Presidential Forum on Faith, Values & Poverty (5 of 6)

[rigso321]

hmmm Hillary is amazing. I hope she gets to be president one day, though I'm happy with Obama

[southclark]

Clinton is absolutely brilliant.

God, please, please, make her our next president.

[00red00baron]

Faith isn't only a traditional relidious manifestation. Many spiritual people who never attended a service have faith in a greater power and derive moral values and ethical conduct from such ideology. Faith is for the faithful not only the religious.

[Keithjustinburton]

Now, that said, everything these candidates are saying in relation to ethics and morals are entirely and only that: ethics and moral principles. Those are different from and not ultimately linked to religious faith. Everyone can be moral. The discussion should have been solely about morality and ethics, not faith.

[Keithjustinburton]

And, I'm certain that Jefferson, Madison, and all of those who agreed or compromised with that proposition, were very wise in the ways of politics. Nothing good comes when a presidential election is centered around religious faith, nor does anything good come from representatives taking religious sides in political discourse. Why? Because there are tons of different views on the matter, and no way of verifying them. Thus, it divides us, rather than unifies.

[Keithjustinburton]

Proof? During his tenure in the first United States Congress, he shot down two measures which tried to allot property for churches. To him, as it should be for all Americans, government and religion should be kept as far apart as possible. Religious faith (which is, in essence, a belief in non-verifiable, metaphysical assumptions about the universe), is an entirely personal matter. Not one which has any role in governance.

[Keithjustinburton]

Know what I find funny? James Madison believed in a God, and yet, in drafting the Constitution, one of the very first things he did, other than enable freedom of speech, was to prevent the government (which is comprised of representatives) from sponsoring or establishing religion of any sort. He didn't want the two mixed up closely ever again, at all, period.

[loojceeb75]

HOW DOES FAITH GUIDE OUR VOTE? this is pathetic. i vote because of logical reasons not stupid faith. no such thing as GOD. c'mon. reality check.

[internetta]

Logical. Hmmmm I bet it could take me 4 questions to get you to confess that your vote is tied to Religion. I'm sure you're up for the challenge so question #1 is "what candidate are you voting for?

[loojceeb75]

stop christianity from using their old outdated beliefs in american's politic.

[loojceeb75]

leave faith out of politic. no wonder sometimes i like communist. COMMUNIST FOR ALL! no religion. religion is retarded and it causes wars.

[MAGONZACO]

so why dont go to cuba?

[lucaswatson]

for their weopen and if he was so scared of not haveing oil he could of thrown a piece of would in outer space it would became an island sooner or later and if was frozen and beleived in cryongenics he would of found all the oil he wanted the dumb ass

[lucaswatson]

and have one group look for where most people are where the biggest weopen is and to have look where no one else is their all stupid plus he could of just used a metal detecting robot or remote control object how stupid are they or snuck someone in to capture their leaders build us better read

[lucaswatson]

but i do believe bush only was in the miltary to clear his name becuase he don't know shit about war any one at all knows the way to find weapons is to split up in three .

[lucaswatson]

i mean their natural consqeunce if you lie people won't thrust you and will need to regain your thrust but three strikes and your out is my belief of course im very leniant and i practice what i preach but i also believe in following your gut feeling

[lucaswatson]

no body elected them to lie steal or make bad judgement they do that on their own the sooner they relize that the better i mean i go by the storey theirs statistic and you should stick with them the only time people should change their mind is when its an life and death situation. becuase anyone would even god would i don't think jeueses would of made that discion if he wasnt able to come back from the dead once in while.

[lucaswatson]

you don't chose extremes i many don't like bill personally but as president he was fine but the truth is one shouldnt make all look bad but all shouldnt be assholes just becuas they think they can it just not asseptable i mean nothing give them the right to do so all must act like humans becuase thats all they are and ever will be

[lucaswatson]

why are their so many fucked up people why can't people let people be and give instead of take i mean thats how you get people to do what you want that exactly how that and telling the truth.

[lucaswatson]

yah right i don't like her she would have us her slaves hell no i don't like her already

[houmanrm]

As a non american, so strange US politics is so much into religion. -

[ky8563le]

You don't need god with or without a capital G to be a moral individual. Please tell me, honestly, when caring about underrepresented and underprivileged individuals became synonymous with being a Marxist, and a lase faire attitude about EVERYTHING except social issues became the standard for so called capitalism.

[youngsinfo]

umm- -she doesn't always tell the truth but who does. She is tough nut to crack .

Can you say pseudo waffle?

[dentex1986]

pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, anti-GOD, what exactly does hillary clinton know about morals? she has values, alright:SOVIET VALUES

[todnyc]

lol...you are mentally retarded

[8starli]

I was able to attend this forum and while I enjoyed hearing from all of the candidates, Hilary is the one!!!Intelligent, sincere,and apparently too smart for most men :)

[BreachedWall]

Faith isnt necessary to lead a moral life. Faith isnt important.

Atheism ftw.

[ndeutsch]

vote Ron Paul 08

lower taxes, end the Iraq war, end the war on drugs, uphold the constitution, uphold your liberties!

[KISC77]

Hillary Clinton 2008!

Republicans? Screw that!

Vote democrat!

[xtoloveistolivex]

I'm a woman, and I would totally be all for having a woman president. I don't think that someone should be elected just because they have more experience. For some reason, Hilary strikes me as someone that is only out for herself. I find it hard to believe anything she says. I think everything she says is for show. That's the vibe I get from her. Obama seems a lot more open and very passionate about our country and what he wants to do with it.

[devilembace]

sorry, but I think u've surrendered to the media. Most rich white women are jealous of her, and working class women love her.  HIlary is for the ppl, please reassess why u dislike her. Obama's marketing has done a good job on you.

[xtoloveistolivex]

Well, I'm definitely not rich. I'm working class. Like I said, I'm usually an excellent judge of character, and she seems very shifty to me. I do agree with her on some of her views, and I have done research for myself. I am not easily led by marketing campaigns. Barack Obama is someone whom I believe would make an excellent president. We share the same views on just about everything.

[lookingglass322]

hillary rocks !!!!

[SonicBoomC98]

I really don't know what soem of you people are talking about. I thought it was a nice interview, and she was even a little funny at times. She seems loose to me.

[SonicBoomC98]

Why are soem of you people so uptight and sinical?

[maraljan]

ya she voted for the war...RON PAUL DIDN"T you want to vote for someone who really wants peace? RON PAUL IS YOUR MAN FOR PREZ.

I'm a woman, and I wont vote for someone just because she is a woman I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR A TRUE AMERICAN whether he or she is a female, male, hermaphordite, blue, green, purple or whatever.

Don't label people, vote for them because they are true Americans, not because of their sex or ethnic/religious background.

[chadsteele3]

people are so threatened by a strong woman lol so sad are country!!why is this even a topic for the presidency faith and religion,so dumb,Hillary is the best no question over 35 yrs expereince!!!but im not going to debate with alot of the uneducated voters on here!

[tubeboobz]

Take it home baby!!! Hillary 2008!!!!!

[dornydorny123]

I like Hillary, she is so confident and strong. And please do some research on her before judging her, most people don't know how competent and smart this woman is. Consider the fact that the reason you hate her might be that there is a conflict between the image of a charming woman and a powerful leader. I think if you "hate" her.. you a little sexist.

[pajkost]

All this talk is a nonsense. Democratcs could probably win this election without resourcing to talking about faith. This is moving backwards. When is America going to join the rest of western civilization? I am not sure how hearing voices and talking to yourself makes anybody a better world leader?