Whoa, totally different. I screamed for them to play this in concert right after Betty came out. They didnt and we began to rock the barrier back and forth and my finger slipped under the rail and almost lopped off my finger tip. I will never forget that show!
Yet another "work-in-progress" version ... Page certainly spent time developing his songs before recording them. That's why bootlegs are so cool; you get to hear the evolution of a song. However, I strongly disagree with whoever said this is better than the album version. The album version is incredible, with a rhythmic arrangement that is warped, even for Helmet. I can play and sing it easily but I still can't define the time signature of the verse.
Betty is one of the few albums in my lifetime that I wish I could experience buying it and listening to it again for the first time. I like the Helmet of the 90's more than the Helmet that is around today. Man I've listened to this album a thousand times if I've listened to it once. I soooo wish I could buy experience it all again for the first time. Bands that are around today suck.
I like it, like many betty song, however Milquetoast have a special place for, it's the tune that made me discover helmet, it was on MTV, I was totally blown away
This sounds so much different (and better) than the album version. I can't even reconcile what part is consistent with what is on Betty. Regardless, this version bakes.
At first I thought exactly the same thing, but strangely, I began to like Vaccination on Betty more after listening to this version. Eventually, it even became my favorite song, eventhough I initially thought of it as one of many good but not outstanding songs on Betty.
The main verse riff of this version is what later became the chorus riff, by the way. But Stanier plays a different drum line over it, which gives it a certain drive.
Wow, I have this concert on video somewhere. it was mostly 'Meantime' material, and pre-Betty tunes. There's a really cool unreleased tune in the middle of the set, don't remember the name, but Helmet did record it. He says Hou-Stone (or stoned) at one point. Great vid!
Thanks for the vid. Glad to see folks giving J. Stanier the respect he deserves. Saw numerous helmet shows in the UK thru 94-95. The night before thier first gig in london in 94, happend to see Paige and John drinking beers at this hole in the wall called the cabbage patch. It seemed they were happy to run into another american, and I was guest list bound. Even a year later at another london gig, John searched us out, bummed a bunch of cigs and was late to perform. Very authentic guy.
John Stanier, man! I´ve heard he´s teaching at a jazz-university in N.Y nowadays... Is that true? Helmet is the greatest. "Size Matters" disappointed me, but man, when "Monochrome" was released it totally kicked ass! Sounded more like a mix between "Strap It On" and "Size Matters". I LOVE Helmet.
FBLAII is quite a regular on any concert before the Aftertaste tour, so I didn't feel the need to post, but maybe I'll do once I'm through the more rare stuff. Did I mention I love FBLAII?
Yeah, that was in re: the album version. It was a recent interview where he was reminiscing, and he said he couldn't believe they could play that without a click track.
I think the lead riff from that song is very hard to play, Page has said the album version was quite difficult to play well live. So they probably changed it for that reason.
I think you're speaking of the verse riff from the album version? Cause it really takes a lot of practicing before one can play that one right.
The main (chorus) riff that is also played in this '93 version all the time is easy as hell, on the other hand. It's just 0/3-0/444 on the 4th-6th string over and over again :) .
Not sure why they changed it, but I can say that in Seattle a few weeks back someone yelled up for Vaccination (to play of course) and he caught the comment and made a funny comment about "no way -- too hard". I think he also made the comment about Street Crab but he did play the intro to it.
no wonder these fags never got any bigger they suck, they sound like a muddy subpar verison of a grunge band, and at least grunge is catchy.
axllovesslash 5 months ago
was this show at the Abyss or the Vatican?
longhorn2615 1 year ago
@longhorn2615 , anyone know, Bueller??
longhorn2615 5 months ago
Whoa, totally different. I screamed for them to play this in concert right after Betty came out. They didnt and we began to rock the barrier back and forth and my finger slipped under the rail and almost lopped off my finger tip. I will never forget that show!
theivory1 2 years ago
Great version of this awesome Helmet song! Love the clean vocals and different arrangement, almost sounds like a shoegaze song.
cryostasium 2 years ago
Yet another "work-in-progress" version ... Page certainly spent time developing his songs before recording them. That's why bootlegs are so cool; you get to hear the evolution of a song. However, I strongly disagree with whoever said this is better than the album version. The album version is incredible, with a rhythmic arrangement that is warped, even for Helmet. I can play and sing it easily but I still can't define the time signature of the verse.
ifutureman 2 years ago 2
Betty is one of the few albums in my lifetime that I wish I could experience buying it and listening to it again for the first time. I like the Helmet of the 90's more than the Helmet that is around today. Man I've listened to this album a thousand times if I've listened to it once. I soooo wish I could buy experience it all again for the first time. Bands that are around today suck.
2ndDayRiffs 2 years ago 8
...totally agreement!
Koensgen 2 years ago
my fav song on betty especially the mid breakdown and ending
this live version is wierd though with the clean vocals and diff arrangement
BabyFacedAssassin301 3 years ago
I like it, like many betty song, however Milquetoast have a special place for, it's the tune that made me discover helmet, it was on MTV, I was totally blown away
mirak63 2 years ago
is that rob cheveria on the guitar?? huahuahaa
so young.
great version of the song!!
ultrajoint 3 years ago
this sound more like nirvana in fact
Stainers is so fucking good, there is not that much drummers with such a beat
mirak63 3 years ago
He is really, really good.
andersbrown 3 years ago
This sounds so much different (and better) than the album version. I can't even reconcile what part is consistent with what is on Betty. Regardless, this version bakes.
andersbrown 3 years ago
At first I thought exactly the same thing, but strangely, I began to like Vaccination on Betty more after listening to this version. Eventually, it even became my favorite song, eventhough I initially thought of it as one of many good but not outstanding songs on Betty.
The main verse riff of this version is what later became the chorus riff, by the way. But Stanier plays a different drum line over it, which gives it a certain drive.
maker00m 3 years ago
This tune's recorded version isn't that great at all.
TupolevTech 3 years ago
@andersbrown me too i love this version. I prefer how the chorus riff from the album is more of a feature in this one.
robbaphett 1 year ago
Muito melhor!!!!!!!!!!!!
bcobain2 3 years ago
Wow, I have this concert on video somewhere. it was mostly 'Meantime' material, and pre-Betty tunes. There's a really cool unreleased tune in the middle of the set, don't remember the name, but Helmet did record it. He says Hou-Stone (or stoned) at one point. Great vid!
axgrata 3 years ago
Thanks for the vid. Glad to see folks giving J. Stanier the respect he deserves. Saw numerous helmet shows in the UK thru 94-95. The night before thier first gig in london in 94, happend to see Paige and John drinking beers at this hole in the wall called the cabbage patch. It seemed they were happy to run into another american, and I was guest list bound. Even a year later at another london gig, John searched us out, bummed a bunch of cigs and was late to perform. Very authentic guy.
bcastine1975 4 years ago 2
maker00m , dude you have posted an absolute gem.......what a kick ass version......love it
RetroDaveSteamer 4 years ago
I think this version is much better than that version on Betty.
Helmet222 4 years ago
I saw them at the 9:30 Club in Washington DC this same tour. My glasses fell off in the mosh pit and were instantly destroyed.
jjmckenna 4 years ago
lmmfao, man i "instantly" starting chuckling when I read your comment.. lol
Gotta love me some helmet
OscarBubb 3 years ago
I like this version, too. Thank you very much for posting these great videos!
teddyschuh 4 years ago
page hamilton is more of helmet than john stanier, don't be stupid
airbagabe 4 years ago 4
John Stanier, man! I´ve heard he´s teaching at a jazz-university in N.Y nowadays... Is that true? Helmet is the greatest. "Size Matters" disappointed me, but man, when "Monochrome" was released it totally kicked ass! Sounded more like a mix between "Strap It On" and "Size Matters". I LOVE Helmet.
Floskeknosk 4 years ago
yeah but he kicks ass in tomahawk
insurgentstain 4 years ago
... and in Battles, and The Mark Of Cain, and in [insert random band here]....
maker00m 4 years ago
@maker00m He sucks in Battles
airbagabe 9 months ago
john stanier made helmet... i hate the new incarnation..its like blasphemy...
ancestron 4 years ago
ahhh man, i wish it'd keep going all the way through fbla II, lol. nice video.
xedih 4 years ago
FBLAII is quite a regular on any concert before the Aftertaste tour, so I didn't feel the need to post, but maybe I'll do once I'm through the more rare stuff. Did I mention I love FBLAII?
maker00m 4 years ago
listening to this makes me wanna "strap it on" and give it to "betty" yeeeeaaaah!
pitubaby76 4 years ago
Yeah, that was in re: the album version. It was a recent interview where he was reminiscing, and he said he couldn't believe they could play that without a click track.
helmetcase 5 years ago
I think the lead riff from that song is very hard to play, Page has said the album version was quite difficult to play well live. So they probably changed it for that reason.
helmetcase 5 years ago
That's interesting, where/when did Page say that?
I think you're speaking of the verse riff from the album version? Cause it really takes a lot of practicing before one can play that one right.
The main (chorus) riff that is also played in this '93 version all the time is easy as hell, on the other hand. It's just 0/3-0/444 on the 4th-6th string over and over again :) .
maker00m 5 years ago
Not sure why they changed it, but I can say that in Seattle a few weeks back someone yelled up for Vaccination (to play of course) and he caught the comment and made a funny comment about "no way -- too hard". I think he also made the comment about Street Crab but he did play the intro to it.
andersbrown 3 years ago
Not quite as good as the album version, but that's to be expected as it's one of Helmet's top five ever.
Interesting clip, thank you for posting it.
cecilparks 5 years ago
that was some boring shit, good job
sk8inmayhem 5 years ago
is it just me or does this comment not make any sense at all?
maker00m 5 years ago
Thanks, I posted early versions of Thick, I Know and Milquetoast, too, just look a bit around and enjoy!
maker00m 5 years ago
excellent. post more!
shibby3030 5 years ago
Helmut! Helmut! He- SHIT! Helmet! Helmet! Helmet!
adelmanjaro 5 years ago
agreed, its awsome!
batchy92 5 years ago
So different from the album version. But just as good.
jweb2 5 years ago