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  • it has no sound :(

  • Thank God for these ministries...I love the fact they are soooooo blessed...makes all the pharisee christians show their true colours!!!!

  • WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING

  • @RavenclawRedhead Yeah you are a Wolf...Thank God you are easy to spot...hard heart...

  • nice message... i heard it loud and clear....

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  • did anyone ever ask the osteens how can they live knowing they ripp off peoples money ?

  • Such a pity that there's no sound! I admire her and love Joel!!!

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  • I love this video!!! cause you can't hear them.

  • Could you please help me,there is no sound on this video.

  • Oh GOD please give me a woman like Victoria. Dont be jealous Joel its a compliment.

  • O spiritually dead ones, this passage speaks to you. "For the love of god, shut the fuck up and stop speaking unaturally by saying things like 'o spiritually dead ones' you comment spamming pirce of horse manure" - Me 1:1-2

  • I support you and Joel carry on the good work you are doing God bless

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speaks to you who are proud and yet fools, “For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak, .Psalm 59:12, For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low.” Isaiah 2:12

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who fall at the feet of these abominations of deceit, “The fear of the LORD is to hate evil, pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.” Proverbs 8:13 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

  • O spiritually dead ones, stand before your altar of carnality, for it is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God, who is not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men. You who seek fleshy wisdom for you are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty. You who are helpless and lost regarding the things of God because you have placed your faith in the wisdom of men.

  • @Rylucero  For the love of God, shut the fuck up already.

  • O spiritually dead ones , the scriptures speaks to you who are boastful, vile, and contemptuous, “The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. Isaiah 2:11, The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. Psalm 10:4, A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. “Proverbs 29:23

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who despise what is just, who distort truth, and who give reverence to fools, “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.” 2 Peter 2:1-2

  • O spiritually dead ones , the scriptures speak to you who is covetousness, who is arrogant, professing much, but knowing little, “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:3 Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.” Proverbs 21:24

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who is callous, to you who is heartless, to you who is arrogant and to you who is demanding, “For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. I will break down your stubborn pride. Psalm 10:3 They close up their callous hearts, and their mouths speak with arrogance Psalm 17:10 Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. Psalm 31:18

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who is wise in his own eyes, “The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity. Psalms 94:111. Treasures of wickedness profit nothing: but righteousness delivereth from death. Proverbs 10:2 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. James 1:26 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.” Psalms 10:7

  • O spiritually dead ones, woe unto you who defend these false teachers and false prophets, you who hate knowledge, you who fear truth, you workers of iniquity who deny His word and in doing so deny His Father. “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21, “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” Matthew 7:23

  • O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to fools who pay homage to these false prophets, and false teachers, it speaks to the profane, to the vile and to the wicked, “Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits Isaiah 30:10 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon.” Isaiah 30:12

  • O spiritually dead ones, scripture speaks to you who have chosen to fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, to you who stand before your altar of deceit, to you who pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils, for to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6, But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition, Timothy 6:9

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  • O spiritually dead ones, pay homage to these fools who teach these despicable doctrines because you have chosen to venerate them for they have become your idols, submit and adore them for you walk among the dead, Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. Revelation 3:17

  • O spiritually dead ones, you do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience. You wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. Your desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart. Fall before the alter of prosperity and materialism, for that is your true desire and reward.

  • The scriptures speak to those who sow discord among the breathen, to those who are weakminded, perverse, insolent and scornful, Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Romans 16:17 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Proverbs 6:19

  • The scriptures speaks of those whose walk is disorderly and who exhibit despicable attributes regarding the brethren, Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 2 Thessalonians 3:6

  • Scripture speaks to those who are boastful, vile, and contemptuous, The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. Isaiah 2:11, The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. Psalm 10:4, A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. Proverbs 29:23

  • Scripture speaks to those who are proud and yet fools, For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak, .Psalm 59:12, For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low. Isaiah 2:12 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 1 Corinthians 13:4

  • Scripture speaks to the proud of heart and the haughty, “To fear the LORD is to hate evil, I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech Proverbs 8:13, Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. Proverbs 16:18, Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished. Proverbs 16:5, When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom Proverbs 11:2

  • O spiritually dead ones, fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, stand before your altar of deceit, pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils, For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6, But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition, Timothy 6:9

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  • This is a wonderful video, but seriously speaking, I don't hear the audio...No sound is coming from my computer for this video. Is anyone else having this same problem?

  • she has a thing for young hispanic males,...google it,..i shit you not!

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  • @kmcl11 wtf?...show me ur channel?

  • keepyour hispanic male bs of of here.

  • @wilatemodel dude u are trippin i couldn't find that info anywhere on google

  • @sirwill619 they took it down,...further proof Google & the osteens are on the payrool of the "New world order"....wouldnt want your star "false prophet" to be taken down before they are ready for him....

  • Shes beautyfulll

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen, Many of you today know this, you believe it down here in your heart. But the reason that you're not experiencing as much as you should is because you're not declaring it. You've got to give life to your faith by speaking it out. Your words have creative power. When you go around saying, 'I have favor, people want to be good to me and supernatural doors are opening.' This form of decreeing and affirmation is demonic in nature.

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen, “I believe one of the main ways that we grow in favor is by declaring it. It’s not enough to just read it it’s not enough to just believe it. You’ve got to speak it out. Your words have creative power. And one of the primary ways we release our faith is through our words. And there is a divine connection between you declaring God’s favor and you seeing God’s favor manifest in your life. You’ve got to give life to your faith by speaking it out.”

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen “There’s power in what you visualize,” “take a few moments each day to visualize things you want in your life so God can bring them to pass He then tells a story about a coach and his team “Close your eyes and envision winning the game”, “they produced exactly what they saw.”  You must conceive it in your heart and mind before you can receive it.” This form of Creative Visualization is nothing more than an occultic technique.

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen speaks,” Joel that sounds like wishful thinking. No, that's using your words to create what you need. You can cancel out God's best plan by speaking negative words. You can change your world by simply changing your words. You can use words to bless your life or curse your life. Start calling in victory. Start calling in divine health. Start calling in abundance. You can prophesize your future.You may have sickness in your body; you need to call in health.”

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel speaks, “You may be in debt, you need to boldly say that you are the head and not the tail. You need to declare good things over your life. If you wanna know where you'll be five years from now, listen to what you are saying. Your circumstances will line up with your words. Words are like seeds, they have creative power. Fear is a force just like faith is a force." This is another gospel that argues that we can create our own realities through vain repetition.

  • Here is a lie that comes straight from the mouth of the devil.Look at how Victoria disagrees with the words of Jesus Christ. Jesus our great GOD & SAVIOR said "He that loves his life shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."John 12:25.Jesus taught us to hate our lives and here's victoria twisting what Jesus said already.Who are you going to believe?JESUS or Victoria?How dare she & her husband use God's name to prosper them.

  • I bet her asshole tastes so sweet. It needs my meat, balls deep.

  • victoria OSTEEN....can i FUCK YOU....IN THE ASSHOLE....

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    fukin retard pervert, go fuck ur own mom

  • @BikeRanger100 can i fuck your mom bike ranger.....send her over to my place on ur bike...beeaacchh.....ill have a 3some ur mom victoria and me....all the way...u whore

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    I know ur mom put u in dustbin after ur bloody birth...thats y u so pervert.

  • @BikeRanger100 Son dont talk about your granny this way...

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    I love ur mom...n she loves me too.

  • @BikeRanger100 now thats how u should talk like a true grandson....good boy...ur learning manners rather quickly...btw ur mums great...she asked me to convey her regards biker boy...my SON...

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    well ur mom was with me last night,..gave her a big orgasm...hehe

  • @BikeRanger100 you are my incest SON. how can u talk of making out with ur granny....this is what happens after most divorces....kids go astray....try and fuck a dog to get rid of ur depravity ...spare ur granny haha...

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    Hey mentally retarded...because ur mother is my GF , i tolerate ur nonsence...don't take undue advantage of that...

  • @BikeRanger100 again my little incest SON...ur not a animal to fuck your own mother....gosh i should have put u down when u were a kid and buried u in my back yard ...u r growing up to be a depraved incestuous bastard...go fuck a dog SOn...and spare your mom

  • @diabolicaldaniel

    So, u frm country of Dikshit CM's country, leme tell u that ur using our language, our website and even our foreign religion...that tells who's ur daddy ...stupid slumdog .. Lolz

  • @tawnygirlwk37 I believe this scripture means hates your old life outside of Christ,once you have Christ you love the life he gives you.

    Also this scripture says no one is supposed to hate their body's.

    Ephesians 5:29-30

    29 For no one ever hated his own flesh,but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church,

  • because Victoria Osteens stands up for Christ he stood up for her through her dificult times !

  • Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew 7:16 (KJV) Beware of these Jezebels who are both arrogant and prideful, who are nothing more than self-appointed false prophetesses, who lust for fleshly indulgences, who condone spiritual compromise as well as moral compromise, and who pervert the Word of God.

  • This may sound bad, but I have pleasured myself to Victoria more than a few times.

  • @tawnygirlwk37 you've misunderstood the scripture

  • Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Revelation 2:20 (KJV) Beware of these Jezebels who are both arrogant and prideful, who are nothing more than self-appointed false prophetesses, who lust for fleshly indulgences, who condone spiritual compromise as well as moral compromise, and who pervert the Word.

  • This woman doesn't even know how to hid her racism. Come on , why doesn't she admit that she cursed that black women?! Jesus will have mercy of her.....

  • Haha I feel sorry for this woman. I've had several affairs with Joel while he was "married"

  • @Afraid0fGhosts well I dont think so because I am sure Joel Osteen prefers atraktive women !!!!

  • victoria and joel are both false teachers. they teach about loving yourself..to prosper in health, riches and relationships. we are not called to worship ourselves and be delusional. this type of preaching is inconsistent with the bible and does not glorify Jesus, but only disgraces the truth of God and those who hear this message.

  • @crazy3diamond Amen!! You couldn't be more right. Nothing against the lady at all except the fact that she teaches false doctrine, but she kinda acts like a pagent contestant answering her pagent questions...

  • @crazy3diamond Thats right!! We need to worship God and be delusional instead!!

  • Hear the Word of The LORD Spoken to THIS Modern Generation @:

    dubdubdub . TrumpetCallofGodOnline . c0m

    YouTube: ThusSaithYah or TrumpetCallofGod

  • Rylucero is right. Notice in this video not once is sin mentioned. The point of this video is just about HER book. Not GOD's Bible. I seriously doubt that Victoria grew up and was always 100% accepted for who she is just because of who she is and love love love and never any correction or negativivty. This video glorifies Victoria and not Jesus. People be careful!!

  • she is gorgeous!! I cant help to have a crush on her..and Joel Osteen is a cool guy to..God bess!

  • Prophets have been called by God to speak for Him and to be His messenger. God speaks to these men who are commanded to reveal to mankind His plan of salvation, His will, His character, and His truth. A prophet testifies of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, that He died for our sins, they preach of repentance, condemnation, judgment, sin, and eternal torment. These are the things that prophets of God do, but that Joel Osteen as a false prophet does not.

  • NO. Prophets have been called to testify about GOD only, this is why there are not christian prophets.....Prophets do not worship people, unles they are false prophets

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all? Osteen then responds, you know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know. Joel Osteen by his very words denies that acceptance of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior is the only way that salvation is possible for the unbeliever.

  • Joel Osteen is right, according to the law of the prophets, only God can decide who is saved . . . . Worshiping a Jesus man is against the law of God

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, if you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they? Osteen then responds, Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. But I just think that only God will judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. Joel by his own ignorance or deceit equates the god(s) of Hinduism with that of the Lord Jesus Christ!

  • The quotable false Prophet Joel Osteen on Larry King Live, King asks Joel, how about issues that the church has feelings about? Abortion? Same-sex marriages? Osteen responds, Yeah. You know what, Larry? I don't go there. King asks, you don't call them sinners? Osteen responds, I don't. King later asks, is that a word you don't use? Osteen responds back, I don't use it.. Although, Joel doesnt use it, the  word "sin" appears in the King James Version of the Bible hundreds of times!

  • So... i'd rather let the dead bury the dead..

    Let the blind lead the blind. I won't bother myself about it anymore. May God Blesses them in Truth!

  • She is VERY PRETTY! I love her voice too... :)

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  • Did Jesus Said to Peter after He asked if he loved Him "Sell Books To My Sheep?" I am tired of this false christians..

  • @just0408

    Uhh Christians have been selling books for nearly a hundred years, I can't name one major ministry that hasn't sold books. It's how many books he has sold and your jealousy over his success that is the issue.

    Don't hide your lust behind a false concern for Christianity, it is quite unappealing.

  • @Aphoresis

    I won't judge her for that would be my prejudice.. i leave the judgement to The Almighty God.. If her succes is taking away for eternity then she will be the one that's jaleaus isn't it? This live is an illusion, do not gather treasures on earth, my friend, they will perish.. Build on The Truth, Jesus Christ. You will suffer persecution, tribulations in this world.. When i look at her all i see is prosperity and the sun shining all the time. Life's just not like that, that's a lie.

  • I think a person's gossip and slander against other members in the body of Christ is far more likely to take away from their eternity than having money. Your comment seems to be more about the fact that you are apparently unhappy and think others should be rather than about the Bible teaches.

    is that unhappiness persecution for Christ's sake? because that is what Jesus was talking about.

  • @Aphoresis

    I am just follow My Lord and Saviour, also through hard times and i make my faults also.. But i think there are a lot of people claiming to know Christ while they love the darkness more. But God knows.

    1 Thes 5:21 - Test all things; hold fast what is good.

    So i hold fast on The Rock. Not on worldy or fleshy things..

  • @Aphoresis

    You my dear are right a lot of dark replies in the name of the lord .

    To be happy or not to be that is the question ?

  • The only reason I even watched this, is because, she is super hot.

    I think of all the dirty stuff she must do in the bedroom. Two words. Deep Throat!!!

  • She should be able to have her own Jet and have it fixed up like a princess. Than no one will bother her.

  • I have to give it to these false prosperity gospel preachers. They don't seem to know the consequences of pushing false teaching. Even the title of her book is unbiblical. "He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."

    John 12:25.

  • @Jossher700

    and you don't seem to know the consequences of sowing discord in the Body of Christ.

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  • How sure are you that Joel Osteen is within the body of Christ?

  • watch?v=6GD9xFn2CHk

  • Yup saw it. He talks about "OUR" best days, just like his book, YOUR best life now. He misses the point that's its not about US but CHRIST. I do not see any difference between him and the other prosperity gospel charlatans out there. watch?v=h4EjygNheQk&feature=re­lated

  • Uhh no he isn't, he is giving an alter call in that video.

    and anyone who genuinely thinks that it is about Christ rather than US will believe Divine prosperity.

    The narcissist will not.

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  • God bless you Victoria abundantly. Praise to God. God is our Judge

  • Those two are friggen creepy.

  • my future predictions for the Osteen's:

    Joel and Victoria will be convicted of fraud and they'll divorce.the church will become the world's largest gentlemen's club.

    Joel will become the bitch of the Aryan's while serving his 200 year prison sentence in Huntsville,TX.

    Victoria,who is already addicted to coke,will resort to making triple anal penetration/bukkake/bestality films to support her addiction.

    all praise and glory to BABA BOOEY!!

  • How is she a pastor?

    "I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly." 1 Timoth 2:12

    Most people, specially women, will thumb down this comment. Why? Because they'd rather go by todays belief system and not the Bible's. Sad? Indeed it is.

  • I like to have sex wearing Vanilla Chap Stick. Sad? Indeed it is.

  • Lol? I dont get it.

  • It doesn't matter who she is or whether she is female or male, it is God who is speaking through her. There are so many wonderful female preachers who do such great teaching because it is God using them and God speaking through them. Think of Joyce Meyer, Bobbie Houston, Holly Wagner etc. God chooses to use them - it is up to him!! Praise God!

  • Umm it clearly states in the Bible for women not to preach the word to a congregation. It is also stated across the Bible that God prefers obedience over sacrifices. So I doubt God would be pleased about someone sinning.

  • 'let god fight your battles for you'

    who, obama?

  • I don't like this woman. She's too flashy to give a good Christian example. I expected someone humbler. She sounds kind of patronizing for my liking.

  • well ain't she just a SAINT.

  • Great, love Victoria Osteen... God Bless ya sista Victoria:-)

  • Just don't let her get on a plane. That Fine was less than a drop of bucket for violating FAA rules.

  • she's quite cute. nice one joel!

  • victoria olsteen is a PERFECT example for christian women!!!!!!!!! There are not many women like her.

  • Yah, now I see... I have spent too much time around this type of kind people. Now everybody looks rude to me... LOL She's a sweet bunny, isn't she?

  • 2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.

    Reprove--To convict, to refute

    Joel Osteen never does that to his audience. He never even mentions sin. The word sin is used 447 times in the bible and he never uses it. The man is no Christian.

  • Amen!

  • Amen to you to Timothy!

  • Yes, it is delightful that a jury of your peers decide for acquittal. Some time ago, OJ, too was also very happy. Oh no! Not another book? Well, this one is going to cost you about $19, which they forget to mentioned. Can a bus load of homeless people come by the 700 Club and get help?

  • you people are sooooooo jelouse of someone elses prosperty. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters both god and money so they are obviosly pleasing god not man. Money should stop people from working what god wants them to do and maybe your a hopeless boring negative pastor who judges people.

  • Or maybe I judge and expose false doctrine as I am told too. Grow up and get winged off of the watered down social gospel and maybe you can then digest the meat of the word. Until then you will never hold down solid doctrine.

  • who tells you to? Are you suggesting you have more authority over Christs' doctrine than Mr. And Mrs. Joel Osteen?

    You better be prepared to say that Christ Himself gives you authority to judge others. Because you are on shaky ground, my friend.

    There is nothing NON-doctrinal about what they preach...they just don't judge others as hell-bound because they rightly admit they do not know.

  • she is hot i would fucke her anyday hahahahahahahahahaha show her whos demons in bed

  • god she's hot.

  • He truly did show his true colors on Larry King. I always had a feeling in my spirit that he was a fake. Victoria showed her true colors on an airplane. She is only concerned with her reputation, where was mercy for that women who lost faith in God through the actions of this evil hearted women. What is the God option.

  • I wonder if you would care about YOUR reputation if you were being wrongly branded a racist?

    So people can't care about their reputation?

    Besides, she didn't even condemn that despicable human being trying to extort money....she took the high road by being positive and charitable...good for her--hardly concerned for her reputation...it sounds like she cares about the happiness of other people.

  • i'd like to get her hair's color code before my next trip to the drugstore.

  • I am the Pastor of a small Baptist Church and get paid just enough to fill my gas tank. I have to work a full time job away from the church to make ends meet. I doubt Joel would keep preaching if it didnt pay so well for him. (which explains his social gospel and spinless messages.)

    My wife does the cleaning and janitorial work and teaches childrens church and does not get paid a thing for it. You thing Victoria would scrub toilets and get her hair messed up for no pay? I dont.

  • wow...how hateful.

    Maybe your church is small because you're a spiteful man...you condemn her because she has nice hair? Sounds like you are coveting their financial position.

    What do you know of the sacrifices she makes? How judgmental of you. We are ALL beggars, whether we get our nails done, or scrub toilets...good for your wife, but why do you place yourself at odds with another human being? She seems like a lovely lady...I'm glad the Lord has blessed her...I hope they do well.

  • I condemn her because she has nice hair? lol No, I condemn know one, the word of God condemns her for her error in position in the church (so called) and both of their false social gospels.

    By the way, a big church does not mean a blessed church.

  • Or maybe my church is small because I stand for sound doctrine even if it's not popular. 2Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine."

    But not the Osteens, they are "life coaches" even sounds more socially acceptable, friendly, sweet and none judgmental. They can have it, I am a preacher! Therefore I will preach to you! Popular or not, I will tell you what you need to hear, not just what you want to hear.

  • well, I wouldn't go to your church if you are preaching the condemnation of specific people. That absolutely is not 'sound' CHRISTIAN doctrine..it may be your doctrine.

    Christ said in order to be forgiven, we must forgive others of their trespasses...so to the extent that Mr. Osteen is trespassing, you might want to forgive him because I'm sure you know you are a sinner.

  • I preach the FULL gospel, and many dont have the stomach for it in our day. People today want God and their sins. You and everyone, are welcome at the Church I pastor, nevertheless, you will not be comfortable in your sins under my preaching. Because when I preach the Holy Spirit convicts people of their sin. Never in hate, but I follow Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

  • That's how I feel when people can't 'stomach' the 'fullness' of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ ...much like the Pharisees calling Jesus Christ a blasphemer-- for speaking truth:

    John 10: 33-34

    I'm never comfortable in my sins--I give glory to God for that knowledge, not any man.

    This video is about a woman sharing her testimony in a loving way--she isn't preaching. And you take this opportunity to condemn her? Consider the beam in your own eye, preacher.

  • No beam here friend. You need to do some research on the people you are trying to defend. At the risk of sounding mean I must say, it is very clear you dont understand enough about the Osteen's and their false doctrine to have a productive debate.

    Victoria Osteen is co-pastor with Joel, so yes she does preach. And you do understand that is not Biblical right? It might be politically correct but its not biblically correct. But not much of what the Osteens stand for is.

  • She is co-pastor, but not in this video--she is just a sinner being asked questions about a trying time in her life. She seems like a lovely lady, and I refuse to engage in gossip...neither of us know her very well--but she represents the overall message of the bible very well in this segment...anything else is conjecture.

    I don't necessarily believe that our blessings are measured by prosperity--I think many times our blessings come through serious adversity-- (cont...)

  • HOWEVER, in the eternities--we are taught of our prosperous inheritance..so I don't agree with them on everything--but I don't condemn them either! Since when is preaching faith in God not good enough for an Evangelical? Their works are relevant?

    I do not believe that they are preaching the fullness--but neither are you, in my humble belief. The fullness of the gospel was restored by Jesus Christ through His prophet Joseph Smith--yet I don't condemn you for not accepting that fullness.

  • OH OK! now i see why your so confussed. Your apart of the cult called Mormonism. Have you reached the phase of special underwear yet? LOL

    The Bible is complete and we are warned not to add or take away from it. So what does the book of moron, I mean mormon do?

  • You value your own 'knowledge' of scripture over treating a child of God with kindness---it begs the question, "how much knowledge do you truly have of scripture"?

    I certainly hope you aren't taking tithes of faithful people to pay for your internet service--which apparently you use to be a hateful person. Stunning.

  • Would you like to see how much knowledge and wisdom I have in the HOLY BIBLE the ONLY word of God? Message me and I will show you the danger and error in your following a false prophet and a false doctrine.

    I am sorry for the name calling, Im just a very zealous preacher of sound doctrine and hate to see people caught up in false teachings

    And no, tithes that come into the church dont pay for my internet. I work a 40hr week job outside the church to pay for my internet and est...

  • Apology accepted.

    So far, your teachings seem to be all about how YOU are a 'zealous preacher of sound doctrine', and the bible having more inherent power than a LIVING God.

    Yet nothing about Christ...isn't the bible suppose to point away from itself? Aren't preachers supposed to be giving the glory to God?

    Makes me wonder if you worship your intellect and the bible over the true substance of scripture: Jesus Christ-- of whom is also testified of in the Book of Mormon.

  • Oh really? Humm "I speak of the gifts I have been given by God in His calling me to preach." Statement I made in my comment 2 days ago.

  • you say things like, 'I am of sound doctrine', 'I have so much knowledge and wisdom', 'I will show you'...

    I thought Christ was of sound doctrine, and that God had wisdom that He imparts to us through HIS Holy Spirit...yet you seem to be comfortable in taking credit for the works of a faithful Almighty God.

    And you speak to me about false prophets? Thanks for the warning...but your comments are warning enough.

  • I speak of the gifts I have been given by God in His calling me to preach.

  • You speak of gifts---yet, you believe your perception and spiritual 'gifts' somehow trump the 'gifts' OTHER people have (namely the Osteens and 'morons')??

    Your gifts do not make you AUTHORITATIVE on the interpretation of scripture--you pontificate, but surely disregard papal authority and the authority of Jesus Christs' restored gospel---

    OH THE IRONY--enough to constipate all of Vatican City.

  • The very fact that a mormon feels completely comfortable and not at odds with the Osteen doctrine should be obvious to all that I am right.

  • To the extent that you are 'right, it is not of your doing--that truth is attributed to the Holy Ghost as it is confirmed in the hearts and minds of those who humble themselves enough to be persuaded by that influence.

    If your message was really about God, you would be giving Him the glory--not seeking self-vindication, "...should be obvious to all that I am right!"

    This position of yours is in direct opposition to humility, by thinking you are the source of truth, and ought to be praised

  • Furthermore, I do not place myself at odds with the Osteen's themselves. They seem like lovely god-fearing people. I don't know them personally--and I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    As far as what you characterize as their 'doctrine'...that situation is of little consequence to me. I don't have the responsibility of the Savior--to judge mankind--The Savior has commanded me to love all mankind---so I try to focus on that. Who am I to judge them?

  • I don't doubt that your faith compels you to testify---and I don't belittle that testimony. I think your testimony of Christ is absolutely important in today's world---just as important as the testimony of ANYONE who believes in Christ...for HE is the ONLY WAY.

    Let us not divide ourselves--as Paul taught---like early Christians did. Let us understand the origin of ALL TRUTH, and ALL POWER--and humble ourselves before God. None of us should place ourselves above ANY man--we are all beggars.