Losing my fear forever -- Kelbajar June 6, 1993

[Varangian1915]

I cannot wait to move to artsakh and defend our land.

[Zohrub]

 Вот так, хачынызы кунем!!!!

[aramanoogian]

What is a "white tshirt kids"? If you mean gang member, that was not me. I grew up in Los Angeles.

As for what happened in Khodjali and the 613 civilians, there is some question as to who was behind that and the reason it happened as it did. If you ask me, the Azeris have much more to blame than the Armenians as to how it turned out. In fact there are Azeri sources that say that it was a political move by Baku to help to dethrown the president at the time.

[atom73101]

aramanoogian, where did you grow up. you're porbably one of those white tshirt kids.. i grew up in the soviet union. Lived in Baku but spent the summers in Armenia (near Stepanavan, NOT Stepanakert). Incidentally that's where I learned that Armenians hated Azeris... little kids called us 'Turkeren'... and while in 1988 azeris did not hate armenians, after Khodjali many do.. Hate generates hate, and for a nation with ancient history you armenians are showing no signs of maturity

[rp12121]

@atom73101 in 1988 your people raped and brutally murdered Armenians in Sumgait. then in 1988 your people celebrated (!) when the devastating earthquake in Armenia happened (read general Lebed memoirs about those days) then your people raped in murdered Armenians in Baku. then your people fired 'Grad' multiple rocket launchers and dropped 500 kg bombs on civilians in Stepanakert. well, you reaped what you sow.

[atom73101]

aramanoogian, where did you grow up. you're porbably one of those white tshirt kids.. i grew up in the soviet union. Lived in Baku but spent the summers in Armenia (near Stepanavan, NOT Stepanakert). Incidentally that's where I learned that Armenians hated Azeris... little kids called us 'Turkeren'... and while in 1988 azeris did not hate armenians, after Khodjali many do... 613 civilians. shame on you for even being proud of this.

[TuxBoy444]

hey turk fuckers, try to take this land again, and you all will be dead, again! armenia forever! fuck turk!

[kozzmozz777]

GOOD armenias is DEAD armenias !!!!

You armenians don't even know what KARABAKH means because it is Azeri word. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!

You can be reassure we will come back soon ;) And we are going fucking your dirty race of shit !!!

Karabakh belongs to AZERBAIJAN and it will always be, as is our motherland for forever !

[Kavkazec]

@kozzmozz777 gnaaaaaaa kliresss ceccesss mamaaiit hett handerccc kunemmm dzer putankaa azgee....all of you suckers are like a chicken!!!! we are WARRIORSSS YOPU BITCH MOTHERFUCKER...we showed you how 3 milion Armenian fucked ur mamas pussy of 30 milion azeri donkeyss...FORZAAA ARMENIAAAA FUCK THAT BAKINSKI ASSES...THEY ARE ALL OF THEM BITCHESSSS...God bless THE HOLY NATION ARMENIAAA

[joejoe4812]

@kozzmozz777 YOU DONKEYS WILL BE BLOWN AWAY AGAIN.

[joejoe4812]

@kozzmozz777 YOU TURKISH WHORES WILL BE BLOWN AWAY TO PIECES NEXT TIME. YOU DONKEYS WILL BE FUCKED IN YOU WHOREHOUSES NEXT TIME.

[joejoe4812]

@kozzmozz777 we'll fuck in in baku next time.

[joejoe4812]

@kozzmozz777 The Turks are a human cancer, a creeping agony in the flesh of the lands which they misgovern, rotting every fibre of life ... I am glad that the Turk is to be called to a final account for his long record of infamy against humanity."

-David Lloyd George, 1914 (British Statesman and Prime Minister)

[RBBBjan]

@kozzmozz777 ok, lets see when that will happen, but crying and doing the chicken dance on the battlefield is not going to help you in winning the war.

[armhumanbeing]

We Armenians are BLESSED nation

GOD loves us

we love HIM

ARMENIANS are BLOOD BROTHERS

BLOOD is not water

I love all the Armenians

[Kavkazec]

@armhumanbeing Apres enger jan...etencel ka u mishtel kelni hle mekke tox porcvi merr sahmanere xaxti!!! Astevac im Azgi hett!!!

[turbobro9]

It's cool seeing this video again, this is one of the first pieces of video I ever saw from Karabakh back when youtube just came out 3 years ago. Ever since, thousands of karabakh videos have come out with Armenians and Azeris feuding, these flame wars have taken a good chunck of my time these past 3 years.

[ARMENOCIDE]

JAN KARABAKH@ mern e.

[vikingohannes]

looks like my trip up the mountains of idaho to my friend's summer place in the pahsimeroi hills.

[EtHayTghan]

is it a good idea to wear white t shirts there? I mean no sniper risks? Thank you for posting this video by the way.

[vahagnantonyan]

i served in kelbajar from 2001-2003 in CHOPRLU, yeah the roads are messed up over there, they better hwen i served, but still, you have to be a skilled adn experianced driver, and you have to be familiar with those roads leading to kelbajar, other wise you might go on a bomb road. i remember those days. thanks for putting this video up.

[arakhachatran]

Heroic Armenian people. We all know what we went through!!! But those day were indeed heroical. You see women are even there helping our troops

[KakCaxapok]

Fuck armenia!

[Montinski]

what was that? mine or the car crash?

[jeyranbatan1]

Do you see my point? That's not a good reason to start a war and end lives... You should be sorry for what you did; started a war for more land where you could have lived peacefully anyway. Now nobody has a life in those lands, and people are hurt immensely on both sides.

[aramanoogian]

As for us being able to live in peace, you really are brainwashed and don't have a clue what was going on during the Soviet and how your people were at that time and right after the fall. Read the real history and then draw your conclusions.

[jeyranbatan1]

Well, you tell me how our people were during the Soviets and after its fall. You tell me what was going on at that time... What are you going to tell me anyway? How you just wanted to take advantage of the loose system and get more land? That is the real history.

[Absurdistian]

History, shmistory. Armenians have lost twice as much land than the Azeris in their history and now we take what is rightfully ours and get patronized for it? Screw you.

After all the belligerent comments made by Azeris (including their politicians), I think Armenia should recognize Artsakh and incorporate it as a province.

[joejoe4812]

@jeyranbatan1 fuckoff azeri donkey.

[jeyranbatan1]

On top of that, who even cares if you had those lands some 2000 years ago, or somebody else did. Only 400 years ago native indians inhabited the current US territory, only 500 years ago Istanbul used to be ruled by greeks.

[aramanoogian]

If your okay with the Americans keeping the land from the Indians that they took by force, then you should be okay with the Armenians keeping what they took by force. This is why they call it a war.

[jeyranbatan1]

I am not talking about keeping the land, I am talking about starting the war. I don't know about indians, but we're not going to let you keep the land you occupied only 13 years ago. I am not okay with anyone taking anyone else's land by force. And I am not okay with Armenians killing innocent people to get more land. That's messed up. And that's what I was saying. You should be ashamed for doing exactly this.

[aramanoogian]

So your also saying that the American Indians were not innocent people? They too deserve their land to be returned to them. But nonetheless, what you are saying and what is the reality don't match up. The land we took back was taken from us less than 100 years ago and we were able to take it back.

[thunderizyelloe]

difference is indians were not organized in making a strong centalized society. They tried fighting back even with european forces but could not reagin thier land back. We have the power to fight a war and regain OUR land back. I do see your point though

[hovuli]

you got your facts wrong. non of what you say other than another war will happen. in which case you will be the loser and we will recover tour historic land you are holding still.

[armotennispro]

@jeyranbatan1 are you having illusions? ok we need getashen back, naxchevan back and you can have kelbajar, deal?

[gasper47]

@jeyranbatan1 how can u blame us for the kharapagh war. everyone can have their opinions, and see 2 sides to some issues, but this is crystal clear. it was your pograms, and armenians being massacred in the streets and in their homes that led to war. and why were they massacred? for exercising democracy and VOTING in a referendum, after the fal of ussr. being 90% armenian population, natururally they voted to unite with the newly independant armenia.

[gasper47]

@jeyranbatan1 (prt2) your army and people were killing armenian civilians. everyone knows about baku, kirovabad, sumgait. these happened FIRST! and it was years until armenias army joined in the war. youve heard of ter-petrossyan, the coward president that oppsed war trading innocent armenian lives for greed. until then the war was being fought by first the sons of karapagh, farmers, shepheards with hunting rifles. then the ARF and diasporan fedayis....its very clear who STARTED the war.

[joejoe4812]

@jeyranbatan1 THEN IT'S ok For Armenians PERSIANS TALYSH LEZGIN RUSSIANS OR ANYONE ELSE to take over any part of SO CALLED Azerbaijan by force if they can. greet that's what we are all looking for now.

[joejoe4812]

@jeyranbatan1 you? turkish donkey? yes?

[KirkKirkorian]

@joejoe4812 i think that piece of shit is not turkish its an azeri shit :)))) anyways they both are shit but in different plates:))))

TURKS ARE MISTAKE OF HUMANITY ...TURKS ARE GENOCIDEMAKER NATION....

[Elik010]

@KirkKirkorian Armenians are motherfuckers,armenian girls loves our penis....

[jeyranbatan1]

I often wonder, don't you armenians ever feel ashamed for wreaking a war for no good reason? And don't you give me that "those lands belonged to us" line again. We all know they didn't, that's totally bullcrap; you have been brainwashed.

[aramanoogian]

I have to agree that this will not be settled here on YouTube or the way things are going with talks of the governments of Armenia and Azerbaijan anytime soon. War is not the answer, but if it does errupt, there will be no winner and many lives will be lost. As for shutting up and not talking about it, that is going to have to be up to the people posting comments.

[paxlava]

what exactly happened. did u guys run over a mine or somehting?

[Storm7rooper]

This is not yet over, I suggest you all shut up and wait for another war to errupt, and it will figure it all out for us... Arguing about this on youtube is not going to make anyone change their opinions, and definately wont settle the dispute.

[xTheWarlordx]

Karabakh will be recognized soon as armenian territory, and wasnt Nachichevan armenian territory too? we should claim it cuz nachichevan was 100% armenian land, armenians live there since 2000 years, the ones who dont beling there are the azeris who came from Uzbekistan/turkmenistan that regions and sized our lands. go learn history u fool

[HAYKAKANMAN]

ARAMANOOGIAN AND WARLORD RIGHT ON!!

[aramanoogian]

Maps that the CIA puts out that support a Stalinist point of view mean nothing to me. You may want to take a look at the video clips I have posted of Monte Melkonian, the commander of the Martuni region during the war we liberated our lands that Stalin handed over to Azerbaijan.

Also it may be of interest to read the open letter from the intellects of Azerbaijan to us. http://aramanoogian.blogspot.c­om/2006/07/open-letter-to-arme­nian-people-of.html

[aramanoogian]

I guess you have some really messed up history books that they teach you from.  Your government is filling your head with PROPOGANDA.

The reality is that today Kelbajar is in our hand as it once was 100 years ago. I hate to see a war break out again, but if it does, mark my words, you will not win it back and could even lose more land that once belonged to us.

[wolfeheart]

Which map you are talking about? :) I don't look at your maps :)

Look at international maps, and you will se that despite armenia invaded Karabakh, those maps show reality. Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan, it was, and it will be. Justice will take its place soon!

And not just Karabakh, all parts of present Armenia, belonged to Azerbaijan. Even Irarava (you call Yerevan)is an historical city of Azerbaijani Turks. You were given it in 1828, by fucked russians.

[wolfeheart]

Look at this international site, and search Azerbaijan, if you wanna to see the map https://www.cia.gov/cia/public­ations/factbook/geos/aj.html

[wolfeheart]

It belongs to Azerbaijan. Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan!

[aramanoogian]

I don't know the last time you looked at a map, but Azerbaijan lost it because their evil leaders tryed to wipe us out and we stood our ground and took. If it belonged to Azerbiajan, you should know before they took control over it, it belonged to us in the first place.

[Kriegersich]

don't be an idiot. Arstakh (NOT karabakh) it's ARMENIAN lands. Grab a History book lol!!

[zipmanwwwi]

aram did you film this ?????????

[aramanoogian]

Yes I did. Oh, and it's Ara.

[jeepday]

did good keeping the camera going at the accident