I re-watched this and noticed you had said that your wife doesn't use the horn very often - I've come to believe that letting your horn just sit without use can actually be bad, as the diaphragm might become stuck from rust or whatever works it's way into the horn!
@vgarciajuan No, it actually sounds way better than it did. The camera doesn't show the volume difference from the previous set of horns because of the automatic input recording levels that most cameras have. Tone quality and volume are both better.
@raugilmx Thanks! Yes, it is a very pretty color. The new horns are roughly 400/500 hz, but I've noticed some variation among that brand over the years, even though they're technically I think 400/490. The variations could be due to the fact that they're tuned by hand in a lab, and they tune them for optimal loudness, rather than note. And probably slight variations on the assembly line. Kinda interesting.
@bwelmhouse1 I agree. I've had several pairs of these Fiamm horns and used the heck out of them without a single failure. Still have two pair left, sold one pair to a friend. While trying to find different places to mount the one pair though, I did bend the connectors - too many times (losing one connector is all it takes...). That's the only weak point on these horns, they bend off really easily. But as long as you don't touch 'em, they'll be fine! Now I'm using old Cadillac horns though :)
@vietnamrebel You can consider me a crazy Fiamm horn expert! lol I've taken them apart, conducted endurance tests in a sound chamber, tested them at various temperatures ranging from -20 F to 200+ F, etc, over the years. I'm fascinated by how electronics work under different conditions. And I've had around 100 of these Fiamms between the time they were made bigger to more compact like they are now. They last an incredible amount of time! If kept from overheating........
@vietnamrebel ......they can blow straight for at least 9 hours. But having a set-up to prevent overheating is very difficult. They get very hot after one minute of solid sounding. And yes, I've lost one to a terminal snapping off too. The only bad thing is, the Fiamm AM80S low tone (not all, but many) tends to sound not as good at temperatures below 40 F, and progressively sounds more like a dying duck past 30 F. Above 85 F, the piercing sharpness sound fades. Crazy mad scientist I am!!
@bwelmhouse1 All along I thought I was crazy thinking my horn would be louder on colder days back when I had the Fiamms! I too have noticed how on hotter days that the horn is almost unnoticeable! Nobody believed me when I said the horn isn't as loud when it's hot out and changes tone based on temperature! I experiment a bit too, right now I play around with old Delco-Remy horns. I put yet another set of the D F A C note horns on my car two days ago that sounded better, and wow!
@bwelmhouse1 The difference was amazing, they sounded like a Cadillac instead of a mismatched train horn haha. The adjustment screw is a nice way to change volume, but sometimes it messes with the balance between certain notes. Not as noticeable on 2-note set ups, but with the dim. 7th chord of the 4-note horn, it's much more noticeable! You should look into getting some at a junk yard from a 80's-90's Cadillac DeVille, Fleetwood or Buick Roadmaster. They get everyone's attention!
@vietnamrebel ......and I often will turn the adjusting screw a 1/4 turn counter-clockwise when buying a new low-tone. It seems the factory doesn't always keep loudness, sharpness and clarity in mind when tuning the the low tone ones. Then again I'm crazy and picky! lol
Nice video. I'm glad to see that your OEM relay worked for the new set of FIAMM replacement horns. The fact that you were replacing the pair of horns, eliminated the need to add the FIAMM relay resulting in extra wiring.
Even on my Toyota Corolla which only had a relay designed for a small disc horn (3 amp), I managed to install 2 Fiamm horns as I did in this video, and the combined 11 amps didn't seem to cause any problems. Although I did later upgrade the relay to a higher amp one just in case the smaller one didn't deliver its full load (on my Corolla, not the Camry in this vid).
Fiamm snail shell horns are rated at 5.5 amps a piece and disc horns are typically 3-4 amps a piece.
Im having problems with the horn in my vehicle, '02 pontiac aztek, how do i replace it where i don't even know where it is? What is the correct fuse amps/voltage for it anyways? Maybe i just need to change a fuse. I don't know!! i need help.
Let's start with this: Does the horn work at all? If it makes any sound at all, it's not the fuse. If the horn makes no sound whatsoever, go ahead and try changing the fuse. It's the cheapest replacement part and always good to rule out cheaper fixes first. If it was the fuse, it would be good to determine what caused the fuse to blow in the first place. You know, if something is shorting out. As far as finding the horn, you might try googling it or looking at a service repair manual.
Another way of finding the horn if it makes any sound at all, would be to have someone else honk it, while you listen for where it is. Just don't blow your eardrums out!
Because apparently, Denso makes horns that don't last. A warranty fix would've replaced them with another set of Densos. Besides, I'm not cheap. I can afford $30 for a brand that other people have had good luck with.
this sort of reminds me of taking out my horns on my pickup truck. The one behind my drivers side head light (High tone) is quite a challenge, the low tone is right behind the Chevy logo in the grill and I took them out and put them back in about 100 times now LOL. it gets easier every time.
Fortunately on my Toyota Corolla there's plenty of room to work with, so a horn swap would only take maybe 2 mins, with no struggle whatsoever. But that was the first thing I did when I bought the car. No more meep meep.
Ahh those Fiamm horn's Draw 5 Amp's each My 1999 camry's meep meep 2 horns and 3rd denso drew 12 Amps and the 2 free way hi/low's take 5 sooo 22 amp's Soo I got a relay to protect my stock horn switch Wooo.
Just clicking. I'll bet that's the sound of the relay. That probably means the relay works as well as the contacts in the steering wheel. Does her car have one or two horns? Well, you have a project cut out for you! I was excited when I had this one. LOL
My sisters 91 Honda Civic has one disc horn located behind the front bumper on the passengers side. it worked just fine about a month ago. the horn it self just does a clicking I'll make a video next time her car is over here.
hahaha "the horn is f----- is going bad"
neo4reals 1 month ago
hey, are you the one who make the video "car horns installed on a bicycle"?
Khipzable 4 months ago
open the grill stupid!!!!
Yussueff 5 months ago
@Yussueff Can't as easily!
bwelmhouse1 5 months ago
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iluvbogs 6 months ago
I re-watched this and noticed you had said that your wife doesn't use the horn very often - I've come to believe that letting your horn just sit without use can actually be bad, as the diaphragm might become stuck from rust or whatever works it's way into the horn!
vietnamrebel 1 year ago
@vietnamrebel I've wondered about that. That is a great point you make.
bwelmhouse1 11 months ago
dude i hav a matrix and it has this lame high Beep sound..i wanna change it to get a really butch soundin horn..:(
ultrabeat0 1 year ago
Now it sounds as bad as it used to. And a little extra lower.
vgarciajuan 1 year ago
@vgarciajuan No, it actually sounds way better than it did. The camera doesn't show the volume difference from the previous set of horns because of the automatic input recording levels that most cameras have. Tone quality and volume are both better.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
A horn that Dies in 1 year? JAP SCRAP!!
jagajg 1 year ago
@jagajg So you're saying American cars are more reliable? Please.
ModelAirports 1 year ago
Beautiful Color! Nautical Blue! How many hz do the new horns have?? 400/500 or 500/600?
raugilmx 1 year ago
@raugilmx Thanks! Yes, it is a very pretty color. The new horns are roughly 400/500 hz, but I've noticed some variation among that brand over the years, even though they're technically I think 400/490. The variations could be due to the fact that they're tuned by hand in a lab, and they tune them for optimal loudness, rather than note. And probably slight variations on the assembly line. Kinda interesting.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
Why not make the dealer fix it under warrentee for free?
auxmike 1 year ago 2
@auxmike B/c Fiamms in my opinion are more reliable.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
@bwelmhouse1 I agree. I've had several pairs of these Fiamm horns and used the heck out of them without a single failure. Still have two pair left, sold one pair to a friend. While trying to find different places to mount the one pair though, I did bend the connectors - too many times (losing one connector is all it takes...). That's the only weak point on these horns, they bend off really easily. But as long as you don't touch 'em, they'll be fine! Now I'm using old Cadillac horns though :)
vietnamrebel 1 year ago
@vietnamrebel You can consider me a crazy Fiamm horn expert! lol I've taken them apart, conducted endurance tests in a sound chamber, tested them at various temperatures ranging from -20 F to 200+ F, etc, over the years. I'm fascinated by how electronics work under different conditions. And I've had around 100 of these Fiamms between the time they were made bigger to more compact like they are now. They last an incredible amount of time! If kept from overheating........
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
@vietnamrebel ......they can blow straight for at least 9 hours. But having a set-up to prevent overheating is very difficult. They get very hot after one minute of solid sounding. And yes, I've lost one to a terminal snapping off too. The only bad thing is, the Fiamm AM80S low tone (not all, but many) tends to sound not as good at temperatures below 40 F, and progressively sounds more like a dying duck past 30 F. Above 85 F, the piercing sharpness sound fades. Crazy mad scientist I am!!
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
@bwelmhouse1 All along I thought I was crazy thinking my horn would be louder on colder days back when I had the Fiamms! I too have noticed how on hotter days that the horn is almost unnoticeable! Nobody believed me when I said the horn isn't as loud when it's hot out and changes tone based on temperature! I experiment a bit too, right now I play around with old Delco-Remy horns. I put yet another set of the D F A C note horns on my car two days ago that sounded better, and wow!
vietnamrebel 1 year ago
@bwelmhouse1 The difference was amazing, they sounded like a Cadillac instead of a mismatched train horn haha. The adjustment screw is a nice way to change volume, but sometimes it messes with the balance between certain notes. Not as noticeable on 2-note set ups, but with the dim. 7th chord of the 4-note horn, it's much more noticeable! You should look into getting some at a junk yard from a 80's-90's Cadillac DeVille, Fleetwood or Buick Roadmaster. They get everyone's attention!
vietnamrebel 1 year ago
@vietnamrebel ......and I often will turn the adjusting screw a 1/4 turn counter-clockwise when buying a new low-tone. It seems the factory doesn't always keep loudness, sharpness and clarity in mind when tuning the the low tone ones. Then again I'm crazy and picky! lol
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
@hkpoctb Okay............??
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
@malachitheatre They're actually louder, but the camera doesn't show it because of the auto mic gain.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
you must have extra cash laying around.... sounded the same to me.
TUBANOW2 1 year ago
@TUBANOW2 No, had extra horns laying around. They're much louder, but the camera doesn't show that because of the auto mic gain.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
did the piaa kit include the jumper wires?
I saw most horns on sale come with two terminals but some are one and two...
hmmm. should have payed attention in shop call... hehe
DimachkaS 1 year ago
Nice job
instead of coming from under the splash guard, you should of just popped of the grill
RandyTDo 2 years ago
@RandyTDo True! Didn't think of that one. I wouldn't have had to call my wife out there. lol
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
same voliume of sound but just difrent ;)
popovicnebojsa 2 years ago
@popovicnebojsa They're actually louder, but the camera doesn't show it because of the auto mic gain.
bwelmhouse1 1 year ago
Nice video. I'm glad to see that your OEM relay worked for the new set of FIAMM replacement horns. The fact that you were replacing the pair of horns, eliminated the need to add the FIAMM relay resulting in extra wiring.
Randalkurt 2 years ago
Even on my Toyota Corolla which only had a relay designed for a small disc horn (3 amp), I managed to install 2 Fiamm horns as I did in this video, and the combined 11 amps didn't seem to cause any problems. Although I did later upgrade the relay to a higher amp one just in case the smaller one didn't deliver its full load (on my Corolla, not the Camry in this vid).
Fiamm snail shell horns are rated at 5.5 amps a piece and disc horns are typically 3-4 amps a piece.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
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toyota sux dat y
Jutt08 2 years ago
damn thay was a long blow lol the last part at the end was funny how u tested hem both lol and yeahh t does sound different
x3davidlovesicarly 2 years ago
Im having problems with the horn in my vehicle, '02 pontiac aztek, how do i replace it where i don't even know where it is? What is the correct fuse amps/voltage for it anyways? Maybe i just need to change a fuse. I don't know!! i need help.
Lunafriskykitty 2 years ago
Let's start with this: Does the horn work at all? If it makes any sound at all, it's not the fuse. If the horn makes no sound whatsoever, go ahead and try changing the fuse. It's the cheapest replacement part and always good to rule out cheaper fixes first. If it was the fuse, it would be good to determine what caused the fuse to blow in the first place. You know, if something is shorting out. As far as finding the horn, you might try googling it or looking at a service repair manual.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Another way of finding the horn if it makes any sound at all, would be to have someone else honk it, while you listen for where it is. Just don't blow your eardrums out!
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
the car is still under warranty yet you fix them why?
zachgeyer 2 years ago
Because apparently, Denso makes horns that don't last. A warranty fix would've replaced them with another set of Densos. Besides, I'm not cheap. I can afford $30 for a brand that other people have had good luck with.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Ahh (: Now I have 7 horns on my Camry Le (:
Yup New well, Two new videos up
bwelmhouse1 (:
200twistatwista 2 years ago 4
Awesome! I'll check it out.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
You know I Like the Toyota Camry its cool and nice horn that you have
Georgejoyrider 2 years ago
Yes, Toyota Camry is very reliable and as far as the horn, FIAMM brand is the best.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
NICE save at .10 seconds hahahahaha
twoohhfive 2 years ago
Yeah I was going to replace the horn on my friends 2008 Kia Spectra, but his car got wrecked before I could.
repeatman 2 years ago
this sort of reminds me of taking out my horns on my pickup truck. The one behind my drivers side head light (High tone) is quite a challenge, the low tone is right behind the Chevy logo in the grill and I took them out and put them back in about 100 times now LOL. it gets easier every time.
repeatman 2 years ago
Fortunately on my Toyota Corolla there's plenty of room to work with, so a horn swap would only take maybe 2 mins, with no struggle whatsoever. But that was the first thing I did when I bought the car. No more meep meep.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Ahh those Fiamm horn's Draw 5 Amp's each My 1999 camry's meep meep 2 horns and 3rd denso drew 12 Amps and the 2 free way hi/low's take 5 sooo 22 amp's Soo I got a relay to protect my stock horn switch Wooo.
I love Fiamm also.
200twistatwista 2 years ago
Yep, very durable brand. You have 5 horns altogether?
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Yup lol I can make a video of them uder the hood also later (:
Love ur video's also (:
Oh yeah Well those fiamm I have the Free way blaster edition made to get attention rated 132 DB each. Cost 15 each Soo Im like awesome (:
200twistatwista 2 years ago
Thank you. :) Would love to see your video when you post it!
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
I put new horns in my sisters car
repeatman 2 years ago
Awesome, I'll check out your vid.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
BTW I am thinking of replacing my sisters horn in her car because her horn doesn't even work at all! It just makes a Clicking noise LOL
repeatman 2 years ago
Just clicking. I'll bet that's the sound of the relay. That probably means the relay works as well as the contacts in the steering wheel. Does her car have one or two horns? Well, you have a project cut out for you! I was excited when I had this one. LOL
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
My sisters 91 Honda Civic has one disc horn located behind the front bumper on the passengers side. it worked just fine about a month ago. the horn it self just does a clicking I'll make a video next time her car is over here.
repeatman 2 years ago
Awesome, I'll be looking out for it.
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Dude! I am putting Delco Remy Cadillac horns on my 1989 Chevy silverado. there are FOUR Horns! musical notes D, F, A, and C,
repeatman 2 years ago
On the 3rd car I owned, I had four Stebel Magnum highway blasters wired in. Boy was it loud!
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago
Good video and glad to see you getting out.
BrainScanMedia 2 years ago
Gotta stay busy, right?
bwelmhouse1 2 years ago