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  • Having your sexuality called into question? At least people believe yours is a sexuality in the first place or they see something to question. Asexuality= Non-existent to most people.

  • You're a man, so you're straight.

    Therefore, you're a straight douchebag that dresses up as a woman.

    gg. This guy is a complete moron and he's completely uninteresting

  • @GrawrawrLPs No one's forcing you to watch

  • @GrawrawrLPs you're kidding me.

    if you listen to what she's saying, or if you crack open a book sometime, you'll learn that your anatomy has nothing to do with your gender identity. if someone identifies themselves as being a female, then it's downright disrespectful to say, "No, you're wrong, you're a dude." who's to know better than them whether they're male or female?

    and if you find her so uninteresting, dont come to her videos and troll around. you look like a bored loser.

  • The whole "you've just not met the right (wo)man" statement really seems like a better argument for bisexuality than anything else but bisexuals don't need arguments beyond that it automatically doubles your chances of having a date on a friday night.

  • I felt like ZJ's 'big reveal' was convoluted and I felt like she deliberately avoided the question I just brought forward. For a vlogger who so carefully explains and supports her arguments, this seemed like a poor attempt to be honest about her life while still appear loyal to and part of her huge LGBT fanbase. I would have preferred a complete and honest story or no information about her personal life.

  • @DemitriusWilliams i can't say i agree; adding some information on her personal life makes people crack a grin. it allows her audience to understand where she's coming from. adding a bit of personal information to some of her videos is actually quite smart; it allows some people to better relate to her, and therefor, watch her videos more often.

  • What bothers me about this is not that (we assume) ZJ is biologically male but claims to be a female lesbian, as that is rather normal for mtf transgender people, but, that ZJ made it clear multiple times in previous videos and livestreams that ZJ considered himself a gay male, but enjoyed dressing like a female for his videos. Now, suddenly, he is not only a she, but a lesbian she. That was incredibly jarring to me, and I admit I cried bullshit right away.

  • If you are a lesbian, then you are not a male. therefore you are not a cross-dresser.

    I really wonder what BionicDance has to say about this.

  • You are not a lesbian and you will never be one.

  • Yp have a adams apple ur a dude

  • That is so strange that you are a lesbian. You are a dude. Does that mean my brother is a dyke? Am I a chick with a huge cock big brown balls and no pussy?

    You tell me Zin!!

  • Y r u talkin like that

  • Oh Zinnia, can you really blame people for being confused? Sexuality and gender identity are complicated. I get that, but what about bisexuality? I guess I find it hard to understand someone jumping from exclusively being attracted to men to being exclusively attracted to women. The fact that you appear to identify as trans now makes it even more confusing. Whatever you identify as, I still think you are wonderful even if I am confused by you sometimes.

  • Spot on.

  • Mmmm.. Haven't you waffled on this issue before? Until this video, your previous videos were ambiguous or implied that you were gay. Can you blame people for getting it wrong?

  • I feel your pain, Zinnia. Like, people actually get upset when I walk around referring to myself and my family members as niggers, and I have to sit there and explain that based on how I choose to represent my racial identity that makes it ok, and can you believe those facist hate mongers actually have the nerve to tell me that that's not how that works?

    Hatred everywhere, but stay strong, us niggers have to stick together!

  • The thing is that you are a man.And surprisingly a straight one.I think that maybe You are trying to change everything even Your own gender.Just don't insult other peoples beliefs,that is the only thing that annoys me.Stay OK.

  • Why are people so stupid? Zinna's mtf, and gay. Zinna's a woman, not a man!

  • Guy's cant be Lesbians.... 

  • @ZJemptv: i couldn't have put it better myself. i've been insulted in all these wrong ways b4, every one of them, short of the 2 old and ugly 2 find a decent man. am i really lesbian, am i lesbian enuf, am i true lesbian, am i sure its not just a phase, oh grow up and start dating men already, u haven't been damaged that much. atleast if i were a gay man, no one would b questioning whether i really like ass or not. women aren't a consolation prize!

  • dude you re so annoying

  • @smokinngunn THEN DONT WACH HIS VIDEOS YOUR IDIOT jesus FUCKIGN CHRIST if your gonna wathc a video and if you dont like it leave!!

  • I can fully understand why a lot people find Zinnia's identity confusing, strange, or illogical.

    What I don't understand is why so many of those people feel so insistant that she change her identity to fit in with their way of thinking. Why do they feel the need to tell her she's "wrong".

    I can relate on a more common level. I'm black mixed racially, and I identify as black because I see myself as predominantly physically black (I'm a less black looking black person, not a remotely...

  • ..white looking person) and because I experience life as a black person (perhaps to a somewhat lesser extent than those blacker than myself but in most instances that doesn't seem the case) and not as a white person.

    I can appreciate that many can't understand my self indentity, or that they may view me differently. What I don't appreciate is people telling me I'm wrong or insisting that I change to suit them. Simple ignorance can be easily cured, but many out there are stubbornly insistent.

  • I think I might need a diagram of some sort to help explain this to me. Isn't Zinnia a man? And if so, is s/he actually allowed to refer to him/herself as a lesbian? Isn't it a little misleading? I get that Zinnia considers him/herself to be a woman, and is attracted to women, but how does that work the other way around?

    What I mean is, are lesbians who are biologically female disappointed when they discover that Zinnia is biologically male?

  • @jmarr100

    I know you were meaning to be respectful and are just curious, but damn it amused me when you asked "is s/he actually allowed to refer to him/herself as a lesbian?"

    I can answer that question. No she is not. I've informed the proper authorities, and she will be disciplined accordingly.

    Your last question's intersting though; I'd assume that the answer would depend on what the woman had in mind.

  • She has obviously worked many nerves with this simple statement that she is a lesbian. I mean, how dare someone be of ambiguous gender and proclaim things that blow your simple minds, like a woman can have a penis or a gender ambiguous person can call herself a lesbian! That's the subject for another video here -- the content here is about the short end of the stick lesbians get and Zinnia is as usual on point.

  • lol this just reminds me of mr garrison. This thing was obviously a man at one point that was gay, then decided to get a sex change and then go lesbian LOLOLOLOL.

  • @JN5B11 People aren't THINGS you bigoted asshole.

  • when did you cut off your dick

  • Okay, I generally like your vids, but I'm calling bullshit on you calling yourself a lesbian.

    You have to be a woman, and you're not.

    That you're not typically straight, sure. That you're part of the LGBT community, sure.

    But unless you had a sex change, calling yourself a lesbian is just silly.

    In fact if you're attracted to women I'd say bisexual. If you're ONLY attracted to women, you're actually straight. (Just not typically so.)

    And that's coming from a bisexual.

  • I must say I don't fully understand it either, I have always tried to think rationally and logically. I'm a male atheist, I'm straight & married, but all for gay rights. I don't think gay people should have less rights than anyone else.

    but i dont understand how a man, who dresses as a woman (no problem their either by the way) then dates a woman can be a lesbian.

    to me biologically its a male and a female in a relationship. Unless your partner is also biologically male, it makes no sense

  • I don't get it. He's a guy, yet he's a lesbian. How does that work?

  • @JohnsTheGuest Because it's not about biological make up, it's about gender identity. Even if "he" IS a dude, "he" may identify as a woman, and thus if she's attracted to other women, it makes her a lesbian. I know how weird it can sound unless you're in those shoes yourself, trust me.

  • @JohnsTheGuest Err...psychologically speaking, there are two factors used to define gender; gender identity and physical sex. In the case of GID individuals, the internal gender is the dominant side. For example; if ZK liked guys, she'd be straight because she has a mental view of herself as a woman. In short; they see themselves as women, so judge themselves by that measure. :3

  • @JohnsTheGuest Comedian Eddie Izzard once described himself as a male lesbian. By that he seems to be saying that he's a tranvestite and heterosexual (he dresses like a woman and he likes women). Perhaps it's the same thing here?

  • this is the only thing i hate about you. you can't seem to get it through your thick head. you like women. that does not make you a lesbian it makes you straight. i do not care what you define yourself as. you are a man. you have a dick,and no vagina,i do not care what you THINK you are because you are not. you maybe want to be a woman,but you are not,you might think you are one,but just putting on some lipstick does not make you a female.you are a guy. live with it.you are just a crossdresser..

  • @GGORRO I'd advise you to google the word "transgender". You can be male in sex (aka having a dick), and female in gender. Some transgendered people go through the process of surgery in order to match their sex with their gender. Some don't. Either way, your sexuality is stated in relation to your gender. If somebody's gender is female and they like other females only, then they would probably label themselves as "lesbian".

  • @Kimber2011 sex and gender are the same thing. you can not be male in sex and female in gender. a transgender is someone who gets surgery to become the opposite sex.ZJ isn't one. as mutch as he may want to be a woman he is not. he is straight not a lesbian.

  • @GGORRO "a transgender is someone who gets surgery to become the opposite sex." No. You're not transgendered because you get the surgery, you get the surgery because you're transgendered. Gender is a what you FEEL you are, sex is what's on your body. A definition of transgender is "Non-identification with, or non-presentation as, the sex (and assumed gender) one was assigned at birth." It does not have anything to do with surgery. It's how one presents themselves to others and/or identifies as.

  • @Kimber2011 well yes,but its bullshit. you have a dick,i don't care if you think you are a woman,you have a dick. you are male.

  • @GGORRO Well that's just your opinion, and you're clearly too deeply attached to your belief to change. A lot of people think homosexuality is "bullshit" ("they just haven't found the right guy/girl yet"; "they're just experimenting"; "they're just rebelling"), but it's pretty clear that being attracted to the same sex is a real thing. So good luck with your views. I think they're misinformed and ridiculous, but you're free to think them.

  • @Kimber2011 i think you are the one that is misinformed. i never stated homosexuality is bullshit,or fake or anything like that. i just said that you can't just put on some lipstick and magicaly turn into a girl.if you have a dick i don't care what you "think" you are (think means want but people are too stubborn to say it) male.

  • @GGORRO I never said you thought homosexuality is bullshit. I was using it as an example, to show that calling/thinking that something "bullshit" doesn't mean you are right or make it invalid.

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  • Transgender : of, relating to, or being a person (as a transsexual or transvestite) who identifies with or expresses a gender identity that differs from the one which corresponds to the person's sex at birth

    Kimber2011 is correct, according to Merriam-Webster.

  • As a bisexual, I experience almost all of those things you listed. Thank you. <3

  • GOD IS GOOD! GOD IS GREAT!

  • Goddam, you're awesome ZJ. This is exactly what I would have said!

  • The fact of the matter is, all this thing wants is attention, mommy probably didn't hug it enough when it was a kid.

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  • Its also very easy to think you have the right to draw conclusions with how others define themselves.

    I am a woman, and a lesbian, i was born in a female body. ZJ is a woman and a lesbian, she was born in a male body.

    If ZJ wakes up tomorrow and feels like a straight man, it is her god given right to call herself that.

    How would you feel like if suddenly everyone else called the shots with what you can feel and call youself?

  • @Dirtydirtyfag So if ZJ wakes up tomorrow and thinks he is a Yeti is he a Yeti ?

  • @Dirtydirtyfag "ZJ is a woman and a lesbian, she was born in a male body" haha, what? It still has a dick, so it isn't really a woman. Good try though, maybe next year.

  • @Dirtydirtyfag God given right? Isn't it clear that Zinnia doesn't believe in any gods based on ALL her videos about atheism lol? XD

  • Do you have another YouTube account, or another webshow elsewhere?

    I swear your voice sounds familiar.

  • I was under the impression that "gay" just meant homosexual and the word could be applied to both men and women. Have I been misinformed ?

  • You aren't gay or a lesbian.. You have a dick.. and you like women. Just because you dress as a woman does not label you as one. Women can't reproduce with women men can't reproduce with men.. you are a waste of space in this world. The only good thing about you people is that you keep the population down by not reproducing

  • There is still hope! Haah

  • genius

  • Wait, now you're a lesbian?

  • @MattitudeEra

    No, he's a dude who likes chicks. He just pretends to be a girl.

  • @pockeyandhentai I know that. I just got a little confused is all...

  • Thank you for correcting a view I held.

  • So true!!!

  • I like your intellect, spirit, and determination. For that I'll watch all your videos. I don't think it matters but I think your bi or straight, based on your sexual equipment. plus I like listening to you, so not likely your a women.... They usually drive me crazy after awhile ;) As I said though, it's a moot point, as long as you stay you, the world needs more people like you.

  • that was confusing

  • @John3285

    You must too much of a narrow minded of a man to understand that other people have feelings and your out word appearance is more then just the way you are dressed and it has an effect on your surroundings. You might be one of the misogynistic men she speaks of John.

  • @ttopperr I am not a mysogynist, and i resent being called one, im just a bit slow when it comes to understanding things like this, but after rewatching this video, i now understand and agree with a lot of the points it makes and I am NOT A MISOGYNIST, but maybe you are.

  • @John3285

    I may be, but I know I am not and it was totally clear to me and if you were confused the video you had a trace misogynistic tendency but as you said you had re-watched this video and now understand so your misogynistic tendencies are no more. So I stand corrected you are now a former misogynist John, way to go.

  • @ttopperr

    Wow, you've already labeled him as a misongynist? What a bitch. I guess sexism only goes one way, right? LOL.

  • @pockeyandhentai

    Well he did show misogynistic tendencies. Sexism does go both ways between the sexes but, to have androgynous hate you would hate the genderless and that is not an available option.

  • @ttopperr

    Are you dumb? People can hate anything and everything. Thats always an option.

    You completely misjudged this guy because of a couple of comments on the internet, calling him one of the most horrible things you can call a person... and you're still trying to justify it? If you have any decency as a human being, you would apologize to John3285.

  • @pockeyandhentai

    Not as dumb as you. If "People can hate anything and everything." as you say they can; then I can label him misogynistic if I want to. It is up to John to determine what my saying that really means anything to him.

  • @John3285 I am not a mysogynist, but I don't remember what the video is about, so I will rewatch it and then comment further

  • Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that ZJ will perform any mental gymnastics required to avoid calling himself straight? No offence, but it seems he's lost the plot. He went from gay man to lesbian transwoman in one go - it just seems very unlikely. Not that his sexuality or gender matters a great deal; he's still an intelligent person worth listening to.

  • @XionXi - I don't understand it.

  • @XionXi That's why I became a subscriber. I'm not always in the mood to listen to every topic read from the blog, but there's always another day or another topic. And ZJ puts together thoughts in a cogent manner, & spices it up a bit. ZJ doesn't strike me as a gay male (or a transgender lesbian); just a male with a little androgyny to him. But what do I know? I'm not in his mind or body. If she says she's a lesbian, "okay." I'll take ZJ (notice the neutrality) either way.

  • I can see why wemon are attracted to other wemon; wemon are beautiful, they smell wonderful & usually have soft skin. They are often kinder & have more manners then men. Also, they pay attention to details & are smarter then men. Maybe I'm biased though since I am a woman.

  • Wow there are a whole lot of complete scumbags in these comments.

  • ZJ, I agree with you on most things, but you were born a man and haven't even gotten a sex change, so you aren't a lesbian. I'm not sure if transexual people should be considered men or women, but I definitely know that someone with a penis is a man, and therefore can't be a lesbian.

  • all striaght men are secret lesbians , mmmmmm lesbians

  • Carpet muncher, dykes, fruit gushers, etc. How does a gay man know more slurs against lesbians? lol bigots fail xD

  • are you...wearing a private school uniform?

  • No, i am not high, when im high im still the same, i just laugh a lot. I dont care if he is gay and/or has a penis. He is beautiful, has a right to be who he wants to be, youre just embaressed probably because you thought he was hot then found out he ia a man. Well, you know what? he is hot, i find hik extremely attractive, you know why? He has a great personality, he is himself, and very unique! Thats why i find him attractive! Got a problem say it to my face. Dont troll me or anyone on the in

  • This is the wierdest PSA I've ever seen.

  • you ain't gay your just fucked up in the head

  • Say hi to your cats for me

  • Even if one's sexual orientation were a choice, so is one's religion and political affiliation. I would never ridicule or dehumanise Buddhists or Rent-is-Too-D*m-High-ists {New York's Statewide election 2010} simply for those choices.

  • your a straight faggot... oxymoron?? yea. seems like thr only way someine could be as gay as u is through a paradix.. didi say dix? yea. in reference to the ones yuo suck asshol

  • Nice adam's apple.

  • beautiful hair. would love to cum in it

  • Groce

  • lol this bitch is a fucking robot... i'd kill myself if I had that little zest for life.

  • OP is a phaggot

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  • U gay brah? Ya u gay

  • lol misc up in dis bish

    

  • fuk u homo

  • U ugly annoying transexual phaggot. Shut Ur mouth

  • Ur annoying as fuck cuzzzzz.stfuuuuu

    Misc In this

  • So if you have a penis and fuck women all the time, but you dress up in girly clothes and wear make-up, that makes you a lesbian?

  • @ThePaxilrose

    What natsume means is that there is indeed significant scientific evidence to show that the brains of transsexual women are structured more similarly to that of biological women than that of men.

  • @ThePaxilrose

    What a typical ignorant reaction by trying to change the subject.

    but why should i even bother?

    Obviously, you celebrate your ignorance so you can't or wont allow yourself to understand the facts :)

  • how the hell are you lesbian? you are a guy biologically and you try to make yourself look like a woman, yet you're attracted to women? wtf is the point of acting like a girl then?

  • @phantonfan

    They ruined nothing.

    Bisexuality itself is not a choice, just hetero and homosexuality are not choices. Sexual orientation is not a choice.

    Bisexuality is being sexually/romantically oriented toward both sexes. That is not a choice. Choice may play some role for the bisexual person regarding the gender of a life partner. But educate yourself, please. The fact that bisexuality allows one to be attracted to both genders in no means that bisexuality itself is a "choice."

  • It's amazing how the invective (in reality fear, hatred, suppresed desire, self-hatred disguised as meaness/evil) emanate from those who have such non-lives that they must spew from their mouths, the smelly shit that flows from their brains!!!-One would think(which is difficult for them in the first place!!!) that they wouldn't want to be found dead viewing something that offends their delicate sensibilities!!!-krw

  • wait so you like women? then your strait.....a strait guy who crossdresses cuz lets face it youll never be a woman

  • If you check the "related videos", there is further evidence of just how correct ZJ is in this video; half of the entries are about "hot lesbian sex", or "girls making out". Quite depressing, actually.

  • @ThePaxilrose Don't be a moron, There is valid scientific research that validates the existence of Transgenderd people :).... People should look up Transgender/Gender ambiguity before they type Ignorant shit.

  • @StewieSwan

    Then how do you explain the millions of people born with "male and female" traits? The similarity between a women's brain and a transgender(born male) women's brain?

    There are many people in this world who may appear to be one sex but identify with the opposite or both sexes. The science doesn't lie you better get your facts straight.

  • A transvestite lesbian that sounds like an old gay man... What.

  • @Electronitron

    Did that accomplish anything for ya?

  • Oh and by the way I love all the points you made in the video though. I love the things you said about how people are rude and hateful towards lesbians in such a different way than gay men. And how bad the misogyny is. Very insightful and interesting and disheartening.

  • Yeah I am confused too. I love your videos and philosophical views, but I had been assuming, I thought after watching videos of yours that mentioned it, that you were a gay man who was choosing to bend the gender norms and dress like a female. You said you didn't care whether we called you a he or a she, yet you said somewhere else (I thought) that you were a gay man, interested in men. But then you made a video called "Zinnia reads her comments" and it seemed like you wanted to go by "her"...?

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  • You're not a lesbian!!! You're a guy goddamnit!! Look at ZJ's earlier videos, they clearly show your a guy, because you even said it! Also, you said your name was Zack!

  • Amy Farrah Fowler

  • So many negative comments on this one because of semantics... I will personally update Urban Dictionary and bring peace to the land!

  • WOW! I'm gay and i WONDER HOW CAN YOU BE LESBIAN IF YOU ARE A MAN? - just wondering Love you and your videos btw. baby :)

  • 2:08 they do the same thing with gay men(supposedly, the guys who are gay only do it because theyll never find a girl)

  • Wait whoa whoa whoa wait...

    You were born a biological male, I know that from your earlier videos. And I distinctly remember you saying sometime something about "bringing a guy home" or something. And you started off your Trans Ignorance vid by saying "I am not transgendered"

    WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU?

  • @randomcollision6 Im confused too :/

    For one thing lesbians are usually exclusively attracted to women whereas you, im assuming, are still very much attracted to men. And lesbians are either biologically women, or at least identify as women.

    So does this mean Heather is no longer a lesbian, but rather gay? Why not just go with 'open-minded' instead of some misleading label like 'lesbian'.

  • ZJ you are so right about why people are horrified at male on male sex but just dismissive about female on female sex. A lot of homophobia really does just stem from sexism.

  • You talk about the fetishization of lesbians... but what about yaoi fangirls? Goes both ways, dude.

    I love your videos and agree with you on about 95% of what you talk about, btw =P

  • you are not a chick fuck tard you can't be a lesbian if you were born with a dick...god you're stupid

  • You're a lesbian..? You sound and look like a dude. Do you have a dick, or did you get that shit cut off. If you haven't, you're straight. If it's now a vag, you're a lesbian. Clarify this so everyone's heads don't blow up. You sound like a fucking retard, honestly.

  • You are very pretty zinnia. XD

  • @undeadgirl18 lol (insert sarcasm here)

  • @xB1IIyx that wasnt sarcasm, he is a lot better looking then chicks these days, i give him credit. he looks real, not fake...and his skin is perfect....and his hair is amazing , its not all bought from a store like these 10 cent whores do these days

  • @undeadgirl18 zinnia has a penis. sounds and looks like a man...are you high?

  • @xB1IIyx learn2transgendered derp

  • wait hold up. THIS GUY we're watching no claims to be a lesbian which mean SHE likes women. BUT, can someone explain to me how a man, who thinks he's a female who likes women can be a lesbian? why didn't you just stay a man and be attracted to women? LMAO OMFG

  • @juiceyfruit379 Wow, you're an idiot. Captain Obvious, here, just checking in.

  • @kingthamus Oh wow, i can just hear your squealing little voice crack when you say that. LOL FUCKING GEEK

  • @juiceyfruit379 Okay, so you're imaginative, but...still an idiot.

  • damn rug munchers! lol jk jk I love your vids

  • lol shes a lesbian when she had a sex change ??

  • he's not a lesbian, he's a hetero-sexual cross dresser this is all.

  • @Zegane Guy. He's said in the past that if you thought he was a lesbian, you'd be surprised when you try to mutilate his genitals. He's also stated that he isn't trans. He also said that he doesn't care whether he's called a guy or a girl, so I'm pretty sure he's just taking the "lesbian" label to make a point. If not, I'm confused.

  • Thanks for the clarification.

  • I simply thought you were a man due to your voice, thanks for the clarification.

  • Why was this not in my sub box? Good thing I was taking a look at my subscriptions, otherwise I might have missed this video.

  • fail trolls fail, rofl

  • Man. I find this hard to fap to.

  • If you're having trouble sleeping, put this video on. You'll be out within 30 seconds. 

  • Since this video is on the proper way to insult lesbians, do I win if I use the phrase "HAHAHAHA, THAT LESBIAN HAS A PENIS!"?

    Not trolling, just curious :P

  • I got the shivers watching this... I'm guessing that means I'm scared...

  • "...they might see lesbians as something to be fetishized, and reduced to a fantasy of straight men."

    *guiltily* uhh...I have no idea what you mean. *surreptitiously closes the window of gratuitous lesbian porn.* Down with bigots and stuff!

  • But, if you're a dude, wouldn't that just make you straight? No offense intended.

  • Even if ZJ were a 'straight' male human, that, in no way, would prevent him from understanding, and empathizing with, the plight of same-sex couples.

  • u just keep talkin an talkin but you forgot a major point. you cant be a lesbian if you are a dude and judging by your adams apple you probably have a dick or you already chopped it off because you were too stupid to use it.

  • Considering that sexuality according to the APA is seen as a continuum and that gender is a matter of social definition one should expect some confusion from the ignorant masses; but them being hateful is unacceptable.

  • @versasrev The APA quit being a scientific body and has been a political body on homosexuality since 1973 . When you quit using science to make decisions you cease to be scientific . Common sense tells you a man with a penis is not a woman .

  • @hanksnow82 You need to understand the difference between the terms male/female and man/woman. When you've established the correct understanding you will see that what you are claiming as an impossibility, is in fact very possible. Besides this, the construct for an individuals sex is set within the brain and is not reversible. If a person truly sees themselves as the opposite sex (and not gender) as in the case of transsexuals, there is nothing that can change this (medically proven).

  • @versasrev You need to understand that because you wake up one day and call yourself a woman that does not make you a woman anymore then deciding one day you're a martian . Please cite this (medically proven) study .

  • @versasrev

    that we come a long way as a society is irrelevant this is one of the base insticts that we still have since we were cave men and cave women and even before that, and its not going anywhere till we get a third option i.e sex robots or sex virtual reality or other crap that humans could create. even women talk about men in that way its not just guys who objectify the opposite sex.

  • @Frandysworld I think, with adequate research, you will come to understand the point of view being expressed and ultimately agree with it. I do not believe this will be a quick journey, but I believe it will happen. May knowledge enlighten you.

  • @hanksnow82 Oh I see you're attempting to perpetuate the arguement that APA isn't legitimate because it affirmed homosexuality. Except you don't cite anything scientific that would refute the APA. So you have no legitimate basis to claim the APA is not a scientific body.