finding all of these Squall is dead comments odd. if he did die it makes even less sense because the next 3 discs are supposed to be his fantasy or dreams. how can they be a dead person can't dream or fantasize about things.
this ending is amazing and we should just keep the ending to how we believe it to be i dont know if hes dead or alive all i know is that ending is by far the best :D
Why people are always trying to find things where there's nothing.
Rinoa is not Ultimecia, the creator of FF8 told that already. Squall is not dead, Rinoa smiles after the sky is cleared up. Rinoa is not dead. When he saw her without a face, is just his fear of lose the person who he loves.
And this ending, it is just a reference how they met each other for the first time. Squall was looking to the sky and saw a shooting star, now was the same thing with Rinoa. The beginning and the ending.
Not only did he die by disc one, but Rinoa is just his daydream, she died before this game started, her death making Squall the loner he is, by the point of the this ending, he remembers everything, except Rinoa, her memory is fuzzy... why cant he remember her? Because she at some earlier point died in outer space...
He imagines that she would have been alive if he had told her that he loved her earlier (thus he imagines that he can send his thoughts to her, which magically keep her alive).
@AlphaFirefly How does Rinoa die before the game...but suddenly exist up til squalls death? Assuming squall DOES die at the end of disc one everything up til then is real, meaning General Caraway really did interact with her and try to lock her in the mansion (locking the others in there too) Rinoa couldn't be HIS daydream because EVERYONE interacted with her. She couldn't have died in space before the game because if they went to space after squall died, even Esthar might not be real.
@AlphaFirefly I love that you bring fight club into the picture, i lLOVE that movie, but on that note yes Tyler was a figment of the Narrator imagination, no one elses, everytime the Narrator speaks or refers to Tyler they all think he's lost his mind.
but in FF EVERYONE acknowledges rinoa, meaning ether she's real, or one hell of a shared hallucination.
@Urb4n0Ninj4 Meh... yet again: If Squall is able to imagine a complete persona that died years ago, I am certain he would have an easy time imagining his other friends interact with her.
Watch Fight Club again, people often talk back to Tyler, all part of the main characters mind.
Well, when you are able to visualize someone else completely, it cant be that hard to do the rest, besides, it could all be a dream Squall is having as he is dying, for example, and dreams... are selective enough.
So what I'm getting from this is that Squall died (Or was on the verge of dying) after the final battle, and Rinoa brought him back to life/saved him just like Squall saved her from dying when she was lost in space. I could be wrong, those are just my thoughts. Beautiful ending nontheless. Right up there with the Kingdom Hearts endings, they get me every time. <3
@guitarsANDcars39 No fag. He got pierced by an Ice pillar in the chest, fell off a balcony and died at the end of disc 1. Disc 2 is him, thinking what he could've been if he didn't die.
okay if squall did die it makes this so sad . notice in part 2 rinoa is standing on the balcony alone :( squall isn't there until now . makes me want to cry if it is true :( final fantasy games always have a way to make you think . . .
@sandoval15 teehee. i forgive you :) i'm sorry too lol. for my comment being confusing. that was 2 months ago so i've learned more about the game from playing it through again and such ^-^
Squall dies in the final fight, never gets back from the compression of time, in this video is seen as squall does not appear until after Rinoa see a shooting star, and supposed to make a wish, after to this appears squall. . XDD!
I personally do not find meaning in theory that dies at the end of cd 1
Squall muere en la pelea final, nunca logra regresar de la compresion del tiempo, en este video se aprecia como squall no aparece sino hasta despues de que Rinoa ve una estrella Fugaz y se inerpreta que pide un deseo, posterior a eso aparece squall.. XDD!!
En lo personal no le encuentro sentido a la teoria que dice que muere al final del cd 1..
On disc 1 during the first mission in Timber Squall says something along the lines of "Things don't work out the way you want them to".
Well the ending ended pretty much perfectly for him... a designer of ff7 said that Aeris dying so early was to give it a more realistic dramatisation.. maybe final fantasy VIII was another step in that direction with Squall?
Official or not, I prefer the "Squall is Dead" theory. It makes more sense, it's an interesting and entertaining concept, and it's pretty damn original.
it ties the story perfectly, he dies and everything after he gets skewed by the ice bolt is his fleeting dream mixed with his life flasing before his eyes
everything after the feather drops in the first few minuts if the ending cg is a depiction of heaven he is dead.
its his final fantasy .....everything about the story which was confusing suddenly makes sense when you realise it was a dream.
You know what's weird is why she keeps doing that exact same finger pose. Figment of Squall's imagination? That Squall is dead theory is really convincing!
Hehe np. I remember I thought it was confusing too when I played it for the first time, it wasn't that long ago, about 6 months or so. The story in FF8 (and FF7) are very complex to say the least....
@hairegu2 He actually did die in disc one at the end she shot him with the ice spell the rest of the disc is his dreams and when his dreams come to an end
Squalls fucking dead, and if you don't subscribe to the theory, then you might as well join the Flat Earth Society.
Obamaislessthanbush 3 weeks ago
Just finished for the first time ever 5 mins ago. 3 FF8 3D now please...
DavidNorris1991 1 month ago
Yeah, you fools. The guy lives. You clearly see him alive and well at the end. What's up with you nerds and your radical interpretations?
MightyMartel 1 month ago
also people saying Rinoa has no interest in Seifer after disc one it's probably because she see's him allied with Edea at the end of the disc.
mberry015 2 months ago
finding all of these Squall is dead comments odd. if he did die it makes even less sense because the next 3 discs are supposed to be his fantasy or dreams. how can they be a dead person can't dream or fantasize about things.
mberry015 2 months ago
this ending is amazing and we should just keep the ending to how we believe it to be i dont know if hes dead or alive all i know is that ending is by far the best :D
chingy641 2 months ago
This ending is far superior to FF7.
tubenachos 2 months ago
God fuck I love this game.
FFVIII's story allowed for serious speculation, this is and always will be one of the deepest and underrated Final Fantasy titles.
<3
YaneKazu 4 months ago
@YaneKazu cant say people liked drawing 10 times each time they found a new spell.
faiye1 3 months ago
@faiye1 aye it was tedious, but you also had GF mag-ref abilities to make aquiring spells alot easier.
YaneKazu 3 months ago
So, are you saying he was alive and idealized Rinoa, who by the time she was already dead.
But how could Rinoa contract the SeeD's by Cid? As I recently formed SeeD would Cid let him go freely?
ounico 4 months ago
Why people are always trying to find things where there's nothing.
Rinoa is not Ultimecia, the creator of FF8 told that already. Squall is not dead, Rinoa smiles after the sky is cleared up. Rinoa is not dead. When he saw her without a face, is just his fear of lose the person who he loves.
And this ending, it is just a reference how they met each other for the first time. Squall was looking to the sky and saw a shooting star, now was the same thing with Rinoa. The beginning and the ending.
Tep8u 5 months ago 2
<3
inSanity753 6 months ago
You know... this disturbs me, so I gotta say it out loud:
I am straight, yet damn Squall is good looking... I wish I looked just like him, fuck... at least I am still the best looking man alive.
AlphaFirefly 9 months ago 2
Not only did he die by disc one, but Rinoa is just his daydream, she died before this game started, her death making Squall the loner he is, by the point of the this ending, he remembers everything, except Rinoa, her memory is fuzzy... why cant he remember her? Because she at some earlier point died in outer space...
He imagines that she would have been alive if he had told her that he loved her earlier (thus he imagines that he can send his thoughts to her, which magically keep her alive).
AlphaFirefly 9 months ago
@AlphaFirefly How does Rinoa die before the game...but suddenly exist up til squalls death? Assuming squall DOES die at the end of disc one everything up til then is real, meaning General Caraway really did interact with her and try to lock her in the mansion (locking the others in there too) Rinoa couldn't be HIS daydream because EVERYONE interacted with her. She couldn't have died in space before the game because if they went to space after squall died, even Esthar might not be real.
Urb4n0Ninj4 8 months ago
@Urb4n0Ninj4 She does not exist until his death, only in his mind.
Remember when things start getting blurry? Why does every image look still, EXCEPT Rinoa in every flashback?
He is struggling to remember Rinoa, yet remembers everything else perfectly, until he sees her corpse in space, and feels hollow, then he cries.
Aka: Why cant I remember her? Oh right... she died.. I feel hollow *sad*
The interactions between her and others can also be imaginative, ever seen fight club?
AlphaFirefly 8 months ago
@AlphaFirefly I love that you bring fight club into the picture, i lLOVE that movie, but on that note yes Tyler was a figment of the Narrator imagination, no one elses, everytime the Narrator speaks or refers to Tyler they all think he's lost his mind.
but in FF EVERYONE acknowledges rinoa, meaning ether she's real, or one hell of a shared hallucination.
Urb4n0Ninj4 8 months ago
@Urb4n0Ninj4 Meh... yet again: If Squall is able to imagine a complete persona that died years ago, I am certain he would have an easy time imagining his other friends interact with her.
Watch Fight Club again, people often talk back to Tyler, all part of the main characters mind.
Well, when you are able to visualize someone else completely, it cant be that hard to do the rest, besides, it could all be a dream Squall is having as he is dying, for example, and dreams... are selective enough.
AlphaFirefly 8 months ago
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MrRetlav 10 months ago
Squall was dead since disk one
Ven01273 11 months ago
@Ven01273
That has already been more or less discredited bro
though a very fun theory
BumbleMarkizme 11 months ago
@BumbleMarkizme Counterpoints being raised does not mean "discredited".
Badhabitsjay 9 months ago
@BumbleMarkizme Really? Where has it been discredited? Please show me.
Oh and as much as you enjoy calling strangers bro, I ask you to not call me by that.
AlphaFirefly 9 months ago
why you guys keep saying Edea is the one who wants to interrogate Squall
at that time or very beginning Edea was posses by ultimecia
Ultimecia the sorceress who holds a grudge against seeds!!
Ultimecia just wants to know why Seed was form and at that time squall was the squad leader so ultimecia spared squall and question him
Ultimecia was just using Edea to control Seifer being his matron and like that
vhanzyzone 1 year ago
I embrace this as a very, very great theory
squallsdead dotcom
Otherwise, SquareSoft can't write to save their lives.
DynaDash 1 year ago
So what I'm getting from this is that Squall died (Or was on the verge of dying) after the final battle, and Rinoa brought him back to life/saved him just like Squall saved her from dying when she was lost in space. I could be wrong, those are just my thoughts. Beautiful ending nontheless. Right up there with the Kingdom Hearts endings, they get me every time. <3
RikuAxelCloud 1 year ago
@RikuAxelCloud squall didnt die, he just got trapped in a time space thing by Ultimecia(final boss). but Rinoa did save him.
guitarsANDcars39 1 year ago
some 1 said squall died in disc 1 ending ?? can some 1 tell me whats going wrong with squall?
TheMakarera 1 year ago
@TheMakarera squall doesnt die
guitarsANDcars39 1 year ago
@guitarsANDcars39 No fag. He got pierced by an Ice pillar in the chest, fell off a balcony and died at the end of disc 1. Disc 2 is him, thinking what he could've been if he didn't die.
whatsittooye 1 year ago
@whatsittooye NO BITCH. he doesnt die.
guitarsANDcars39 1 year ago
@guitarsANDcars39 Prove it.
whatsittooye 1 year ago
@whatsittooye watch the video. u see him in the end. thats squall alive. plus Edea kept squall alive because she wanted to know what SeeD was.
guitarsANDcars39 1 year ago
@guitarsANDcars39 Edea kept Squall alive for interrogation?
Well that's stupid, Squall has just been a Seed for like, 2 weeks.
Edea should be interrogating Quistis, who has been a SeeD for years.
whatsittooye 1 year ago
@whatsittooye
haha way to quote that theory word for word lol
dennis20014 1 year ago
@yes, that's how I love FF VIII lol
whatsittooye 1 year ago
@whatsittooye really? so what actually happen then? since your think you know it all
weer390 1 year ago
Squall dies is only a theory. Don't worry, spastic fangirls; this does not mean it's true. In fact, it's most likely not true.
KytaEternal 1 year ago
did squall really die??can you tell me about it??how did he die?
azilOkiram 1 year ago
I've been asking myself this hundredths of time but I'm not sure if my answer to it is correct..so i'll just ask you anyways..
my question: Did Rinoa and Squall really kissed at that last part? O:
sandoval15 1 year ago
OMFG!!!! i wanna cry!!! T_____T xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, i need to play this game gain!!!!!! xD
zjamn 1 year ago 2
okay if squall did die it makes this so sad . notice in part 2 rinoa is standing on the balcony alone :( squall isn't there until now . makes me want to cry if it is true :( final fantasy games always have a way to make you think . . .
carlichan21 1 year ago
@carlichan21 SQUALL DID NOT DIE DAMN IT! D:<
sandoval15 1 year ago
@carlichan21 I recommend that you should PLAY THE GAME for you to understand it -_-""
sandoval15 1 year ago
@sandoval15 ^o^ oh my! i did play the game. i know squall didn't die, its a theory, i meant it would be sad if it were true. chill O.o
carlichan21 1 year ago
@carlichan21 ROFL. oooooh sorry ^ ~ ^""
sandoval15 1 year ago
@sandoval15 teehee. i forgive you :) i'm sorry too lol. for my comment being confusing. that was 2 months ago so i've learned more about the game from playing it through again and such ^-^
carlichan21 1 year ago
Squall dies in the final fight, never gets back from the compression of time, in this video is seen as squall does not appear until after Rinoa see a shooting star, and supposed to make a wish, after to this appears squall. . XDD!
I personally do not find meaning in theory that dies at the end of cd 1
americo105 1 year ago
@americo105
squall did not die he was stuck in the other dimension until Rinoa broke in and pull him back out shes a witch after all
wangttang 1 year ago
@americo105 huh? what the heck are you talking about? squall didn't die.. -_-""
sandoval15 1 year ago
Squall muere en la pelea final, nunca logra regresar de la compresion del tiempo, en este video se aprecia como squall no aparece sino hasta despues de que Rinoa ve una estrella Fugaz y se inerpreta que pide un deseo, posterior a eso aparece squall.. XDD!!
En lo personal no le encuentro sentido a la teoria que dice que muere al final del cd 1..
americo105 1 year ago
I love this game so much.
Probably the best story ever in a video game.
DarkwoodsZ 1 year ago
I just realised something.
On disc 1 during the first mission in Timber Squall says something along the lines of "Things don't work out the way you want them to".
Well the ending ended pretty much perfectly for him... a designer of ff7 said that Aeris dying so early was to give it a more realistic dramatisation.. maybe final fantasy VIII was another step in that direction with Squall?
limbobbins 1 year ago
Erm, The squall is Dead theory is almost the same as the Ash is dead one. The only difference is that he knew all these people BEFORE he died.
puddingman321 1 year ago
i wonder how many people got here from the link at the squallisdead site, which was posted on fakku?
ivancito7790 1 year ago 5
Official or not, I prefer the "Squall is Dead" theory. It makes more sense, it's an interesting and entertaining concept, and it's pretty damn original.
SergeantShrapnel 1 year ago
it ties the story perfectly, he dies and everything after he gets skewed by the ice bolt is his fleeting dream mixed with his life flasing before his eyes
everything after the feather drops in the first few minuts if the ending cg is a depiction of heaven he is dead.
its his final fantasy .....everything about the story which was confusing suddenly makes sense when you realise it was a dream.
RunFasterPussycat 1 year ago
Don't forget he's die and this is his own heaven of his memories and dreams. This is his own little world.
ChromosomeExcel 1 year ago
Very interesting on the part where hes in his own little world.
mesonoobie 1 year ago
You know what's weird is why she keeps doing that exact same finger pose. Figment of Squall's imagination? That Squall is dead theory is really convincing!
SicSlaver 1 year ago
squall has some cool hair...
kamucha12 2 years ago 2
watch from 1:52
then youll see Squall's first smile
and that he is alive ^^
Seniarth 2 years ago
im confused did squall die or not
smatmatt58 2 years ago
He did not die, as you can see in part 2, Squall wakes up when Rinoa reaches him and hugs him. So Squall did not die, this is a happy ending :)
hairegu2 2 years ago
ok srry im playing the game for the first time ever and im a little bit confused
ffviiirocks101 2 years ago 2
Hehe np. I remember I thought it was confusing too when I played it for the first time, it wasn't that long ago, about 6 months or so. The story in FF8 (and FF7) are very complex to say the least....
crazyanaconda01 2 years ago
im also playing final fantasy 7 right now 2
ffviiirocks101 2 years ago
@ffviiirocks101 lol you watched this and you havent beaten it yet lol well its a good game I must say
Sabin06 1 year ago
@Sabin06 yep ,well actually about 3 or 4 months ago i beat it :)
ffviiirocks101 1 year ago
@hairegu2 He actually did die in disc one at the end she shot him with the ice spell the rest of the disc is his dreams and when his dreams come to an end
daxter389744 1 year ago
I hope you realize that's just one of the theories. Nobody said it was official. There isn't anything official.
TheCheezWizz 1 year ago
lol this is my other account
ffviiirocks101 2 years ago
hes alive
Yassinalina 2 years ago