According to NOAA scientists, 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year of the global surface temperature record, beginning in 1880. This was the 34th ...
NASA - NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record
The difference between 2011 and the warmest year in the GISS record (2010) is 0.22 degrees F (0.12 C).
All this carbon tax that has been conned out of you by your goverments. Maybe the world is warming up, maybe its not, but if it is warming up,, its not mans fault! This is a total myth! Your goverments have been waiting for years to find a new way to tax and order you around. I am no expert but I have spoken to and listened to experts on global warming. And the results are , YOUR GOVERMENTS ARE CONNING YOU!
I don't expect you sheeple to believe in global warming. Most of you can't even locate Mexico on a map. It'll take something terrible to happen for you people to wake up.
Ignorance.... Of course the sun drives climate change. But it is NOT the only factor. For the past few thousand years the climate has followed the sun and Pacific ocilation. But for the past 60 years or so the sun has gon down... but out climate has gone up... why is that? As for the private emails.. you should actually red those because there is only 2 or 3 that seem damning at first, but if you read them in context they don't mean what you think it means.
ITS THE SUN YOU IDIOTS - ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE SUNS FAULT - ITS FUNNY WE HEARD THE OTHER DAY THE WORDS FOUR HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD? WHAT? THERE WAS HARDLY ENOUGH CO2 OR COAL DUST BACK 400 YEARS TO BE MANS FAULT SO WHY SAY MAN HAS DONE THIS? MAN HAS NOT DONE THIS , ITS THE SUN LOOK IT UP!
which is absolute nonsense since we could EASILY afford to pay to conserve, cut emissions, etc. How is a $14 Trillion economy going to "go under" just b/c we curb emissions even in the slightest?
You mean screw up our economy like the way the big banks did? There's no way that cutting emissions and supporting alternative energy could POSSIBLY make our economy any worse off than the bankers did in 2008.
REAL scientific websites that show the objective facts all say that global warming exists. The only ones DOUBTING it are right-wing ones with an obvious bias and agenda. Their agenda is to protect Big Oil, energy companies, etc. etc. and keep us from properly regulating them for our health and safety keeps them from seeing the big picture. They'd rather we KEEP POLLUTING and make things worse because of this propaganda about how taking steps to curb CO2 emissions will "screw up our econ"
that ALL of the world's scientists who've confirmed AGW over and over are "lying" and that it's just a giant 'hoax'?
Get real, deniers. AGW is REAL, and you need to accept that fact or GTFO of here and leave the science and politics to the grownups. It's no surprise that most deniers are probably very conservative and anti-science on many OTHER things, like stem cells, origins of the universe, etc. They're probably highly religious, too.
@whoo689 I don't expect you sheeple to believe in global warming. Most of you can't even locate Mexico on a map. It'll take something terrible to happen for you people to wake up.
So-called "climategate" was much ado about NOTHING! 3 independent investigations from Britain itself all confirmed this. They didn't much of anything damning, to be quite honest. But Fox News, what with its clear right-wing denier agenda, had a FIELD DAY with a handful of "revealing" quotes from these emails, many of the statements taken out of context.
Besides, even IF a few hundred scientists supposedly all conspired to LIE about global warming at ONE university, how does that 'prove'
To think that all of these CO2 emissions had NO EFFECT (or even a 'cooling' effect) is just the dumbest thing ever. What PLANET are these deniers from?? So everyone who says AGW "isn't real" is telling THE WHOLE TRUTH and isn't paid or bought in the slightest by, say, an energy company or think-tank?
Whereas ALL the people, especially the scientists who've actually done their own independent research and experimentation, are "lying" just to get grant money and whatnot? Dear god
@whoo689 It's all about Cap and Trade you idiot. All that money goes to the IMF and there will be a bunch of Jews trading in carbons futures, it will be a way bigger scam than Wall Street. Wake up!
If the global warming deniers ADMIT that they were wrong and that AGW is REAL and something of a threat to mankind, then they will HAVE to go about discussing real ways to fight it! They can't dodge THAT issue. But they CAN if they can convince enough people that "anthropogenic global warming isn't real."
Oh, please... Do you have ANY IDEA how much shit we've polluted into the air (let alone just CO2) in the past 150+ years? How could it NOT have some effect on shit like global temperature
A number of independent investigations from different countries, universities and government bodies have investigated the stolen emails and found no evidence of wrong doing. Focusing on a few suggestive emails, taken out of context, merely serves to distract from the wealth of empirical evidence for man-made global warming.
(please read article before the denier oil troll with all the sock puppet accounts censors it)..
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Mandatory emissions reporting decision could be delayed further in the UK
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Rules requiring companies to report on their greenhouse gas emissions look set to be delayed until later this year due to a bottleneck in the government's legislative process. .
@EdmundsB0 - paedo you're the same scumbag with the 1000000s of channels, so no, of course i wasn't following you. i merely noticed your comment here about beck is the complete opposite of what you posted about him elsewhere - where you showed up, to stalk me, as usual.
Climate change is not a conspiracy, its a natural cycle and has always been known as such both in the scientific community and publicly. However, what humanity has done is 'amplify' it as I was taught and as which is correct. Cutting down forests. pumping out smoke and smog from factories and cars, over population, pollution of water, air and land are all very bad things and are all due to humanity. We made things worse, its only right and smart that we fix things.
if you believe climate change is a hoax, you have to be one uniformed, ignorant fool at this point. the climategate crap was an epic fail for you deniers and even minimal research can demonstrate this, but i guess if nuts like alex jones say it, it must be true.
@david222444 i can pm you links to studies, you obviously aren't looking at the data for yourself.
great the sun caused past warming but it's demonstrably not responsible for current warming. we're coming out of a record solar minimum, in fact solar activity has been flat in recent decades while global temperatures have risen. temperatures continue to rise at night & areas of the planet that get the faintest sunlight, so even where solar effects are weakest we see change. nice try
@kapwns So therefore a tiny amount of harmless trace gas, heavier than air and essential to life on the Planet drives the climate, don't be silly. Maybe you should look into Svensmarks work. Have you heard of the Oceans? They store heat you know and cover the majority of the Planet. So you think you can demostrate that the Sun did not cause the past warming? lol Can you proove Co2 had any influence on the climate? Arrogance, ignorance and no sense of proportion.
@david222444 harmless? try breathing it. yeah a "tiny amount", but it has a big effect.ive looked into svensmarks work & criticisms of it. for someone so confident in his work he fears replication. your ocean claim doesn't account for the rise of temperatures that correlate with human activity & a rise in co2 levels
where did i say i could demonstrate that? o i didn't, read again.
i can cite studies that demonstrate co2 has an affect on climate. your ad hominems describe yourself
@kapwns Its a friggin industry now: Electric, hybrid cars industry, carbon credit companies, carbon tax etc etc. Its intermingled with politics to the point where if someone denies it publically is equated with a holocaust denier or a racist, have you people lost your god damn mind? We're insignificant to cause any real changes in our climate. The climate is always changing, WE CANT CHANGE IT, its out of our hands.
@luckyStrike89ru that's all after the fact and an entirely different issue. just because we don't like how the politicians and corporations handle the facts or what they do with them, doesn't mean we can solve them by denying the facts. rather we should be pushing for better policy, rather than kicking a dead horse.
um we can't change the climate? that's like saying i don't need to clean my apartment cuz no one person is too messy, it's not like the contributions add up lol.
@kapwns "um we can't change the climate? that's like saying i don't need to clean my apartment cuz no one person is too messy, it's not like the contributions add up lol."
-What kind of an analogy is that? In order for us to change such a celestial body's climate you have to change the sun OR blast 10,000 nuclear weapons all at once. There you go.
@luckyStrike89ru so then you agree with me, that your original statement in all caps no less, "we can't change it", is wrong. sorry you don't understand the analogy but you agree any way so. there ya go.
@kapwns I mean we can change it in terms of "if hell freezes over" because we cant realistically change the sun or nuke ourselves unless we're all suicidal lol.
@kapwns "rather we should be pushing for better policy, rather than kicking a dead horse."- uh.... NO, we shouldnt. Politicians have no right to start making people pay for carbon credits when they drive a gas guzzler, or jail a person for drinking out of a glass bottle based on an unproven hoax that's just a scheme to make money and tax more shit out of people. No thanks. Right now, it should be a choice until REAL scientists have a consensus on direct proof of man made climate change.
@luckyStrike89ru again you are trying to mix 2 issues. i don't agree with a lot of things you mention either, that doesn't mean i, instead, try to deny climate change. the things you list are dramatically hyperbolic anyway.
real scientists do have a consensus on climate change and it being significantly affected by human activity. it's only people like alex jones and fox news that want you to think otherwise.
@kapwns I dont deny climate change... I know its warming up. But its a natural warm up. Not all scientists have agreement on man-caused global warming. What you said is just isnt true.
@MrLettuceguy b/c "mike's trick" doesn't refer to faked data. the comment section is too short, but if you'd like i can pm you some links or even easier a video that explains it in the necessary detail. i can also send info on the movie you mentioned below, tho i still recommend looking into it for yourself as well so you know i'm not jus feeding you biased sources
are you referring to the cern study? i don't exactly what you are referring to, but if you could elaborate, i might.
@kapwns ok thanks. you can check out Piers Morgan and Weather action.com for some info on the other side of global warming. I just have a question, do you agree with carbon taxes?
@MrLettuceguy no thank you, for keeping an open enough mind to at least see the other side.
it depends on what you mean by carbon taxes exactly. i think if we have to tax anyone it should be those that profit from polluting over a certain amount & really only to try to encourage a "greener" business, but i think that'd fail anyway.
also there's the issue of what is going to be done with the money & how to justify it going there. i haven't heard anything i'd support, so far.
@kapwns Oh ok. My issue with global warming is this; co2 on its own is not bad. The volcanoes on this earth produce more co2 than all human activity combined. obviously we disagree on the co2 point but the thing is that people are being taken advantage of and in some cases harmed. Did you know a British carbon tax company sent "green police" to Uganda and forced farmers to leave their land and if they resisted they were shot in the name of planting trees there to create a carbon sink?
That's complete crap. Volcanoes DO NOT produce more CO2 than what mankind produces. It's easily found on Google at reputable (science based) web sites, not some pseudo-expert denier web site like Infowars feeding you helpings of fear porn. You cite a myth perpetrated by reality deniers serving as puppets of the energy companie$, who don't want you to understand what's happening because it would hurt their profits and shatter the crumbling illusion of oil being plentiful and cheap.
@frededison Exactly! I googled the stupid-ass volcano claim a few months ago, and I immediately found out that volcanoes have produced at least 120 times MORE CO2 than mankind has ever! Where do these deniers come up with this crap?
Folks who keep claiming global warming "isn't real" or is "nothing to worry about" are just covering for the fact that they're too 'pro-business' to favor any REAL solutions taken by gov't to curb emissions! The right-wingers are being 'preemptive' here.
In the history of the Earth volcanoes may have ruled, but certainly within the last century (industrial revolution onset) mankind has far outproduced volcanoes (120 times is a fair average) in releasing the greenhouse gas CO2/carbon dioxide. I simply don't understand how those who refute science always manage to find 'one more thing' to blame the artificial and exceedingly rapid warming upon, when the whole time they only needed to look all around their environment for clues.
Your unrelenting belief in the joke known as "Global Warming" proves to me there is a gaping hole of nothingness that is your existence. It’s a wonder that your soul, so scarred by inadequacies, presses on nonetheless. I toast your persistence, sir.
@kapwns Only an idiot would think that we humans have a significant effect on the global climate. Its our sun that causes and it always did, our planet went through so many climate changes and crazy shit even before humans were humans. Temperatures fluctuate all the time. It has nothing to do with us. Without CO2, our planet would freeze to death. Only 3% of all the released CO2 into the atmosphere is human caused. We can see a hoax when there is one. And its also a good money scam.
@luckyStrike89ru nobody's arguing we should make it our mission to eliminate all co2 on earth except you. that 3% makes a big difference, it's becoming apparent its 3% more than the earth can normally take in and its effects are starting to show.
@kapwns Apparent in what? Hurricanes and floods? Natural occurrences that have been happening since earth was formed and in much bigger scales than today. This whole man caused global warming bullshit feeds off that- showing images of freak floods and hurricanes and start connecting it to our CO2 levels with the most remote connections ever and then try to act all smug about it.
@luckyStrike89ru record temperature extremes(most prominent in places unaffected by the sun), sea level rise, and yes, even increased intensity of things like "freak" floods and hurricanes.
you seem to have a rather black and white view on the matter here, i can accept that climate change is man made without taking the position that it's effects are extreme as you think.
@kapwns have you ever looked at how much volume of ice is lost on the poles? when you see videos of ice sheets over time you see a little bit of loss through the last couple of years but the volume is what is important. if you look at research regarding ice depth the amount of loss is massive. think about an iceberg and how much of it is underwater then think about cubic ft vs ft.
@kapwns How do you even calculate "increased intensity" of floods and hurricanes? Compared to what? There are hurricanes rolling around in the middle of oceans all the time. There are big, there are small. How does it depend on us? Oh gee, there is CO2 in it, then it MUST be us. I'm not being black and white, I'm just trying to be realistic.
@luckyStrike89ru you can look at the intensity and frequency of hurricanes and quickly see that added warmth to the ocean increases both. science is realistic not humans
@twizelby Exactly, which is why they happen during the summer months in the northern hemisphere. I live in New York and we had this hurricane Irene come, all of the "experts" said it will be category 2-3 when it reaches NYC, it wasnt even cat 1 when it reached. People ran away to higher grounds, all there was was some sprinkles. And it was a hot summer. Same with Katrina, although opposite. So dont rely on "experts" so much.
@luckyStrike89ru scientists dont look at individual days they look at long trends just because it snows hard one day doesnt predict anything about future winters
@twizelby Right, we cant predict everything. And thats why we dont need politicians effing us over with taxes on made up, or falsified information. Because I know where this is headed. This whole saving the earth thing will turn into fines and other crap against people that drive gas cars, smoke etc etc. Thats why I dont like it. Everything turns into politics in this day and age. I personally see it as a choice, its up to you.
@luckyStrike89ru well thats great, but we arent talking about politics, we are talking about science so unless you have an argument regarding anything related to science then I guess this conversation is over.
@kapwns Why do you guys always have to call us Fox news watchers? Is that like an insult? Oh gee, you watch MSNBC and Bill Maher and RT, you're a leftist loon, har har har.
@kapwns But, I'm gonna say this, yes those emissions like fossil fuel burning in China that burn buttloads of coal are bad, for people. They create health risks. I dont condone it, but I'm not ready to call it criminal.
@luckyStrike89ru i call you fox news watcher & alex jones cultists b/c the majority of the arguments made saw their introduction into this casual rhetoric thru those sources.
ok so at what point, would, you call something like the emissions from fossil fuel burning in china criminal?
@kapwns I dont know what Fox news watchers debate, but I bet it has something to do with Jesus. I'm not like that. I believe more in science. The man made global warming thing is just a hoax veiled as science. There are many professional documentaries that just say its flat our wrong and false data that serves special political interests. And its VERY easy to sway the public with emotional power point presentations impending DOOM!
@Obamaluke but to have two experts argue over what 1+1 is IS in the observation of our environment, is very disturbing, one is concerned to make it a political ideological bent and the other a financial economical one,and the twain can not meet or agree on it. I think the two are responsible not only the left in making it an argument and not for it to be a honest scientific discussion and evaluation. As today it it not only a question of environment but DNA application and its effect on us.
@Obamaluke The question is if it is Man made warming or is Man contributing to it and is it significant or is it not a significant contribution. .. but the warming is happening. The political argument from the left as well as from the right , are bull.
The question is often asked, "Is the word in the Declaration of Independence unalienable or is it inalienable?"
The final version of the Declaration uses the word "unalienable." Some earlier drafts used the word "inalienable," which is the term our modern dictionaries prefer. The two words mean precisely the same thing.
@Obamaluke if there was no atmosphere, the Earth would be a gas cloud. The Sun heats to death , the space cools to death; and the Earth warms to life. And that is how it is with a God that is a God of the living. in balance with the impossible , and so it is possible .
@MrLettuceguy Global Warming is factual process where Carbon Dioxide absorbs heat that would otherwise escape into space. It stops are planet from becoming a frozen wasteland but clearly more CO2 leads more absorbtion. We are obviously putting more CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. So saying something as stupid as "GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!! WAKE UP!!" is rediculous because not even scientific sceptics of climate change argue against global warming only the extent of its effects.
@mancno1 I'm not trying to say that climate change isn't happening because it has for the past 4 billion years! I am saying that humans co2 emissions have little to no effect on global temperature. Weather Action.com, Science and Public Policy.org, Climate Depot.org. The great global warming swindle - Full version
@MrLettuceguy Look if your only sources are ClimateChangeIsCrap.ect then that's what you're going to find. Even small increases in CO2 increase ica cap melting (H2O)and marsh evaporation (CH4) and since water vapour and methane are greenhouse gases this just drives a positive feedback cycle caused by human CO2 emissions. Although there is no real solution to this we can slow it down a little without to much damage to our economy by reducing wastage energy.
@mancno1 Your right lets pay Al Gore money and this will all go away. Lets trust false computer models and give "mother earth" rights in a "green court". Humans are scum anyway who needs them. Lets stop the evil co2(which is plant food) from ever harming anyone again. Al Gore says the polar bears are dying so it must be true!!!!!
@MrLettuceguy LOL WTF??? Al Gore twists the science as bad as most of you denialists do (yes denialists, that's what you become when your skeptical in the face of overwhelming evidence) False computer models, what the one's that have correctly been predicting polar ice meltage for the last 30 years. And where are you getting the rest of these rediculous straw men from because they're not even remotely what I said.
@mancno1 Did you know there have been times in our earths history that there has been 10x the co2 in that we have now and the polar bears did just fine.
@mancno1 Here is the real simulation of how ice expands and decreases from summer-winter, during changes in earth tilts. Its not like they're supposed to be there forever, but to say it is because of us is not supported by any evidence directly and is highly conceited.
In fact many ice caps are GAINING ice, instead of losing.
@twizelby That is irrelevant because they're melting anyways. Generally, earth is going through a warm-up naturally after the last ice age, then after some tens of thousand years it will cool off again and plunge into an ice age. That is what has been happening for billions of years. Its not like that ice MUST be there forever. We do contribute to the CO2 level, not denying it. BUT NOT IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY to cause a catastrophic climate change.
@luckyStrike89ru warmth and melting has never come at this rate. the only other time that the ice caps melted was during the permian extinction. the problem is that ice causes deep water convection currents that transport much needed nutrients throughout the ocean. when we talk about numbers its important to note large changes can be caused by seemingly small amounts of something. take for example food dye in water or maybe someone putting arsenic in a taco.
@twizelby Yes, since it is contributing, it does increase the rate of warm up. But not to such extent that would cause the earth to burn up. Think on the scale of 100s of years, that is insignificant. The point is that we dont have to be aggressive and all doomsday-ie about it like for example Al Gore is. It wont kill off our species.
@luckyStrike89ru it probably wont kill off our species but it wont be comfortable either. im not sure why you think anyone is saying that the earth will burn up. I am also not sure what your point about 100's of years is either. the prediction is that the next generation will suffer worse then ours so maybe 100 yrs. It is important to note that I am not advertising a solution and that I dont endorse a hypocrite like Gore. im strictly talking about the science..
@luckyStrike89ru no actually canada will be a safe haven. however places like bolivia and texas and small island countries wont be so great. basicly anyone near the equitorial line will have a series of unfortunate things
@twizelby Yes, but again, unfortunate things like natural disasters happen all the time. They have always happened. The best we can do is predict such disasters with our technology like hurricanes or floods and evacuate people, thats what preparedness is. Thats what we humans excel at. But cutting some carbon emissions, banning plastic bags, driving electric cars would save them? Come on, lets be realistic here. It should remain a choice.
@luckyStrike89ru why would you choose to increase your impact with doing nothing to change your lifestyle? at the very least we could choose to save ourselves some money by using reusable bags and driving less. also I never talked about banning plastic bags or anything.
@twizelby Wrong. I dont want to increase impact. I just want to keep driving my car and drinking out of plastic bottles, because thats comfortable for me. I want to keep my lifestyle as it is. In supermarkets bags come free, so I dont see how I would save money on that. Maybe in socialist nations, lol.
@luckyStrike89ru if you used reusable bags then the company wouldnt have to charge you for the profit lost by buying those plastic bags. what does socialism have to do with climate change itself? public policy has no value in science.
@twizelby Also, you should know that we all and animals produce CO2 when we fart or even breathe, the tree even use CO2 to produces Oxygen. Its all in the cycle of life or should the billions of animals and humans on this earth breathe less now to save our beloved earth from certain destruction? Come on now!
@luckyStrike89ru so burning fossil fuels, which btw have a unique chemical signature, is part of that natural cycle? these are all strawman arguments and red herring arguments that you are giving
@luckyStrike89ru factory C02 is not part of the natural cycle therfore C02 is in addition to the natural cycle that life evolved in. burning fossil fuels is indeed part of our daily life and yes solar energy is ineficient. that doesnt give you an excuse not to improve something or lessen environemental impact through daily routine.
@twizelby Improvements to technologies are made all the time. But we still have to emit CO2, if not then we must resort to something else and what would that be? I dont realistically see it grow by a whole lot in terms of fossil fuel burning, it might've reached its maximum in the US. Or people could plant more trees, I dont know.... But I see the cutting of fossil fuels as having a much profound effect on peoples' health then "saving the world".
@twizelby In order to make all the environmentalists warm and fuzzy inside we would have to cut all of the CO2 emissions, meaning cut all 3% of all earth co2 emissions, FOR WHAT? You seriously expect all hurricanes and floods to stop or decrease in intensity and ice caps would stop melting? Yes, the industrial age HAS warmed up the temperatures but to such a degree that you cant even feel it. To me weather has been the same unpredictability in NYC since I was born in 89.
@twizelby Burning fossil fuels is part of our life if you want technology and energy. We must have it. Because solar energy is inefficient in a general sense. We will always be burning fossil fuels.
@twizelby And by how much would you cut carbon emissions worldwide to feel "comfortable" in the next 100 years? We cant ban completely, we'd go back to the stone age.
@luckyStrike89ru like I said im not giving solutions im strictly talking about what I know. if I had to take a guess as to what will happen I think we wont do much until 1st world countries are hit and at that point there is talk of various solutions that I dont know much about like putting sulfates into the atmosphere to shield us from the sun. give me a second to watch your video.
@twizelby I mean, you know how many fuckups can happen to our planet? They can come from outer space like asteroids that are 50 or more miles wide that would annihilate EVERYTHING on earth like the one that happened 65 million years ago, we just dont know but we as humans can prepare. Humans or no humans earth right now would still be warming up and those ice caps melting.
@luckyStrike89ru the ways in which we can be obliterated are inumerous but thats not an excuse to ignore a problem. its like saying we shouldnt deal with gunshot victims because eventually old age will take them."we as humans can prepare" yes we can and thats the issue at hand how do we prepare ourselves. again the ice caps wouldnt be melting at the rate which we currently see them and they wouldnt melt completely unless something like a massive asteroid caused greenhse effects
@luckyStrike89ru im not sure what the video has to do with global warming either. what is impresive about size and the earth is that if you look at a globe and you maped the globes atmosphere it would be the width of the paint on the globe. pretty crazy huh
@luckyStrike89ru if we are going to debate this I try to keep things civil. so far you havent said anything offensive or anything so I appreciate that.
@luckyStrike89ru Erm what is your point, the video covers less than a 2 year span, Its hardly going to show the effect of global warming. compare the september 1970 satellite images to sep 2010 ones and you'll see the 30% decrease in north atlantic ice, to the point where ships can sail over the top of canada in the summer.
"In fact many ice caps are GAINING ice, instead of losing" In fact all ice caps are gaining ice, but most are just losing it at a faster rate.
@mancno1 I just wanted to show you how they falsify their data. The usual physical "proof" that shows a 1979 north pole ice sheet and then comparing it to 2003 which shows ice shrinkage. 1979 was taken during winter months when that part of the world is farthest from the sun. And the 2003 was taken during the summer months in the northern hemisphere..... EASY to scare the shit out of people. They have to show a time lapse to prove their point. Showing us then and now makes no sense.
@luckyStrike89ru What are you talking about??? According to the source (NASA) Both images were generated using a 3 year moving average over both of the time periods. They were both taken at the sea ice minimum level in september. And show a 9.6% decrease per decade. So where are you getting the impression that the 1979 images were taken in the winter?
@mancno1 We dont even know what season they were taken in. The video I showed is how it really happens during the season change, thats 2009. All in the same year. Other simplistic images of NASA which are used by the so called "experts", they show a 1979 photo and a 2003 photo and say "look, the ice decreased" with just giving the year without even stating what season it is. When in the summer they do melt and later make up that lost ice in winter months.
@luckyStrike89ru Again I repeat where are you getting the impression that the 1979 images were taken in the winter?? The source says "sea ice minimum level" for both images in that year. Thats obviously not going to be in the winter. And since when was almost 10% a decade "slowly melting"
@mancno1 "Erm what is your point, the video covers less than a 2 year span, Its hardly going to show the effect of global warming"- Wrong as you can see, during the winter months it looks exactly the same as the one taken in 1979 by Nasa.
@MrLettuceguy I say CO2 is a greenhouse gas you say "evil CO2". I say we should improve efficiency by reducing wastage you say "green court" and "Humans are scum"
Don't waste my time by addressing arguments that I never made.
@mancno1 The ice caps are melting at a very slow rate, they have been for awhile. But the big quantities lost are usually made up during the winter solstice. The 3% additional percent of human CO2 emissions dont have any real effect on the melting of ice caps. They would still be melting WITHOUT human emissions. Anyways, why even give a fuck about the ice caps, why are they so precious to us? Ocean levels would only increase at a HIGH rate of melting. Now, its not the case AT ALL.
@MrLettuceguy all you have to do is start with the movie you mentioned, look up criticism of the movie, it's littered with lies and misleading statements, but don't take my word for it, seriously look at the criticisms for yourself. you'll see why manco1 is quick to discredit your sources.
What's your point? are you trying to tell me that i don't know global warming is a hoax or are you just a random fucking troll??.....
And yeah they put on informational TV programs for people to learn about new things....why don't you tune into it? because you sound like you figured the sun out.
Did you know the sun will set off a huge solar storm around 2012 which might disrupt our power? i bet you didn't....
You're a 14 year old idiot for calling other people retarded when you don't read.
Animals do give off Co2 but i am talking the fucking micro-organisms which rise above from the deep parts of the ocean to collect the Co2...i dont fucking know how it works... i saw documentary on NatGEO
And thanks dumb ass for telling me the sun warms the earth....
Co2 is what plants breathe and according to geologists and scientists
there are more plants on earth than cars today and plus the microbes in the ocean absorb Co2 as well sinking it down to the bottom i suppose to support plant life there as well?
India is one of the polluted countries on the planet and yet the temperature has remained the same way for centuries
RT as seen here in this video shows is a good news form, reporting news as it is and not as Fox in total disregard to truth and is a propagandist of the 1% to the 99%. [ Go RT! show it as it is! ].
@Obamaluke The Sun is Hot and burns all things up. It is the Earth that keeps the Hot out and the Cold in , in a balance so as to prompt life on Earth to be, or it will be not. The Earth is what warms the Earth not the Sun. When you look up in the morning you see the SUN thru the atmosphere that balances the HOT from the SUN and COLD from the empty space that is with in , between the atoms in the material world.
one thing is true, and that is when expert witnesses contradict them selfs in a court of law , something is wrong and corrupt. and needs a French Revolution (French: Révolution française; 1789–1799),;sustained assault from radical left-wing political groups,[aristocracy and religious authority were abruptly overthrown by new Enlightenment principles of equality,citizenship and inalienable rights]. The 1% is infringing on the 99%'s inalienable rights financially and economically in the US.
This is old, debunked news. Several reviews showed no wrongdoing, only irritation on the part of scientists with the flat-Earth/anti-conservation crowd.
The latest releases of more stolen emails (in a sleazy attempt to influence the Durban conference) were dismissed, as they should have been originally.
You people need to find another tactic, like dealing with the full context of the evidence and ditching your petty crusade to waste even more fossil fuels in the name of "growth."
The potential for AGW via CO2 was understood 150 years ago in studies of the greenhouse effect; see Tyndall 1859 & Arrhenius 1896. In the 1930s & 1950s CO2's effects were confirmed.
Denial only kicked in when action was called for. It's typical human nature to favor short-term money over the common good. But the core motives for AGW denial aren't even rational. Why anyone would NOT want to conserve (peaking) oil reserves to stretch future supplies is a mystery. Conservation wins on all counts.
@kapwns I'm not trying to say that climate change isn't happening because it has for the past 4 billion years! I am saying that humans co2 emissions have little to no effect on global temperature. Weather Action.com, Science and Public Policy.org, Climate Depot.org. The great global warming swindle - Full version
to hide the decline referred to treerings showing smaller as they had to be due to acid rain in industrial parts in eastern europe , they had to use an trick to hide this because it would not show actual climate date that where available for that time.
Everytime someones claims something ask for recources then take time to examine it , that way is the only way to know the truth then just assume quotes as thruth without examing it because it fits what you want to believe
Born Jonathan Leibowitz, Stewart was raised by a Jewish family in New York City. He and his older brother, Larry, who is currently Chief Operating Officer of NYSE Euronext (parent company of the New York Stock Exchange). This is why John Stewart pushed a carbon exchange market, he is a self centered opportunist. Stupid Americans.
Climate related news, for those interested only please..
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Observing deforestation from space
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Global climate change can now be observed from space.
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation launched a new technology that can survey the world’s forests via satellites and provide a more accurate, global picture of common threats to the environment, such as deforestation, degradation or illegal logging.
@SixFootTallMIdget How exactly does the "global warming hoax" destroy america and why are american Climatologists doing it. And since when was america the only place in the world that stands in the way of tyranny, British troops are also in Afghanistan and the UN dealt with Libya.
I'm still puzzled at how you got. Scientists observe we contribute to climate change = Scientists are lying and trying to destroy america
@mancno1 Well you see Big Oil has done its most finest job at filling the minds of the (less educated) public, through the media mostly, that science should be ignored and ridiculed. lol. People Like their SUV's i guess.
but really it comes down to the physics of thermal radiation and how it is affected by a molecule such as CO2. That carbon is what makes the molecule absorb and re-emit thermal radiation projected from the earth. You really need more than 200 characters to talk about it....
@BTsmoke Yh you're right all we want is to damage are economy by creating extra costs for firms that they pass on to their consumers so that everyone is worse off and jobs are cut to save money. Whilst countries such as China with lax pollution laws receive more investment from companies that could have gone to western countries. MMUHAHAHAHA
But seriously nobody benefits from this so why would anyone lie about it.
Politicians are ALL fraudsters 99.9% and not to be believe anymore than Lawyers turned Judges, all from similar backgrounds = Non working class. Wake up sheeple !!!
What I would suggest is this: Suppose there is this man-made global warming deal. OK. The more I am convinced the more I will vote for DEregulation, less taxes on big oil and increased capitalism. This is where energy-efficient innovations come from.
..........I believe the CO2 warming fraud is all about bringing the oil companies to their knees, every leftie, uni student and frustrated faliures wet dream?
@troy9999999999 ... ya you are just pulling this out of your ass. Please PLEASE speak with experts on the matter. Climatologist - Paleoclimatoligists, and so on before you come to your own conclusion
@TheWenaus No, you please. This video is from a Russian news organization that plants propoganda against the United States. You're taking your facts from them? really?
@troy9999999999 Oh this video is a joke, its clearly not the end of the world we are worried about lol. I hadnt even watched it all in fact - i was only interested in the (youtube) publics comments on the subject of global warming.
I get my facts from scientific data generally :) Iv taken a number a courses on global climate/atmospheric science/biology and botany. But really you only need a little education on the subject and it can realy open your eyes to the potential threats
Climategate amounted to nothing in terms of scientific misconduct. People who don't follow this stuff carefully need to understand that. "Where there's smoke there's fire" is a general maxim the average person often relies on - and so it's a maxim often abused by those seeking to deceive the average person.
It amounted to ZERO, NOTHING, NADA, in terms of scientific misconduct. It was just a bunch of context-removed sinister sounding sentences cherry-picked from over a thousand private emails.
@mercanaries3 Yeah but since rainforests are being cut down they be less trees and anyways I believe plants and trees are not aware of what they are doing
@mercanaries3 Not unless you destroy the seed the plant can't grow the best evidence I can give you are look at the amount of active tropical cyclone seasons in the atlantic ocean last decade and look how many reached major hurricane status (cat 3, 4 or 5)
@mercanaries3 Thats unless you cut them down on a fast rate and anyways climate change is real the planet has done so ever since the begining of our solar system theres many evidence to support the idea of global warming kind of like there is enough evidence to suggest that ice ages are real also tropical cyclone seasons have become more active lately with the last decade having active seasons due to the warming of oceans the intense flooding
@mercanaries3 the melting of glaciers at a much faster rate then normal. An increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are also due to global warming due to the rate of glaciers in the north and south pole compressing the earths crust and the melting resulting in the earths crust coming back to normal can generate heightened earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Here in ireland we had very cold winters from the last two years that possibly have resulted from
@mercanaries3 global warming being a contributing factor. Many Climatologists believe in global warming. Climate Change has been seen in many other planets too. Also CO2 ain't the only greenhouse gas thats been rising theres methane and so on. Also as ice reflects sunrays and water absorbs sunrays due to being conductive resulting in a a further rise in sea temperature. Droughts, desertification and famines are all part of global warming
@mercanaries3 Heavy snowstorms, blizzards, Nor-easters, etc can also be attributed to global warming as it causes heavy precipation. Also I find people who don't believe in global warming are stubborn, careless people the same way I view people who think we shouldn't protect endangered animals and plants because they have been going extinct all the time
Next on the agenda: debunking the Evolution and Gravity Hoaxes.
DrRobDammet 1 day ago
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NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record
According to NOAA scientists, 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year of the global surface temperature record, beginning in 1880. This was the 34th ...
NASA - NASA Finds 2011 Ninth Warmest Year on Record
The difference between 2011 and the warmest year in the GISS record (2010) is 0.22 degrees F (0.12 C).
livingproofof 1 day ago
All this carbon tax that has been conned out of you by your goverments. Maybe the world is warming up, maybe its not, but if it is warming up,, its not mans fault! This is a total myth! Your goverments have been waiting for years to find a new way to tax and order you around. I am no expert but I have spoken to and listened to experts on global warming. And the results are , YOUR GOVERMENTS ARE CONNING YOU!
TheBoHoBoy 2 days ago
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So human pollution isn't affecting the planet at all ?
How come GWD's are all teabaggers, conspiracy nuts, religious fanatics or laissez-faire capitalists ?
KrazyKonspiracyKult 5 days ago
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KrazyKonspiracyKult 5 days ago
I don't expect you sheeple to believe in global warming. Most of you can't even locate Mexico on a map. It'll take something terrible to happen for you people to wake up.
MrNocomment13 6 days ago
Ignorance.... Of course the sun drives climate change. But it is NOT the only factor. For the past few thousand years the climate has followed the sun and Pacific ocilation. But for the past 60 years or so the sun has gon down... but out climate has gone up... why is that? As for the private emails.. you should actually red those because there is only 2 or 3 that seem damning at first, but if you read them in context they don't mean what you think it means.
kilroy227 1 week ago
ITS THE SUN YOU IDIOTS - ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE SUNS FAULT - ITS FUNNY WE HEARD THE OTHER DAY THE WORDS FOUR HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD? WHAT? THERE WAS HARDLY ENOUGH CO2 OR COAL DUST BACK 400 YEARS TO BE MANS FAULT SO WHY SAY MAN HAS DONE THIS? MAN HAS NOT DONE THIS , ITS THE SUN LOOK IT UP!
nutbagbrew102 1 week ago
which is absolute nonsense since we could EASILY afford to pay to conserve, cut emissions, etc. How is a $14 Trillion economy going to "go under" just b/c we curb emissions even in the slightest?
You mean screw up our economy like the way the big banks did? There's no way that cutting emissions and supporting alternative energy could POSSIBLY make our economy any worse off than the bankers did in 2008.
whoo689 2 weeks ago
REAL scientific websites that show the objective facts all say that global warming exists. The only ones DOUBTING it are right-wing ones with an obvious bias and agenda. Their agenda is to protect Big Oil, energy companies, etc. etc. and keep us from properly regulating them for our health and safety keeps them from seeing the big picture. They'd rather we KEEP POLLUTING and make things worse because of this propaganda about how taking steps to curb CO2 emissions will "screw up our econ"
whoo689 2 weeks ago
that ALL of the world's scientists who've confirmed AGW over and over are "lying" and that it's just a giant 'hoax'?
Get real, deniers. AGW is REAL, and you need to accept that fact or GTFO of here and leave the science and politics to the grownups. It's no surprise that most deniers are probably very conservative and anti-science on many OTHER things, like stem cells, origins of the universe, etc. They're probably highly religious, too.
whoo689 2 weeks ago
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@whoo689 I don't expect you sheeple to believe in global warming. Most of you can't even locate Mexico on a map. It'll take something terrible to happen for you people to wake up.
MrNocomment13 6 days ago
So-called "climategate" was much ado about NOTHING! 3 independent investigations from Britain itself all confirmed this. They didn't much of anything damning, to be quite honest. But Fox News, what with its clear right-wing denier agenda, had a FIELD DAY with a handful of "revealing" quotes from these emails, many of the statements taken out of context.
Besides, even IF a few hundred scientists supposedly all conspired to LIE about global warming at ONE university, how does that 'prove'
whoo689 2 weeks ago
To think that all of these CO2 emissions had NO EFFECT (or even a 'cooling' effect) is just the dumbest thing ever. What PLANET are these deniers from?? So everyone who says AGW "isn't real" is telling THE WHOLE TRUTH and isn't paid or bought in the slightest by, say, an energy company or think-tank?
Whereas ALL the people, especially the scientists who've actually done their own independent research and experimentation, are "lying" just to get grant money and whatnot? Dear god
whoo689 2 weeks ago
@whoo689 It's all about Cap and Trade you idiot. All that money goes to the IMF and there will be a bunch of Jews trading in carbons futures, it will be a way bigger scam than Wall Street. Wake up!
AngryWhiteGoy 2 days ago
If the global warming deniers ADMIT that they were wrong and that AGW is REAL and something of a threat to mankind, then they will HAVE to go about discussing real ways to fight it! They can't dodge THAT issue. But they CAN if they can convince enough people that "anthropogenic global warming isn't real."
Oh, please... Do you have ANY IDEA how much shit we've polluted into the air (let alone just CO2) in the past 150+ years? How could it NOT have some effect on shit like global temperature
whoo689 2 weeks ago
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A number of independent investigations from different countries, universities and government bodies have investigated the stolen emails and found no evidence of wrong doing. Focusing on a few suggestive emails, taken out of context, merely serves to distract from the wealth of empirical evidence for man-made global warming.
checkyoursources 2 weeks ago
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More evidence/impacts of climate change series..
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Mandatory emissions reporting decision could be delayed further in the UK
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Rules requiring companies to report on their greenhouse gas emissions look set to be delayed until later this year due to a bottleneck in the government's legislative process. .
London Business Green, United Kingdom
4 January 2012
Nightversionn 3 weeks ago
global warming is a hoax...deal with it....watch Glen Beck's videos and you will see
EdmundsB0 3 weeks ago
@EdmundsB0 - is that supposed to be ironic? k.y.
NWOareScum 3 weeks ago
@NWOareScum you again...are u following me? gross!
EdmundsB0 3 weeks ago
@EdmundsB0 - paedo you're the same scumbag with the 1000000s of channels, so no, of course i wasn't following you. i merely noticed your comment here about beck is the complete opposite of what you posted about him elsewhere - where you showed up, to stalk me, as usual.
kill yourself schizo freak.
NWOareScum 3 weeks ago
Climate change is not a conspiracy, its a natural cycle and has always been known as such both in the scientific community and publicly. However, what humanity has done is 'amplify' it as I was taught and as which is correct. Cutting down forests. pumping out smoke and smog from factories and cars, over population, pollution of water, air and land are all very bad things and are all due to humanity. We made things worse, its only right and smart that we fix things.
CaveStoryChannel 3 weeks ago
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MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
if you believe climate change is a hoax, you have to be one uniformed, ignorant fool at this point. the climategate crap was an epic fail for you deniers and even minimal research can demonstrate this, but i guess if nuts like alex jones say it, it must be true.
kapwns 1 month ago
@kapwns Give us proof you arrogant eco loon. The Sane know that our Sun caused past warming.
david222444 4 weeks ago
@david222444 i can pm you links to studies, you obviously aren't looking at the data for yourself.
great the sun caused past warming but it's demonstrably not responsible for current warming. we're coming out of a record solar minimum, in fact solar activity has been flat in recent decades while global temperatures have risen. temperatures continue to rise at night & areas of the planet that get the faintest sunlight, so even where solar effects are weakest we see change. nice try
kapwns 4 weeks ago
@kapwns So therefore a tiny amount of harmless trace gas, heavier than air and essential to life on the Planet drives the climate, don't be silly. Maybe you should look into Svensmarks work. Have you heard of the Oceans? They store heat you know and cover the majority of the Planet. So you think you can demostrate that the Sun did not cause the past warming? lol Can you proove Co2 had any influence on the climate? Arrogance, ignorance and no sense of proportion.
david222444 4 weeks ago
@david222444 harmless? try breathing it. yeah a "tiny amount", but it has a big effect.ive looked into svensmarks work & criticisms of it. for someone so confident in his work he fears replication. your ocean claim doesn't account for the rise of temperatures that correlate with human activity & a rise in co2 levels
where did i say i could demonstrate that? o i didn't, read again.
i can cite studies that demonstrate co2 has an affect on climate. your ad hominems describe yourself
kapwns 4 weeks ago
@kapwns Its a friggin industry now: Electric, hybrid cars industry, carbon credit companies, carbon tax etc etc. Its intermingled with politics to the point where if someone denies it publically is equated with a holocaust denier or a racist, have you people lost your god damn mind? We're insignificant to cause any real changes in our climate. The climate is always changing, WE CANT CHANGE IT, its out of our hands.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru that's all after the fact and an entirely different issue. just because we don't like how the politicians and corporations handle the facts or what they do with them, doesn't mean we can solve them by denying the facts. rather we should be pushing for better policy, rather than kicking a dead horse.
um we can't change the climate? that's like saying i don't need to clean my apartment cuz no one person is too messy, it's not like the contributions add up lol.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
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@kapwns "um we can't change the climate? that's like saying i don't need to clean my apartment cuz no one person is too messy, it's not like the contributions add up lol."
-What kind of an analogy is that? In order for us to change such a celestial body's climate you have to change the sun OR blast 10,000 nuclear weapons all at once. There you go.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru so then you agree with me, that your original statement in all caps no less, "we can't change it", is wrong. sorry you don't understand the analogy but you agree any way so. there ya go.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns I mean we can change it in terms of "if hell freezes over" because we cant realistically change the sun or nuke ourselves unless we're all suicidal lol.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@kapwns "rather we should be pushing for better policy, rather than kicking a dead horse."- uh.... NO, we shouldnt. Politicians have no right to start making people pay for carbon credits when they drive a gas guzzler, or jail a person for drinking out of a glass bottle based on an unproven hoax that's just a scheme to make money and tax more shit out of people. No thanks. Right now, it should be a choice until REAL scientists have a consensus on direct proof of man made climate change.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru again you are trying to mix 2 issues. i don't agree with a lot of things you mention either, that doesn't mean i, instead, try to deny climate change. the things you list are dramatically hyperbolic anyway.
real scientists do have a consensus on climate change and it being significantly affected by human activity. it's only people like alex jones and fox news that want you to think otherwise.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns I dont deny climate change... I know its warming up. But its a natural warm up. Not all scientists have agreement on man-caused global warming. What you said is just isnt true.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@kapwns How was climategate a fail? Btw did you now there was a climategate 2.0 recently?
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy b/c "mike's trick" doesn't refer to faked data. the comment section is too short, but if you'd like i can pm you some links or even easier a video that explains it in the necessary detail. i can also send info on the movie you mentioned below, tho i still recommend looking into it for yourself as well so you know i'm not jus feeding you biased sources
are you referring to the cern study? i don't exactly what you are referring to, but if you could elaborate, i might.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
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MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy i did tho, i said because "mike's trick" doesn't refer to faked data, i'll pm you some videos (save you the reading) on the matter.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns I have read about the movie recently. But the links proving that climategate was a "fail" would be greatly appreciated.
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy working on it now, there's 3 i have in mind that explain the details very well.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns ok thanks. you can check out Piers Morgan and Weather action.com for some info on the other side of global warming. I just have a question, do you agree with carbon taxes?
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy no thank you, for keeping an open enough mind to at least see the other side.
it depends on what you mean by carbon taxes exactly. i think if we have to tax anyone it should be those that profit from polluting over a certain amount & really only to try to encourage a "greener" business, but i think that'd fail anyway.
also there's the issue of what is going to be done with the money & how to justify it going there. i haven't heard anything i'd support, so far.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns Oh ok. My issue with global warming is this; co2 on its own is not bad. The volcanoes on this earth produce more co2 than all human activity combined. obviously we disagree on the co2 point but the thing is that people are being taken advantage of and in some cases harmed. Did you know a British carbon tax company sent "green police" to Uganda and forced farmers to leave their land and if they resisted they were shot in the name of planting trees there to create a carbon sink?
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy
That's complete crap. Volcanoes DO NOT produce more CO2 than what mankind produces. It's easily found on Google at reputable (science based) web sites, not some pseudo-expert denier web site like Infowars feeding you helpings of fear porn. You cite a myth perpetrated by reality deniers serving as puppets of the energy companie$, who don't want you to understand what's happening because it would hurt their profits and shatter the crumbling illusion of oil being plentiful and cheap.
frededison 2 weeks ago
@frededison Exactly! I googled the stupid-ass volcano claim a few months ago, and I immediately found out that volcanoes have produced at least 120 times MORE CO2 than mankind has ever! Where do these deniers come up with this crap?
Folks who keep claiming global warming "isn't real" or is "nothing to worry about" are just covering for the fact that they're too 'pro-business' to favor any REAL solutions taken by gov't to curb emissions! The right-wingers are being 'preemptive' here.
whoo689 2 weeks ago
@whoo689
In the history of the Earth volcanoes may have ruled, but certainly within the last century (industrial revolution onset) mankind has far outproduced volcanoes (120 times is a fair average) in releasing the greenhouse gas CO2/carbon dioxide. I simply don't understand how those who refute science always manage to find 'one more thing' to blame the artificial and exceedingly rapid warming upon, when the whole time they only needed to look all around their environment for clues.
frededison 2 weeks ago
Your unrelenting belief in the joke known as "Global Warming" proves to me there is a gaping hole of nothingness that is your existence. It’s a wonder that your soul, so scarred by inadequacies, presses on nonetheless. I toast your persistence, sir.
label1877 1 week ago
@kapwns Only an idiot would think that we humans have a significant effect on the global climate. Its our sun that causes and it always did, our planet went through so many climate changes and crazy shit even before humans were humans. Temperatures fluctuate all the time. It has nothing to do with us. Without CO2, our planet would freeze to death. Only 3% of all the released CO2 into the atmosphere is human caused. We can see a hoax when there is one. And its also a good money scam.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru nobody's arguing we should make it our mission to eliminate all co2 on earth except you. that 3% makes a big difference, it's becoming apparent its 3% more than the earth can normally take in and its effects are starting to show.
can you demonstrate this hoax or just claim it?
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns Apparent in what? Hurricanes and floods? Natural occurrences that have been happening since earth was formed and in much bigger scales than today. This whole man caused global warming bullshit feeds off that- showing images of freak floods and hurricanes and start connecting it to our CO2 levels with the most remote connections ever and then try to act all smug about it.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru record temperature extremes(most prominent in places unaffected by the sun), sea level rise, and yes, even increased intensity of things like "freak" floods and hurricanes.
you seem to have a rather black and white view on the matter here, i can accept that climate change is man made without taking the position that it's effects are extreme as you think.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns have you ever looked at how much volume of ice is lost on the poles? when you see videos of ice sheets over time you see a little bit of loss through the last couple of years but the volume is what is important. if you look at research regarding ice depth the amount of loss is massive. think about an iceberg and how much of it is underwater then think about cubic ft vs ft.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@kapwns How do you even calculate "increased intensity" of floods and hurricanes? Compared to what? There are hurricanes rolling around in the middle of oceans all the time. There are big, there are small. How does it depend on us? Oh gee, there is CO2 in it, then it MUST be us. I'm not being black and white, I'm just trying to be realistic.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru you can look at the intensity and frequency of hurricanes and quickly see that added warmth to the ocean increases both. science is realistic not humans
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Exactly, which is why they happen during the summer months in the northern hemisphere. I live in New York and we had this hurricane Irene come, all of the "experts" said it will be category 2-3 when it reaches NYC, it wasnt even cat 1 when it reached. People ran away to higher grounds, all there was was some sprinkles. And it was a hot summer. Same with Katrina, although opposite. So dont rely on "experts" so much.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru scientists dont look at individual days they look at long trends just because it snows hard one day doesnt predict anything about future winters
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Right, we cant predict everything. And thats why we dont need politicians effing us over with taxes on made up, or falsified information. Because I know where this is headed. This whole saving the earth thing will turn into fines and other crap against people that drive gas cars, smoke etc etc. Thats why I dont like it. Everything turns into politics in this day and age. I personally see it as a choice, its up to you.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru well thats great, but we arent talking about politics, we are talking about science so unless you have an argument regarding anything related to science then I guess this conversation is over.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby I'm tying in science as well, dont worry about that ;)
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@kapwns Why do you guys always have to call us Fox news watchers? Is that like an insult? Oh gee, you watch MSNBC and Bill Maher and RT, you're a leftist loon, har har har.
Dont act like a child.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@kapwns But, I'm gonna say this, yes those emissions like fossil fuel burning in China that burn buttloads of coal are bad, for people. They create health risks. I dont condone it, but I'm not ready to call it criminal.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru i call you fox news watcher & alex jones cultists b/c the majority of the arguments made saw their introduction into this casual rhetoric thru those sources.
ok so at what point, would, you call something like the emissions from fossil fuel burning in china criminal?
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@kapwns I dont know what Fox news watchers debate, but I bet it has something to do with Jesus. I'm not like that. I believe more in science. The man made global warming thing is just a hoax veiled as science. There are many professional documentaries that just say its flat our wrong and false data that serves special political interests. And its VERY easy to sway the public with emotional power point presentations impending DOOM!
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@Obamaluke but to have two experts argue over what 1+1 is IS in the observation of our environment, is very disturbing, one is concerned to make it a political ideological bent and the other a financial economical one,and the twain can not meet or agree on it. I think the two are responsible not only the left in making it an argument and not for it to be a honest scientific discussion and evaluation. As today it it not only a question of environment but DNA application and its effect on us.
korz53 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
okay not funny....
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke The question is if it is Man made warming or is Man contributing to it and is it significant or is it not a significant contribution. .. but the warming is happening. The political argument from the left as well as from the right , are bull.
korz53 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
Jefferson's handwriting Parchment copy
The question is often asked, "Is the word in the Declaration of Independence unalienable or is it inalienable?"
The final version of the Declaration uses the word "unalienable." Some earlier drafts used the word "inalienable," which is the term our modern dictionaries prefer. The two words mean precisely the same thing.
ushistory org/declaration/unalienable.htm
korz53 1 month ago
@Obamaluke if there was no atmosphere, the Earth would be a gas cloud. The Sun heats to death , the space cools to death; and the Earth warms to life. And that is how it is with a God that is a God of the living. in balance with the impossible , and so it is possible .
korz53 1 month ago
@Obamaluke unalienable |ˌənˈālyənəbəl; -ˈālēə-|
adjective another term for inalienable. Look as you can't. When correcting , be sure your are correct first.
korz53 1 month ago
@MrLettuceguy Global Warming is factual process where Carbon Dioxide absorbs heat that would otherwise escape into space. It stops are planet from becoming a frozen wasteland but clearly more CO2 leads more absorbtion. We are obviously putting more CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. So saying something as stupid as "GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!! WAKE UP!!" is rediculous because not even scientific sceptics of climate change argue against global warming only the extent of its effects.
mancno1 1 month ago
@mancno1 I'm not trying to say that climate change isn't happening because it has for the past 4 billion years! I am saying that humans co2 emissions have little to no effect on global temperature. Weather Action.com, Science and Public Policy.org, Climate Depot.org. The great global warming swindle - Full version
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy Look if your only sources are ClimateChangeIsCrap.ect then that's what you're going to find. Even small increases in CO2 increase ica cap melting (H2O)and marsh evaporation (CH4) and since water vapour and methane are greenhouse gases this just drives a positive feedback cycle caused by human CO2 emissions. Although there is no real solution to this we can slow it down a little without to much damage to our economy by reducing wastage energy.
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 Your right lets pay Al Gore money and this will all go away. Lets trust false computer models and give "mother earth" rights in a "green court". Humans are scum anyway who needs them. Lets stop the evil co2(which is plant food) from ever harming anyone again. Al Gore says the polar bears are dying so it must be true!!!!!
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy LOL WTF??? Al Gore twists the science as bad as most of you denialists do (yes denialists, that's what you become when your skeptical in the face of overwhelming evidence) False computer models, what the one's that have correctly been predicting polar ice meltage for the last 30 years. And where are you getting the rest of these rediculous straw men from because they're not even remotely what I said.
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 Did you know there have been times in our earths history that there has been 10x the co2 in that we have now and the polar bears did just fine.
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
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@MrLettuceguy "10x the co2 in that we have now and the polar bears did just fine."
Please do share your source on this gem. When was the last time we had x10 CO2 in the atmosphere other than during the recovery of an Ice Age?
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 Here is the real simulation of how ice expands and decreases from summer-winter, during changes in earth tilts. Its not like they're supposed to be there forever, but to say it is because of us is not supported by any evidence directly and is highly conceited.
In fact many ice caps are GAINING ice, instead of losing.
watch?v=XKskfZD7wNM
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru you arent taking into account volume cubic feet are much different then feet
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby That is irrelevant because they're melting anyways. Generally, earth is going through a warm-up naturally after the last ice age, then after some tens of thousand years it will cool off again and plunge into an ice age. That is what has been happening for billions of years. Its not like that ice MUST be there forever. We do contribute to the CO2 level, not denying it. BUT NOT IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY to cause a catastrophic climate change.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru warmth and melting has never come at this rate. the only other time that the ice caps melted was during the permian extinction. the problem is that ice causes deep water convection currents that transport much needed nutrients throughout the ocean. when we talk about numbers its important to note large changes can be caused by seemingly small amounts of something. take for example food dye in water or maybe someone putting arsenic in a taco.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Yes, since it is contributing, it does increase the rate of warm up. But not to such extent that would cause the earth to burn up. Think on the scale of 100s of years, that is insignificant. The point is that we dont have to be aggressive and all doomsday-ie about it like for example Al Gore is. It wont kill off our species.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru it probably wont kill off our species but it wont be comfortable either. im not sure why you think anyone is saying that the earth will burn up. I am also not sure what your point about 100's of years is either. the prediction is that the next generation will suffer worse then ours so maybe 100 yrs. It is important to note that I am not advertising a solution and that I dont endorse a hypocrite like Gore. im strictly talking about the science..
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Ok, so how uncomfortable are we speaking of? Like Canada becoming like Africa in terms of temperatures during the heat of summer?
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru no actually canada will be a safe haven. however places like bolivia and texas and small island countries wont be so great. basicly anyone near the equitorial line will have a series of unfortunate things
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Yes, but again, unfortunate things like natural disasters happen all the time. They have always happened. The best we can do is predict such disasters with our technology like hurricanes or floods and evacuate people, thats what preparedness is. Thats what we humans excel at. But cutting some carbon emissions, banning plastic bags, driving electric cars would save them? Come on, lets be realistic here. It should remain a choice.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru why would you choose to increase your impact with doing nothing to change your lifestyle? at the very least we could choose to save ourselves some money by using reusable bags and driving less. also I never talked about banning plastic bags or anything.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Wrong. I dont want to increase impact. I just want to keep driving my car and drinking out of plastic bottles, because thats comfortable for me. I want to keep my lifestyle as it is. In supermarkets bags come free, so I dont see how I would save money on that. Maybe in socialist nations, lol.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru if you used reusable bags then the company wouldnt have to charge you for the profit lost by buying those plastic bags. what does socialism have to do with climate change itself? public policy has no value in science.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Also, you should know that we all and animals produce CO2 when we fart or even breathe, the tree even use CO2 to produces Oxygen. Its all in the cycle of life or should the billions of animals and humans on this earth breathe less now to save our beloved earth from certain destruction? Come on now!
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru so burning fossil fuels, which btw have a unique chemical signature, is part of that natural cycle? these are all strawman arguments and red herring arguments that you are giving
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby No, its not. CO2 is CO2. In terms of a greenhouse gas its the same function as a factory produced CO2 emission as a breathe out.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru factory C02 is not part of the natural cycle therfore C02 is in addition to the natural cycle that life evolved in. burning fossil fuels is indeed part of our daily life and yes solar energy is ineficient. that doesnt give you an excuse not to improve something or lessen environemental impact through daily routine.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Improvements to technologies are made all the time. But we still have to emit CO2, if not then we must resort to something else and what would that be? I dont realistically see it grow by a whole lot in terms of fossil fuel burning, it might've reached its maximum in the US. Or people could plant more trees, I dont know.... But I see the cutting of fossil fuels as having a much profound effect on peoples' health then "saving the world".
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru ok then let it happen go ahead im going to bed
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby In order to make all the environmentalists warm and fuzzy inside we would have to cut all of the CO2 emissions, meaning cut all 3% of all earth co2 emissions, FOR WHAT? You seriously expect all hurricanes and floods to stop or decrease in intensity and ice caps would stop melting? Yes, the industrial age HAS warmed up the temperatures but to such a degree that you cant even feel it. To me weather has been the same unpredictability in NYC since I was born in 89.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Burning fossil fuels is part of our life if you want technology and energy. We must have it. Because solar energy is inefficient in a general sense. We will always be burning fossil fuels.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@twizelby And by how much would you cut carbon emissions worldwide to feel "comfortable" in the next 100 years? We cant ban completely, we'd go back to the stone age.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru like I said im not giving solutions im strictly talking about what I know. if I had to take a guess as to what will happen I think we wont do much until 1st world countries are hit and at that point there is talk of various solutions that I dont know much about like putting sulfates into the atmosphere to shield us from the sun. give me a second to watch your video.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby I mean, you know how many fuckups can happen to our planet? They can come from outer space like asteroids that are 50 or more miles wide that would annihilate EVERYTHING on earth like the one that happened 65 million years ago, we just dont know but we as humans can prepare. Humans or no humans earth right now would still be warming up and those ice caps melting.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru the ways in which we can be obliterated are inumerous but thats not an excuse to ignore a problem. its like saying we shouldnt deal with gunshot victims because eventually old age will take them."we as humans can prepare" yes we can and thats the issue at hand how do we prepare ourselves. again the ice caps wouldnt be melting at the rate which we currently see them and they wouldnt melt completely unless something like a massive asteroid caused greenhse effects
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@twizelby Just to put in perspective our insignificance.
watch?v=nHdbjPWp2vk
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru im not sure what the video has to do with global warming either. what is impresive about size and the earth is that if you look at a globe and you maped the globes atmosphere it would be the width of the paint on the globe. pretty crazy huh
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru if we are going to debate this I try to keep things civil. so far you havent said anything offensive or anything so I appreciate that.
twizelby 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru Erm what is your point, the video covers less than a 2 year span, Its hardly going to show the effect of global warming. compare the september 1970 satellite images to sep 2010 ones and you'll see the 30% decrease in north atlantic ice, to the point where ships can sail over the top of canada in the summer.
"In fact many ice caps are GAINING ice, instead of losing" In fact all ice caps are gaining ice, but most are just losing it at a faster rate.
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 I just wanted to show you how they falsify their data. The usual physical "proof" that shows a 1979 north pole ice sheet and then comparing it to 2003 which shows ice shrinkage. 1979 was taken during winter months when that part of the world is farthest from the sun. And the 2003 was taken during the summer months in the northern hemisphere..... EASY to scare the shit out of people. They have to show a time lapse to prove their point. Showing us then and now makes no sense.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru What are you talking about??? According to the source (NASA) Both images were generated using a 3 year moving average over both of the time periods. They were both taken at the sea ice minimum level in september. And show a 9.6% decrease per decade. So where are you getting the impression that the 1979 images were taken in the winter?
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 We dont even know what season they were taken in. The video I showed is how it really happens during the season change, thats 2009. All in the same year. Other simplistic images of NASA which are used by the so called "experts", they show a 1979 photo and a 2003 photo and say "look, the ice decreased" with just giving the year without even stating what season it is. When in the summer they do melt and later make up that lost ice in winter months.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@luckyStrike89ru Again I repeat where are you getting the impression that the 1979 images were taken in the winter?? The source says "sea ice minimum level" for both images in that year. Thats obviously not going to be in the winter. And since when was almost 10% a decade "slowly melting"
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 But it is melting, slowly and it should be melting naturally.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
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@mancno1 "Erm what is your point, the video covers less than a 2 year span, Its hardly going to show the effect of global warming"- Wrong as you can see, during the winter months it looks exactly the same as the one taken in 1979 by Nasa.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy I say CO2 is a greenhouse gas you say "evil CO2". I say we should improve efficiency by reducing wastage you say "green court" and "Humans are scum"
Don't waste my time by addressing arguments that I never made.
mancno1 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 co2 is not bad on its own!!!! Volcanoes alone produce more co2 annually than humans green house gas emissions.
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
@mancno1 The ice caps are melting at a very slow rate, they have been for awhile. But the big quantities lost are usually made up during the winter solstice. The 3% additional percent of human CO2 emissions dont have any real effect on the melting of ice caps. They would still be melting WITHOUT human emissions. Anyways, why even give a fuck about the ice caps, why are they so precious to us? Ocean levels would only increase at a HIGH rate of melting. Now, its not the case AT ALL.
luckyStrike89ru 3 weeks ago
@MrLettuceguy all you have to do is start with the movie you mentioned, look up criticism of the movie, it's littered with lies and misleading statements, but don't take my word for it, seriously look at the criticisms for yourself. you'll see why manco1 is quick to discredit your sources.
kapwns 3 weeks ago
@Obamaluke
Yeah thats what im planning....
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
TROLL.
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
What's your point? are you trying to tell me that i don't know global warming is a hoax or are you just a random fucking troll??.....
And yeah they put on informational TV programs for people to learn about new things....why don't you tune into it? because you sound like you figured the sun out.
Did you know the sun will set off a huge solar storm around 2012 which might disrupt our power? i bet you didn't....
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
And truthers are also retarded... they get mad over real issues
but they do nothing except go to their gay protests
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
You're a 14 year old idiot for calling other people retarded when you don't read.
Animals do give off Co2 but i am talking the fucking micro-organisms which rise above from the deep parts of the ocean to collect the Co2...i dont fucking know how it works... i saw documentary on NatGEO
And thanks dumb ass for telling me the sun warms the earth....
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
Co2 is what plants breathe and according to geologists and scientists
there are more plants on earth than cars today and plus the microbes in the ocean absorb Co2 as well sinking it down to the bottom i suppose to support plant life there as well?
India is one of the polluted countries on the planet and yet the temperature has remained the same way for centuries
mercanaries3 1 month ago
@Obamaluke
Oh you mean like the government? or FOX lies News?
or CNN or the CIA,FBI,NASA,Military industrial complex?
or HollyWood?
mercanaries3 1 month ago
RT as seen here in this video shows is a good news form, reporting news as it is and not as Fox in total disregard to truth and is a propagandist of the 1% to the 99%. [ Go RT! show it as it is! ].
korz53 1 month ago
@Obamaluke The Sun is Hot and burns all things up. It is the Earth that keeps the Hot out and the Cold in , in a balance so as to prompt life on Earth to be, or it will be not. The Earth is what warms the Earth not the Sun. When you look up in the morning you see the SUN thru the atmosphere that balances the HOT from the SUN and COLD from the empty space that is with in , between the atoms in the material world.
Dogma is never useful as using words as idiot.
korz53 1 month ago
one thing is true, and that is when expert witnesses contradict them selfs in a court of law , something is wrong and corrupt. and needs a French Revolution (French: Révolution française; 1789–1799),;sustained assault from radical left-wing political groups,[aristocracy and religious authority were abruptly overthrown by new Enlightenment principles of equality,citizenship and inalienable rights]. The 1% is infringing on the 99%'s inalienable rights financially and economically in the US.
korz53 1 month ago
This is old, debunked news. Several reviews showed no wrongdoing, only irritation on the part of scientists with the flat-Earth/anti-conservation crowd.
The latest releases of more stolen emails (in a sleazy attempt to influence the Durban conference) were dismissed, as they should have been originally.
You people need to find another tactic, like dealing with the full context of the evidence and ditching your petty crusade to waste even more fossil fuels in the name of "growth."
Antithropocentric 1 month ago
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The potential for AGW via CO2 was understood 150 years ago in studies of the greenhouse effect; see Tyndall 1859 & Arrhenius 1896. In the 1930s & 1950s CO2's effects were confirmed.
Denial only kicked in when action was called for. It's typical human nature to favor short-term money over the common good. But the core motives for AGW denial aren't even rational. Why anyone would NOT want to conserve (peaking) oil reserves to stretch future supplies is a mystery. Conservation wins on all counts.
Antithropocentric 1 month ago
GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!! WAKE UP!!!!!
MrLettuceguy 1 month ago 2
@MrLettuceguy lol "wake up" the call of the conspiracy nut. lay off the alex jones and do some real research ace.
kapwns 1 month ago
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@kapwns I'm not trying to say that climate change isn't happening because it has for the past 4 billion years! I am saying that humans co2 emissions have little to no effect on global temperature. Weather Action.com, Science and Public Policy.org, Climate Depot.org. The great global warming swindle - Full version
MrLettuceguy 3 weeks ago
to hide the decline referred to treerings showing smaller as they had to be due to acid rain in industrial parts in eastern europe , they had to use an trick to hide this because it would not show actual climate date that where available for that time.
Everytime someones claims something ask for recources then take time to examine it , that way is the only way to know the truth then just assume quotes as thruth without examing it because it fits what you want to believe
randar1969 1 month ago
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Born Jonathan Leibowitz, Stewart was raised by a Jewish family in New York City. He and his older brother, Larry, who is currently Chief Operating Officer of NYSE Euronext (parent company of the New York Stock Exchange). This is why John Stewart pushed a carbon exchange market, he is a self centered opportunist. Stupid Americans.
ChrisYoung2008 1 month ago 2
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Take things out of context and you get comments to support just about anything.
Klodvig105 1 month ago
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climategate is a cia mossad deception designed to protect the military industrial complex
MrTranscend1 1 month ago
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Emotive bullshit like this video is rife through both sides of this debate and it really distracts from the real issues.
I'm no scientist. So I must take the scientific consensus which is more often than not right.
98% of actively researching climate scientists agree that AGW is happening.
kmb56 1 month ago
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Climate related news, for those interested only please..
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Observing deforestation from space
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Global climate change can now be observed from space.
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation launched a new technology that can survey the world’s forests via satellites and provide a more accurate, global picture of common threats to the environment, such as deforestation, degradation or illegal logging.
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Inter Press Service
1 December 2011
Nightversionn 1 month ago
where's the beef? I mean warming?
StopGlobalWarming09 2 months ago
FUCK YOU
gavhof 2 months ago
@SixFootTallMIdget How exactly does the "global warming hoax" destroy america and why are american Climatologists doing it. And since when was america the only place in the world that stands in the way of tyranny, British troops are also in Afghanistan and the UN dealt with Libya.
I'm still puzzled at how you got. Scientists observe we contribute to climate change = Scientists are lying and trying to destroy america
mancno1 2 months ago 2
@mancno1 Well you see Big Oil has done its most finest job at filling the minds of the (less educated) public, through the media mostly, that science should be ignored and ridiculed. lol. People Like their SUV's i guess.
but really it comes down to the physics of thermal radiation and how it is affected by a molecule such as CO2. That carbon is what makes the molecule absorb and re-emit thermal radiation projected from the earth. You really need more than 200 characters to talk about it....
TheWenaus 2 months ago
@BTsmoke Yh you're right all we want is to damage are economy by creating extra costs for firms that they pass on to their consumers so that everyone is worse off and jobs are cut to save money. Whilst countries such as China with lax pollution laws receive more investment from companies that could have gone to western countries. MMUHAHAHAHA
But seriously nobody benefits from this so why would anyone lie about it.
mancno1 2 months ago 2
@mancno1 They want to destroy the only place in the world that stands in the way of tyranny. Which is America.
SixFootTallMidget 2 months ago
Politicians are ALL fraudsters 99.9% and not to be believe anymore than Lawyers turned Judges, all from similar backgrounds = Non working class. Wake up sheeple !!!
ddjovic 2 months ago
What I would suggest is this: Suppose there is this man-made global warming deal. OK. The more I am convinced the more I will vote for DEregulation, less taxes on big oil and increased capitalism. This is where energy-efficient innovations come from.
ElProximo 3 months ago
..........I believe the CO2 warming fraud is all about bringing the oil companies to their knees, every leftie, uni student and frustrated faliures wet dream?
BTsmoke 3 months ago
if americans keep believing this with in 10 years solar will be cheaper than coal and china will be the only one with the tech.
n1234ick 3 months ago
you do realize that the only evidence you have against global warming is from a Russian propaganda news organization?
troy9999999999 3 months ago
@troy9999999999 ... ya you are just pulling this out of your ass. Please PLEASE speak with experts on the matter. Climatologist - Paleoclimatoligists, and so on before you come to your own conclusion
TheWenaus 2 months ago
@TheWenaus No, you please. This video is from a Russian news organization that plants propoganda against the United States. You're taking your facts from them? really?
troy9999999999 2 months ago
@troy9999999999 Oh this video is a joke, its clearly not the end of the world we are worried about lol. I hadnt even watched it all in fact - i was only interested in the (youtube) publics comments on the subject of global warming.
I get my facts from scientific data generally :) Iv taken a number a courses on global climate/atmospheric science/biology and botany. But really you only need a little education on the subject and it can realy open your eyes to the potential threats
TheWenaus 2 months ago
@TheWenaus
Fake IPCC. Proven crooks.
MrRightwingextreme 1 month ago
Climategate amounted to nothing in terms of scientific misconduct. People who don't follow this stuff carefully need to understand that. "Where there's smoke there's fire" is a general maxim the average person often relies on - and so it's a maxim often abused by those seeking to deceive the average person.
It amounted to ZERO, NOTHING, NADA, in terms of scientific misconduct. It was just a bunch of context-removed sinister sounding sentences cherry-picked from over a thousand private emails.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 6 months ago
Even though global warming is a hoax, that doesnt mean we should stop finding alternative fuels
ethanol can also be alternative fuel
but i still think oxygen is better, oh yeah they are trying to make a car that runs on oxygen now
mercanaries3 6 months ago
I still believe in global warming and nothing wil change that
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@irelandcool1
You're an idiot why do you think the earth has tree's and plants?.
It's a never ending cycle the tree's collect Co2 and convert it into oxygen.
mercanaries3 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 Yeah but since rainforests are being cut down they be less trees and anyways I believe plants and trees are not aware of what they are doing
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@irelandcool1
really? thats just an illusion so people like you can "save the fucking planet"
there are places on this planet where rain forests remain the same way as they were for thousands of years
Al gore wont tell you that... oh no he'd rather tell you that polar bears cant swim but in fact they can swim upto 200 miles a day or more
im not saying cutting down trees are good, but trees grow back kid
mercanaries3 6 months ago
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irelandcool1 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 Not unless you destroy the seed the plant can't grow the best evidence I can give you are look at the amount of active tropical cyclone seasons in the atlantic ocean last decade and look how many reached major hurricane status (cat 3, 4 or 5)
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 Thats unless you cut them down on a fast rate and anyways climate change is real the planet has done so ever since the begining of our solar system theres many evidence to support the idea of global warming kind of like there is enough evidence to suggest that ice ages are real also tropical cyclone seasons have become more active lately with the last decade having active seasons due to the warming of oceans the intense flooding
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 the melting of glaciers at a much faster rate then normal. An increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are also due to global warming due to the rate of glaciers in the north and south pole compressing the earths crust and the melting resulting in the earths crust coming back to normal can generate heightened earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Here in ireland we had very cold winters from the last two years that possibly have resulted from
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 global warming being a contributing factor. Many Climatologists believe in global warming. Climate Change has been seen in many other planets too. Also CO2 ain't the only greenhouse gas thats been rising theres methane and so on. Also as ice reflects sunrays and water absorbs sunrays due to being conductive resulting in a a further rise in sea temperature. Droughts, desertification and famines are all part of global warming
irelandcool1 6 months ago
@mercanaries3 Heavy snowstorms, blizzards, Nor-easters, etc can also be attributed to global warming as it causes heavy precipation. Also I find people who don't believe in global warming are stubborn, careless people the same way I view people who think we shouldn't protect endangered animals and plants because they have been going extinct all the time
irelandcool1 6 months ago
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY ONE DAY. WHY NOT NOW? ITS A SAFE BET!!! (EAT THAT CLIMATE CHANGE SCEPTICS)
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