the branch of behaviorism and cognitive neuroscience both with objective ends, gestalt psychology does produce objective ends however its means are subjective which does not reduce its credit at all same goes for constructionism
Mitchell and Jolley discuss the question of whether psychology is a science in the first chapter of their text 'Research Design Explained' (3rd Edition). Their conclusions support the claim that psychology is a science. They discuss the facts that psychology produces objective evidence that can be replicated (replicated with the same success as physics and chemistry experiments).
Scientists and mathematicians often have poor communication skills because they try to apply their quantification based perception to human behaviour, which of course doesn't work very well.
Psychology also frequently attempts to quantify human behaviour with numerical values, percentages, statistics etc. If you strike ten pool balls with a stick in the same way under the same conditions you can calculate in advance what the reactions will be. If you poke ten people with a stick in the exact same way their responses will vary incredibly. Even the same individual being poked with a stick on ten occasions will have varied responses.
However if you poke 20,000 people with a stick, you'll find that a certain percentage of people with a stick in the exact same conditions, you'll find that the responses vary predictably. You'll find that over time percentages of people with certain reactions will crop up, percentages which will be more established as more are tested.
A person is unpredictable, because individuality makes almost all people outliers in at least a few respects. People as a group, are predictable.
You can get rough estimates but they aren't very reliable. For example, dress the person holding the stick in a dominatrix outfit then do the whole experiment again and put the stick in the hand of a huge body builder - I thik the results will drastically differ.
Also the results will drastically differ per 20,000 people based on culture - Eg Japan and Texas.
Psychology tries to be a science. Under scientific test conditions you halt all variables except the one you're testing so that any changes can be directly attributed to the variable you altered. This is very difficult to do with people because they are constantly acting as a whole organism and responding to a multitude of stimuli.
Yes psychology is definitely a science! The study of the brain is similar to the study of the rest of the human body. A part from the theories that attempt to explain human behaviour, psychology includes the study of neurons and neural pathways, as well as DNA, and cells. It involves injuries, surgeries, and treatments/medications. There is so much that can be said to support the fact the psychology is a science. Much more than can be said about scientology and economics.
god damnit that argument is so bs and you know it they do not have any tests you would fail this debate real early, the point is, this pseudoscience is in practice my point is that it is so young it shouldn't be used at this point i mean shit sociology has been around much longer Im sure some animal specialist could out school you as well in similar studies, I actually did some intriguing research as it being societies replacement for slavery timeline matches up and so did the abuse.
This is just too amusing for words. A theist attacking a science (even if it is a social science) with accusations of being unreliable is like Jerry Falwell attacking the US constitution for making too many references to god. Don't you have anything better to do than make an ass of yourself? Maybe defend the planet from aliens or something?
Actually, it was not a dodge. It was an attempt to point out a particularly telling and relevant irony. However, as this effort was apparently lost on you: What science does not have "varying conclusions"? That is what makes science vibrant; dissent, argument, debate and disagreement. There is no such animal as a science without a difference of opinion.
Actually, it was an attempt to point out a particularly telling and relevant irony. However, as this effort was apparently lost on you: What science does not have "varying conclusions"? That is what makes science vibrant; dissent, argument, debate and disagreement. There is no such animal as a science without a difference of opinion.
It is a religion a bunch of deattached people judging others follow one thing but never showing this cure and then debating it to turn it around its a god damn cult of thieving doctors holding hands with big pharma fuck scientology I won't be judged by you or god I had my overactive imagination taken away so weakling could steal my throne how dare these insolent coward stand where they are.
Anytime the scientific method is applied, science is bieng done. Some psychological research is scientific and some isn't. The contention that there are no testable models or theories in psychology is patently false, as any serious review of the literature demonstrates. Just look up predicitive mathematical models for dopamine functioning, for example. The firing rates of individual dopaminergic neurons respond very much in line with prediction.
A science needs testable models and theories; pscyhology has virtually none of these, or at least the ones it has are hardly reliable and vary accordingly. That makes it a type of pseudoscience surely?
BTW, I understand the distain that the mis-spelling of the 'Psycho' in my name will provoke, but I assure you; it is supposed to be there.
Just because Psych does not have a universal single paradigm does not mean it is not scientific. Biology and other sciences are split into many other schools as well.
Regarding it being an art, I can only think of that applying to therapy and no other experimentation as experiments are not artful but scientific and follow a strict procedure and review from the scienctific community before it could be considered valid.
Broadly speaking, psychology is a domain which takes its subjects from areas of biology, sociology, philosophy, physics and chemistry. There really is no classification of 'psychology' as a domain in it's own right. This argument will continue to cycle as people to classify a subject that uses the diciplines of an art and a science together - therefore it can NEVER be truely scientific, in the sense that variables are never going to be completely isolated and controlled.
Results of psychological experiments have to be statistically viable with less than a percent of probable doubt. Just like any science, psychology uses the inductive-deductive cycle to test quantifiable variables, accounting for threats to internal validity.
This is FAR removed from the pseudo-philosophical writings of Freud that the world seems to identify as "psychology."
If you have ever actually read scientific journals in psychology, you'd see readily that there is far more objectivity than common sense notions of human nature that plague human attribution.
FYI Psychology is an Art and a just little bit of Science a liitle bit cause most of its theories were develop by different psychologist meaning not embodied as one body of thesis which you can call science.
this kid has been reading all the wrong books, what hope has he got of obtaining an objective view of the world. I just hope he doesn't understand the script he's reading from
This sucks! The kid just had to learn some phrases and repeat them in front of a camera. 'Cause, do you really think he's understanding what he's saying? Of course not.
I dare you to say that to a Psychologist. They are very strong on the idea it is a science and no matter what will always see as such. It all started back in 1879, when Wilhelm Wundt thought up the idea that the human mind might be able to be looked at in a scientific means.
A science is the practice of intellectual observation and experimentation, which is what Pschology does, they use the same methods as every other science. Now all information from this subject before 1879, is probably bull, but after Wilhelm Wundt started using the scientific method and others followed. Also Psychology isn't very old, and when other sciences like Astronomy started up there are a lot of critics. Philosophy -> Psychology / Astrology -> Astronomy
Yeah, Phrenology had a lot of critics too. Having critics doesn't mean you're rebellious. A science needs testable models and theories, of which pscyhology has virtually zero. That makes it pseudoscience. If "intellectual observation and experimentation" is all it takes to be qualified as science, then me chewing an entire pack of gum is science too.
That's the same with all sciences. try telling astronomer that astronomy is not a science. You may say that he can scientifically show you that it is, but if you have been in Psychology down to the specifics they could in turn show scientifically that it to is a science.
and the inferences that follow from them are valid means of obtaining knowledge that can be called scientific) so much as just setting out a bunch of requirements and asserting that it fulfills them, but hey I studied philosophy and not psychology (at least formally).
Neither do I agree with the insinuation that psychology is based on a world view that is responsible for the violent world we live in nor do I intend to harp on a kid with intellectual interests (so much as whoever wrote his script), but he doesn't actually prove that psychology fulfills the criterion of establishing a field as scientific (or that those premises
Everything he said is NOT true. Psychology is not a science, it is based on incorrect assumptions about human nature and is the product of a world view that also created the violent world we live in. Hardly ideal, far from objective
It is considered an official sceince, but like many other sciences it takes a while for something to finally get steady, I mean it's only about a 127 year old science. Man I said science a lot, sorry about that.
your brothers scary...that was reminescant of The Outer Limit on Channel102. Does just living in Cambridge make yall smart? If so, i should move there.
ha lol
fenderiscool 3 years ago
the branch of behaviorism and cognitive neuroscience both with objective ends, gestalt psychology does produce objective ends however its means are subjective which does not reduce its credit at all same goes for constructionism
Voltajavi 3 years ago
Could it be a possible way to control people?
DemonosZXZ 3 years ago
bet you got an a in the end anyway, heh
i'm sitting my psychology paper ina few weeks for A2 level...
Your dad would be pretty helpful right now.
I'm also procrastinating... meantr to be writing some psychology coursewok.
coincedence?
kier17 3 years ago
smart people thx dude i had to do a project on that
Deadboy251 4 years ago
Mitchell and Jolley discuss the question of whether psychology is a science in the first chapter of their text 'Research Design Explained' (3rd Edition). Their conclusions support the claim that psychology is a science. They discuss the facts that psychology produces objective evidence that can be replicated (replicated with the same success as physics and chemistry experiments).
tam155 4 years ago
Scientists and mathematicians often have poor communication skills because they try to apply their quantification based perception to human behaviour, which of course doesn't work very well.
robag88 4 years ago
Psychology also frequently attempts to quantify human behaviour with numerical values, percentages, statistics etc. If you strike ten pool balls with a stick in the same way under the same conditions you can calculate in advance what the reactions will be. If you poke ten people with a stick in the exact same way their responses will vary incredibly. Even the same individual being poked with a stick on ten occasions will have varied responses.
robag88 4 years ago
However if you poke 20,000 people with a stick, you'll find that a certain percentage of people with a stick in the exact same conditions, you'll find that the responses vary predictably. You'll find that over time percentages of people with certain reactions will crop up, percentages which will be more established as more are tested.
A person is unpredictable, because individuality makes almost all people outliers in at least a few respects. People as a group, are predictable.
AdumbroDeus 4 years ago
You can get rough estimates but they aren't very reliable. For example, dress the person holding the stick in a dominatrix outfit then do the whole experiment again and put the stick in the hand of a huge body builder - I thik the results will drastically differ.
Also the results will drastically differ per 20,000 people based on culture - Eg Japan and Texas.
robag88 4 years ago
Psychology tries to be a science. Under scientific test conditions you halt all variables except the one you're testing so that any changes can be directly attributed to the variable you altered. This is very difficult to do with people because they are constantly acting as a whole organism and responding to a multitude of stimuli.
robag88 4 years ago
Yes psychology is definitely a science! The study of the brain is similar to the study of the rest of the human body. A part from the theories that attempt to explain human behaviour, psychology includes the study of neurons and neural pathways, as well as DNA, and cells. It involves injuries, surgeries, and treatments/medications. There is so much that can be said to support the fact the psychology is a science. Much more than can be said about scientology and economics.
SaraBella1986 4 years ago
You mean neuropsychology ??? Still in its infancy.
robag88 4 years ago
god damnit that argument is so bs and you know it they do not have any tests you would fail this debate real early, the point is, this pseudoscience is in practice my point is that it is so young it shouldn't be used at this point i mean shit sociology has been around much longer Im sure some animal specialist could out school you as well in similar studies, I actually did some intriguing research as it being societies replacement for slavery timeline matches up and so did the abuse.
DemonosZXZ 3 years ago
If psychology is a science, how come so many varying conclusions about the same things?
Psyche (Spirit) Ology (Study of) Psychology, as a subject, denies the existnce of the human soul and focusses on the brain and body...
ScientologyWisdom 4 years ago
This is just too amusing for words. A theist attacking a science (even if it is a social science) with accusations of being unreliable is like Jerry Falwell attacking the US constitution for making too many references to god. Don't you have anything better to do than make an ass of yourself? Maybe defend the planet from aliens or something?
JoeNietzsche 4 years ago
Way to dodge. I guess if you don't have a straight answer you can deflect around and change the subject.
ScientologyWisdom 4 years ago
Actually, it was not a dodge. It was an attempt to point out a particularly telling and relevant irony. However, as this effort was apparently lost on you: What science does not have "varying conclusions"? That is what makes science vibrant; dissent, argument, debate and disagreement. There is no such animal as a science without a difference of opinion.
JoeNietzsche 4 years ago
Actually, it was an attempt to point out a particularly telling and relevant irony. However, as this effort was apparently lost on you: What science does not have "varying conclusions"? That is what makes science vibrant; dissent, argument, debate and disagreement. There is no such animal as a science without a difference of opinion.
JoeNietzsche 4 years ago
yes, it is a science... Study of the mind..
mobdarkomen 4 years ago
about as much of a science as scientology or economics....
but what do you think? what is your opinion?
asolomon12 4 years ago
for your information, both hands are using playing a cello.
ponnepudel 4 years ago
psychology is too broad to classify. Please check my videos out!! thanks
myhouseofsoul 4 years ago
Yes psychology is a science.
Juggaloserialeater 4 years ago
its better then scientology
wasupi355 4 years ago
It is a religion a bunch of deattached people judging others follow one thing but never showing this cure and then debating it to turn it around its a god damn cult of thieving doctors holding hands with big pharma fuck scientology I won't be judged by you or god I had my overactive imagination taken away so weakling could steal my throne how dare these insolent coward stand where they are.
DemonosZXZ 3 years ago
Reserve me a visit, professor.
MartinLoronzo 4 years ago
Anytime the scientific method is applied, science is bieng done. Some psychological research is scientific and some isn't. The contention that there are no testable models or theories in psychology is patently false, as any serious review of the literature demonstrates. Just look up predicitive mathematical models for dopamine functioning, for example. The firing rates of individual dopaminergic neurons respond very much in line with prediction.
Zeldovich 4 years ago
Strange, strange video...
A science needs testable models and theories; pscyhology has virtually none of these, or at least the ones it has are hardly reliable and vary accordingly. That makes it a type of pseudoscience surely?
BTW, I understand the distain that the mis-spelling of the 'Psycho' in my name will provoke, but I assure you; it is supposed to be there.
CallMePsyco 4 years ago
that kid doesn't even know how to play cello!
amandamoox 4 years ago
Just because Psych does not have a universal single paradigm does not mean it is not scientific. Biology and other sciences are split into many other schools as well.
Regarding it being an art, I can only think of that applying to therapy and no other experimentation as experiments are not artful but scientific and follow a strict procedure and review from the scienctific community before it could be considered valid.
There is also validation and replicability.
tamlac00 4 years ago
Broadly speaking, psychology is a domain which takes its subjects from areas of biology, sociology, philosophy, physics and chemistry. There really is no classification of 'psychology' as a domain in it's own right. This argument will continue to cycle as people to classify a subject that uses the diciplines of an art and a science together - therefore it can NEVER be truely scientific, in the sense that variables are never going to be completely isolated and controlled.
jamie2k04 4 years ago
Results of psychological experiments have to be statistically viable with less than a percent of probable doubt. Just like any science, psychology uses the inductive-deductive cycle to test quantifiable variables, accounting for threats to internal validity.
This is FAR removed from the pseudo-philosophical writings of Freud that the world seems to identify as "psychology."
crake01 4 years ago
If you have ever actually read scientific journals in psychology, you'd see readily that there is far more objectivity than common sense notions of human nature that plague human attribution.
crake01 4 years ago
FYI Psychology is an Art and a just little bit of Science a liitle bit cause most of its theories were develop by different psychologist meaning not embodied as one body of thesis which you can call science.
killahbong 4 years ago
:| You do realist that different *scientists* exist dont you?
Psychology is NOT an art! It's detatable whether it's a science but how can it be an art?
bruisedpetal 4 years ago
this kid has been reading all the wrong books, what hope has he got of obtaining an objective view of the world. I just hope he doesn't understand the script he's reading from
ibis119 4 years ago
Yes!! spread the truth to the nonbelievers!! LOL
GranitW 4 years ago
This sucks! The kid just had to learn some phrases and repeat them in front of a camera. 'Cause, do you really think he's understanding what he's saying? Of course not.
Ocadize 4 years ago
Psychology is a science sort of the same way puking is an art.
BlightyLume 5 years ago
a-fuckin-men to that
goldenzoltan 4 years ago
I dare you to say that to a Psychologist. They are very strong on the idea it is a science and no matter what will always see as such. It all started back in 1879, when Wilhelm Wundt thought up the idea that the human mind might be able to be looked at in a scientific means.
GranitW 4 years ago
They'll always see it as a science regardless of the evidence?? Doesn't sound like a scientific point of view to me!
BlightyLume 4 years ago
A science is the practice of intellectual observation and experimentation, which is what Pschology does, they use the same methods as every other science. Now all information from this subject before 1879, is probably bull, but after Wilhelm Wundt started using the scientific method and others followed. Also Psychology isn't very old, and when other sciences like Astronomy started up there are a lot of critics. Philosophy -> Psychology / Astrology -> Astronomy
GranitW 4 years ago
Yeah, Phrenology had a lot of critics too. Having critics doesn't mean you're rebellious. A science needs testable models and theories, of which pscyhology has virtually zero. That makes it pseudoscience. If "intellectual observation and experimentation" is all it takes to be qualified as science, then me chewing an entire pack of gum is science too.
BlightyLume 4 years ago
That's the same with all sciences. try telling astronomer that astronomy is not a science. You may say that he can scientifically show you that it is, but if you have been in Psychology down to the specifics they could in turn show scientifically that it to is a science.
GranitW 4 years ago
You are homo
ooowatsthat 5 years ago
and the inferences that follow from them are valid means of obtaining knowledge that can be called scientific) so much as just setting out a bunch of requirements and asserting that it fulfills them, but hey I studied philosophy and not psychology (at least formally).
Marsiliusofpadua 5 years ago
Neither do I agree with the insinuation that psychology is based on a world view that is responsible for the violent world we live in nor do I intend to harp on a kid with intellectual interests (so much as whoever wrote his script), but he doesn't actually prove that psychology fulfills the criterion of establishing a field as scientific (or that those premises
Marsiliusofpadua 5 years ago
Everything he said is NOT true. Psychology is not a science, it is based on incorrect assumptions about human nature and is the product of a world view that also created the violent world we live in. Hardly ideal, far from objective
ibis118 5 years ago
It is considered an official sceince, but like many other sciences it takes a while for something to finally get steady, I mean it's only about a 127 year old science. Man I said science a lot, sorry about that.
GranitW 4 years ago
yeah ill get my phd in psychology just to win an argument with you and waste my life doing it so i can win your that great granitw
DemonosZXZ 3 years ago
A-level? Was saying that even necessary? That was cute but unless your talking about a high school pre course that would not have been an A anything.
picpic66 5 years ago
I'd feel better calling Psyc a Science if I got to blow things up. A Level Psyc, pfft, it's a doddle.
Rebbo 5 years ago
is this a boy or a girl? Does it really matter. Look at those lips!
whateveryousaid 5 years ago
I like how he's not even touching the fingerboard when he plays. THAT MAKES IT SILLY TIMES 80
wasyuuchan 5 years ago
What I'm wondering is: <i>where did the cello even come from?</i>
salisburysteak 5 years ago
everything he said...so true.
i love the setting and the cello-thing lol
abrodylover18 5 years ago
good one:)
formatas 5 years ago
now that's just scary.
semourbutts 5 years ago
You mean gay.
mp3ror1 5 years ago
your brothers scary...that was reminescant of The Outer Limit on Channel102. Does just living in Cambridge make yall smart? If so, i should move there.
Keep up the sweetness.
Crob 5 years ago
Hahah...all right then.
InsipidNight 5 years ago