BRAINWASH?... NAOMI KLEIN on "ARE WE BRAINWASHED?"

[DickOPlenty]

i hate it when people exaggerate things knowing better. the media doesn't brainwash people according to the very definition she gave. sensory deprivation? they do influence people obviously. repetition is key. having "experts" is usually effective even if they don't know shit & are just guessing. sometimes they lie openly. i never believed that before until i saw it for myself.

[harkyo]

@DickOPlenty She was referring to the deprivation of an opposing or varying viewpoint. How hard was that to listen to?

[harkyo]

@DickOPlenty She was referring to the deprivation of an opposing or varying viewpoint. How hard was that to listen to? As to lying openly, just listen to FOX or MSNBC.

[harkyo]

@DickOPlenty She was referring to the deprivation of an opposing or varying viewpoint. How hard was that to listen to? As to lying openly, just listen to FOX or MSNBC. If anyone bases their opinions on that, then yes, that is the closest we've come to brainwashing on a mass media scale. But this happens only when we have a nation of non-critical thinkers, whose population is behind the world in math, reading, and science.

[spitfire71068]

Made since 'til she said that we're "starved of alternative points of view". Complete and utter hogwash. Fox News is but one channel (two if you count their business network), and right-wing talk radio is confined to, well, radio. Conversely, "alternatives" (actually, mainstream) sources abound: CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, NPR, CBS/NBC/ABC News, et al. SOME people think there is a link btw. al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. SOME people think the US found WMDs. I don't think a majority think that.

[5iF3R]

Anyone heard of the MK Ultra program? Or the Phoenix program? Operation Paperclip? Scary stuff..

[sysopkc]

yes but your leaving out the fact that they are a segment of the population that is highly uneducated, low ave. IQ quotent, and are vuneralble to ANY and ALL forms of repetative messaging. Just the same as in every other country including CANADA... So there, is a slice of reality for you Naomi, SO WHAT! WHATS YOUR POINT? You just want to sell books and make money, your a shill.

[Ricardo72]

It's funny because the left was systematically removed from public discourse so that anyone to the left of Barry Goldwater is labeled a Stalinist.

[BaresarkSlayne]

That being said, the media is one of the primary problems in this country. It is a voice of whoever happens to be in power (mostly). Fox news doesn't support anti liberal thoughts, it supports GW Bushes whitehouse and administration. They didn't do us any good at all, I didn't vote for him, I never would. Likewise, I didn't vote for Obama, and I never would.

[BaresarkSlayne]

LoL, now it goes the other way. The so called "left wingers" have the power now. I see this same kind of brainwashing. Only, what she calls brainwashing still isn't that. People align themselves with a political agenda they feel best suits their beliefs. When someone aligns themselves with a MOB like that, then they let the bad things slip away into nothing. She is no different, only she preaches things most honest hard working people don't care to hear.

[highwind8124]

Stephanie Meyer discusses politics? Okay.

[DanUuNoel]

Brainwashing on Iraqi WMDs? Censorship describes better what happened there. "We the gullible people" remembered how our fearless media mercilessly tracked Clinton's penis; how could we imagine that they would ignore the failure to find WMDs?

And WMDs is not the big one. How about 9/11? How could we find that building 7 was demolished if the media would ignore it as they kept hammering the twin towers in our minds day and night?

Love.

[SciMethod]

Fallacy of Definition, logical fallacy. Covert mass brainwashing could still be considered brainwashing. You don't have to use the MKULTRA tactics, which the CIA claims failed.

[SciMethod]

Klein falls for the notion that brainwashing cannot occur without evidence to logically prove she is correct. Can people be hypnotized to do things without their will? The common-sense notion is that they cannot. However, you only have to look for information on a recent Italian hypnotist thief to see evidence to the contrary. Sorry, Klein, you are wrong, and your lack of knowledge of these things prevents you from understanding what is going on.

[carmenlee87]

I pity the girl

[Knoss]

If you look at every Communist regime, none had the majority support of the people and all deviated from Communism to maintain legitimacy while using brutal force to silence opponents.

They weren't brainwashed they were kept in perpetual fear.  They lied and once free they tell the truth. Ms. Klein should listen to those who were able to tell the truth.

[bapyou]

"every socialist experiment of any significance in the 20th century - without

exception - has either been crushed, overthrown, or invaded, or corrupted,

perverted, subverted, or destabilized, or otherwise had life made impossible for

it, by the U.S. Not one socialist government or movement ... was permitted to rise or fall on its own merits; not one was left secure enough to drop its guard against the all-powerful enemy abroad and freely and fully relax control at home." - William Blum

[Knoss]

So evil should be permitted to exist on its own merits? What merits? Death and destruction are not merits.

[bapyou]

"Death and destruction are not merits."

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Therefore, why does the United States engage in such activities?

[crchrdsn]

I think she should move to Afghanistan. She would probably prefer it.

[blite13]

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[parakeethands]

lovely smile...just don't agree with what's behind her smile. (her words that is, not her teeth which are beautiful). :)

[JoDaProduktion]

Yeah, so she should be in a harem somewhere and prevented from expressing any ideas.

[bobbys12]

She really does make a lot of sense. I know a girl who dropped out of a course at school because the instructor was causing her to think un-christian-like thoughts which had absolutely nothing to do with sex. They're trained to keep themselves brainwashed, as well. She will soon receive a degree for her "education."

[CAJUNNSC]

Listen to Naomi, although many will simply not get it. She is correct. But for those of you that disagree well you are more then likely the very people she is talking about. True brainwashing takes time and most are brainwashed from childhood. We aren't born with the ability to hate, we are taught how to hate. And all hate is wrong, regardless of what was done to you. You can not blaim an entire country for something a few men did. Unless you are simply looking for someone to hate to start with.

[Tuathalful]

@CAJUNNSC yeh. It's a fine line, if there is one at all, between brainwashing via religious indoctrination or dogmatic ideology, inculcation via pedagogy, or arguably through processes of socialisation (sociologically). One thing is likely, its in the early years, the developmental years, ppl tend to be first indoctrinated, and after the cake's baked it can change its flavor.

[Slipknotyk06]

@CAJUNNSC - We are easily capable of hate from birth. All it takes is a series of events where we are victimized and abused to create hatred. Hatred is not taught, but an evolutionary response, which is the driving force behind the outward expansion of the human race. The pilgrims were victimized and hated England so they came to America. Brainwashing, though, is a very different thing. There is also a substantial difference between brainwashing and indoctrination.

[watchinavid]

@Slipknotyk06 And that substantial difference is something called perception. One's perception of reality is what creates the differences. Life is a lesson, evolution is learning. If you learn to hate, you learn to evolve in that direction.

Brainwashing/indoctrination are truely one in the same, lest one's ideology interfere.

[Lotus4115]

It starts on the knee of an adult. The child is indoctrinated in some kind of religious myth and so the brainwashing begins. From that standpoint it is easy to deceive using the myth as a primer.

[axiomizer]

so religion brainwashes people - the same idea over and over and over again

but she is an idiot!

[macflyfilm]

The sad thing is nothing she said will be listened to by the people who need to hear it the most.

[mallamoozoo]

AHHHHH - yes ... but.... the key is network multiplication - they dont have to hear it from her directly - if what she said spreads like fire and then that fire burns someone 6 degress removed.... then its the same result.

What I mean is the word spreads - so do ur part and get it out!

DAVIDE ICKE "Beyond the Cuttin Edge"

[damnbeavers84]

I think the word is 'meme' dude.

[Brainman94]

yeah that souds familiar

[gizmo2084]

The source of the person being supported is also important. Think wolf in sheep's clothing.

The moment that Bush wraps himself in the guise of the "Christian" there is more receptivity among his audience that share the same beliefs. And only then can you persuade someone into believing half-truths about other issues.

[BillJoyce155]

Yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!

[kingneddy]

i agree. she is brainwashed.ha ha

[Finiras]

hahaha retarded americans

[fasciatus]

she is brainwashed

[Finiras]

typical response of someone who doesn't want to admit it.

[sEcrEt2lifE]

oh... My teachers brainwash me all the time then.

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[Advocate1234]

God she makes me want to vomit.

[malmodude]

she is so right!

[totolondon]

fox news,cnn ,msnbc the are very bad,suppoting evil regime

[harkyo]

@totolondon yes those media are great examples of brainwashing. Starving the viewer of alternative points of view. Just repeat the same meme. That is the essence of brainwashing. Dictate the terms of the equation; the "discussion" HAS to fit a consistent framework: that of "free markets" being protected only under republican and conservative ideologies in mind, and "freedom-is-not-free" jingoistic sloganeering, intended to get out irish up against the foreign influence. Pathetic. Read real news

[heliodor001]

She make sence and it does happen. Some people do not like to hear this because it goes against their preconceptions of humnity.

[duquid]

or elf waves

[edbingey]

Elf waves are the ones you have to watch out for. Check for Goblin implants to, of course.

[meshuggahfan]

a used car salesman uses a slight form of brainwashing when he tries to sell you a car. Example : Can you see yourself driving this car? (A mild form of brainwashing, he is ultimately getting you to imagine something by just suggesting it -- I.E. Better chance of him selling you a piece of shit car :-D.

[jamesmorgandavies]

Actually, you CAN be brainwashed via hypnosis & drugs, or even hypnosis alone. The idea that you can't make somebody act involuntarily or against their own conscience is false. It just so happens that TV produces a trancelike state, in mere seconds. More coming right up, after these words from our sponsors ...