Retroccata and Fuga in D minor - Toccata und fuge in D moll

[PrivateWarrior1]

It is a verity that Bach's music can be represented as a Mathematical function. You just proved to us that not only it is a standard function, but rather a bijective one. You merely found the inverse. Good job.

[Gerar2891]

amm sorry i don't like it :( its like a bad try of a toccata i think

[organcomposer]

@Gerar2891

Some people like it very much, other like you do not enjoy at all. Thanks for your comment. I never remove criticism, it is allway useful to improve my work.

[Gerar2891]

@organcomposer yes Sir That was my porpose to exchange opions anyway a disagree in something could have in big agrees in other topic-

Good Wishes

Gerar-

[agger382]

It is a completely different work that has a very modern listening.

[wurlic300]

It might be fun to transcribe the entire original piece backwards and see what it sounds like.

[minasgekos]

what's the point in this?

[DulcineaVonTobosa]

@minasgekos This question also occured to me :) Somehow it does not sound right...

[GaryGP40]

Interesting interpretation and realization. I never quite realized how well Bach could be performed in variation to the original notes and still be so beautiful. Truly a genius of a very high magnitude!! Your interpretation is amazing!

[yoelbenyehuda]

Fantastic. Bach wrote many Crab Canons and pieces that could be played upside down as well as backwards. The beauty of His work is that is is accessible from anywhere...

[kingleoric100]

wow i loved it, i would love to play this piece

[roowkool]

amazing idea! would love to try it out!

[roowkool]

Amazing Idea!! Would Love to give it a try.... you have the scores?

[SlanevskyDrums]

GREAT COMPOSITION!!!

[bachkirche]

What tool did you use to make this video?

[organcomposer]

@bachkirche

I have used 3 tools for that :

Harmony-Assistant (Myriad online) to play and display the score

camstudio (freeware) to film the score displayed on my screen

windows moviemaker to mix music and pictures

I used also myorgan (now grandorgue) to produce the organ sounds,

midiyoke to link harmony-assistant to Myorgan

and Sir 1001 to add the reverb

[Haniel93]

A very interesting version :) I like it, as well as many others of your pieces. I subbed this week :D

[nicholas8912]

This is a work of a TRUE artist.

[presleyrocks1231]

this is totally not bach

[Bruceforge]

Beautiful, but not as glorious as Bach's Toccata and Fugue. It's just a rip off of a truly beautiful song.

[Sword1479]

@Bruceforge You mean piece.

[Bruceforge]

@Sword1479 Yes, but I don't really care that much to be picky.

Good for you for being specific.

Technically a composition is art so it could be defined as a song. A piece of art or "song".

song defined as:

a piece of music, usually employing a verbal text, composed for the voice, esp one intended for performance by a solo

[marston5000]

Cool!! I like this. I can listen and follow along watching the notes fly by. i wonder what all the marks mean other than the notes?

Thank you. Keep it up.

[rolbern3]

bravo ! très intéressant ! il suffit de se laisser bercer

[Szhenrik94]

This is really coool:D

[Tomr971]

Super! Vraiment incroyable! Vos compositions sont toutes magnifiques, merveilleuses, sans exception. La version de Bach vaut celle la! Elles sont toutes deux très belle. La version de Bach a été très bien refaite. Bravo!!

[vetreria]

not bad

[QueenAnnesFury]

Very fun to watch! Thank you!

[parquar]

It was cool but obviously the original piece wasn't written for the intent of making it inverted or w/e so it would work better if you made a set of mirror fugues yourself some time

[organcomposer]

If you mean that you would like I write my own mirror fugue, I can do it. But later because I have several works to do or to complete before. Thanks for your subscription.

[parquar]

As a means of tribute, you could find some of your favorite Bach subjects and, taking from that, make a pair of mirror fugues. The inversion would be there and you would have more freedom to make it work with less constraints. That's what I meant, but anyway, I appreciate your taste in fugues. With every part being equal, the music has much more liveliness and depth

[organcomposer]

Please, select a fugue of Bach's organ work whose mirror you would like to hear. I cannot promise but I'll try to do it for you. But not before 2 weeks because I will not be at home. JP

[parquar]

@organcomposer well I was saying like a set of two where one will have the original subject but be entirely different otherwise in a way to enable the mirror to sound just as good. I think the second subject from Contrapunctus XIV would be cool.

[organcomposer]

I will try if I can get some free time enough to do that. But I do not promise it, I have a lot of things to do. It is 03h00 and I am not yet in my bed

[trainz10]

I enjoyed the piece :), I would like to know how and where to get sheet music of this.

[Kwanelauda]

:P d:

[calisienis]

Amazing

[Edenhyde246]

you're a genius, this is fantastic

[zszsanna]

@ch252525 - oh I feel sorry for you.... :P

[energia321]

WOW :)

[organcomposer]

I invite you to study both scores and to compare them. The retroccata, played back to front, as could do easily a sequencer would be effectively horrible. I proceed otherwise, I invert the measures one by one or by small groups. Llinking these measures harmoniously is a very difficult exercise, but I think I have reached there, without the help of the devil.

[Kwanelauda]

God reveals!! :D

[anisometropie]

when you reverse the sens it doesn't mean anything any longer

[organcomposer]

What I do is much more difficult that playing the music backward. It needs hours of job. May be you do not like, but many peoples enjoy.

J-P

[HerrWarja]

I did a similar thing as an assignment in compositionclass where we had to use Beethovens theme from his 5th symphony 4th mov. I simply turned the theme to make a constracting theme.

[Kraviotho]

that French composer who rewritted the original toccata and fugue, is a Genius!

[Deathization]

the composer that wrote the original is even more of a genius

[Xear0]

un sujet peut etre interprete de milles facons differentes, et la votre est tres satisfaisante. la correspondance entre les notes et les voix est plus recherchee que Bach pour bwv 565, mais je pense que vous etes dans l'exces de la perfection. je ne suis pas musicien mais je pense qu'il est fondamental que la musique soit ecoutable avec des voix simples, mais arrangees dune telle facon que chaque ecoute laisse une impression davoir saute un detail.

ceci dit jaime beacoup vos aures compositions.

[01jocooper]

Interesting how voice leading works both ways, though the chord progressions not necessarily. Very interesting... the only real beauty is Bach's harmony though... and I don't think you can take credit for that.

[fireblade8577]

What program did you do?

[organcomposer]

I have employed the french music notation software Harmony-Assistant (from Myriad-online) and performed the music with a virtual organ : MyOrgan (from Kloria).

[jrssjdca]

Bach's music, whether played inverted or backwards is still awe-inspiring.

[igorstrav1972]

That was so cool!

[florianchurch]

Fantastic idea:)

[Turmendia]

A very interesting version. I had never though that a thing like this would be possible. I think it's a good work. Melody fluctuations and harmony process respect the style.

It's like an alternative Bach. It sounds weird for my ears a piece that is the T & F, but really it isn't at all! I like this strange sensation.

Congratulations.

[Reverstar]

is almos as beautiful as the original.. but

[Szwisztak222]

Realy good rewritting. BRAVO :)

[chandros]

Well done, you would have to be made of stone not to enjoy this. A different and fascinating 'take' on such a wellknown piece of Bach. As I play the original I would love to include this version in a concert, perhaps side by side. That should cause plenty of comment!! Yes please, I would like a copy of the score.

[organcomposer]

No problem for the score

I can send it to you if you give me your e-mail.

The score is 10 pages in PDF, but i can print it in an other format if you need (i am afraid in 10 pages the notes are a little small).

[PointyTail]

JP, I'm an old friend of Glenn Gould. And he would have flipped over what you have posted on Youtube. Keep it up!

[organcomposer]

hello. See again the first pictures of the video, it is written.

JPV

[brekkia]

In my opinion the fuge sounds better (more baroque) with an f# at the end. However, you're the composer and you decide what to write...

Nice work!

P.S.: I will look in your web site for the score.

[organcomposer]

Thanks for your comment.

It's not too late to change in the PDF score the last chord into a D major chord, but not in the video.

The score will be on my site in a few hours.

[ChalieChaplin]

C'est magnifique et genial!!! C'est superlatif!!! Mes felicitations!!! Salut!

[organcomposer]

Of course this work is inspired from Bach toccata, same number of bars, same skeleton, but new melody and new harmonies.

[organcomposer]

The score is not quite ready. please give me a mail adress or wait for the score to be published on my web site.

[Roselyne18]

Merci Jean-Paul pour cette excellente interprétation de cette merveilleuse oeuvre aux Grandes Orgues de la Cathédrale de Bourges qui est ma ville de naissance !

Merci à Vladimir Kacharov d'apprécier les musiciens de notre pays en espérant un jour le rencontrer à Bourges !

Bien amicalement , Rosy ♪ ♫

[kacharov]

Congratulations Jean-Paul!! 5 stars for you, this is one of the best works I ever heard!! Bach would be proud of you!. Thank you very much J-P, Proud of France

[kacharov]

Félicitations Jeanb-Paul! 5 étoiles pour vous, c'est l'une des meilleures œuvres que j'ai jamais entendu!! Bach serait fier de vous!. Merci beaucoup J-P fierté de la France!!