Wow!! Corax!!! Oh, hi, remember me? :P From 2nd Life. OMG!!!! If that's you in the vid, yer not at all what I pictured you as!! You don't look at all like a raven!!
Oh, hi! Yes, I can tell from your name, Zeaux. I haven't been in SL for a while, but will probably be back soon.
No, in RL I don't look much like the bird, except that I tend to dress in black at times, and my reaction to shiny things can be rather hilarious at times...
I'm not a fan of technics organs either. I particularly hate the monophonic pedals. I play an older model of basically the same organ. I completely agree about the gadgets, fun but totally useless. I also agree about pipe organs, no space is too small for one! Thanks for posting and excellent work.
Yes, the monophonic pedals... I'm constantly cutting off my own notes! It's as if the designers thought nobody in their right mind would ever put two feet to a pedalboard.
Thank you! Unfortunately I cannot use this organ effectively for the rest of this piece because it has only 25 pedals, and this piece needs at least 29. I can be quite frustrating....
Your articulation is good, and I appreciate your post. I have played an Allen Protégé with a MIDI expander for 6 years and I am pleased to recommend these fine instruments. They are constructed to AGO specs and the digital samples are per-note discrete, giving each "pipe" it's individual personality. $25K should get you a well-appointed model.
I'm sure they are great organs, and would work great as a practice instrument when you have lots of money but can't buy any free space. But for church use, for $25k and a bit of hard work I could have a rather well-apportioned genuine pipe organ instead, which I'd prefer. I just find it hard to justify spending so much money on a box of wires! Anyway, thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it!
We couldn't get 3 ranks of pipes in the sanctuary, so digital was the way to go for us. When I say "well appointed" I mean it. Just the 16' reeds available might take up your whole chamber. Besides the thrilling pedal Posaune and swell Basson, the Midi Expander adds a brighter Basson, Dulzian, Trompette, Tuba, Trumpet (loud), Post-Horn, Diaphone, and even a buzzy Musette. Our sanctuary has dead acoustics and the digital organ provides "Virtual Acoustics" to liven it up.
I'd rather renovate the sanctuary and have the real thing, than to have a lot of the imitation. However, normally it's not up to one person, and in my church, a quality music program is not a priority, so there's no money available for even a decent electronic organ. Obviously I remain where I am for reasons other than the music program.
This is cool man! I like this! I love the sound of organs and you seem to be on your way to being very awesome at it. But wow, I never knew so much foul language and attitude could come from such a simple video post. You simply posted a nice video of the playing of the organ and boom somehow slanderers managed to come and post. Something should be concluded...either you have people assigned to be against you(a good sign in Moshiach) or its a sign we are in the last days, hehe. Shalom.
It's a Technics SX-F3. Not adequate for this music, since it has only 25 pedals, but this piece needs at least 29. However, I have an organ of my own which has all the necessary parts and I've been practicing as I have the time. Hopefully soon I'll be able to post another video to show how I'm doing! Thanks for the encouragement!
I've actually played Widor's Tocatta on this organ, but the results were very disappointing. The pedal part is very important in that piece, and this organ compromises the pedals too much.
My school has the same organ. I practice on it occasionally and was wondering if the pedal is only monophonic. Is it possible to get polyphony out them?
No, you can't get more than one pedal to sound at a time. This is one reason why I had to stop using this organ for practice - it was causing me more harm than good, as I was forced to modify my pedal technique due to missing notes and lack of pedals.
Hmm... Don't care much for the Technics organsound - I'd rather hear it play a popsong with all the bells and whistles. It has a LOT of autostuff to make a popsong richer in sound.
No, it's a bit too old for midi. It was made some time in the mid 80s. It does have a floppy-disk based sequencer, but this has only been used a couple times since the church got it. Yes, this is a pop-music organ, not a church organ, and it has many bells and whistles which are never used in our more traditional music program.
Let me correct myself. It contains neither bells nor whistles, but electronic circuitry and speakers which attempt to imitate the sound of bells and whistles. Real pipe organs contain actual bells and whistles.
You don't have to cheat. Let God do His work. Take some influential people to the nearest Allen dealer and let them hear you play familiar Church music. Good music attracts people to Church, and a good organ will assure satisfying worship for both congregation and the Almighty.
I don't think I could get away with the glass of water trick! ;) Nevertheless, the surge suppressor has taken its final surge (the protection light is out) so just maybe a bolt of lightening might do it... If it's an act of God, nobody can go against that! Also the cheaply built thing is showing its age quite badly, and the bench is about to fall apart. A new bench costs about the same as what they payed for the whole organ! Silly 500 character limit...
But I will not give up on the music! I'm starting a hint campaign now, which hopefully will escalate into something bigger as time goes on. I'm quite fond of demonstrating the deficiencies of the organ, and one influential lady was rather surprised when I told her this is a "rock and roll" organ. And it is - complete with automated rhythm section and all the sounds of the Hammond organ. Since this church is very much against rock and roll, I think this may be a good strategy to use!
Our old Hammond died a few years ago and I rejoiced. We spent $20k on an Allen Protege with AGO specs, 35 digital ranks, a MIDI expander with 100 voices, and virtual accoustics that make the instument sound quite real and very satisfying to musicians and worshippers. I highly recommend the Allen for those with limited budgets and space.
im in the same boat as you! im comparatively new at organ and this is one of my first pieces. i think i prefer the difficult pieces because they challenge me! i guess you're the same. keep going, i'm still working on it, but i have access to an excellent organ. (i'm friends with the organist at guildford cathedral so i can play there!) if u ask around you'll be allowed access to a chuch pipe organ. organists are getting thin on the ground and are always happy to aid in a beginner's practice!
I know it's one of Bach's most difficult works, and that's precisely why I chose it! Maybe I'm a bit weird, but I prefer to start on difficult things first, which makes the normal things easy. You give good advice, and I'm already doing most of it. I'm aware of my deficient areas, and improving. You'll hear better in time! Thanks for the comments!
Don't be discouraged - You are not ready for this - one of the most difficult of Bach's organ works.
1. Use a metronome. 2. Practice manuals on piano, not organ. Practice slowly and accurately with metronome. As proficiency increases, slowly increase tempo with metronome. Memorize this work.
E. Power Biggs' performance on the Flentrop organ is best I have ever heard.
I will definitely (if at all possible, that is) post the complete version when I get it down! I love this piece, and can't wait to complete it. Though I may have to do it on a different organ! The sudden slowdown on the pedal part is largely due to poor ergonomics in the pedalboard.
What is the name brand of this organ and model?
patsaxon 1 year ago
It goes better and better :) which brand of organ is this ? :)
paranormaalutrecht 2 years ago
Please, read the "more info" to the right for what kind of organ this is.
ccoraxfan 2 years ago
Awesome playing by the way!!!
TwilightZeaux 2 years ago
You should check out my completed version of this piece, at watch?v=H96nvAfZPUM
ccoraxfan 2 years ago
Wow!! Corax!!! Oh, hi, remember me? :P From 2nd Life. OMG!!!! If that's you in the vid, yer not at all what I pictured you as!! You don't look at all like a raven!!
TwilightZeaux 2 years ago
Oh, hi! Yes, I can tell from your name, Zeaux. I haven't been in SL for a while, but will probably be back soon.
No, in RL I don't look much like the bird, except that I tend to dress in black at times, and my reaction to shiny things can be rather hilarious at times...
ccoraxfan 2 years ago
lol, you look like a science teacher I had before, nice playing!
MysticGoldenShadow 3 years ago
I like science too! Never taught it though. Thanks for the comments!
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
I'm not a fan of technics organs either. I particularly hate the monophonic pedals. I play an older model of basically the same organ. I completely agree about the gadgets, fun but totally useless. I also agree about pipe organs, no space is too small for one! Thanks for posting and excellent work.
cromorne 3 years ago
Yes, the monophonic pedals... I'm constantly cutting off my own notes! It's as if the designers thought nobody in their right mind would ever put two feet to a pedalboard.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
Leaning to play on a very old musical instrument is not easy at all but your playing was really nice. Bravo!
Linhdanvo 3 years ago
Thank you! Unfortunately I cannot use this organ effectively for the rest of this piece because it has only 25 pedals, and this piece needs at least 29. I can be quite frustrating....
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
Your articulation is good, and I appreciate your post. I have played an Allen Protégé with a MIDI expander for 6 years and I am pleased to recommend these fine instruments. They are constructed to AGO specs and the digital samples are per-note discrete, giving each "pipe" it's individual personality. $25K should get you a well-appointed model.
accousticdecay 3 years ago
I'm sure they are great organs, and would work great as a practice instrument when you have lots of money but can't buy any free space. But for church use, for $25k and a bit of hard work I could have a rather well-apportioned genuine pipe organ instead, which I'd prefer. I just find it hard to justify spending so much money on a box of wires! Anyway, thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it!
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
We couldn't get 3 ranks of pipes in the sanctuary, so digital was the way to go for us. When I say "well appointed" I mean it. Just the 16' reeds available might take up your whole chamber. Besides the thrilling pedal Posaune and swell Basson, the Midi Expander adds a brighter Basson, Dulzian, Trompette, Tuba, Trumpet (loud), Post-Horn, Diaphone, and even a buzzy Musette. Our sanctuary has dead acoustics and the digital organ provides "Virtual Acoustics" to liven it up.
accousticdecay 3 years ago
I'd rather renovate the sanctuary and have the real thing, than to have a lot of the imitation. However, normally it's not up to one person, and in my church, a quality music program is not a priority, so there's no money available for even a decent electronic organ. Obviously I remain where I am for reasons other than the music program.
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
Thats good work! good luck! Upload the whole part in the future!
Greetz
opperdoes24 3 years ago
I intend to soon, well as soon as I find my missing camera! Now where did that thing go...
ccoraxfan 3 years ago
This is cool man! I like this! I love the sound of organs and you seem to be on your way to being very awesome at it. But wow, I never knew so much foul language and attitude could come from such a simple video post. You simply posted a nice video of the playing of the organ and boom somehow slanderers managed to come and post. Something should be concluded...either you have people assigned to be against you(a good sign in Moshiach) or its a sign we are in the last days, hehe. Shalom.
jamlimited3 4 years ago
Thanks for the support! Shalom!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
bigbutthole, I'm not Christ -- it's just that I'm holier than thou. You're just buttholy. Now, the dumbass may reply.
vonijoe 4 years ago
Bigcanuk...are you trying to give Canadians a very bad image? And isn't it spelled "canuck"?
Find some class and adopt it, bigbutthole!
vonijoe 4 years ago
Is this organ a technics FA-1 organ. It looks like it.
Oh keep practicing an you will get there.
Royalorgans 4 years ago
It's a Technics SX-F3. Not adequate for this music, since it has only 25 pedals, but this piece needs at least 29. However, I have an organ of my own which has all the necessary parts and I've been practicing as I have the time. Hopefully soon I'll be able to post another video to show how I'm doing! Thanks for the encouragement!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
You're going to have to either explain yourself, or be written off as a troll. So what'll it be?
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
I may have the wit of a nit, but at least my Youtube comments have something to do with the subject at hand.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
There goes Widor's Tocatta. Thanks.
cromorne 4 years ago
I've actually played Widor's Tocatta on this organ, but the results were very disappointing. The pedal part is very important in that piece, and this organ compromises the pedals too much.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
My school has the same organ. I practice on it occasionally and was wondering if the pedal is only monophonic. Is it possible to get polyphony out them?
cromorne 4 years ago
No, you can't get more than one pedal to sound at a time. This is one reason why I had to stop using this organ for practice - it was causing me more harm than good, as I was forced to modify my pedal technique due to missing notes and lack of pedals.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Hmm... Don't care much for the Technics organsound - I'd rather hear it play a popsong with all the bells and whistles. It has a LOT of autostuff to make a popsong richer in sound.
Does it have midi?
charliecrash 4 years ago
No, it's a bit too old for midi. It was made some time in the mid 80s. It does have a floppy-disk based sequencer, but this has only been used a couple times since the church got it. Yes, this is a pop-music organ, not a church organ, and it has many bells and whistles which are never used in our more traditional music program.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Let me correct myself. It contains neither bells nor whistles, but electronic circuitry and speakers which attempt to imitate the sound of bells and whistles. Real pipe organs contain actual bells and whistles.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
You don't have to cheat. Let God do His work. Take some influential people to the nearest Allen dealer and let them hear you play familiar Church music. Good music attracts people to Church, and a good organ will assure satisfying worship for both congregation and the Almighty.
accousticdecay 4 years ago
spill a glass of water on it and insist on a proper church organ, dont give up on making music
joe22twentytoo 4 years ago
I don't think I could get away with the glass of water trick! ;) Nevertheless, the surge suppressor has taken its final surge (the protection light is out) so just maybe a bolt of lightening might do it... If it's an act of God, nobody can go against that! Also the cheaply built thing is showing its age quite badly, and the bench is about to fall apart. A new bench costs about the same as what they payed for the whole organ! Silly 500 character limit...
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
But I will not give up on the music! I'm starting a hint campaign now, which hopefully will escalate into something bigger as time goes on. I'm quite fond of demonstrating the deficiencies of the organ, and one influential lady was rather surprised when I told her this is a "rock and roll" organ. And it is - complete with automated rhythm section and all the sounds of the Hammond organ. Since this church is very much against rock and roll, I think this may be a good strategy to use!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Our old Hammond died a few years ago and I rejoiced. We spent $20k on an Allen Protege with AGO specs, 35 digital ranks, a MIDI expander with 100 voices, and virtual accoustics that make the instument sound quite real and very satisfying to musicians and worshippers. I highly recommend the Allen for those with limited budgets and space.
accousticdecay 4 years ago
im in the same boat as you! im comparatively new at organ and this is one of my first pieces. i think i prefer the difficult pieces because they challenge me! i guess you're the same. keep going, i'm still working on it, but i have access to an excellent organ. (i'm friends with the organist at guildford cathedral so i can play there!) if u ask around you'll be allowed access to a chuch pipe organ. organists are getting thin on the ground and are always happy to aid in a beginner's practice!
PeteWagstaff 4 years ago
I know it's one of Bach's most difficult works, and that's precisely why I chose it! Maybe I'm a bit weird, but I prefer to start on difficult things first, which makes the normal things easy. You give good advice, and I'm already doing most of it. I'm aware of my deficient areas, and improving. You'll hear better in time! Thanks for the comments!
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Don't be discouraged - You are not ready for this - one of the most difficult of Bach's organ works.
1. Use a metronome. 2. Practice manuals on piano, not organ. Practice slowly and accurately with metronome. As proficiency increases, slowly increase tempo with metronome. Memorize this work.
E. Power Biggs' performance on the Flentrop organ is best I have ever heard.
robertgift 4 years ago
When you've got it down, be sure to film another video! So - dare I ask who manufactured this "organ?"
posaune16 4 years ago
I will definitely (if at all possible, that is) post the complete version when I get it down! I love this piece, and can't wait to complete it. Though I may have to do it on a different organ! The sudden slowdown on the pedal part is largely due to poor ergonomics in the pedalboard.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago
Read the video description which I've updated with details on the instrument.
ccoraxfan 4 years ago