I feel that way too, and I think it's a good thing. It means I can view society from the outside and analyse it rationally without feeling I should be involved or have any bias. I think it's helped create some wisdom in me.
It can be both a handicap and an advantage. i know that sounds like a cop out, but let me put it in terms of my experience. I have trouble empathizing with some people, even friends and a lot of things others do do not make sense to me, or I have to struggle to understand. this can make it difficult to live in a world that is so dependent on social interactions. But, since i am independent from these sorts of feelings, I can think in a way not eveyone else can and I feel more of my life depende
If you live in a country like mine, every where you go people are more interested in fitting in at every opportunity for fear of being considered a tall poppy. in New Zealand, people tend to frown upon others who "go at it alone" because it appears arrogant or snobby. But yeah, I agree that it's important to think for yourself even if it means being alienated by the sheep of society.
Hey TJ. My answer to your question is yes. As for whether I view it as a handicap or advantage. I think the answer is both. It's an advantage because I'm more likely to think clearly when I'm with a group of people but it's a disadvantage in the sense that I'll always wonder if there's something I'm missing.
Mob mentality disgusts me. It thrives off of the false assumptions of unity and individuality (ironic, isn't it?) that is the downfall of every American. Therefore, I see an emotional detachment as being an advantage over the mob. The splendor of social interaction is primitive, and therefore, boggles the mind. With isolation comes introspection, therefore, with social detachment comes social inspection. Free thinkers are born from detachment.
I feel that it can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. Sometimes I wonder whether I could ever be religious again. I don't think I could. But what if all the evidence turns out to point in the direction of say, Christianity? Could I believe it then? I hope so, because I'm just in the buisness of finding out what's true.
I am immune to these feeling. I view it as an advantage. I like to make decisions for myself. I think I may believe in God but my belief isn't exactly strong because I understand that nobody can really know the truth about things like religion till they have died. I have always viewed religion as something very personal. I don't tend to have my views moulded by others. I try to work things out myself. If I am surrounded by people that I love or respect my emotions may change but my beliefs stay.
I experience these "go with the group" incentives but I move past them in the name of social progress and the spread of intelligence despite the fact I sometimes enjoy it, but I enjoy helping the next generation more.
--part 2-- What I can say though is that I do not perceive it as any particular advantage or disadvantage (though I did of course have moments in which I feeled differently, either wishing to have that mob sense or being glad that I don't), because I don't really have a comparison. I don't know what i really feels like to immerse in a crowd. That's also why I'm saying that I'm not sure that my experience is really any different from that of others, though I imagine it is judging by their actions
I am not much of a group person myself, though I don't know if I can safely say that I am actually "immune" to group feeling. What I do know is that I usually don't enjoy group activities, and that on the rare occasions I find myself in crowds my level of self awareness rather rises than lowers. If this is a natural or acquired trait of mine I can't tell, and I obviously can't tell if what I feel is truly different from others. --continued--
I guess I have been sort of a loner, and now I am more of a loner than I was before. I never really get the notion of "Its a lot more fun with a great mass of people, than just two or three!" I have never really felt that I am connected to groups of people either. I enjoy seeing people from time to time, but more occasionaly. As for God, I have never believed, counting from when I was old enough to understand the concept, Ive never cared until recently.
Haha exactly the same happens to me, well it is an advantage since it forms an unique mentality with more content than the general population, a critical view and a reflexive way of understanding things, but it screws you over when you are not drunk in parties.
To my parents, I've always been more of a leader than a follower, but to myself, I've always been more of a loner than someone who participates in group-think. I grew up Catholic, and I moved through the Masses with ease due to my memory, but I would never really be moved to any sort of emotional breakdown. I've seen it as an advantage because it's easier to look in to different groups, but it is also a parasite that plagues my biological urges, if you catch what I mean.
I have always been a kind of loner, so I never really experienced collective mentality too often. I find it to be a handicap, because I never (and might never) experienced the warmth and comfort of the unity of a group.
I definitely know the feeling. I see it as mostly an advantage, though something of a disadvantage for a variety of reasons I don't have space to explain.
One reason though is that it is difficult for a person removed from group-think to engage group think in a new direction. In other words, realizations I have about society are incredibly difficult to explain to those who are engaged in a particular group-think orgy that I am not privy to and which may even be opposed to my idea. It is thus
Thank you sir, you have pointed out something I felt my whole life but never knew what it was, to answer your question I feel as if I was immune to those sorts of feelings. I'm an actor and I've been part of many casts and never felt as if there was some energy binding us together as others felt, but I just thought of it as hey a bunch of talented guys doing something awesome and then we moved are separate ways. I think of is as an advantage in that I was myself and did what I wanted to.
@BakuhatsuDave And I had never had to worry about peer pressure which I guess is an advantage, and I did the things I thought were constructive, or just fun for me, or just not plain stupid. I felt myself unlike others or others with a mob mentality could do the things they think are most themselves that could inspire others, and could be remembered for their actions and those actions are originally 'them' and will be remembered for those actions.
I don't think it bothers me either way. I am an athiest, but I am a diehard SF Giants fan. I grw up rooting for them, when we won the WS in 2010, it was one of the greatest moments in my life, and definitely the greatest of my sports fan life. I can be a fan of my team AND not believe in God, it just doesn't affect me either way.
you have way over thought the idea of getting drunk and wearing a dress.
but yeah, it isn't hard to feel alone surrounded by thousands of people. but that has nothing to do with a "collective". and it would be way different if you were from new orleans, were a fan, and witnessed years of humiliation. you have to be connected by the roots.
but still, living and dying by a sports team is something most people should outgrow.
i get it... you are an outsider. damn bro, get some therapy. You give God and groups events the power they have over you. It has nothing to do with them or God, and everything to do with you. Your need to be an outsider probably has to do with an early childhood incident that is now forgotten but had the effect of shaping your character in the way you now violently express on youtube.
QOTD: I am immune from this. My question is, is that immunity what makes me an antisocial. So when you think about it you doesn't that mean an antisocial is more likely to become an atheist.
QOTD: I really think it depends on the venue. If it's a concert, I blend with other people's feelings. However, if it's some political rally, I cannot. I view this as an advantage, because it allows me to view both sides' opinions objectively, and honestly. It allows me to not fall victim to any propaganda from either side, even the one I support.
Well, with all the other comments on this subject, I am almost certain that mine does not count, but I feel that I am immune from those feelings, but unlike a lot of my friends and family, (whom see this as a handicap, I must say that I can only partially agree with them. Some times I wish I could join in the feelings that they have when the team they root for is winning the super bowl, but then on the other hand, I am glad that I do not have these feelings because I can remain impartial.
QOTD: Yes I think I am immune from the, as you put it, chemical reaction associated with group think. I find this as a advantage because I can remain independent from other men.
My terror in the face of others, in light of 'groups' makes me not immune to their frenzy-- but to their glee. I cannot fathom gleaning positive emotions from such single-mindedness & physical closeness with people-- whether I agree with their ideology or not. This is a hinderance, not on the level of being immune to the throws of passion in a group setting, but in light of the fact that I cannot function within a group on that level. Unlike most, when mentally taxed I grow fearful not 'grouped'
I guess it's both good and bad. I personally enjoy the exhilaration which comes from joining in with a group to celebrate something or cheer for your team (referring to football or soccer as you'd call it (which you hate but w/e)) however lacking the "mob mentality" keeps you safe from doing stupid shit while in a group.
I was 100% straight pure texas beef until I saw you wearing that dress, then suddenly I was swept away by strange, new feelings of, kinda, repulsion and nausea.
But seriously, 'yes', the mob has no mind, and I cannot switch off and succumb to it. That is mostly good. Eg, air-punching and grunting 'U...S...A, U...S...A'? I'd rather die than be one of those in-bred sheep. But it does leave me side-lined from some things. A questioning observer more than a high-kicking carnival dancer.
Yes! I to recognize a certain sense of familiarity listening to your reasoning, much like the reading of Albert Camus famous novel. The Stranger exhibiting mild autistic traits somewhat enhanced by the alienation caused by unwillingly observing the crowd, propelling the ever conscious mind into questioning the very web of existence;)
yes i do and i do not feel as if it is a handicap because i dont feel the joy or pleasure of being part of a group because i am beyond that i totally agree with you tj
I feel your feelings, and that is I never feel part of a collective. I never get lost in the moment, nor do I share euphoric elation with those around me for a sole event.
you are correct in saying this is a religious experience and I too am an atheist. Also I don't consider it a handicap, I consider it a personal blessing.
I like knowing I can still think on my own and consider my own actions, and won't get 'lost in the crowd' because the masses deem it necessary.
I have been to a fair amount of concerts and i can say i felt the music but ive never felt what everyone else seems to. i guess the oneness of everyone. i still felt that i am me and they are them, if that makes any sence. concerning wether or not its a handicap id have to make an analogy to the sence of smell. Without it youll never have to smell a skunk or dogshit, but youd never get to enjoy the smell of cinniman rolls, or bacon.
@fishtankbank I've never felt like I was "one" with the other people at a concert either. Mainly because of the muscle bound, shirtless douches with spiky crew cuts who plague all rock/metal shows.
Other than those dudes though it does feel pretty cool to be surrounded by a few thousand like-minded people, even if only for 3 hours or so.
I detest the mob mentality. I think it is responsible for pretty much all of the violence in humanity. This (the mob mentality) is the realm of the group dysphemisms et al cognitive distortions, delightfully blended with a diminished iq as the prefrontal cortex and the forelobes loose blood to the limbic system. a conservative is born.
i dont know. i just am, cause all i want to do is learn and go on with my life without harm, or making harm to another person. if there is a god, i don not care.
I've always felt immune to crowd mentality and feelings but I'd never really thought too much about it until watching this. I think, depending on the situation, it is both a handicap and an advantage, you cannot be completely influenced into something you wouldn't normally feel or do but you also cannot feel the rush of happiness when people are cheering or celebrating around you.
i feel that way about everything except for music, like being in a band and going to rock concerts and whatnot so i guess i do feel that way, but only about music.
I am immune to these sorts of feeling and i see them as a handicap because u cant feel as strong about random bullshit like they do and they get so happy over stuff like winning a game wich I dont see as something to be happy over, u werent in the team... why do you care?
Hmmm.... I never thought of it like that. I always assumed that my displacement in a crowd was because I am just an anti-social person. Now, I see why I am displaced in this world, my lack of coherence to the norms set out before me by society. Well, all I really have to say is fuck the norms.
We're social animals. Our cities are nothing more than very complex bee hives. A man can't stand alone because he goes mentally inane- that's very well documented and understood. We depend on contact with our fellow man for survival. Surviving isn't only about feeding yourself, it's also about human to human interface. And you don't need to be a part of a large group to feel euphoria. Individuality is a figment of your imagination. -IMO
There are times when I succumb to the mod mentality, when I got the movies, when I'm in a play, when I play with a band. But I try to be very aware of the circumstances and know exactly what I'm surrendering to. Usually it's an artificial event, an entertainment of some kind.
The few times I've been to rallies, protests, I've gone with a sense of Zeal but lost that feeling when I got there and saw my fellow protesters acting like jackasses.
maybe it has to do with you being more of a subjective person, even though you are present in the mob, you cannot loose yourself in it because your objectifying it, you're the judge of your environment, dissecting it, looking at it as an alienated individual. Its both a handicap and advantage because for one, you're missing on these mundane life experiences that help the regular guy forget his absurdity of human existence...
Amazing Atheist please! make a video on existentialism
Anyway, indeed, I don't fit with the herd mentality. I see it as a strength, but you know, once in a job interview I was asked "I am happy in a large crowd. Strongly agree, agree, etc, .... strongly disagree". I said "strongly disagree". And I didn't get the job. I think others think of it as a weakness in me, and therefore penalize me for it, and so in that, it is a weakness. Members of the herd think those unlike them are inferior in other words.
there was some social experiment once, where 5 paid actors and a genuine subject were in a room together and asked to answer simple questions, usually picking out which line was the longest in a picture. The paid actors would mysteriously get them wrong, and surprisingly often, the subject would agree with their stupid answers just for the sake of agreeing with them. Me however, I would be far more likely to point my fingers and laugh and say "you stupid dumbasses, you can't even answer THAT???"
I'll admit most religious people look at it as u put it but not me. For me I just look at it as my answer/theory to an unsolvable question. "Howd the universe and life on earth come into existence? It was created I guess" is my opinion in a nutshell. I dont consider myself religous. Just spiritual. I believe there is more to life than what we experience. More going on then what we are capable of realizing. U dont have to like the affect religion has on society but to me all it is a theory
This is awesome, and I like your balanced way of presentation. I'm an atheist with no group mentality whatsoever myself (it runs down in the family). And to answer your question - I feel my lack of mob mentality allows me to remain in control more, and prevents me from being (ab)used by others - so of course I view it as an advantage, even though it means I will never feel the rapture of the mass celebration of my country's sports successes.
I think if I had been able to feel that feeling I would still be christian. I never did so when the evidence didn't stack up I had no reason not to leave Christianity. My friend did feel that connection and he is still a christian to this day. Even now when I look at people who go larping or do anime cosplay I saw to myself "I'm a fan, but I'm not THAT nerdy!" while at the same time I envy what that must feel like. To not only be in a group but to be that excited about anything.
I do not an never have feel any kind of conection to A group
I beleive in idervidualism an logic over comfirmity an tradition or group thought or adopting that thought because it belong's the the comunity or socitity that find my self confined to
It could also be said I veiw my hatred an deconect from the moral majority or from any group of pepole evidence over my superiority.
to tell the truth, I've never been part of anything for that matter, I don't like sports, social meetings, put me in a state of akwardness, I don't really enjoy being in a concert, even if my favourite metal band is playing my favourite song, it's like I'm wishing for everyone in the mob to shut the fuck up and let me enjoy the song. I'm a loner, it kinda suks... but in the positive side... I can create independent thought and question things that the regular people wouldn't dare to.
What a most interesting query, I must say. While I am not immune to the "mob mentality," I am more reserved than most among my circle of friends. I do understand and feel the so-called "euphoria" that one experiences in this setting, and it sometimes requires active thought to keep myself from getting sucked in, but sometimes it doesn't. I see it as a vulnerability if I find myself unable to get myself away from negative mentality, but it has led to some of the best times with my friends. Thanks
There is no me and there is no you. The "self" is a phenomenal construct completely dependent on brain functioning. It is a mental representation that arises from patterns of neurological activity. It may disintegrate during sleep and many other circumstances. Thus, I see no one and I do not see "myself".
as someone who suffers from mild anxiety mostly resolving in panic attacks in crowd situations i can totally relate to not feeling as part of a whole in a group situation, i will say that it has taken me a lot of work in my life time to learn how to deal with it but in my learnings i feel its helped me explore who i am and not only that i also feel that im better at small social situations because of it. ive learned to narrow large groups into groups the size i can handle and feel comfortable in
I always hated the motion songs they made us sing in Sunday school - not because I hated the religion, cause I didn't - but because I hated the idea of doing silly motions just for the sake of doing silly motions. And I *really* hated it when people would get prizes for doing silly motions the silliest. In our kindergarten graduation I consciously refused to do the motions for our class speach. I was like the blue eagle in the Muppets. But I wouldn't say I'm immune to collective sentiments.
I've always liked a rousing tune. I used to make a good Christian and a good patriot. I have a hard time feeling surges of Christian or patriotic sentiment now, not because I'm immune to surges of contageous feelings, but because I'm estranged from conventional religion and patriotism. If there were a religion that stood for everything I stand for, I'd probably convert to it in a heartbeat, loudly sing all its hymns, proselytize daily for it, and become one of its leading pastors.
actually I always feel pretty uncomfortable in the middle of big groups(~30+) no matter if I am related to their feelings or not, so if their is such a joy of group think in me it would be covered by this uneasiness -> I cant tell if thats in me or not
I've never felt that feeling. I could never understand why anyone would like a certain sports team solely because he's from that particular area. I myself have never been into sports, but if I was, my favorite teams would be named after things that I relate to, such as pirates or cats.
It annoys me whenever someone yells excitedly whenever his team wins. And it angers me that he would side with someone simply because he's from the same place that the team is in. Have some fucking individuality.
I am 100% unable to feel that feeling, I hate concerts because I cant hear the music over the screaming, the jumping the partiers, I dont like to go to sports games, I dont care for any of that stuff and I consider it an advantage and a handicap for a bunch of reasons I dont feel like really explaining, it's a mixed bag, on one hand I dont have to be victim to an out of control mobs mentality and on the other I also cant feel the pleasure of it.
I think it can be a handicap because it can rob you of happiness. I myself tend to be indifferent towards allot things in secular society and I have a very hard time "getting into it" as far as drunken loud fun and obnoxiousness. It become depressing and I sometimes wish I had the more lively spirit of someone who can easily have fun. I think its one of the things that made me search for God more, rather than the opposite like this video claims
So it's a handicap if I don't like being a part of what everyone else is doing? Hm, I never realized how sick I was; could you recommend a doctor please? Oh, I'm allergic to gods and spiritual beings so I will be needing to see a real doctor, the kind that earned their degree...
I think it's an advantage. Being blinded by society may be easy in the short term, but later in life you'll look back on all the wasted time and lack of intellectual discipline and BAM
I really like the way that you described what God is in this video and how people reflect to one another. Like you, I understand the interdependence to rely off of the group.
But for me specifically, I am a person who prefers to be alone. I have always been a person whom is more likely to hide away, and want to be away more then being with others.
and this has been the challenge of my life, to find a balance between them and me.
In terms of religion, yes, I'd say I'm immune. In terms of this thing they call "patriotism", not really. I mean, I don't even know the anthem by heart, but will sure stand for my land to the end. Go figure.
I would say that I am also cut off from feeling connected to groups or crowds. I enjoy it because it stops me from acting like a jackass in public, but also sometimes wish that I could overlook my inability to join so I could potentially experience the "fun" they seem to have.
I don't think I'm immune per se, I just think I'm so deeply in the habit that I might as well be immune. I naturally distrust feelings like this, as I think you do as well.
It's both a curse and a blessing: it prevents you from experiencing certain kinds of bliss, but it also keeps you from being conned or duped in certain ways. The same seems to be true of most of the traits and modes of thinking that we acquire as we grow and mature.
Yes, I feel the same way. I find it difficult to get lost in it and just be part of the crowd. I feel detatched and somewhat apathetic towards it. I think it's more of a handicap than an advantage. In a lot of ways to have independent feelings is a good thing, but I expect that it's more enjoyable to feel like a part of a larger thing than to just stand alone.
since i was agreeing with everything you said in this video, yes i am immune to these feeling and i think its an advantage because i get to live as i want to and not have to do things the way others tell me too, i know whats right and whats wrong so im not saying i just do what ever i want..but im not confined to the restraints of other peoples moral values!
i think im immune too. i agree with mameliwo that intelligent people have this problem in relating with other people in such a way. I dont carea bout what people think of me, cause, i know what i really am. It is a advantage, you dont depend on other people, and, you are just superior, you see how stupid most people are...but it is a handicap too...because you know it will be hard to find someone like you...
I think it has to do with your level of intelligence in general. Most people with high intelligence have a difficult time connecting on a deep level with other people. I don't feel like I have ever been on the same level with anyone I have ever known, and there is always that undercurrent of feeling like I don't really know them at all.
i think im immune. Thats why i dont give a crap that everyone thinks i am a weirdo. I like what I like and a majority or minority does not influence my personal opinions. advantage.
That's how you felt at the parade, & that's how I felt every day I went to school or work. It's like walking through a dream you have no control over & wondering if you're the only real person there.
I suppose it is a handicap, one interviewers catch immidiately, for I am apparently too socialy akward for most people to be willing to hire. Then egain, the idea of working with strangers under some rich guy who thinks he's better than us all never appealed to me as sane.
for me it depends if I agree with what the "group think" is standing for. If it's the pledge of allegiance, than of course I'm not going to stand or do anything because I fundamentally disagree with "pledging my allegiance" to the bourgeois state. But when it comes to workers' struggles or Marxist related meetings.. It depends on the content.
If I were to go to a football rally, I never watch football and am completely disconnected from it, so obviously I wouldn't emotionally connect with it.
This is an advantage by all means! It enables one to view life from "outside of the box". I guess that's why I've become an activist for The Zeitgeist Movement.
but I see it as a disadvantage the hive mind by not be as prone to genius ideas or ball tingling insight but they get stuff done, babies done, buildings , done , buy lots of shit done. , and support each other in ways that an individual just can't match .
In response to your question at the end of this video, I feel completely the same way. The same thing happens at parties and dances when everyone is jumping and dancing and all that shit. It's fun, but it feels like I'm missing out on something, because I can tell there are people having a lot more fun then I am. Maybe I'm too much of a pessimist or maybe I really do see the world for what it is. I don't really know, is ignorance bliss? What do you guys think? I'm lost to be honest.
TJ - Yes, absolutely. I know exactly what you mean.
Do I see it as an advantage or disadvantage? Well, both.
On one hand, I will always be slightly outside of everyone. Given that I'm an emotional creature, and artist, sometimes this makes me feel isolated, even though I am very "outgoing."
On the other, I experience a level of intellectual freedom that many others do not. It is not necessarily comforting tome, but it does allow me to grow in directions that these people never will.
personally i view it as an advantage i live in Mississippi were being a liberal atheist as myself is frowned upon highly. but i feel better not conforming with all of them it helps me feel like i am the only me
I think it would be interesting to hear your views on people who believe themselves "Otherkin", as you are Atheist. If you would, please make a video when you have the time.
I know your stance. I just went to a concert with some friends, and instead of chanting and dancing along with them, I found myself standing still and simply enjoying the music. I couldn't feel the powerful energy they were filled to the brim with.
I also have been [rofessionally diagnosed with Asperger's, and I cannot join the mob, no matter how hard I try. I do not suffer when the mob suffers, like when the school quarterback died in a drunk driving accident. ( I found it funny.) I also do not celebrate with the crowd, though: my experience in the social realm is kind of boring, all neutral and grey. I'd probably consider it a net disadvantage: after all, it doesn't matter if you're right in your emotions, only that you enjoy them.
I'm immune this feeling, too. The reason I ever pledged or ever spoke/sang writings including the praise of god in school was because at those times I thought I was suppose like everyone else as if it were an obligation (since at least back in middle school they would expect you to participate, whether you wanted to or not), which is why I think it should be made illegal to obligate ANY form of praise to ANY god in all public schools in the US.
I would say that not being caught up in the mob to be a major advantage. For leaders and thinkers.
The whole evolutionary purpose of the mob mentality is to unite the tribe against all comers. Tribes that could not blindly unite without delay against threats were at a disadvantage.
However this is at the cost of rational thought.
Thus while the mob is helpful, it is useless unless there is someone who has charisma, smarts, & immunity to the mob.
when I was younger I cared more but now later in life I find myself feeling pretty immune from it for most things.
I can't put it into a black and white category of handicap vs advantage...in some cases it is a handicap and in others it is an advantage.
I'd say it is a handicap if you can't enjoy things others enjoy, like sporting events or concerts, but it is an advantage if you can feel detached from stuff like politics or funerals.
i personaly think i am and i veiw them as an advantage because things such as life questions can be seen and possibly decided more cleary than as to being blinded by the beliefs of others
i don't care for mob mentality it usually spawns bad results being immune to that sounds like a good thing to me. but you should keep in mind that being a part of something that is bigger then you is a natural human want. and i am sure that to some extent you do have a mob mentality just on a smaller scale.
I liked the idea of the question at the end but felt it didn't quite fit, what with using "immune". I feel these things, and imagine that everyone does or will at some time. It's what we take away from the feelings that's more important that if we feel them or not. I really love having deep emotional connections, but don't feel the need to call them divinely ordained or as coming from anywhere but myself.
Watching that,I felt like I was having an acid flashback and I was talking to myself. Well done! I know the feeling about needing a reason to dress up like a lady. The WBC is coming to my neck of the woods to protest in front of the Naval base I used to be stationed at. Somebody might be getting sprinkled with fairy dust...haha
> Do you feel as though you too are immune from these sorts of feelings?
Yes.
> Do you view this as a handicap or an advantage?
As an adult, I view it as an advantage. As a teenager I often felt it was a handicap, as I wondered why I couldn't get as ecstatic as my friends were about New Year's Eve.
I think being detached from social groups in the way you describe is something of an advantage. I have to admit i feel something to this extent. I think it allows me to take a step back and view a situation or a system as it is. Not viewing yourself as a part of the clockwork machine that is our society allows one to see how things really work within the system that they are a part of. People who can't do this end up blinded by ignorance of what is around them, or right in front of their faces.
I suppose I feel some feeling to some extent, but it's not excitement, as much as it is anxiety, annoyance, and disgust, due to a learned misanthropy I have towards my fellow man, and yet, this feeling only persists until I take action in some way that brings me into this mob mentality, usually through dancing or some such act, but it's more odd that I'm having to decide to act on it, than simply be drawn into it like some others. All in all, I view this as an advantage, being detached.
I think you've expressed what everyone thinks when in a "mob".
You're there for the spectacle and comradery. You're there to support or you're there just observe. You're there because your friends are there and there's nothing better to do at the time.
And when it comes right down to it, I don't think anyone feels anything other than "I hope I see something that makes coming here worth while."
An advantage
N64isgreat 1 day ago
definitely an advantage.
PoisonousJaws 5 days ago
I'm just like you, makes me rather sad though, I'd like to be part of something bigger, but meh, what can ya do.
name8895 5 days ago
That's the reason I don't like going to clubs or discos,apart from the fact that I hate crowded places.
onewhopwns 1 week ago
I feel the same, but it's nether a handicap nor an advantage.
There are benefits to going at life solo, and there are benefits to existing within a pack.
ProblmSolvd 1 week ago
All too well! I've never had more than really one close friend at a time if that's any indication. I hate mobs
Dogrunningwild 1 week ago
I feel that way too, and I think it's a good thing. It means I can view society from the outside and analyse it rationally without feeling I should be involved or have any bias. I think it's helped create some wisdom in me.
scrustle 2 weeks ago
yes, and its an advantage
JDAnarchy666 1 month ago
Well Im pretty sure most of us dont relate that well to crossdresser mobs it is nothing to be upset about.
Induktio1984 2 months ago
It can be both a handicap and an advantage. i know that sounds like a cop out, but let me put it in terms of my experience. I have trouble empathizing with some people, even friends and a lot of things others do do not make sense to me, or I have to struggle to understand. this can make it difficult to live in a world that is so dependent on social interactions. But, since i am independent from these sorts of feelings, I can think in a way not eveyone else can and I feel more of my life depende
eartianwerewolf 3 months ago
My friends always tell me that I seem to be unable to be empathetic and part of a group. I view this as an advantage.
ArsonistInUrFirewall 3 months ago
I just hate football because it crowds streets and can cause fights. Nothing wrong with that, now is there?
SilaconYT 3 months ago
i can join a group if i so choose although generally i dont. the only time i do this is at concerts when im in the mosh pit.
jonnychristII 3 months ago
If you live in a country like mine, every where you go people are more interested in fitting in at every opportunity for fear of being considered a tall poppy. in New Zealand, people tend to frown upon others who "go at it alone" because it appears arrogant or snobby. But yeah, I agree that it's important to think for yourself even if it means being alienated by the sheep of society.
whymenogood 3 months ago
@whymenogood that is anywhere, so do not feel bad about it.
NoLifeTehRs 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAmazingAtheist
Hey TJ. My answer to your question is yes. As for whether I view it as a handicap or advantage. I think the answer is both. It's an advantage because I'm more likely to think clearly when I'm with a group of people but it's a disadvantage in the sense that I'll always wonder if there's something I'm missing.
MegaBeamish 3 months ago
Want to, but can't.
2timmy4u 3 months ago
Mob mentality disgusts me. It thrives off of the false assumptions of unity and individuality (ironic, isn't it?) that is the downfall of every American. Therefore, I see an emotional detachment as being an advantage over the mob. The splendor of social interaction is primitive, and therefore, boggles the mind. With isolation comes introspection, therefore, with social detachment comes social inspection. Free thinkers are born from detachment.
Selfawaresubject 4 months ago
I feel that it can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. Sometimes I wonder whether I could ever be religious again. I don't think I could. But what if all the evidence turns out to point in the direction of say, Christianity? Could I believe it then? I hope so, because I'm just in the buisness of finding out what's true.
Nerd0042 4 months ago
I'm immune, and I see it as both an advantage and a disadvantage.
ParaSpite 5 months ago
@ParaSpite same with me ^-^
deadbabyfromspace 4 months ago
I am immune to these feeling. I view it as an advantage. I like to make decisions for myself. I think I may believe in God but my belief isn't exactly strong because I understand that nobody can really know the truth about things like religion till they have died. I have always viewed religion as something very personal. I don't tend to have my views moulded by others. I try to work things out myself. If I am surrounded by people that I love or respect my emotions may change but my beliefs stay.
BarbecuedBananas 5 months ago
I am immune to these feelings as well, and i strongly feel it is a advantage.
Krackdown96 5 months ago
I experience these "go with the group" incentives but I move past them in the name of social progress and the spread of intelligence despite the fact I sometimes enjoy it, but I enjoy helping the next generation more.
PenisCupcake 5 months ago
--part 2-- What I can say though is that I do not perceive it as any particular advantage or disadvantage (though I did of course have moments in which I feeled differently, either wishing to have that mob sense or being glad that I don't), because I don't really have a comparison. I don't know what i really feels like to immerse in a crowd. That's also why I'm saying that I'm not sure that my experience is really any different from that of others, though I imagine it is judging by their actions
narutofan9999 5 months ago
I am not much of a group person myself, though I don't know if I can safely say that I am actually "immune" to group feeling. What I do know is that I usually don't enjoy group activities, and that on the rare occasions I find myself in crowds my level of self awareness rather rises than lowers. If this is a natural or acquired trait of mine I can't tell, and I obviously can't tell if what I feel is truly different from others. --continued--
narutofan9999 5 months ago
yes i dont feel anything in groups if i feel anything its just out of place i feel more alone in crowds then when i am actually alone.
azurewrath2224 6 months ago
yes I do. It feels more like an advantage. I am okay with feeling alone in crowds
NovemDecem 6 months ago
I guess I have been sort of a loner, and now I am more of a loner than I was before. I never really get the notion of "Its a lot more fun with a great mass of people, than just two or three!" I have never really felt that I am connected to groups of people either. I enjoy seeing people from time to time, but more occasionaly. As for God, I have never believed, counting from when I was old enough to understand the concept, Ive never cared until recently.
SensualLeopardDesign 6 months ago
Haha exactly the same happens to me, well it is an advantage since it forms an unique mentality with more content than the general population, a critical view and a reflexive way of understanding things, but it screws you over when you are not drunk in parties.
FlaiteOne 6 months ago
To my parents, I've always been more of a leader than a follower, but to myself, I've always been more of a loner than someone who participates in group-think. I grew up Catholic, and I moved through the Masses with ease due to my memory, but I would never really be moved to any sort of emotional breakdown. I've seen it as an advantage because it's easier to look in to different groups, but it is also a parasite that plagues my biological urges, if you catch what I mean.
HeavenlyRa 7 months ago
I have always been a kind of loner, so I never really experienced collective mentality too often. I find it to be a handicap, because I never (and might never) experienced the warmth and comfort of the unity of a group.
GdoubleWB 7 months ago
Wow, I remember this. I was rooting for the Colts, sorry.
LevinFulmine 7 months ago
thus the single greatest retardant of social evolution and progression.
Ihopyourpancakes 8 months ago
I definitely know the feeling. I see it as mostly an advantage, though something of a disadvantage for a variety of reasons I don't have space to explain.
One reason though is that it is difficult for a person removed from group-think to engage group think in a new direction. In other words, realizations I have about society are incredibly difficult to explain to those who are engaged in a particular group-think orgy that I am not privy to and which may even be opposed to my idea. It is thus
Ihopyourpancakes 8 months ago
Total Advantage!
Josiah197 8 months ago
2:11 XD
TheWoodstock2009 8 months ago
Oh, advantage, definitely :)
RaunienTheFirst 8 months ago
Thank you sir, you have pointed out something I felt my whole life but never knew what it was, to answer your question I feel as if I was immune to those sorts of feelings. I'm an actor and I've been part of many casts and never felt as if there was some energy binding us together as others felt, but I just thought of it as hey a bunch of talented guys doing something awesome and then we moved are separate ways. I think of is as an advantage in that I was myself and did what I wanted to.
BakuhatsuDave 8 months ago
@BakuhatsuDave And I had never had to worry about peer pressure which I guess is an advantage, and I did the things I thought were constructive, or just fun for me, or just not plain stupid. I felt myself unlike others or others with a mob mentality could do the things they think are most themselves that could inspire others, and could be remembered for their actions and those actions are originally 'them' and will be remembered for those actions.
BakuhatsuDave 8 months ago
I'd say I'm pretty much immune to those feelings. I'm just the kind of guy who always goes his way, no matter what's going on.
TitanNerd68 8 months ago
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
BassBOY0GIRL 9 months ago
I don't think it bothers me either way. I am an athiest, but I am a diehard SF Giants fan. I grw up rooting for them, when we won the WS in 2010, it was one of the greatest moments in my life, and definitely the greatest of my sports fan life. I can be a fan of my team AND not believe in God, it just doesn't affect me either way.
SFforlife 9 months ago
you have way over thought the idea of getting drunk and wearing a dress.
but yeah, it isn't hard to feel alone surrounded by thousands of people. but that has nothing to do with a "collective". and it would be way different if you were from new orleans, were a fan, and witnessed years of humiliation. you have to be connected by the roots.
but still, living and dying by a sports team is something most people should outgrow.
tomitstube 10 months ago
i get it... you are an outsider. damn bro, get some therapy. You give God and groups events the power they have over you. It has nothing to do with them or God, and everything to do with you. Your need to be an outsider probably has to do with an early childhood incident that is now forgotten but had the effect of shaping your character in the way you now violently express on youtube.
clevername333 10 months ago
QOTD: I am immune from this. My question is, is that immunity what makes me an antisocial. So when you think about it you doesn't that mean an antisocial is more likely to become an atheist.
dogking100 10 months ago
@dogking100 I would consider my self to be an antisocial.
dogking100 10 months ago
what is mob mentality?
happybro1 11 months ago
QOTD: I really think it depends on the venue. If it's a concert, I blend with other people's feelings. However, if it's some political rally, I cannot. I view this as an advantage, because it allows me to view both sides' opinions objectively, and honestly. It allows me to not fall victim to any propaganda from either side, even the one I support.
GhostToast5647 11 months ago
No, I usually get washed up with everyone elses mood in an area like that. But I'm not proud of it.
PatricktheDoody 11 months ago
I feel that way, but I think of it as an advantage.
SinbladeZen 11 months ago
Well, with all the other comments on this subject, I am almost certain that mine does not count, but I feel that I am immune from those feelings, but unlike a lot of my friends and family, (whom see this as a handicap, I must say that I can only partially agree with them. Some times I wish I could join in the feelings that they have when the team they root for is winning the super bowl, but then on the other hand, I am glad that I do not have these feelings because I can remain impartial.
RodneyWiedemer 1 year ago
Yes i do, advantage for sure.
41354N4 1 year ago
I've seen men wear cardigans: that is crossing
Angryification 1 year ago
QOTD: Yes I think I am immune from the, as you put it, chemical reaction associated with group think. I find this as a advantage because I can remain independent from other men.
fromdirttodustpro1 1 year ago
My terror in the face of others, in light of 'groups' makes me not immune to their frenzy-- but to their glee. I cannot fathom gleaning positive emotions from such single-mindedness & physical closeness with people-- whether I agree with their ideology or not. This is a hinderance, not on the level of being immune to the throws of passion in a group setting, but in light of the fact that I cannot function within a group on that level. Unlike most, when mentally taxed I grow fearful not 'grouped'
MechanicalCoupling 1 year ago
I guess it's both good and bad. I personally enjoy the exhilaration which comes from joining in with a group to celebrate something or cheer for your team (referring to football or soccer as you'd call it (which you hate but w/e)) however lacking the "mob mentality" keeps you safe from doing stupid shit while in a group.
frunchzz 1 year ago
I was 100% straight pure texas beef until I saw you wearing that dress, then suddenly I was swept away by strange, new feelings of, kinda, repulsion and nausea.
But seriously, 'yes', the mob has no mind, and I cannot switch off and succumb to it. That is mostly good. Eg, air-punching and grunting 'U...S...A, U...S...A'? I'd rather die than be one of those in-bred sheep. But it does leave me side-lined from some things. A questioning observer more than a high-kicking carnival dancer.
USERNAMEfieldempty 1 year ago
Yes! I to recognize a certain sense of familiarity listening to your reasoning, much like the reading of Albert Camus famous novel. The Stranger exhibiting mild autistic traits somewhat enhanced by the alienation caused by unwillingly observing the crowd, propelling the ever conscious mind into questioning the very web of existence;)
theeggwoman 1 year ago
Yes; advantage.
Aphradonis 1 year ago
god I would never cross dress, I would look sooooo bad >_< as for the actual video, don't care
hornylink 1 year ago
yes i do and i do not feel as if it is a handicap because i dont feel the joy or pleasure of being part of a group because i am beyond that i totally agree with you tj
TheAlmightyWilhelm 1 year ago
Yes, i think It can be both a handicap and an advantage.
SONOrTALON 1 year ago
Just think of it as a party.
RichardSwayne 1 year ago
I feel your feelings, and that is I never feel part of a collective. I never get lost in the moment, nor do I share euphoric elation with those around me for a sole event.
you are correct in saying this is a religious experience and I too am an atheist. Also I don't consider it a handicap, I consider it a personal blessing.
I like knowing I can still think on my own and consider my own actions, and won't get 'lost in the crowd' because the masses deem it necessary.
You are like me - fortunate
xenxander 1 year ago
This reminds me of a quote by Richard Dawkins
But these people here, thousands of people, all have exactly the same delusion; that must give wonderful reinforcement to their faith.
He talked about group solidarity and group like mindedness and how it gives people a "reassurance" of what they are believeing.
In other words, "if other people believe it then its a good thing for me to believe it too"
I'm obsessed with the mind and the psychology behind religion if you can tell...
NoraaXO 1 year ago
I have been to a fair amount of concerts and i can say i felt the music but ive never felt what everyone else seems to. i guess the oneness of everyone. i still felt that i am me and they are them, if that makes any sence. concerning wether or not its a handicap id have to make an analogy to the sence of smell. Without it youll never have to smell a skunk or dogshit, but youd never get to enjoy the smell of cinniman rolls, or bacon.
fishtankbank 1 year ago
@fishtankbank I've never felt like I was "one" with the other people at a concert either. Mainly because of the muscle bound, shirtless douches with spiky crew cuts who plague all rock/metal shows.
Other than those dudes though it does feel pretty cool to be surrounded by a few thousand like-minded people, even if only for 3 hours or so.
RequiemForMyReverie 1 year ago
This is exactly what happened to me in my transition from christian to atheist.
In a way I left the mind numbing conformity of the flock and became detatched emotionally to them. Religion is all about emotions and feelings.
The typical christian "i prayed to the christian god and felt good afterwards and felt a "peace" therefore the christian god must be real.....
I realized god is nothing but a feeling which is then personified.
inoraa 1 year ago
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TheGrumpyCake 1 year ago
hahahahahahaha
fadropblane 1 year ago
Did omar the tent maker make that dress??
uaboob 1 year ago
Heh, looks like fun.
SaintFookinJimmy 1 year ago
I detest the mob mentality. I think it is responsible for pretty much all of the violence in humanity. This (the mob mentality) is the realm of the group dysphemisms et al cognitive distortions, delightfully blended with a diminished iq as the prefrontal cortex and the forelobes loose blood to the limbic system. a conservative is born.
xaq141175 1 year ago
i dont know. i just am, cause all i want to do is learn and go on with my life without harm, or making harm to another person. if there is a god, i don not care.
reidthiss 1 year ago
Suddenly, traps! Thousands of them!
DC200560 1 year ago
Yes I am, but I don't view it as a handicap or an advantage. I have no desire to feel in sink with the mob.
vssia 1 year ago
yes...handicap - i wanna have a fun and crazy and emotional life too
i wish i could have fun at a concert but i dont think i could
luckynumber58 1 year ago
Both. Solitude seems to be good for thinking, and thus truth.
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 1 year ago
Holy crap. If I seen TheAmazingAtheist marching down the street, in a dress or not, I would hae gotten his autograph!
xXLonesomeLyricsXx 1 year ago
I've always felt immune to crowd mentality and feelings but I'd never really thought too much about it until watching this. I think, depending on the situation, it is both a handicap and an advantage, you cannot be completely influenced into something you wouldn't normally feel or do but you also cannot feel the rush of happiness when people are cheering or celebrating around you.
JessTheGeek1 1 year ago
i feel that way about everything except for music, like being in a band and going to rock concerts and whatnot so i guess i do feel that way, but only about music.
a7xisdabest 1 year ago
I am immune to these sorts of feeling and i see them as a handicap because u cant feel as strong about random bullshit like they do and they get so happy over stuff like winning a game wich I dont see as something to be happy over, u werent in the team... why do you care?
ThirnaZs 1 year ago
Hmmm.... I never thought of it like that. I always assumed that my displacement in a crowd was because I am just an anti-social person. Now, I see why I am displaced in this world, my lack of coherence to the norms set out before me by society. Well, all I really have to say is fuck the norms.
DawkinsMoth 1 year ago
hopefully the saints will win, but basketball is a hard game
HowDaWorldTwerks 1 year ago
We're social animals. Our cities are nothing more than very complex bee hives. A man can't stand alone because he goes mentally inane- that's very well documented and understood. We depend on contact with our fellow man for survival. Surviving isn't only about feeding yourself, it's also about human to human interface. And you don't need to be a part of a large group to feel euphoria. Individuality is a figment of your imagination. -IMO
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
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HigherPlanes 1 year ago
they won! :D
Cubarted 1 year ago
Wait what? New Orleans still exists? I thought it sunk to the bottom of the sea. =/
666T3mplar 1 year ago
@666T3mplar Not quite yet, my friend, not quite yet.
TheDeathsRequiem 1 year ago
@666T3mplar
It was wished back with the dragon balls
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 1 year ago
Awesome video.
There are times when I succumb to the mod mentality, when I got the movies, when I'm in a play, when I play with a band. But I try to be very aware of the circumstances and know exactly what I'm surrendering to. Usually it's an artificial event, an entertainment of some kind.
The few times I've been to rallies, protests, I've gone with a sense of Zeal but lost that feeling when I got there and saw my fellow protesters acting like jackasses.
dangerics 1 year ago
maybe it has to do with you being more of a subjective person, even though you are present in the mob, you cannot loose yourself in it because your objectifying it, you're the judge of your environment, dissecting it, looking at it as an alienated individual. Its both a handicap and advantage because for one, you're missing on these mundane life experiences that help the regular guy forget his absurdity of human existence...
Amazing Atheist please! make a video on existentialism
seethishardtube 1 year ago
I thought New Orleans was destroyed in 2005.
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Anyway, indeed, I don't fit with the herd mentality. I see it as a strength, but you know, once in a job interview I was asked "I am happy in a large crowd. Strongly agree, agree, etc, .... strongly disagree". I said "strongly disagree". And I didn't get the job. I think others think of it as a weakness in me, and therefore penalize me for it, and so in that, it is a weakness. Members of the herd think those unlike them are inferior in other words.
medexamtoolsdotcom 1 year ago
there was some social experiment once, where 5 paid actors and a genuine subject were in a room together and asked to answer simple questions, usually picking out which line was the longest in a picture. The paid actors would mysteriously get them wrong, and surprisingly often, the subject would agree with their stupid answers just for the sake of agreeing with them. Me however, I would be far more likely to point my fingers and laugh and say "you stupid dumbasses, you can't even answer THAT???"
medexamtoolsdotcom 1 year ago
Usually I don't get lost in that mob feeling. But sometimes I can, and when I do it's a quick and enjoyable high.
TheLight418 1 year ago
I'll admit most religious people look at it as u put it but not me. For me I just look at it as my answer/theory to an unsolvable question. "Howd the universe and life on earth come into existence? It was created I guess" is my opinion in a nutshell. I dont consider myself religous. Just spiritual. I believe there is more to life than what we experience. More going on then what we are capable of realizing. U dont have to like the affect religion has on society but to me all it is a theory
WrestlingBC02 1 year ago
This is awesome, and I like your balanced way of presentation. I'm an atheist with no group mentality whatsoever myself (it runs down in the family). And to answer your question - I feel my lack of mob mentality allows me to remain in control more, and prevents me from being (ab)used by others - so of course I view it as an advantage, even though it means I will never feel the rapture of the mass celebration of my country's sports successes.
gwendoneth 1 year ago
that gives drag queen a whole new meaning. LOL the sign the dude was holding around 2:16 was funny my nutts are freezing.
ChicagoMusic 1 year ago
I think if I had been able to feel that feeling I would still be christian. I never did so when the evidence didn't stack up I had no reason not to leave Christianity. My friend did feel that connection and he is still a christian to this day. Even now when I look at people who go larping or do anime cosplay I saw to myself "I'm a fan, but I'm not THAT nerdy!" while at the same time I envy what that must feel like. To not only be in a group but to be that excited about anything.
esplin227 1 year ago
I do not an never have feel any kind of conection to A group
I beleive in idervidualism an logic over comfirmity an tradition or group thought or adopting that thought because it belong's the the comunity or socitity that find my self confined to
It could also be said I veiw my hatred an deconect from the moral majority or from any group of pepole evidence over my superiority.
leftwingnazi666 1 year ago
to tell the truth, I've never been part of anything for that matter, I don't like sports, social meetings, put me in a state of akwardness, I don't really enjoy being in a concert, even if my favourite metal band is playing my favourite song, it's like I'm wishing for everyone in the mob to shut the fuck up and let me enjoy the song. I'm a loner, it kinda suks... but in the positive side... I can create independent thought and question things that the regular people wouldn't dare to.
Bikoda 1 year ago
What a most interesting query, I must say. While I am not immune to the "mob mentality," I am more reserved than most among my circle of friends. I do understand and feel the so-called "euphoria" that one experiences in this setting, and it sometimes requires active thought to keep myself from getting sucked in, but sometimes it doesn't. I see it as a vulnerability if I find myself unable to get myself away from negative mentality, but it has led to some of the best times with my friends. Thanks
LoserBTard 1 year ago
There is no me and there is no you. The "self" is a phenomenal construct completely dependent on brain functioning. It is a mental representation that arises from patterns of neurological activity. It may disintegrate during sleep and many other circumstances. Thus, I see no one and I do not see "myself".
CosmicSisyphus 1 year ago
@CosmicSisyphus Well said. I've always thought this way.
komahrii 1 year ago
This was profoundly said...in short when I'm in a crowd I feel like a mindless stupid sheep so I can understand: immune + advantage
Ut0pist 1 year ago
we need more of this!
angiemead12 1 year ago
Feelings of alienation in a large group of humans only confirms my notion of superiority.
ImaginaryGod 1 year ago
@ImaginaryGod
Twho thumbs up for that one
flibben 1 year ago
nice dress
mokanaman 1 year ago
as someone who suffers from mild anxiety mostly resolving in panic attacks in crowd situations i can totally relate to not feeling as part of a whole in a group situation, i will say that it has taken me a lot of work in my life time to learn how to deal with it but in my learnings i feel its helped me explore who i am and not only that i also feel that im better at small social situations because of it. ive learned to narrow large groups into groups the size i can handle and feel comfortable in
delbomb3131 1 year ago
I always hated the motion songs they made us sing in Sunday school - not because I hated the religion, cause I didn't - but because I hated the idea of doing silly motions just for the sake of doing silly motions. And I *really* hated it when people would get prizes for doing silly motions the silliest. In our kindergarten graduation I consciously refused to do the motions for our class speach. I was like the blue eagle in the Muppets. But I wouldn't say I'm immune to collective sentiments.
MstrirSage 1 year ago
I've always liked a rousing tune. I used to make a good Christian and a good patriot. I have a hard time feeling surges of Christian or patriotic sentiment now, not because I'm immune to surges of contageous feelings, but because I'm estranged from conventional religion and patriotism. If there were a religion that stood for everything I stand for, I'd probably convert to it in a heartbeat, loudly sing all its hymns, proselytize daily for it, and become one of its leading pastors.
MstrirSage 1 year ago
actually I always feel pretty uncomfortable in the middle of big groups(~30+) no matter if I am related to their feelings or not, so if their is such a joy of group think in me it would be covered by this uneasiness -> I cant tell if thats in me or not
DeHerg 1 year ago
I've never felt that feeling. I could never understand why anyone would like a certain sports team solely because he's from that particular area. I myself have never been into sports, but if I was, my favorite teams would be named after things that I relate to, such as pirates or cats.
It annoys me whenever someone yells excitedly whenever his team wins. And it angers me that he would side with someone simply because he's from the same place that the team is in. Have some fucking individuality.
Admiralandrian 1 year ago
I am 100% unable to feel that feeling, I hate concerts because I cant hear the music over the screaming, the jumping the partiers, I dont like to go to sports games, I dont care for any of that stuff and I consider it an advantage and a handicap for a bunch of reasons I dont feel like really explaining, it's a mixed bag, on one hand I dont have to be victim to an out of control mobs mentality and on the other I also cant feel the pleasure of it.
Ferix 1 year ago
I think it can be a handicap because it can rob you of happiness. I myself tend to be indifferent towards allot things in secular society and I have a very hard time "getting into it" as far as drunken loud fun and obnoxiousness. It become depressing and I sometimes wish I had the more lively spirit of someone who can easily have fun. I think its one of the things that made me search for God more, rather than the opposite like this video claims
CreedChrist 1 year ago
So it's a handicap if I don't like being a part of what everyone else is doing? Hm, I never realized how sick I was; could you recommend a doctor please? Oh, I'm allergic to gods and spiritual beings so I will be needing to see a real doctor, the kind that earned their degree...
RajekArionShinoda 1 year ago
I think it's an advantage. Being blinded by society may be easy in the short term, but later in life you'll look back on all the wasted time and lack of intellectual discipline and BAM
there's your midlife crisis
andrewh817 1 year ago
I really like the way that you described what God is in this video and how people reflect to one another. Like you, I understand the interdependence to rely off of the group.
But for me specifically, I am a person who prefers to be alone. I have always been a person whom is more likely to hide away, and want to be away more then being with others.
and this has been the challenge of my life, to find a balance between them and me.
As for the question of God?
To be honest, I am not sure.
CheshireShade 1 year ago
In terms of religion, yes, I'd say I'm immune. In terms of this thing they call "patriotism", not really. I mean, I don't even know the anthem by heart, but will sure stand for my land to the end. Go figure.
parahumanoid 1 year ago
I would say that I am also cut off from feeling connected to groups or crowds. I enjoy it because it stops me from acting like a jackass in public, but also sometimes wish that I could overlook my inability to join so I could potentially experience the "fun" they seem to have.
danszafranek 1 year ago
Can we see more of you in a dress?
ShockL0ver 1 year ago
This explained it in ways I yet could not. I too feel immune.
CinDrollic12 1 year ago
I don't think I'm immune per se, I just think I'm so deeply in the habit that I might as well be immune. I naturally distrust feelings like this, as I think you do as well.
It's both a curse and a blessing: it prevents you from experiencing certain kinds of bliss, but it also keeps you from being conned or duped in certain ways. The same seems to be true of most of the traits and modes of thinking that we acquire as we grow and mature.
d00df00d 1 year ago
i like this video. what youre talking about reminds me of the two minutes hate in george orwell's 1984. anyone else agree?
mandaMartini 1 year ago
I don't give a shit. Ignorance is bliss!
xep3haet 1 year ago
Yes, I feel the same way. I find it difficult to get lost in it and just be part of the crowd. I feel detatched and somewhat apathetic towards it. I think it's more of a handicap than an advantage. In a lot of ways to have independent feelings is a good thing, but I expect that it's more enjoyable to feel like a part of a larger thing than to just stand alone.
MCRdynamite 1 year ago
011110, binary for dull... this vid is fail
Budburna420 1 year ago
since i was agreeing with everything you said in this video, yes i am immune to these feeling and i think its an advantage because i get to live as i want to and not have to do things the way others tell me too, i know whats right and whats wrong so im not saying i just do what ever i want..but im not confined to the restraints of other peoples moral values!
MrHeavyMetalx 1 year ago
well im canadian and im proud of it but i HAAATE hockey and i HAATE maple flavored foods...
MrHeavyMetalx 1 year ago
thats awesome!!
MrHeavyMetalx 1 year ago
i think im immune too. i agree with mameliwo that intelligent people have this problem in relating with other people in such a way. I dont carea bout what people think of me, cause, i know what i really am. It is a advantage, you dont depend on other people, and, you are just superior, you see how stupid most people are...but it is a handicap too...because you know it will be hard to find someone like you...
asgardthor123 1 year ago
I think it has to do with your level of intelligence in general. Most people with high intelligence have a difficult time connecting on a deep level with other people. I don't feel like I have ever been on the same level with anyone I have ever known, and there is always that undercurrent of feeling like I don't really know them at all.
mameliwo 1 year ago
i think im immune. Thats why i dont give a crap that everyone thinks i am a weirdo. I like what I like and a majority or minority does not influence my personal opinions. advantage.
Hershizzle 1 year ago
That's how you felt at the parade, & that's how I felt every day I went to school or work. It's like walking through a dream you have no control over & wondering if you're the only real person there.
I suppose it is a handicap, one interviewers catch immidiately, for I am apparently too socialy akward for most people to be willing to hire. Then egain, the idea of working with strangers under some rich guy who thinks he's better than us all never appealed to me as sane.
LikaLaruku 1 year ago
Advantage.
Progressence 1 year ago
i lack that feeling but to me its neither and advantage nor a disadvantage
arechikitsune 1 year ago
thats just faggot like.
DropDeadCouture 1 year ago
for me it depends if I agree with what the "group think" is standing for. If it's the pledge of allegiance, than of course I'm not going to stand or do anything because I fundamentally disagree with "pledging my allegiance" to the bourgeois state. But when it comes to workers' struggles or Marxist related meetings.. It depends on the content.
If I were to go to a football rally, I never watch football and am completely disconnected from it, so obviously I wouldn't emotionally connect with it.
Kasu1917 1 year ago
This is an advantage by all means! It enables one to view life from "outside of the box". I guess that's why I've become an activist for The Zeitgeist Movement.
donekes 1 year ago
I some what feel this not to your extent im sure
but I see it as a disadvantage the hive mind by not be as prone to genius ideas or ball tingling insight but they get stuff done, babies done, buildings , done , buy lots of shit done. , and support each other in ways that an individual just can't match .
PsychedelicSexDream 1 year ago
See, if he had worn a dress in San Fran, he'd have felt, not just the energy, but... Well... more than that. ;)
It feels good, so long as they make sure to do the reach around. That part is important.
affordnoshoes 1 year ago
because i watched this vid and what its titled ...youtube suggests that i should watch other crossdressing videos.
kreeper887 1 year ago
Advantage
mythinktube 1 year ago
WELL TJ DOES APPROVE ANAL FISTING...
hjnsf 1 year ago
In response to your question at the end of this video, I feel completely the same way. The same thing happens at parties and dances when everyone is jumping and dancing and all that shit. It's fun, but it feels like I'm missing out on something, because I can tell there are people having a lot more fun then I am. Maybe I'm too much of a pessimist or maybe I really do see the world for what it is. I don't really know, is ignorance bliss? What do you guys think? I'm lost to be honest.
IdRatherYouDidnt 1 year ago
Hahahahaahahaha!!! "My nuts are freezing." Lmao. XD
ckyhunkameat 1 year ago
TJ - Yes, absolutely. I know exactly what you mean.
Do I see it as an advantage or disadvantage? Well, both.
On one hand, I will always be slightly outside of everyone. Given that I'm an emotional creature, and artist, sometimes this makes me feel isolated, even though I am very "outgoing."
On the other, I experience a level of intellectual freedom that many others do not. It is not necessarily comforting tome, but it does allow me to grow in directions that these people never will.
GonzoNomad 1 year ago
Same here. Btw, mob on this video disgust me...
IVomitOnYourGod 1 year ago
personally i view it as an advantage i live in Mississippi were being a liberal atheist as myself is frowned upon highly. but i feel better not conforming with all of them it helps me feel like i am the only me
jewswithhammers 1 year ago
I think it would be interesting to hear your views on people who believe themselves "Otherkin", as you are Atheist. If you would, please make a video when you have the time.
Thank you,
Lindela
8lindela 1 year ago
I know your stance. I just went to a concert with some friends, and instead of chanting and dancing along with them, I found myself standing still and simply enjoying the music. I couldn't feel the powerful energy they were filled to the brim with.
tomtom0919 1 year ago
I also have been [rofessionally diagnosed with Asperger's, and I cannot join the mob, no matter how hard I try. I do not suffer when the mob suffers, like when the school quarterback died in a drunk driving accident. ( I found it funny.) I also do not celebrate with the crowd, though: my experience in the social realm is kind of boring, all neutral and grey. I'd probably consider it a net disadvantage: after all, it doesn't matter if you're right in your emotions, only that you enjoy them.
MajikkaniHand 1 year ago
I'm immune this feeling, too. The reason I ever pledged or ever spoke/sang writings including the praise of god in school was because at those times I thought I was suppose like everyone else as if it were an obligation (since at least back in middle school they would expect you to participate, whether you wanted to or not), which is why I think it should be made illegal to obligate ANY form of praise to ANY god in all public schools in the US.
IThinkBeyond 1 year ago
@IThinkBeyond
It IS illegal to obligate such things...
not just based on freedom of religion, but also freedom of speech.
The school cannot legally force you to participate.
In 5th grade I refused to perform a gospel song for music class. When they threatened me by telling me they would dock my grade or hold me back.
I called their bluff, and when they pressed the matter, I reported them to my parents who threatened legal action.
(As a side note I also refused to do the chicken dance :P)
Kieselmeister 1 year ago
While I'm personally quite smart, & I consider myself an individualist.
I also have Asperger's, so my ability to navigate social groups in real time is rather poor.
The best analogy I can think of is a "normal human" emulator running in my head every time I interact w/ people.
So my individuality might just be an effect of the processing lag.
(b4 anyone flames, it's not self diagnosed. I've had paperwork to back it up for over 16y. Had to wade through an 18h psych eval 4y ago to update it)
Kieselmeister 1 year ago
I would say that not being caught up in the mob to be a major advantage. For leaders and thinkers.
The whole evolutionary purpose of the mob mentality is to unite the tribe against all comers. Tribes that could not blindly unite without delay against threats were at a disadvantage.
However this is at the cost of rational thought.
Thus while the mob is helpful, it is useless unless there is someone who has charisma, smarts, & immunity to the mob.
lose any of the 3, and the whole topples.
Kieselmeister 1 year ago
unfortunately TAA is not hot in a dress. but Nykytine2 is.
enigmatically 1 year ago
when I was younger I cared more but now later in life I find myself feeling pretty immune from it for most things.
I can't put it into a black and white category of handicap vs advantage...in some cases it is a handicap and in others it is an advantage.
I'd say it is a handicap if you can't enjoy things others enjoy, like sporting events or concerts, but it is an advantage if you can feel detached from stuff like politics or funerals.
enigmatically 1 year ago
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Do you feel as though you too are immune from these sorts of feelings?
Very much so.
Do you view this as a handicap or an advantage?
More of a handicap.
The way I am led me to losing a lot of emotions and now feeling next to nothing on an emotional level.
I know when I should be sad or happy, I am just unable to have those emotions.
But in some instances it is better because its easier so break away from indoctrinated rituals, like the pledge of allegiance.
SoLo92ut 1 year ago
i personaly think i am and i veiw them as an advantage because things such as life questions can be seen and possibly decided more cleary than as to being blinded by the beliefs of others
herxemoxlover 1 year ago
Advantage: neutrality is the key to rational thought, and rational thought results in action (if any) that one would not regret.
ZYKLONBKILLSHITLER 1 year ago
i don't care for mob mentality it usually spawns bad results being immune to that sounds like a good thing to me. but you should keep in mind that being a part of something that is bigger then you is a natural human want. and i am sure that to some extent you do have a mob mentality just on a smaller scale.
falco6787 1 year ago
I liked the idea of the question at the end but felt it didn't quite fit, what with using "immune". I feel these things, and imagine that everyone does or will at some time. It's what we take away from the feelings that's more important that if we feel them or not. I really love having deep emotional connections, but don't feel the need to call them divinely ordained or as coming from anywhere but myself.
TheWeizOne 1 year ago
i do feel the same way. and its an advantage.
hollyyytho 1 year ago
Watching that,I felt like I was having an acid flashback and I was talking to myself. Well done! I know the feeling about needing a reason to dress up like a lady. The WBC is coming to my neck of the woods to protest in front of the Naval base I used to be stationed at. Somebody might be getting sprinkled with fairy dust...haha
nonprophet1977 1 year ago
Om(insert appropriate initial) You're from New Orleans?! I feel so honored to be in the same state as you! :D
rebelmoronorunescape 1 year ago
I think of it as an advantage . people who think for themselves often avoid common mistakes that group think can get you into.
Staff7 1 year ago
> Do you feel as though you too are immune from these sorts of feelings?
Yes.
> Do you view this as a handicap or an advantage?
As an adult, I view it as an advantage. As a teenager I often felt it was a handicap, as I wondered why I couldn't get as ecstatic as my friends were about New Year's Eve.
ToddAllenGates2 1 year ago
I think being detached from social groups in the way you describe is something of an advantage. I have to admit i feel something to this extent. I think it allows me to take a step back and view a situation or a system as it is. Not viewing yourself as a part of the clockwork machine that is our society allows one to see how things really work within the system that they are a part of. People who can't do this end up blinded by ignorance of what is around them, or right in front of their faces.
imNORMLsam 1 year ago
I suppose I feel some feeling to some extent, but it's not excitement, as much as it is anxiety, annoyance, and disgust, due to a learned misanthropy I have towards my fellow man, and yet, this feeling only persists until I take action in some way that brings me into this mob mentality, usually through dancing or some such act, but it's more odd that I'm having to decide to act on it, than simply be drawn into it like some others. All in all, I view this as an advantage, being detached.
ZombifiedGuitarist 1 year ago
If I feel that way does it make me a part of the mob that feels that way?
YSWAWTFOMC 1 year ago
I think you've expressed what everyone thinks when in a "mob".
You're there for the spectacle and comradery. You're there to support or you're there just observe. You're there because your friends are there and there's nothing better to do at the time.
And when it comes right down to it, I don't think anyone feels anything other than "I hope I see something that makes coming here worth while."
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago