Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
Surely in the 21st century, in a first world country, this should not even be an issue. Of course it's a myth. There is no proof of it, nor any reason why it should even be considered, so yes, a myth. There simply is no argument for it!
I find it offensive that people like this waste time and money of the school boards but it is his right just like it is the right of the people who wrote the text book to include FACTS.
"offensive" is not the same as inappropriate. If your theology teaches something completely without factual merit you should expect to be contradicted. It is called reality.
No one has proved there is a god and probably will never disprove. Science will keep plodding on just discovering facts. It has been no conspiracy the desire to understand our world and its origins and our place in it. It contradicts the bible that has no facts or evidence of anything. It is such a shame that the bible and its doctrine keep children from receiving an education.
i dont get these guys, they mock greek mythology and other religions, but nooooo they they get butthurt and demand high tolerance for their own. PRAISE ZUESS guise
@NicholasXyl Well, it's a scientific fact that most of humanity believes in god. Another fact is that for every genius, there are hundreds of idiots. In other words for every person at IQ:150, there are 5 at IQ:90, hence an average of 100. But I'm pretty sure religions were started by start people of THEIR time.
I agree, we should keep creationism in high school. Only people who can afford university should know about evolution. That way we can keep the lower class in there place, feeding on religion.
It's funny because this guy fucks up so much "There are other things in that book that are technically innacurate" <-- he didn't actually read it he admitted that.
"It was the kids that identified it im not smart enough to pick it up" <-- wants to choose what should be taught in schools.
I HATE RELIGION . BUT I THINK THAT THE BOOK SHOULD NOT EVEN BRING RELIGION INTO IT. I DONT WANT CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE BOOKS SO DONT BRING UP RELIGION AT ALL.
@RichardZERO Separation of Church and state is a thing of the past because the christians are trying to force their religion onto everyone else. My school had a prayer over the intercom and I'm fairly sure that's not allowed. I once even got in trouble for not bowing my head.
@RichardZERO Nope. See, the constitution is a subjective thing here. They think a 2000 year old book, that says rapees must marry their rapists, is supreme doctrination above all.
3:18 Video Bombers! Gotta love them! ... I wonder why they belive in a talking snake...and a couple which had to populate the Earth without having in-breeding...
This man is absolutely right. We need to remove references to creationism from the classroom entirely. Such myths and nonsense have no place in a science course.
2.20 sums up almost everything wrong with that specific brand of believer...
Calling creationism a myth (translation: make believe) is somehow an insult?, well boo fucking hoo.
Science has long since debunked the biblical creation story (in other words; it is indeed a myth), these people need to get over themselves and the bias they've been indoctrinated to have.
Short of that they should atleast refrain from trying to fuck education (and the next generation) up the ass.
@ts109 The US is different from most countries in that the establishment clause of the constitution prevents the government from taking a position on any religion. I think that's an admirable amendment.
The entry in the text book clearly violates that. It should be recalled or edited.
@TheMors666 BS. There is so much deceitful anti-science of all stripes infecting this once great country that EVERY science book should actively counter it.
If a history book made a point of telling students that holocaust denial was dishonest historical revisionism, some deluded anti-Semitic wingnuts might object to it being singled out, but if there weren't so many deluded anti-Semitic wingnuts peddling dishonest historical revisionism, it wouldn't be necessary.
@ktowers59 Creationism and holocaust denial aren't comparable in this context, even if both concepts are equally ridiculous.
The U.S. Supreme court has ruled that creationism is not science, it's religion, and can't be taught in schools. But this book is teaching about creationism regardless in a science class; a topic that has nothing to do with actual science.
Anti-science should be countered, but when it involves religion it should be countered by the people, not the government.
@TheMors666 Don't be thick. Yes, it can't be taught in schools - and they aren't teaching it! They are teaching ABOUT it; specifically, they are teaching WHY it isn't science. That's a VERY good thing.
BS pseudoscience and nonsense have too many advantages, the big ones being people's gullibility and that their purveyors can lie freely.
We should do the same for all common pseudosciences - homeopathy, AWG denial, abiotic petroleum, chiropractic "medicine", HIV denial, etc.
@ktowers59 Atheists shouldn't just disagree with the book; they should be actively against it.
There are Christians who think creationism isn't science and oppose it. But they want Christmas celebrated in public schools, or morning prayer in classrooms.
But they'll never understand why those are violations of the constitution if there atheists saying it's OK as long as it's against religion. You're the sort who's only for separation of church and state when it suits your needs.
- The U.S. constitution forbids the government from confirming or denying the veracity of a religion or its claims
- Referring to creationism as a myth (however accurate) means that the U.S. government's official position is that Genesis is just a story with no basis in reality (which it is).
However correct it may be, it is illegal. The holocaust is a hot button topic; it involves a crime against people not an idea. Pick a better example.
@TheMors666 ". . . constitution forbids . . . confirming or denying . . . a religion or its claims"
Not all claims. Faithheads that let their kids die of untreated diabetes while praying to delusions are prosecuted for child neglect/abuse/manslaughter. Isn't this a clear denial of their claim that prayer trumps medicine?
"Referring to creationism as a myth . . . means . . . is just a story with no basis in reality."
Nowhere in the def. of "myth" is "false". Just not science.
@ktowers59 Your argument is not comparable because you're using an example of an adult enforcing their religion on a child who is not of legal age to make the determination for themselves. If an adult refused treatment for their illness in favour of prayer, the government wouldn't rule it suicide.
My definition didn't include the word false, although some dictionaries will use that word in describing a myth.
I agree it's not science. How is that relevant to its legality?
@TheMors666 it wasn't meant to be comparable; it was an example of limits to the free reign that religion is claimed to enjoy where gov't is concerned. You can't do just ANYTHING, say "It's my religion", and demand that the gov't shove off because religion always trumps law. You seem to believe that it is a given that this book is illegal because anything religious is above society's sanctions.
I said myths are not defined as false, but are defined as unscientific.
@ktowers59 If it wasn't meant to comparable, why bring it up then? Obviously there are limits; we aren't arguing the government shrugging their shoulders in defeat when people throw stones at unwed mothers and homosexuals.
I know you said myths aren't defined as false,, but the problem is that they often are.
By your standards the government can speak out on any topic as unscientific. Jesus back from the dead? No biological evidence. No evidence for God? Lets put it on the money.
@ktowers59 Yes, you brought it up to demonstrate that religion doesn't have absolute and total free reign to say and do absolutely anything it wants in a society that specifically separates church and state. Is this an argument someone was disagreeing with?
In discussions involving murder do you need to point out that police officers acting in self-defense don't get the chair even though killing is illegal?
@ktowers59 Once again, you didn't bring up the Holocaust because it was applicable, you brought it up because it is an emotionally charged issue. We both know you can tell the difference between someone claiming the earth is flat and denying the slaughter of 12 million people; stop pretending they're identical.
Your argument for Pi is spot on; that is absolutely comparable. Math books get along with presenting Pi's actual value and don't need to mention, "BTW, it isn't 3, 8 or 17."
@TheMors666 ". . . you brought it up because it is an emotionally charged issue."
Don't tell me why I did something when I already told you the reason, dipsquat.
"Math books get along with presenting Pi's actual value and don't need to mention, "BTW, it isn't 3, 8 or 17."
If 50% of the US adhered to BS math, campaigned for teaching it in schools, demonized all who use real math, made math denial a litmus test for all candidates for national office . . . that would be comparable.
@ktowers59 I know why you claimed you brought it up. Since your response boiled down to calling me a "dipsquat" I presume you've come to your senses and don't equate the social implication of a society denying the attempted extermination of an entire race with that of a society where 50% of its population honestly believes the moon is made of cheese.
Your Pi example is comparable. It wouldn't be the government's place to call their faith a delusion, just to teach it properly.
@TheMors666 I'm a Mormon. Assume this claim is common:
My religion says that the NA's are the lost tribes of Isreal, not East Asians. Therefore, any textbook using genomic studies to debunk the Isreal link should be removed.
I'm a Scientologist. Assume this claim is common:
My religion says the universe is trillions of yrs old. Therefore, any textbook that debunks claims that the universe is significantly older than 13.73B yrs old should be removed.
@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
@TheMors666 ". . . it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating."
Look how that's working out for us. Half of the US believes the earth is 6000 yrs old and Adam rode a Stegasaurus. More people believe that AGW is a global conspiracy of the evil scientists than ever even as we go into meltdown (and denial of it is also a litmus test for public office). Significant numbers think 9/11 was an inside job, buy homeopathic medicine, and on and on. And they vote.
@ktowers59 Sure they do, though they're declining in record numbers. Why is that?
The U.S. is actually starting to enforce the separation of church and state. The government is staying (more than it used to) out of the religion business and its effect is slow but visible.
You're advocating the government taking a step in debunking religion. This is going to turn the situation into a theist vs atheist situation when it should be a dumb ass vs average Joe situation.
@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
@TheMors666 "By your standards the government can speak out on any topic . . ."
Apples and oranges; actually, more like watermelons. These are merely faith-based claims from a "non-overlapping magesteria". They don't deny important historical facts nor do they dismiss a dozen scientific fields as global conspiracies of the "evil scientists". They may be fanciful and unevidenced, but they aren't actively anti-intellectual, anti-knowledge, anti-education H-bombs.
@ktowers59 Once again, the scientific theories you're talking about are more than strong enough to stand on their own. They don't need to discredit competing ideas because there are no competing scientific theories.
But all right, let's have it your way. Why don't you re-write the 1st Amendment so that the government is permitted to publicly state the lack of scientific evidence for a religious claim. Seriously, what is the specific wording you would use?
@TheMors666 "They don't need to discredit competing ideas because there are no competing scientific theories."
We know that, but ask the "creation scientists", AGW deniers, quacks, and cranks of every stripe - they'll all tell you that science is on their side. Read my previous post. We are entering the Age of Stupid. We need active refutation.
If we were making progress or not in danger of destroying ourselves and everything else before pulling our heads out, I'd agree w/ you.
@ktowers59 1. Government allows schools to say, "Sorry, but your flat, 6000 year old earth created via magic by an all-powerful God is untenable. There's just no evidence it happened, and we're going to tell your children that."
2. A gung-ho, let's bring God back into the class room, president WILL win the election.
You will not get those 50% to change their minds by having the government (illegally) tell them their delusions are retarded.
@TheMors666 "Why don't you re-write the 1st Amendment so that the government is permitted to publicly state the lack of scientific evidence for a religious claim."
The 1st says that Congress shall pass no law respecting the estbalishment of religion - No state religion. No favored religion. No religious tests to vote or hold office. Nowhere does it say that the gov't can't counter a staemroller of lies and disinformation just because someone claimed "it's my religion!".
@ktowers59 No law respecting the establishment of religion OR impeding the free exercise of religion.
The government taking the official stance that the story of Genesis is a fairy tale and requiring the state to teach that to children falls under impeding the free exercise of religion.
Would you add, "Except if a belief of a religion conflicts with current scientific understanding, in which case the government may point out the inconsistency to the public."?
Harry Potter is equally as "religious" as scientology - and scientology is recognised as a religion in the good auld US of A.
And may the good lawd shave your hole and grant you the wisdom to know that the difference between a woman in a bath and a nun is that the nun has her soul full of hope.
Praise be to the All Might Be Magic Man.
And may the Blessed Bull shite long, strong and straight.
@tellnet Some countries give Scientology the status of a valid church (the U.S. for example), others the status of a cult (such as Germany).
You don't have to convince me Scientology is bat shit crazy. That being said, is it crazier than believing an all-powerful God literally turns a cracker into His flesh, and that you're supposed to eat Him? We're just used to certain crazy.
If someone makes a valid Harry Potter church then the constitution will have to start honouring that crazy.
Amerca is the most religiously polluted country on this planet - with little or no respect for reality and truth....
"Creation is a myth" = 100% true. Giving such any credibility is NOT honouring one's rights - it is that strange thing that America consistently forgets - "Truth".
There are religions that promote paedophilia - presumably this too should be standard practice ....
@tellnet The U.S. isn't close to being the most "religiously polluted" country in the world.
It's likely that creationism is a myth in the same context that Greek Gods are a myth. That all religions are man-made is, in my opinion, quite obvious. This is irrelevant to the 1st amendment.
A religious practice isn't acceptable if it harms someone against their will; what a silly argument. The U.S. considers freedom sacred. Does this mean they let murderers walk around?
"Myth: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon (Merriam-Webster 2012). Did anyone else happen to notice a part about "myth" meaning "fake"? Neither did I. Now back off, bible-thumpers."
@TheMors666 "However correct it may be, it is illegal."
You assert. This is not a given. I deny it. You are muddling things badly.
"The holocaust is a hot button topic; it involves a crime against people not an idea. Pick a better example."
It's an example of dangerously dumb-ass ideas that are prevalent enough to warrant proactive refutation while teaching whatever subjects the dangerously dumb-ass ideas corrupt. You want more? I already listed several.
@autopsy87 You are right. It is not science. Hence it should not be even mentioned in a science book. Any of you who agree with that passage being in the book are either hypocrites or just plain dumb. Push against ID and creationism being in books then go out and make a statement about one in a textbook. Also I will add that I am an atheist.
This father is of an age where independent thought should've kicked in a long time ago. He's intellectually dead. A husk. A human in name only. Pity his children. Another generation of non-thinkers have been produced.
Myth: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon (Merriam-Webster 2012). Did anyone else happen to notice a part about "myth" meaning "fake"? Neither did I. Now back off, bible-thumpers.
Originally there was a chasm, Ginnungagap, bounded on either side by fire (from the world known as Muspelheim) and ice (from the world known as Niflheim). When fire and ice met, they combined to form a giant, named Ymir, and a cow, named Audhumbla (Auðhumla), who nourished Ymir. She survived by licking the salty ice blocks. From her licking emerged Bur (Búri), the grandfather of the Aesir.
This is how the world was created.. I'm offended to find it labelled "myth" in a so-called text book.
Since when has stating facts been offensive? It like they can't handle reality for fuck sake. Maybe thats what they think heaven is, an escape from reality?
Myth:"a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon"
But...Creationism IS a biblical myth, isn't it? It is derived from a religion based on an ancient text with iffy sources and a plethora of mysticism :/ So I don't get what this fat-ass is talking about, even if he IS religious.
How the hell can anyone have any comprehensive knowledge of biology without learning about evolution? Not possible. Our bodies are a living testament to evolution, our biology sculpted by evolution.
We will never progress as a society as long as idiots like this hold fairy tales higher than knowledge, hate higher than wisdom, and ignorance higher than enlightenment.
He just said hes not that smart so why is he dictating what should be taught in schools? he prob has no clue what chemistry is but he would prob tell the school how to teach that as well.
Kurt take your head out of your ass, you might as well be an Islamist that will stone his wife if she is caught looking at another mans bulge in his pants...lol Religion is for dummies that do not want to see past the man made veil.
I say science books should have like an entire chapter describing exactly what creationism is so that the kids can experience firsthand what a load of shit it is. And if they ready the entire chapter and still acept it.... send them to the retard class.
OMG why are people so stupid!!!! Seek truth in a myth and stories and fiction. That's fine. It's actually how wisdom can be taught but don't make a story be scientific fact. God people are idiots..
LOL, I like that the reader at the bottom says "bias toward christianity." Christians would be arrogant enough to think that they are the only religion with a creation myth. Having said that, it's not necessary for that science text to mention that it is a myth. It doesn't even deserve a mention. It would be like in the section on meteorology mentioning how Zeus is a myth and is not actually responsible for lighting.
I imagine the reason the authors felt comfortable describing it in that way is because even if you believe in divinity, miracles, and salvation, everyone knows full goddamn well that Genesis is a myth.
@alphaenemy Creationism is a biblical myth. I agree, but it just seems unnecessary. Just provide the evidence (in which their is plenty) to prove evolution, and that's all. This is against the Christians if they're so up in arms about it, why are they calling for the removal of the whole book? You're right though, censorship is bad I went out of myself their with that comment.
This is AWESOME! I'd like to thank Kurt (Curt?) for his 'concern' about a book that shows his Creationism BS for what it is... BULLSHIT. This is the classic 'religion is above criticism' argument, so when anyone contradicts religion its automatically 'offensive'.
NEWS FLASH, MEATBALL, THE GLOBAL WAR ON NONSENSE IS JUST STARTING!
Now I'm going to check out the video 'Faith is not evidence!' featuring what appears to be a smokin' hot redhead...
Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
This guy is an idiot.
kmsprouse 1 hour ago
at least he admits hes not smart
dspikey 3 hours ago
stupid hooker...oh no not a biblical myth...no not the truth...
dspikey 3 hours ago
this is sickening. the religious right wants to take our liberty. they have no respect for the constitution
nilbog44 8 hours ago
I didn't know Dolly Parton was a Fox anchor...
CursedZebra 13 hours ago
@CursedZebra haha I was thinking the same thing.
idis1abad 3 hours ago
Creationism has no place in the public school system.
weirdguy75 22 hours ago
Wow that was a balanced interview.
alcraig 1 day ago
Surely in the 21st century, in a first world country, this should not even be an issue. Of course it's a myth. There is no proof of it, nor any reason why it should even be considered, so yes, a myth. There simply is no argument for it!
sids500 1 day ago
and they say theists aren't against scientific development
taylan637 1 day ago
Kurt said the key phrase to his intelligence.(I'm not smart enough).lol.
oemfx1965 1 day ago
I find it offensive that people like this waste time and money of the school boards but it is his right just like it is the right of the people who wrote the text book to include FACTS.
Cheers C
christinepeace 1 day ago
"I'm not smart enough to pick that up"???
infinightsky 1 day ago
"offensive" is not the same as inappropriate. If your theology teaches something completely without factual merit you should expect to be contradicted. It is called reality.
lizardonastick 1 day ago
"I'm not smart enough to pick something like that up..." No shit, man.
GrahamSMcCann 2 days ago
"I'm not smart enough to pick that up..." No shit.
GrahamSMcCann 2 days ago
I like that he uses the phrase 'technically inaccurate' hehehe
tomtom21194 2 days ago 2
f fox they never get the other halve on religious issues never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shayhi123evil123 2 days ago
creationism is bullshit. Its a fact. Get over it religiots. Kids shouldn't be taught about fairytales in schools anyway.
samuriguy909 3 days ago
No one has proved there is a god and probably will never disprove. Science will keep plodding on just discovering facts. It has been no conspiracy the desire to understand our world and its origins and our place in it. It contradicts the bible that has no facts or evidence of anything. It is such a shame that the bible and its doctrine keep children from receiving an education.
currie1967 3 days ago
weren't they fighting to get creationism INTO the science class room a few years back. Be careful what you wish for!...
Davet1187 3 days ago
i dont get these guys, they mock greek mythology and other religions, but nooooo they they get butthurt and demand high tolerance for their own. PRAISE ZUESS guise
34rawfish 4 days ago
Omg...
ThePockyKunoichi 4 days ago
My only complaint against that book is that the author somehow came to the conclusion that creationism is worth mentioning.
NicholasXyl 4 days ago 12
@NicholasXyl Well, it's a scientific fact that most of humanity believes in god. Another fact is that for every genius, there are hundreds of idiots. In other words for every person at IQ:150, there are 5 at IQ:90, hence an average of 100. But I'm pretty sure religions were started by start people of THEIR time.
elkikex 4 days ago
It is a myth. These people are unreal.
sdacrowe 5 days ago
I agree, we should keep creationism in high school. Only people who can afford university should know about evolution. That way we can keep the lower class in there place, feeding on religion.
dragomanrd2 5 days ago
@dragomanrd2 That is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever read.
ChainedHunter 3 days ago
@ChainedHunter The man in the video above don't deserve intelligent responses
dragomanrd2 4 hours ago
It's funny because this guy fucks up so much "There are other things in that book that are technically innacurate" <-- he didn't actually read it he admitted that.
"It was the kids that identified it im not smart enough to pick it up" <-- wants to choose what should be taught in schools.
Niceeee
JimmJimm1234 6 days ago
CREATION IS A MYTH. It's the 21st century and this guy still has his head in his ass.
TasteOfVengeance5 1 week ago
I HATE RELIGION . BUT I THINK THAT THE BOOK SHOULD NOT EVEN BRING RELIGION INTO IT. I DONT WANT CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE BOOKS SO DONT BRING UP RELIGION AT ALL.
2ga14b 1 week ago
3:10 he admits hes too dumb to read a book so what makes u think ur smart enough to talk to people about the bible when u prolly cant read it
MLGTroy1 1 week ago
I'd ban that thing too...BECAUSE IT MENTIONS CREATIONISM AT ALL.
SilentMott 1 week ago
I find the bible offensive - fuck that book off out of schools!
spartonne 1 week ago
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Creationism is a myth. Fuck, I hate how many stupid people live in America.
TBV4050 1 week ago
The biblical creation myth is a creation myth by definition. There is no controversy here, sorry.
brennakj 1 week ago
Do the retards in the USA not realize that they have seperation of church and state?
RichardZERO 1 week ago
@RichardZERO Separation of Church and state is a thing of the past because the christians are trying to force their religion onto everyone else. My school had a prayer over the intercom and I'm fairly sure that's not allowed. I once even got in trouble for not bowing my head.
nufsikcarc 1 week ago
@nufsikcarc It actually is illegal for them to force you to pray. You should speak out against it.
JamesHLanier 6 days ago
@RichardZERO Nope. See, the constitution is a subjective thing here. They think a 2000 year old book, that says rapees must marry their rapists, is supreme doctrination above all.
SiSTeRFiSTER100 1 week ago
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Even the Catholic church accepts evolution, with the addition that it was a process designed and guided by God.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
A text book contained some facts??? NOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!
Whiney ignoramus doesn't like reality. Waaaaaaa!!!
TheCelticChimp 1 week ago 23
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I want to like Christians, but there so fucking stupid.
FutureScience2012 1 week ago
School made his kids more intelligent, and he wants to argue and censor the very thing that made that possible?
-"Really it was the kids that identified it. I mean, I'm not smart enough to pick that stuff up but, they are."
'Nuff said. LOL!
narlydude73 1 week ago
His nose has a peculiar flare to it, like he keeps catching a whiff of the bullshit he's spewing.
luminaeus 1 week ago
It is a myth. end of story
blackattack100 1 week ago
3:18 Video Bombers! Gotta love them! ... I wonder why they belive in a talking snake...and a couple which had to populate the Earth without having in-breeding...
Poodleinacan 1 week ago
I bet he can count to potato
captainlavenderrocks 2 weeks ago
This man is absolutely right. We need to remove references to creationism from the classroom entirely. Such myths and nonsense have no place in a science course.
bchowell6492 2 weeks ago
It is a biblical myth, I don't see what the problem is.
gingermagicman 2 weeks ago
if something cannot be proven then surely it is then a myth because there is nothing to suggest it is a fact!.....fucking inbred's.
LGdinosaurGOD 2 weeks ago
It is a myth, get over it
DiabloConQues0 2 weeks ago 13
all of them are idiots seriously america i though you were a secular country wtf is his bais crap doing on ur tv?
alexanderhulse 2 weeks ago
*Son, I am disappoint...'
The505Guys 2 weeks ago
2.20 sums up almost everything wrong with that specific brand of believer...
Calling creationism a myth (translation: make believe) is somehow an insult?, well boo fucking hoo.
Science has long since debunked the biblical creation story (in other words; it is indeed a myth), these people need to get over themselves and the bias they've been indoctrinated to have.
Short of that they should atleast refrain from trying to fuck education (and the next generation) up the ass.
Seymour13 2 weeks ago
this is why the USA is a failing country, religious ignorance impeding progress
ts109 2 weeks ago 26
@ts109 The US is different from most countries in that the establishment clause of the constitution prevents the government from taking a position on any religion. I think that's an admirable amendment.
The entry in the text book clearly violates that. It should be recalled or edited.
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@ts109 I'm American and support this message.
Turtlenecksweater257 1 week ago
I'd like to know what "technically innacurate" info there is in the book.
CrimsonVoid 2 weeks ago
@CrimsonVoid The book should be taken out of schools (or at the very least, edited to remove the passage).
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@TheMors666 BS. There is so much deceitful anti-science of all stripes infecting this once great country that EVERY science book should actively counter it.
If a history book made a point of telling students that holocaust denial was dishonest historical revisionism, some deluded anti-Semitic wingnuts might object to it being singled out, but if there weren't so many deluded anti-Semitic wingnuts peddling dishonest historical revisionism, it wouldn't be necessary.
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
@ktowers59 Creationism and holocaust denial aren't comparable in this context, even if both concepts are equally ridiculous.
The U.S. Supreme court has ruled that creationism is not science, it's religion, and can't be taught in schools. But this book is teaching about creationism regardless in a science class; a topic that has nothing to do with actual science.
Anti-science should be countered, but when it involves religion it should be countered by the people, not the government.
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@TheMors666 Don't be thick. Yes, it can't be taught in schools - and they aren't teaching it! They are teaching ABOUT it; specifically, they are teaching WHY it isn't science. That's a VERY good thing.
BS pseudoscience and nonsense have too many advantages, the big ones being people's gullibility and that their purveyors can lie freely.
We should do the same for all common pseudosciences - homeopathy, AWG denial, abiotic petroleum, chiropractic "medicine", HIV denial, etc.
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
@ktowers59 Atheists shouldn't just disagree with the book; they should be actively against it.
There are Christians who think creationism isn't science and oppose it. But they want Christmas celebrated in public schools, or morning prayer in classrooms.
But they'll never understand why those are violations of the constitution if there atheists saying it's OK as long as it's against religion. You're the sort who's only for separation of church and state when it suits your needs.
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@TheMors666 "There are Christians who think creationism isn't science . . . they want Christmas . . . or morning prayer . . .
Yep.
"But they'll never understand . . . if there atheists saying it's OK as long as it's against religion."
It's NOT against religion, just PSEUDOSCIENCE! It's science class, not social studies.
"You're . . . only for separation of church and state when it suits your needs."
BS. If holocaust denial was Catholic dogma, history classes should rebut it.
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
@ktowers59 Let's try and spell this out:
- The U.S. constitution forbids the government from confirming or denying the veracity of a religion or its claims
- Referring to creationism as a myth (however accurate) means that the U.S. government's official position is that Genesis is just a story with no basis in reality (which it is).
However correct it may be, it is illegal. The holocaust is a hot button topic; it involves a crime against people not an idea. Pick a better example.
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
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"The U.S. constitution forbids the government from confirming or denying the veracity of a religion or its claims"
No it doesn't. It prevents them from supporting a religious viewpoint, not from imparting factually accurate information.
leftovers0 2 weeks ago
@TheMors666 ". . . constitution forbids . . . confirming or denying . . . a religion or its claims"
Not all claims. Faithheads that let their kids die of untreated diabetes while praying to delusions are prosecuted for child neglect/abuse/manslaughter. Isn't this a clear denial of their claim that prayer trumps medicine?
"Referring to creationism as a myth . . . means . . . is just a story with no basis in reality."
Nowhere in the def. of "myth" is "false". Just not science.
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
@ktowers59 Your argument is not comparable because you're using an example of an adult enforcing their religion on a child who is not of legal age to make the determination for themselves. If an adult refused treatment for their illness in favour of prayer, the government wouldn't rule it suicide.
My definition didn't include the word false, although some dictionaries will use that word in describing a myth.
I agree it's not science. How is that relevant to its legality?
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@TheMors666 it wasn't meant to be comparable; it was an example of limits to the free reign that religion is claimed to enjoy where gov't is concerned. You can't do just ANYTHING, say "It's my religion", and demand that the gov't shove off because religion always trumps law. You seem to believe that it is a given that this book is illegal because anything religious is above society's sanctions.
I said myths are not defined as false, but are defined as unscientific.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 If it wasn't meant to comparable, why bring it up then? Obviously there are limits; we aren't arguing the government shrugging their shoulders in defeat when people throw stones at unwed mothers and homosexuals.
I know you said myths aren't defined as false,, but the problem is that they often are.
By your standards the government can speak out on any topic as unscientific. Jesus back from the dead? No biological evidence. No evidence for God? Lets put it on the money.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 ". . . why bring it up then?"
I already told you; pay attention. I can make it exactly comparable though:
My religion says that the holocaust never happened. Therefore, any history book that addresses holocaust denial must be removed.
Or if the holocaust is too weighty of an issue for you:
My religion says that Pi = 3. Therefore, any math book that addresses irrational number denial must be removed.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 Yes, you brought it up to demonstrate that religion doesn't have absolute and total free reign to say and do absolutely anything it wants in a society that specifically separates church and state. Is this an argument someone was disagreeing with?
In discussions involving murder do you need to point out that police officers acting in self-defense don't get the chair even though killing is illegal?
TheMors666 1 week ago
@ktowers59 Once again, you didn't bring up the Holocaust because it was applicable, you brought it up because it is an emotionally charged issue. We both know you can tell the difference between someone claiming the earth is flat and denying the slaughter of 12 million people; stop pretending they're identical.
Your argument for Pi is spot on; that is absolutely comparable. Math books get along with presenting Pi's actual value and don't need to mention, "BTW, it isn't 3, 8 or 17."
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 ". . . you brought it up because it is an emotionally charged issue."
Don't tell me why I did something when I already told you the reason, dipsquat.
"Math books get along with presenting Pi's actual value and don't need to mention, "BTW, it isn't 3, 8 or 17."
If 50% of the US adhered to BS math, campaigned for teaching it in schools, demonized all who use real math, made math denial a litmus test for all candidates for national office . . . that would be comparable.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 I know why you claimed you brought it up. Since your response boiled down to calling me a "dipsquat" I presume you've come to your senses and don't equate the social implication of a society denying the attempted extermination of an entire race with that of a society where 50% of its population honestly believes the moon is made of cheese.
Your Pi example is comparable. It wouldn't be the government's place to call their faith a delusion, just to teach it properly.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 I'm a Mormon. Assume this claim is common:
My religion says that the NA's are the lost tribes of Isreal, not East Asians. Therefore, any textbook using genomic studies to debunk the Isreal link should be removed.
I'm a Scientologist. Assume this claim is common:
My religion says the universe is trillions of yrs old. Therefore, any textbook that debunks claims that the universe is significantly older than 13.73B yrs old should be removed.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 ". . . it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating."
Look how that's working out for us. Half of the US believes the earth is 6000 yrs old and Adam rode a Stegasaurus. More people believe that AGW is a global conspiracy of the evil scientists than ever even as we go into meltdown (and denial of it is also a litmus test for public office). Significant numbers think 9/11 was an inside job, buy homeopathic medicine, and on and on. And they vote.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 Sure they do, though they're declining in record numbers. Why is that?
The U.S. is actually starting to enforce the separation of church and state. The government is staying (more than it used to) out of the religion business and its effect is slow but visible.
You're advocating the government taking a step in debunking religion. This is going to turn the situation into a theist vs atheist situation when it should be a dumb ass vs average Joe situation.
TheMors666 1 week ago
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@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
TheMors666 1 week ago
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@ktowers59 I'm not certain if you're an atheist, but as one myself the most common argument for the existence of God is, "So if you don't believe in God, then how do you explain the universe? Or life?"
I don't need to; it's an argument from ignorance. Not having the answer to a question does not suddenly improve the quality of an idea. A government-issued science book doesn't need to debunk those ideas; it only has to present the evidence for the theory it is stating.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 "By your standards the government can speak out on any topic . . ."
Apples and oranges; actually, more like watermelons. These are merely faith-based claims from a "non-overlapping magesteria". They don't deny important historical facts nor do they dismiss a dozen scientific fields as global conspiracies of the "evil scientists". They may be fanciful and unevidenced, but they aren't actively anti-intellectual, anti-knowledge, anti-education H-bombs.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 Once again, the scientific theories you're talking about are more than strong enough to stand on their own. They don't need to discredit competing ideas because there are no competing scientific theories.
But all right, let's have it your way. Why don't you re-write the 1st Amendment so that the government is permitted to publicly state the lack of scientific evidence for a religious claim. Seriously, what is the specific wording you would use?
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 "They don't need to discredit competing ideas because there are no competing scientific theories."
We know that, but ask the "creation scientists", AGW deniers, quacks, and cranks of every stripe - they'll all tell you that science is on their side. Read my previous post. We are entering the Age of Stupid. We need active refutation.
If we were making progress or not in danger of destroying ourselves and everything else before pulling our heads out, I'd agree w/ you.
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 1. Government allows schools to say, "Sorry, but your flat, 6000 year old earth created via magic by an all-powerful God is untenable. There's just no evidence it happened, and we're going to tell your children that."
2. A gung-ho, let's bring God back into the class room, president WILL win the election.
You will not get those 50% to change their minds by having the government (illegally) tell them their delusions are retarded.
That being said, everyone else should.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666 "Why don't you re-write the 1st Amendment so that the government is permitted to publicly state the lack of scientific evidence for a religious claim."
The 1st says that Congress shall pass no law respecting the estbalishment of religion - No state religion. No favored religion. No religious tests to vote or hold office. Nowhere does it say that the gov't can't counter a staemroller of lies and disinformation just because someone claimed "it's my religion!".
ktowers59 1 week ago
@ktowers59 No law respecting the establishment of religion OR impeding the free exercise of religion.
The government taking the official stance that the story of Genesis is a fairy tale and requiring the state to teach that to children falls under impeding the free exercise of religion.
Would you add, "Except if a belief of a religion conflicts with current scientific understanding, in which case the government may point out the inconsistency to the public."?
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666
And, according to your criteria, one should not teach that Harry Potter is a fairy tale too.
No wonder, America is a nation of half-wits - they are educated to be ignorant.
tellnet 1 week ago
@tellnet Actually, Harry Potter is a series of fairy tales intended for children.
The bible is a series of fairy tales intended for adults.
The big difference, regarding the constitution, is that only one of those books of fairy tales is a religious text
My criteria, in no way, would protect Harry Potter under the constitution and you won't find a quote of mine even implying it.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666
Harry Potter is equally as "religious" as scientology - and scientology is recognised as a religion in the good auld US of A.
And may the good lawd shave your hole and grant you the wisdom to know that the difference between a woman in a bath and a nun is that the nun has her soul full of hope.
Praise be to the All Might Be Magic Man.
And may the Blessed Bull shite long, strong and straight.
tellnet 1 week ago
@tellnet Once again you seem to be confused. Let me help:
Scientology is a recognized religion.
Harry Potterism is not a recognized religion
Hope that clears things up.
TheMors666 1 week ago
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So nice of you to be so considerate...
There is NO sane country (on this planet) that gives scientology "religion" status.
It does surprise me that you are Canadian .
Obviously you are deranged.
Permit me to assist ..
Scientology presumes a Xenu flute that arrived from a galaxy far far away - TRILLIONS of years ago (before existence)
And...
This is an acceptable "religion" (obviously not designed to EVADE tax) ?
Hmm Tomorrow I will register Harryianismologicalianistics
tellnet 1 week ago
@tellnet Some countries give Scientology the status of a valid church (the U.S. for example), others the status of a cult (such as Germany).
You don't have to convince me Scientology is bat shit crazy. That being said, is it crazier than believing an all-powerful God literally turns a cracker into His flesh, and that you're supposed to eat Him? We're just used to certain crazy.
If someone makes a valid Harry Potter church then the constitution will have to start honouring that crazy.
TheMors666 1 week ago
@TheMors666
There you are then.
Now you get it.
Amerca is the most religiously polluted country on this planet - with little or no respect for reality and truth....
"Creation is a myth" = 100% true. Giving such any credibility is NOT honouring one's rights - it is that strange thing that America consistently forgets - "Truth".
There are religions that promote paedophilia - presumably this too should be standard practice ....
tellnet 6 days ago
@tellnet The U.S. isn't close to being the most "religiously polluted" country in the world.
It's likely that creationism is a myth in the same context that Greek Gods are a myth. That all religions are man-made is, in my opinion, quite obvious. This is irrelevant to the 1st amendment.
A religious practice isn't acceptable if it harms someone against their will; what a silly argument. The U.S. considers freedom sacred. Does this mean they let murderers walk around?
TheMors666 6 days ago
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"That all religions are man-made is, in my opinion, quite obvious"
Hmmm... not so obvious to circa 95% of Americans - who live in the world's most religiously polluted nation.
And, ALL religious practices harm people against their will - either physically or mentally, or both.
tellnet 5 days ago
@TheMors666 Harry Potterism is not a recognized religion.... YET!
wondergundy 5 days ago
@wondergundy Don't worry my friend... in time it will be; then all these doubting Mudbloods will know the truth.
TheMors666 5 days ago
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@TheMors666 Posted by Texijapi1010 5 days ago:
"Myth: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon (Merriam-Webster 2012). Did anyone else happen to notice a part about "myth" meaning "fake"? Neither did I. Now back off, bible-thumpers."
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
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@TheMors666 "However correct it may be, it is illegal."
You assert. This is not a given. I deny it. You are muddling things badly.
"The holocaust is a hot button topic; it involves a crime against people not an idea. Pick a better example."
It's an example of dangerously dumb-ass ideas that are prevalent enough to warrant proactive refutation while teaching whatever subjects the dangerously dumb-ass ideas corrupt. You want more? I already listed several.
ktowers59 2 weeks ago
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@TheMors666 Some a-hole flagged leftovers0's comment as spam, so let me repeat it:
""The U.S. constitution forbids the government from confirming or denying the veracity of a religion or its claims""
"No it doesn't. It prevents them from supporting a religious viewpoint, not from imparting factually accurate information."
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ktowers59 2 weeks ago
God damn is she creepy.
CrimsonVoid 2 weeks ago
Lmao. Their objection is that creationism is being called a myth? If its not a myth, please define it for me. Its definitely not science.
autopsy87 2 weeks ago
@autopsy87 Then what's it doing in a high school science book?
TheMors666 2 weeks ago
@autopsy87 You are right. It is not science. Hence it should not be even mentioned in a science book. Any of you who agree with that passage being in the book are either hypocrites or just plain dumb. Push against ID and creationism being in books then go out and make a statement about one in a textbook. Also I will add that I am an atheist.
matt4787 2 weeks ago
This father is of an age where independent thought should've kicked in a long time ago. He's intellectually dead. A husk. A human in name only. Pity his children. Another generation of non-thinkers have been produced.
timchilli 2 weeks ago
how dare they teach my kids true facts about the world bring back stoning
Darwinstrue 2 weeks ago
Science, I am disappoint.
mikek44224 2 weeks ago
wow this is painful to watch,,,were in fucking 2012 now people wtf is wrong with you?
BoredLikeHelI 2 weeks ago
there's a textbook that says creationism is biblical myth.
i want this book
Lushken 2 weeks ago
@Lushken Me too
fuzzyhead562 2 weeks ago
fucking butt-hurt christains.
If it said "Biblical Fact" you would be bicthin' about it would you?
MrGaddafikiller 2 weeks ago
Myth: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon (Merriam-Webster 2012). Did anyone else happen to notice a part about "myth" meaning "fake"? Neither did I. Now back off, bible-thumpers.
Texijapi1010 2 weeks ago
If facts are offensive to you, I feel sorry for you ;( It IS a myth.
khetti2006 2 weeks ago 3
Originally there was a chasm, Ginnungagap, bounded on either side by fire (from the world known as Muspelheim) and ice (from the world known as Niflheim). When fire and ice met, they combined to form a giant, named Ymir, and a cow, named Audhumbla (Auðhumla), who nourished Ymir. She survived by licking the salty ice blocks. From her licking emerged Bur (Búri), the grandfather of the Aesir.
This is how the world was created.. I'm offended to find it labelled "myth" in a so-called text book.
lozman67 2 weeks ago
Captain no-neck with zero education clearly knows what's best for educational use in the classrooms. derp.
frontsquats 2 weeks ago
prove to the board creationism is not a myth
faith is powerful, but it's not science
wagzel 2 weeks ago
this is why teens stop talking to there parents because the get pissed off way to much.
kap1618 3 weeks ago
Since when has stating facts been offensive? It like they can't handle reality for fuck sake. Maybe thats what they think heaven is, an escape from reality?
95699451 3 weeks ago
Myth:"a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon"
kennytheangel1997 3 weeks ago
But it is a myth. What is the problem.
LJohns1216 3 weeks ago
Creationism IS a biblical myth. The is no evidence that supports anything creationists claim.
mischiefpwns 3 weeks ago
But...Creationism IS a biblical myth, isn't it? It is derived from a religion based on an ancient text with iffy sources and a plethora of mysticism :/ So I don't get what this fat-ass is talking about, even if he IS religious.
gorboy 3 weeks ago 2
Isn´t creationism by definition a belief system based on a creation myth??
ptango666 3 weeks ago 12
what a fat, ignorant nob-crease..
jezza10181 3 weeks ago
The blonde presenter looks like Miss. Piggy. Just saying.
ThatBritishGenius 3 weeks ago
Lol technicly inaccurate...
He has no understanding of that term.
Manguneshane 3 weeks ago
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fletchernibiru 3 weeks ago
You can ban as much as you can, the evidence is there :)
INMATE2468 3 weeks ago
How the hell can anyone have any comprehensive knowledge of biology without learning about evolution? Not possible. Our bodies are a living testament to evolution, our biology sculpted by evolution.
TheDawnybeck 3 weeks ago
Why ban? Burn dem books!!! Seriously, what a bunch of ignoramuses.
stvnnmnn 3 weeks ago
We will never progress as a society as long as idiots like this hold fairy tales higher than knowledge, hate higher than wisdom, and ignorance higher than enlightenment.
badkarma52 3 weeks ago
If facts offend you, then you are a moron.
apatheist89 3 weeks ago 14
He felt it was inappropriate to teach the truth... in a text book. Nuff said.
whanethewhip 3 weeks ago 4
How dare a science book disagree with something that's not scientific haha
state135 3 weeks ago 4
so the book is being banned for telling the truth.
carlstss 3 weeks ago 5
He just said hes not that smart so why is he dictating what should be taught in schools? he prob has no clue what chemistry is but he would prob tell the school how to teach that as well.
Sevenfold120 3 weeks ago
Its almost as if these hosts want to believe in this story but at the same time not call themselves strict creationists.
Sevenfold120 3 weeks ago
But it is a fucking myth, theists are making themselves look stupider than they already are
kraqore79 3 weeks ago
Kurt take your head out of your ass, you might as well be an Islamist that will stone his wife if she is caught looking at another mans bulge in his pants...lol Religion is for dummies that do not want to see past the man made veil.
MightyZarkon 3 weeks ago
"Sounds like hard work, Mr Zimmerman."
Good, old fashioned, discriminating journalism.
leftovers0 3 weeks ago
It is a Biblical Myth. The book is simply defining Creationism and that is what Creationism is.
You can still believe in it if you want, but don't lie about it.
The book is trying to teach students the RIGHT way, which is teaching them everything and then letting them believe what they want to believe.
NOT shoving Christianity down there throats.
Hellongs1 3 weeks ago 2
I say science books should have like an entire chapter describing exactly what creationism is so that the kids can experience firsthand what a load of shit it is. And if they ready the entire chapter and still acept it.... send them to the retard class.
RottingCorpse100 3 weeks ago
I laughed.
HereWeAm 4 weeks ago
goddam textbook, using science to offend men in brush cuts
placidDUNDAS 4 weeks ago 28
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HRRyan2 4 weeks ago
Why haven't the interviewers simply asked him "How is not a myth?"
Zythe 4 weeks ago
OMG why are people so stupid!!!! Seek truth in a myth and stories and fiction. That's fine. It's actually how wisdom can be taught but don't make a story be scientific fact. God people are idiots..
thirdsphere145 1 month ago 2
FOX News interviewing a Sunday School teacher. NOPE, no bias here.
FetaCheese222 1 month ago 5
Creationism IS a biblical myth until it has some evidence to support it. The fact that it hurts the feelings of religious idiots is irrelevant.
jake44514 1 month ago 3
LOL, I like that the reader at the bottom says "bias toward christianity." Christians would be arrogant enough to think that they are the only religion with a creation myth. Having said that, it's not necessary for that science text to mention that it is a myth. It doesn't even deserve a mention. It would be like in the section on meteorology mentioning how Zeus is a myth and is not actually responsible for lighting.
LOL4Polio 1 month ago
sorry typo "I wonder why"
1coffeecup 1 month ago
It is myth...I am wonder why even mentioning creationism in a public school text book would be neccessary.
1coffeecup 1 month ago
I imagine the reason the authors felt comfortable describing it in that way is because even if you believe in divinity, miracles, and salvation, everyone knows full goddamn well that Genesis is a myth.
abborne1 1 month ago
you mean the talking snake story is a myth?
JESUStheATHEIST1 1 month ago
How about just have the line removed?
cardinals3902 1 month ago
@cardinals3902 Ha! How about make it the title of the book instead? Censorship is bad, person. You should know better.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
@alphaenemy Creationism is a biblical myth. I agree, but it just seems unnecessary. Just provide the evidence (in which their is plenty) to prove evolution, and that's all. This is against the Christians if they're so up in arms about it, why are they calling for the removal of the whole book? You're right though, censorship is bad I went out of myself their with that comment.
cardinals3902 1 month ago
This is AWESOME! I'd like to thank Kurt (Curt?) for his 'concern' about a book that shows his Creationism BS for what it is... BULLSHIT. This is the classic 'religion is above criticism' argument, so when anyone contradicts religion its automatically 'offensive'.
NEWS FLASH, MEATBALL, THE GLOBAL WAR ON NONSENSE IS JUST STARTING!
Now I'm going to check out the video 'Faith is not evidence!' featuring what appears to be a smokin' hot redhead...
tjstevens74 1 month ago
A Christian who wants a book banned? Oh, the shock!!!
SubconsciousGatherer 1 month ago 2
Of course Fox News reports on this.
IAmTheisen 1 month ago
"I'm not smart enough to pick one of those, (Textbooks), up." Really says it all.
ScientificExploits 1 month ago 46
@ScientificExploits lol, yep
ilyLaura1 1 month ago
Stupid fat swine.
Validarity007 1 month ago 2