@Shaitan051 I joke about that a lot actually when we talk about these issues because I know I look older, but born in '83, I'll skip the apathy though I still want that mixtape if you have it.
Yes, we feel you knocking on the door...the door of our vacant rental home looking for a place to live cheap so you can keep pumping your misspent savings into the Apple corporation. By the way, Dr. Phil wants to know... "How's that working for you?"
Sorry honey, we're the majority. Sorry. If we are not a baby boomer, we are a child of a baby boomer, a brother of a baby boomer, a sister of a baby boomer, or a parent of a baby boomer or a grand child of a baby boomer. WE rule.
CynicallyTested, you have some funny points, but you easily gloss over a HUGE Millennial Generation flaw: The insatiable willingness of Millies to gobble up the 21st-century purely-for-profit, ear-rape music being pushed on them by the Boomers colluding with Gen-X....Now is *that* being a pliable, brain-dead robot or what!?!?
What does "pass the torch" mean? Are you saying all Boomers and Gen X'rs should just quit their jobs, roll over and die? Sure, if a Boomer or X'r can afford to retire early, more power to them. There's some kind of myth that Boomers are well off. I don't really know any personally that are--I do from the generation prior to Boomers. The only way to make it is to be in business for yourself.
From Gen X, if you want the "torch" get it the same way every generation before you has. Light your own fire. Dont look to others for it. Do something of value as a human being, complaining about us is kinda pointless. Gen X had some unique and fucked up challenges just like every generation before and after. That said, much love to the next generations. But so far I am unimpressed with your generations music and art. Come on! You can do better than Lady Gaga.
@BelleNex True dat, but unfortunately that requires something nobody my age has: capital. The folks at the record companies are the ones putting out Gaga. What I have been listening to lately, believe it or not, are songs from the Oh Brother, Where Art Thou sdtrack (listening to songs from the 30s is something I can relate to a lot better given the circumstances of today-I really could care less about whatever paper thin crap is on the radio.)
@BelleNex We do want to create something new, but Boomers own a whole lot of the infrastructure to make it happen. We want to build bullet trains....but Boomer politicians can't agree to put up the dough and companies headed by the Boomers don't want to put any of us in charge (we have more training in CAD and are raring to go to try new materials with the latest tech....but Skippy here with the gray hair gets cold feet every time ->
@BelleNex and keeps looking at the Millies like their still in diapers (Skippy, I hate to break it to you, but I am 28 years old. I have long since shed the braces and My Little Pony. I am old enough to run for Congress and old enough to have a child myself. IT IS TIME. I AM READY TO ROCK. Give the plans to me and the X'er, we'll be back in about two weeks with the whole thing planned, ready, and with a surplus in the budget. )
@BelleNex We want much more out of this country, but since we have no income, no job, no assets, we're paralyzed. We can't start new businesses on a Starbucks salary (if we have a job at all.) We can't force radical change if we don't have support from some of our elders. We need somebody to show us the way out, a leader, a General Patton to lead the march and keep us on the ball.
@shadowkitty56 I understand your frustration. Gen X had no leaders to show us the way, no great jobs waiting for us to finish college. Everything our generation has achieved has been on a shoestring and pure piss and vinegar. There is no magic leader, no one to show you the way out. You have to adventure, discover, and create. Each generation has that same obligation. Now its your generations turn to carve out your place in history. Get busy! And good luck!
I give all the love in the world to Gen Y and there's no question you guys are going to do great things for this country. That said, the only mistake most of us X'ers made was believing the Boomers when they told us that loyalty and hard work would be rewarded. Through the cubicle politics, pay cuts, shrinking benefits, outsourcing, and downsizing, we figured they wouldn't do us wrong. Silly fucking us....
Leave the X'ers alone OK? Many of us are only in our 30's and early 40's and your parents (the Boomers) held us back with our careers. I guess you forgot at one time we were also called "Slackers"?
I have a challenge for you. If you can talk in such a positive manner about us Millennials and talk trash about the Baby Boomers and Generation X so easily, what about actually pointing out Generation Y's flaws? Do you know about OUR flaws or are you too busy blaming others for our problems? They have their share in our issues, yes, but what about our blame?
@CoolNASCARGuy Well this rant was about knocking down the stereotypes that came up when gen Y first entered the workforce/school - this rant was from a tv series called the what is! where we talked about those issues you mention, but since it was a boomer network they weren't comfortable with free stuff online, so we threw up what we could, perhaps we'll throw some stuff on here from what is still relevant to today.
actually, I am a "late-bloomer boomer" (meaning, I was almost too late to qualify) and I honestly look forward to how your gen makes the changes we all need. Yours is the one who simply will no longer just "put up with" all the garbage that is going on. More power to you.
Dont forget though, we have to eat also, and I really don't think you'd like us to make you pay for our meals-on-wheels! we still have to work for our bread. ;)
The jaguar is a natural desert beastie that called America its home, and aside from enriching the ecosystem it would be a HUGE cash cow for ecotourism. Grand Canyon rakes in a lot of money today. Add the sound of roaring jaguars at night and photos of it drinking from the Colorado River by day and we don't have a natl park, we have a safari.
However, the jaguar has a fence in its way of migrating naturally, a loudmouth bunch of ranchers who don't get it that the West has been won, and old farts at the Dept of Fish and Wildlife with no vision for the future: in 40 years, if trends continue, there will be no jaguars in Northern Mexico and the cat will also be extirpated from large chunks of its normal range: history is repeating itself again (the same thing happened to the tiger in Asia.)
@Sshelly34213 Or how about ideas for the environment? -Do a giant review of all the endangered and threatened liifeforms and come out with something like Operation:Ecosystem. Let the cougar return to the East as we now know they are all one subspecies (it isn't like California is going to miss a few hundred.) Let the wolf and grizzly return to California: California looks stupid when the state flag has a grizzly on it but no grizzlies present since 1922!!
@shadowkitty56 It's absurd, I can't believe how ineffective this generation is at anything ecological. You bring up global warming to anyone in the senate and they go on about how the world will end when God says so. Um. Ok, I can see those who disagree with the science of global warming and where the planet's climate is heading in the future, but these people can't even get to that level. Don't they realize that the world has graduated such thinking? Their thinking is archaic
@Sshelly34213 Don't take it too seriously. I believe in God, but trust me, not all of us who do are totally stupid. I see right through these clowns: they only profess to be Christian because that is who is backing their finance campaign. Any real Christian (or Catholic like me) will tell you that, in the Bible, the Almighty did not take false prophets of His work well and those that acted as such often got in HUUUGE trouble.
@shadowkitty56 Oh I don't think that at all, it's not about belief in God it's about political corruption at the end of the day. These people are manipulating others with their beliefs. They've already been paid off not to do anything about global warming, they're just trying to build up fanbases about these things. Where in the bible does it discuss global warming? These people just pull things out of their asses and wrap in religion and patriotism to convince the masses.
@Sshelly34213 It would seem to me that these Senators are nothing but opportunistic little rats who claim to be Godly but are actually hiding behind a cloak of righteousness to put off the hard work to come. I am a firm believer in science and so was the nun who ran my school as a girl. She told me the story of Galileo & that science is not against God, but cowards are.
@shadowkitty56 To be honest, I just don't find the ideas something I believe, but I have no problem with others who do. I have a huge problem with those who try to manipulate others with it though. It really bothers me to see anyone use people. I think I realized at age 11, the first election of Bush Jr, that my politicians were using religion as a ploy to get people to vote for them. I couldn't imagine how anyone would fall for that or believe that-I was a Catholic then at the time too.
@Sshelly34213 I am a bit older than you and I had to vote in that election. I knew what I saw when I looked at Bush. Here was a guy who was drunk and high half his life and my guess is that at some point the evangelicals got to him, got him 12 stepping. He recovered, and then they decided to call in a favor, y'know, like they do in the Mob. They had their perfect parrot in office. The perfect stooge to get (CONT)
3 @Sshelly34213 Meanwhile, let's take a look at it from another POV: believe it or not, the U.S. is home to one of the big cats: jaguars. Once these cats prowled around California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and possibly southern Nevada and western Louisiana. They were once 1 of the largest carnivores in the lower 48 and would have been able hunters of peccary and bison. In Mexico, at night in some areas, their roar can be heard for miles and goes right through your heart.
@Sshelly34213 Today, the jaguar is increasingly endangered, losing its habitat across the board. Mexico is not a safe place for them anymore: in the Yucatan they are almost gone and in the Sonoran desert, they are shot by ranchers (this is very bad as the wolf, the grizzly, the bison, and the black bear have already disappeared over the course of about 100 years, and the Mexican govt doesn't have the cash or infrastructure to fix this.)
@Sshelly34213 Here in America we have the resources to save the cat: Joshua Tree NP, Big Bend National Park in Texas, and even Grand Canyon has the room and the habitat for these cats to thrive in (they are already under the Endangered Species Act.) All of these areas are rotten with elk, mule deer, bighorn sheep, and peccary for the cat to eat, and have plenty of cover to ambush their prey with.
@Sshelly34213 uber-conservative, mostly Protestant, over the hill white males who are scared of the future voting for their agenda. Some of these men are also very wealthy WASPy types with a lot of influence and not much sense. Anyway, these WASPs couldn't lose: they had a puppet who would destroy the last remaining constraints on corporatism, & who would allow them to do whatever they wanted in Natl Forests. They made a bundle while this was going on.
We need a new generation with new solutions, because it looks like the Boomers, many of them, need a spanking. For the CEO's, I say, "enjoy it while you can, the coffee-you never know which of your younger employees will someday spit in it when you are not looking."
@shadowkitty56 Exactly. I have so many ideas that I would love to offer these people, but they don't want to listen to reason. Whatever happened to companies investing in things like building and development? Wouldn't it be cool if we could build a system of high speed trains all over this country? I saw an article the other day about someone who had an idea to make solar powered roads that could power cities. People have ideas, but they're certainly not boomers.
@Sshelly34213 I can do you one better. How about regulating the internet much like one would a public utility, like the post office?! It is not the place of ISP's to charge us a pound of flesh or block us from use at any time. Nobody is meant to own the internet. Censorship of the internet should be in the hands of parents who want to prevent porno freaks or pervs from getting to the kids and some light monitoring by cops should be in order (CONT)
@shadowkitty56 I totally agree with that, I can't stand censorship of the internet. Youtube is a great example, I should be able to curse on here if I want to. Also, notice how insane censorship of language has become? I was watching an interview on Letterman and someone said the word Christ and it was bleeped....what? How is that a swear? Fuck is a swear, Shit is a swear, but Christ is not a swear.
@Sshelly34213 (To be clear every web browser would have to have a 911 VOIP link that would, in an emergency, put a user in touch with a web savvy policeman within 30 miles of his home in case Merv the Perv shows up. It could save lives and clobber the Mervs of this world, not to mention be useful if you can't get to a phone.)
We need real solutions-who give a shit if Julian Assange leaked loads of documents, the question you should be asking is what do those docs reveal and what do we, the people, ALL OF US, do with that information? (As I recall a man called Deep Throat did something very similar in '72 & Boomers everywhere cheered. Now you go bananas when Assange does it. Assange is a paranoid loon, but that doesn't mean he hasn't hit it lucky this time. Hypocrites.)
@shadowkitty56 Exactly! I find it strange that leaking information about something is seen as evil in this day and age. Why do we have secrets? Why do we need them? Secrecy creates fear all around the world and fear makes people more guarded and ultimately violent.
@Sshelly34213 I can understand some secrets as necessary (nuclear launch codes, the covers of certain CIA agents, etc.) but others I see as unnecessary & otherwise wrong to keep from the public. We have every right to know how our government functions and when that government is keeping one too many secrets from us, the caretakers of our own democracy, it is a step too far and far away from what the founders of this nation wanted.
@Sshelly34213@Sshelly34213 Jefferson said that the people of a nation are the only safe depositories of democracy and that this degenerates when govt. is left to its own devices. I would wager that Boomers in Washington think an awful lot of themselves that they never stop to think that Joe Average on the street might know more than he does and that an open ear to HIM and not BUSINESS is the way out of this mess.
and those that fiddle and expect summer to last forever freeze in the cold. The institutions their parents built are falling apart from neglect & the mindless arguing. Newsflash, Boomers: NOBODY is going to win the Culture Wars! Other bigger problems have priority: the military industrial complex, the plutocratic nature of politics, a media that is interested in making money rather than winning Pulitzers, and oh, say, A GIANT NATL DEBT COUPLED WITH RECESSION!!!
being the last to turn out the light on the dying American dream factory, like an industrialist pig of the past who retired from a sweatshop richer than Croesus but didn't shed a tear for the worker who died poor and used up.
The rest of the Boomers need to jettison Social Security for something new and cheaper. Apparently nobody read to them the story of the Grasshopper and the Ant when they were little. Only those that work and stow away food stay warm and happy when winter comes (CONT)
Boomer CEO's should be taking paycuts and be taken to court: They have a right to earn money, but they don't have the right to horde it or use it to control the country at the expense of others. Their disloyalty to their fellow man has to have a price. In the time of TR Roosevelt, laws were brought in to stop this kind of behavior b/c it was ruining the country...& they need repair & updates to stop these greedy thugs from
Gen Y shouldn't be getting coffee-it is a waste of manpower when we're needed to get the wheels of the US economy grinding NOW. Not in 2 years when we have more experience & when China's economy has grown even bigger. Our elders in X need to get PROMOTED & get the credit they should have gotten eons ago: they are the ones doing the actual engineering on Google and YouTube & actually understand the young when they talk in programming terms!!
the Gen Y workers getting hired often have to do piles of busywork that would ordinarily be done by 2 or 3 people.
Older workers are gonna feel the squeeze w/ a big younger gen coming in willing to work 4 less. Normally X would respond by quitting for other pastures but this is harder when you have kids, a mortgage, and old age coming within 30 years...and a HORRIBLE economy hobbling along.
lol, Generation X is STILL waiting for the selfish asshole Baby Boomers to pass the torch... but that's not gonna happen and when it does, the torch will be burnt out as they move in with us. Sorry to break the news to you, but Generation X is fucked... and Generation Y is TOTALLY fucked
TO YOUNG AMERICANS, the Baby Boomers were NOT the Civil Rights Generation. That shit started when Truman desegregated the military in 1948, and continued through Eisenhower, JFK, and LBJ. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, and the Voting Rights Act in 1965. The people who did the majority of the heavy lifting were our grandparents and The Silent Generation. Boomers are frauds and false prophets. At this point they've got gut rot, and I think it's incurable.
@Zelathago I think my generation is starting to understand that. People like MLK and even whites who fought for civil rights like Pernell Roberts, were from the silent generation. I think it's sad and pathetic that baby boomers managed to steal that title for themselves. If you think about it, they are the generation that got everything. My generation has a lot of kids that grew up with single parents, most of my friends lived in condos and apartments, not houses and I don't live in the big city
Pass you the torch? try earning it. the world owes you nothing.
hey gen y dude. don't blame gen x for this. we're still waitin for the baby boomers to pass the torch too dude and we've earnt it. I hope ur enjoyin all of this tech stuff gen x made for youJust so you know, gen x was named x becuase it was a label with no discription, forgotten, no label required, x will do,who cares attitude. Y is named y because it follows x. baby boomers, the me me me gen, want all the advantage always.
@Sshelly34213 geez you gen y's are clever. yer i did actually say i am from gen x. Why is it that Gen y want to be given everything - now, why is it they feel it is their birthright to be handed everything on a platter. "ooh I;m in gen y so i know more than you so i should be in charge and have all the power and money" wotevs. here's a clue, you don't know everything because you have wikipedia. Go and earn a living and some respect.. yes respect is earned not handed out like halloween candy.
@shanodude We don't, why is it that Generation X is just plain mean to everyone? Really that is the vibe I get from Generation X, they are just mean people who bitter attitudes.
I don't want power and money, I want someone to do their goddamn job and baby boomers have lost that ability somewhere along the way. They can't even run the US Senate. God look at them, they spend their days endlessly bickering to the point where nothing even gets done.
@Sshelly34213 gen x isn't mean to everyone. gen x is still wainting for our turn and already gen y are saying hurry up, that's where the hostility stems from.
@shanodude There is a HUGE amount of hostility in your comments, actually you're the most lenient Xer I have come across.
We're not saying "hurry up,"-although being young and eager, can you blame us?-we're just saying, 'fix stuff because we want to get on with our lives" It's understandable considering the circumstances in which we find ourselves in. Massive debt, failing health care, education, and dilapidated roads and cities. Then there's possible wars, global warming, etc...
@shanodude I'm not going to get used to it, I'm going to try and change this anyway I can. Most of my generation feels this way, so I think we're going to see this go away for awhile.
Boomers invented this absurd caste system where one must start off by doing household chores and then work their way up to asswiping, coffee getting, I mean...what a complete waste of human power. Especially when there is so much that needs to be done! The boomers are wasteful people.
@shanodude What makes you think we "get" everything we want? Most of my friends grew up in apartments and I went to a private school. Divorce rate was 50% when I was growing up, how can you honestly say that Generation Y got everything they wanted? That is a complete blanket statement concerning white anglo saxon America and not even the majority of whites because I'm white myself.
@Sshelly34213 what makes me think this, because gen y want it all now... they don't know what "entry level" means and expect to be earning the same as someone with experience... you should try hiring one.
@shanodude What makes you say that though? I've never met anyone in my age group demanding to be the boss of a company they don't understand. We don't "want it now," we just want to be treated like we deserve to be treated. I don't see why someone with a great deal of credentials should have to make coffee and kiss ass for years.
He LOOKS unemployed? What on earth does that mean, don't you think that's kind of a moronic thing to say? How can someone "look" unemployed?
@Sshelly34213 credemntials aren't everything, experience counts for a great deal. that is why credentials in some areas (like some aprenticeships for eg) can be granted with many years of experience- of 15 or 20 years worth. If you've just started on your way up the ladder, then you had better get used to kissing arse and making coffee - experience will teach you to make bad coffe so no-one asks you to make it again.
@shanodude That is true, but what's the point of going through an education to squander it by getting coffee..these people may have ideas that could benefit you and you're making them get your coffee? How is anything going to get done? You could be missing out on an opportunity to make some money by having someone do your housework. Employers should not be treated like maids, they should be treated as someone who has something to bring to a company...
@Sshelly34213 how does he look unemployed? Maybe i should hae said unemployable. he needs to anunciate and drop the attitude or jobs that include contact with customers will be out, same with bathing - a little soap wouldn't hurt. that bad attitude will ensure his coffe making abilities will be expert. Beginners, credentials or not, should be treated as beginners until they prove themselves, that's how it works. credentials doesn't mean automatic top pay rate but experience probalby will.
@Sshelly34213 i never said anything was perfect. the baby boomers have sucked all the goodness, fun and advantage out of the world and have feathered their nests very nicely. and that dude in the video wants any advantage to skip over people like me so he can get ahead minus the hard work - he doesn't want to earn anything he wants it to be handed to him, he said it himself.
@shanodude These issues are enough to make a person go a bit nuts and say, "Just get out of the way!"
It's not about "skipping over you" it's about working together to get what we both want. Why must one generation be "ahead" of another, is this contest? Why can't we work together as equal partners if we can bring equally good ideas to the table?
Of course the poster exaggerated for humor, you have to recognize that. He wasn't really saying, "get out of the way," it was a joke.
@shanodude I just see certain things as a waste of my time and I want to try and make that change. If you think it's a lost cause, I understand that point of view. I don't by the idea that I am "lazy" or "selfish" for simply having goals and ideas and trying to accomplish them in the world.
@Sshelly34213 look, as soon as the baby boomer fall off the perch and we get a go, yes we'll fix a great deal and those old worn out "old boys" attitudes will flounder and then yes, we can all get a go. I have a 15 year old work expereicne kid attending here 1 or 2 days a week, intern stile, no pay. he's been doing it for only a couple of weeks. He'll make me coffee and some menial jobs for a few more weeks yet to see how keen he still is. gradually increasing duties then he'll learn stuff..
@Sshelly34213 ... learn some stuff n i'll get him to do more... he still is keen, pays attention, very smart and asks lots of questions... GREAT fantastic... a top GEN Y kid. that's a great attitude.
No it's not a contest, but when we've been waiting patiently for our turn moving up the ladder putting in the hard yards with lots of experience and some one with no expereince comes along and says "pick me, it's not fair if you don't" we think, ah yes that's what we thought too at that age.
@shanodude Hey I totally agree with that, I don't think it's fair that Xers never got their due, which is why a lot of Yers want to work with you guys as opposed to compete-as Boomers probably made you guys do.
There are some pathetic people in my generation, Brittney Spears comes to mind, but I believe our greatness has yet to be achieved.
@Sshelly34213 goals are good i'm not knockin that but there's only so many jobs and the best candidate get it usually. understand that there are others that also want the jobs, just because some1 is qualified does not mean the are entitled to the job.
yes cenrtain things are a waste of time but often you have to do them so you can work towards the things you do want just like all b4 u. The billionaire who owns my work started as office & mail boy to a TV exec, worked his way up to it not down.
@shanodude I recognize the reality of the situation, I just still see it as a waste of time and money. Having people get your coffee is still a waste of labor...a monkey can do that, a child could do that!. They...can get their own coffee and save a few bucks..
it just stuns me how utterly pathetic people can become, having people wipe their ass and get their coffee.
@Sshelly34213 by the way, i actually do like most gen Y, all the sub cultures, kids are getting smarter younger.. and are an untapped talent, but the direction has to come from experience, otherwise you are discarding or ignoring alot of learning. I think gen y can make a valuable contribution but yes work with us n stop trying to take it over and NO you can't have it all now.. we all want it all now too but we have patience and earn our way there.
@shanodude I can't argue with that, experience is always the best way to go. I just don't see getting coffee as any type of valuable experience to be obtained. As I said, it's a waste of labor, time, brains, all so some fat cat at the top can continue to stay at the top and make more money. Think of it as procrastination...the boomers procrastinated and that is what kept you from getting your dues. This "you need to get my coffee before you can run this account" attitude.
@Sshelly34213 i can see where you're coming from and i agree it's a little demeaning and a quallified person making coffe isn't ideal but it's not about the coffee, it's like cops who'll bail you up and ask questions, it's not neccesarily the answers they're after, it's how you anwser them. if you give evasive answers they ask more to find out what. someone who refuses to make coffee are probably going to be trouble at work - after all, it's just coffee. make coffee be great then take thier job.
@shanodude I think that's just an excuse to force other people to get you something you're too lazy to get to be honest...
lol what does coffee have to do with being a moral or even obedient person? It's not relevant to the business you're engaged in or the company you work for. It's a personal favor. If someone told me to do my work, I'd do it. if they told me to go pick up their kids from soccer practice, I would absolutely refuse to do that.
@Sshelly34213 if someone is in a meeting with a client and your asked to get coffee for all then how is that not part of the buisness? picking up kids is NOT part of anyones job unless you are a personel assistant. I would hesitate at employing any1 (gen y or not) that thinks a task is beneath them. it's just coffee. there'll be more interesting things to do after the coffee... and it wont be coffee 4 eva,
@shanodude We're NOT talking about that...we're talking about bosses forcing their clients to do their dirty work. If you're having a business meeting with someone it's only polite to offer them coffee and if you happen to be asked by someone that's different. I'm talking about getting coffee everyday of your life or working in the mail room everyday of your life despite having a goddamn degree and years of knowledge learned.
@shanodude I don't want to get into an argument, so let's just agree to disagree. I shared my viewpoints and how I saw the issue. If you can't get that, there is nothing else I can do. I already gave you the logical side of my perspective and the only thing you can give me is "you're wrong" and "you'll see one day!" ...as if obtaining wrinkles means you've gained knowledge. Actually I think people grow dumber as they get older.
@Sshelly34213 really dumber? well enjoy your cerebral decline from here on in. The jousting has been fun.. don't get me wrong, i wouldn't make some1 get me coffee day in day out. but if I'm in the middle of a half hour job and my offsider is idle, i don't see the problem with asking for a coffee.. having them refuse because the job is beneath them would be a display of a bad attitude. In employment, you do alot of things you don't really want to. take the check smile then find something better.
@shanodude I don't see how refusing to wipe asses=cerebral decline.
My attitude may be bad to you, but to me it is not about being unpleasant. I told you that I found servantile work like that irrelevant to any sort of job I may be doing.
@Sshelly34213 u stil don't get it, employment IS servantile. and the cerebral decline was in reference to you saying that people get dumber as they get older, that must include you too, ipso facto: enjoy your cerebral decline as you age. anyhoo, if you're prepared to chuck in a job for the sake of not making some1 a coffee then that's sad. some may suggest it's a bad attitude or imature. experience will teach you. it's just a coffee make it and get on with your life. have a great xmas :)
Yes I truly mean that a great deal of average people start to forget facts and knowledge as they get older. That's just what happens, they forget what they once knew very well. I'm about 22 and in college, so I am at the prime of my education. I just picked a major, I've got a while to go before I start forgetting knowledge.
It's not sad, how are ideals of not wanting to be someone's slave sad?
@Sshelly34213 hang on, something just ocured to me, when i say get coffee I think you mean goinf down to starbucks, However I'm talking about going to the kitchen in the hall and putting the kettle on - 5 minutes of ur day and not being someones erand boy, no I'm not talking about Finch in "Just Shoot Me". I mean. if i had a trainee who was observing and there was a break, I'd get the kid to make a coffee,from the kitchen, not starbucks and no laudrey n shit. unless ur job IS reand boy of course
@shanodude Yea, I still think that's mean because you're taking advantage of his/her position. (maybe once in awhile is ok) I would offer to make my trainee coffee and make him/her feel welcome in the workplace. If it were a mutual thing or say a meeting in which you asked one of your workers to make coffee for everyone, that would be different.
When I applied to my first job at a fast food restaurant, they made me watch these videos before I started. The boss offered me refreshments during it
@Sshelly34213 dont think of it as being some1s coffee biatch, often it's just a keen-meter, "they've made me coffee for a week now they are keen" OR "they flatly refuse to mak coffee, what else is beneath them? r they even aware there r others with similar desires n goals with experience also trying to get ahead? doesn't sound like it, we need a team player" having siad that, it aint perfect and often rewards mediocraty as middle manager want to promote themselves and not their underlings.
@shanodude To me, it's kind of in the line of sexual harassment. Making someone do favors instead of work, that is. They're intimidated into doing little inane errands for you...when they're not obligated to. Where in the job of secretary is the "coffee getting" clause? As a secretary you answer phones, handle paperwork, engage with people your boss may not be able to see at the moment, getting coffee is servantile
@Sshelly34213 WHAT??? if you are the employee and your employer gives you a lawful direction, then IT IS YOUR JOB... you are obligated to. Employment IS SERVANTILE. As you grow up, You'll find that most employment contracts contain this clause "...and followig any lawful direction of your superior." that's where. A job is: accepting money for performing tasks. simple. coffee fits into that easy. If you refuse to make coffee, what else are u likely to object to? difficult employee much?
@shanodude NONSENSE. No job description ever included obtaining someone's coffee and you can't convince me otherwise. Just because you were stupid enough to fall for a lie like that, doesn't mean I have to. And I won't.
@shanodude Yea I will understand one day when I am my own boss and you're still kissing your boss's ass in hopes of getting promoted to the mail room.
@shanodude Oh really?? I don't see you picking lettuce or cleaning up hotel rooms. I don't see you working at McDonalds.
Who are to talk about what work is beneath Generation Y when there's plenty, I can assure, that you would never bring yourself to do no matter who ordered you to.
I just graduated from college with a Bachelors degree and with honors. I am cleaning pools because I can not find other work that will pay my bills. When I started my boss had no faith in me because I was younger. After a month he fired the 40 year old and promoted me. Now I am doing repairs and making decent money. Still not what I want to do forever but no matter what you must do whatever is necessary and do it well. Even coffee. Positive,Positive Always.
@Fifthyoutubification Wow your boss was a dick. Sadly it's true, I wouldn't mind doing something like cleaning pools, but I'm not going to flip burgers or something like that with a college degree. I have some standards. Bosses have no right to treat people like that, they need to get the sticks out of their asses.
It depends. I am feeding his dogs but he pays me very well and I get almost absolute freedom at work. I have listened to about 10 books while doing my routes the past 4 months so that is cool too. If my boss was a dick, I wouldn't do that stuff. Not at a pool business, lol. I told myself I would never go back to serving tables or fast food so I can see your point on that one. For now, this is not bad but I am still hopeful the economy will recover and I can start my career.
@shanodude Careful. Things like that can easily degenerate into abuse. The job description for, say, a photographer's assistant generally states helping develop film, talking to clients, taking phone calls, and doing paperwork. In practice however, the photographer can turn you basically into his slave: you aren't paid extra for making his coffee, running his personal errands, being forced to leave your cell on at all crazy hours when the office shut down hours ago, (CONT)
@shanodude Organizing his PDA for him (even if the instructions are on his desk,) & even doing his work for him but he takes credit. The law in these cases side with the EMPLOYER and it is not fair and should be illegal. He is abusing his position and in the current climate quitting and finding another job is not only not an option, but doesn't change the fact that men like these ought to be stopped....and the flunkie deserves better treatment. An unfair law is no law at all.
@shanodude And as for the coffee, let me get this straight-"Oh, please, oh please, sir, let me pour you your coffee every day to prove I am keen!! Would you like a hot towel too, sir? Perhaps your slippers? Even though I have slaved away four years getting my degree just so I can work in a company like this and am working on a masters at night school, I must be getting somewhere because I am entrusted WITH COFFEE!! Nevermind that I never get invited to meetings
@shadowkitty56 you completely miss-understand me. I'm not expecting that some qualified person will be coffee bitch, but if a junior is flatley refusing to get some coffees for fellow workers (1 off not regular) then that points to bad attitude.
and experience versus qualifications. an analogy for you : at 16 or 17 your are qualified to drive a car but the most overrepresented age group in the road toll is under 24.
and if I dare open my mouth to say to you, "your plan will not work" I will be fired, and out on the streets in the worst economy since 1932. Never mind that I am expected to work at insane hours because in the current economy larger companies are trying to get away with smaller staff, meaning I am technically doing the paperwork of 3 men!! And nevermind that paperwork has to be done in triplicate, by hand, because some Boomer upstairs has never heard of automated copying from an iPhone!
@shanodude Nevermind that judging me by how well I serve you like a maid only proves how fast I can dial Starbucks and doesn't judge me on the grueling hours I have already put in, none of them on an actual project (experience my ass-you don't want to give me CREDIT because that would mean potential ADVANCEMENT if I did a good job.) I am not going to get paid extra for any of this, I am not doing anything in the job description,
and I watched Gen X suffer from this abuse ahead of me...only they could switch jobs. I don't even have a guarantee of a pension and I am told to be happy about getting coffee. I'll be twice as educated as my boss in a short while and I will have nothing to show for it except maybe a pink slip because he sees me as a threat.
Tell me, shanodude, what is Gen Y's motivation to accept things as they are again? Why should I get coffee forever when I need to move now?
I also believe that getting coffee means something more. I am feeding my bosses dog for a week. Out of appreciation for a job and because you must let them know that you will do what needs to be done and assist in a time of need. Changing their perception of you is very important. It is like the military, do what you are told and you will succeed. Hopefully. I am not a mindless follower by any means. But something so mundane and irrelevant in the long run should not be a issue
@Fifthyoutubification Yeah, but in the military, they appreciate talent: there is such thing as a mustang (a private who comes up through the ranks rather than gets officership through a military academy.) In the military they also will train you if you have a gap in your knowledge rather than expect you to fund it yourself or do piddly menial jobs to work your way up to it. For example, they will teach you computer programming (CONT)
@Fifthyoutubification if you have to work in cyber ops for the Navy and the rules are 1) you have to get high marks on the test to qualify 2) you have to be able to keep your mouth shut and 3) the Navy has to up your paygrade if you do the job well. Corporate America doesn't operate by this principle and it is slowly killing this country. There are a lot of folks over the age of 50 that just don't want to understand that their time is CONT
@Fifthyoutubification getting short at the top and their insistence on using old business models is no longer going to work (Down with Gordon Gekko! Down with the aping of archaic Japanese business practices where the men at the top of the tower have a God complex-those ideas turned Japan into a nation in constant debt & turned certain Boomers into men and women with boundless greed and a penchant to blame others for their failures, not to mention made them lazy!!)
@Fifthyoutubification This country should be pushing its young talent forward, not supressing it, not entrusting it with actual responsibility when their best years are complicated with children and the burdens of age-it is a recipe for decay. I myself graduated college 2 years ago and it was one of the top art schools in the nation. My degree is in graphics: I can build shit you see in Pixar films. Guess what?-The @#$@3 are outsourcing to Asia because the artist in Asia costs less than me!!
@Fifthyoutubification This is a very poor model for U.S. business in the long term. Those jobs enrich India, China, Singapore, etc. at OUR expense. They pour more money into those economies than they do ours. They also enable CEO's (most of them Boomers and a few X'ers) to keep ever larger bonuses and salaries for themselves and their shareholders. At the same time, most companies (not just film companies) that do this are hiring fewer and fewer young workers and (CONT)
@shanodude As I recall, the boomers once told Gen X to earn it, "do as I do and you will get your chance." Then I remember Gen X getting steamrolled by Boomers who refused to listen that the 60s & 70s were bad for anyone who had to be children back then (Moon Rainbow the Hippie or divorced Mom stoned in the hot tub with her umpteenth boyfriend really don't make good parents.)
Very well put. I just graduated after four years of college. Nothing worse than having a dream and then being told you now must wait indefinitely for your life to really begin.
@shanodude Meanwhile, Generation Y has been watching. Very closely. Steve Jobs gets lionized for creating Apple products but the truth is the unsung heroes of that company are mostly upper mid-level Xers who are doing the real work, making the apps, choosing what will sell....and it is also the Xers who created GOOGLE that are reaping the most profit, several times more than Boomer lead Microsoft.
@shanodude SAT scores have been rising steadily for 15+ years. The techie tools you left for us have given a big foundation to build on, a path for the 21st century. Generation Y is not going to be fooled by being told "wait and work" because we know that leads nowhere. Boomers have to be told, firmly, to get out of the way or be hurled there. Gen Y has the numbers.....but like George Washington and the troops, they need leaders.
Fanphuqintastic....and I am a boomer!!!!! Here it comes, I am passing the torch. Have you got it? Just one thing. We Boomers define ourselves by work so giving up creates super super hard role exit issues. Keep these videos coming...acerbic, witty, and oh yeah, TRUE!!!!!! ;)
@Mac16111 Here is a role I think you need to learn to swallow:
GRANDMA AND GRANDPA.
It is time. All of Gen X is of age and about half of Gen Y too. My sister gave birth to a baby girl 4 months ago and her future rests on you voluntarily jettisoning Social Security for a new program and passing from power so others can get beyond the Culture War. My grandparents didn't define themselves by what they did but rather who they loved. It is time to come to grips with that before its too late.
To me boomers typically are very hard working innovators. Gen X represents a determined and pragmatic group that adapts and thinks outside the box; they did the work behind the recent changes in technology Youtube itself is an example. Gen Y represents people who still have time on their side with a cool optimism and are typically easy to get along with. What Im saying is that we all have our own "torch". As a nation it will take all of us to turn things around.
Also, consider that the avg "gen x'er" right now... is in their mid to late 30s. For most of them, their oldest child right now might be in high school... so gen x is really in the same boat as us, still just trying to establish themselves behind the baby boomers and get their lives together...
You are wrong to include gen x in your rant. Gen x got screwed more than gen y by the baby boomers. Gen x still haven't gotten a chance to do their thing because the baby boomers won't let go... You are right that gen x has a bitter middle-child thing going on that they need to let go of... For the record, I am gen Y... but don't be so quick to dog gen x... we should be working with them to overthrow the baby boomers. Everything else though, I agree with...
@hollymaria I don't think he is, I find them heavily destructive. Of course it's not all their fault, but they were old enough to vote for Bush...were they not? A lot of them were old enough to vote for Clinton too. (although they were young adults, so I don't know how much I can blame them.)
You really need to find something better to do with your time. I'm not a baby-boomer and arguably, not even a Gen-Xer (I was born in 1979 which makes me very borderline X/Y). But this kind of ranting, complaining nonsense is short-sighted at best and isn't productive in any way. Generations ALWAYS dump on those that follow and yours and mine won't be any different in this respect. You can either jump into this crap like many or BE BIGGER THAN THAT and rise above it.
BS. Look what they did to the economy,wars,drug war,etc. They inherited all this wealth fro the ww2 economic prosperity. But now my generation faces constant police state,wars,debt and they want to cut programs like social security for my generation.They ruined this country and became corporate whores.We are the worst off generation. With the US in decline and screwing us over every chance.
@jxsilicon9 I'm not going to respond substantively to what you wrote because frankly, it's all over the place and I don't even know where to start with it. All I'll say for now (and I'm basically just REPEATING my previous posting) is that this "poor me/I'm a victim" mentality will get you NOWHERE in life. If you want to dwell on the faults of your predecessors, that's your prerogative. But this is NOT productive behavior and you're just wasting your time by doing this.
Nobody needs to dwell. But you should call someone out when they fuck up.We will move on because we have no other choice. But that doesn't mean they get a pass.
# 1- Take some diction lessons. Pal. This B-Boomer had my hearing aid turned up to 'Eleven' and couldn't understad a) WFT ur saying & b) Your point, My parents actually didn't say my Gens music sucked 100%, because @least some of the stuff was beautiful! Ever heard of 'Yesterday' ? But whether you get yourself tatooed up the ying/yang, hang out @ malls, throw yourself into a Mosh Pit, get your faced pierced in 20 places or simply buy Rap Music w/o a Melody or Harmony, you really have NO CLUE!
@ChicagoNeilcon Uhhh....I hate to break it to you, but some of the stuff your generation came out with does sound bloody ridiculous. "You can learn to be you in time," from All You Need is Love? Sounds like a fool who has read too many books on mind expansion.
@ChicagoNeilcon Blowing in the Wind? -Nice tune, but the world was distracted by your naked hairy balls at Woodstock. Should have been called "Blowing up my Ass."
Gen X did a fine job of music if you ask me, but the difference is that it wasn't into higher airy-fairy ideals like peace and love. It was into things that hit closer to home, closer to the heart....and not all of it was happy.
@ChicagoNeilcon . And BTW, the mosh pits were fun even for a 1982 Millie like me. At least the guy I was headbutting didn't try to sleep with me because he "wanted to expand his aura, duuude." The guy with the piercings was at least honest and taught me how to stage dive: "Kid, it's you 15th birthday?! Here, get on up-NOW JUMP LIKE MEEEEE!!!"
Good point (especially with the ''peace and love'' part!)
One thing those BOOMER FUCKS most commonly say when it comes to that is: ''we tried to change the world, but the world changed us.'' They seem to obsess over getting laid and fallen relationships. Like us Gen Xers, they too got fed up of their own parents. They claim their parents let them do nothing. At least their parents knew the BOOMERS were worthless shits.
I think it's premature to ask X to pass the torch too, the boomers are still holding it with their rotting fetid skeletal hands and they are planning to take that torch right to the grave.
We've only had two Baby Boomer presidents: Bush and Clinton and yet several WWII generation presidents: Kennedy, Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Carter, Ford, Reagan and Bush '41... and no post-war presidents like John McCain or Ron Paul. Boomers aren't as selfish as you think - don't believe the Gen X bromide.
I think Generation X and Generation Y are very similar...I think we should just merge both generations and call it "Generation Fucked" because that's what the Boomers did to us.
This guys sittin there bitchin about how the previous generations have'nt pass the torch. Hey dude, there's something you don't understand, the "torch" completely bypassed generation x. Open your eyes golden child the millenials already have the torch. Good luck! Try not to fuck it up, more then it already is!
@shmbonn There's so many things wrong with this stupid video that I could really go on forever. But piggybacking on your comment, the other thing this guy doesn't get is that if you want something in this world, you need to GO AND GET IT. It's a tough world we live in and nobody is going to just "pass you" anything, nor do they have an obligation to.
To the Babyboomers, you stole my youth with your bullshit premise of "if you generation Xers follow the same path and rules as the Boomers did/do or made up along the way, you can obtain the same as what Boomers have. One of the greatest cons of all time. Boomers, if I have to, I will take it, and it will not be pretty for you when we TAKE your golden years.
Boomers also lied to us in the education system....telling us that we HAD to have a college degree to get a high paying job. Now, college grads can't find work because the fucking Boomers won't retire...they won't let us work.
@weilandjason Hey, dude, it ain't no picnic being their CHILDREN either. It is strange: as kids, they told us that, "one day, you will take over from me and all the sun touches shall be yours." Nowadays, they infantilize us by helicoptering and kick and scream when we ask for the keys to Hollywood and Washington: NOOOO! I AM STILL YOUNG AND BEAUUTIFULL!! YOUNG, HIP, BEAUTIFUL!! YOU ARE STILL A BABY IN YOUR CRIB AND HAVE NO EXPERIENCE!! BEGONE, BACK TO THE PLAYPEN WITH YOU!!
Exactly right - Gen X never had the "torch" dude, but we are about to - don't mix us in with Baby Boomers - because we're not them,and they are not us. They sold out -
We're not 'bitter" - we're pissed off - know the difference.
20 baby boomers can't fit into their high waisted velour bell bottoms anymore, and realise that easy rider was a shitty movie.
YayMeth 1 week ago
Right the fuck on. Subbed like Subbingly Subbington.
YayMeth 1 week ago
Unless you're younger then you look you are not Y.
Welcome to X don't forget to pick up your complimentary flannel shirt, mixtape of good music, and apathy at the door.
Shaitan051 3 weeks ago
@Shaitan051 I joke about that a lot actually when we talk about these issues because I know I look older, but born in '83, I'll skip the apathy though I still want that mixtape if you have it.
cynicallytested 3 weeks ago
Yes, we feel you knocking on the door...the door of our vacant rental home looking for a place to live cheap so you can keep pumping your misspent savings into the Apple corporation. By the way, Dr. Phil wants to know... "How's that working for you?"
geglockn 3 weeks ago
Does your mother know what you are doing in her basement? Better be careful or she will take away your allowance.
geglockn 3 weeks ago
Sorry honey, we're the majority. Sorry. If we are not a baby boomer, we are a child of a baby boomer, a brother of a baby boomer, a sister of a baby boomer, or a parent of a baby boomer or a grand child of a baby boomer. WE rule.
ReFLeXG4M1NG 5 months ago
CynicallyTested, you have some funny points, but you easily gloss over a HUGE Millennial Generation flaw: The insatiable willingness of Millies to gobble up the 21st-century purely-for-profit, ear-rape music being pushed on them by the Boomers colluding with Gen-X....Now is *that* being a pliable, brain-dead robot or what!?!?
Catdude5000 6 months ago
What does "pass the torch" mean? Are you saying all Boomers and Gen X'rs should just quit their jobs, roll over and die? Sure, if a Boomer or X'r can afford to retire early, more power to them. There's some kind of myth that Boomers are well off. I don't really know any personally that are--I do from the generation prior to Boomers. The only way to make it is to be in business for yourself.
suekayable 7 months ago
From Gen X, if you want the "torch" get it the same way every generation before you has. Light your own fire. Dont look to others for it. Do something of value as a human being, complaining about us is kinda pointless. Gen X had some unique and fucked up challenges just like every generation before and after. That said, much love to the next generations. But so far I am unimpressed with your generations music and art. Come on! You can do better than Lady Gaga.
BelleNex 7 months ago
@BelleNex True dat, but unfortunately that requires something nobody my age has: capital. The folks at the record companies are the ones putting out Gaga. What I have been listening to lately, believe it or not, are songs from the Oh Brother, Where Art Thou sdtrack (listening to songs from the 30s is something I can relate to a lot better given the circumstances of today-I really could care less about whatever paper thin crap is on the radio.)
shadowkitty56 7 months ago
@BelleNex We do want to create something new, but Boomers own a whole lot of the infrastructure to make it happen. We want to build bullet trains....but Boomer politicians can't agree to put up the dough and companies headed by the Boomers don't want to put any of us in charge (we have more training in CAD and are raring to go to try new materials with the latest tech....but Skippy here with the gray hair gets cold feet every time ->
shadowkitty56 7 months ago
@BelleNex and keeps looking at the Millies like their still in diapers (Skippy, I hate to break it to you, but I am 28 years old. I have long since shed the braces and My Little Pony. I am old enough to run for Congress and old enough to have a child myself. IT IS TIME. I AM READY TO ROCK. Give the plans to me and the X'er, we'll be back in about two weeks with the whole thing planned, ready, and with a surplus in the budget. )
shadowkitty56 7 months ago
@BelleNex We want much more out of this country, but since we have no income, no job, no assets, we're paralyzed. We can't start new businesses on a Starbucks salary (if we have a job at all.) We can't force radical change if we don't have support from some of our elders. We need somebody to show us the way out, a leader, a General Patton to lead the march and keep us on the ball.
That should be GEN X's JOB. FORWARD, MARCH!!
shadowkitty56 7 months ago
@shadowkitty56 I understand your frustration. Gen X had no leaders to show us the way, no great jobs waiting for us to finish college. Everything our generation has achieved has been on a shoestring and pure piss and vinegar. There is no magic leader, no one to show you the way out. You have to adventure, discover, and create. Each generation has that same obligation. Now its your generations turn to carve out your place in history. Get busy! And good luck!
BelleNex 7 months ago
I give all the love in the world to Gen Y and there's no question you guys are going to do great things for this country. That said, the only mistake most of us X'ers made was believing the Boomers when they told us that loyalty and hard work would be rewarded. Through the cubicle politics, pay cuts, shrinking benefits, outsourcing, and downsizing, we figured they wouldn't do us wrong. Silly fucking us....
volumecorps 8 months ago
Leave the X'ers alone OK? Many of us are only in our 30's and early 40's and your parents (the Boomers) held us back with our careers. I guess you forgot at one time we were also called "Slackers"?
tmf1977 9 months ago 2
I've lost all faith in America. I'm leaving
jebenn23 9 months ago
I have a challenge for you. If you can talk in such a positive manner about us Millennials and talk trash about the Baby Boomers and Generation X so easily, what about actually pointing out Generation Y's flaws? Do you know about OUR flaws or are you too busy blaming others for our problems? They have their share in our issues, yes, but what about our blame?
CoolNASCARGuy 11 months ago
@CoolNASCARGuy Well this rant was about knocking down the stereotypes that came up when gen Y first entered the workforce/school - this rant was from a tv series called the what is! where we talked about those issues you mention, but since it was a boomer network they weren't comfortable with free stuff online, so we threw up what we could, perhaps we'll throw some stuff on here from what is still relevant to today.
cynicallytested 10 months ago
YEAH
booker80 11 months ago
actually, I am a "late-bloomer boomer" (meaning, I was almost too late to qualify) and I honestly look forward to how your gen makes the changes we all need. Yours is the one who simply will no longer just "put up with" all the garbage that is going on. More power to you.
Dont forget though, we have to eat also, and I really don't think you'd like us to make you pay for our meals-on-wheels! we still have to work for our bread. ;)
MayBKay 11 months ago
i'm a boomer and many of my generation are hypocrites and you will find that goes for most of any generation - just going to have put up and move on
goth1856 1 year ago
The jaguar is a natural desert beastie that called America its home, and aside from enriching the ecosystem it would be a HUGE cash cow for ecotourism. Grand Canyon rakes in a lot of money today. Add the sound of roaring jaguars at night and photos of it drinking from the Colorado River by day and we don't have a natl park, we have a safari.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
However, the jaguar has a fence in its way of migrating naturally, a loudmouth bunch of ranchers who don't get it that the West has been won, and old farts at the Dept of Fish and Wildlife with no vision for the future: in 40 years, if trends continue, there will be no jaguars in Northern Mexico and the cat will also be extirpated from large chunks of its normal range: history is repeating itself again (the same thing happened to the tiger in Asia.)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 Or how about ideas for the environment? -Do a giant review of all the endangered and threatened liifeforms and come out with something like Operation:Ecosystem. Let the cougar return to the East as we now know they are all one subspecies (it isn't like California is going to miss a few hundred.) Let the wolf and grizzly return to California: California looks stupid when the state flag has a grizzly on it but no grizzlies present since 1922!!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 It's absurd, I can't believe how ineffective this generation is at anything ecological. You bring up global warming to anyone in the senate and they go on about how the world will end when God says so. Um. Ok, I can see those who disagree with the science of global warming and where the planet's climate is heading in the future, but these people can't even get to that level. Don't they realize that the world has graduated such thinking? Their thinking is archaic
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 Don't take it too seriously. I believe in God, but trust me, not all of us who do are totally stupid. I see right through these clowns: they only profess to be Christian because that is who is backing their finance campaign. Any real Christian (or Catholic like me) will tell you that, in the Bible, the Almighty did not take false prophets of His work well and those that acted as such often got in HUUUGE trouble.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 Oh I don't think that at all, it's not about belief in God it's about political corruption at the end of the day. These people are manipulating others with their beliefs. They've already been paid off not to do anything about global warming, they're just trying to build up fanbases about these things. Where in the bible does it discuss global warming? These people just pull things out of their asses and wrap in religion and patriotism to convince the masses.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 It would seem to me that these Senators are nothing but opportunistic little rats who claim to be Godly but are actually hiding behind a cloak of righteousness to put off the hard work to come. I am a firm believer in science and so was the nun who ran my school as a girl. She told me the story of Galileo & that science is not against God, but cowards are.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 To be honest, I just don't find the ideas something I believe, but I have no problem with others who do. I have a huge problem with those who try to manipulate others with it though. It really bothers me to see anyone use people. I think I realized at age 11, the first election of Bush Jr, that my politicians were using religion as a ploy to get people to vote for them. I couldn't imagine how anyone would fall for that or believe that-I was a Catholic then at the time too.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 I am a bit older than you and I had to vote in that election. I knew what I saw when I looked at Bush. Here was a guy who was drunk and high half his life and my guess is that at some point the evangelicals got to him, got him 12 stepping. He recovered, and then they decided to call in a favor, y'know, like they do in the Mob. They had their perfect parrot in office. The perfect stooge to get (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 Oh man, that is true.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
3 @Sshelly34213 Meanwhile, let's take a look at it from another POV: believe it or not, the U.S. is home to one of the big cats: jaguars. Once these cats prowled around California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and possibly southern Nevada and western Louisiana. They were once 1 of the largest carnivores in the lower 48 and would have been able hunters of peccary and bison. In Mexico, at night in some areas, their roar can be heard for miles and goes right through your heart.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 Today, the jaguar is increasingly endangered, losing its habitat across the board. Mexico is not a safe place for them anymore: in the Yucatan they are almost gone and in the Sonoran desert, they are shot by ranchers (this is very bad as the wolf, the grizzly, the bison, and the black bear have already disappeared over the course of about 100 years, and the Mexican govt doesn't have the cash or infrastructure to fix this.)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 Here in America we have the resources to save the cat: Joshua Tree NP, Big Bend National Park in Texas, and even Grand Canyon has the room and the habitat for these cats to thrive in (they are already under the Endangered Species Act.) All of these areas are rotten with elk, mule deer, bighorn sheep, and peccary for the cat to eat, and have plenty of cover to ambush their prey with.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 That's so true we have so much contiguous land here, the fact that we waste it for absolutely nothing is shocking.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 uber-conservative, mostly Protestant, over the hill white males who are scared of the future voting for their agenda. Some of these men are also very wealthy WASPy types with a lot of influence and not much sense. Anyway, these WASPs couldn't lose: they had a puppet who would destroy the last remaining constraints on corporatism, & who would allow them to do whatever they wanted in Natl Forests. They made a bundle while this was going on.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
We need a new generation with new solutions, because it looks like the Boomers, many of them, need a spanking. For the CEO's, I say, "enjoy it while you can, the coffee-you never know which of your younger employees will someday spit in it when you are not looking."
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 Exactly. I have so many ideas that I would love to offer these people, but they don't want to listen to reason. Whatever happened to companies investing in things like building and development? Wouldn't it be cool if we could build a system of high speed trains all over this country? I saw an article the other day about someone who had an idea to make solar powered roads that could power cities. People have ideas, but they're certainly not boomers.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 I can do you one better. How about regulating the internet much like one would a public utility, like the post office?! It is not the place of ISP's to charge us a pound of flesh or block us from use at any time. Nobody is meant to own the internet. Censorship of the internet should be in the hands of parents who want to prevent porno freaks or pervs from getting to the kids and some light monitoring by cops should be in order (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 I totally agree with that, I can't stand censorship of the internet. Youtube is a great example, I should be able to curse on here if I want to. Also, notice how insane censorship of language has become? I was watching an interview on Letterman and someone said the word Christ and it was bleeped....what? How is that a swear? Fuck is a swear, Shit is a swear, but Christ is not a swear.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 (To be clear every web browser would have to have a 911 VOIP link that would, in an emergency, put a user in touch with a web savvy policeman within 30 miles of his home in case Merv the Perv shows up. It could save lives and clobber the Mervs of this world, not to mention be useful if you can't get to a phone.)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
We need real solutions-who give a shit if Julian Assange leaked loads of documents, the question you should be asking is what do those docs reveal and what do we, the people, ALL OF US, do with that information? (As I recall a man called Deep Throat did something very similar in '72 & Boomers everywhere cheered. Now you go bananas when Assange does it. Assange is a paranoid loon, but that doesn't mean he hasn't hit it lucky this time. Hypocrites.)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 Exactly! I find it strange that leaking information about something is seen as evil in this day and age. Why do we have secrets? Why do we need them? Secrecy creates fear all around the world and fear makes people more guarded and ultimately violent.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 I can understand some secrets as necessary (nuclear launch codes, the covers of certain CIA agents, etc.) but others I see as unnecessary & otherwise wrong to keep from the public. We have every right to know how our government functions and when that government is keeping one too many secrets from us, the caretakers of our own democracy, it is a step too far and far away from what the founders of this nation wanted.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 Exactly.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 @Sshelly34213 Jefferson said that the people of a nation are the only safe depositories of democracy and that this degenerates when govt. is left to its own devices. I would wager that Boomers in Washington think an awful lot of themselves that they never stop to think that Joe Average on the street might know more than he does and that an open ear to HIM and not BUSINESS is the way out of this mess.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
and those that fiddle and expect summer to last forever freeze in the cold. The institutions their parents built are falling apart from neglect & the mindless arguing. Newsflash, Boomers: NOBODY is going to win the Culture Wars! Other bigger problems have priority: the military industrial complex, the plutocratic nature of politics, a media that is interested in making money rather than winning Pulitzers, and oh, say, A GIANT NATL DEBT COUPLED WITH RECESSION!!!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
being the last to turn out the light on the dying American dream factory, like an industrialist pig of the past who retired from a sweatshop richer than Croesus but didn't shed a tear for the worker who died poor and used up.
The rest of the Boomers need to jettison Social Security for something new and cheaper. Apparently nobody read to them the story of the Grasshopper and the Ant when they were little. Only those that work and stow away food stay warm and happy when winter comes (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
Boomer CEO's should be taking paycuts and be taken to court: They have a right to earn money, but they don't have the right to horde it or use it to control the country at the expense of others. Their disloyalty to their fellow man has to have a price. In the time of TR Roosevelt, laws were brought in to stop this kind of behavior b/c it was ruining the country...& they need repair & updates to stop these greedy thugs from
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
Gen Y shouldn't be getting coffee-it is a waste of manpower when we're needed to get the wheels of the US economy grinding NOW. Not in 2 years when we have more experience & when China's economy has grown even bigger. Our elders in X need to get PROMOTED & get the credit they should have gotten eons ago: they are the ones doing the actual engineering on Google and YouTube & actually understand the young when they talk in programming terms!!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
the Gen Y workers getting hired often have to do piles of busywork that would ordinarily be done by 2 or 3 people.
Older workers are gonna feel the squeeze w/ a big younger gen coming in willing to work 4 less. Normally X would respond by quitting for other pastures but this is harder when you have kids, a mortgage, and old age coming within 30 years...and a HORRIBLE economy hobbling along.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
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shadowkitty56 1 year ago
This is a pretty generalised speel. Not all baby boomers had it good.
PimpernellP 1 year ago
im sorry but i have no idea what this video is about
crowman131 1 year ago
lol, Generation X is STILL waiting for the selfish asshole Baby Boomers to pass the torch... but that's not gonna happen and when it does, the torch will be burnt out as they move in with us. Sorry to break the news to you, but Generation X is fucked... and Generation Y is TOTALLY fucked
USBHumpingDog 1 year ago
@USBHumpingDog I totally understand that, which is why I think a lot of Generation Yers want to work with Generation X.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
TO YOUNG AMERICANS, the Baby Boomers were NOT the Civil Rights Generation. That shit started when Truman desegregated the military in 1948, and continued through Eisenhower, JFK, and LBJ. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, and the Voting Rights Act in 1965. The people who did the majority of the heavy lifting were our grandparents and The Silent Generation. Boomers are frauds and false prophets. At this point they've got gut rot, and I think it's incurable.
Zelathago 1 year ago
@Zelathago I think my generation is starting to understand that. People like MLK and even whites who fought for civil rights like Pernell Roberts, were from the silent generation. I think it's sad and pathetic that baby boomers managed to steal that title for themselves. If you think about it, they are the generation that got everything. My generation has a lot of kids that grew up with single parents, most of my friends lived in condos and apartments, not houses and I don't live in the big city
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
Pass you the torch? try earning it. the world owes you nothing.
hey gen y dude. don't blame gen x for this. we're still waitin for the baby boomers to pass the torch too dude and we've earnt it. I hope ur enjoyin all of this tech stuff gen x made for youJust so you know, gen x was named x becuase it was a label with no discription, forgotten, no label required, x will do,who cares attitude. Y is named y because it follows x. baby boomers, the me me me gen, want all the advantage always.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that you're from Generation X...
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 geez you gen y's are clever. yer i did actually say i am from gen x. Why is it that Gen y want to be given everything - now, why is it they feel it is their birthright to be handed everything on a platter. "ooh I;m in gen y so i know more than you so i should be in charge and have all the power and money" wotevs. here's a clue, you don't know everything because you have wikipedia. Go and earn a living and some respect.. yes respect is earned not handed out like halloween candy.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude We don't, why is it that Generation X is just plain mean to everyone? Really that is the vibe I get from Generation X, they are just mean people who bitter attitudes.
I don't want power and money, I want someone to do their goddamn job and baby boomers have lost that ability somewhere along the way. They can't even run the US Senate. God look at them, they spend their days endlessly bickering to the point where nothing even gets done.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 gen x isn't mean to everyone. gen x is still wainting for our turn and already gen y are saying hurry up, that's where the hostility stems from.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude There is a HUGE amount of hostility in your comments, actually you're the most lenient Xer I have come across.
We're not saying "hurry up,"-although being young and eager, can you blame us?-we're just saying, 'fix stuff because we want to get on with our lives" It's understandable considering the circumstances in which we find ourselves in. Massive debt, failing health care, education, and dilapidated roads and cities. Then there's possible wars, global warming, etc...
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude I'm not going to get used to it, I'm going to try and change this anyway I can. Most of my generation feels this way, so I think we're going to see this go away for awhile.
Boomers invented this absurd caste system where one must start off by doing household chores and then work their way up to asswiping, coffee getting, I mean...what a complete waste of human power. Especially when there is so much that needs to be done! The boomers are wasteful people.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude What makes you think we "get" everything we want? Most of my friends grew up in apartments and I went to a private school. Divorce rate was 50% when I was growing up, how can you honestly say that Generation Y got everything they wanted? That is a complete blanket statement concerning white anglo saxon America and not even the majority of whites because I'm white myself.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 what makes me think this, because gen y want it all now... they don't know what "entry level" means and expect to be earning the same as someone with experience... you should try hiring one.
and cynicallytested, he looks very uneployed
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude What makes you say that though? I've never met anyone in my age group demanding to be the boss of a company they don't understand. We don't "want it now," we just want to be treated like we deserve to be treated. I don't see why someone with a great deal of credentials should have to make coffee and kiss ass for years.
He LOOKS unemployed? What on earth does that mean, don't you think that's kind of a moronic thing to say? How can someone "look" unemployed?
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 credemntials aren't everything, experience counts for a great deal. that is why credentials in some areas (like some aprenticeships for eg) can be granted with many years of experience- of 15 or 20 years worth. If you've just started on your way up the ladder, then you had better get used to kissing arse and making coffee - experience will teach you to make bad coffe so no-one asks you to make it again.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude That is true, but what's the point of going through an education to squander it by getting coffee..these people may have ideas that could benefit you and you're making them get your coffee? How is anything going to get done? You could be missing out on an opportunity to make some money by having someone do your housework. Employers should not be treated like maids, they should be treated as someone who has something to bring to a company...
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 how does he look unemployed? Maybe i should hae said unemployable. he needs to anunciate and drop the attitude or jobs that include contact with customers will be out, same with bathing - a little soap wouldn't hurt. that bad attitude will ensure his coffe making abilities will be expert. Beginners, credentials or not, should be treated as beginners until they prove themselves, that's how it works. credentials doesn't mean automatic top pay rate but experience probalby will.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude Well it is an informal youtube video...so why? The "attitude" is simply for humor.
I don't see how you can tell if he's bathed or not.
This isn't a job interview...lol, it's just a humorous video.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 oh and i wasn't talking about American Gen y only, I'm not even in USA.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I have no idea what other countries went through, but I'm sure it wasn't as perfect as you're making it out to be.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 i never said anything was perfect. the baby boomers have sucked all the goodness, fun and advantage out of the world and have feathered their nests very nicely. and that dude in the video wants any advantage to skip over people like me so he can get ahead minus the hard work - he doesn't want to earn anything he wants it to be handed to him, he said it himself.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude These issues are enough to make a person go a bit nuts and say, "Just get out of the way!"
It's not about "skipping over you" it's about working together to get what we both want. Why must one generation be "ahead" of another, is this contest? Why can't we work together as equal partners if we can bring equally good ideas to the table?
Of course the poster exaggerated for humor, you have to recognize that. He wasn't really saying, "get out of the way," it was a joke.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude I just see certain things as a waste of my time and I want to try and make that change. If you think it's a lost cause, I understand that point of view. I don't by the idea that I am "lazy" or "selfish" for simply having goals and ideas and trying to accomplish them in the world.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 look, as soon as the baby boomer fall off the perch and we get a go, yes we'll fix a great deal and those old worn out "old boys" attitudes will flounder and then yes, we can all get a go. I have a 15 year old work expereicne kid attending here 1 or 2 days a week, intern stile, no pay. he's been doing it for only a couple of weeks. He'll make me coffee and some menial jobs for a few more weeks yet to see how keen he still is. gradually increasing duties then he'll learn stuff..
shanodude 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 ... learn some stuff n i'll get him to do more... he still is keen, pays attention, very smart and asks lots of questions... GREAT fantastic... a top GEN Y kid. that's a great attitude.
No it's not a contest, but when we've been waiting patiently for our turn moving up the ladder putting in the hard yards with lots of experience and some one with no expereince comes along and says "pick me, it's not fair if you don't" we think, ah yes that's what we thought too at that age.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude Hey I totally agree with that, I don't think it's fair that Xers never got their due, which is why a lot of Yers want to work with you guys as opposed to compete-as Boomers probably made you guys do.
There are some pathetic people in my generation, Brittney Spears comes to mind, but I believe our greatness has yet to be achieved.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 goals are good i'm not knockin that but there's only so many jobs and the best candidate get it usually. understand that there are others that also want the jobs, just because some1 is qualified does not mean the are entitled to the job.
yes cenrtain things are a waste of time but often you have to do them so you can work towards the things you do want just like all b4 u. The billionaire who owns my work started as office & mail boy to a TV exec, worked his way up to it not down.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I recognize the reality of the situation, I just still see it as a waste of time and money. Having people get your coffee is still a waste of labor...a monkey can do that, a child could do that!. They...can get their own coffee and save a few bucks..
it just stuns me how utterly pathetic people can become, having people wipe their ass and get their coffee.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 by the way, i actually do like most gen Y, all the sub cultures, kids are getting smarter younger.. and are an untapped talent, but the direction has to come from experience, otherwise you are discarding or ignoring alot of learning. I think gen y can make a valuable contribution but yes work with us n stop trying to take it over and NO you can't have it all now.. we all want it all now too but we have patience and earn our way there.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I can't argue with that, experience is always the best way to go. I just don't see getting coffee as any type of valuable experience to be obtained. As I said, it's a waste of labor, time, brains, all so some fat cat at the top can continue to stay at the top and make more money. Think of it as procrastination...the boomers procrastinated and that is what kept you from getting your dues. This "you need to get my coffee before you can run this account" attitude.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude And they've ingrained this in people for such a long time, that they know see it as necessary. It's not...necessarily to get coffee..
Maybe the mail room, I could see that, although there is better labor to be found for such jobs.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 i can see where you're coming from and i agree it's a little demeaning and a quallified person making coffe isn't ideal but it's not about the coffee, it's like cops who'll bail you up and ask questions, it's not neccesarily the answers they're after, it's how you anwser them. if you give evasive answers they ask more to find out what. someone who refuses to make coffee are probably going to be trouble at work - after all, it's just coffee. make coffee be great then take thier job.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I think that's just an excuse to force other people to get you something you're too lazy to get to be honest...
lol what does coffee have to do with being a moral or even obedient person? It's not relevant to the business you're engaged in or the company you work for. It's a personal favor. If someone told me to do my work, I'd do it. if they told me to go pick up their kids from soccer practice, I would absolutely refuse to do that.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 if someone is in a meeting with a client and your asked to get coffee for all then how is that not part of the buisness? picking up kids is NOT part of anyones job unless you are a personel assistant. I would hesitate at employing any1 (gen y or not) that thinks a task is beneath them. it's just coffee. there'll be more interesting things to do after the coffee... and it wont be coffee 4 eva,
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude We're NOT talking about that...we're talking about bosses forcing their clients to do their dirty work. If you're having a business meeting with someone it's only polite to offer them coffee and if you happen to be asked by someone that's different. I'm talking about getting coffee everyday of your life or working in the mail room everyday of your life despite having a goddamn degree and years of knowledge learned.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude I don't want to get into an argument, so let's just agree to disagree. I shared my viewpoints and how I saw the issue. If you can't get that, there is nothing else I can do. I already gave you the logical side of my perspective and the only thing you can give me is "you're wrong" and "you'll see one day!" ...as if obtaining wrinkles means you've gained knowledge. Actually I think people grow dumber as they get older.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 really dumber? well enjoy your cerebral decline from here on in. The jousting has been fun.. don't get me wrong, i wouldn't make some1 get me coffee day in day out. but if I'm in the middle of a half hour job and my offsider is idle, i don't see the problem with asking for a coffee.. having them refuse because the job is beneath them would be a display of a bad attitude. In employment, you do alot of things you don't really want to. take the check smile then find something better.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude I don't see how refusing to wipe asses=cerebral decline.
My attitude may be bad to you, but to me it is not about being unpleasant. I told you that I found servantile work like that irrelevant to any sort of job I may be doing.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 u stil don't get it, employment IS servantile. and the cerebral decline was in reference to you saying that people get dumber as they get older, that must include you too, ipso facto: enjoy your cerebral decline as you age. anyhoo, if you're prepared to chuck in a job for the sake of not making some1 a coffee then that's sad. some may suggest it's a bad attitude or imature. experience will teach you. it's just a coffee make it and get on with your life. have a great xmas :)
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude It isn't really.
Yes I truly mean that a great deal of average people start to forget facts and knowledge as they get older. That's just what happens, they forget what they once knew very well. I'm about 22 and in college, so I am at the prime of my education. I just picked a major, I've got a while to go before I start forgetting knowledge.
It's not sad, how are ideals of not wanting to be someone's slave sad?
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude I don't ever plan on working in an office for one thing
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 hang on, something just ocured to me, when i say get coffee I think you mean goinf down to starbucks, However I'm talking about going to the kitchen in the hall and putting the kettle on - 5 minutes of ur day and not being someones erand boy, no I'm not talking about Finch in "Just Shoot Me". I mean. if i had a trainee who was observing and there was a break, I'd get the kid to make a coffee,from the kitchen, not starbucks and no laudrey n shit. unless ur job IS reand boy of course
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude *erand* doh ... and i don't work in your average office, it's kind of specialised.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude Yea, I still think that's mean because you're taking advantage of his/her position. (maybe once in awhile is ok) I would offer to make my trainee coffee and make him/her feel welcome in the workplace. If it were a mutual thing or say a meeting in which you asked one of your workers to make coffee for everyone, that would be different.
When I applied to my first job at a fast food restaurant, they made me watch these videos before I started. The boss offered me refreshments during it
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 dont think of it as being some1s coffee biatch, often it's just a keen-meter, "they've made me coffee for a week now they are keen" OR "they flatly refuse to mak coffee, what else is beneath them? r they even aware there r others with similar desires n goals with experience also trying to get ahead? doesn't sound like it, we need a team player" having siad that, it aint perfect and often rewards mediocraty as middle manager want to promote themselves and not their underlings.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude To me, it's kind of in the line of sexual harassment. Making someone do favors instead of work, that is. They're intimidated into doing little inane errands for you...when they're not obligated to. Where in the job of secretary is the "coffee getting" clause? As a secretary you answer phones, handle paperwork, engage with people your boss may not be able to see at the moment, getting coffee is servantile
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 WHAT??? if you are the employee and your employer gives you a lawful direction, then IT IS YOUR JOB... you are obligated to. Employment IS SERVANTILE. As you grow up, You'll find that most employment contracts contain this clause "...and followig any lawful direction of your superior." that's where. A job is: accepting money for performing tasks. simple. coffee fits into that easy. If you refuse to make coffee, what else are u likely to object to? difficult employee much?
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude NONSENSE. No job description ever included obtaining someone's coffee and you can't convince me otherwise. Just because you were stupid enough to fall for a lie like that, doesn't mean I have to. And I won't.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 you will understand one day.
shanodude 1 year ago
@shanodude Yea I will understand one day when I am my own boss and you're still kissing your boss's ass in hopes of getting promoted to the mail room.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude Oh really?? I don't see you picking lettuce or cleaning up hotel rooms. I don't see you working at McDonalds.
Who are to talk about what work is beneath Generation Y when there's plenty, I can assure, that you would never bring yourself to do no matter who ordered you to.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213
I just graduated from college with a Bachelors degree and with honors. I am cleaning pools because I can not find other work that will pay my bills. When I started my boss had no faith in me because I was younger. After a month he fired the 40 year old and promoted me. Now I am doing repairs and making decent money. Still not what I want to do forever but no matter what you must do whatever is necessary and do it well. Even coffee. Positive,Positive Always.
Fifthyoutubification 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification Wow your boss was a dick. Sadly it's true, I wouldn't mind doing something like cleaning pools, but I'm not going to flip burgers or something like that with a college degree. I have some standards. Bosses have no right to treat people like that, they need to get the sticks out of their asses.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213
It depends. I am feeding his dogs but he pays me very well and I get almost absolute freedom at work. I have listened to about 10 books while doing my routes the past 4 months so that is cool too. If my boss was a dick, I wouldn't do that stuff. Not at a pool business, lol. I told myself I would never go back to serving tables or fast food so I can see your point on that one. For now, this is not bad but I am still hopeful the economy will recover and I can start my career.
Fifthyoutubification 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification It better, I mean you have a degree and it seems such a shame to not be able to use it.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@shanodude Careful. Things like that can easily degenerate into abuse. The job description for, say, a photographer's assistant generally states helping develop film, talking to clients, taking phone calls, and doing paperwork. In practice however, the photographer can turn you basically into his slave: you aren't paid extra for making his coffee, running his personal errands, being forced to leave your cell on at all crazy hours when the office shut down hours ago, (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude Organizing his PDA for him (even if the instructions are on his desk,) & even doing his work for him but he takes credit. The law in these cases side with the EMPLOYER and it is not fair and should be illegal. He is abusing his position and in the current climate quitting and finding another job is not only not an option, but doesn't change the fact that men like these ought to be stopped....and the flunkie deserves better treatment. An unfair law is no law at all.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude And as for the coffee, let me get this straight-"Oh, please, oh please, sir, let me pour you your coffee every day to prove I am keen!! Would you like a hot towel too, sir? Perhaps your slippers? Even though I have slaved away four years getting my degree just so I can work in a company like this and am working on a masters at night school, I must be getting somewhere because I am entrusted WITH COFFEE!! Nevermind that I never get invited to meetings
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56 you completely miss-understand me. I'm not expecting that some qualified person will be coffee bitch, but if a junior is flatley refusing to get some coffees for fellow workers (1 off not regular) then that points to bad attitude.
and experience versus qualifications. an analogy for you : at 16 or 17 your are qualified to drive a car but the most overrepresented age group in the road toll is under 24.
shanodude 1 year ago
and if I dare open my mouth to say to you, "your plan will not work" I will be fired, and out on the streets in the worst economy since 1932. Never mind that I am expected to work at insane hours because in the current economy larger companies are trying to get away with smaller staff, meaning I am technically doing the paperwork of 3 men!! And nevermind that paperwork has to be done in triplicate, by hand, because some Boomer upstairs has never heard of automated copying from an iPhone!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude Nevermind that judging me by how well I serve you like a maid only proves how fast I can dial Starbucks and doesn't judge me on the grueling hours I have already put in, none of them on an actual project (experience my ass-you don't want to give me CREDIT because that would mean potential ADVANCEMENT if I did a good job.) I am not going to get paid extra for any of this, I am not doing anything in the job description,
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
and I watched Gen X suffer from this abuse ahead of me...only they could switch jobs. I don't even have a guarantee of a pension and I am told to be happy about getting coffee. I'll be twice as educated as my boss in a short while and I will have nothing to show for it except maybe a pink slip because he sees me as a threat.
Tell me, shanodude, what is Gen Y's motivation to accept things as they are again? Why should I get coffee forever when I need to move now?
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude
I also believe that getting coffee means something more. I am feeding my bosses dog for a week. Out of appreciation for a job and because you must let them know that you will do what needs to be done and assist in a time of need. Changing their perception of you is very important. It is like the military, do what you are told and you will succeed. Hopefully. I am not a mindless follower by any means. But something so mundane and irrelevant in the long run should not be a issue
Fifthyoutubification 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification Yeah, but in the military, they appreciate talent: there is such thing as a mustang (a private who comes up through the ranks rather than gets officership through a military academy.) In the military they also will train you if you have a gap in your knowledge rather than expect you to fund it yourself or do piddly menial jobs to work your way up to it. For example, they will teach you computer programming (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification if you have to work in cyber ops for the Navy and the rules are 1) you have to get high marks on the test to qualify 2) you have to be able to keep your mouth shut and 3) the Navy has to up your paygrade if you do the job well. Corporate America doesn't operate by this principle and it is slowly killing this country. There are a lot of folks over the age of 50 that just don't want to understand that their time is CONT
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification getting short at the top and their insistence on using old business models is no longer going to work (Down with Gordon Gekko! Down with the aping of archaic Japanese business practices where the men at the top of the tower have a God complex-those ideas turned Japan into a nation in constant debt & turned certain Boomers into men and women with boundless greed and a penchant to blame others for their failures, not to mention made them lazy!!)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification This country should be pushing its young talent forward, not supressing it, not entrusting it with actual responsibility when their best years are complicated with children and the burdens of age-it is a recipe for decay. I myself graduated college 2 years ago and it was one of the top art schools in the nation. My degree is in graphics: I can build shit you see in Pixar films. Guess what?-The @#$@3 are outsourcing to Asia because the artist in Asia costs less than me!!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@Fifthyoutubification This is a very poor model for U.S. business in the long term. Those jobs enrich India, China, Singapore, etc. at OUR expense. They pour more money into those economies than they do ours. They also enable CEO's (most of them Boomers and a few X'ers) to keep ever larger bonuses and salaries for themselves and their shareholders. At the same time, most companies (not just film companies) that do this are hiring fewer and fewer young workers and (CONT)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude As I recall, the boomers once told Gen X to earn it, "do as I do and you will get your chance." Then I remember Gen X getting steamrolled by Boomers who refused to listen that the 60s & 70s were bad for anyone who had to be children back then (Moon Rainbow the Hippie or divorced Mom stoned in the hot tub with her umpteenth boyfriend really don't make good parents.)
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shadowkitty56
Very well put. I just graduated after four years of college. Nothing worse than having a dream and then being told you now must wait indefinitely for your life to really begin.
Fifthyoutubification 1 year ago
@shanodude Meanwhile, Generation Y has been watching. Very closely. Steve Jobs gets lionized for creating Apple products but the truth is the unsung heroes of that company are mostly upper mid-level Xers who are doing the real work, making the apps, choosing what will sell....and it is also the Xers who created GOOGLE that are reaping the most profit, several times more than Boomer lead Microsoft.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@shanodude SAT scores have been rising steadily for 15+ years. The techie tools you left for us have given a big foundation to build on, a path for the 21st century. Generation Y is not going to be fooled by being told "wait and work" because we know that leads nowhere. Boomers have to be told, firmly, to get out of the way or be hurled there. Gen Y has the numbers.....but like George Washington and the troops, they need leaders.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
Want to be a great generation? Learn to Enunciate. You mumbling Gen Y douche.
crjoker 1 year ago
Fanphuqintastic....and I am a boomer!!!!! Here it comes, I am passing the torch. Have you got it? Just one thing. We Boomers define ourselves by work so giving up creates super super hard role exit issues. Keep these videos coming...acerbic, witty, and oh yeah, TRUE!!!!!! ;)
Mac16111 1 year ago
@Mac16111 Here is a role I think you need to learn to swallow:
GRANDMA AND GRANDPA.
It is time. All of Gen X is of age and about half of Gen Y too. My sister gave birth to a baby girl 4 months ago and her future rests on you voluntarily jettisoning Social Security for a new program and passing from power so others can get beyond the Culture War. My grandparents didn't define themselves by what they did but rather who they loved. It is time to come to grips with that before its too late.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
What have you done to deserve this torch may i ask you. Have you proven yourself day in and day out in my face that you're the real thing?.
astronomysetec 1 year ago
To me boomers typically are very hard working innovators. Gen X represents a determined and pragmatic group that adapts and thinks outside the box; they did the work behind the recent changes in technology Youtube itself is an example. Gen Y represents people who still have time on their side with a cool optimism and are typically easy to get along with. What Im saying is that we all have our own "torch". As a nation it will take all of us to turn things around.
HigherLunatic1 1 year ago
Your generation "Rocked the vote". How's that hope and change working out for you?
mrdiesel2000 1 year ago
Uh, respectable activism in the first 15 years actually came from older generations.....MLK was not a boomer....
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 1 year ago
Also, consider that the avg "gen x'er" right now... is in their mid to late 30s. For most of them, their oldest child right now might be in high school... so gen x is really in the same boat as us, still just trying to establish themselves behind the baby boomers and get their lives together...
hollymaria 1 year ago
You are wrong to include gen x in your rant. Gen x got screwed more than gen y by the baby boomers. Gen x still haven't gotten a chance to do their thing because the baby boomers won't let go... You are right that gen x has a bitter middle-child thing going on that they need to let go of... For the record, I am gen Y... but don't be so quick to dog gen x... we should be working with them to overthrow the baby boomers. Everything else though, I agree with...
hollymaria 1 year ago
@hollymaria I don't think he is, I find them heavily destructive. Of course it's not all their fault, but they were old enough to vote for Bush...were they not? A lot of them were old enough to vote for Clinton too. (although they were young adults, so I don't know how much I can blame them.)
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
I don't get it. This guy looks like he's 40. Is he supposed to be representing 20 somethings?
ritter89 1 year ago
You really need to find something better to do with your time. I'm not a baby-boomer and arguably, not even a Gen-Xer (I was born in 1979 which makes me very borderline X/Y). But this kind of ranting, complaining nonsense is short-sighted at best and isn't productive in any way. Generations ALWAYS dump on those that follow and yours and mine won't be any different in this respect. You can either jump into this crap like many or BE BIGGER THAN THAT and rise above it.
bzurvalec 1 year ago
@bzurvalec
BS. Look what they did to the economy,wars,drug war,etc. They inherited all this wealth fro the ww2 economic prosperity. But now my generation faces constant police state,wars,debt and they want to cut programs like social security for my generation.They ruined this country and became corporate whores.We are the worst off generation. With the US in decline and screwing us over every chance.
jxsilicon9 1 year ago
@jxsilicon9 I'm not going to respond substantively to what you wrote because frankly, it's all over the place and I don't even know where to start with it. All I'll say for now (and I'm basically just REPEATING my previous posting) is that this "poor me/I'm a victim" mentality will get you NOWHERE in life. If you want to dwell on the faults of your predecessors, that's your prerogative. But this is NOT productive behavior and you're just wasting your time by doing this.
bzurvalec 1 year ago
@bzurvalec
Nobody needs to dwell. But you should call someone out when they fuck up.We will move on because we have no other choice. But that doesn't mean they get a pass.
jxsilicon9 1 year ago
y´s gonna suck like the boomers, u are one and the same!!
money and yourself is all u care about.
y´s are fighting the terror/boomerwar, great job assholes
najbjergpoulsen 1 year ago
Shut up fatty, your generation is doomed. haha
Dogfoodsa 1 year ago
# 1- Take some diction lessons. Pal. This B-Boomer had my hearing aid turned up to 'Eleven' and couldn't understad a) WFT ur saying & b) Your point, My parents actually didn't say my Gens music sucked 100%, because @least some of the stuff was beautiful! Ever heard of 'Yesterday' ? But whether you get yourself tatooed up the ying/yang, hang out @ malls, throw yourself into a Mosh Pit, get your faced pierced in 20 places or simply buy Rap Music w/o a Melody or Harmony, you really have NO CLUE!
ChicagoNeilcon 1 year ago
@ChicagoNeilcon Uhhh....I hate to break it to you, but some of the stuff your generation came out with does sound bloody ridiculous. "You can learn to be you in time," from All You Need is Love? Sounds like a fool who has read too many books on mind expansion.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@ChicagoNeilcon Blowing in the Wind? -Nice tune, but the world was distracted by your naked hairy balls at Woodstock. Should have been called "Blowing up my Ass."
Gen X did a fine job of music if you ask me, but the difference is that it wasn't into higher airy-fairy ideals like peace and love. It was into things that hit closer to home, closer to the heart....and not all of it was happy.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@ChicagoNeilcon A playlist:
Dreams-The Cranberries
Jeremy-Pearl Jam
December-Candlebox
Bullet with Butterfly Wings-Smashing Pumpkins
Addict-K's Choice
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shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@ChicagoNeilcon
The Offspring-Keep Em Separated
Runaway Train-Soul Asylum
Violet-Hole
Gin & Juice-Snoop Dogg
Lithium-Nirvana
Gangsta's Paradise-Coolio
Lightning Crashes-Live
The last one is a beautiful, heartbreaking song, with 10x the meaning than somebody who just lost a girlfriend.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
@ChicagoNeilcon . And BTW, the mosh pits were fun even for a 1982 Millie like me. At least the guy I was headbutting didn't try to sleep with me because he "wanted to expand his aura, duuude." The guy with the piercings was at least honest and taught me how to stage dive: "Kid, it's you 15th birthday?! Here, get on up-NOW JUMP LIKE MEEEEE!!!"
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
Good point (especially with the ''peace and love'' part!)
One thing those BOOMER FUCKS most commonly say when it comes to that is: ''we tried to change the world, but the world changed us.'' They seem to obsess over getting laid and fallen relationships. Like us Gen Xers, they too got fed up of their own parents. They claim their parents let them do nothing. At least their parents knew the BOOMERS were worthless shits.
Interests2009 1 year ago
Generation Y don't you shut the fuck up and stop your whining! XP
mindyhuskey 1 year ago
Please don't lump X with the Boomers.
I think it's premature to ask X to pass the torch too, the boomers are still holding it with their rotting fetid skeletal hands and they are planning to take that torch right to the grave.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago 3
We've only had two Baby Boomer presidents: Bush and Clinton and yet several WWII generation presidents: Kennedy, Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Carter, Ford, Reagan and Bush '41... and no post-war presidents like John McCain or Ron Paul. Boomers aren't as selfish as you think - don't believe the Gen X bromide.
thejobloshow 1 year ago
I thought this vid was funny but jesus christ learn to enunciate better. Half the things you say sound like mush in your mouth.
writergrrlxox 1 year ago
Generation X pass the torch? Yo pal... We never had it.
Gen X is about to take the "torch" from the hands of Baby Boomers. We are the MTV generation. We were there when it started.
astro10 2 years ago
I think Generation X and Generation Y are very similar...I think we should just merge both generations and call it "Generation Fucked" because that's what the Boomers did to us.
materiom 2 years ago 4
This guys sittin there bitchin about how the previous generations have'nt pass the torch. Hey dude, there's something you don't understand, the "torch" completely bypassed generation x. Open your eyes golden child the millenials already have the torch. Good luck! Try not to fuck it up, more then it already is!
shmbonn 2 years ago 2
@shmbonn There's so many things wrong with this stupid video that I could really go on forever. But piggybacking on your comment, the other thing this guy doesn't get is that if you want something in this world, you need to GO AND GET IT. It's a tough world we live in and nobody is going to just "pass you" anything, nor do they have an obligation to.
bzurvalec 1 year ago
Yeah pass the torch over that dirty generation xr's head. Im a generation x. Time will show who the real scum is.
festiveclown 2 years ago
Sir, try opening your mouth when you talk.
ErinGoBraless 2 years ago
To the Babyboomers, you stole my youth with your bullshit premise of "if you generation Xers follow the same path and rules as the Boomers did/do or made up along the way, you can obtain the same as what Boomers have. One of the greatest cons of all time. Boomers, if I have to, I will take it, and it will not be pretty for you when we TAKE your golden years.
weilandjason 2 years ago 8
@weilandjason
Boomers also lied to us in the education system....telling us that we HAD to have a college degree to get a high paying job. Now, college grads can't find work because the fucking Boomers won't retire...they won't let us work.
materiom 2 years ago
@weilandjason Hey, dude, it ain't no picnic being their CHILDREN either. It is strange: as kids, they told us that, "one day, you will take over from me and all the sun touches shall be yours." Nowadays, they infantilize us by helicoptering and kick and scream when we ask for the keys to Hollywood and Washington: NOOOO! I AM STILL YOUNG AND BEAUUTIFULL!! YOUNG, HIP, BEAUTIFUL!! YOU ARE STILL A BABY IN YOUR CRIB AND HAVE NO EXPERIENCE!! BEGONE, BACK TO THE PLAYPEN WITH YOU!!
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
Exactly right - Gen X never had the "torch" dude, but we are about to - don't mix us in with Baby Boomers - because we're not them,and they are not us. They sold out -
We're not 'bitter" - we're pissed off - know the difference.
astro10 2 years ago