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  • The Ducatis are always compared to 600s or 750s where the Ducati has a displacement advantage.

    Compare the 848 to a 900 like a ZX-9 Kawasaki, way closer to the same displacement.

    Kawasaki, more torque, more horse power......Ducati, a dot in the rear view mirror.

  • @triumph1974 The ZX9 is an abortion.. overweight crapbox. Hence, you dont see too many out on the track unless its a track day. The 848 makes close to the same power and weighs a wheel borrow less. Kawasaki is the 4th place loser in bigs 4 ranking.

  • @triumph1974 Heavier heavier heavier.

  • Giordanico- a gsxr 750 has 150hp????? where are you getting your numbers at?

  • @dmckenna68 GSX-R 750 claims 150hp, do some research. you'll find it

  • @dmckenna68 the 2011 gsxr 750 is more like 125 real rwhp. an 07 is 118 real rwhp

  • The first turn after the pit line remembers me the first of Portimato in Portugal! It's very similar: a turn to the right downhill!

    Anyway Suzuki GSX-R 750 has 150 HP, the Ducati 848 "just" 134...

    Anyway I LOVE DUCATI!

  • 20cv di differenza

  • with two drivers of equal skill they would probably draw.... ducati shits on it in torque but as i said, a good inline four driver will ALWAYS be in the high revs... In which a ducati's torque is meaningless.

  • Puta video bosra do caralho !!! Tem que ser igual no brasil coloca uma camera na moto e põe ela na Bandeirantes !!!!

  • dose eney 1 no if the ducati 848 is raster then the 600 for instence the r6,gsxr,daytona,,ninga,cbr, eney 1 no plz could u send a message ?

  • Dude on the GSXR could improve his riding posture...specifically head and arm positions.

  • I was thinking the same thing. Looking at him, his arse is in the right position, aswell as his knee. He shouldent be trying to put his head and shoulders back up on the bike as if he was going in a straight line...

    Nice video though.

  • Hi Guys Good vid' Ducati is a good looking bike but on the track against a Gixxer 750????? I don't know.

  • 750 has better acceleration, but top end, brakes, tyres, suspension all belong to the 848.

  • With the difference in price i will make my 750 much better at brakes, suspension and tyres than any 848

  • Yes, this is good, but I'm a collector of fine things and the 848 is fine indeed.

  • If it were a 1098 or 1198 yes, but the 848 brakes and suspension hardware really isn't much better if any to ones on a stock gixxer 750, they are standard Showa units and the really low end Brembo calipers. I have ridden both bikes, the Duc is sweet bike i find the gixxer 750 more forgiving when you enter the turn a hair too fast tho ;)

  • @mitchellchapman1 Cline mine!!!! 750 is better from all points of view!!! 848 is just an imitation of 750!!!

  • @mitchellchapman1 Dude, the brakes, tyres, and suspension, fine...but you just said that an 848 has better top end than a GSXR 750, lol. What moron told you that ridiculous rubbish lol?

  • @kj7687 lol another moron thats ridden both bikes. 848 shits all over gixer. And as for the acceleration the ducati has twice as much torque so how do people think that the gixer has better acceleration?

  • The guy in front on the Suzuki has horrible body position, and he and the guy on the Ducati has horrible lines. If that's how they ride when they're testing, I don't think I'll put much stock in their opinions of the bikes. Everything changes when you get up to speed.

  • though the gixxer might beat us in the straights, he can see us later with all the chix hanging around our way kool Ducati....while he hangs around with all the 1,000,000,000 18 year old squids with a Gixxer!

  • im sorry you depend on our bike to get you girls.

  • suzuki rules

  • kawasaki rulezz..!

  • Let the Italian designer desin the look of the bike and let japan engineers and technicians to make it . It will be the best bike of the world

  • You wouldn't miss the V-twin?

  • ducati is better as a motorcycle but expensive...

  • 1:55 looks like hes driving backwards xDD

  • 848 pias

  • gsxr 750!

  • ♥Ducati 4 life...=D♥

  • which one is better?

  • Would it shock you if I commented on your channel and told you to stop spamming like an idiot?

  • to dukearty below ; i do 20 thou a yr on sports bikes!! do you think an 848 could cope with high hard miles n track days thrown in.. i love this bike and its gonna cripple me financialy to get one but i dont mind if it lasts!!! whats the best ducati shop in the midlands uk? be carefull out there guys .. they are out to get us!!!

  • u r from UK and u want an italian bike :P

    Im from greece and i love UK bikes :P Viva la triumph :P

  • sti due non sanno proprio come guidare una moto

  • the rider dont know how to ride a bike

  • Sorry but this just looks like a normal track day and not a real comparison of the Ducati vs GSXR. Plus both riders looked like they were afraid of dumping the bike and having to pay for the damages compared to actually riding it to it's limits.

    But hey that just my $.02

  • ciao ciao ducati!

  • LA GSX-R 750 VA VIA ALLA GRANDE!!!

  • four wheels move the body, two... move the soul.

  • more evenly matched than i thought!!

    i miss almeria - it was good to see an onboard lap as a reminder!

  • waste of MONEY!!!! get the 675 and then drop 4000 bucks into it and own... for a lightweight

  • Pass that bike!!!!

  • low power ducati

  • I love how people who are jealous that can't afford a Ducati try to bust on the bike and compare their cookie cutter Gixxers to a masterpiece.

  • I have to agree with you man, Ducati's are a Masterpeice in ELECTRICIAL WIRING NIGHTMARES for most of their poor owners who wish that their bikes were built like the Said cookie Gixer's

  • wow! i had a 996 for 6 years and did over 20k road miles and spanked it for many track miles and a couple of races - the only electrical problem i had was the battery dying and the japanese made regulator packing up!

    but i'd rather have my 675 than either the 848 or the gixxer now!

    but none of them suck - the duc is just expensive.....

  • only 20k in 6 years?

  • --"only 20k in 6 years?"---

    The last 3 years was actually all track miles - the 996 is no comfy touring bike........

    Besides, it was in the UK - how many decent biking days do you think we get?

    LOL!

  • i got a gixxer 6 that i have put around 50+k miles on in a year.. but like u said.. i live in florida so its bike weather year round and i dont got a car..

    so i drive it everywhere

  • ---"but like u said.. i live in florida so its bike weather year round"---

    I hate you!!!! LOL!!

    Yeah, my job takes me away from home for weeks at a time too

    might have to make room for me down in FL - I track dayed Daytona last year....

  • ahuahuahuahu ma perche' c era anche paragone tra una suz 750 e una 848???ahuhuaauh e' ovvio ke vince la suzuki :D

  • proof that the 848 hangs with the 750

  • what 400cc bike would you reccomend for £900 or under, can be any type of bikes

  • Cuántos dicen que "si la mía pesa 4 kg menos". Sí, y tú pesas 15 kg más que yo, anda ya... O que si "en los test la mía va 0,5 s más rápido por vuelta" Y qué, si tú eres 10 segundos más lento que el probador... Esto es como la discusión en coches de que si tracción delantera o trasera. Allá cada uno, amí me gusta la Ducati, por marca, espíritu, varios factores que puden no tener nada que ver con la potencia, peso o tiempo de vuelta. Disfrutad y dejaos de tonterías, que no os pagan por ganar!

  • Estoy deacuerdo con lo que voz diceis!!! no importa nada las decimas mas o menos, solo importa la libertad que sentis cuando vuelas...

    cuatro nehumaticos mueven el cuerpo, dos... el alma....

  • Parece que es imposible que cuando en el título aparece el término "VS", la gente no acabe insultándose. Vamos, que no somos peques... Las Ducati y las japos son dos formas de pilotar diferentes, distinto feeling, mismo objetivo: disfrutar!!! Y que cada cual se compre la que quiera (o pueda) y se olvide de que si una décima por aquí por o par allí, que si mas par en bajos, que si mas potencia en altos...

  • para circuito prefiero antes la Ducati que cualquier japonesa, lo más importante en circuito es una buena tracción y un buen paso x curva, ducati es claramente superior a todas sus rivales en esos aspectos gracias a su motor bicilindico, chasis tubular y sistema desmo. por no decir que los frenos y las suspensiones de las ducati estan un paso x delante de las demás.

  • libro friki??, anda multivesa vete a dormir y despiertate, te han explicado cojonudamente la diferencia entre un motor tetra y otro bi y aun erre que erre, tu sigue con tus teorias, que gracias a tu manera de pensar voy al circuito los sabados y me fundo a gente como tu con muchos mas cvs y menos peso por no tener ni idea de las armas del rival, si tan mal van las ducati porque han ganado 12 de las 18 ediciones de las SBK?, la competicion mas famosa de motos derivadas de las de serie???ignorante

  • Both are great bikes.

    Is just a question of personal choice!

    I got the GSXR 750 K8.

    But the Ducati is also very good!

  • I mean:

    The bikes that got 4 cilynders in line can get higher speed because they get more rotation.

  • So much Theory! The V motors dont loose rotation so easly. So, the V motors got more acelaration.

    But on bikes the 4 in line got higher speed.

    On the trak is anouther story! Gotto have the SKILL!!!

  • What a load of rubbish! They accelerate because the design and tuning of the engine means they produce more torque. Once you climb above the peak torque output, the acceleration relies on power output to keep accelerating. Inline 4's typically make more power but you have to keep the engine in the "power" section of the curve. This makes it more difficult to get the power down because the tyre doesn't have enough time to recover between power pulses and therefore slips.

  • On the track it isnt another story, Ducati has to have a CC advantage to come close to competing........read the stats.

  • and for your information Ducati runs an L engine, not a V

  • semantics

  • ENGINE

    Type: L-Twin cylinder, 4 valve per cylinder Desmodromic, liquid cooled

    Displacement: 849.4 cc

    I wrote about the V and the 4 in line cylinders motors because every comment is about it.

    The best or the worst bike donesn't means nothing to me. Bouth are great. No doubt.

    Its all about your choice.

  • umm. noooo... its called L because of the 90degree angle it has

  • It is not just an L because of the 90 degree angle, you get 90 degree V's.........it is an L because it has one horizontal and one vertical cylinder. So how about you read and comprehend before you type.

  • The Ducati looks better, but the GSX-R sounds better. I've never liked the sound of v-twins.

  • it's an L twin it think instead of a v

  • Ducati like to call it L-twin, but it's really just a V-twin with 90 degrees between the cylinders.

  • yeah i know. its just on an angle. check out the desmosedici v4 that bike sounds sweet AND is probably the prettiest bike i've ever seen.

  • Como suena la Gsxr!!!!!!!!, en curvas se notan las manos y el de la Ducati va más fino,

  • I just bought an 848 on Saturday and it is absolutely amazing!

  • Congrats! I tested one for the last two weekends. The first time I rode it, I called it satan! The second time, I realized what a truly well put together machine it is. It feels like it could do no wrong and go as fast as humanly necessary. Enjoy, you lucky rider!

  • the 848 is my dream bike. u r 1 lucky person

  • i ride a duke,, but hey,, this is wat i say ,, BRING BACK GP500 ,, those were the days !!! yea boi!!

  • V-twin motors are heavier which is part of the reason they get to be bigger... two heads vs 1 but the advantage isn't just for ducs, Its for any V-twin im pretty sure...

  • "Why not just reduce 4's to 800cc and bring in a new 800cc class. Twins can be 999cc?"

    Not many would want to buy a 800cc I-4 bike. The GSX-R 750 would sell like hot cakes but everyone wants MORE. SBK is a production bike series. The only reason the factories are in SBK is to SELL bikes.

  • That's the way SBK was before the change. 4 cyl were limited to 750cc and twins 1000cc. It's difficult to spin a twin much over 11,000 rpm so they are limited for top end power by that. How do you think F1 cars get 800 hp out of 2,400 cc? 20,000 rpm!

  • Ha, ha, you're funny!

  • basically i just wanna say, can everyone who doesn't know what they're talking about just shut the hell up! Ducati bikes are amazing. i'm assuming all of you who trash talk them probably haven't ridden one. also about the whole 1200cc with the twins and 1000cc with the 4cyl.... its so that they are both on a competitive level. if japan created a twin superbike it also would have to have a displacement of 1200cc to compete with the 1000cc 4cyl. so seriously shut up if you don't know.

  • In June 2007 the FIM announced that the engine capacity limit would increase to 1200cc for 2008.

  • Different engine characteristics. Twins have an advantage exiting turns etc. Also twins usually are easier on tyres. I think the first couple of meetings speak volumes about the new Ducati cup. Why not just reduce 4's to 800cc and bring in a new 800cc class. Twins can be 999cc? WSBK is now a joke.

  • RE: tjcarr70

    so destroy all jap 1000cc lines jus for the ducati to keep its 1000cc?

    then the public wouldnt buy the new jap bikes...

    so no, that wouldnt happen

  • tanto ducati tanto ducati y luego mira.

    no puede con la gsx a pesar d k tiene 100 cc mas y es bicilindrica, cosa k le permitiria entrar mejor en curva

  • Multivesa yo lo plantearía de la siguiente manera: la Suzuki con 150 CV y 163 kg de peso no puede despegarse de una bicilíndrica con 134CV y 173kg. ¿Cómo se te queda el cuerpo entonces?

    Vivan las Ducati, que con 2 perolos igualan a las tetras en rendimiento.

  • Una que te repito tiene 16CV más y 10kg menos de peso gracias a su motor tetra, y que no puede despegarse de la Ducati que es bi, y como bi que es necesita bastante más cilindrada que un tetra para igualar potencia. Y si la Ducati es tan exclusiva es precisamente por su motor bicilíndrico que tantos admiradores tiene, entre ellos yo mismo.

  • Me parece que el que habla sin saber eres tú.

    Cito textualmente del libro Arias Paz "Mecánica de Motocicletas", 32ª Edición, página 45 (lo pongo en varios mensajes que no me cabe):

    "Dejando a un lado consideraciones sobre la suavidad y regularidad de marcha [...] se puede afirmar que [...] siempre que se ha aumentado el número de cilindros ha sido en busca de mayor potencia. Esto es así porque en cualquier motor sólo existen dos formas de incrementarla con facilidad, que son aumentar la cilind

  • rada, o elevar el régimen de funcionamiento.

    [...]

    Es evidente, el mejor camino es dividir el trabajo entre varios cilindros. Éstos, al ser más pequeños, disponen de una masa menor que permite aumentar el régimen, de modo que se aumenta el número de explosiones en un mismo tiempo. ESTO COMPENSA LA MENOR CILINDRADA [...] Por tanto A IGUALDAD DE CILINDRADA SE AUMENTA LA POTENCIA DEL MOTOR. [...]

    2.3 Ventajas e inconvenientes (del motor pluricilíndrico):

  • En primer lugar hay que destacar LA MAYOR POTENCIA PARA IGUAL CILINDRADA [...]. Siempre hay excepciones y marcas que, por distintos motivos, se especializan en motores concretos, por ejemplo DUCATI, que con sus bicilíndricos HA CONSEGUIDO BATIR EN MUCHAS OCASIONES A LOS MOTORES DE CUATRO CILINDROS [...]."

    Como ves el número de cilindros de una moto AFECTA DIRECTAMENTE en la potencia que entrega AUNQUE LA CILINDRADA TOTAL del motor SEA MENOR que la de una bi. Así que lo extraño es que Ducati

  • con 2 cilindros logre igualar la potencia de los motores tetra, pero lo hace aumentando la cilindrada bastante por encima que la competencia tetra y empleando el sistema de accionamiento de válvulas desmodrómico.

    Como ves alguna idea de mecánica tengo, y no hablo por hablar, de hecho asesoro en temas de mecánica en un foro de motos (por cierto bicilíndricas). Y por supuesto te invito a coger el Arias Paz de motocicletas o cualquier libro de mecánica de motores y comprobarás que lo que digo

  • es 100% cierto. Saludos.

  • el último mensaje se ha quedado descolocado no sé por qué... (Lee abajo).

  • Chico mucha idea no muestras la verdad,cuantos más cilindros tengas,mayor es el regimen de vueltas que puedes conseguir.Los tetras consiguen potencia a base de subir revoluciones del motor.Un ejemplo:las 600cc pueden subir hasta 15.000 o 16.000 vueltas,miéntras que un Bi no suele pasar de las 10.000rpm.Esto es porque los tetra si puéden ganar potencia aumentando sus revoluciones,miéntras que los bi,lo hacen a base de subir cilindrada.Antes de despotricar sobre algo que desconoces,documentate más

  • tu sigue con tu libro friki, y pagando mas por menos prestaciones. de todas formas m dan igual todos sus esfuerzos y meritos. seguire comprando motos japonesas

  • Y yo motos italianas. Libro friqui dice, por lo menos me informo antes de hablar sin tener ni puñetera idea de lo que hablo.

    Saludos y hasta nunca, gente como tú sois los que hundís la imagen de los moteros y del mundo motero.

  • tengo mucha mas idea que tu, y no comprendo xk dices que undo la imagen de los moteros y del mundo motero. de todas formas m da igual. seguramente ni sikiera seas motero

  • I love Ducati. I'm on my L's now and I bought a Honda VTR250 because I love the look and sound of the monster so much. But I think when it comes to racing technology the Japanese bikes are better. That said, once I'm off my L's I want a Ducati just because they sound so good!

  • Also, a busa or a zx14 would get WRECKED in racing. They'll pull away on the straights but will get PWNED in the turns. Its all about corner speed man. Perfect example, 800cc GP bikes are now lapping as fast or FASTER than the 990cc bikes from 2 years ago.  So like I said, your arguments show you know nothing!

  • WOW. There's NO POINT in trying to argue with people who lack reading comprehension. I hate to generalize the gixxer riding population, but there are admittedly A LOT of idiots riding gixxers, with two of them here trying to argue something they obviously know nothing about. Ducati no longer races in AMA SBK because a 1000cc V-twin is NOT competitive with 1000cc 4cyl's. That is why they allowed 1200cc in WSBK. Idiot! You can't look at engine size alone for power son!

  • Engine displacement is hardly the only thing that factors into power production in completely different types of engines. I think explaining the engineering behind this, and why you can't think the way you do, would be like explaining calculus to a 5 year old. WSBK is based on PRODUCTION BIKES, not on engine size, as in GP racing, so it is up to the racing committee to quantify the differences between engines, and decide what is allowed in each class.

  • that would be because the gp ducati bike is a v4.

  • i hope fastergixxer doesn't actually ride a bike. i'd like to think that people from a slightly deeper gene pool represent riders.

    Comparing V-twins and 4cyl bikes is like comparing 2 & 4 strokes.

    Perhaps if you'd bothered to ever get out and ride a bike of any description you would realise this.

    That 750 has some poke for sure!

  • thats no lie! i have a k6 750 and i ran my friend on his 03 zx9. he had nothing to say for an excuse after the several times i beat him.

  • 90% rider/10% bike do do head..

  • yeh i was about to tell these squids off, the slightest better in rideing skill will leave somone in the dust on the track

  • the Italian do it better..more better..

    Ducati,MV Agusta,Morini,Guzzi,Laverda..e­tc...

    these are dreams, the jap make only little bike...

  • Italian bikes are good, but they're not better. They're different and special, but not better. A motorcycle is a motorcycle, Japanese or Italian, if you love it then it is your dream. Because in the end, motorcycles are machines, and we have the power to breathe life into them by loving it and riding it.

  • Max respect my friends..but the bike is something more for a biker..and a ducati have a heart, and only if you have a heart ,you can feel it..

  • I just love all bikes, Japanese Italian British... it doesn't matter I think they're all awesome. Pretty soon I'm going to buy a new bike, and I'm not sure if I want the new 1000RR or the 848...

  • Ducati is MotoGP and Superbike winner.. Kiss my Italian ass..

  • You guys... a twin and an inline four are COMPLETELY different bikes, and are better in different situations. (like twin having a lot more low end usable torque.) that is like comparing two stroke and four stroke dirt bikes... thats like saying my Supermoto is way better than all your ricer bikes, when it comes to cornering and handling hell yes, but after 60 mph your guys would eat me alive. Everything has its good and bad points, an gettin tail is good for anyone, dont act like you dont try.

  • Both are awesome bikes. The Ducati is a better looker but all things being equal it's never going to catch the R750.  I'd be perfectly happy with either one.

  • u idiot - V twins capacity isnt directly comparatable to an inline 4. And in 2008 WSB - inline fours are restricted to 1000cc whilst the vtwins are allowed 1200

  • Wait Marvin don't flame the mentally handicap. If you have two cylinders(like a Ducati) you have half the power pulses of a four cylinder bike(like a GSXR750). So consequently you can't possibly make the same power. That is why the 1098(as in 1099cc like the 1098 Ducati) is allowed to race against GSXR1000's which are limited to 999cc. The GP Ducati is a V-4 (as in four cylinders) That's why it has 800cc like the rest of the GP bikes.

  • the 750 is king on the track

  • The 848 wasn't built to race against a 750 anyway. It was for the 600 class. Not only that the 848 looks way better the the GSXR and sounds better.

  • Yeah the 848 was built for posers like that don't care about performance but only want to look good and pay for ridiculos high maintance costs. lol

  • What they hell is your problem? You should stop looking at bikes you no nothing about. You're the poser man. Talking about shit you don't know!

  • it's true!!! high maintenance costs and no reliability, and stupid parts management, and ... and...all for what? because is ducatti??

  • Haven't Ducati doubled the service internal of the 848 and 1098 and slashed the cost of servicing now?

  • Ok. So we'll take our bikes and all the girls and go ride without you. Have fun!

  • might have been a bit better if the 848 driver hadn't kept missing apexes

  • i'd rather have the gixxer and put the $2500 in upgrades to it. and then see which is faster.

  • Then why are you watching a video about a Ducati? Aren't there enough gixxer videos to amuse you?

  • The 750 is near perfect on track. The video shows it, too.

  • This is 2 Rootsey on the 750 r ya usin ur back brake around those corners or the front

  • About bloody time that! Top ratings for welcomes.

  • nice bit of footage! would have to go for the 848 for style, torque, and sound though!

  • nice bit of riding from the gixer rider.

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