Mozart - Symphony No. 35 in D Major "Haffner" - Mov. 1/4

[Belbenoit1974]

listen 05:08

[Belbenoit1974]

listen 02:14

[Belbenoit1974]

listen 01:37

[BnkWrATMt1ts]

Seriously listen to the intro of the first movement of Hummel's trumpet concerto. Uncanny.

[BnkWrATMt1ts]

Now I see where Hummel's trumpet concerto comes from...magnificent piece.

[kwixotic]

Made a bit of mistake. I intended to say it was in the "world of music" class I had and that Mozart travelled up and down the music scale.  My sentence was confusing.

[kwixotic]

I can first remember this in my senior year in high school in the "world of music" and the teacher pointed out how well Mozart travelled up and down and music scale, apparently one of his most defining characteristics.

[Tdgonline]

This music is wonderful from start to finish. And also, remember reading that it is was commissioned by someone in Salzburg, because his father kept writing to him about when the new symphony would be composed. So Mozart, starting form scratch, completed it I believe, in just a few days.

[MERTx123]

From 5:10 to the end is so exciting! I love the coda especially :)

[SirSebastianWang]

Sounds a bit like D-flat to me...

[byranntherockstar1]

@SirSebastianWang Yeah, it did to me at first, as well. Then I started singing along to it, and it sounded a bit more like D

[zenophilius1]

yeah baby, this is one of the best pieces ever!

[Horaz70]

Grand. Could have been played even better, but it´s o.k. :-)

[zenophilius1]

@Horaz70 , I totally agree. The g on the d string in the beginning was a little flat.

[Erunis100]

im 15, i love fashion and the music of these days but it doesnt mean i can not recognise such a magnificence like this.

[MrConvivator]

Danke, habe Link gesetzt

[Andgul63]

Excellent music for my ears!

[whneo97]

Sounds like one of his concertos....

[TheAlessandrotto]

What picture is this?

[Andgul63]

@TheAlessandrotto

I think it´s an prom at an royalcastle.Not sure who painter is...

[Petergmail09]

Absolutely bueatiful!! These times composers like Mozart don't exist anymore. Joy for all!!

Peter

[SuperCodgod5]

This song is so dirty its the 0.01 percent of dirt that lysol cant clean

[SuperCodgod5]

BROOOOO!!!!!! DO NOT WORRY FOR FLOSEIDEN HAS PROVIDED US WITH THIS KILLER SOUNDS, ALMOST LIKE HE PROVIDED US WITH THE FLOW BUCKET!!!!!!

[mehzkhan2]

1 dislike?!?!?! He must have problems. Or he is dissapointed that the painting wasn't dancing.

[mehzkhan2]

1 dislike?!?!?! He must have problems.

[headshothoncho100]

the philharmonic along with the symphony in new york are probably the best two in the world followed closely by boston! take it from a violinist ;)

[DeadCatStudios]

@jdbrown371 I wouldn't say it's ignored at all. In fact it's very popular. I bought a cd with it recently and found another one in my basement with this same piece. Then again it may just be me :)

[meinevvelten]

Good performance. I was thinking of uploading a recording of this piece as well, conducted by Leonard Bernstein with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra.

[055697]

Mozart = Rock n' Roll of the Eighteenth Century

[Neongrapes]

@055697 You sure it's not Rap of the 18th century....I'm just kidding.

[leah60006]

@Neongrapes lol

[xVictimOfADownx1]

@055697 fuck rock music, it's always sucked, now metal music.....is what you mean, intense, technical and speak about things that actually matter in the world

[055697]

@xVictimOfADownx1

I am not sure what you are talking about. Please clarify, or drink less alcohol before you comment on You Tube.

[ArsMusica1732]

@055697 About as inaccurate a statement as could be made.

[055697]

@ArsMusica1732

Let me see if I care what you think.......mmmm...let me see. Er, no. I don't care. If you are charging me with being anachronistic then you would be right. But such long words are beyond you.

[violin614]

Wow! this is a good one!

[jdbrown371]

This is an excellent performance of one of Mozart's best yet somewhat ignored symphonies. There's a lot of things I can say but one thing that really stands out for me is the ornaments are actually played correctly. It's stunning how major conductors and orchestras can mange to hackney a piece of music like this, especially the second movement which loses all grace and meaning when played too fast with crappy ornamentation.

[JessmanChicken86]

I'd really like to know what that painting is and who it's by.

[drogato6]

mozart es mi heroe INMORTAL

[MrsCow18]

are there modern composers who can still write like this?

just wondering?

the wind music they compose now is amazing especially whitacre, that mans a genius

[Neongrapes]

@MrsCow18 What are you talking about. What is accepted as consonant and dissonant evolves over time. You can't seriously expect a living composer to write music with the same harmony and aesthetics as this. Is there a contemporary composer of equal inspiration? Maybe-But, Mozart was a freak of nature, there is a reason we still know who he is.....he's not normal.

[MrsCow18]

@Neongrapes k, just wondering. but i doubted it anyways. and i'm not talking exactly liek mozart, but similar.

[Radeir1]

Ai, que saudade

das noites iluminadas

- ao som de Mozart.

[TheoreticalFallacy]

The harpsichord was used for recitatives during some of his operas

[MusicForEmotions]

Mozart wrote this for my family back in his time, it's such a great piece. I feel proud :)

[thenewchuchoarcila]

wat do u mean did ur ancestors knew mozart

[MusicForEmotions]

half my family can from germany. back in the time of mozart, my family literally knew him. they were good friends. he wrote the haffner symphony in honor of the haffners, or my german side of the family. i think theres a street in austria or somewhere like that he named after the haffners too.

[thenewchuchoarcila]

wow thats amazing,very interesting family history,so r the haffners well known there

[MusicForEmotions]

what do you mean there? like america or germany?

[thenewchuchoarcila]

germany

[MusicForEmotions]

psssh, i have no, ive never been to germany or austria. my mom has seen the haffner street but thats really it.

[MyNirvana101]

Why is that marked "poor"? I thought it was interesting to know :( I'm certain your telling the truth, thats a great story and you should be proud :)

[AbeTakawa]

Trevor Pinnock directed with performing harpsichord.

[vlnmusic]

i would say the technical level of this piece is comparable to tchaikovsky's

[Neongrapes]

@vlnmusic no way man...you think

[vlnmusic]

@Neongrapes julliard pre-college played both this symphony and tchaik few years ago, they worked much harder on the mozar one

[Neongrapes]

@vlnmusic yes sarcasm-mozart though utilizing a smaller orchestra is not inferior to the larger textures and orchestras of the romantic composers.

[stickom]

Good gestalt, very compact, thanks for complementary text though at Salzburg occasions Mozart revealed his talent playing a violin in concertante movements while in Vienna hed rather play keyboard so that explains transition from Serenade form to Symphony in ten years apart period, I think.

[Bahfreakee]

Thank you for the post and the history :)

[jellybeanluvr980805]

This song is pretty good. It makes me think of Mozart dancing.:)

[rosacotton]

Thank you very much for the history of this symphony. It is wonderful. :)

[sonata1992]

The performance is absolutely stunning, but why on earth is there a harpsichord? This is a symphony that was written late enough for that to be completely unnecessary to be "historical."

[HARMONICO101]

Contrary to popular belief, the harpsichord was still in regular use till the end of the 18th century. Mozart was also known to conduct from the harpsichord.

It's also interesting to note that Mozart's early "piano" concertos were actually performed on the harpsichord.

[sonata1992]

I know it was still in regular use, but by the time of the 35th symphony, it's not at all a necessary part. And personally, I don't care too much for using continuo for late Mozart and Haydn.

Yes, but many of those were very early childhood experiments in transcription. And I think especially by the time of the Jeunehomme, it's simply not the right instrument.

I've not read about his conducting practices. Did he use just the harpsichord or also the fortepiano?

[HARMONICO101]

I don't know for sure about fortepiano.

See, late Mozart and Haydn as well as early Mozart and Haydn used figured bass in many of their symphonies. This implies a chord-playing instrument as well as the usual cello and doublebass/violone.

[KarlAmade]

Well I don't agree, but that is my point of view : )

That the Harpsichord died out in the end of the late 18th century is a joke... the fact is that almost nobody composed music for it where it had a major roll. Beethoven was a "harpsichordist". And many rich people had both a harpsichord and a piano in their manor throughout the 19th century. I've played on a harpsichord made in 1867, over a hundred years after Mozart was born =P That harpsichord had pedals = )

[sonata1992]

That it no longer had a major role is the whole point.

[HARMONICO101]

I agree wiht you in saying that it didn't have a major role, but I don't think it detracts from the performance in anyway.

[sonata1992]

Then it's just our divergences in taste, then :)

[HARMONICO101]

Indeed. :)

[comic4relief]

I've recently heard a recording of the Prague Symphony conducted by Sir Charles Mackerras. Marvelous! I really like hearing the harpsichord plinking along with everyone else (the orchestra, that is). In this case, it definitely does not detract, impede or otherwise interfere with the overall performance.

[sonata1992]

I heard that one too. This is a different type of orchestra, so it has a bit of a different feel.

[comic4relief]

How so?--- I don't mean to argue. I just think I'm not getting the gist of the dialog going on here. I am interested to know, however.

[sonata1992]

Mackerras' orchestra is modern (if I remember), this one is a period orchestra. There's a different balance.

[comic4relief]

Different seating? Different mix in the recording? Specify please. The continuo won't fit into the 'modern' orchestra?

[sonata1992]

I can't specify, especially as I haven't compared the two in 2 months.

It's not that it doesn't fit in either of them, it's simply clearer in the period. A harpsichord in a late Mozart symphony sounded odd to me. Simply a personal thing.

[comic4relief]

The period orchestra uses (supposed to anyway) vibrato/tremolo modestly, mainly for effects or isolated nuances or flourishes and so on, rather than continually. Am I right? The harpsichord or clavichord or fortepiano plays along with the smoother strings a lot more nicely, it seems.--- Sorry if I seem to be picking. I do find the subject interesting. I really like that there are modern-day enthusiasts, European consortia etc, who are interested in reviving the original sound and methods.

[sonata1992]

In this case, I was thinking more about the balance. A period orchestra is much smaller, and has less strings overpowering the other sections. Something I quite like in this music.

[Kylebob74]

fewer strings :D

[oatboy]

tremelo has little to do with it, but they use period tuning, strings, bows and period technique and musical sensbility. The playing here is good, but I find the tempi too slow across the board in this recording and it find it makes it a little dull.

[HARMONICO101]

I like the tempo personally because it has the right dance-like feeling appropriate for Viennese classicism.

It seems that today's fad in classical musical is to play everything as fast as humanly possible.

[oatboy]

yeah well tempi seem to shift in generations. I.e. the classical period was relatively quick, the romantic, especially late 19th century tended towards rubato and slower tempi. A lot of the fast tempi today are a backlash against the older style I think, but historical evidence points to classical period tempi being quite fast. Nicholas McGegan showed me a lot of metronome markings from period performers around this time period and they were lightning fast. Not to mention beethovens markings.

[chopinandliszt]

not only does rubato "steal away time", it also "takes it back", normally, when students use rubato, they think of slowing tempo down. Actually, the opposite is not uncommon.

[sicnarf25]

good insight, thank you.

[comic4relief]

Are you referring to this video or the one referred to in the dialog above? Anyway, heavy vibrato does sometimes cause a little tremolo, no?

[oatboy]

tremolo is done with the bow, i'm not sure what you're getting at.

[comic4relief]

I was confusing what you mean by 'tremolo' with what I pictured as slight fluctuation in pitch (as in the 'tremolo' bar on a guitar), whereas 'vibrato' would mean fluctuation in volume.

[comic4relief]

I was confusing what you mean by 'tremolo' with what I pictured as slight fluctuation in pitch (as in the 'tremolo' bar on a guitar), whereas 'vibrato' would mean fluctuation in volume. There does seem to be considerable confusion over those terms, particularly across differing sectors of the the music world.

[oatboy]

Oh I see, you are a guitarist then I assume. Confusingly we use these terms in different ways. On stringed instruments vibrato is fluctuation in pitch, done by quickly rocking the hand back and forth. This is not done much in baroque period style, or classical period style as in this video. Tremolo is extremely fast, brushy bow strokes, that create a shimmery effect.

[comic4relief]

Thanks for responding. Yes, I do play guitar, although some would find that arguable; I am known to have participated in fairly mean jams on fretless electric bass guitar. As well, I know something of theory and form, and other musical aspects, and my fascination with Mozart runs deep.

[comic4relief]

The main point of my interest in all of this dialog concerns the manner of playing Mozart. A modern-day ensemble, a string quintet for example, tend to use vibrato continuously. (This has been sometimes associated with softening the inaccuracy of the fingering-- another story).--- It seems playing methods evolved in the Nineteenth century etc, for better or for worse, to become what they are today.

[comic4relief]

Fortunately, there is strong interest in exploring and reviving period performance and sound. The actual sound created greatly interested Mozart.

[HARMONICO101]

I just learned that Mozart lead the orchestra from the harpsichord for performances of his operas, and performed the improvised the accompaniment in recitatives. The anecdote in particular I read was concerning a performance of "Le Nozze di Figaro".

[Geoffreymga]

@HARMONICO101

although it was certainly within his capacity, none of mozart's operas are scored for harpsichord..

[HARMONICO101]

That's because he performed continuo.

[sciprio]

Great interpretation.