I've never shot a civilian but i had a buddy who did by accident. when your going through a city with expected hostiles everyone's a possible target. you're jumpy, the lady raised a stick to point at something and she was shot. civilian casualties are a part of war, it happens. i've never known anyone who wanted to kill much less a civilian, i've served with lots of men too.
for the record, I have a beautiful flag, in a maple case, with all of my medals and badges. It collects dust in my closet. I also have my grandfather's flag with all of his medals and some day I will have my father's flag. I would gladly take another person's life to ensure your freedom and the freedom of this slanderous song.
Not all recruiters are fork tongued serpents as you say. All the revruiters I have seen tell me the dangers of what could happen to me before they even get into the benifits. I wonder if you even have the courage to stand up to someone that threatens this country's people.
iv talked 2 recruiters i know how they are and yes i would have the courage
bottom line the muslim world with their islamic goverments are bound 2 conflict with the west and our christian roots and our capitalist economy and culture
if we are gonna fight a war for these reasons then say it dont bullshit the world and say WOMP this and al queda this
if this war was an honest one id gladly fight and have been considering it
why does it matter its an amazing songs, he has an amazing voice, and its about inhumane shit thats done to people who don't or do deserve it but not as bad as they give it to them. Anyways its an amazing song and i dont think u need to argue about it
The video is based on a specificity, not exclusively what the song means. Those who say the actions described in this song are cruel have never seen war: this is just how it is. It doesn't mean any one military is cruel for it, war is ruthless, if it were humane it wouldn't exist It's about all the things that soldiers aren't necessarily proud of but do nonetheless because that's what is required, hero of war is not a word it's what other people see, but not all of them see themselves as.
hard-ache? what the heck is that. This song highlights the activities of a few criminals. This song doesnt tell the story of a hero, it tells the story of a man that when given the opportunity to do the right thing-he chose to join in. The song should not be confused with Heroes of War, but rather thugs of war, and the artist should be ashamed for disgracing the 99.9999% of the US men and women who "do the right thing" for our country all the time, every time.
Trust me when I say I get it. I am a literary genius plus I have a comprehensive understanding as to why we capture these terrorist scum in the dark of night.
I can interpret line for line what the song actually says regardless of the intent, justification, or conversations that the song writer had with actual soldiers.
If these events really happened, I hope that some day the soldiers who brought these stories together to the artist reports it and explains what happened appropriately.
lol ok mr genius if ur so smart why does the theme of this song seem 2 escape u
it is basically about how many young soldiers inlist nieve of wat they are going 2 be made 2 do
many people arent prepared enough and live the rest of their lives with regret for wat they did even when they are told it was for the right and even though they tell themselves it was justified it still fucks with ur head
I stopped reading your reply after "if ur so." You are as much of a disgrace to your generation as "Rise Against" is. Have a nice life, you make as much sense as the song. If soldiers really took time to send in letters about their activities in a war zone, then publish them at the "Official Web site." Otherwise the song is BS, the band is BS, and this conversation is over. For the record, I have dealt with PTSD, if this is true, then the soldiers need to contact the authorities and seek help-BS
this song makes a lot of sense u make no sense its like u have a mental block
lol if its not on the official web site i guess talking 2 a soldier face 2 face and hearing it from the horses mouth isnt good enough ay on the info privided by some official goverment web site is reliable lol ok u fuckin drone wat ever dude
i suggest u watch a movie call body of war its a documentary that fallows the life of a iraqi war vet
i agree with jashfa 's comment and for all you idiots that think that our armed forces arent heros, you should be arrested they fight for what we take for granted everyday it may be true were there for the wrong reasons god fucking sake dont hold it aginst the men and women that fight for what we stand for. our armed forces are bigger heros than you'll be i dont see you fighting for what we stand for so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND RESPECT OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OVER SEAS RIGHT NOW
damn straight. im canadian and i respect what Marines and US Army soldiers do everyday, i someday plan to join the Canadian forces myself also to fight for what i think is right and for my country.
calm down, and in my mind i dont exactly call many people heroes, like what about the people that send the troops out there, they arent risking threer own lives they are risking others, so when u see those military planes take off, think about all the inisant people about to be killed, and how people from the secretary of defense are sending them to there most likely death bed, for what oil in iraq and peace in pakistan
I actually kind of like the upside down flag in the video, I think it represents how the American values are lost in times of war. Thats not neccessarily a bad thing, just an ironic thing. A soldier surrenders his liberty in order to defend it, faces moral danger in order to protect morality, its a neccessary contradiction, and in a way the upside down flag represents that, rather than being disrespectful.
Dude you may be right and wrong. and wrong your friends might of survived and whats your age just cuz they survived deosnt meen you will hell you cold die on the first day. and why did you watch this video anyways you wanted to get a head sart and make somwhone piss in your hands it true they do do that
songs lik this remind me to respect and be proud of our soldiers. I believe there r other ways to solve problems but for now this is how its done. and they r brave and fightin to protect me, u, the people they lov, and for there country. i think its good to remember that
If you think that is so fun, why dont you roll up in the army and go kill your self for your country? I think the war is not so fun at my eyes, there is much more solution to fix the problem without guns or stuff like that.
... has it occured to any of you that perhaps this is about all of the sides that are fighting in the current war? and do you mean to say he shouldn't feel bad for shooting down an innocent lady trying to surrender? Do you honestly mean to say he shouldn't feel bad for making innocent children scream and cry? odn't you think soldiers from both sides feel that way? he just did it from the american side because it's familiar to us...
Obviously written by an idiot who knows nothing about war he is unexperienced who has never been in the army. This song sympathizes with terrorists who were shooting at Americans. Those are the ones who have killed over 3000 American soldiers and wounding plenty more. If this band doesnt like their country than they should move. Complaining how Americans treat Prisoners of War but do they not remember Daniel Pearl? The American journalist who was decapitated by the same people theyre siding with
dude watch an interview with rise against. they wrote this song BASED on letters written by soldiers fighting in the war. try doing a little research before you make a comment like that you asshole.
dude what are you talking about?, you probley dont get what this song means, and treating a P.O.W like hes nothing isnt peace, "American Soldiers" are they to end the war and make peace SUPPOSIDLY but no they arent makeing peace, their causeing more of a shit storm then their already was, they wanted Osama, they got him and hung him, why the fuck are they there? its not about talibans and americans being killed, its their fault americans are being killed because they sent them their.
.......I seriously feel bad for you if you believe that the United States caught Osama Bin Laden, and hung him....... Sadam was the one who got killed.........By Iraqi's. Not Americans.... The war started about Osama and turned into WMD's, not the other way around........
this war is about Oil not terrorists, it started about WMD's turned to osama, now their still there, why? oil. they america wants oil and their continueing a shitty war for it, if you dont see that and you think that treating POWs not like civilians, but like nothing, then you are a terrorist. happy? now you can comment back and bitch all you want but its not going to bother me, because i beleive in peace and you like war so we are diffrent by what i read from your comment.
seriously? you are a fucking idiot this has nothing to do with which side you are on u closeminded fuck. This song is about the horror's of war on both sides. In no circumstance is treatinga POW like that ok on eitherside. This song does not sympathize with the terrorists either u moron truly the song is telling the story of a naive guy goin 2 war and killing people and saving ppl they are fighting and saving lifes but at the cost of other lives seriously think b4 u post stupid shit like this.
Hmm...You're right, cutting off reporters heads is much better. Shouldn't someone like yourself, with English as a first language have much better grammar?
I agree with you Jashfa great song, makes me proud to know brave soldiers serving right now.
The only thing that I thought was wrong was at 2:32 it shows the American flag upside down which is probably the left wing directors way of subtly disrespecting someone of something with respect to the states.
All you people that say this song is "realistic" how do you know if its realistic or not? ..... the Media? ....
SgtJoelC 2 years ago
look at ur comment u made 2 weeks ago
u just confirmed it
and other than your testimony i spoken with many soldiers who have shared their stories
MADmentality 2 years ago
fuck off u pointless douche u arent worth shit
MADmentality 2 years ago
I've never shot a civilian but i had a buddy who did by accident. when your going through a city with expected hostiles everyone's a possible target. you're jumpy, the lady raised a stick to point at something and she was shot. civilian casualties are a part of war, it happens. i've never known anyone who wanted to kill much less a civilian, i've served with lots of men too.
Sgt.Cawthon
1st Mar Div
2nd Reg
1st Bat
U.S.M.C
SgtJoelC 2 years ago 2
blessed that your alive.
forevercuz 2 years ago
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just love this song. its so meaningfull. and you have right there enseeb. hope you will join the army (if you really want it)
Chaosimable 2 years ago
for the record, I have a beautiful flag, in a maple case, with all of my medals and badges. It collects dust in my closet. I also have my grandfather's flag with all of his medals and some day I will have my father's flag. I would gladly take another person's life to ensure your freedom and the freedom of this slanderous song.
zamoskys 2 years ago
I guess its all about perspective.
TeeFlick 2 years ago
your a douche this song isnt slanderous its realistic
gets rid of the sugar coating and romanticism that these fork tongued serpent recruiters sell 2 these naive young men and women
MADmentality 2 years ago
Not all recruiters are fork tongued serpents as you say. All the revruiters I have seen tell me the dangers of what could happen to me before they even get into the benifits. I wonder if you even have the courage to stand up to someone that threatens this country's people.
krunk28 2 years ago
iv talked 2 recruiters i know how they are and yes i would have the courage
bottom line the muslim world with their islamic goverments are bound 2 conflict with the west and our christian roots and our capitalist economy and culture
if we are gonna fight a war for these reasons then say it dont bullshit the world and say WOMP this and al queda this
if this war was an honest one id gladly fight and have been considering it
MADmentality 2 years ago
I am proud of your grandfather, father and you. Soon I will be an Infantry soldier in the U.S. Army.
krunk28 2 years ago
why does it matter its an amazing songs, he has an amazing voice, and its about inhumane shit thats done to people who don't or do deserve it but not as bad as they give it to them. Anyways its an amazing song and i dont think u need to argue about it
enseeb 2 years ago
The video is based on a specificity, not exclusively what the song means. Those who say the actions described in this song are cruel have never seen war: this is just how it is. It doesn't mean any one military is cruel for it, war is ruthless, if it were humane it wouldn't exist It's about all the things that soldiers aren't necessarily proud of but do nonetheless because that's what is required, hero of war is not a word it's what other people see, but not all of them see themselves as.
rachelledev 2 years ago
hard-ache? what the heck is that. This song highlights the activities of a few criminals. This song doesnt tell the story of a hero, it tells the story of a man that when given the opportunity to do the right thing-he chose to join in. The song should not be confused with Heroes of War, but rather thugs of war, and the artist should be ashamed for disgracing the 99.9999% of the US men and women who "do the right thing" for our country all the time, every time.
zamoskys 2 years ago
it briefly highlights a specific incident
but thats not wat this song is really about
i doubt after that part u were able 2 absorb wat this songs about
if u could have maybe u would have an appreciation for this song cuz it is one of the best about war
MADmentality 2 years ago
Trust me when I say I get it. I am a literary genius plus I have a comprehensive understanding as to why we capture these terrorist scum in the dark of night.
I can interpret line for line what the song actually says regardless of the intent, justification, or conversations that the song writer had with actual soldiers.
If these events really happened, I hope that some day the soldiers who brought these stories together to the artist reports it and explains what happened appropriately.
zamoskys 2 years ago
lol ok mr genius if ur so smart why does the theme of this song seem 2 escape u
it is basically about how many young soldiers inlist nieve of wat they are going 2 be made 2 do
many people arent prepared enough and live the rest of their lives with regret for wat they did even when they are told it was for the right and even though they tell themselves it was justified it still fucks with ur head
PTSD shell shock u know shit like that
MADmentality 2 years ago
I stopped reading your reply after "if ur so." You are as much of a disgrace to your generation as "Rise Against" is. Have a nice life, you make as much sense as the song. If soldiers really took time to send in letters about their activities in a war zone, then publish them at the "Official Web site." Otherwise the song is BS, the band is BS, and this conversation is over. For the record, I have dealt with PTSD, if this is true, then the soldiers need to contact the authorities and seek help-BS
zamoskys 2 years ago
lol ur a real peice of work
this song makes a lot of sense u make no sense its like u have a mental block
lol if its not on the official web site i guess talking 2 a soldier face 2 face and hearing it from the horses mouth isnt good enough ay on the info privided by some official goverment web site is reliable lol ok u fuckin drone wat ever dude
i suggest u watch a movie call body of war its a documentary that fallows the life of a iraqi war vet
MADmentality 2 years ago
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MPR456 2 years ago
i agree with jashfa 's comment and for all you idiots that think that our armed forces arent heros, you should be arrested they fight for what we take for granted everyday it may be true were there for the wrong reasons god fucking sake dont hold it aginst the men and women that fight for what we stand for. our armed forces are bigger heros than you'll be i dont see you fighting for what we stand for so SHUT THE FUCK UP AND RESPECT OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OVER SEAS RIGHT NOW
MPR456 2 years ago
damn straight. im canadian and i respect what Marines and US Army soldiers do everyday, i someday plan to join the Canadian forces myself also to fight for what i think is right and for my country.
Hydro022 2 years ago
im canadian to, but im 14 right now so in a couple years i hope to join the army
enseeb 2 years ago
really? tell me why...
TeeFlick 2 years ago
lol wat do we stand for??
do we stand for invasion, bombing civilians, imposing democracy ??
the soldiers dont do me any favors sadly
as this song so eloquently points out soldiers are victims of their own glamorized perspective on war and wat it is 2 be honorable and heroic
anyone who goes 2 iraq with hopes of being a hero will be disapointed
MADmentality 2 years ago
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rachelledev 2 years ago
calm down, and in my mind i dont exactly call many people heroes, like what about the people that send the troops out there, they arent risking threer own lives they are risking others, so when u see those military planes take off, think about all the inisant people about to be killed, and how people from the secretary of defense are sending them to there most likely death bed, for what oil in iraq and peace in pakistan
enseeb 2 years ago
I actually kind of like the upside down flag in the video, I think it represents how the American values are lost in times of war. Thats not neccessarily a bad thing, just an ironic thing. A soldier surrenders his liberty in order to defend it, faces moral danger in order to protect morality, its a neccessary contradiction, and in a way the upside down flag represents that, rather than being disrespectful.
farstriker4 2 years ago
Flying your nation's flag upside down is the international symbol of distress, could be meant to show that.
nowtelsematters 2 years ago
for once someone who makes a point to end all the rambleing idiots.
Hydro022 2 years ago
Dude you may be right and wrong. and wrong your friends might of survived and whats your age just cuz they survived deosnt meen you will hell you cold die on the first day. and why did you watch this video anyways you wanted to get a head sart and make somwhone piss in your hands it true they do do that
NJVBFR 2 years ago
songs lik this remind me to respect and be proud of our soldiers. I believe there r other ways to solve problems but for now this is how its done. and they r brave and fightin to protect me, u, the people they lov, and for there country. i think its good to remember that
Puchida2007 2 years ago
If you think that is so fun, why dont you roll up in the army and go kill your self for your country? I think the war is not so fun at my eyes, there is much more solution to fix the problem without guns or stuff like that.
Morro2781 2 years ago
... has it occured to any of you that perhaps this is about all of the sides that are fighting in the current war? and do you mean to say he shouldn't feel bad for shooting down an innocent lady trying to surrender? Do you honestly mean to say he shouldn't feel bad for making innocent children scream and cry? odn't you think soldiers from both sides feel that way? he just did it from the american side because it's familiar to us...
XDSoccer 2 years ago 3
Im currently in the military and this song
always makes me think of what Im fighting for!!
41mike64 2 years ago
Obviously written by an idiot who knows nothing about war he is unexperienced who has never been in the army. This song sympathizes with terrorists who were shooting at Americans. Those are the ones who have killed over 3000 American soldiers and wounding plenty more. If this band doesnt like their country than they should move. Complaining how Americans treat Prisoners of War but do they not remember Daniel Pearl? The American journalist who was decapitated by the same people theyre siding with
VyacheslvTchaikovsky 2 years ago 2
dude watch an interview with rise against. they wrote this song BASED on letters written by soldiers fighting in the war. try doing a little research before you make a comment like that you asshole.
abc2gum 2 years ago
Yep, I'm sure
VyacheslvTchaikovsky 2 years ago
dude what are you talking about?, you probley dont get what this song means, and treating a P.O.W like hes nothing isnt peace, "American Soldiers" are they to end the war and make peace SUPPOSIDLY but no they arent makeing peace, their causeing more of a shit storm then their already was, they wanted Osama, they got him and hung him, why the fuck are they there? its not about talibans and americans being killed, its their fault americans are being killed because they sent them their.
Hydro022 2 years ago
.......I seriously feel bad for you if you believe that the United States caught Osama Bin Laden, and hung him....... Sadam was the one who got killed.........By Iraqi's. Not Americans.... The war started about Osama and turned into WMD's, not the other way around........
VyacheslvTchaikovsky 2 years ago
this war is about Oil not terrorists, it started about WMD's turned to osama, now their still there, why? oil. they america wants oil and their continueing a shitty war for it, if you dont see that and you think that treating POWs not like civilians, but like nothing, then you are a terrorist. happy? now you can comment back and bitch all you want but its not going to bother me, because i beleive in peace and you like war so we are diffrent by what i read from your comment.
Hydro022 2 years ago
seriously? you are a fucking idiot this has nothing to do with which side you are on u closeminded fuck. This song is about the horror's of war on both sides. In no circumstance is treatinga POW like that ok on eitherside. This song does not sympathize with the terrorists either u moron truly the song is telling the story of a naive guy goin 2 war and killing people and saving ppl they are fighting and saving lifes but at the cost of other lives seriously think b4 u post stupid shit like this.
jashfa 2 years ago
Hmm...You're right, cutting off reporters heads is much better. Shouldn't someone like yourself, with English as a first language have much better grammar?
VyacheslvTchaikovsky 2 years ago 4
I agree with you Jashfa great song, makes me proud to know brave soldiers serving right now.
The only thing that I thought was wrong was at 2:32 it shows the American flag upside down which is probably the left wing directors way of subtly disrespecting someone of something with respect to the states.
forkorc 2 years ago
lol u completely missed the message of this song
great going you earn 100 douche bag points
MADmentality 2 years ago
tee hee thats pretty good :P
enseeb 2 years ago
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is it a prowar, antiwar or what happens in war
AZnotCali88 2 years ago
i like that song
shawn251 2 years ago
awesum , awesum, awesum.....i love this song i saw this band in birmingham not too long ago and they were fooooking brilliant :-)
motherfo666 2 years ago
awesome.! that's a great song from a great band. i like it as "ready to fall". This are songs that make you show what we have done to the world.
EarthEliteWarrior 2 years ago