a boxy camper on my chevy and stick a H3 emblem on the side and now I have a hummer...not. Clips ≠ magazines. Please, learn the difference.
UpcomingJedi 2 years ago
mossberg 590 > S12, im not fond of it. I have a 590 and it makes sense. clip load 12ga. is not such a good idea. sure its somewhat exotic but for self defense Id much rather have a mossberg 590, rem. 870 or benelli
MadMediuM 2 years ago
Why is it not a good idea? Because it is lighter, or because it is faster?
spraynpray 2 years ago 2
awsome
PaulHark9 3 years ago
It look's like a fine weapon but I'll stick tomy 1897 pump gun .
Ya I'm old school but what can ya say right !
Herbymac0811 3 years ago
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Yea that is way oldschool. You perfer an antique shotgun? Get with the times man.
madeinamerica650 3 years ago
Hey what ever floats your boat right ?
But in my defence the military used the 97 from WW1 all the way up to the end of Veitnam . Yes it may be old and have walnut in place of carbonfiber but in the hands of a pro it's just as deadly .
Herbymac0811 3 years ago 3
How many rounds does the 97 hold? Can it fire 3 inch shells?
madeinamerica650 3 years ago
1897's are sexy beasts.
spraynpray 2 years ago
"get with the times" comments like that just make me roll my eyes, guns are guns respect peoples taste
scottiethebody0 2 years ago
"guns are guns"???
That is such an ignorant remark. Some guns are more reliable than others. Some are easier to use. Some are cheaper than others. there are so many factors that seperate guns into catagories that matter.
madeinamerica650 2 years ago
yea but still a gun is a gun no matter wat category its innot matter if its a sniper or pistol its still a gun
sharperbullet 2 years ago
Yea I gues. Different guns are suited to different roles though.
madeinamerica650 2 years ago
yea but scottie just said that guns are guns and thats true it doesnt matter what role its used for
GUNS ARE GUNS
sharperbullet 2 years ago
The Saiga is a great system. I have video on here of mine going through several rounds quickly too. I think it was 7 rounds, but I'm not sure. Took around a second.
IzzyShooter 3 years ago
It would be damn funny if someone tryed robbing your house and you had one of these in your hand! Blow the bastards back out.
gagecube 3 years ago
Blow their back out? They make 20-round drum magazines for the Saiga-12. With that, you can practically vaporize them :-)
rnecas 3 years ago
great for turkey hunting
downpeta 3 years ago
Nice video. Fellow S12 owner myself.
waltham41 3 years ago
HOLY S#&~! That's fast; is that in AUTOMATIC or civilian market?
NewProfile001 3 years ago 2
It's semi-automatic. Also, there are Saiga-12 variants with pistol grip and foldable stock. Also, there is a Verp-12 semi-automatic shotgun based on RPK rather than AK that has different kind of stock and lots of Weaver Rails, I plan to buy one when my license is ready.
TrueFileJunkie 3 years ago 3
you can also get the saiga and add the rails after. Tromix sells them i think.
vinnyraf 3 years ago
its civilian. converting to pistol grip is not hard and there is a huge parts market for it.
dabassmasta 3 years ago 2