dr. sun yat sen is the father of china. too bad he died so young :o( i remember seeing this picture hanged in the main wall of costa rica's chinese association. however, since the commies started diplomatic ties with costa rica, his picture was taken down.
but the most sad thing is, then China was took over by Communist part, the rest ideal of democracy of Sun's could only accomplish in Taiwan which is nowaday Republic of China at. Poor.
Sun actually want one thing when asking communists to help, he want China to have multiple party so democracy can take place. CCP on the left and KMT on the right, one stand for workers and other stand for businesses. The problem is other leaders like Chiang and Mao never want to share or save their nation but rather simply want to create a paradise just for themselves.
@Balencian and because no capitalist system is ever meant to be fair, this division showed that neither are willing to cede power. not only so, chinese culture demonstrated that multiparty doesn't work in its history of politics, which is why we see what we see today. of course what tomorrow brings is another question, but it definitely will be far.
it is extremely sad that like Lenin, Dr. Sun's vision for a new China which is a true democracy for all Chinese descendants, were ruined by Chiang, and then Mao.
@HKExperimentalman and let's put it this way. if china is democratic today, china will be a big6 place with a corrupted democratic government and people that has low moral standards, and fighting each other (like the '20s or india today). but if china is democratic in the future, chinese ppl will be educated, proper, mannered, strong, developed, rich, cultured, have good morals, and can truly understand and grasp the system of chinese democracy. it's a better result, so it's all worth the wait.
He could have stay in America and enjoy a peaceful rich life. He was a medical doctor. Think about the sacrafice to help China. Greatest Chinese ever.
I disagreed, he might not done anything directly, but his ideals inspired the people of the city. When I was small, I heard a lot of stories about Sun Yat Sen and his ideals that is very inspirational. Same stories was told to my father and grandfather's generation and they are the one that built HK.
You do not need to make a direct impact but your actions can inspire. Look at people like Sakamoto Ryoma, Benjamin Franklin, Aristotle...etc
Looks like you rally don't understand why China become so rich nowadays.
It's because the political party of Dr. Sun Yat-Sen was "kicked" away from China and the evil Mao and the Communism got power. Today, the modern China is just a rich country with crazy Communism. Although that was not much compared to the period of the Cultural Revolution, most of the people neither living in a good economical situation nor under protection from the governement.
@2a12919 Oh spare me your shenanigan. You can't call it a pure communism... its just another Modern dynasty, If I'm not mistaken China will always be Chinese.
disregarding the government ideals... it runs a psuedo Dynasty complex :P
and FO YOOOO INFOMAAAATIONNNNN MY FELLOW YELLOW MANG.
I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUCK... Sun Yat Sen took interest in the study of Marxism as well :P I mean... he even requested aid from the Soviets :P
beijing/peking/whatever was the site of the forbidden city, a great source of national pride. Any republican mass movement would've had a bastard of a time formalising a new capital, especially if they had dubbed themselves the national revolutionary party (KMT) or the people's liberation army (CCP).
Too bad, most Chinese just don't listen. When Chinese leaders got power they rather concentrate and use it for themselves instead of other people. Even till today...how sad...especially how Sun Yat-Sen have alrdy paved the road to Chinese democracy by 1920s.
Democracy was never achieved in China. Sun Yat Sen never lived long to see a united China nor a China that have warlords removed. Sun's successor Chiang Kai Shek is more or less a dictator which run a dictatorship under the pretext it is a democracy. The guy who defeated him, Mao Tse Tung, is another dictator, who run a dictatorship under the pretext it is for the people, but in reality a nutshell just for himself.
but you have to know 5000 years of our history in which the state was/ is the suprem and no other orginization had never share the power with the state
@Balencian don't worry. current chinese society is rather disappointing, but many others like sun, didn't lose hope. it's a mental breakdown to be reminded of what's happening right now, but in the near future, you will be convinced your hopes can be invested again=)
I'm a chinese kid and my task was to write a report about sun yet san and I had hard time finding information about him in English because I really just study in a international school. So thanks for helping : P!!!!
he was actually born in china and at the age of thirteen went to live with his brother who lived in honolulu and was prospering as a merchant. he later received a hawaiian certificate of birth that said he was 4 years younger than he truly was.
if he could lived to 1949，i bet he would support chairman mao
thomaswayne8 1 day ago
dr. sun yat sen is the father of china. too bad he died so young :o( i remember seeing this picture hanged in the main wall of costa rica's chinese association. however, since the commies started diplomatic ties with costa rica, his picture was taken down.
cometaaalii 1 month ago
but the most sad thing is, then China was took over by Communist part, the rest ideal of democracy of Sun's could only accomplish in Taiwan which is nowaday Republic of China at. Poor.
nien0406 1 month ago
No revolution of 1911, no Communist party, no Communist party, no new China.
No Sun Yat Sen, no Mao Zedong, no Mao Zedong, no new China.
AtheismCentral 2 months ago
@ComradeMing
Sun actually want one thing when asking communists to help, he want China to have multiple party so democracy can take place. CCP on the left and KMT on the right, one stand for workers and other stand for businesses. The problem is other leaders like Chiang and Mao never want to share or save their nation but rather simply want to create a paradise just for themselves.
Balencian 3 months ago
@Balencian and because no capitalist system is ever meant to be fair, this division showed that neither are willing to cede power. not only so, chinese culture demonstrated that multiparty doesn't work in its history of politics, which is why we see what we see today. of course what tomorrow brings is another question, but it definitely will be far.
ravan318 3 months ago
3 words: great, chinese, ever
ravan318 5 months ago
Too bad his followers have split up into two camps that hate each others guts.
Frasssaanarchy 5 months ago
Sun Yat-Sen is Masonic VIP 25D
Transfinite0universe 5 months ago
Sun Yat-Sen is king
rrrgovernment01 8 months ago
another gun using mass murder thief
he is the better out of all the bad guys.
SpicyHam 9 months ago
thats ma boooooiiii :D
bchen9 1 year ago
He was just a drifter.
Sungeicock 1 year ago
it is extremely sad that like Lenin, Dr. Sun's vision for a new China which is a true democracy for all Chinese descendants, were ruined by Chiang, and then Mao.
senzun88 1 year ago
偉大的孫中山先生安息吧！
禍國央民的共產黨必定會滅忘！中國人會重獲真正的尊嚴！
HKExperimentalman 1 year ago
@HKExperimentalman don't worry, democratic china, before we die, guaranteed!
ravan318 5 months ago
@ravan318 承你貴言!!!
HKExperimentalman 5 months ago
@HKExperimentalman and let's put it this way. if china is democratic today, china will be a big6 place with a corrupted democratic government and people that has low moral standards, and fighting each other (like the '20s or india today). but if china is democratic in the future, chinese ppl will be educated, proper, mannered, strong, developed, rich, cultured, have good morals, and can truly understand and grasp the system of chinese democracy. it's a better result, so it's all worth the wait.
ravan318 5 months ago
He could have stay in America and enjoy a peaceful rich life. He was a medical doctor. Think about the sacrafice to help China. Greatest Chinese ever.
noformstyle 1 year ago
@noformstyle you serious? Asians were treated like shit back then. There were no equal rights and if Sun stayed there he will be far worse
spike378 5 months ago
Dr. Sun Yat Sen, a nationalist from China
Dr. Jose Rizal, a freedom fighter from philippines.
RevolutionistHenkel 1 year ago
Its alll about genghis khan
kishaba1980 1 year ago 2
Dr.Sun a great man, a modern Chinese hero! The father of the Chinese nation!
Mao & Chiang put together don't make a Dr.Sun!
Dragonzrkool88 1 year ago
It showed Hong Kong HAHA, but he didnt really do anything to improve Hong Kong
168chanism 1 year ago
@168chanism
I disagreed, he might not done anything directly, but his ideals inspired the people of the city. When I was small, I heard a lot of stories about Sun Yat Sen and his ideals that is very inspirational. Same stories was told to my father and grandfather's generation and they are the one that built HK.
You do not need to make a direct impact but your actions can inspire. Look at people like Sakamoto Ryoma, Benjamin Franklin, Aristotle...etc
Balencian 3 months ago
gangsta
TheGreenSmoke 1 year ago
China is Strong today, because of Sun Yat Sen... He is the Embodiment of Pan Asian Ideal which the foolish japanese government fail to realize.
JBXyooj 2 years ago 13
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No！Dr. Sun Yat Sen is the National father of Republic of China in Taiwan!!
ichirokaku 1 year ago
@JBXyooj
And FUCK MAO AND CHIANG they ruined what SUN succeeded
168chanism 1 year ago
@168chanism Now now... all Leaders of a Nation will eventually screw the founding ideals of their nation... I mean look at America. lol
JBXyooj 1 year ago
@JBXyooj
Looks like you rally don't understand why China become so rich nowadays.
It's because the political party of Dr. Sun Yat-Sen was "kicked" away from China and the evil Mao and the Communism got power. Today, the modern China is just a rich country with crazy Communism. Although that was not much compared to the period of the Cultural Revolution, most of the people neither living in a good economical situation nor under protection from the governement.
2a12919 1 year ago
@2a12919 Oh spare me your shenanigan. You can't call it a pure communism... its just another Modern dynasty, If I'm not mistaken China will always be Chinese.
disregarding the government ideals... it runs a psuedo Dynasty complex :P
and FO YOOOO INFOMAAAATIONNNNN MY FELLOW YELLOW MANG.
I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUCK... Sun Yat Sen took interest in the study of Marxism as well :P I mean... he even requested aid from the Soviets :P
JBXyooj 1 year ago
beijing/peking/whatever was the site of the forbidden city, a great source of national pride. Any republican mass movement would've had a bastard of a time formalising a new capital, especially if they had dubbed themselves the national revolutionary party (KMT) or the people's liberation army (CCP).
ReverendParasite 2 years ago
Too bad, most Chinese just don't listen. When Chinese leaders got power they rather concentrate and use it for themselves instead of other people. Even till today...how sad...especially how Sun Yat-Sen have alrdy paved the road to Chinese democracy by 1920s.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian
but what did democracy brought to China?
warlord, foriegn invasion, civilwar, poverty, weak goverment, corruption, hyperinflation
100000000years 1 year ago
@100000000years
Democracy was never achieved in China. Sun Yat Sen never lived long to see a united China nor a China that have warlords removed. Sun's successor Chiang Kai Shek is more or less a dictator which run a dictatorship under the pretext it is a democracy. The guy who defeated him, Mao Tse Tung, is another dictator, who run a dictatorship under the pretext it is for the people, but in reality a nutshell just for himself.
Balencian 1 year ago
@Balencian
but you have to know 5000 years of our history in which the state was/ is the suprem and no other orginization had never share the power with the state
100000000years 1 year ago
@Balencian man dies, but legacy lives on. he will get there, because we will
ravan318 5 months ago
@ravan318
I give up already, I will be happy if i see a democratic Hong Kong. Forget the shell, save the spirit.
Balencian 3 months ago
@Balencian don't worry. current chinese society is rather disappointing, but many others like sun, didn't lose hope. it's a mental breakdown to be reminded of what's happening right now, but in the near future, you will be convinced your hopes can be invested again=)
ravan318 3 months ago
@100000000years
Wrong grammar
it should be what did democracy bring to China.
That's not democracy, that's from Yuan's restoration of imperialism.
168chanism 1 year ago
@100000000years
Democracy was never achieved in China.
Sun Yat Sen's successor, Chiang Kai Shek was a dictator, and never followed Sun's ideal principles.
Phead128 1 year ago
Though he wished Nanjing to be the capital of China but the Chinese people for some reason just moved it to Beijing....
CyberGreat13 2 years ago
I'm a chinese kid and my task was to write a report about sun yet san and I had hard time finding information about him in English because I really just study in a international school. So thanks for helping : P!!!!
CyberGreat13 2 years ago
he was actually born in china and at the age of thirteen went to live with his brother who lived in honolulu and was prospering as a merchant. he later received a hawaiian certificate of birth that said he was 4 years younger than he truly was.
frankkalani 2 years ago
中華民國 ＝ TAIWAN
jih35 2 years ago
Taiwan's not even a state, Those Taiwanese were Chinese, but moved to Taiwan and lived there.
lol02468 2 years ago
永遠的國父孫中山
locomofo99 2 years ago
May he rest in peace, his vision of modern, strong, and nationalistic China will soon come true.
rocproc1010101 2 years ago
A true hero
BVargas78 3 years ago 25
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@BVargas78 廣東孫大砲在獻世浪費糧食時,終日為赤匪張目而種下共匪日益擴大為禍中國大半世記直至如今.共匪得天下令數以千萬計人被餓死,鬥死,自殺而死.
更甚的是-全国人口大部份人因共匪從五零代初發起種種運動而失学,浪費青春,妻离子散等等...... 中國文化己如鏡花水月,消失於赤匪洪流.共匪如今手握百萬雄兵,盡收天下錢財,得盡天下患民族主義妄想症華人之心.相信共匪還可穩坐龍位一千年.孫大砲思想何德何能舆共匪畜養之城管,武警等等管治机器抬愩？照阿拉來看就算有十萬手持.AK47廣東孫大砲再世也佛得動共匪分毫.孫大砲思想只是大陸式盜版之美國建國論.此人有何偉大.相對來說,蔣介石總統比他偉大而對真中國有汗馬功勞.雖然他失敗於種種原因但世事
fgah 1 year ago