I don't think that we (people who aren't scientists in any of those fields) know enough, to even suggest that we better than the real scientists in those fields do.
@sallybaker1950 No, Einstein did not believe the big bang was crap. Jesus Christ, are you really this ignorant? The big bang theory is BASED on relativity, for goodness sake.
@BlankVellum Red shift and Hubbles law are to different thing. Electric fields and gravitation also cause Red Shift. Hubbles law says only speed causes redshift. Wrong. His one great discovery was the Universe was not one galaxy.
@sallybaker1950 You've managed to fit in so much ignorance into the space of a few sentences, I'm not even sure where to start. First, yes, gravitational fields can cause redshift, due to the photon travelling upwards through a gravity well and losing energy. There is no such thing as electric redshift, or at least nothing that isn't speculative. Secondly, The Hubble Constant is derived from observations of redshift due to the expansion of the universe. He never said only speed causes it.
@tommymonsternz Where did you get that lie about the church thinking the earth was flat? The Bible teaches that the Earth is ROUND. Here, check these passages out...
The Old Testament prophet ISAIAH (circa 700 B.C.) quotes as follows:
"It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE* of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." --Isaiah 40:22
ok ok stupid example, what im saying is just that the big bang theory FINISHES what we can see, but what we DO NOT see, and NEVER WILL (due to the speed of light). big bang is the most PROBABLE answer, but not the only one. and anyways - it is saying that SOMETHING was created out of NOTHING. it is possible, but what about infinite time, infinite number of universes before and after us, big crunches, etc etc.
i dont understand WHY do all these "big bang never happened" videos get so many dislikes. humans are able to observe young galaxies, very close together and microwave background, but that does NOT mean the matter (galaxies) were once concentrated in ONE point. okay, it is probable, but not SURE. its like having a picture of a bunny with three legs and u have to finish it. u draw the fourth one. but there is still CHANCE it had 3 legs :D
It is not the best we have. its upsetting to think that the big bang theory is what we have to explain how the universe came to be as it is. It defies the simple rules of science. When one of the first rules come about that matter can not be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed. So where did the matter just come from? this is and has always been the main thing for me that tells me this theory is flawed beyond acceptance for me.
Great! Now go write a paper on it and get it published. Should be no biggie, after all you have just noticed something that has eluded every other cosmologist to date. Something that would mean rethinking the whole field of cosmology basicly.
This will probably win the nobel prize so go make yourself a career that will have you set for life. Or don't, because you know it is sheit :p
@suedeslounge naw, all that one says is that there seem to be a tendency for high redshift QSO's to be ejected from low redshift active galaxies. This might suggest, that there are exceptions to the lightshift measurement method. This does not discount other observations that have turned out to be true.
He also states in the conclusion that more studies are needed since this is a one off galaxy so far.
Hubbles law might need revision in the future I'll give you that.
@suedeslounge What I am waiting for is the consensus of the scientific comunity to swing, this just wont do that I'm afraid. And until then the big bang model is the best one we have.
@biggypimp Here's a fact: You know shit about the Big Bang Theory. Now you should stop talking about it. To clear the fog, here's the short version of the theory:
The Big Bang Theory states that everything we see and measure today, every particle of matter, every particle of antimatter and every energy wave has ALWAYS existed in a hot super-condensed state. Then the expansion happened. The young Universe started to cool down and SOME energy turned into matter and antimatter.
as for the evidence itself redshift isnt a measure of distance its a measure of SPEED, and something can be redshifted by:
the object moving away from you
the light from the object moving past a gravitational body between you and it
so for instance a star orbiting a galaxy could get a red shift on rotations which cause it to move away from the observer, these shifts will be higher closer to the centre because the star will rotate FASTER.
ok, your video places one supposedly anomalous piece of data against big bang cosmology and propose this invalidates the mountains of evidence in favour. even completely ignoring whether the fact is true and supposing for a moment it was it would not serve as a refutation of the big bang, at best it would be evidence against hubbles law.
@tuseroni "big bang" is religion, not science. Since nobody can go there wherever that tiny dot is supposed to have randomly exploded into a universe from nothing only 13 billion years ago :"D Pseudo-scientists make up outlandish crap, and nobody is allowed to disagree. They pick and choose indirect "measurements" of millions of light years away to make it seem "fact" and throw out anything that doesn't agree. it's not in any way science.
Incorrect reasoning, redshift is a log scale of dx, not a linear scale. Its not the redshift that is proportional to distance, its the recession velocity that is proportional to distance, the Hubble constant, 72.6 ± 3.1 km per second per Megaparcec of distance. Anyone can look up the redshift and time dilation graphs to see these facts. This does not mean the Big Bang theory is correct, it just means that this video is wrong in the reasoning why it might be wrong.
My dear MNEMENTH1. You have made a brilliant observation. And I would not be surprised to hear that you are the only person, so far, to point out this dust problem. I hope you are proven correct and win the Nobel Prize because if you are right, you will deserve the prize money. And BTW, if you win, could you lend me some? I could use $100,000. I have a plan to take over the world and employ 10,000 anti scientists to explore the UNIVERSE with my hyperdrive engine! Patent pending.
Established churches are not particulary interested either way in the Big Bang theory, they don't need it, and if anything they are wary of its implications, something a sociological abd historical illiterate like fatfist fails to grasp. If fatfist wasn't the simpleton he is he'd grasped by now that the older churches need only be creationists in the sense that 'ultimately' everything is created by God. Just in case let it be known I'm an atheist, just not a moronic one.
It's astonishing how much scientific illiteracy can be packed un just under three minutes. Lamentable also how committed many anti-BB activists and bores generally are to the notion that Big Bang is somehow about creation ex nihilo. Fatfist particulaly deserves a medal for his mass ad hominen argument against BB on the - empirically unsubstantiated - grounds that 'religious folk' are more prone to 'believe' in BB than atheists.
@Hempstraw Omfg... WTF... are you TALKING about?! YOURE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN THE DUMBASS WHO MADE (and worsely left it up this long) THIS VIDEO!!!! The Big Bang isnt a THEORY... it hasnt been for more than half a decade now. Over the last 20 years theyve been calculating positions and it is 100% FACT that the universe is all drifting outward from a centerpoint at mostly the same speed. THATS CAUSED BY EXPLOSION YOU FUCKING NO BRAIN! Shut the fuck up! YOURE A MORON!!!!
@ijociou Man, I know yu're trying to help science, but there's no "centerpoint", the universe is isotropic. And the big bang is a theory, in the means it successfully tries to explain the fact that the universe is finite in time and is expanding. About the others being idiots, they probably are.
@MrBeiragua You seem fairly intelligent, which strikes me as odd that you would still deny the factual position of the centerpoint. The centerpoint is where TBB occurred, both in space and the relative "time". Its not a theory anymore, its been sustained with mathematical triangulation. Everything is not only expanding, but accelerating at a notably set rate of inclination as well. All objects are drifting TOGETHER in a shockwave derived pathway. That is a FACT, my good sir, read up.
@ijociou I´m sorry to deny once again, but the universe is isotropic. I´ve tried to look on information about when did they find the centerpoint and who, but I haven´t been able to find. If you can pass me the paper or the site, I would be pleasured. It´sjust a little bit of ceticism.
Responder a este vídeo... Oh, when I say it´s a theory, it´s in teh sense that the Theory of the Big Bangexplain the Fact of the big bang. It´s a fact, and it´s a theory. I´m not talking in creationenglish, where theory isn´t proved yet. Good afternoon!
@MrBeiragua ....... What? That made... ENTIRELY ...no sense... NONE.. congratulations. You see boys and girls? this is what happens when a fact comes in contact with bullshit. It renders the bullshit to gibberish. =)
@ijociou My friend, it seams you´re not getting the point. In science we say that a proven hypothesis that explain a fact. If you think what I´m saying is that the big bang is not proved because it´s still a theory, you´re wrong. It´s proven, we now that the big bang happened. The fact, the thing. But a fact by itself does not explain anything. We need a theory, named with the same name in this case, to do so. It´s like gravity and Gravitation theory, one´s the fact, the other the explanation.
@ijociou@MrBeiragua Just correcting myself: [...] In science we say that a theory is a proven hypothesis that explains a fact [...]
If you google ´´talkorigins evidence for big bang´´, you see that there´s a section named ´´common miscomceptions about the big bang´´. You can read about what i´m talking. The big bang is fact (what happened), and there´s a theory with the same name (big bang theory, that explains how the fact happened). It´s no gibberish nor bullshit. It´s science.
Already that they have determined the centerpoint location for it. Its the same as everything elses centerpoint you DOLT. The big bang isnt a fucking THEORY... its a fact... Mathematically sound and unflawed. You sir... Are an oaf. Either that or some dumbass attention seeker spouting off just trying to pull in followers as infantile as yourself.
So I see a lot of people telling you you are a MORON. But none of them Ive seen has told you WHY... (Ill confess I quit scanning far before finishing the list) Here is WHY... you sir... are a flipping ijut. The quasar you mentioned is on the other side of the universe dumbass... its got a negative redshift. Its not even traveling in the same direction. Meaning it was expelled from a centerpoint from us. And in all actuality thats a pretty heavily watched Quasar and science has TOLD us
Watch and try to comprehend we know very little about about what we think we know. The big bang theory is just a theory based upon manipulated math. To discount all other theories is naive.
@mnemeth1 Duhhhh... The red-shift effect is not caused by the distance of an object from the earth, but by its motion relative to the earth. Don't tell me you are a fundie who thinks he understands cosmology. You lot haven't even got your little minds around evolution yet. Sorry if you aren't a fundie, but you seem to have the intelligence of one.
@ilkinond The red shift and the expanding universe from a "big bang" are both still just theories. There are many people who think the universe is constant and the red shift isn't from moving galaxies, but rather space, dust and distance. Much like the color of the sun at dawn..
wow, you're completely non scientific explanation not only made you look completely ignorant, but it also didn't prove you're point. You need to read a book and stop flouting your opinions until you understand what you're talking about!
You realize this all goes to shit by doing about ten minutes of research online? But the, one of the most entertaining ways to spend time on the internet is to look and laugh at people with no idea, peddling pseudo scientific nonsense. So please keep uploading. I lol'd.
Maybe light itself loses energy over time and it moves to the red end of the spectrum, just like a pebble in a pond, it starts with rapid waves and turns into longer waves the further away from the source it is. That would still mean the redshift is proportional to the distance, however may not suggest the universe is expanding, unless that is we notice an increase in redshift from several sources over a period of time.
Maybe the shift in red is from being in the vicinity of a strong electromagnetic field? The shift we see from distant objects may be due to the "depth" of the magnetic field we are viewing it through. It appears that new ideas need to explain why the redshift from quasars nearest galaxies do not fit the norm.
You don't understand it yourself, it's very simple..they were wrong about that quasar it's much closer then they thought..this has nothing to do with the Big Bang Theory..take this crap down from youtube..
There is nothing conclusively wrong with Big Bang from that observation. The paper accounts for the redshift in terms of the QSO ejected from the nucleus of the galaxy. Btw, redshift means recessional velocity; in cosmology this is usually related to the expansion rate of the universe, but it's not the only interpretation. In fact, redshift (as a concept, not term) was familiar to physicists well before Hubble.
In 1929 Edwin Hubble thought the universe was 2 billion years old. The telescope that was named after him has seen galaxies older than 13 billion years. These galaxies couldn't have been around before the big bang, so now we believe the universe is 13.7 billion. This is not our last telescope folks. I guarantee when we discover a galaxy 20 billion light years away, we will then say the universe is 20.7 billion years old. Oh look 30 billion, must be 30.7, and so on for infinity.
Bullshit... you have managed to get a 50% rating. Does that not tell you anything? If what you say is correct, we should be able to detect that. We are a sharp race...
well most of us. :) Give me "some" prove... some indication that what you say is true. You just can't...
For the record, I am a navy veteran who has been suffering from a range of symptoms, including neuropathy, caused by the swine flu vaccine I received from none other than the VA itself. Doesn't matter if there's an overarching conspiracy, the fact that this deadly vaccine was rushed to market with huge campaigns is enough for us reasonable folks to call a wolf in sheep's clothing.
It's called the scientific method. If you needed evidence to make a hypothesis there would be no where to begin, therefore you could never discover anything. Does the theory have flaws. Yes, every theory has flaws. Thats why it is a theory. I could make up a theory that the universe was created from pop rocks and diet coke. Do I need evidence to call it a theory. No. The big bang is just a theory. Not fact. Anyway, this doesn't disprove/prove anything.
Foolish people, gravaty tents to attract objects, so if the universe dosen't expand then it has to compress, due to the gravitational field, do this experiment take two magnets keep them in a frictionless surface and then in some time they will join acclerating each time the closer they are, then you have to believe that the universe is expanding to keep gravity from taking over the universe, wheather if the theory is true or false but the universe is expanding
all the physics pertaining to space-time, concludes that this distortion of space would occur. we have evidence that mass distorts space..light coming from directly behind an object can be seen, because the light follows the curvature of space and wraps around the object. so, naturally, the more massive the object, the more of a distortion, thus, the more gravity. and with an object of infinite density, there will be extreme gravity. a black hole!
@itzahazylife did you really mean to reply this? are you sure about the center of the galaxies? you are saying the center has object of infinite density, in which case it contradicts the idea of a black hole at the centre. Don't confuse yourself with gravity and black hole. Physicists say that the black hole doesn't let light to escape and assume that there is black hole at the center of galaxy but to contradict their belief the galactic centers are highly luminous.
it's people like u who don't read a god damned thing about anything, and then come on to videos like this and spread your ignorance around in an attempt to act like u know more than the scientists who dedicate their lives to studying these things.
@itzahazylife you sheep, just follow the herd and don't come here to judge people and their knowledge with the few comments that you read. You are talking about those cosmologist who took almost a century to find that their concept about redshift is incorrect. And those that still work with flying machines with the damn propulsion systems and fueled engines...people who still hide info to the public about other beings and those technical advanced UFOs...come on give me a break.
if u don't wanna be judged as a fool, don't say foolish things..how about that?..and i'm a sheep for taking the word of EXPERTS, yet you're the independent thinker because u deny what mostly all of the experts agree on?..that just makes u an unwise idiot who think he knows more than experts.
red shift is incorrect now? lol..did u hear that from actual cosmologists, some youtube quack, or did u pull that out of your ass?
@itzahazylife I understand that you care about you and your reputation more than doing any good to physics. Truth will never fail. It's just been hidden but sadly for too long that it hinders the growth of science and tech.
hey idiot, are u gonna avoid my questions, or are u gonna answer them?..u claimed red shift is incorrect. where did u hear that?..cosmologists, a youtube quack, or did u pull it out of your ass?
the truth will never fail?..oh, so i'm assuming that u have the truth about the cosmos? lol..not the expert cosmologists who dedicate their lives to studying the universe on a daily basis?..no, they got it all wrong. they have no idea what they are talking about. black holes don't exist, because kriscool001 says they don't..red shift is wrong because kriscool001 saw some youtube video claiming it's wrong. u are fucking clueless. the sooner u realize that, the better.
look around u unappreciative little fuck..every piece of technology including modern medicine is because of science..science figures shit out about the natural world..and it aids our survival tremendously..you're a clueless little shit.
@itzahazylife And you go to name calling, haha, you're part of the reason the world is turning into a terrible place. Haha, you show a big lack of intelligence my friend.
you're so simple-minded..u don't realize how much of an insult it is for u to say "scientists dedicate their lives for nothing. they spread around lies"..it's a ridiculous remark to make..with everything science has learned, comes every modern medical treatment, and every single convenience u experience. my insult toward u was not due to a lack of intelligence on my part, it was due to me being utterly annoyed at your lack of intelligence.
@itzahazylife HAHA, nice way of turning it around on me, very impressive I must say, but the studies of the Universe and all these "Theories" is just a big waste of time, scientists should just study stuff and not make up ridiculous things about them.
i deal with u people on youtube all the time..completely fuckin ignorant of science. it drives me to insults, because it's so frustrating..."scientists should just study stuff and not make up ridiculous things about them."..another stupid remark. yeah, scientists just pull these theories out of their asses..they don't have any evidence backing them up or anything..they just make this shit up in their basements. yep, that's all a theory is..just a bunch of shit they pull out of a hat.
@itzahazylife You're right about that last part. They don't have evidence for any of these "Black holes" and other things. and have you noticed how they're all "theories?" Scientists even doubt their own beliefs. While in Christianity there are no theories. it's all facts.
man oh man.you're clueless..no evidence for black holes? lol,wow, u are very misinformed.
a theory in science isn't just a guess lol..it's an explanation that is well supported by all the evidence..it's an explanation which accounts for all of the evidence..it ties all the evidence together. theories don't become facts..theories explain facts..theories piece together and explain all the facts..is germ theory just a theory? lol..think about that when you're being cured of a disease.
@itzahazylife Lol, germ theory? Can't say I've heard of it. Haha, a theory is what Scientists think. If it were all true (Evolution, Black Holes, etc.) They would know it for a fact, there is no proof of evolution.
you're a real jackass kid..germ theory explains how bacteria and viruses cause disease. u may have never heard of it, but, it probably saved u from a disease via a certain vaccine. the theory of gravity explains how gravity is created..there is all substantial evidence for these explanations (theories)..in fact, the evidence leads to the explanation. evolution is a fact. the theory explains how the fact occurs..facts and theories co-support each other.
@itzahazylife Evolution isnt a fact, it isn't real. we didnt come from monkeys, the only thing that could possibly be used as evidence is that some animals show tiny resemblance to humans/other animals. Things like fossils, they havent found any fossils of something in the inbetween stages and never will. And getting to what you said about vaccines. I've never had any big disease before, and if i get one, i sure wont get a vaccine, I dont want to die or get even more diseased.
so, you're the youth of america?..you're a very stupid kid. u don't know anything about science, or evolution. u just spout off whatever rumors u hear and do no actual research of anything..and u don't want vaccines? lol..do u have any idea how many lives vaccines have saved?..you're a clueless kid.
@itzahazylife Haha, you seriously just made me mad. you say I believe anything I hear? look at yourself, eating out of those power hungry fool's hands. And I am aware of how many lives vaccines have saved, when they werent trying to kill us off. See, you're probably in danger every second of the day just because of your stupidity. Damn, you're such a sheeple. I bet you support that idiot Obama as well now don't you? It wouldn't surprise me.
u go around listening to all the paranoid conspiracy theories, don't u?..and since others don't, they are the sheep, right?..but in actuality, you're the sheep, because u believe all of it without actually researching any of it..i can almost guarantee u watch youtube conspiracy theory videos of people who sound like they know what they're talking about..and i'm in danger everyday? lol..which one of your paranoid conspiracies am i in danger of?
and actually, the only thing you've displayed is how stupid u are. u have demonstrated how little u know about evolution.."we didn't come from monkey's"...lol, what scientists claims that we did?.."they haven't found transitional fossils"..lol, they have many transitional fossils..they even have live animals like the walking catfish. and then you're talking about not getting a vaccine if u get a disease..u dumbass, vaccines prevent disease, they don't cure it..
@rawman44 No we didn't "come" from monkeys and no one said that. We share a common ancestor with monkeys. It's a common misconception with people who are not familiar with the theory of evolution.
Also, after reading your hate for vaccines, I'm guessing you don't realize that a vaccine you were given as a baby most likely saved you from dying of Polio. A disease that killed, on average, 1,000 American's each year before the vaccine was introduced.
@WildDerpachu it's funny how idiots like you call me a sheep, when I do my own research to find these things, and you listen to the stuff that's just handed out to the public. I see you're doubting evolution yourself "we didn't come from monkeys" pretty much all scientists say we did. You may have a common ancestor, but I sure don't. And did you read what I said? yes, a vaccine may have saved my life, but that was a long time ago when they werent trying to kill everyone off.
@rawman44 If you go do some more research you'll be pleased to know that the theory never says that that ancestor evolved into monkeys which then evolved into us. We just evolved separately from the same one.
Could you provide evidence to back up your assertion? Evidence that is not Alex Jones or another conspiracy video. Actual proof please. Proof that "they" are purposely "killing off erryone" with vaccines.
@WildDerpachu Could you please provide evidence of evolution or black holes? That's right, you can't. Because there is no evidence, it's all bull fed to morons like yourself.
@WildDerpachu actually we didn't come from monkey species that exist right now, we came from a common ancestor of humans and monkeys that would probably look different to all monkeys alive today but still look similar enough to these monkeys that we might classify this ancestor as a type of monkey.
@IndignantSkeptic No I saw a picture of one of the common ancestors of humans and monkeys and it looked like you and your family. Except the common ancestor didn't have a much hair.
u forget one thing..i actually know what the evidence is for black holes, red shift, etc. i actually read and watch what the experts have to say..so, when u come on here spouting off about how we don't know if black holes even exist, it makes u sound like a nutjob..because we DO know. there is a lot of evidence for black holes and red shift. but, u don't bother reading about the evidence, because for some reason u think u don't need to.
"have you even thought or questioned how the universe would expand while every object in space attract every other object???"
hahaha, you're right..gravity would cause everything to contract. yet, the universe IS expanding. look up red shift. galaxies are moving away from each other at high rates...we have proof of this. scientists are trying to figure out what the force is that's causing the universe to expand in spite of the gravitational force.
u goof ball..u can't see black holes!..there's only indirect evidence of their existence due to the gravitational effect they have on matter and light..there is plenty of evidence that a black hole exists at the center of our galaxy..problem is, u don't do the proper research to learn why cosmologists are certain there is a black hole at the center of our galaxy. sounds like u just look at pictures of galaxies and say to yourself.. "where's the black hole?..i don't see one"
@itzahazylife since when did physicists start believing things with no credible evidence? gravitation in the first place is believed on an assumption and there is one more thing on its top to consider with some indirect evidence??? since people doesn't understand all that scientist define, it has been possible for them to easily sink any idea of theirs. This is time to question everything that is being told. Where are the gravitons? Does black holes really exist?...
u have NO understanding of how science works, and i'm getting tired of wasting my time with u..
"since people doesn't understand all that scientist define, it has been possible for them to easily sink any idea of theirs"
that's what the scientific community is for!!..they are constantly trying to prove each other wrong. in order for something to be accepted as true in the scientific community, it needs to survive the intense scrutiny of the peer review process.
"since when did physicists start believing things with no credible evidence? gravitation in the first place is believed on an assumption"
WRONG..we KNOW that mass warps space, and that this warping causes gravity..look up Einstein and gravitational lensing.
we know black holes exist because we can actually see them eating stars. we can actually see the light and matter swirling around the black hole as it's being eaten.
"the more an objects light is shifter towards red light, the further away we assume it must be." um no, its not the distance but the velocity. if there is red shift then you assume its moving away from us. if blue, then its moving towards us, like andromeda
Ahhh hahhahhahhaha zomg! Well at least this was both a good laugh and a sad commentary on your education :D
Its there, it happened, its all around you, you exist because of the big bang. Many people who observe whats known investigated and try to find alternative explanations. The honest ones end up agreeing about the fit of the big bang theory. You will have to do better then this to turn it on its head.
oooookkaaaaaayy its fact that the galaxy is expanding sombody should have told you this b4 you wasted your time making this video sorry. and dont bother wrighting me cause i really dont care what you have to say ur video says to me that you have nothing intelligent to offer :)
You must be a religious nut to not believe in the big bang. there's lots of evidence supporting the big bang model. you can choose to ignore it but your obstinacy is not going to change the facts. all you're doing is showing that you're truly ignorant.
Grow up kid. I assume you're a kid seeing as how you articulate yourself like a seventh grade child. I can assure you that the majority of so called "secularists" that you are inviting to troll you do not care to sway your arguments so long as you keep them to yourself.
@HOW7EY Somehow I doubt that, but for the sake of argument sure; you're 23. Maybe you should try acting your age. I'm sure you hear this all the time.
@miasmablk yeah sure im lying. you can believe whatever you want.you know why? I dont know you..i dont care. and im going to block you now.reason why is your telling me to act my age and saying im some little 12 year old when you dont realise your not exactly acting mature. so why dont you just forget you ever spoke to me because honestly? i didnt even read all your comments because i dont have the time the argue with a person i dont know. so im going to do the "act your age" as you put it.
we know now that all big bangs come from 2 objects in collision and so big bangs are related to black hole cores just a LOT bigger and they come from the same thing so before the big bang were other big bangs and the shape of the Universe is exactly same as the quasarsa we see now but on grander scales..no mystery here!
just bad science conclusions refusing to correct itself from magical impossible things like the big bang and how it fits no science today "something from nothing"
you ned POTENTIAL and that is a giant ball not an atom one like they lie to you in a fake theory so you not see the real powers at work or use them to serve mankind. The big bang is the collision of 2 objects we call singularities because they are so big and can make the jets that are inside of one happen just like quasars do in TINY COPIES.
so the Universe is that much bigger and we have scales now to measure it! All is RELATIVE IN SIZE!
Big bang never took place and a we KNOW now that most of the claims of the Big Bang are WRONG!
nothing to something is impossible and brakes the laws of physics as the evidence is shown that the Earth is just inside a JET from a far greater collision than quasars to make copies in tiny we call quasars and black holes. so it is just scale and the facts all fit perfect Big bang is 1/2 wrong all the way. We have examples to prove it so larger scales are SAME!
In reality redshift indicates that object is moving away from us, while blue color toward us. Also universe had to be created somehow, it didn't just appear "accidentally". It had reason, everything can be logically explained. Everything is related because everything appeared from one source.
Beautiful music - because it is analogical to order of the universe.
Red shift is the equivalent of doppler shift for light. If light is moving in the opposite direction as you, you see the light a bit more "red". Generally, objects moving quickly away from you are far away due to the expansion of space, but there are much closer objects such as quasars that have jets just as fast. In short, you're a complete moron who knows nothing about science.
that is like saying a car on the road is moving away... but you have nothing if the car is going off the road a bit to the right... you then need other quasars to tell you how it is slanting to the right and not 100% away from you SO YOU NEED OTHER REFERENCE POINTS and the father you go the more you need them to guide you to know 100% away or other angles left or right just as important or all things be moving away from us
so nothing is as simple as some think! took super computers
I teach that the quasars are exact copies of the big bang and the whole known universe is just part of the jet of one...and i have been saying this for decades before they found black holes.
I am 100% right!
the size difference is the ne and only factor that changes (with gravity effects)
Soon they will tell you the same...they usually take 20 years to catch up to me.
I speak of STONES IN THE DEEP
I reduce gravity to potential (1) not infinity so all was made clear. TRY IT!
@Peterwhitlock Quasars....they are black holes involved in the process of galaxy formation that are consuming matter at a hugely accellerated rate. They shut off after a certain point in the galaxy formation. Quasars are not exact copies of the big bang which was an expansion of matter at a singularity 13.7 billion years ago.
@Peterwhitlock Ahhhh hahhahaha k :D So we are inside a black hole now too? :D
Quasars are black holes feeding at enormous rates. They drop from quasar status once the excess materials that have been consumed at an elevated rate are run out. It is a state of being genius :D
I never said singularities were NOT the hypothesized centres of black holes, but they are, your point is what?
The mountain of literature says YOU lie about 2 object impact. Prove me wrong. This is hilarious :D
WOW! Go learn what a quasar IS! You have so little science in your head that you make all the novice mistakes and think you got any of it right!
They have brains and you have emotion and child conclusions without any kind of science to back you up in your lies.
The Only part of Universe they do not understand is that it is far bigger and has much larger parts and is far older than they all dreamed of together. Universe = collision of 2singularities...so others exist too!
@Peterwhitlock RED SHIFT is claimed to be an indicator to messure the distance of objects relative to us in space you wacko. The faster something is moving away from us the more far away it is, at least thats the theory.
agai8n IDIOT red shift only indicate something is moving away and has nothing to do with how far you moron... I told you to go learn it and you did not and came back with the same lies!
it is not theory ether you dunce.... it is observed fact!
No you stupid MORON we look at them all and compare the shifts to see if them in relation to each other and no one on this planet can look at a quasar and tell how far it is you imbecile! We use computers and correlate the reaction from many to find ONE!
You think you know thing but you only know 1/2 of them!
we need to watch all quasars to know them all and use computers... then again you are dunce and could not grasp direction in degrees... you have a dunce mind than see towards me and away from me but not side to side any angles... it is how your small mind works... you could not tell on degree from another in direction with out REFERENCE POINTS! so dunce go back and learn some more... you did a piss poor job the first time!
@Peterwhitlock Hey troll, maybe you should go back and learn about Red Shift or at least do a basic research on the subject befor calling names. Get this through your head red shift IS an indicator for distance in space you lazy child, its not me who is saying this its the fucking NASA, period.
you have to know what direction anything is moving and that calls ofr more than one quasar..I live on a planet of apes that think they know and do not use 1/2 the math or logic... we could not even tell till the computers told us in 2003!
so shut up bunch opf fool...you need BOTH!
You need distance AND you need to know DIRECTION because going away left or right is something you idiots did not think about angles at all!
@Peterwhitlock From NASA: Scientists measure cosmic distances via redshift, the extent to which light is "shifted" towards the red (lower energy) part of the electromagnetic spectrum during its long journey across the universe. The greater the distance, the higher the redshift.
no they use red shift AND other known sources to not just tell distance but direction as well... to claim only red shift is same as saying I start the car and that is driving... it is not! it is just starting the car!
you need BOTH so a set of known points to make sure the one you are looking ar is as it is... otherwise you fools only have ONE direction 100% away... no left or right... just 1/2 the job done you think it is done! try using the brain!
Very recently, in cosmic terms, we thought the World was flat, so I'd guess today science is way off track. For all we know the universe could be a remnant of Gods fart.
take a big black hole core and make it bigger and bigger till it is so big it gathered 1/2 of all we know and then hit it to another of the same...presto big bang complete with millions of examples to prove it. I won long ago... grow up and come be with me where the universe make sense! No magical from nothing theories! sizes far beyond all man dared think...I am beyond you all and call back to you to join me.
not even! the big bang being nothing more than just another quasar collision just on massif scales tells us exactly what is what before the event and destroys the big bang theory for big bang FACTS!
They always need to come up with some made up constants like lightspeed and Hubbleredshift, so that they are able to produce their phony mathematical formulas.
Our whole picture of the universe is wrong, and yea the judeo religion point of view is wrong also.
@wownov83 One? Name any physical phenomena, it can be explained by mathematical equations. Einstein's theory of relativity predicted a slight shift in the orbit of mercury to astounding precision. Quantum electrodynamics is so precise that it yields predictions with an error comparable to the width of a needle when measuring the circumference of the earth... educate yourself.
I don't think that we (people who aren't scientists in any of those fields) know enough, to even suggest that we better than the real scientists in those fields do.
torkamarinum 1 week ago
@huntingboy2 You are not creating energy when you are taping on a desk. You are just transporting kinetic energy from your hand to the desk.
torkamarinum 1 week ago
Einstein believed the Big Bang was crap. He just got tired of fighting.
sallybaker1950 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from mnemeth1
@sallybaker1950 No, Einstein did not believe the big bang was crap. Jesus Christ, are you really this ignorant? The big bang theory is BASED on relativity, for goodness sake.
BlankVellum 3 weeks ago
@tommymonsternz wrong again trying, try finding some legit info and come back to support your already pointless argument.
123morian 1 month ago
WHAT! no big bang creationizm? no spooky action from no-where? FUCK the laws of conservation are true? NO! NO! NO!
KorrazonCold 1 month ago
and everything else huh? I don't disagree with your assertion that Hubbles Law in incorrect, but don't get all Neal Adams on us, ok?
thesimulacre 1 month ago
@thesimulacre Why would you say Hubble Law is incorrect? Especially in light of the recent observations that confirm it to ever higher precision?
BlankVellum 1 month ago
@BlankVellum Red shift and Hubbles law are to different thing. Electric fields and gravitation also cause Red Shift. Hubbles law says only speed causes redshift. Wrong. His one great discovery was the Universe was not one galaxy.
sallybaker1950 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from mnemeth1
@sallybaker1950 You've managed to fit in so much ignorance into the space of a few sentences, I'm not even sure where to start. First, yes, gravitational fields can cause redshift, due to the photon travelling upwards through a gravity well and losing energy. There is no such thing as electric redshift, or at least nothing that isn't speculative. Secondly, The Hubble Constant is derived from observations of redshift due to the expansion of the universe. He never said only speed causes it.
BlankVellum 3 weeks ago
Is wrong.... stars are older than the universe!!!
davidjames1001 1 month ago
@tommymonsternz Hey dumbfuck, go to the orginal text that was in hebrew. You're so stupid.
Hey fucktard, here is what the orginal text said since you didn't read it the first time asshole.
The orginal HEBREW text was "chuwg",meaning "sphere"
simwrangler 2 months ago
@tommymonsternz Where did you get that lie about the church thinking the earth was flat? The Bible teaches that the Earth is ROUND. Here, check these passages out...
The Old Testament prophet ISAIAH (circa 700 B.C.) quotes as follows:
"It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE* of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." --Isaiah 40:22
*Circle=Hebrew "chuwg",meaning "sphere"
simwrangler 2 months ago
ok ok stupid example, what im saying is just that the big bang theory FINISHES what we can see, but what we DO NOT see, and NEVER WILL (due to the speed of light). big bang is the most PROBABLE answer, but not the only one. and anyways - it is saying that SOMETHING was created out of NOTHING. it is possible, but what about infinite time, infinite number of universes before and after us, big crunches, etc etc.
Neshuah1 2 months ago
i dont understand WHY do all these "big bang never happened" videos get so many dislikes. humans are able to observe young galaxies, very close together and microwave background, but that does NOT mean the matter (galaxies) were once concentrated in ONE point. okay, it is probable, but not SURE. its like having a picture of a bunny with three legs and u have to finish it. u draw the fourth one. but there is still CHANCE it had 3 legs :D
Neshuah1 2 months ago
@Neshuah1 Seriously good post.
dzsquared1 2 months ago
@dzsquared1 thanks
Neshuah1 2 months ago
@Neshuah1 Seriously good post.
dzsquared1 2 months ago
It is not the best we have. its upsetting to think that the big bang theory is what we have to explain how the universe came to be as it is. It defies the simple rules of science. When one of the first rules come about that matter can not be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed. So where did the matter just come from? this is and has always been the main thing for me that tells me this theory is flawed beyond acceptance for me.
jarrinweiser 2 months ago
Great! Now go write a paper on it and get it published. Should be no biggie, after all you have just noticed something that has eluded every other cosmologist to date. Something that would mean rethinking the whole field of cosmology basicly.
This will probably win the nobel prize so go make yourself a career that will have you set for life. Or don't, because you know it is sheit :p
mugogrog 2 months ago
@mugogrog You mean like this one cited in the video notes?
The Discovery of a High-Redshift X-Ray-Emitting QSO Very Close to the Nucleus of NGC 7319
Pasquale Galianni et al 2005 ApJ 620 88-94 doi: 10.1086/426886
suedeslounge 2 months ago
@suedeslounge naw, all that one says is that there seem to be a tendency for high redshift QSO's to be ejected from low redshift active galaxies. This might suggest, that there are exceptions to the lightshift measurement method. This does not discount other observations that have turned out to be true.
He also states in the conclusion that more studies are needed since this is a one off galaxy so far.
Hubbles law might need revision in the future I'll give you that.
mugogrog 2 months ago
@suedeslounge What I am waiting for is the consensus of the scientific comunity to swing, this just wont do that I'm afraid. And until then the big bang model is the best one we have.
mugogrog 2 months ago
@biggypimp Here's a fact: You know shit about the Big Bang Theory. Now you should stop talking about it. To clear the fog, here's the short version of the theory:
The Big Bang Theory states that everything we see and measure today, every particle of matter, every particle of antimatter and every energy wave has ALWAYS existed in a hot super-condensed state. Then the expansion happened. The young Universe started to cool down and SOME energy turned into matter and antimatter.
Good day!
TheKainMan 2 months ago in playlist More videos from mnemeth1
as for the evidence itself redshift isnt a measure of distance its a measure of SPEED, and something can be redshifted by:
the object moving away from you
the light from the object moving past a gravitational body between you and it
so for instance a star orbiting a galaxy could get a red shift on rotations which cause it to move away from the observer, these shifts will be higher closer to the centre because the star will rotate FASTER.
one piece of data is an anomaly not a refutation.
tuseroni 3 months ago
ok, your video places one supposedly anomalous piece of data against big bang cosmology and propose this invalidates the mountains of evidence in favour. even completely ignoring whether the fact is true and supposing for a moment it was it would not serve as a refutation of the big bang, at best it would be evidence against hubbles law.
tuseroni 3 months ago
@tuseroni "big bang" is religion, not science. Since nobody can go there wherever that tiny dot is supposed to have randomly exploded into a universe from nothing only 13 billion years ago :"D Pseudo-scientists make up outlandish crap, and nobody is allowed to disagree. They pick and choose indirect "measurements" of millions of light years away to make it seem "fact" and throw out anything that doesn't agree. it's not in any way science.
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tuseroni 3 months ago
if your going to start an argument. you should probably get facts that support it.
faceonahook 3 months ago
Incorrect reasoning, redshift is a log scale of dx, not a linear scale. Its not the redshift that is proportional to distance, its the recession velocity that is proportional to distance, the Hubble constant, 72.6 ± 3.1 km per second per Megaparcec of distance. Anyone can look up the redshift and time dilation graphs to see these facts. This does not mean the Big Bang theory is correct, it just means that this video is wrong in the reasoning why it might be wrong.
freedomfrombots 4 months ago
My dear MNEMENTH1. You have made a brilliant observation. And I would not be surprised to hear that you are the only person, so far, to point out this dust problem. I hope you are proven correct and win the Nobel Prize because if you are right, you will deserve the prize money. And BTW, if you win, could you lend me some? I could use $100,000. I have a plan to take over the world and employ 10,000 anti scientists to explore the UNIVERSE with my hyperdrive engine! Patent pending.
listen2meokidoki 5 months ago
Established churches are not particulary interested either way in the Big Bang theory, they don't need it, and if anything they are wary of its implications, something a sociological abd historical illiterate like fatfist fails to grasp. If fatfist wasn't the simpleton he is he'd grasped by now that the older churches need only be creationists in the sense that 'ultimately' everything is created by God. Just in case let it be known I'm an atheist, just not a moronic one.
CofradeArrepentido 5 months ago
It's astonishing how much scientific illiteracy can be packed un just under three minutes. Lamentable also how committed many anti-BB activists and bores generally are to the notion that Big Bang is somehow about creation ex nihilo. Fatfist particulaly deserves a medal for his mass ad hominen argument against BB on the - empirically unsubstantiated - grounds that 'religious folk' are more prone to 'believe' in BB than atheists.
CofradeArrepentido 5 months ago
@Hempstraw Omfg... WTF... are you TALKING about?! YOURE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN THE DUMBASS WHO MADE (and worsely left it up this long) THIS VIDEO!!!! The Big Bang isnt a THEORY... it hasnt been for more than half a decade now. Over the last 20 years theyve been calculating positions and it is 100% FACT that the universe is all drifting outward from a centerpoint at mostly the same speed. THATS CAUSED BY EXPLOSION YOU FUCKING NO BRAIN! Shut the fuck up! YOURE A MORON!!!!
ijociou 5 months ago
@ijociou Man, I know yu're trying to help science, but there's no "centerpoint", the universe is isotropic. And the big bang is a theory, in the means it successfully tries to explain the fact that the universe is finite in time and is expanding. About the others being idiots, they probably are.
MrBeiragua 5 months ago
@MrBeiragua You seem fairly intelligent, which strikes me as odd that you would still deny the factual position of the centerpoint. The centerpoint is where TBB occurred, both in space and the relative "time". Its not a theory anymore, its been sustained with mathematical triangulation. Everything is not only expanding, but accelerating at a notably set rate of inclination as well. All objects are drifting TOGETHER in a shockwave derived pathway. That is a FACT, my good sir, read up.
ijociou 5 months ago
@ijociou I´m sorry to deny once again, but the universe is isotropic. I´ve tried to look on information about when did they find the centerpoint and who, but I haven´t been able to find. If you can pass me the paper or the site, I would be pleasured. It´sjust a little bit of ceticism.
MrBeiragua 5 months ago
Responder a este vídeo... Oh, when I say it´s a theory, it´s in teh sense that the Theory of the Big Bangexplain the Fact of the big bang. It´s a fact, and it´s a theory. I´m not talking in creationenglish, where theory isn´t proved yet. Good afternoon!
MrBeiragua 5 months ago
@MrBeiragua ....... What? That made... ENTIRELY ...no sense... NONE.. congratulations. You see boys and girls? this is what happens when a fact comes in contact with bullshit. It renders the bullshit to gibberish. =)
ijociou 5 months ago
@ijociou My friend, it seams you´re not getting the point. In science we say that a proven hypothesis that explain a fact. If you think what I´m saying is that the big bang is not proved because it´s still a theory, you´re wrong. It´s proven, we now that the big bang happened. The fact, the thing. But a fact by itself does not explain anything. We need a theory, named with the same name in this case, to do so. It´s like gravity and Gravitation theory, one´s the fact, the other the explanation.
MrBeiragua 5 months ago
@ijociou @MrBeiragua Just correcting myself: [...] In science we say that a theory is a proven hypothesis that explains a fact [...]
If you google ´´talkorigins evidence for big bang´´, you see that there´s a section named ´´common miscomceptions about the big bang´´. You can read about what i´m talking. The big bang is fact (what happened), and there´s a theory with the same name (big bang theory, that explains how the fact happened). It´s no gibberish nor bullshit. It´s science.
MrBeiragua 5 months ago
Already that they have determined the centerpoint location for it. Its the same as everything elses centerpoint you DOLT. The big bang isnt a fucking THEORY... its a fact... Mathematically sound and unflawed. You sir... Are an oaf. Either that or some dumbass attention seeker spouting off just trying to pull in followers as infantile as yourself.
ijociou 5 months ago
So I see a lot of people telling you you are a MORON. But none of them Ive seen has told you WHY... (Ill confess I quit scanning far before finishing the list) Here is WHY... you sir... are a flipping ijut. The quasar you mentioned is on the other side of the universe dumbass... its got a negative redshift. Its not even traveling in the same direction. Meaning it was expelled from a centerpoint from us. And in all actuality thats a pretty heavily watched Quasar and science has TOLD us
ijociou 5 months ago
HUH??!?!!
shagster1970 5 months ago
Watch and try to comprehend we know very little about about what we think we know. The big bang theory is just a theory based upon manipulated math. To discount all other theories is naive.
/watch?v=1yTfRy0LTD0&feature=related
SuzukiCentral 5 months ago
@mnemeth1 Duhhhh... The red-shift effect is not caused by the distance of an object from the earth, but by its motion relative to the earth. Don't tell me you are a fundie who thinks he understands cosmology. You lot haven't even got your little minds around evolution yet. Sorry if you aren't a fundie, but you seem to have the intelligence of one.
ilkinond 6 months ago
@ilkinond The red shift and the expanding universe from a "big bang" are both still just theories. There are many people who think the universe is constant and the red shift isn't from moving galaxies, but rather space, dust and distance. Much like the color of the sun at dawn..
Don't argue a theory that isn't proven!
Hempstraw 6 months ago
@ilkinond Well put.
ijociou 5 months ago
Oh seriously!! And your point duffus??
ThePaulee65 6 months ago
@ThePaulee65
seriously?
who says duffus anymore?..
this isnt the 90's
no one says that anymore..
hunter7754 6 months ago
@hunter7754 LMAO exactly, sums up his logic too. Doh! ....90's too lol
ThePaulee65 6 months ago
@hunter7754 lots of people say duffus, in fact the person you quoted and asked the question had said it.
you must be slow!
Hempstraw 6 months ago
@Hempstraw
lol you really are an idiot..no offence
"Ohh look at me. I say doofus, I'm so cool and clever"
hunter7754 6 months ago
No, no guy's you don't get it mnemeth1's nick name is "Big Bang" .... you see it all makes sense now doesn't it?
khasseki 6 months ago
wow, you're completely non scientific explanation not only made you look completely ignorant, but it also didn't prove you're point. You need to read a book and stop flouting your opinions until you understand what you're talking about!
calebp9503 7 months ago 2
You realize this all goes to shit by doing about ten minutes of research online? But the, one of the most entertaining ways to spend time on the internet is to look and laugh at people with no idea, peddling pseudo scientific nonsense. So please keep uploading. I lol'd.
SamFischer1000 7 months ago 2
Maybe light itself loses energy over time and it moves to the red end of the spectrum, just like a pebble in a pond, it starts with rapid waves and turns into longer waves the further away from the source it is. That would still mean the redshift is proportional to the distance, however may not suggest the universe is expanding, unless that is we notice an increase in redshift from several sources over a period of time.
ricktbdgc 8 months ago
Maybe the shift in red is from being in the vicinity of a strong electromagnetic field? The shift we see from distant objects may be due to the "depth" of the magnetic field we are viewing it through. It appears that new ideas need to explain why the redshift from quasars nearest galaxies do not fit the norm.
GateMessenger 8 months ago
You don't understand it yourself, it's very simple..they were wrong about that quasar it's much closer then they thought..this has nothing to do with the Big Bang Theory..take this crap down from youtube..
DivineO2 8 months ago
Interesting video! I am an artist on YouTube trying to promote my theory on the dynamics of light and time
This theory is based on just two simple postulates
1. The first is that the quantum wave particle function explained by Schrödinger’s wave equation represents the forward passage of time itself
2. The second is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the wave function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event
nickharvey7 8 months ago
There is nothing conclusively wrong with Big Bang from that observation. The paper accounts for the redshift in terms of the QSO ejected from the nucleus of the galaxy. Btw, redshift means recessional velocity; in cosmology this is usually related to the expansion rate of the universe, but it's not the only interpretation. In fact, redshift (as a concept, not term) was familiar to physicists well before Hubble.
astroclast 8 months ago
you're fuckin stupid
Daniel39363 8 months ago
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In 1929 Edwin Hubble thought the universe was 2 billion years old. The telescope that was named after him has seen galaxies older than 13 billion years. These galaxies couldn't have been around before the big bang, so now we believe the universe is 13.7 billion. This is not our last telescope folks. I guarantee when we discover a galaxy 20 billion light years away, we will then say the universe is 20.7 billion years old. Oh look 30 billion, must be 30.7, and so on for infinity.
giuffre714 8 months ago
Bullshit... you have managed to get a 50% rating. Does that not tell you anything? If what you say is correct, we should be able to detect that. We are a sharp race...
well most of us. :) Give me "some" prove... some indication that what you say is true. You just can't...
strange, isn't it?
quarkkkkk 8 months ago
For the record, I am a navy veteran who has been suffering from a range of symptoms, including neuropathy, caused by the swine flu vaccine I received from none other than the VA itself. Doesn't matter if there's an overarching conspiracy, the fact that this deadly vaccine was rushed to market with huge campaigns is enough for us reasonable folks to call a wolf in sheep's clothing.
mknomad5 9 months ago
I LIKE TURTLES
PLURIC 9 months ago 2
It's called the scientific method. If you needed evidence to make a hypothesis there would be no where to begin, therefore you could never discover anything. Does the theory have flaws. Yes, every theory has flaws. Thats why it is a theory. I could make up a theory that the universe was created from pop rocks and diet coke. Do I need evidence to call it a theory. No. The big bang is just a theory. Not fact. Anyway, this doesn't disprove/prove anything.
TrollAndStuff 9 months ago
This proves nothing....what the fuck is this?
fruitikay 9 months ago
Foolish people, gravaty tents to attract objects, so if the universe dosen't expand then it has to compress, due to the gravitational field, do this experiment take two magnets keep them in a frictionless surface and then in some time they will join acclerating each time the closer they are, then you have to believe that the universe is expanding to keep gravity from taking over the universe, wheather if the theory is true or false but the universe is expanding
noname4096 10 months ago
I'm utterly disappointed by the astrophysics community which comes out with a theory today and after a few decades disproves the same idea/theory
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
all the physics pertaining to space-time, concludes that this distortion of space would occur. we have evidence that mass distorts space..light coming from directly behind an object can be seen, because the light follows the curvature of space and wraps around the object. so, naturally, the more massive the object, the more of a distortion, thus, the more gravity. and with an object of infinite density, there will be extreme gravity. a black hole!
itzahazylife 10 months ago
@itzahazylife did you really mean to reply this? are you sure about the center of the galaxies? you are saying the center has object of infinite density, in which case it contradicts the idea of a black hole at the centre. Don't confuse yourself with gravity and black hole. Physicists say that the black hole doesn't let light to escape and assume that there is black hole at the center of galaxy but to contradict their belief the galactic centers are highly luminous.
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
lol, it's called an event horizon.
itzahazylife 10 months ago
@itzahazylife with people like you who accepts every bs that physicists define, physics heads no where, thats for sure!
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
it's people like u who don't read a god damned thing about anything, and then come on to videos like this and spread your ignorance around in an attempt to act like u know more than the scientists who dedicate their lives to studying these things.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife you sheep, just follow the herd and don't come here to judge people and their knowledge with the few comments that you read. You are talking about those cosmologist who took almost a century to find that their concept about redshift is incorrect. And those that still work with flying machines with the damn propulsion systems and fueled engines...people who still hide info to the public about other beings and those technical advanced UFOs...come on give me a break.
kriscool001 9 months ago
@kriscool001
if u don't wanna be judged as a fool, don't say foolish things..how about that?..and i'm a sheep for taking the word of EXPERTS, yet you're the independent thinker because u deny what mostly all of the experts agree on?..that just makes u an unwise idiot who think he knows more than experts.
red shift is incorrect now? lol..did u hear that from actual cosmologists, some youtube quack, or did u pull that out of your ass?
itzahazylife 9 months ago
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kriscool001 9 months ago
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kriscool001 9 months ago
@itzahazylife I understand that you care about you and your reputation more than doing any good to physics. Truth will never fail. It's just been hidden but sadly for too long that it hinders the growth of science and tech.
kriscool001 9 months ago
@kriscool001
hey idiot, are u gonna avoid my questions, or are u gonna answer them?..u claimed red shift is incorrect. where did u hear that?..cosmologists, a youtube quack, or did u pull it out of your ass?
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@kriscool001
the truth will never fail?..oh, so i'm assuming that u have the truth about the cosmos? lol..not the expert cosmologists who dedicate their lives to studying the universe on a daily basis?..no, they got it all wrong. they have no idea what they are talking about. black holes don't exist, because kriscool001 says they don't..red shift is wrong because kriscool001 saw some youtube video claiming it's wrong. u are fucking clueless. the sooner u realize that, the better.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife Scientists dedicate their lives for nothing. Then spread around lies to the public.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
look around u unappreciative little fuck..every piece of technology including modern medicine is because of science..science figures shit out about the natural world..and it aids our survival tremendously..you're a clueless little shit.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife And you go to name calling, haha, you're part of the reason the world is turning into a terrible place. Haha, you show a big lack of intelligence my friend.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
you're so simple-minded..u don't realize how much of an insult it is for u to say "scientists dedicate their lives for nothing. they spread around lies"..it's a ridiculous remark to make..with everything science has learned, comes every modern medical treatment, and every single convenience u experience. my insult toward u was not due to a lack of intelligence on my part, it was due to me being utterly annoyed at your lack of intelligence.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife HAHA, nice way of turning it around on me, very impressive I must say, but the studies of the Universe and all these "Theories" is just a big waste of time, scientists should just study stuff and not make up ridiculous things about them.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
i deal with u people on youtube all the time..completely fuckin ignorant of science. it drives me to insults, because it's so frustrating..."scientists should just study stuff and not make up ridiculous things about them."..another stupid remark. yeah, scientists just pull these theories out of their asses..they don't have any evidence backing them up or anything..they just make this shit up in their basements. yep, that's all a theory is..just a bunch of shit they pull out of a hat.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife You're right about that last part. They don't have evidence for any of these "Black holes" and other things. and have you noticed how they're all "theories?" Scientists even doubt their own beliefs. While in Christianity there are no theories. it's all facts.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
man oh man.you're clueless..no evidence for black holes? lol,wow, u are very misinformed.
a theory in science isn't just a guess lol..it's an explanation that is well supported by all the evidence..it's an explanation which accounts for all of the evidence..it ties all the evidence together. theories don't become facts..theories explain facts..theories piece together and explain all the facts..is germ theory just a theory? lol..think about that when you're being cured of a disease.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife Lol, germ theory? Can't say I've heard of it. Haha, a theory is what Scientists think. If it were all true (Evolution, Black Holes, etc.) They would know it for a fact, there is no proof of evolution.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
you're a real jackass kid..germ theory explains how bacteria and viruses cause disease. u may have never heard of it, but, it probably saved u from a disease via a certain vaccine. the theory of gravity explains how gravity is created..there is all substantial evidence for these explanations (theories)..in fact, the evidence leads to the explanation. evolution is a fact. the theory explains how the fact occurs..facts and theories co-support each other.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife Evolution isnt a fact, it isn't real. we didnt come from monkeys, the only thing that could possibly be used as evidence is that some animals show tiny resemblance to humans/other animals. Things like fossils, they havent found any fossils of something in the inbetween stages and never will. And getting to what you said about vaccines. I've never had any big disease before, and if i get one, i sure wont get a vaccine, I dont want to die or get even more diseased.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
so, you're the youth of america?..you're a very stupid kid. u don't know anything about science, or evolution. u just spout off whatever rumors u hear and do no actual research of anything..and u don't want vaccines? lol..do u have any idea how many lives vaccines have saved?..you're a clueless kid.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife Haha, you seriously just made me mad. you say I believe anything I hear? look at yourself, eating out of those power hungry fool's hands. And I am aware of how many lives vaccines have saved, when they werent trying to kill us off. See, you're probably in danger every second of the day just because of your stupidity. Damn, you're such a sheeple. I bet you support that idiot Obama as well now don't you? It wouldn't surprise me.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44
u go around listening to all the paranoid conspiracy theories, don't u?..and since others don't, they are the sheep, right?..but in actuality, you're the sheep, because u believe all of it without actually researching any of it..i can almost guarantee u watch youtube conspiracy theory videos of people who sound like they know what they're talking about..and i'm in danger everyday? lol..which one of your paranoid conspiracies am i in danger of?
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@rawman44
and actually, the only thing you've displayed is how stupid u are. u have demonstrated how little u know about evolution.."we didn't come from monkey's"...lol, what scientists claims that we did?.."they haven't found transitional fossils"..lol, they have many transitional fossils..they even have live animals like the walking catfish. and then you're talking about not getting a vaccine if u get a disease..u dumbass, vaccines prevent disease, they don't cure it..
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@rawman44 No we didn't "come" from monkeys and no one said that. We share a common ancestor with monkeys. It's a common misconception with people who are not familiar with the theory of evolution.
Also, after reading your hate for vaccines, I'm guessing you don't realize that a vaccine you were given as a baby most likely saved you from dying of Polio. A disease that killed, on average, 1,000 American's each year before the vaccine was introduced.
WildDerpachu 9 months ago
@WildDerpachu it's funny how idiots like you call me a sheep, when I do my own research to find these things, and you listen to the stuff that's just handed out to the public. I see you're doubting evolution yourself "we didn't come from monkeys" pretty much all scientists say we did. You may have a common ancestor, but I sure don't. And did you read what I said? yes, a vaccine may have saved my life, but that was a long time ago when they werent trying to kill everyone off.
rawman44 9 months ago
@rawman44 If you go do some more research you'll be pleased to know that the theory never says that that ancestor evolved into monkeys which then evolved into us. We just evolved separately from the same one.
Could you provide evidence to back up your assertion? Evidence that is not Alex Jones or another conspiracy video. Actual proof please. Proof that "they" are purposely "killing off erryone" with vaccines.
WildDerpachu 9 months ago
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@WildDerpachu Could you please provide evidence of evolution or black holes? That's right, you can't. Because there is no evidence, it's all bull fed to morons like yourself.
rawman44 9 months ago
@WildDerpachu actually we didn't come from monkey species that exist right now, we came from a common ancestor of humans and monkeys that would probably look different to all monkeys alive today but still look similar enough to these monkeys that we might classify this ancestor as a type of monkey.
IndignantSkeptic 5 months ago
@IndignantSkeptic Monkeys are better PEOPLE than we humans are. You just have to get to know them.
listen2meokidoki 5 months ago
@IndignantSkeptic No I saw a picture of one of the common ancestors of humans and monkeys and it looked like you and your family. Except the common ancestor didn't have a much hair.
boblackey1 4 months ago
@kriscool001
u forget one thing..i actually know what the evidence is for black holes, red shift, etc. i actually read and watch what the experts have to say..so, when u come on here spouting off about how we don't know if black holes even exist, it makes u sound like a nutjob..because we DO know. there is a lot of evidence for black holes and red shift. but, u don't bother reading about the evidence, because for some reason u think u don't need to.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@itzahazylife have you even thought or questioned how the universe would expand while every object in space attract every other object???
you really don't give a damn about physics...
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
"have you even thought or questioned how the universe would expand while every object in space attract every other object???"
hahaha, you're right..gravity would cause everything to contract. yet, the universe IS expanding. look up red shift. galaxies are moving away from each other at high rates...we have proof of this. scientists are trying to figure out what the force is that's causing the universe to expand in spite of the gravitational force.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
also, the concept of black hole is also fraudulent science. There is so far no evidence of any black hole at the center of any galaxy
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
what the hell are u talking about?..google it. there is plenty of evidence. but, it is still found to be a controversial theory among scientists.
itzahazylife 10 months ago
@itzahazylife there are pictures of hundreds of galaxies, show me one that has a black hole at the center.
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
u goof ball..u can't see black holes!..there's only indirect evidence of their existence due to the gravitational effect they have on matter and light..there is plenty of evidence that a black hole exists at the center of our galaxy..problem is, u don't do the proper research to learn why cosmologists are certain there is a black hole at the center of our galaxy. sounds like u just look at pictures of galaxies and say to yourself.. "where's the black hole?..i don't see one"
itzahazylife 10 months ago
@itzahazylife since when did physicists start believing things with no credible evidence? gravitation in the first place is believed on an assumption and there is one more thing on its top to consider with some indirect evidence??? since people doesn't understand all that scientist define, it has been possible for them to easily sink any idea of theirs. This is time to question everything that is being told. Where are the gravitons? Does black holes really exist?...
kriscool001 10 months ago
@kriscool001
u have NO understanding of how science works, and i'm getting tired of wasting my time with u..
"since people doesn't understand all that scientist define, it has been possible for them to easily sink any idea of theirs"
that's what the scientific community is for!!..they are constantly trying to prove each other wrong. in order for something to be accepted as true in the scientific community, it needs to survive the intense scrutiny of the peer review process.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
@kriscool001
"since when did physicists start believing things with no credible evidence? gravitation in the first place is believed on an assumption"
WRONG..we KNOW that mass warps space, and that this warping causes gravity..look up Einstein and gravitational lensing.
we know black holes exist because we can actually see them eating stars. we can actually see the light and matter swirling around the black hole as it's being eaten.
itzahazylife 9 months ago
"the more an objects light is shifter towards red light, the further away we assume it must be." um no, its not the distance but the velocity. if there is red shift then you assume its moving away from us. if blue, then its moving towards us, like andromeda
Heliosvector 10 months ago
@Heliosvector um yes, galaxies that are further away from us move away from us at faster rates.
9hello123 10 months ago
Ahhh hahhahhahhaha zomg! Well at least this was both a good laugh and a sad commentary on your education :D
Its there, it happened, its all around you, you exist because of the big bang. Many people who observe whats known investigated and try to find alternative explanations. The honest ones end up agreeing about the fit of the big bang theory. You will have to do better then this to turn it on its head.
shkotay 10 months ago
oooookkaaaaaayy its fact that the galaxy is expanding sombody should have told you this b4 you wasted your time making this video sorry. and dont bother wrighting me cause i really dont care what you have to say ur video says to me that you have nothing intelligent to offer :)
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danieladventist 10 months ago
You must be a religious nut to not believe in the big bang. there's lots of evidence supporting the big bang model. you can choose to ignore it but your obstinacy is not going to change the facts. all you're doing is showing that you're truly ignorant.
FallofDarkness55 11 months ago
I believe in some higher power, a fate or a god WANNA TROLL ME? fuck off i dont wanna hear its my opinion and none of you can change it
HOW7EY 11 months ago
Grow up kid. I assume you're a kid seeing as how you articulate yourself like a seventh grade child. I can assure you that the majority of so called "secularists" that you are inviting to troll you do not care to sway your arguments so long as you keep them to yourself.
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk hop off my dick im 23
HOW7EY 11 months ago
@HOW7EY Somehow I doubt that, but for the sake of argument sure; you're 23. Maybe you should try acting your age. I'm sure you hear this all the time.
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk yeah sure im lying. you can believe whatever you want.you know why? I dont know you..i dont care. and im going to block you now.reason why is your telling me to act my age and saying im some little 12 year old when you dont realise your not exactly acting mature. so why dont you just forget you ever spoke to me because honestly? i didnt even read all your comments because i dont have the time the argue with a person i dont know. so im going to do the "act your age" as you put it.
HOW7EY 11 months ago
@Th0masWarner
we know now that all big bangs come from 2 objects in collision and so big bangs are related to black hole cores just a LOT bigger and they come from the same thing so before the big bang were other big bangs and the shape of the Universe is exactly same as the quasarsa we see now but on grander scales..no mystery here!
just bad science conclusions refusing to correct itself from magical impossible things like the big bang and how it fits no science today "something from nothing"
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Th0masWarner
e=mc^ makes the big bang impossible!
you ned POTENTIAL and that is a giant ball not an atom one like they lie to you in a fake theory so you not see the real powers at work or use them to serve mankind. The big bang is the collision of 2 objects we call singularities because they are so big and can make the jets that are inside of one happen just like quasars do in TINY COPIES.
so the Universe is that much bigger and we have scales now to measure it! All is RELATIVE IN SIZE!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Th0masWarner
Big bang never took place and a we KNOW now that most of the claims of the Big Bang are WRONG!
nothing to something is impossible and brakes the laws of physics as the evidence is shown that the Earth is just inside a JET from a far greater collision than quasars to make copies in tiny we call quasars and black holes. so it is just scale and the facts all fit perfect Big bang is 1/2 wrong all the way. We have examples to prove it so larger scales are SAME!
bigger bangs ONLY.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
In reality redshift indicates that object is moving away from us, while blue color toward us. Also universe had to be created somehow, it didn't just appear "accidentally". It had reason, everything can be logically explained. Everything is related because everything appeared from one source.
Beautiful music - because it is analogical to order of the universe.
sauroman1 1 year ago
Red shift is the equivalent of doppler shift for light. If light is moving in the opposite direction as you, you see the light a bit more "red". Generally, objects moving quickly away from you are far away due to the expansion of space, but there are much closer objects such as quasars that have jets just as fast. In short, you're a complete moron who knows nothing about science.
wownov83 1 year ago
@wownov83
that is like saying a car on the road is moving away... but you have nothing if the car is going off the road a bit to the right... you then need other quasars to tell you how it is slanting to the right and not 100% away from you SO YOU NEED OTHER REFERENCE POINTS and the father you go the more you need them to guide you to know 100% away or other angles left or right just as important or all things be moving away from us
so nothing is as simple as some think! took super computers
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock What exactly are you responding to? Your post doesn't seem relevant to anything I've said here.
wownov83 1 year ago
@wownov83
I teach that the quasars are exact copies of the big bang and the whole known universe is just part of the jet of one...and i have been saying this for decades before they found black holes.
I am 100% right!
the size difference is the ne and only factor that changes (with gravity effects)
Soon they will tell you the same...they usually take 20 years to catch up to me.
I speak of STONES IN THE DEEP
I reduce gravity to potential (1) not infinity so all was made clear. TRY IT!
Peterwhitlock 11 months ago
@Peterwhitlock lol
wownov83 10 months ago
@Peterwhitlock Quasars....they are black holes involved in the process of galaxy formation that are consuming matter at a hugely accellerated rate. They shut off after a certain point in the galaxy formation. Quasars are not exact copies of the big bang which was an expansion of matter at a singularity 13.7 billion years ago.
Stones....in the deep? Wtf?
shkotay 10 months ago
@shkotay
No black hole stop eating because it has eaten the galaxy YOU LIAR!
Not one single black hole core ever shut itself off you filthy LIAR!
Not one law ot scientist or theory say they shut off... you LIAR!
a singularity is a black hole core you moron!
the Big bang has only size difference and all models now prove 2 object impact not a singularity blows up crap that is now trash!
get up to date fool you're big bang never existed from a singularity
Peterwhitlock 10 months ago
@Peterwhitlock Ahhhh hahhahaha k :D So we are inside a black hole now too? :D
Quasars are black holes feeding at enormous rates. They drop from quasar status once the excess materials that have been consumed at an elevated rate are run out. It is a state of being genius :D
I never said singularities were NOT the hypothesized centres of black holes, but they are, your point is what?
The mountain of literature says YOU lie about 2 object impact. Prove me wrong. This is hilarious :D
shkotay 10 months ago
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wownov83 1 year ago
this has been debunked countless times by modern science
brianpv1 1 year ago
A youtube guy with no scientific credentials or evidence telling us the entire scientific community is wrong. Hmmm, who could be right?
Ozzyman200 1 year ago
WOW! Go learn what a quasar IS! You have so little science in your head that you make all the novice mistakes and think you got any of it right!
They have brains and you have emotion and child conclusions without any kind of science to back you up in your lies.
The Only part of Universe they do not understand is that it is far bigger and has much larger parts and is far older than they all dreamed of together. Universe = collision of 2singularities...so others exist too!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
RED SHIFT...Go learn what it means before you lie lie lie in a clip like that!
RED SHIFT indicates how something is moving away, not how far it is.You simply LIED!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock RED SHIFT is claimed to be an indicator to messure the distance of objects relative to us in space you wacko. The faster something is moving away from us the more far away it is, at least thats the theory.
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo
agai8n IDIOT red shift only indicate something is moving away and has nothing to do with how far you moron... I told you to go learn it and you did not and came back with the same lies!
it is not theory ether you dunce.... it is observed fact!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Plpoo
and IDIOT it is claimed to be indication of DIRECTION not distance you moron
quasars are what we use for that you imbecile! Go learn before you dare talk!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Hey imbecile, how do you use a quasar to mesure distance?
I tell you how, BY LOOKING AT ITS RED SHIFT you stupid child.
Did you ever heard the term Expanding Universe?
The faster a light source is moving away from us the greater its red shift and the greater its distance.
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo
No you stupid MORON we look at them all and compare the shifts to see if them in relation to each other and no one on this planet can look at a quasar and tell how far it is you imbecile! We use computers and correlate the reaction from many to find ONE!
You think you know thing but you only know 1/2 of them!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock thats some mumbo jumbo right there.
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo
no idiot!
we need to watch all quasars to know them all and use computers... then again you are dunce and could not grasp direction in degrees... you have a dunce mind than see towards me and away from me but not side to side any angles... it is how your small mind works... you could not tell on degree from another in direction with out REFERENCE POINTS! so dunce go back and learn some more... you did a piss poor job the first time!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Hey troll, maybe you should go back and learn about Red Shift or at least do a basic research on the subject befor calling names. Get this through your head red shift IS an indicator for distance in space you lazy child, its not me who is saying this its the fucking NASA, period.
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo
idiot
red shift does not give DIRECTION!
you have to know what direction anything is moving and that calls ofr more than one quasar..I live on a planet of apes that think they know and do not use 1/2 the math or logic... we could not even tell till the computers told us in 2003!
so shut up bunch opf fool...you need BOTH!
You need distance AND you need to know DIRECTION because going away left or right is something you idiots did not think about angles at all!
head on/ direct away fools
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock From NASA: Scientists measure cosmic distances via redshift, the extent to which light is "shifted" towards the red (lower energy) part of the electromagnetic spectrum during its long journey across the universe. The greater the distance, the higher the redshift.
nasa DOT gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/sburst05_pressrelease.html
and now f... off!
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo
no they use red shift AND other known sources to not just tell distance but direction as well... to claim only red shift is same as saying I start the car and that is driving... it is not! it is just starting the car!
you need BOTH so a set of known points to make sure the one you are looking ar is as it is... otherwise you fools only have ONE direction 100% away... no left or right... just 1/2 the job done you think it is done! try using the brain!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Very recently, in cosmic terms, we thought the World was flat, so I'd guess today science is way off track. For all we know the universe could be a remnant of Gods fart.
pgjr00 1 year ago
@pgjr00
actually most of Humanity knew the world war round and YOU did not do your homework to know better!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
:)
nice to see someone agrees with me.
i also believe the big bang theory is not completly the truth.
i believe the big bang explains the birth of the smallest particles.
it doesnt show the birth of the forces or the energy that was before the forces were seperated.
i believe string theory explains a lot.
when i look at reality and the world ,its like neo in the metrix looking at codes.
all i see are vibrating strings of different forces being influence by gravitons
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse
string theory is pure junk and full of LIES!
try SIZE theory
take a big black hole core and make it bigger and bigger till it is so big it gathered 1/2 of all we know and then hit it to another of the same...presto big bang complete with millions of examples to prove it. I won long ago... grow up and come be with me where the universe make sense! No magical from nothing theories! sizes far beyond all man dared think...I am beyond you all and call back to you to join me.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse
not even! the big bang being nothing more than just another quasar collision just on massif scales tells us exactly what is what before the event and destroys the big bang theory for big bang FACTS!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
They always need to come up with some made up constants like lightspeed and Hubbleredshift, so that they are able to produce their phony mathematical formulas.
Our whole picture of the universe is wrong, and yea the judeo religion point of view is wrong also.
Plpoo 1 year ago
@Plpoo The same "phony mathematical formulas" that can predict physical phenomena to, in essence, exact precision? You know nothing.
wownov83 1 year ago
@wownov83 which one?
Plpoo 1 year ago
@wownov83 One? Name any physical phenomena, it can be explained by mathematical equations. Einstein's theory of relativity predicted a slight shift in the orbit of mercury to astounding precision. Quantum electrodynamics is so precise that it yields predictions with an error comparable to the width of a needle when measuring the circumference of the earth... educate yourself.
wownov83 1 year ago