lady at 0:22 wants anal sex from that guy. i've seen this move before. she wants it bad. but the dude chose to avoid the gunfire rather than getting laid. plus, it's in public and there were kids present. that's why he didn't mount her right there and then.
I was just a young boy then but I tried to save your big mr Kennedy president. at the hospital I decavitated him and pulled out this big fucking black widow spider over 25 feet across and put him in a chicken wire cage(really tricky procedure) everyone loved him so much. I offered him a bandade he was grazed.
I cant understand how ppl can say the Z film was altered, spliced, speeded up, the presidential limo braked or slowed down and so forth when this piece of film clearly shows the shootings took place in abt 7-8 seconds and all vehicles seemed to be moving consistently.
@paraconti all vehicles moving consistently.the motocycle officers catch the presidential limosine whilst stopping.check out a few more videos from other angles and you will see quite clearly the the limo slows to an almost stop
@jhonnies123 What, you can't handle the TRUTH! OK smartarse whats your theory? Was it the CIA FBI KGB JEWS i read them ALL and not one of you conspiracy nuts can agree on anything.
Stop ignoring REAL evidence and stop making up bullshit!
The shots are almost simultaneous. The Zapruder film is a fake. When JFK is thrown back it is not because of the front head shot (he had already been shot before the car accelerated off)). Greer hit the accelerator and caused JFK's literally dead weight to to be flung back.Why weren't Jackie and the others flung back? Two reasons 1/ They were not dead weights.2/ They may have been flung back slightly but the frames showing this were removed from the Zapruder film.
This is the real scenario. JFK is shot two maybe three times from the back and then in the throat from the front. JFK is still upright. He is then shot in the head - in the left temple, in the top of the head just above the hairline. The car slows to a dead stop and JFK is then shot in the right temple. This is shot that people said blew his head off. JFK falls forward and then the car takes off at high speed. The sudden acceleration slams JFK back to the left.
also if Lyndon Johnson wanted JFK out of the picture then why didn't he discredit him with one of the hundreds of covered up scandals? Surely that would be easier than to stage an assasination attempt from a place with a truly awful position for a sniper to fire from?
@rich639 I think that, had Johnson done just that, he would have discredited himself as much as Kennedy. Anyway, who knows that Johnson may have already blackmailed Kennedy but it failed to work.
On June 4, 1963, John F Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110. This gave the U.S. Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. This gave the U.S. government back its power to issue currency, while stripping the Federal Reserve's power to loan money to the government at interest
Who's the retard here? You think men kill politically because they're obsessed with legislation or public policies? Or because they WANT POWER. Think about it. Kennedy was planning on pulling out of Vietnam, obviously LBJ wasn't on board with that one, was he? Just because he was on the same boat with civil rights doesn't make them the best of friends.
Why would LBJ be allowed? Are you kidding me - You are right? LBJ was President - he had the reasons, the motivation, the Wink, the ducking moments prior to the shots, the reversals of policy after the assassination, the revelations by his mistress and secretary, the statements of Ruby (associated with Nixon as well), the now proven meetings between him and others prior to the coup, the tapes of his convos with Hoover of 'whitewash' - YOU ASSUME SOMEONE allowed him! What nonsense is that?
You got it! LBJ was in on the assassination right up to the neck! He hated JFK and used to make fun of him behind his back. Apparently LBJ made fun of JFK's ankles. LBJ used to join his index finger and thumb into a tiny circle saying that JFK's ankles were that size. Bobby found out and was very angry and said:"I knew LBJ hated my brother but I never knew he hated him that much." Jackie caught LBJ chuckling over JFK's body in Trauma Room 1 when she walked in unexpectedly.Yep.LBJ hated JFK.
@seth917 Jackie told it to Gore Vidal her cousin. It is common knowledge and is contained in Jackie's notes on the JFK assassination. These are not available until 2039. There are those assholes who deny that LBJ was even in Trauma Room 1 and claim that he stayed the whole time in Parkland Hospital stuck in his little room guarded by Youngblood. Jackie told Vidal her cousin who was perhaps on of the very few people she could trust with such a revelation. She may have told Bobby as well.
Why would you run towards the shots? If they came from the knoll, why go and hide there? It wouldn't be safe...and namtitti, if you're going to make a case about how the government shouldn't control our lives, maybe you should proofread first. The government should definitely control the education you're receiving.
wraith...you ASSUME to much much like ShutterBun...Asking questions on FAULTY LOGIC...then assuming to answer them...then using odd humor to try to SKIRT OVER the OBVIOUS. Question 1 answer: Because their President was just shot - called PATRIOTISM and COURAGE. - what Good People do, they don't run away. 2nd Question: N/A cause its based on assumption YOU MAKE about their motivations, how do you know why they did that - hiding? Come now! Your last points are not worth commenting on - nonsense.
the logic, as a citizen and not the secret service or police, of running toward shots that have already been fired is faulty. as you can see in the video, and your assessment of the entry and exit wounds, given evidence from "doctors that were there at the time", is foolish. simply looking at the zapruder film, the damage to jfk's face is explainable. an exit wound is larger than an entry wound, especially for a high powered rifle like the one used.
JFK's face? There was no damage to his face. What are you typing of? There are problems with the Zap Film - but overall it clearly shows backward motion etc. indicating a frontal entry pushing President Kennedy back and to the left, at the time he was suffering from either a frontal (doctors seem to indicate this) throat wound or other wounds from the rear (from DalTex and/or TSBD).
Correctly put. The Z film correctly shows a shot from the front. The back of Kennedy's head was blown off and his face was in tact, indicating again that the shot was from his front. The autopsy photos were altered in an attempt to hide this fact.
Continued answer: The patrolman riding behind were splattered with brain tissue and blood - indicating exit wound to rear - as Doctors clearly outlined - the flap seen on Zap. could be pulled to cover rear exit as also indicated. The fatal shot came from the FRONT. If a rear shot had hit our President, then a large exit wound to the front from the TSBD would have clearly created damage to the facial area or left side of the head - especially considering placement of Pres. and Trees etc.
continued argument. how is a throat shot possible in the front? the knoll is on a higher elevation than the car, and a shot to the throat would most likely shatter the jaw bone first. try looking forward. do you hold your head high enough to clearly see all of your throat? now, look at it from the position of someone on higher ground. according to the zapruder film, the throat shot is before the head shot, meaning the shot had to come from behind, or his face would already be gone, as you noted.
Skirting the obvious conclusion with dishonorable humor, disrespecting our President slain - won't change the fact that most of witnesses ran to the Knoll will it?
"Most witnesses ran to the knoll," are you sure about that? Most estimates place the number who ran to the knoll at about 30 or 40 people at most, whereas several HUNDRED gathered around the TSBD. Also the number of witnesses who heard shots from the TSBD outnumber those who heard shots from the knoll by a substantial ratio. There were also 2 credible witnesses who actually SAW the rifle in the TSBD whereas nobody saw any shooting on the knoll (per their statements that day)
Several 'hundred' gathered around the TSBD? Uh, and your point is? Many who have thoroughly investigated this, have shooting from three areas at least - the TSBD, the DALTEX building, and the Knoll. The eyewitnesses right where the limo was at the moment of the fatal headshot tend to AGREE as well - the Knoll is where that came from. There are more than two credible witnesses pointing to the Knoll and to mutiple shots beyond three - and actual footage to perview - and Doctors on back head wound.
Let me clarify the last sentence: Doctors who said in on video hosted by Walter Conkrite (NOVA i believe) who were THERE that day to observe - that the HEAD WOUND was an EXIT WOUND on the back right area and ENTRY WOUND in the front right of head and throat. A outstanding policeman, who apparently committed suicide, also reported the casings in the TSBD were neatly aligned for findind, the weapon was a German not Italian brand - he ran to the Knoll area - as did a patrolman in the parade etc.
I still think you are giving too much weight to recollections of "doctors who were there that day." They've all since reviewed the photographs and X-rays and agreed that all the shots came from the TSBD (even Cyril Wecht at his craziest will only propose that a missed shot or "simultaneous head shot" came from the knoll. The medical evidence simply doesn't support it, despite what the doctors at Parkland think/said they saw.
You write: "they've ALL since reviewed the photographs and X-rays and agreed..." NOT TRUE. So your assertion based on this if FAULTY. Again, you discount credible Doctors, with years of real scientific training in medicine and others who've dealt with body - and confirm absolutely of a back exit wound, with flap that could cover it over, what seem like doctored autopsy photos - a missing brain - etc. Instead you rely on a political document 'Warren' obvious in LBJ tapes now, and Specter theory
My point is: to soundly dispute your contention that "most of witnesses rant to the Knoll" (sic)
Beyond that, you seem to be giving WAY too much weight to eyewitness testimony, much of which doesn't even agree with other eyewitness testimony. People heard as few as 2 and as many as "4 to 6" shots, from either then Knoll or the TSBD. Only 2 claimed (that day) to hear shots from 2 different points. If you're looking for a preponderance of evidence, it's 3 shots from the TSBD, by a wide margin.
First - correct my typos rather than making a crude point about them (ie. sic). Second - Your way off in never-never land assuming all sorts of things that went on inside the minds of conspirators or the lonely nut who claimed until the end his innocence was in the employ (documented since) of the CIA and FBI thus is use of the CIA 'patsy' etc. You discount actual eyewitness testimony from credible sources including a decorated policeman and those nearest the shooting in favor of pseudo-science.
What behooves me ShutterBun2, is I truly want to believe the 'Warren' THEORY - but the fact it simply reiterated Hoover's FBI report - the fact is discounted legitimate evidence - the acoustic evidence and everything else - drive away from that THEORY and political document (listen to the LBJ tapes with Hoover and others) and its magic bullets etc. and toward private investigations of others concerned for our country who seem more credible. I wish only the truth on this - Who? LBJ. See Ruby...
The acoustic evidence was not known to exist at the time of the Warren Commission, though I doubt it would have changed anyone's mind. The HSCA's findings on the acoustic evidence are tragically flawed, in my opinion. If the Warren Commission (and its report) were truly a government-sponsored whitewash, why would some of its own members, as well as LBJ be allowed to publically express doubts about it?
@ShutterBun2 After the shots were fired those nearest the incident ran to the Knoll. You say several 100 'gathered' at the TSBD. When did they 'gather' there and how long does it take 'several 100' people to gather together? Are you saying 'several 100' people appeared at the TSBD after the shots. For a start there was already a significant number of people gathered at the TSBD even BEFORE the shots were fired. There was an even greater number gathered at Love Field. What is your point?!
'Wound of Entry, part 2' at 6:30-6:40 shows the small entry bullet hole into the throat of Kennedy, just as Parkland hospital doctors said it was. This picture is the proof of the frontal shot (certainly not Oswald) BEFORE the doctor did the tracheotomy.
Notice on the same picture the attempt to block out the 2nd entry shot from the front, above the right eye on the hairline. This picture is proof of 2 frontal shots, as the Parkland doctor said it was.
Check out James Files' interview. He is very believable. Of course many of you will see a tin foil hat which is helpful in insulating YOURSELVES from those harmful "conspiracy" waves.
THE PUFFS OF SMOKE ARE COMMIN' FROM YOUR BRAIN![that it had enough energy to type] I'll delete your responce beforeIi read it. So don't bother comming up with any thing clever! Just keep letting our government controll your stupid life.;
The Pepsi bottler's convention which Nixon (very publicly) attended was the night BEFORE the assassination. He was already in the air Firday by the time it all went down. Are you prepared to accuse Joan Crawford of conspiracy, too?
@ShutterBun2 Yes I would. Joan Crawford was a dissolute drunken hag and bum. When she died Betty Davis (not Crawford's greatest friend) was asked if she had anything to say about Crawford's passing .Davis replied:
car didn't stop as a choice by the driver really....but as they were making that awkward turn it slowed considerably and that's when the first shot rang out....after that the driver was still in slow mode as he looked back (some report that the SS guy was afraid someone was at the overpass so he was reluctant to move forward w/o direction). anyway by the time he made a decision the head shot was done....
Was the man who got up from the grass, looking in the direction that the sound of gunshots came from? I think so. He might even have seen one of the killers and didn't even realise it.
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I've looked at this assassination over and over and I'm still convinced Jackie did the head shot. While the limo was slowing down,pulling to the left where there were few witnesses, Jackie pushes down on jfk's left elbow(forcing him to lean towards her)Jackie's right arm goes on the back of the seat,she leaned to him,BANG,and tosses the weapon. Notice how the motorbike cop parks his bike in the exact spot she does the tossing motion. That's when he mentions the knoll to rid the attention.
moultrieadog, you only show your abject ignorance when you make a statment like that. You are obviously a complete moron with shit for brains. Crawl back into you cave and stay there dipshit.
Kennedy was killed by the mafia working with elements of the CIA. Like they were working together during bay of pigs. The mafia is very powerful. Oswald was a patsy, and he was not supposed to get caught. That is why Ruby (who was a part of the jewish mob/teamsters) killed Oswald. Today's mainstream media, which is controlled by the right wing Neocons, is still trying to brainwash the American people Oswald was a commi. Oswald was being 'handled' by the mafia & Cia/ Guy Banister in particular.
That is a great point! I saw a clip of a couple dozen people running toward the knoll just second's after the shot's fired! Sadly, all that just does not seem to matter!
DPD James Chaney(1 of 4 Presidential motorcyclists) stated the limousine stopped momentarily after the first shot. "...at the time, after the shooting, from the time the first shot rang out, the car stopped completely, pulled to the left and stopped. Several officers said it stopped completely." [2 H 44-45 (Lane)---refering to Chaney's statement as reported in the "Houston Chronicle" dated 11/24/63; 3 H 266 (Baker)
If you want the answer on the agents super-human speed in getting to the limo, just think CONSPIRACY.
The Zapruder film was heavily edited to fool the people.
On a search engine type in "jfk assassination film hoax". Go to the bottom of the page and enjoy the Zapruder film clips that show how your government is trying to make a fool out of you.
Yes...agents can move very fast on edited and cut and pasted film.
In the AOL search engine put in: 'gerald ford warren report'. Several webpages to read.
The first site is good. "Gerald Ford forced to admit the Warren Report fictionalized". It also shows the pic of the bloody shirt and jacket. The bullet hole location is impossible for going out the throat and into Connolly. It must travel UP if out the throat. Magic indeed. Obvious proof of hard credible conspiracy evidence.
The usual govt lie comeback is this evidence is JFKs shirt was bunched up.
@kcsunshine64 Being shot makes the body react differently than if force is being applied from a certain angle. It would take a long time to explain but please even if you think I am full of horseshit (which you probably do) have a look at the effects of being shot on the body.
Simple physics prove that JFK was shot from the front. At the moment of impact JFk's head and body slam backwards and to the left from the force of the bullet impact to his body. The simple law of conservation of momentum tell you that he was shot from the front-right side (right where the grassy knoll was)
Hunt confessed to the plot on his deathbed in 2004 after he was already found guilty in a civil suit. He was one of the tramps arrested in Dealey Plaza along with Frank Sturgis.
That's simply not true! There is no nefarious conspiracy behind JFK or 9/11. Bush didn't work for the CIA in 1962 he just let them use his Oil rigs to stage the Bay of Pigs, he was not in Dallas in front of the school book depository when JFK was shot! WRONG! (Conspiracy Fairy Tales) He was not a CIA plant who kept pointing up to the 6th floor and telling people what they saw!
JFK was killed by ONE MAN! Lee Harvey Oswald. 9/11 was done by Arabs on a Jihad! The Government NEVER lies!
The bullet that hit JFK went in the back left and out the front right, which is why the whole front right side of the head is blown off. The question is though...was there a second head shot? His head went back and his wife picked up a piece of brain off the trunk, which could only get there with a shot from the front. If you look close his head does forward just slightly then jolts back as if it were hit again.
@DavidAtleePhilips Yes I agree. JFK was shot from the front maybe as many as four times. But the head snap is a fiction. It never happened. No witnesses reported seeing the head snap. JFK was sitting upright when shot. What we see in the head snap is actually the car accelerating off at high speed after it had stopped completely. The Zapruder film cannot be trusted. It is a fraud. The head snap is there to disguise the limousine stop. JFK's limp dead weight flew back.
If you believe Lee Harvey Oswald did it then you must really be blind. Peter cover up Jennings is a wiesel who did a JFK documentary to disprove that his assasination was a conspiracy. A conspiracy is that he was shot from the back as we all see hime get hit from the front.
FYI, moron: There is NOT ONE piece of evidence to link Oswald as the triggerman in either the Tippit of JFK shootings. Nothing. If you want to waste my time as I disprove your every asinine assertion, go for it. I assure you, you will only wind up looking like a gullible idiot who sucked up the govt. lie without doing any research, analysis, & critical thinking. If you wish to humiliate yourself, go ahead.
Take your best shot, big mouth. Make your vaunted claims. Go. You have NOTHING, you empty little poser. You're a pathetic little trifler. Oh, how you brainwashed "true believers" in the govt's protracted campaign of historic revisionism sicken me. They had NO CASE in 1964 & even less today after Ruby confessed & declassified records reveal extra weapons + 5 additional bullets recovered, a clean hole thru the windshield & Oswald's CIA pay records. Now piss off, please, until you actually READ.
Old man I will give you some slack, however did you ever watch the show that the late Peter Jennings did on the 40th anniversary of the murder of J.F.K proving beyond a doubt that L.H.O. was not only the murderer of Kennedy & Tipett, but that he was an exspert marksman, and that with CGI reconstruction of the time and place around the limo the trajectory of the bullets come right back to the School book depository window & Oswalds gun and shellcasings of the slugs that hit Kennedy and Connally.
I AM an old man now, who saw JFK campaign, received his presidential letter, & was with Bobby in '68 the night b4 HE was assassinated (& NOT by Sirhan.) FYI: I have the Jennings fiction & can soundly disprove EACH false contention. It exceeds Youtube's 500-character limit, but if you truly want the TRUTH, I can post a rebuttal on your site. If I was acerbic b4, know: I resent being called "idiot" by those who haven't spent 1/10,000th of the time I have on this case, yet parrot the official lie.
look Jack , i'm not an ageist, nor an idiot, nor do I believe you to be, but frankly I find you're an angry heated, frustrated fellow who can't talk civil with somebody half your age, me.
I thought your generation was one that said "don't trust anyone over thirty", or something like that, I am not so narrow minded to believe that one cannot learn something from a person of another age group.
Send me a link or something to my mail, I am willing to listen to other points of view PEACE friend.
Mind you, you threw the 1st stone, calling me a liar & idiot, prompting my rancor. I am quite civil & enjoy engaging in a healthy exchange of ideas. I do not have ALL the answers, but alas, far too many that incontrovertibly underscore contextually, a complex "hub & wheel" matrix conspiracy in which LHO was but an expendable pawn. Raised in democratic society, our awareness is slow as we tend to conceptualize conspiracy only in its simplest form, thus rejecting implemetation as not viable.
The House Select Comittee on Assasination in 1973-74 concluded firmly that JFK was killed by a Conspiracy. They just couldn't conclude who all the major players were. Now, Young man; your own government SAYS JFK was killed by conspiracy.
but that was so long ago, and the new ballistic testing and computer simulations seem to show oswald acted alone, why cant you give the truth a shake?
Both the ballistics info and and computer similations are slightly comprimsed. The sherrif who brought the rifle into evidence is clearly on record saying the rifle the FBI showed the nation was not the one he put into evidence.
The computer simulation relies on the info PUT INTO it from the start. If that info does not include the other varibles - such as eye witness accounts, but only Gov.'s argument it will produce what they want.
Also - The conclusion of the Warren Commision: Oswald as assasin was determined pre-maturely - before any evidence was examined. And then of course, he was killed 2 days after the event. That was 1963.
1974:the house Committee re-examines the evidence and finds a Conspiracy.
You have accepted a 1964 explination - which was arrived at with ZERO INVESTIGATION and No Confession.
But you discount the 1974 investigation - which had 10 years of trails and evidence to make a determination?
...yet you refuse to look at the 2003 in depth investigation by honourable men...Peter Jennings, an honest reporter in Vietnam who became an American citizen and for a few short years ran ABC news as anchor...was no liar!
I dislike your pretentious overlooking posture, Mr. Henesy. Do join the army and try out your spirits on a round-the world mission. But maybe you´ll as well do with computer simulation and RPG impersonation, ha?
Even though I am still a teenager and forming my own thoughts about many of things, I am not narrow minded and came from a good family background, but what does it mean, nothing if I do not apply it.
Some gall your beef with me for me caring enough to care at all about the truth, whatever that is!
@Smithfilmproductions Anybody who sees this footage can tell that the head shot did not come from behind Kennedy. How do you explain that? Seriously I'd like to know because as far as I know, no one has been able to explain how Oswald could have made that shot.
@MrLeadfoot01 Yeah I've seen them too. It doesnt mean they're true. It seems like the always leave out key information. Remember that bullet holes were found in the ground that could not have come from Oswald. there was also a guy who recently confessed on his death bed that he was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
@Smithfilmproductions Anybody who sees the Zapruder film can tell that the head shot did not come from behind Kennedy. How do you explain that? Seriously I'd like to know because as far as I know, no one has been able to explain how Oswald could have made that shot. I saw a documentary once about this where they were able to prove that the head shot actually came from a sewer drain.
As far as the forward head motion goes it was a neuromuscular reaction. In fact if you look closely at the Zapruder film you will see Kennedy's head does go forward very quickly.
FBI weapons expert Robert Frazier got off three accurate shots with Oswald's rifle in 4.5 seconds, recycling the mechanism and re-aiming the rifle twice.
Now for that shot from the sewer crap. It's just that. Crap.Kennedy's head would not have been visible from the sewer at frame 313, the fatal shot.
@joecane6340 I'm curious, then, as to why the majority of the blood spatter goes forward, as in the direction of the bullet, and the majority of the exit damage is plainly forward of his right ear. That damage is so gigantic that it completely obscures the entire right side of his face from the camera for the remainder of the time he is still in view. The film shows quite plainly that the shot was from the rear; otherwise we'd see the majority of the exit damage in the rear half of his head.
@rrspyke they also said with at least 4 shots with 1 coming from the knoll and passed several things on to the justice dept. hoping they would look into it. of course they never did and the sound recordings of the shooting were "totally disproved".
Ignore them walrus they got zip and they know it NO PRINTS,the fbi's report PROVES IT.Tested negative on shooting 3 high-powered rifle shots.So how can these morons be so sure when the 2 most critical pieces of evidence makes it highly unlikely and clearly raises reasonable doubt on oswalds ''lone'' guilt? If oswald had a good not even a great defense attorney..he walks..oh but the agency couldnt allow that so they use their mob connections to tie up loose ends.
Thanks. On the evening of November 22, 1963, sitting in the White House, two of JFK's Irish aides talked quietly, the day's horror having given way to a numb persistent pain. Daniel Patrick Moynihan silently watched Ralph Dungan remove his pipe and lean forward toward his desk. Sadly, speculatively, cradling his head in his arms, Dungan spoke, already sensing the enormity of what was happening. "The hell of it is," he predicted to Moynihan, "they'll blame it all on that 24-year-old boy."
It does seem hard to believe that Oswald had the confidence to hit a moving target, I'm sure he was set up himself & then shot by Ruby.People that say they saw/heard shots from the grassy knoll can't all be making it up concerning Badgeman & the railway worker.
This was taken by a NBC cameraman. He had a simple portable camera. Just too bad no TV network were using their big cameras in Dealey Plaza. Then you would have had quality films WITH THE SOUND!
I've read that he just followed the crowd. If he did, then he did not followed them very long. I guess he was interested filming possible wounded bystanders on the grass.
He wasn't running as if he was trying to film but as if he thought that they may have apprehended the shooter. and that would indicate that some of the shots came from the knoll as well as the book store.
When Lee Harvey Oswald order his rifle for the assassination, he used the alias Alek J. Hidell. If you unscramble the letter it reads, JEH Killed Lea. J. Edgar Hoover?
There is no evidence that Oswald ordered the Carcano or picked it up from the Post Office. In fact, there is strong evidence supporting the likelihood that his signature on the order form was forged & postal inspector Holmes admitted there was nothing to link LHO with the Klein's Sporting Goods rifle. Plus, the 6 officers who found a weapon on the TSBD's 6th flr ID'd it as a 7.65 German Mauser, so stamped. No nitrate deposits were found on his face. Oswald never fired a shot that day.
Listen, you naive little ninny. You know NOTHING about this case beyond your kiddie pool toe-dipping test of assassination waters via CIA shil Posner's tract & Bugliosi's tome of fabrications. Come back after you've spent 44 years, as I have, in firsthand research + review of every published piece including WC & House volumes, FBI reports, declassifeid CIA memos, DPD records, LA DA files, etc. Interview eyewitnesses, MDs, & govt. officials as I have, THEN say, "lies, lies." Not now, you poser.
Just because your an old man does not mean that you "know" everything about this case, in fact as you are so old, are you getting Alzheimers, because you are acting so erratic over a meaningless debate...I mean dude, nothing we talk about is going to amount to crap at this late stage anyway.
Oh,how naive you are! The ramificatons of JFK's assassination today sit in the White House & highest councils of govt. If you knew ANYTHING about the conspiracy to overthrow his administration, you could not possibly make so jejune & foolish a remark. I will not "chill" until the full truth is conveyed. The problem is, the U.S. is now a post-democratic society that lives in denial of what occured in 1963. Until that truth is revealed & ACTED UPON, America will continue to be a fallen nation.
The guy in the Memorial structure specically gets up and looks directly at the fence behind the grassy knoll- carefully, as if to expect he might have to duck to the ground again. He knew where the shot(s) were fired from!
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I have seen still photos from this didnt know it was a full video. But those two are dubbed "Black Dog Man" and "Badge" (one is dark skinned (Bay of Pigs anyone?) and the other looks to be wearing a Dallas PD uniform). And before the shots witnesses claim they see "Black Dog Man" and "badge" sitting in the Grassy Gnoll, and "Black Dog" has an anteana behind his head and an object to his mouth. Seems alot like a military radio? Maybe "Black Dog" was in Bay of Pigs, suggesting CIA involvemetn
Funny. How many people here were even alive during this? I remember it like yesterday. Even beter I belive. The most astounding photos taken are of LBJ being sworn in on Air Force One. Not the official one, all the others with smiles and winks...
A cameraman not keeping his poise,and blowing his chance in history (to answer CAVS question).Why didnt he look up at the TSBD?Only thing good,is him running toward the knoll,and seeing peoples backs to the TSBD,SOMETHING NO ONE WOULD DO IF THEY KNEW Shots or a shot came from there.
They ran up the knoll following policeman you idiot,because thats where they heard gunfire,then some guy flashes an ss card yet, no REAL ss men were reported being there!So who the hell was this guy?
Look at the people in this video all of their backs are turned AWAY from the TSBD.Newman and his family,the couple by the monument the lady on the grass...all FACING the knoll.
Remember the people ran up the knoll(feeling obviously more brave,not being armed) following cops,..who did they see? Turns out, there were men pretending to be ss,they had fake id's,so that cover faked out the cops and got them outta there.Who the hell were these guys,and what were they doing there?!Possible suspects,witnessess,never questioned,breaking the law,real nice.
So is it impossible to believe a sniper takes a shot,hides in the trunk,his spotter(fake ss men)and they just drive off? What seems more possible? A guy who's barely better than a person who never fired a rifle makes that head shot,with that gun,with no practice?
damn. he could have had a FINE view of the grassy knoll if he wasn't panicking. It sucks all the footage and photos of the assassination turned out so crappy. could have seen the shooter if it was better.
i doubt that the crappy footage is just a coincidence. everything about the whole incident is shady. who knows what the government isnt allowing us to find out about it.
lol no kidding that film was actually pretty intense. all blurry then clear shot of man sitting next to person on ground, blurry *bam* woman on ground panicked...very cool. i sure wish people could hold still when filming back then gosh-darnit! lol
ABC cameraman James Underwood shot films in Dealey Plaza a few moments after the shots. His film was over-exposed or something. I think the best films were taken by NON-professional cameramen.
Look at the people all running around and panicking. Foolishly, conspiracy advocates almost always characterize this as "people chasing the assassin up the knoll." No they're not! They're running AWAY from the street because of a hail of bullets. Seriously, do you think peoples' first reaction would be to chase somebody with a gun? Even women and children? Pfft!
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Jim Marrs writes in Crossfire:The Plot That Killed Kennedy, that in the Weigman film, smoke (possibly from a rifle) is visible on the grassy knoll. I don't see it. Do you?
Jim Marrs writes in Crossfire:The Plot That Killed Kennedy, that in this video, smoke(possibly from a rifle) is visible on the grassy knoll. Can you see it? I can't.
lady at 0:22 wants anal sex from that guy. i've seen this move before. she wants it bad. but the dude chose to avoid the gunfire rather than getting laid. plus, it's in public and there were kids present. that's why he didn't mount her right there and then.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
Look at the guy at 0:24, I think he knew exactly where the shots near him came from.
conspiracydog11 9 months ago
this shows nothing
hownos 1 year ago
I was just a young boy then but I tried to save your big mr Kennedy president. at the hospital I decavitated him and pulled out this big fucking black widow spider over 25 feet across and put him in a chicken wire cage(really tricky procedure) everyone loved him so much. I offered him a bandade he was grazed.
inspectorcritic 1 year ago
I cant understand how ppl can say the Z film was altered, spliced, speeded up, the presidential limo braked or slowed down and so forth when this piece of film clearly shows the shootings took place in abt 7-8 seconds and all vehicles seemed to be moving consistently.
paraconti 1 year ago
@paraconti all vehicles moving consistently.the motocycle officers catch the presidential limosine whilst stopping.check out a few more videos from other angles and you will see quite clearly the the limo slows to an almost stop
thebrooksy011 8 months ago in playlist The JFK Assassination Films
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Here's what the wounding on the right/rear of the head looked like as the limo sped out of Dealey Plaza....
youtube.com/watch?v=WpM1P5TVdDc
Here from two Dealey Plaza films is the moment the wounding on the right rear of the head occurred...
youtube.com/watch?v=igMVdcT3FCo
Here's how the drs/nurses were physically in a position at his head to observe that right/rear wounding
youtube.com/watch?v=0Qc4fhaBoxI
mimusremedium 1 year ago
At 0:23 people are looking through the north pegoda at the picket fence area - because they have just heard a shot /s from there. Proof of conspiracy
funkmasterjee 1 year ago
IS THAT OSWALD STANDING IN THE DOORWAY @ 0004???????
sjstb03 1 year ago
@sjstb03 No. That's Billy Lovelady
funkmasterjee 1 year ago
wow.
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jhonnies123 1 year ago
@jhonnies123 What, you can't handle the TRUTH! OK smartarse whats your theory? Was it the CIA FBI KGB JEWS i read them ALL and not one of you conspiracy nuts can agree on anything.
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ProtectAus 1 year ago
The shots are almost simultaneous. The Zapruder film is a fake. When JFK is thrown back it is not because of the front head shot (he had already been shot before the car accelerated off)). Greer hit the accelerator and caused JFK's literally dead weight to to be flung back.Why weren't Jackie and the others flung back? Two reasons 1/ They were not dead weights.2/ They may have been flung back slightly but the frames showing this were removed from the Zapruder film.
The stop had to be hidden.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
This is the real scenario. JFK is shot two maybe three times from the back and then in the throat from the front. JFK is still upright. He is then shot in the head - in the left temple, in the top of the head just above the hairline. The car slows to a dead stop and JFK is then shot in the right temple. This is shot that people said blew his head off. JFK falls forward and then the car takes off at high speed. The sudden acceleration slams JFK back to the left.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
also if Lyndon Johnson wanted JFK out of the picture then why didn't he discredit him with one of the hundreds of covered up scandals? Surely that would be easier than to stage an assasination attempt from a place with a truly awful position for a sniper to fire from?
rich639 1 year ago
@rich639 I think that, had Johnson done just that, he would have discredited himself as much as Kennedy. Anyway, who knows that Johnson may have already blackmailed Kennedy but it failed to work.
WJCairns 1 year ago
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On June 4, 1963, John F Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110. This gave the U.S. Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. This gave the U.S. government back its power to issue currency, while stripping the Federal Reserve's power to loan money to the government at interest
fformaxx 2 years ago
yes, lbj killed jfk...then enacted all of the policies jfk wanted to enact. retards
somaliwarlord 2 years ago
Who's the retard here? You think men kill politically because they're obsessed with legislation or public policies? Or because they WANT POWER. Think about it. Kennedy was planning on pulling out of Vietnam, obviously LBJ wasn't on board with that one, was he? Just because he was on the same boat with civil rights doesn't make them the best of friends.
Pablofilmmaker 2 years ago
dave wiegman is my grandfather. :)
xxericapwxx 2 years ago 2
Congratulations! How's he doin' these days?
If he's no longer alive. Sorry.
Mobilecheese 2 years ago
Why would LBJ be allowed? Are you kidding me - You are right? LBJ was President - he had the reasons, the motivation, the Wink, the ducking moments prior to the shots, the reversals of policy after the assassination, the revelations by his mistress and secretary, the statements of Ruby (associated with Nixon as well), the now proven meetings between him and others prior to the coup, the tapes of his convos with Hoover of 'whitewash' - YOU ASSUME SOMEONE allowed him! What nonsense is that?
northmeister 2 years ago
NO LBJ spent his life in public service and would not risk his name like that
cjholl 2 years ago
You got it! LBJ was in on the assassination right up to the neck! He hated JFK and used to make fun of him behind his back. Apparently LBJ made fun of JFK's ankles. LBJ used to join his index finger and thumb into a tiny circle saying that JFK's ankles were that size. Bobby found out and was very angry and said:"I knew LBJ hated my brother but I never knew he hated him that much." Jackie caught LBJ chuckling over JFK's body in Trauma Room 1 when she walked in unexpectedly.Yep.LBJ hated JFK.
Mobilecheese 2 years ago
@Mobilecheese
Where do you get the last part from? "ackie caught LBJ chuckling over JFK's body in Trauma Room 1 "
Haven't heard that before. Whats ur source??
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 Jackie told it to Gore Vidal her cousin. It is common knowledge and is contained in Jackie's notes on the JFK assassination. These are not available until 2039. There are those assholes who deny that LBJ was even in Trauma Room 1 and claim that he stayed the whole time in Parkland Hospital stuck in his little room guarded by Youngblood. Jackie told Vidal her cousin who was perhaps on of the very few people she could trust with such a revelation. She may have told Bobby as well.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
Why would you run towards the shots? If they came from the knoll, why go and hide there? It wouldn't be safe...and namtitti, if you're going to make a case about how the government shouldn't control our lives, maybe you should proofread first. The government should definitely control the education you're receiving.
wraithleader501 2 years ago
wraith...you ASSUME to much much like ShutterBun...Asking questions on FAULTY LOGIC...then assuming to answer them...then using odd humor to try to SKIRT OVER the OBVIOUS. Question 1 answer: Because their President was just shot - called PATRIOTISM and COURAGE. - what Good People do, they don't run away. 2nd Question: N/A cause its based on assumption YOU MAKE about their motivations, how do you know why they did that - hiding? Come now! Your last points are not worth commenting on - nonsense.
northmeister 2 years ago
the logic, as a citizen and not the secret service or police, of running toward shots that have already been fired is faulty. as you can see in the video, and your assessment of the entry and exit wounds, given evidence from "doctors that were there at the time", is foolish. simply looking at the zapruder film, the damage to jfk's face is explainable. an exit wound is larger than an entry wound, especially for a high powered rifle like the one used.
wraithleader501 2 years ago
JFK's face? There was no damage to his face. What are you typing of? There are problems with the Zap Film - but overall it clearly shows backward motion etc. indicating a frontal entry pushing President Kennedy back and to the left, at the time he was suffering from either a frontal (doctors seem to indicate this) throat wound or other wounds from the rear (from DalTex and/or TSBD).
northmeister 2 years ago
Correctly put. The Z film correctly shows a shot from the front. The back of Kennedy's head was blown off and his face was in tact, indicating again that the shot was from his front. The autopsy photos were altered in an attempt to hide this fact.
TheTheme2002 2 years ago
Continued answer: The patrolman riding behind were splattered with brain tissue and blood - indicating exit wound to rear - as Doctors clearly outlined - the flap seen on Zap. could be pulled to cover rear exit as also indicated. The fatal shot came from the FRONT. If a rear shot had hit our President, then a large exit wound to the front from the TSBD would have clearly created damage to the facial area or left side of the head - especially considering placement of Pres. and Trees etc.
northmeister 2 years ago
continued argument. how is a throat shot possible in the front? the knoll is on a higher elevation than the car, and a shot to the throat would most likely shatter the jaw bone first. try looking forward. do you hold your head high enough to clearly see all of your throat? now, look at it from the position of someone on higher ground. according to the zapruder film, the throat shot is before the head shot, meaning the shot had to come from behind, or his face would already be gone, as you noted.
wraithleader501 2 years ago
This film is nothing but an arugment by the Federal Government for congress to approve Steadi-cam harnesses for the entire press corps!
On the other hand, I'm reasonably sure I saw Santa Claus and Clay Shaw smoking cuban cigars behind the picket fence in this clip...
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Skirting the obvious conclusion with dishonorable humor, disrespecting our President slain - won't change the fact that most of witnesses ran to the Knoll will it?
northmeister 2 years ago
"Most witnesses ran to the knoll," are you sure about that? Most estimates place the number who ran to the knoll at about 30 or 40 people at most, whereas several HUNDRED gathered around the TSBD. Also the number of witnesses who heard shots from the TSBD outnumber those who heard shots from the knoll by a substantial ratio. There were also 2 credible witnesses who actually SAW the rifle in the TSBD whereas nobody saw any shooting on the knoll (per their statements that day)
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Several 'hundred' gathered around the TSBD? Uh, and your point is? Many who have thoroughly investigated this, have shooting from three areas at least - the TSBD, the DALTEX building, and the Knoll. The eyewitnesses right where the limo was at the moment of the fatal headshot tend to AGREE as well - the Knoll is where that came from. There are more than two credible witnesses pointing to the Knoll and to mutiple shots beyond three - and actual footage to perview - and Doctors on back head wound.
northmeister 2 years ago
Let me clarify the last sentence: Doctors who said in on video hosted by Walter Conkrite (NOVA i believe) who were THERE that day to observe - that the HEAD WOUND was an EXIT WOUND on the back right area and ENTRY WOUND in the front right of head and throat. A outstanding policeman, who apparently committed suicide, also reported the casings in the TSBD were neatly aligned for findind, the weapon was a German not Italian brand - he ran to the Knoll area - as did a patrolman in the parade etc.
northmeister 2 years ago
I still think you are giving too much weight to recollections of "doctors who were there that day." They've all since reviewed the photographs and X-rays and agreed that all the shots came from the TSBD (even Cyril Wecht at his craziest will only propose that a missed shot or "simultaneous head shot" came from the knoll. The medical evidence simply doesn't support it, despite what the doctors at Parkland think/said they saw.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
You write: "they've ALL since reviewed the photographs and X-rays and agreed..." NOT TRUE. So your assertion based on this if FAULTY. Again, you discount credible Doctors, with years of real scientific training in medicine and others who've dealt with body - and confirm absolutely of a back exit wound, with flap that could cover it over, what seem like doctored autopsy photos - a missing brain - etc. Instead you rely on a political document 'Warren' obvious in LBJ tapes now, and Specter theory
northmeister 2 years ago
My point is: to soundly dispute your contention that "most of witnesses rant to the Knoll" (sic)
Beyond that, you seem to be giving WAY too much weight to eyewitness testimony, much of which doesn't even agree with other eyewitness testimony. People heard as few as 2 and as many as "4 to 6" shots, from either then Knoll or the TSBD. Only 2 claimed (that day) to hear shots from 2 different points. If you're looking for a preponderance of evidence, it's 3 shots from the TSBD, by a wide margin.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
First - correct my typos rather than making a crude point about them (ie. sic). Second - Your way off in never-never land assuming all sorts of things that went on inside the minds of conspirators or the lonely nut who claimed until the end his innocence was in the employ (documented since) of the CIA and FBI thus is use of the CIA 'patsy' etc. You discount actual eyewitness testimony from credible sources including a decorated policeman and those nearest the shooting in favor of pseudo-science.
northmeister 2 years ago
What behooves me ShutterBun2, is I truly want to believe the 'Warren' THEORY - but the fact it simply reiterated Hoover's FBI report - the fact is discounted legitimate evidence - the acoustic evidence and everything else - drive away from that THEORY and political document (listen to the LBJ tapes with Hoover and others) and its magic bullets etc. and toward private investigations of others concerned for our country who seem more credible. I wish only the truth on this - Who? LBJ. See Ruby...
northmeister 2 years ago
The acoustic evidence was not known to exist at the time of the Warren Commission, though I doubt it would have changed anyone's mind. The HSCA's findings on the acoustic evidence are tragically flawed, in my opinion. If the Warren Commission (and its report) were truly a government-sponsored whitewash, why would some of its own members, as well as LBJ be allowed to publically express doubts about it?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
@ShutterBun2 After the shots were fired those nearest the incident ran to the Knoll. You say several 100 'gathered' at the TSBD. When did they 'gather' there and how long does it take 'several 100' people to gather together? Are you saying 'several 100' people appeared at the TSBD after the shots. For a start there was already a significant number of people gathered at the TSBD even BEFORE the shots were fired. There was an even greater number gathered at Love Field. What is your point?!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
PROOF of the front entry bullets on JFK
'Wound of Entry, part 2' at 6:30-6:40 shows the small entry bullet hole into the throat of Kennedy, just as Parkland hospital doctors said it was. This picture is the proof of the frontal shot (certainly not Oswald) BEFORE the doctor did the tracheotomy.
Notice on the same picture the attempt to block out the 2nd entry shot from the front, above the right eye on the hairline. This picture is proof of 2 frontal shots, as the Parkland doctor said it was.
grassyknollkiller 2 years ago
Check out James Files' interview. He is very believable. Of course many of you will see a tin foil hat which is helpful in insulating YOURSELVES from those harmful "conspiracy" waves.
aikido7 2 years ago
I see pufts of smoke coming from the Grass Knoll.... ooooooooooooooh
LDD86 2 years ago
THE PUFFS OF SMOKE ARE COMMIN' FROM YOUR BRAIN![that it had enough energy to type] I'll delete your responce beforeIi read it. So don't bother comming up with any thing clever! Just keep letting our government controll your stupid life.;
namtitti 2 years ago
from about 0:22 to 0:25 you can see a spectator turn around and look behind the wall. Something brought his attention immediately to that area.
bt10ant 2 years ago
at 21 sec there is that a face at far right in the 3rd gap from the top?
tmny876 3 years ago
The guy at 00:15 is covering his face when he notices a camera is approaching him. He looks like the 'dark complected man', doesn't he?
Dikwerf 3 years ago
Has anybody asked George H.W. Bush where he was?
Eidelmania 3 years ago
He, like Richard Nixon, can't remember where he was or what he was doing that day...
They also have both changed their version of their story of what they were doing that day!
DavidAtleePhilips 3 years ago 2
R.M.Nixon was in Dallas on the morning of 11-22-'63 at a Bottlers' Bottle Convention. (source material)
onceANexile 3 years ago
The Pepsi bottler's convention which Nixon (very publicly) attended was the night BEFORE the assassination. He was already in the air Firday by the time it all went down. Are you prepared to accuse Joan Crawford of conspiracy, too?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
@ShutterBun2 Yes I would. Joan Crawford was a dissolute drunken hag and bum. When she died Betty Davis (not Crawford's greatest friend) was asked if she had anything to say about Crawford's passing .Davis replied:
" You should not say anything bad about the dead.
So, all I will say is ....She's dead. Good."
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
Check out the guy at 0:24 looking through the fence. Odds are he saw the shooter.
Mojomanmadness1971 3 years ago
car didn't stop as a choice by the driver really....but as they were making that awkward turn it slowed considerably and that's when the first shot rang out....after that the driver was still in slow mode as he looked back (some report that the SS guy was afraid someone was at the overpass so he was reluctant to move forward w/o direction). anyway by the time he made a decision the head shot was done....
bestdayz 3 years ago
Really clear.
thrownoff3times 3 years ago 2
lol!
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nofunk123 3 years ago
Was the man who got up from the grass, looking in the direction that the sound of gunshots came from? I think so. He might even have seen one of the killers and didn't even realise it.
williamkanegateshead 3 years ago
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I've looked at this assassination over and over and I'm still convinced Jackie did the head shot. While the limo was slowing down,pulling to the left where there were few witnesses, Jackie pushes down on jfk's left elbow(forcing him to lean towards her)Jackie's right arm goes on the back of the seat,she leaned to him,BANG,and tosses the weapon. Notice how the motorbike cop parks his bike in the exact spot she does the tossing motion. That's when he mentions the knoll to rid the attention.
moultriegadog 3 years ago
That is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard to now...you need to get a life.
clyde8her 3 years ago
moultrieadog, you only show your abject ignorance when you make a statment like that. You are obviously a complete moron with shit for brains. Crawl back into you cave and stay there dipshit.
ir21ymail 3 years ago
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Kennedy was killed by the mafia working with elements of the CIA. Like they were working together during bay of pigs. The mafia is very powerful. Oswald was a patsy, and he was not supposed to get caught. That is why Ruby (who was a part of the jewish mob/teamsters) killed Oswald. Today's mainstream media, which is controlled by the right wing Neocons, is still trying to brainwash the American people Oswald was a commi. Oswald was being 'handled' by the mafia & Cia/ Guy Banister in particular.
clautrice07 3 years ago
interesting how his first thoughts are to jump out and run to the knoll - not any of the bldgs - i wonder what he heard?
wkwickham 3 years ago
That is a great point! I saw a clip of a couple dozen people running toward the knoll just second's after the shot's fired! Sadly, all that just does not seem to matter!
44skins 3 years ago 2
Web search "59 witnesses delay on elm street".
DPD James Chaney(1 of 4 Presidential motorcyclists) stated the limousine stopped momentarily after the first shot. "...at the time, after the shooting, from the time the first shot rang out, the car stopped completely, pulled to the left and stopped. Several officers said it stopped completely." [2 H 44-45 (Lane)---refering to Chaney's statement as reported in the "Houston Chronicle" dated 11/24/63; 3 H 266 (Baker)
The Z-film does not show truth.
grassyknollkiller 3 years ago
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If you want the answer on the agents super-human speed in getting to the limo, just think CONSPIRACY.
The Zapruder film was heavily edited to fool the people.
On a search engine type in "jfk assassination film hoax". Go to the bottom of the page and enjoy the Zapruder film clips that show how your government is trying to make a fool out of you.
Yes...agents can move very fast on edited and cut and pasted film.
grassyknollkiller 3 years ago
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In the AOL search engine put in: 'gerald ford warren report'. Several webpages to read.
The first site is good. "Gerald Ford forced to admit the Warren Report fictionalized". It also shows the pic of the bloody shirt and jacket. The bullet hole location is impossible for going out the throat and into Connolly. It must travel UP if out the throat. Magic indeed. Obvious proof of hard credible conspiracy evidence.
The usual govt lie comeback is this evidence is JFKs shirt was bunched up.
grassyknollkiller 3 years ago
yeah the government never lies eh dude. Lawyers don't either I'll bet. Ignore physics if you will. There is no way Lee Oswlad fired those shots.
kcsunshine64 3 years ago 5
@kcsunshine64 You sir are re-fucking-tarted. The government covers up EVERYTHING, because of how easily you idiot's are manipulated.
thehero00 1 year ago
@kcsunshine64 Being shot makes the body react differently than if force is being applied from a certain angle. It would take a long time to explain but please even if you think I am full of horseshit (which you probably do) have a look at the effects of being shot on the body.
rich639 1 year ago
@kcsunshine64 then how exactly did they find the rifle that shot kennedy in the book depository?
incinerator327 1 year ago
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gingerpride123456789 3 years ago
Simple physics prove that JFK was shot from the front. At the moment of impact JFk's head and body slam backwards and to the left from the force of the bullet impact to his body. The simple law of conservation of momentum tell you that he was shot from the front-right side (right where the grassy knoll was)
Hunt confessed to the plot on his deathbed in 2004 after he was already found guilty in a civil suit. He was one of the tramps arrested in Dealey Plaza along with Frank Sturgis.
DavidAtleePhilips 3 years ago 2
That's simply not true! There is no nefarious conspiracy behind JFK or 9/11. Bush didn't work for the CIA in 1962 he just let them use his Oil rigs to stage the Bay of Pigs, he was not in Dallas in front of the school book depository when JFK was shot! WRONG! (Conspiracy Fairy Tales) He was not a CIA plant who kept pointing up to the 6th floor and telling people what they saw!
JFK was killed by ONE MAN! Lee Harvey Oswald. 9/11 was done by Arabs on a Jihad! The Government NEVER lies!
PaidDisinfoShill 3 years ago
ha ha your funny
BadNewsBrown1 3 years ago
The bullet that hit JFK went in the back left and out the front right, which is why the whole front right side of the head is blown off. The question is though...was there a second head shot? His head went back and his wife picked up a piece of brain off the trunk, which could only get there with a shot from the front. If you look close his head does forward just slightly then jolts back as if it were hit again.
Jvideo12 3 years ago
@DavidAtleePhilips Yes I agree. JFK was shot from the front maybe as many as four times. But the head snap is a fiction. It never happened. No witnesses reported seeing the head snap. JFK was sitting upright when shot. What we see in the head snap is actually the car accelerating off at high speed after it had stopped completely. The Zapruder film cannot be trusted. It is a fraud. The head snap is there to disguise the limousine stop. JFK's limp dead weight flew back.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
If you believe Lee Harvey Oswald did it then you must really be blind. Peter cover up Jennings is a wiesel who did a JFK documentary to disprove that his assasination was a conspiracy. A conspiracy is that he was shot from the back as we all see hime get hit from the front.
MarCavalier23 3 years ago
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i just want to know who killed TUPAC..so i can shake his hand...now that was a majic bullet..LMAO.... LBJ
hot4urass 3 years ago
idiot.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
FYI, moron: There is NOT ONE piece of evidence to link Oswald as the triggerman in either the Tippit of JFK shootings. Nothing. If you want to waste my time as I disprove your every asinine assertion, go for it. I assure you, you will only wind up looking like a gullible idiot who sucked up the govt. lie without doing any research, analysis, & critical thinking. If you wish to humiliate yourself, go ahead.
WALRU11 3 years ago
it is easy to disprove everything you have said.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
Take your best shot, big mouth. Make your vaunted claims. Go. You have NOTHING, you empty little poser. You're a pathetic little trifler. Oh, how you brainwashed "true believers" in the govt's protracted campaign of historic revisionism sicken me. They had NO CASE in 1964 & even less today after Ruby confessed & declassified records reveal extra weapons + 5 additional bullets recovered, a clean hole thru the windshield & Oswald's CIA pay records. Now piss off, please, until you actually READ.
WALRU11 3 years ago
Old man I will give you some slack, however did you ever watch the show that the late Peter Jennings did on the 40th anniversary of the murder of J.F.K proving beyond a doubt that L.H.O. was not only the murderer of Kennedy & Tipett, but that he was an exspert marksman, and that with CGI reconstruction of the time and place around the limo the trajectory of the bullets come right back to the School book depository window & Oswalds gun and shellcasings of the slugs that hit Kennedy and Connally.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
I AM an old man now, who saw JFK campaign, received his presidential letter, & was with Bobby in '68 the night b4 HE was assassinated (& NOT by Sirhan.) FYI: I have the Jennings fiction & can soundly disprove EACH false contention. It exceeds Youtube's 500-character limit, but if you truly want the TRUTH, I can post a rebuttal on your site. If I was acerbic b4, know: I resent being called "idiot" by those who haven't spent 1/10,000th of the time I have on this case, yet parrot the official lie.
WALRU11 3 years ago
look Jack , i'm not an ageist, nor an idiot, nor do I believe you to be, but frankly I find you're an angry heated, frustrated fellow who can't talk civil with somebody half your age, me.
I thought your generation was one that said "don't trust anyone over thirty", or something like that, I am not so narrow minded to believe that one cannot learn something from a person of another age group.
Send me a link or something to my mail, I am willing to listen to other points of view PEACE friend.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
Mind you, you threw the 1st stone, calling me a liar & idiot, prompting my rancor. I am quite civil & enjoy engaging in a healthy exchange of ideas. I do not have ALL the answers, but alas, far too many that incontrovertibly underscore contextually, a complex "hub & wheel" matrix conspiracy in which LHO was but an expendable pawn. Raised in democratic society, our awareness is slow as we tend to conceptualize conspiracy only in its simplest form, thus rejecting implemetation as not viable.
WALRU11 3 years ago
The House Select Comittee on Assasination in 1973-74 concluded firmly that JFK was killed by a Conspiracy. They just couldn't conclude who all the major players were. Now, Young man; your own government SAYS JFK was killed by conspiracy.
Are you going to change your mind now?
rrspyke 3 years ago 4
but that was so long ago, and the new ballistic testing and computer simulations seem to show oswald acted alone, why cant you give the truth a shake?
I like your tenacity however..lol
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
Both the ballistics info and and computer similations are slightly comprimsed. The sherrif who brought the rifle into evidence is clearly on record saying the rifle the FBI showed the nation was not the one he put into evidence.
The computer simulation relies on the info PUT INTO it from the start. If that info does not include the other varibles - such as eye witness accounts, but only Gov.'s argument it will produce what they want.
rrspyke 3 years ago 2
Also - The conclusion of the Warren Commision: Oswald as assasin was determined pre-maturely - before any evidence was examined. And then of course, he was killed 2 days after the event. That was 1963.
1974:the house Committee re-examines the evidence and finds a Conspiracy.
You have accepted a 1964 explination - which was arrived at with ZERO INVESTIGATION and No Confession.
But you discount the 1974 investigation - which had 10 years of trails and evidence to make a determination?
rrspyke 3 years ago 2
...yet you refuse to look at the 2003 in depth investigation by honourable men...Peter Jennings, an honest reporter in Vietnam who became an American citizen and for a few short years ran ABC news as anchor...was no liar!
:|
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
I dislike your pretentious overlooking posture, Mr. Henesy. Do join the army and try out your spirits on a round-the world mission. But maybe you´ll as well do with computer simulation and RPG impersonation, ha?
leptadlo 3 years ago
Even though I am still a teenager and forming my own thoughts about many of things, I am not narrow minded and came from a good family background, but what does it mean, nothing if I do not apply it.
Some gall your beef with me for me caring enough to care at all about the truth, whatever that is!
Bye
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
the trajectory never lined up to the 6th floor to begin with..3rd floor of the dal-tex?just right.
bouncer97 3 years ago
@rrspyke Let's see. No there was not a conspiracy. The House Select Committee said there was a POSSIBILITY of a conspiracy. Oswald acted alone.
Smithfilmproductions 1 year ago
@Smithfilmproductions Anybody who sees this footage can tell that the head shot did not come from behind Kennedy. How do you explain that? Seriously I'd like to know because as far as I know, no one has been able to explain how Oswald could have made that shot.
joecane6340 7 months ago
@joecane6340 ive seen 4 documentries saying it came from the TSBD
MrLeadfoot01 6 months ago in playlist The JFK Assassination Films
@MrLeadfoot01 Yeah I've seen them too. It doesnt mean they're true. It seems like the always leave out key information. Remember that bullet holes were found in the ground that could not have come from Oswald. there was also a guy who recently confessed on his death bed that he was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
joecane6340 6 months ago
@Smithfilmproductions Anybody who sees the Zapruder film can tell that the head shot did not come from behind Kennedy. How do you explain that? Seriously I'd like to know because as far as I know, no one has been able to explain how Oswald could have made that shot. I saw a documentary once about this where they were able to prove that the head shot actually came from a sewer drain.
joecane6340 7 months ago
@joecane6340
As far as the forward head motion goes it was a neuromuscular reaction. In fact if you look closely at the Zapruder film you will see Kennedy's head does go forward very quickly.
FBI weapons expert Robert Frazier got off three accurate shots with Oswald's rifle in 4.5 seconds, recycling the mechanism and re-aiming the rifle twice.
Now for that shot from the sewer crap. It's just that. Crap.Kennedy's head would not have been visible from the sewer at frame 313, the fatal shot.
Smithfilmproductions 7 months ago
@joecane6340 I'm curious, then, as to why the majority of the blood spatter goes forward, as in the direction of the bullet, and the majority of the exit damage is plainly forward of his right ear. That damage is so gigantic that it completely obscures the entire right side of his face from the camera for the remainder of the time he is still in view. The film shows quite plainly that the shot was from the rear; otherwise we'd see the majority of the exit damage in the rear half of his head.
Caeruleo 6 months ago
@rrspyke they also said with at least 4 shots with 1 coming from the knoll and passed several things on to the justice dept. hoping they would look into it. of course they never did and the sound recordings of the shooting were "totally disproved".
pat442389 9 months ago
Ignore them walrus they got zip and they know it NO PRINTS,the fbi's report PROVES IT.Tested negative on shooting 3 high-powered rifle shots.So how can these morons be so sure when the 2 most critical pieces of evidence makes it highly unlikely and clearly raises reasonable doubt on oswalds ''lone'' guilt? If oswald had a good not even a great defense attorney..he walks..oh but the agency couldnt allow that so they use their mob connections to tie up loose ends.
bouncer97 3 years ago
Thanks. On the evening of November 22, 1963, sitting in the White House, two of JFK's Irish aides talked quietly, the day's horror having given way to a numb persistent pain. Daniel Patrick Moynihan silently watched Ralph Dungan remove his pipe and lean forward toward his desk. Sadly, speculatively, cradling his head in his arms, Dungan spoke, already sensing the enormity of what was happening. "The hell of it is," he predicted to Moynihan, "they'll blame it all on that 24-year-old boy."
WALRU11 3 years ago
It does seem hard to believe that Oswald had the confidence to hit a moving target, I'm sure he was set up himself & then shot by Ruby.People that say they saw/heard shots from the grassy knoll can't all be making it up concerning Badgeman & the railway worker.
johngolby 3 years ago
poor photography, sad cameras back in the day.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
This was taken by a NBC cameraman. He had a simple portable camera. Just too bad no TV network were using their big cameras in Dealey Plaza. Then you would have had quality films WITH THE SOUND!
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
The URSS kills to JOHN F. KENNEDY during the COLD WAR. the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT knows it very well.
why it hide the american goverment the this information????????.
the reason was THE MISILS IN CUBA
JOHN F.KENNEDY VS NIKITA KHRUSCHEV
trashspeedmetal 3 years ago
If the shots came from the book depository , why did the cameraman run to the pavillion on the Knoll?
keemosobbee 3 years ago
I've read that he just followed the crowd. If he did, then he did not followed them very long. I guess he was interested filming possible wounded bystanders on the grass.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
He wasn't running as if he was trying to film but as if he thought that they may have apprehended the shooter. and that would indicate that some of the shots came from the knoll as well as the book store.
keemosobbee 3 years ago
Brilliant
DD826 3 years ago
When Lee Harvey Oswald order his rifle for the assassination, he used the alias Alek J. Hidell. If you unscramble the letter it reads, JEH Killed Lea. J. Edgar Hoover?
PervisJohnson 3 years ago
There is no evidence that Oswald ordered the Carcano or picked it up from the Post Office. In fact, there is strong evidence supporting the likelihood that his signature on the order form was forged & postal inspector Holmes admitted there was nothing to link LHO with the Klein's Sporting Goods rifle. Plus, the 6 officers who found a weapon on the TSBD's 6th flr ID'd it as a 7.65 German Mauser, so stamped. No nitrate deposits were found on his face. Oswald never fired a shot that day.
WALRU11 3 years ago 2
lies lies, all lies!
do you think that repeating your lies is going to changed the fact that Oswald acted alone in the killing of the President????
nope!
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
Listen, you naive little ninny. You know NOTHING about this case beyond your kiddie pool toe-dipping test of assassination waters via CIA shil Posner's tract & Bugliosi's tome of fabrications. Come back after you've spent 44 years, as I have, in firsthand research + review of every published piece including WC & House volumes, FBI reports, declassifeid CIA memos, DPD records, LA DA files, etc. Interview eyewitnesses, MDs, & govt. officials as I have, THEN say, "lies, lies." Not now, you poser.
WALRU11 3 years ago
Just because your an old man does not mean that you "know" everything about this case, in fact as you are so old, are you getting Alzheimers, because you are acting so erratic over a meaningless debate...I mean dude, nothing we talk about is going to amount to crap at this late stage anyway.
chill man.
DavidHenesy 3 years ago
Oh,how naive you are! The ramificatons of JFK's assassination today sit in the White House & highest councils of govt. If you knew ANYTHING about the conspiracy to overthrow his administration, you could not possibly make so jejune & foolish a remark. I will not "chill" until the full truth is conveyed. The problem is, the U.S. is now a post-democratic society that lives in denial of what occured in 1963. Until that truth is revealed & ACTED UPON, America will continue to be a fallen nation.
WALRU11 3 years ago
The guy in the Memorial structure specically gets up and looks directly at the fence behind the grassy knoll- carefully, as if to expect he might have to duck to the ground again. He knew where the shot(s) were fired from!
p101James 3 years ago
Hold that tiger!
p101James 3 years ago
he's running where he heard the shots come from like everyone else on the ground
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domin8er 4 years ago
I only see shaking. This must have been the aftermath of the assassination.
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tertui 4 years ago
I have seen still photos from this didnt know it was a full video. But those two are dubbed "Black Dog Man" and "Badge" (one is dark skinned (Bay of Pigs anyone?) and the other looks to be wearing a Dallas PD uniform). And before the shots witnesses claim they see "Black Dog Man" and "badge" sitting in the Grassy Gnoll, and "Black Dog" has an anteana behind his head and an object to his mouth. Seems alot like a military radio? Maybe "Black Dog" was in Bay of Pigs, suggesting CIA involvemetn
digglefallen93 4 years ago
history is written by the winners folks. keep that in mind.
xgunther 4 years ago
another "inside" job
calmemaggie 4 years ago
that video is not good quality
lambsrock42 4 years ago
Funny. How many people here were even alive during this? I remember it like yesterday. Even beter I belive. The most astounding photos taken are of LBJ being sworn in on Air Force One. Not the official one, all the others with smiles and winks...
skipjackbj 4 years ago
What this movie is supposed to show?
ilcavaliere147 4 years ago
A cameraman not keeping his poise,and blowing his chance in history (to answer CAVS question).Why didnt he look up at the TSBD?Only thing good,is him running toward the knoll,and seeing peoples backs to the TSBD,SOMETHING NO ONE WOULD DO IF THEY KNEW Shots or a shot came from there.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Bullseye. Brainectomy.
LeeHarveyOswald63 4 years ago
They ran up the knoll following policeman you idiot,because thats where they heard gunfire,then some guy flashes an ss card yet, no REAL ss men were reported being there!So who the hell was this guy?
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Look at the people in this video all of their backs are turned AWAY from the TSBD.Newman and his family,the couple by the monument the lady on the grass...all FACING the knoll.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
Remember the people ran up the knoll(feeling obviously more brave,not being armed) following cops,..who did they see? Turns out, there were men pretending to be ss,they had fake id's,so that cover faked out the cops and got them outta there.Who the hell were these guys,and what were they doing there?!Possible suspects,witnessess,never questioned,breaking the law,real nice.
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
So is it impossible to believe a sniper takes a shot,hides in the trunk,his spotter(fake ss men)and they just drive off? What seems more possible? A guy who's barely better than a person who never fired a rifle makes that head shot,with that gun,with no practice?
chubbychaser31 4 years ago
from what i understand, and im not saying that oswald commited this act, oswald WAS a skilled marksman. he was a marine.
drwierd 4 years ago
what he said!
jrl91 4 years ago
all assassinations are a mystery and the real one is in the presidents book of secrets
arturrrr 4 years ago
damn. he could have had a FINE view of the grassy knoll if he wasn't panicking. It sucks all the footage and photos of the assassination turned out so crappy. could have seen the shooter if it was better.
kruns11 4 years ago
i doubt that the crappy footage is just a coincidence. everything about the whole incident is shady. who knows what the government isnt allowing us to find out about it.
TurboNeon185 4 years ago
lol no kidding that film was actually pretty intense. all blurry then clear shot of man sitting next to person on ground, blurry *bam* woman on ground panicked...very cool. i sure wish people could hold still when filming back then gosh-darnit! lol
Shmoob1 4 years ago
ABC cameraman James Underwood shot films in Dealey Plaza a few moments after the shots. His film was over-exposed or something. I think the best films were taken by NON-professional cameramen.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
Look at the people all running around and panicking. Foolishly, conspiracy advocates almost always characterize this as "people chasing the assassin up the knoll." No they're not! They're running AWAY from the street because of a hail of bullets. Seriously, do you think peoples' first reaction would be to chase somebody with a gun? Even women and children? Pfft!
davidemerling 4 years ago
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It was actually a squib. There was no real shooting, no death and the president is now cooking burgers in a diner near area 51.
After all he's an alien like all of the other presidents.
alcamie 4 years ago
lol i do agree with u. i mean 100% not cuz its funny but cuz its ture
ANESTORLAK 4 years ago
What a fuckin stupid comment.
iaz300 4 years ago
wow thats pityful
coochieXeater 4 years ago
just like in scary movie 3
kiren77 4 years ago
DA Phillips false defection mkultradouble drug program with Bill HarveyDQ hoover telexed the Albert Schweitzer school in Switzerland in 1960 wanting to know if LEE Harvey Oswald had arrived for classes FBI agent' s Seibert and O'Neil testified the brain they saw on the 29th was different thanthe 22nd and the boring bullet CE399 from a lone bowl of collective nuts on a bushy knoll of grass in a bar with free multiple shooters leftmore fragment matter than that
1122minus911 4 years ago
Jim Marrs writes in Crossfire:The Plot That Killed Kennedy, that in the Weigman film, smoke (possibly from a rifle) is visible on the grassy knoll. I don't see it. Do you?
perkwombat 4 years ago
Jim Marrs writes in Crossfire:The Plot That Killed Kennedy, that in this video, smoke(possibly from a rifle) is visible on the grassy knoll. Can you see it? I can't.
perkwombat 4 years ago
You would only see it if the shooter was firing a muzzle loading musket!
I don't know much about firearms but don't modern firearms use "smokeless powder"?
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
Yeah but they still have a muzzle flash, they do smoke if alot of rounds are fired from them but it wouldn't be possible to see.
iaz300 4 years ago
Watch the 1967 CBS JFK assassination special if you can. In it there is a rifleman shooting with a rifle, and you'll see the smoke coming out.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago