In this context people really should be smart enough to infer the necessary. Although explicitly stating -IMO- does help convey your personal level of conviction on issues that may be contentious. There's also some discontinuity with social etiquette in the English speaking world, certain nationalities have an eroded grasp of plain speech and tend to get the underwear tangled by unnecessarily inferring that you're laying down gospel.
Sometimes, is good to tag "in my opinion" to a statement depending on your audience not necessarily for its literal meaning, but to soften the tone of the message.
The Internet is a great example of this. Because the Internet can't communicate irony or non-verbal, by using "in my opinion" your language comes off sounding more positive-minded and inquisitive rather than assertive. Thankfully, emoticons convey this thinking effectively, so stressing it's an opinion is not necessary.
Are people trying to make you say:"In my humble opinion" I guess they're meaning the fact that you realize other don't have to agree, but indeed its not needed to add.
We just have to learn to cope with narrowminded people.
And I think is pretty balzy you try to explain this, not to people how understand it, but the ones (whom you meant it for) don't understand it, I guess.
Igloos are made of water. Not only are they very unwet, but their secondary function is to prevent wetness of their interior in the event of precipitation. Water is not always wet. If anyone wants to embarrass himself please feel free to argue that ice isn't water.
IMO only softens an argument. If you feel something strong enough to discuss it online then have the nerve to say it as tho you believe it. I can't stand people who are so cautious about their opinions, and I can't stand those that are so insecure they can't tolerate opinions of others. So we disagree about a game rule? Big deal, does that mean I am attacking the very fiber of your being?
Only of you're incredibly insecure. In which case you shouldn't be on the internet.
so are you saying all facts are opinions? but not all opinions are facts? if 1+1=10 (in my opinion). that doesnt mean it does. no about of belief makes something a fact.
or are you just stating that statements people make are opinions wether they are facts or not.
I hate this statement "in your opinion"... Well yes! Of course it's my opinion, if it wasn't my opinion I wouldn't have bloody said it would I?
I get the feeling we would get on quite well if we ever met, I've been watching your videos for an embarrasing number of hours today after accidentally stumbling upon your Katana video. Enjoying them immensely.
Well, it's a difference between the literal meaning of the phrase and the functional meaning. The functional meaning is to imply that you're not trying to start a fight, or something along those lines. It can mean a lot online since people can't tell what tone of voice you're using so, sadly. they tend to presume that you're being ruder than you actually mean to be. Which leads to a ton of pointless flame wars. So... I prefer using the phrase just to avoid that. Consider me weak if you want.
@lindybeige 10 in binary and 2 in a base 2 or higher system represent the same concept. "1+1=10 in binary" is like saying "uno + uno = dos en español", it doesn't disprove "1+1=2" as everyone is well aware of what language/base is being used.
Lmao, It is funny I was just in an argument with a fellow co worker about saying in your opinion. I told her that there is no point in saying it because by just making the comment mean that it is your opinion,and ended up getting in trouble.
Sometimes people say, "That's just your opinion, and your opinion doesn't count," as if that can 'discount' what you've stated. Well, you simply wait for them to finish speaking and reply, "..And THAT'S your opinion, which I'm sure everyone can agree is valid in your mind."
The World War II genre, from historical research to gaming, I have noticed tends to get real heated at the drop of a hat. No other subject that I have had any experience in has people so heavily invested in it.
In English class we were instructed to remove the words "In my opinion" from our writings. It is like Mark Twain's saying about replacing the word "very" with "damn" so that the editor will remove it for you.
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You know, I've always thought that "in my opinion" was shorthand for "I believe that this is true, but I respect your thoughts about the matter, and would humbly like you to please consider mine". I generally prefer to say the longer version (in Swedish, of course), since I only add it when I realize the discussion has gotten very heated. At those times I generally forget that I could be wrong. :-/
I also thought the new intro was quite nice, but perhaps less to the point.
I have wasted too much of my life arguing with fools on the internet. I don't recommend it. There are much more profitable uses of ones' time.
In my opinion (ha, I kill me) there is the Law of Internet Negativity, which states whatever you post, the majority of responses will attempt to negate your remarks regardless. Most responses won't seriously examine what you actually said.
People won't converse or discuss, merely tell you that you are wrong
Yeah, claiming other should state it is quite dumb. However, it's a useful phrase when you want to note that it's just from personal experience; when discussing taste, for example, I could say "petrol tastes bad", since while it IS an opinion, it's one that I can assume anyone I discuss with shares. However, I might say "In my opinion, South African chardonnay tastes better than french chardonnay" - this to note that it's just my personal taste and that it might very well not be shared.
Although I completely agree with the point at hand, there are instances, as you will probably agree, that "In my opinion" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to include in your statement. For example, we are discussing the... Ugh... New bookcase I'm buying. My friend says: It will be better in dark gray, and I reply: In my opinion, black would suit it better. Sure, it's still my opinion, but here it cannot be proven by fact, because it's a personal preference. Hence, opinion. Freaking letter limit.
Can I ask you a offtopic question? You like history very much. If you had a time machine and could travel like some sort of time tourist, what historical evant would you want to witness?
@archis84 I suppose seeing some great ancient empire at its height would be good, and I'd want to avoid battles, so how about a grand coronation or the like in Babylon or Rome?
Agreed. It is more or less a redundancy to specify, unless you are directly regurgitating the opinion of someone else, in which case anyone with half the capacity to communicate an idea, would specify on principle, wouldn't they?
I had an argument once, in which I was trying to convey to someone that he was worried about things that he doesn't need to worry about, which then became, "the things I care about don't matter to you" similar idea, very different attitude.
tattaly agree. "i think", "in my opinion" and so forth is just "civilized" terms to soften YOUR OPINION. It's amazing how people grab on this things. it's like when you go to a store and say "could you help me" at the clerk. it's his job, of cource he is there to help you, that's why he's payed for. you coud simply say "help me out here, PLEASE" and being polite without asking the obvious...
@firedfried Agreed - I hate it when people come up to me at my job and say "do you work here?" even though I am blatantly wearing my uniform and refilling the shelves. It's just silly
Yes, because smoking weed solves everything apparently/sarcasm. I mean, it's a rant, it can be about anything he wants, not what some pillock finds interesting. Just saying.
" There is no such thing as subjective and objective. There is dharma and there is your opinion. To know the truth you need only to let go of your opinion" So taught the Buddha.
Lloyd, one definition of opinion is " anything that we do not deem worthy of the energy of a full fledged argument" ....or for that matter a full fledged rant....in my humble opinion. .
It may be analogous to telling someone "You're stupid" as opposed to "I think you're stupid". Not saying calling out of a rule being broken constitutes an insult, hear me out. The first constitutes an authoritary argument whereas the other might be, I suppose, pedagogic. Annoying as it is, the first one is more likely to start an argument supposing someone in the audience doesn't consider you an authority... if it wasn't insulting too..oh dear, I used a poor example didn't I?
Okay now, no need to wage war against a bunch of pissy forum trolls. The same thing happened to me: everyone accused me of saying outlandish insults and whatnot, including administrators. There's just something about a forum atmosphere that wants to make everyone tear at each other's throats. Anyway, don't waste your time with these guys. I left my forum and haven't joined any for 2 years.
I also enjoy trying to discern facts from opinions when bored. For instance, I am convinced that broccoli tastes bad. Science backs me up on that. People can still like it, but that doesn't change the fact that it actually tastes bad! It's just like how a game or movie can be awful, qualitatively speaking, but you still enjoy it once you learn to like it. Some would argue that entertainment that entertains is automatically good because it serves its purpose... but I choose to disagree with that.
Some words just don't get along with opinions. "Broken" does not sound like an opinion to me. If you claim the rules are BAD, that's an opinion, but if you claim them to be BROKEN, that's something entirely different. I can claim that the sky is beautiful, and that's clearly my opinion. But if I say "in my opinion, it's not cloudy today", then I'm misusing the phrase. That's not something you can have an opinion about! That's just the way things are, regardless of what anyone thinks about it!
As for using the phrase "in my opinion" as a rhetorical move to appear less threatening, more diplomatic, etc. there are much better ways to indicate tentativeness or epistemic caution or humility (where it is actually warranted).
Yes. Thank you. An "opinion" is a stated belief. Beliefs can be more or less justified, more or less reasonable. They can be correct or incorrect. I think the habit of using "opinion" to mean something like "subjective preference" sort of migrated from pop philosophy moral relativism. Whatever you want to say about moral relativism, the pop philosophy around it lends itself to enabling a confused sort of general relativism. We'd be better off just phasing the word "opinion" out of the language.
ah internet arguments :-) i used never believe that "everyones entitled to their own opinion" surely they should have some kind of background in whatever subject first....the guy with the stethoscope is probly entitled to his medical opinion, my five year old nephew...not so much. but then they invented the internet and not only is everyone now practicing their entitlement but....sorry i lost interest in what i was typing. i have another of your vids queued up tho- entertaining, in my opinion.
I have used this phrase - "in my opinion" - before and I will continue to use it for just one purpose. It shows extreme lack of respect towards the recipient of this phrase because it implies that he is to stupid to understand that it can be nothing more than the own opinion.
I watched this whole video with the "1911" switch on. You can come over to my house, watch me flip on the "1911" switch, and watch your entire video, and then tell you about it. That's a fact, my friend.
We have to be willing to accept that certain things CAN be demonstrated as fact, or else we'll never get anywhere. "Just a theory" is as nonsense as "in my opinion" much of the time. That doesn't mean that questioning established facts isn't important.
In the context you might be right about stating it as it was.
I wasn't there and if I felt something didn't work as I expected it (or one would expect it to) I would probably say it was broken as a fact too. In regards to the expectations of myself and my notion of how others expect it to work.
However saying water consists of two hydrogen and one oxygen molecule is not an opinion but a fact. Or that 2+2=4 is also a fact.
@peope1976 You present water as consisting of H2 and O because you believe it to be the case. You have been convinced. The idea that matter is composed of elements is a theory. I agree that it is a good one, but it remains a theory. That you have been convinced by it does not make it a fact. It remains true (and useless) that your water recipe is an opinion. An opinion doesn't have to be yours to be an opinion.
@lindybeige Just to point out that scientific theory is not the same as colloquial theory. Colloquial use of the word theory refers to scientific hypothesis (I think this, I believe this). A Scientific theory is an explanation of facts. Facts can be proven and demonstrated and would be true without the presence of a person to confirm them. Theories are never fact, theories are never true. Facts are true and theories are explanations of facts - the explanation can be wrong but the facts are true.
@lindybeige Everybody sees the blue of the sky slightly different, so it could verry well be an opinion. We just all agread that the collor of the sky, no matter how we see it, is blue.
@headbangingonfolk Actually...that's just your opinion...scientific tests on color blindness indicate that except for certain Celtic males, everyone perceives colors the same. Once trained to tune and balance color a photo technician can get it spot on.
Concert pitch is not a matter of opinion. You get it right or the conductor of the orchestra will replace you with someone who can.
There are not 3 billion variations of the color blue.Mens are not as unique as our egos would have us believe.
@youmaus There are several colour differences I have heard about, the most commonly encountered being that men and women see the boundary between blue and green differently. Humans have three types of colour receptor cell in their retinas. What does a bird see, with five, when it looks at a rainbow? More stripes?
I think using "in my opinion" mainly says that one thinks the matter is one of opinion.
It is often used by relativists and other nut cases(read 'religious people') to disregard rational arguments. Silly example: "Oh, you say the world is round? Well, that's your opinion! Let's agree to disagree.", thereby seemingly winning the argument by appearing open minded.
So, I guess I agree for the most part with what you said, though there is one thing that is even worse: "in my humble opinion"
Good point, though this video ignores the fact that there is a difference with "This is only my opinion" and "This is my opinion, but also demonstratable, repeatable, etc." Whereas saying "This is, in my opinion, wrong" is, at the point of having said it, only an opinion, saying "This is a rock" is, admittedly, an opinion, but also a generally accepted "Fact," ignoring existentialism for sake of argument. My point is that all you say is opinion, but some is more (rectangles=square square!=rectan
There is epidemiological difference between a priori and a posteriori knowledge, and if you don't understand that difference you cannot understand point your moderator was making.
@ZoneofA Perhaps he was the one with the confusion. The statement "the rule is broken" was not presented by me as a priori knowledge. I backed it up with examples, and argued the case. His counter example was "water is wet" which is NOT a priori knowledge.
You are right that “rule is broken” is a posteriori, exactly for the reasons you stated. However “water it wet” is most definitely a priori by definition, i.e it is deduced out of definition of wetness. Categorical syllogism would be “being wet means containing water” and “water contains itself” ergo “water is wet”.
That being said you should not be required to point out your arguments are a posteriori just to appease someone’s nerd rage, moderator was asking too much.
The phrase "in my opinion" is useful when someone asks for an explanation of something, but you don't want them to take your words as the ultimate truth and fact.
@hathiphnath No it is not. No one who gets an answer from anyone should take it as the ultimate truth or fact - unless the answer is given by me of course - because it is always "only" an opinion
Those two sentences feel different. First one is "soft" and means that you don't force anything. Second one is like a statement that no one has right to doubt. That's my opinion ;)
THANK YOU! I dislike when people more or less force the "In Your Opinion" thing down ones throat when it quite clearly was in my opinion! I never state a fact unless I can back it up.
@Phantom1thrd Same here. I tend to argue a lot, not because I like to argue but because I refuse to give ground when I know I am right. I have been refered to more than once as a "rules lawyer".
What is really bad is when you are arguing only to realize you are wrong but not for the reason the other person thinks.
You make a great point (in my opinion), but I think the reason why people want you to say "in my opinion" after you state something is because it seems less...threatening? You would seem less forceful with that statement and express that you dont mean to cause argument. Its like saying "no offense" after saying something obviously offensive to express that no harm is meant. It does seem that way to me when people say those things, but ill admit I can be more sensitive than some.
I have almost no sense of smell, flowers do not smell nice (or at all for that matter) in my opinion, even though the fact that flowers smell like something or that that smell is something pleasing to people is an irrefutable fact.
@lindybeige You have a frankness about you that I find very enjoyable (otherwise, why would I be subscribed to your videos), but it has been my experience that a lot of people (especially on the internet) are easily offended by anyone who disagrees with them on anything unless that person is being very humble about it.
So it could be that the moderator was suggesting you use "in my opinion" as a social nicety, then forgot what his original intent was when he had to defend his suggestion.
@lindybeige I have long had trouble understanding why people are so upset when shown to be wrong. I suppose it has something to do with the subtle implication that I was/am an idiot for having been wrong (though that can be mitigated by sufficient humility).
Still, it's deliciously ironic that we are able to take offense at *recieving the benefit* of having our errors corrected - in the words of late R. Feynman "reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
wait, nvm.
ww2 tabletop.
shoopoop21 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Would this happen to be a rule in the new Necron Codex?
shoopoop21 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
In my opinion I'm going to subscribe to this channel.
MrJohnDevour 2 months ago
In this context people really should be smart enough to infer the necessary. Although explicitly stating -IMO- does help convey your personal level of conviction on issues that may be contentious. There's also some discontinuity with social etiquette in the English speaking world, certain nationalities have an eroded grasp of plain speech and tend to get the underwear tangled by unnecessarily inferring that you're laying down gospel.
KnockoffNigeI 2 months ago
You like quantum mechanics, eh?
Ungulates 2 months ago
Sometimes, is good to tag "in my opinion" to a statement depending on your audience not necessarily for its literal meaning, but to soften the tone of the message.
The Internet is a great example of this. Because the Internet can't communicate irony or non-verbal, by using "in my opinion" your language comes off sounding more positive-minded and inquisitive rather than assertive. Thankfully, emoticons convey this thinking effectively, so stressing it's an opinion is not necessary.
RelVleDy 2 months ago 2
I've always assumed people knew that anything I said was my opinion. Stupid me...
Sivart343 4 months ago
Yeah but that's just your opinion.
zoomraker 5 months ago
Are people trying to make you say:"In my humble opinion" I guess they're meaning the fact that you realize other don't have to agree, but indeed its not needed to add.
We just have to learn to cope with narrowminded people.
And I think is pretty balzy you try to explain this, not to people how understand it, but the ones (whom you meant it for) don't understand it, I guess.
Smartzenegger 5 months ago
I must have made this exact same point about ten times on youtube over the last 3 or so years
RedRangerAidan 5 months ago
Igloos are made of water. Not only are they very unwet, but their secondary function is to prevent wetness of their interior in the event of precipitation. Water is not always wet. If anyone wants to embarrass himself please feel free to argue that ice isn't water.
CoryStories 5 months ago
Yes! Yes! Yes!
IMO only softens an argument. If you feel something strong enough to discuss it online then have the nerve to say it as tho you believe it. I can't stand people who are so cautious about their opinions, and I can't stand those that are so insecure they can't tolerate opinions of others. So we disagree about a game rule? Big deal, does that mean I am attacking the very fiber of your being?
Only of you're incredibly insecure. In which case you shouldn't be on the internet.
Pariah1974 5 months ago
so are you saying all facts are opinions? but not all opinions are facts? if 1+1=10 (in my opinion). that doesnt mean it does. no about of belief makes something a fact.
or are you just stating that statements people make are opinions wether they are facts or not.
claynate 6 months ago
@claynate A fact can exist independently of a mind, but anything in a mind is that mind's opinion.
lindybeige 6 months ago 4
@lindybeige ok, i think i know what you are saying.
claynate 6 months ago
so, what was the rule that launched all this?
kroatiFtl 6 months ago
I hate this statement "in your opinion"... Well yes! Of course it's my opinion, if it wasn't my opinion I wouldn't have bloody said it would I?
I get the feeling we would get on quite well if we ever met, I've been watching your videos for an embarrasing number of hours today after accidentally stumbling upon your Katana video. Enjoying them immensely.
TornadoCreator 6 months ago in playlist Rants
Well, it's a difference between the literal meaning of the phrase and the functional meaning. The functional meaning is to imply that you're not trying to start a fight, or something along those lines. It can mean a lot online since people can't tell what tone of voice you're using so, sadly. they tend to presume that you're being ruder than you actually mean to be. Which leads to a ton of pointless flame wars. So... I prefer using the phrase just to avoid that. Consider me weak if you want.
Tuuliska 7 months ago
In my opinion, your opinion is very opinionated XD
EarlOfEs 7 months ago
What if something is a mathematical fact? Surely 1+1=2 isn't an opinion.
MiRyRE 8 months ago
@MiRyRE They have brain-washed you well if you believe that. So, now your opinion is that 1+1=2? 1+1=10 in binary.
lindybeige 8 months ago 5
@lindybeige Hmmm, nope.
MiRyRE 8 months ago
@lindybeige 10 in binary and 2 in a base 2 or higher system represent the same concept. "1+1=10 in binary" is like saying "uno + uno = dos en español", it doesn't disprove "1+1=2" as everyone is well aware of what language/base is being used.
TheKaygent 2 months ago
Lmao, It is funny I was just in an argument with a fellow co worker about saying in your opinion. I told her that there is no point in saying it because by just making the comment mean that it is your opinion,and ended up getting in trouble.
Cogitatio023 8 months ago
Sometimes people say, "That's just your opinion, and your opinion doesn't count," as if that can 'discount' what you've stated. Well, you simply wait for them to finish speaking and reply, "..And THAT'S your opinion, which I'm sure everyone can agree is valid in your mind."
dtstone24 9 months ago
@dtstone24 lol great comeback
raysetiger285 6 months ago
Haha good one. I just add "in my opinion" or "imho" for prevention but I realize it's or at least should be obviously redundant.
kid29a 9 months ago
This wouldn't have to do with Advanced Squad Leader........??
On this side of the Pond, such debates invariably lead to screeching, then blows.
rattinox 9 months ago
The World War II genre, from historical research to gaming, I have noticed tends to get real heated at the drop of a hat. No other subject that I have had any experience in has people so heavily invested in it.
revolrz22 9 months ago
in my opinion your opinion is as great as ever...;)
take care my friend ans keep the videos coming
cheers mate
VonDrott 10 months ago
what was the game you where debating on?
PresidentDRCI 10 months ago
oh oh.. and "personally I believe"...
cooltube2000 10 months ago
So I guess "in my humble opinion" is out of the question?
cooltube2000 10 months ago
In English class we were instructed to remove the words "In my opinion" from our writings. It is like Mark Twain's saying about replacing the word "very" with "damn" so that the editor will remove it for you.
chunter203908 10 months ago
In my opinion, this video was damn funny. Cheers to another reasonable person doing his best to navigate a world of PC nonsense.
RealCrusadeHistory 10 months ago
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NorthStarAritharo 10 months ago
You know, I've always thought that "in my opinion" was shorthand for "I believe that this is true, but I respect your thoughts about the matter, and would humbly like you to please consider mine". I generally prefer to say the longer version (in Swedish, of course), since I only add it when I realize the discussion has gotten very heated. At those times I generally forget that I could be wrong. :-/
I also thought the new intro was quite nice, but perhaps less to the point.
Zeedox 10 months ago
ALL HAIL LLOYD, OVERLORD OF THE UNIVERSE!!
I have wasted too much of my life arguing with fools on the internet. I don't recommend it. There are much more profitable uses of ones' time.
In my opinion (ha, I kill me) there is the Law of Internet Negativity, which states whatever you post, the majority of responses will attempt to negate your remarks regardless. Most responses won't seriously examine what you actually said.
People won't converse or discuss, merely tell you that you are wrong
Polymarkos 10 months ago
Yeah, claiming other should state it is quite dumb. However, it's a useful phrase when you want to note that it's just from personal experience; when discussing taste, for example, I could say "petrol tastes bad", since while it IS an opinion, it's one that I can assume anyone I discuss with shares. However, I might say "In my opinion, South African chardonnay tastes better than french chardonnay" - this to note that it's just my personal taste and that it might very well not be shared.
lordbaver 10 months ago 2
Although I completely agree with the point at hand, there are instances, as you will probably agree, that "In my opinion" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to include in your statement. For example, we are discussing the... Ugh... New bookcase I'm buying. My friend says: It will be better in dark gray, and I reply: In my opinion, black would suit it better. Sure, it's still my opinion, but here it cannot be proven by fact, because it's a personal preference. Hence, opinion. Freaking letter limit.
SkoinksX 10 months ago
Can I ask you a offtopic question? You like history very much. If you had a time machine and could travel like some sort of time tourist, what historical evant would you want to witness?
archis84 10 months ago
@archis84 I suppose seeing some great ancient empire at its height would be good, and I'd want to avoid battles, so how about a grand coronation or the like in Babylon or Rome?
lindybeige 10 months ago
I liked your former "Lloyd Rants" introduction better.The new one is okay, but kind of annoying.
RndmNumGenerator 11 months ago
Agreed. It is more or less a redundancy to specify, unless you are directly regurgitating the opinion of someone else, in which case anyone with half the capacity to communicate an idea, would specify on principle, wouldn't they?
I had an argument once, in which I was trying to convey to someone that he was worried about things that he doesn't need to worry about, which then became, "the things I care about don't matter to you" similar idea, very different attitude.
TheVoraciousSnapmare 11 months ago
what was the rule that was broken ?
hippierdude 11 months ago
@hippierdude "Recon by fire". It's a long story, and not pertinent to my central point.
lindybeige 11 months ago
tattaly agree. "i think", "in my opinion" and so forth is just "civilized" terms to soften YOUR OPINION. It's amazing how people grab on this things. it's like when you go to a store and say "could you help me" at the clerk. it's his job, of cource he is there to help you, that's why he's payed for. you coud simply say "help me out here, PLEASE" and being polite without asking the obvious...
firedfried 11 months ago 2
@firedfried Agreed - I hate it when people come up to me at my job and say "do you work here?" even though I am blatantly wearing my uniform and refilling the shelves. It's just silly
JtheCrowe 10 months ago
this is much like when people overuse the expression: "honestly... "
MrTrykster 11 months ago
what ruole was it????
FULLTHROTTLE87 11 months ago
I watch your videos with great joy, in my opinion.
uberfrogyz 11 months ago
Lloyd, why don't you smoke some weed and stop ranting about this stuff? I mean, there are more interesting things to rant about. Just saying.
Slypaperclips 11 months ago
@Slypaperclips Tried it once, but the nettles stung my lips.
lindybeige 11 months ago 8
@Slypaperclips
Yes, because smoking weed solves everything apparently/sarcasm. I mean, it's a rant, it can be about anything he wants, not what some pillock finds interesting. Just saying.
ValentineTheory 10 months ago
I love your videos. Keep them coming.
AnthonyReigns 11 months ago
I love your opinions man, they're the best.
NShimaru 11 months ago
" There is no such thing as subjective and objective. There is dharma and there is your opinion. To know the truth you need only to let go of your opinion" So taught the Buddha.
Lloyd, one definition of opinion is " anything that we do not deem worthy of the energy of a full fledged argument" ....or for that matter a full fledged rant....in my humble opinion. .
youmaus 11 months ago
It may be analogous to telling someone "You're stupid" as opposed to "I think you're stupid". Not saying calling out of a rule being broken constitutes an insult, hear me out. The first constitutes an authoritary argument whereas the other might be, I suppose, pedagogic. Annoying as it is, the first one is more likely to start an argument supposing someone in the audience doesn't consider you an authority... if it wasn't insulting too..oh dear, I used a poor example didn't I?
Xandros999 11 months ago
As the first commenter using the name James to say this, I miss the Dies Irae intro.
JamesTCA 11 months ago
It's called... *drum roll* weak speech!
GoingBerzerkeley 11 months ago
Okay now, no need to wage war against a bunch of pissy forum trolls. The same thing happened to me: everyone accused me of saying outlandish insults and whatnot, including administrators. There's just something about a forum atmosphere that wants to make everyone tear at each other's throats. Anyway, don't waste your time with these guys. I left my forum and haven't joined any for 2 years.
GlitchedLink1 11 months ago
So, did you reach a consensus about the rule?
Gilmaris 11 months ago
@Gilmaris The administrator closed the thread, but later off-list, he was shown that I was right after a playtest.
lindybeige 11 months ago 6
I, for one, welcome our new ranting overlord.
katecolluphid 11 months ago
In my opinion Lloyd, you are absoutley correct in this matter.
ffrrreeeakk 11 months ago
in my opinion lloyd, you are excellent.
ffrrreeeakk 11 months ago
in my opinion, i have opinions that i think are right, although slightly opinionated
Treifla 11 months ago
I also enjoy trying to discern facts from opinions when bored. For instance, I am convinced that broccoli tastes bad. Science backs me up on that. People can still like it, but that doesn't change the fact that it actually tastes bad! It's just like how a game or movie can be awful, qualitatively speaking, but you still enjoy it once you learn to like it. Some would argue that entertainment that entertains is automatically good because it serves its purpose... but I choose to disagree with that.
Roxfox 11 months ago
Some words just don't get along with opinions. "Broken" does not sound like an opinion to me. If you claim the rules are BAD, that's an opinion, but if you claim them to be BROKEN, that's something entirely different. I can claim that the sky is beautiful, and that's clearly my opinion. But if I say "in my opinion, it's not cloudy today", then I'm misusing the phrase. That's not something you can have an opinion about! That's just the way things are, regardless of what anyone thinks about it!
Roxfox 11 months ago
As for using the phrase "in my opinion" as a rhetorical move to appear less threatening, more diplomatic, etc. there are much better ways to indicate tentativeness or epistemic caution or humility (where it is actually warranted).
fakejohnwilkesbooth 11 months ago
Yes. Thank you. An "opinion" is a stated belief. Beliefs can be more or less justified, more or less reasonable. They can be correct or incorrect. I think the habit of using "opinion" to mean something like "subjective preference" sort of migrated from pop philosophy moral relativism. Whatever you want to say about moral relativism, the pop philosophy around it lends itself to enabling a confused sort of general relativism. We'd be better off just phasing the word "opinion" out of the language.
fakejohnwilkesbooth 11 months ago
sounds like people are criticizing you for speaking with conviction, QQ to them.
DrPracticleHat 11 months ago
I quite enjoy your rants. They are quite entertaining to watch, I must say.
MrEylk 11 months ago
ah internet arguments :-) i used never believe that "everyones entitled to their own opinion" surely they should have some kind of background in whatever subject first....the guy with the stethoscope is probly entitled to his medical opinion, my five year old nephew...not so much. but then they invented the internet and not only is everyone now practicing their entitlement but....sorry i lost interest in what i was typing. i have another of your vids queued up tho- entertaining, in my opinion.
sturdybiscuit 11 months ago
I have used this phrase - "in my opinion" - before and I will continue to use it for just one purpose. It shows extreme lack of respect towards the recipient of this phrase because it implies that he is to stupid to understand that it can be nothing more than the own opinion.
IcEye89 11 months ago
I'm surprised they didn't try to make you shoehorn the word 'humble' in there too...as if you should be apologetic for your knowledge.
wesmatron 11 months ago
I watched this whole video with the "1911" switch on. You can come over to my house, watch me flip on the "1911" switch, and watch your entire video, and then tell you about it. That's a fact, my friend.
We have to be willing to accept that certain things CAN be demonstrated as fact, or else we'll never get anywhere. "Just a theory" is as nonsense as "in my opinion" much of the time. That doesn't mean that questioning established facts isn't important.
Squeejee09 11 months ago
in my opinion this comment may or may not get let through the deletion process.
out of interest what was the gaming system in question?
ArmedBrit 11 months ago
@ArmedBrit Crossfire. Flawed but excellent.
lindybeige 11 months ago
This kind of reminds me when people start a phrase with "not to offend anyone but..."
The fact you say that doesn't mean you aren't going to offend them, you either say it and risk offending or you shut up, that prefix is just stupid.
neveSykcuL 11 months ago
Lloyd is the overlord of the entirety of the universe.
TheMissingno 11 months ago
@TheMissingno In his opinion, yes.
(Also in others)
Wirrn 11 months ago
Not every statement is an opinion.
In the context you might be right about stating it as it was.
I wasn't there and if I felt something didn't work as I expected it (or one would expect it to) I would probably say it was broken as a fact too. In regards to the expectations of myself and my notion of how others expect it to work.
However saying water consists of two hydrogen and one oxygen molecule is not an opinion but a fact. Or that 2+2=4 is also a fact.
peope1976 11 months ago
@peope1976 You present water as consisting of H2 and O because you believe it to be the case. You have been convinced. The idea that matter is composed of elements is a theory. I agree that it is a good one, but it remains a theory. That you have been convinced by it does not make it a fact. It remains true (and useless) that your water recipe is an opinion. An opinion doesn't have to be yours to be an opinion.
lindybeige 11 months ago 2
@lindybeige Just to point out that scientific theory is not the same as colloquial theory. Colloquial use of the word theory refers to scientific hypothesis (I think this, I believe this). A Scientific theory is an explanation of facts. Facts can be proven and demonstrated and would be true without the presence of a person to confirm them. Theories are never fact, theories are never true. Facts are true and theories are explanations of facts - the explanation can be wrong but the facts are true.
sirbobulous 11 months ago
@sirbobulous So is the sky blue? Discuss.
lindybeige 11 months ago
@lindybeige nope!, some thing to do with light waves and hydrogen, and the way our eyes perceive this process or so thats what i have herd.
306cas 11 months ago
@lindybeige Everybody sees the blue of the sky slightly different, so it could verry well be an opinion. We just all agread that the collor of the sky, no matter how we see it, is blue.
grtz from Belgium
headbangingonfolk 11 months ago
@headbangingonfolk Actually...that's just your opinion...scientific tests on color blindness indicate that except for certain Celtic males, everyone perceives colors the same. Once trained to tune and balance color a photo technician can get it spot on.
Concert pitch is not a matter of opinion. You get it right or the conductor of the orchestra will replace you with someone who can.
There are not 3 billion variations of the color blue.Mens are not as unique as our egos would have us believe.
youmaus 11 months ago
@youmaus There are several colour differences I have heard about, the most commonly encountered being that men and women see the boundary between blue and green differently. Humans have three types of colour receptor cell in their retinas. What does a bird see, with five, when it looks at a rainbow? More stripes?
lindybeige 11 months ago
@lindybeige Yes, by definition. Except at sunset. And sunrise.
cooltube2000 10 months ago
I think using "in my opinion" mainly says that one thinks the matter is one of opinion.
It is often used by relativists and other nut cases(read 'religious people') to disregard rational arguments. Silly example: "Oh, you say the world is round? Well, that's your opinion! Let's agree to disagree.", thereby seemingly winning the argument by appearing open minded.
So, I guess I agree for the most part with what you said, though there is one thing that is even worse: "in my humble opinion"
amulware 11 months ago
Good point, though this video ignores the fact that there is a difference with "This is only my opinion" and "This is my opinion, but also demonstratable, repeatable, etc." Whereas saying "This is, in my opinion, wrong" is, at the point of having said it, only an opinion, saying "This is a rock" is, admittedly, an opinion, but also a generally accepted "Fact," ignoring existentialism for sake of argument. My point is that all you say is opinion, but some is more (rectangles=square square!=rectan
NathanielOfLight 11 months ago
Opinion is such a strange word anyway.
Skullchaser08 11 months ago
There is epidemiological difference between a priori and a posteriori knowledge, and if you don't understand that difference you cannot understand point your moderator was making.
ZoneofA 11 months ago
@ZoneofA Perhaps he was the one with the confusion. The statement "the rule is broken" was not presented by me as a priori knowledge. I backed it up with examples, and argued the case. His counter example was "water is wet" which is NOT a priori knowledge.
lindybeige 11 months ago 2
@lindybeige
You are right that “rule is broken” is a posteriori, exactly for the reasons you stated. However “water it wet” is most definitely a priori by definition, i.e it is deduced out of definition of wetness. Categorical syllogism would be “being wet means containing water” and “water contains itself” ergo “water is wet”.
That being said you should not be required to point out your arguments are a posteriori just to appease someone’s nerd rage, moderator was asking too much.
ZoneofA 11 months ago
@ZoneofA "Epidemiological"? That word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
Slithytove1000 11 months ago
@ZoneofA ("Epistemological", perhaps?)
Slithytove1000 11 months ago
The phrase "in my opinion" is useful when someone asks for an explanation of something, but you don't want them to take your words as the ultimate truth and fact.
hathiphnath 11 months ago
@hathiphnath No it is not. No one who gets an answer from anyone should take it as the ultimate truth or fact - unless the answer is given by me of course - because it is always "only" an opinion
IcEye89 11 months ago
I think it's just as bad if the opposite happens.
X: The rule is broken! Because of this.
Y: No you are wrong, because you forgot this which explains that so the rule is not broken.
X: You are a (insert w/e here), it was just my oppinion!
gurkfisk89 11 months ago
In my opinion your right.
You're right.
Those two sentences feel different. First one is "soft" and means that you don't force anything. Second one is like a statement that no one has right to doubt. That's my opinion ;)
KuroNekoPL 11 months ago
thats your opinion
adiousir 11 months ago
So, "in your opinion" is a useless statement in your opnion.
Crayshack 11 months ago
THANK YOU! I dislike when people more or less force the "In Your Opinion" thing down ones throat when it quite clearly was in my opinion! I never state a fact unless I can back it up.
Adjuni 11 months ago
One of the rules of the modern world; "everyone's opinion is worth more than fact and don't you dare point out that anyone's opinion is wrong"
leeham991 11 months ago
Now I want to hear about the broken rule, and why its broken. -_- I'm such a nerd.
Phantom1thrd 11 months ago 2
@Phantom1thrd Same here. I tend to argue a lot, not because I like to argue but because I refuse to give ground when I know I am right. I have been refered to more than once as a "rules lawyer".
What is really bad is when you are arguing only to realize you are wrong but not for the reason the other person thinks.
ASnakeintheGrass 11 months ago
@Phantom1thrd Absolutely! Lloyd, tell us of the rule that is broken! ^^
SecondSince 11 months ago
I say either that:
"I think X is Y" or "In my opinion X is Y"
Using both in one sentence is redundant.
walterscientist 11 months ago
These past few loyd rant intro's were hilarious. imo :D
BrutusAlbion 11 months ago
In my opinion, it should be made possible to punch someone through the internet.
EternityInValhalla 11 months ago
You make a great point (in my opinion), but I think the reason why people want you to say "in my opinion" after you state something is because it seems less...threatening? You would seem less forceful with that statement and express that you dont mean to cause argument. Its like saying "no offense" after saying something obviously offensive to express that no harm is meant. It does seem that way to me when people say those things, but ill admit I can be more sensitive than some.
LotusDragon09 11 months ago
Key phrase here being "its Redundant"
KRiderMan1248 11 months ago
I have almost no sense of smell, flowers do not smell nice (or at all for that matter) in my opinion, even though the fact that flowers smell like something or that that smell is something pleasing to people is an irrefutable fact.
Kooletz71 11 months ago
In my opinion, I miss the Dies Irae intro :(
TheMetalPenguin 11 months ago 29
@TheMetalPenguin It was better, yes. Sorry.
lindybeige 11 months ago 15
@lindybeige You have a frankness about you that I find very enjoyable (otherwise, why would I be subscribed to your videos), but it has been my experience that a lot of people (especially on the internet) are easily offended by anyone who disagrees with them on anything unless that person is being very humble about it.
So it could be that the moderator was suggesting you use "in my opinion" as a social nicety, then forgot what his original intent was when he had to defend his suggestion.
MrCattlehunter 11 months ago 2
@MrCattlehunter I may do a video before very long about the business of taking offence.
lindybeige 11 months ago
@lindybeige I have long had trouble understanding why people are so upset when shown to be wrong. I suppose it has something to do with the subtle implication that I was/am an idiot for having been wrong (though that can be mitigated by sufficient humility).
Still, it's deliciously ironic that we are able to take offense at *recieving the benefit* of having our errors corrected - in the words of late R. Feynman "reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
MrCattlehunter 11 months ago
@TheMetalPenguin So do I. It was a bit loud compared to the general volume of the videos though.
maaderllin 11 months ago
I'm surprised you didn't add a counter for how many times you said "opinion"
Royalemperorblue 11 months ago 2
In my opinion, Flames of War is the best WW2 Rule set out there.
miniwars123 11 months ago
In my opinion, I dont have a opinion
xpunk1981 11 months ago
welcome to mini wargame nerd rage
FellBlade9 11 months ago