I get sickened by all the credit being given to the pacifists when it was the radical ones (whether civilian or paid government soldiers) who advocated using militaristic revolution, and who suffered just as much in their struggle, because it's the authoritarians' nauseating condescending way of saying "If you behave politely and nicely, we'll give you some bread crumbs."
"Antiwar movement" is an oxymoron. One can't "fight" against war, because the fight itself IS a war. One CAN speak of degrees of force one is willing to use. Those who choose to use less force, or no force at all, of course, will find themselves on the losing side.
To determine who is justified in a fight/battle, one HAS to talk about who started what. There is nothing "childish" about finding out the truth about that, as the fight for truth is NEVER childish.
Finally, somebody (else) said it! Thank you for posting this video!
Functionally, when modeling ANY conflict with game theory - no matter whether one or both or neither side is acting illegally - there is no difference between civilians vs soldiers, except in degree. There are simply agents that fight with varying degrees of ferocity for a given cause. Those with greater justification for their cause have greater cause to use force.
Whoever believes this is a sheep themselves. Ron Paul 2012, end the fed, constitutional gov't and all that but i don't agree with these solutions at all. It's about waking up. It is each individual's responsibility to be engaging tyranny by spreading the intellectual awakening. Run for office, local or federal. Everyone! Get into the system and change it from within. Go to Washington. Go to the fed. Demand who the "1%" are and lets confront them head on. But violence is what they WANT!!
Fuzzy feeling of being right is shared by many - Marxists, KKK, Ron Paul supporters. They assume they represent majority, but they do not. Otherwise, the voting process would do. The prescribed violent takeover can benefit different ideological groups. In case of Ron Paul Liberty movement, however, it is counter productive, because stable free-market with no state tyranny requires CONSENT.
Translation: if people want free stuff over liberty (Iowa farmers), it cannot be forced into their throat.
By buying and selling goods and services between ourselfs we cut the government out of the equation.
Also the elite 1% feeds of our backs by use of corporations. Everytime you buy a Coke or coffee at Starbucks, go eat at McDonalds, etc you are exploited by the top 1% that are majority owners of these corporations.
More examples:
* You can fill up your tank of gas or diesel on black/gray market.
* Car repair, autoparts, tools, computers, etc.most stuff is available on the black/gray market.
You can punish the Government/State by the dollar like one said. That mean's you starve it by stop paying taxes, cut of it's tax flow and funding as much as you can. If everyone unite around the cause the effect is amplified.
Some examples:
* Purchase all your food on the black/gray market, likely from local producers. cash payment which is untraceable.
* Purchase your clothes from the black/gray market, like privately imported clothes from asia on local markets, craiglists, e-bay, etc.
Holding Signs just shows that people still do the litmus test in some quadrant before giving nothing at all a chance...; what there doing for the human race is showing there looking for moral fiber before complete denial violence
Ghandi brought an important weapon to the battlefield, and that is society's reluctance to show faith in a system that will oppress an innocent man, asking no harm and doing no wrong. It makes people wake up and realize just how horrible these systems are. It forces them to show their brutal motives explicitly rather than covertly. It awakens the masses more than any act of alienating brutality. Our power comes in unity, not alienation and separation
They have the power to bully us, they have the power to dictate the various aspects of our lives, they even have the power to cripple all that we possess in this life. The difference being, our perspectives of what that means to us. Sure, I surrender to their financial system. It's circumstance. But it actually allows me to do some good in this world. Doesn't mean I'd give a damn if they decided to delete the number in my bank account. Because it just... doesn't... matter. That's the secret.
Also "free will" the way you think of it is an illusion. Violence is not an expression of free will, it is an expression of the primitive animal instinct.
Voting with the dollars is the best way to fight those in power... Just think what would happen if all the protesters stopped flying in protest of the TSA... Just think what would happen if all of the protesters stopped patronizing Wal-Mart because of the TSA monitors in their stores... In today's world the most effective way to change policy is with the dollar...
Gandhi is the greatest enemy of any popular struggle and the best friend of any corrupted fucker in power. It's no wonder he is idolized so much by the western media. Fuck the doctrine of nonviolence.
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live" - Adolf Hitler, visionary
Your video was very inspirational to me. Thank you for it. We were just talking about how the media is portraying the future as horrible all the time, is this predictive programming, so that we all accept our lot? The zombie movies also can tell us a lot of how they vision the future. Masses of herd like mindless, ugly grubs going after anyone who has "brains"! lol!
heh, even if I proclaimed myself an anarchist, someone who values every inch of his freedom over any comfort, at times the borg eden doesn't sound too bad :/
Ok, but tell me, what a few handguns or even ak47s will do against aircraft carriers, nukes and psychotronic weapons, including power of the media and money? This is nothing but provocateuring. If all the people iof the world will stop paying taxes, all goverments will fall instantly.
The people of Tunisia and Egypt did not take up arms and shoot at their oppressors. No, they just waved around signs and yet they managed to overthrow their entire government. Looking outside at a sea of people disgusted with your actions is an excellent impetus to change. This is peaceful protest and revolution combined. Perhaps this video is just outdated. Egypt and Tunisia are real. Get in touch with reality.
"An Egyptian Governmental Fact-Finding mission Known as " Fact-Finding National commission About 25 Jan Revolution" announced on 19 April that at least 846 Egyptians died in the nearly three week long popular uprising". 3,000 people were also reported as injured.
United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Juan Mendez reports that 300 Tunisians died and 700 were injured during the unrest.
That's not what I call a smooth and peaceful transition..
Well, I think that the difference is that Egyptians and Tunisians were willing to die for their opinions, while the governments were willing to kill for their opinions. This video seems to encourage the use of violence as opposed to the stoic reception of violence. The Egyptian and Tunisian protesters were willing to die, but they were not so eager to kill, and they were successful.
I'm not sure how long will that stoic reception of violence go on in Syria, where people get killed everyday when protesting peacefully. No signs of change there. As for Libya, armed resistance was definitively needed to oust Kaddafi.
Ultimately it seems that other factors are at play, like the determination of the leaders to stay in power at all costs, and the level of international support they get. In a historical perspective, the great majority of revolutions were not peaceful
That is true. But transfers of power in democratic countries from party to party can also be considered revolutions. For example, when Thomas Jefferson won his election, they called it the Revolution of 1800.
When people start using violence as an argument, democracy is useless, and the result is killing peaceful protesters in places like Libya and Syria. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Why not stop being violent to begin with?
I find it facinating how Peter Gelderloos wrote a book on the flaws of non-violent activism. Yet now, he actually supports the OWS-movement. Not only does he support it. But he supports the consensus straightjacket on the sheeple. As he did in the protests in Spain.
He most probably is just another NWO-agent just like Noam Chomsky. We`ve got to be carefull with all these anarchists. The elit seems to love giving them attention.
Honestly, what he is speaking of is a world of uneducated people, which is very close to the truth. BUT with education comes maturity, pacifism, problem solving skills, tolerance, and with that education disposes greed, anger, violence. Anger IS stupidity. Anger is but the result of very poor problem solving skills which, again, is the product of uneducated minds. Yes, every revolution has been the result of violent acts but that is because that's all we know. You lay in the grave you made
If people who are poor are encouraged not to breed unless the government gives them what they want. If we all abort our babies, than the government wont have a work force. The government will have to give the people what they want.
@Nuron666 I know it can be done. But why should it be done? "than the government wont have a work force." Yes. We can blow the planet as well, so government won't have a workforce. But how is that in our interest?
@DrNaturalPhenomena even if you dont believe in religion, surely you must agree with some of the rules of the 10 commandments like not to murder, adultery, tell lies, steal etc...
These are fundamental rules that are practised by every religion including atheists.
Without these rules Europe would be a totally different place today. We would not be as civilised as we are now.
@Nuron666 Are you stupid? The 10 commandments is a simple procreation of the work of the 6000 year old "Hindu" religio, which by the way, was the creater of morality.
Because the bible says not to murder doesn't mean that you can't have that perspective and give a fuck about the bible.
Without religion in Humanity we would have been FAR more civilized, further on the evolutionary ladder.
Scientists suggest up to 1000 year further than now. So fuck you and your book of scam.
@DrNaturalPhenomena look I am not a believer in Christianity or any other religion. But we have to give credit where credit is due.
Before christianity came to Europe. Pagan worship was a lot more brutal. Incest was very common. There were many cases of cannibalism during pagan times.
Human sacrifice was going on. There were all sorts of uncivilised activities taking place.
Yes you could argue Christianity copied other cultures etc..
But without christianity we would not be so advanced.
@Nuron666 I agree with you on the pre-Europe, however, there where many other reasons we became civilised. But again, I agree, just remember there are always multiple sides and perspectives.
@TheNaturalBaby I don't think this video is an attempt to change anything, it's an attempt to make all the so called activists realize that they are stupid with their jumping on the streets with some idiotic, illogical slogans.
I cant believe what im hearing! Your train of thought is no better then those you want to retaliate against! If you want to stop the want to stop the same bullshit and war from happening over and over again, we have to change the way we aproach the problems. If you kick the shit out of someone for calling you a dickhead, theyre still going to think your a dickhead afterwards. It doesnt solve the problem. All it takes is for people to stand together and say "you wont control us anymore"
@bxjam85 It wasnt bullshit. Disjointed yes. Its hard to explain any real idea well in these stupid little text boxes. If I missed the point, tell me what it is, cause all I heard was "Theyre screwing us over. Dont be a winging hippy and blow shit up!"
@book1a It sounds like you just heard what you wanted to hear. The man is saying that violence is a part of life. Holding hands and singing with fellow hippies isn't going to solve anything. Peace protests wouldn't have stopped Hitler when he was conquering Europe. Of course you don't always have to resort to violence, but sometimes you must! You're never going to convince everyone to be peaceful pacifists, therefore you should prepare for violence to defend yourself and those you love.
@bxjam85 OK. 1. There no way I 'wanted to hear' anyone inciting people to give the powers that be a cause to screw us over even more. If your view of the video is correct, then I agree with it. 2. Violence is 'A part of life' only because it is part of the enviroment we perpetuate. Scientific fact. Nature because of nurture. Look it up! 3. In no fucking way am I a hippy or on sedatives. Attack my ideas if you dont agree with. Do it personaly and youll find out how un-fuckin hippy-like I am.
@book1a You're not a pacifistic hippy?! Congratulations, but that's the feeling you gave with your first comment and that's why I responded. How u missed the guy's point is beyond me. Was he too mean or something? Human violence isn't a mere result of culture. Culture simply manipulates the human propensity for violence. It's deeply rooted in our evolutionary biology and some of us are NATURALLY more violent than others.
A holdup man seeks to gain wealth by killing me; I do not grow richer by killing a holdup man. I seek no values by means of evil, nor do I surrender my values to evil. You see statists often giving ultimatums like "Your wealth or your life." or "Your country or your life." We have our own: Our work or your guns. You can choose either; you can't have both. We do not initiate the use of force against others or submit to force at their hands.
@FreeEcon You are aware that if you do kill him having taken over the situation, you might convert him to your ways. Not all men are vil, some are just stupid. Evil is this media we have today. Peace is the way.
@lordlicious Whatever is open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that is not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate—in other words, no man may start—the use of physical force against others.
@FreeEcon On the use of physical force being bad I can only agree with you, however there are things that the wicked can do that cangenerate retaliation, as enforcement of wrong laws, psychological toruture and ideological harassment (peer pressure) for instance., in fact coward minds are keen to abuse religion, politics, and law to make others suffer. Not disagreeing with you, just considering other possibilities that could lead to justified physical agression, if there is such a thing.
@lordlicious To interpose the threat of physical destruction between a man and his perception of reality, is to negate and paralyze his means of survival; to force-him to act against his own judgment, is like forcing him to act against his own sight. Whoever, to whatever purpose or extent, initiates the use of force, is a killer acting on the premise of death in a manner wider than murder: the premise of destroying man's capacity to live.
There must be a distinction here. Only aggression is evil. Retaliation is not only permittable, but obligatory. So initation of force is immoral. When a man attempts to deal with me by force, I answer him—by force. o, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own. He uses force to seize a value; I use it only to destroy destruction.
@FreeEcon "an eye for an eye would live the whole world blind" Althought I do understand your right to defend yourself, however many abuse that right. Once the opponent is subdued or even before if you can, you contact authorities. This is the right way to do it. Not saying that if you have no other chance but to "destroy" that you shoud not do it, I am just saying that there are usually opportunities not to "destroy".
@lordlicious I said PHYSICAL force. Harassment is not physical force, and if it is, does that mean I can retaliate against you.
Are you implying that I "sink to their level" when I use force against force? Honestly, the only reason we need the police to do this is because that way it is easier for us. We don't have to deal with them
So Gandhi never happened folks, Jesus never was... ...people never listened to common sense and they never rather had children and built from there than pick up a hatchet and bury it on their neighbour skull... Soldiers threw grenades at officers because the protests at home, English gave up India because hindus decided simply to protest. Gandhi united India and brought the english to their knees without firing a single shot. Using guns are only good for the gun industries.
Read the video info section before posting the usual sanctified drivel for the masses on Gandhi. Read about the Indian Rebellion of 1857, for example.
Soldiers in Vietnam didn't throw grenades on their officers "because of the protests at home", they did so because -- unlike the protesters back home -- they were sent to their deaths by incompetent officers in a losing war . Do you even think for a tiny while before posting?
@jokerjack9 and what would you know about that? SOldiers have always been sent to their deaths since the dawn of humankind, The french before the americans stood ground and were slaughtered to the point of oblivion so this is why they left, the americans were being influenced by the hippie movement from home, alledging it was not the case is not knowing your own history. It was the "question authority" mindset that made them do what they did. Why do you want to minimise the peace movement?
You think soldiers need hippies to question authority? Where do you get this stuff, Bugs Bunny? We 'minimize' the peace movement, because its net results are non-existent.
Ah, crap. I went to your channel and just realized I'm talking to a kid. What a waste of time.
All right, then, I'm done here. Say no to drugs and stay in school.
@jokerjack9 1) "Bunny" who the heck you think you are "old fart". 2) Yes, hippies question authority.still today, Yoko Ono is still active despite Lennon being shot and alternative communities are finally managing to break legal grounds with the problem of drug abuse inserted by government people in order to corrupt the ideology of peace and love is being slowly brushed aside. 3) Age is not a sign of intelligence as I can see. But what would you know about it, you seem arrogantly ignorant.
@jokerjack9 4) I still dont understand what being a "kid" has to do with being right or wrong, do you assume that age makes you right by default? How old are you so I can put someone older than you to tell you what Im telling you? You know nothing about what you are saying and as an ignorant dumb person (regardless of age gender or religion) youare wrong on all your claims. But Jeez, perhaps bogotry age and gender can protect you with some magic shield against the reality. lmao.
@jokerjack9 So I am a man on my fourties telling you that the hippie movement has the element of questioning authorities (at least untill government toned it down with drugs) and that it was much probably one of the reasons that american soldiers (wearing the peace sign) started to shout back (or throw hand grenades) at bad commanders, now how old are you kid, so I can patronise you as much as you tried to do with the "Kid" who dared questioning this absurd, hate mongering filth of a video?
@jokerjack9 You are aware that Gandhi had not yet been born on 1857 and therefore never participated on an event that happened years before his birth, right? I do understand that the creator of this hate speech video might think that the hippie movement is a left wing fallacy, hence the "opiate of..." (referring to Marx "the opiate of religion" , well I hate Marx and anything to do with communism because they preach hatred and the need to kill everyone who disagrees with them. Peace is the way.
@nephildevil this is coming from a belgian satanist who is obsessed with knives and swords... I'm sure Belgium is a violent blood soaked reality.... lol. Or maybe that reality is just in your close-minded head.
Civil Disobedience. As soon as enough people "wake up" and choose to stop participating in the machine, the gears will stop turning. I agree that we must prepare for action, but to say that Peace and Free Will are incompatible is just nonsense.
amazing point. so obvious. i mean lets look at the word PRO-TEST. It basically means " I AM ALL FOR - TESTING, THIS IDEA OF YOURS". Its bullshit. Need to step it up a little. We need to be smarter sharper than them. They have fucking nukes and guns and all sorts. What the fuck is a sign. It doesn't mean SHIT
Well this video makes for a self-fulfilling prophesy, if I every saw one...
Naturally, reacting violently to violence is the opposite of free will. It's the instinct of a hurt and frightened animal. As you don't want to see yourself as such, you rationalize it, projecting your fear unto others. Yes, there are other frightened animals out there, but there are also many who are not. Those are the pacifists.
So I would rather say: Until there is free will, there will always be violence.
@omegapoint777 I see no need to go into a discussion on whether there is something inherently wrong with violence in itself. What is obvious however, is that violence is a symptom of something being wrong. Violent behaviour is observed in people who for some reason - often that they have been the subject of violent behavious themselves - are socially and mentally underdeveloped. One can also see this in oneself: When does one feel compelled to violence? When one is happy and content?
@Jardarny An example could actually be myself at this moment. Finding that you disagree with me, i feel threatened, and an urge to reply sarcastically, like i did the first time, comes along. It's nothing wrong with it, it's just the way we react. Being aware of this does to a certain degree dispel it though. But as you notice, i'm perhaps not as free from violent instincts as i may like to think. So i'd like to apologize, and tell you that i meant you no harm. I simply disagree.
@Jardarny Great points! I worry however that by diagnosing violence so strongly as a psychological issue runs the risk of losing sight of any social/structural problems which may have aggravated it. Theoretically, is there no legitimate time & place for violence as a means to prevent tyranny when words simply aren't enough; if pacifism unwittingly becomes appeasement? Now, where & when that point is, I make no claim, but that such a time doesn't exist at all, I struggle with. Respects :)
@omegapoint777 Here's what's wrong with violence...if I break into your house and paint your walls with your brains with my 12-gauge....you probably wouldn't be too happy about it.... lol but the fact you're weary about it as long as it doesn't happen to you means that something is obviously wrong.....unless you admit to your judgement about not wanting to die is meaningless.
As someone else pointed out already, isn't what you're doing a form of sign waving? Where's your legacy of violent resistance? I totally agree with your message, but as long as we're sitting in our chairs discussing about what SHOULD be done nothing is really happening and we're losing more and more freedom every day. Just stop complaining and start doing something instead. Lead and I will follow.
@OutOfTheBoxThinker Wow that's a double negative...I'm about to make it into a triple- negative and say why the fuck aren't YOU doing anything just sitting in your chair telling others not to sit in their chairs why you "lead" ....
@SirGeorge8600 : One of my best friends is now awaiting trial for a "terrorism" charge because he was trying to make a difference. Unlike him, I don't have a rich father who can support me when I can't pay my bills. Unlike him, I can't affort to stay unemployed for several years. I need to keep my job. I need to stay low profile for the time being. I can't risk a "terrorism" charge right now.
I tried Internet activism in the past, though, much like NXShell is doing here. It was just pointless.
this person has it so right!from when we were single organisms till now ,its never been changed . only the victor tells his story !!!!!!!!!!! be a victor or fertilizer!.we are all the same to a degree.but what way we end up, is up to us....never forget we are not just human. we are earthlings ,every living thing on this plant , battles fights and destroys anything that does not help in its own progressivism
when the 3rd world war begins shall men see that violince the only options is and there is a war going on right now for our mind.But the 3rd world war is comming! Arm yourself to the teeth get food an water! prepare for warfare!
Is this video itself not just another form of "sign"? It's the same thing ... presentation of information to make a bunch of people think in a different way. So this video is another "sign waving" and yet the video says signs are useless ... kind of a paradoxical situation.
If only parents and the teenagers knew some of the stuff I have learned, they would never join the militaries and fight for the greed of a few under the guise of so-called "freedom-bringing". Freedom for Walmarts in Iraq
I see your point, but violent behavior without the backing of the public is seen as terrorism. Signs and protests can inspire and get the backing of the public, then the behavior can be seen as heroism.
@MrDonneiDarko The ma who supported Adolph Hitler War against the English Empire. The man who disowned his son when he came out of the closet . Or the Ghandi who thought all dark skinned indians were niggers
YES - WE ARE GUIDED BY VERY, VERY EVIL PEOPLE ON THE TOP - THEY ARE ALL SATANISTS - they rape children, drink their blood from living body... in satanic rituals which prepare them to "guide" us - we have to eliminate them!
@SteampunkPagan Paganism is not something new or original... why your labeled yourself "pagan"?
Paganism was active, "cruel" and natural faith... chubby pigs like you, which PREACH about passivity and other degenerative things, don't carry the Pagan Spirit
I enjoyed this video. I guess one link to pacifism is the increasing feminineness of our society. There's almost nothing on tv for a man to watch anymore.
I am not a warrior... In fact I would gladly become Borg. But of course the Borg =/= the society the elites want to create; Although the aspect of control is there, the efficiency, uniformity are not (ie. the elites would not be subject to the same lack of individuality as everyone else).
Perfect example, Tunisia just used massive (mostly) non-violent protests -sticks and stones - to overthrow their corrupt dictator. Then when they organized into neighborhood watches to protect their communities from looters and rogue elements within their country.
Perfect of example of how after massive nonviolent action, there must be people who have the knowledge of how their enemies will respond, and are actively engaging them.
But they won after Ben Ali realized that they will use violence and the army would join the protesters and all this would end in a huge civial war mess. Then he gave up. They were willing to fight, willing to set themself on flames and willing to die. Huge fighters and not the have a good time and wear a rainbow T-shirt hippies.
I don't know about free will necessarily leading to violence. I think that free will has thus far led us into a world where violence is produced by free will, but I think with the proper amount of love, generosity, kindness and openness that can be reversed too.
@Ormaaj Should we fight? It would be a better world with no fighting. But its human nature. In there was a better system there would be less if any wars.
The Hopi's say the great change cannot come about through forcing your will against others. I see the natural progression of the increased spiritual awareness of humanity, will lead to peace, this is already happening.
Trying to put the discourse of nature into a vigelence of mind priority is about fashion not creation. Sloth will always rebuke itself when comes to solidarity. In terms of relation how much chaos will breed depends on direction. For palatial aristocracy will show forth wit and divide till nothing remains. Resistance is the only par to see what comes about. You cannot kill philosophy, it is only met with reason to which ploys rank to a decision of lost cause. A fashion of indignation is better.
This makes a good point. Non-violence only works as an initial message but fails once violence is used against it. Did Gahndi's belief in non-violence protect him from the bullet that came for him? We are living in a time of violence without restraint. We would all be wise enough to become knowledgable in combat and what society considers "violence." Such knowledge empowers the individual and they stop accepting the role of the victim. If we want to stop TPTB then we must no longer be victims
violence begets violence. the need for violence is not the question; it's "who is your enemy". peaceful demonstration changes opinions within all the compartmentalized sectors of society and forces the truth to reveal it's self to the otherwise oblivious, and that's where the real battle lies within the hearts and minds of each individual.
Violent revolution has been off the table for decades. The only hope lies in peaceful civil disobedience - abandoning their currency, which, if successful, will lead to violence on the part of the oppressor, which will require a courageous population to continue disobeying. The oppressor knows they can't kill all of their subjects, doing so is self-defeating. The only obstacle we have to conquer is fear - realize that consciousness is paradoxical and death should not be feared.
I get sickened by all the credit being given to the pacifists when it was the radical ones (whether civilian or paid government soldiers) who advocated using militaristic revolution, and who suffered just as much in their struggle, because it's the authoritarians' nauseating condescending way of saying "If you behave politely and nicely, we'll give you some bread crumbs."
nahaymath 1 week ago
"Antiwar movement" is an oxymoron. One can't "fight" against war, because the fight itself IS a war. One CAN speak of degrees of force one is willing to use. Those who choose to use less force, or no force at all, of course, will find themselves on the losing side.
To determine who is justified in a fight/battle, one HAS to talk about who started what. There is nothing "childish" about finding out the truth about that, as the fight for truth is NEVER childish.
nahaymath 1 week ago
Finally, somebody (else) said it! Thank you for posting this video!
Functionally, when modeling ANY conflict with game theory - no matter whether one or both or neither side is acting illegally - there is no difference between civilians vs soldiers, except in degree. There are simply agents that fight with varying degrees of ferocity for a given cause. Those with greater justification for their cause have greater cause to use force.
nahaymath 1 week ago
violence is a tool, passive or active.
nyclaus 1 week ago
Whoever believes this is a sheep themselves. Ron Paul 2012, end the fed, constitutional gov't and all that but i don't agree with these solutions at all. It's about waking up. It is each individual's responsibility to be engaging tyranny by spreading the intellectual awakening. Run for office, local or federal. Everyone! Get into the system and change it from within. Go to Washington. Go to the fed. Demand who the "1%" are and lets confront them head on. But violence is what they WANT!!
baydood510 2 weeks ago
Fuzzy feeling of being right is shared by many - Marxists, KKK, Ron Paul supporters. They assume they represent majority, but they do not. Otherwise, the voting process would do. The prescribed violent takeover can benefit different ideological groups. In case of Ron Paul Liberty movement, however, it is counter productive, because stable free-market with no state tyranny requires CONSENT.
Translation: if people want free stuff over liberty (Iowa farmers), it cannot be forced into their throat.
ForLiberty888 2 weeks ago
Hitting this "like" button is just as helpfull as those stoned hippies with their signs. Start thinking and stop listening.
Wobwobwobble 4 weeks ago
@Wobwobwobble nice sounding phrase but does that actually make sense? keep listening, but think about what you listen.
ProudGayMuslim100 3 weeks ago
Love that clip at the end
Spider58x 1 month ago
By buying and selling goods and services between ourselfs we cut the government out of the equation.
Also the elite 1% feeds of our backs by use of corporations. Everytime you buy a Coke or coffee at Starbucks, go eat at McDonalds, etc you are exploited by the top 1% that are majority owners of these corporations.
More examples:
* You can fill up your tank of gas or diesel on black/gray market.
* Car repair, autoparts, tools, computers, etc.most stuff is available on the black/gray market.
FnasketPaTorget 1 month ago
You can punish the Government/State by the dollar like one said. That mean's you starve it by stop paying taxes, cut of it's tax flow and funding as much as you can. If everyone unite around the cause the effect is amplified.
Some examples:
* Purchase all your food on the black/gray market, likely from local producers. cash payment which is untraceable.
* Purchase your clothes from the black/gray market, like privately imported clothes from asia on local markets, craiglists, e-bay, etc.
FnasketPaTorget 1 month ago
Holding Signs just shows that people still do the litmus test in some quadrant before giving nothing at all a chance...; what there doing for the human race is showing there looking for moral fiber before complete denial violence
imFlyPaper 2 months ago
Ghandi brought an important weapon to the battlefield, and that is society's reluctance to show faith in a system that will oppress an innocent man, asking no harm and doing no wrong. It makes people wake up and realize just how horrible these systems are. It forces them to show their brutal motives explicitly rather than covertly. It awakens the masses more than any act of alienating brutality. Our power comes in unity, not alienation and separation
DudeCuda 2 months ago
They have the power to bully us, they have the power to dictate the various aspects of our lives, they even have the power to cripple all that we possess in this life. The difference being, our perspectives of what that means to us. Sure, I surrender to their financial system. It's circumstance. But it actually allows me to do some good in this world. Doesn't mean I'd give a damn if they decided to delete the number in my bank account. Because it just... doesn't... matter. That's the secret.
DudeCuda 2 months ago
Also "free will" the way you think of it is an illusion. Violence is not an expression of free will, it is an expression of the primitive animal instinct.
xknowledgeisfreex 2 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex
So is peace.
ninjamario412 2 months ago 2
Ever heard of Gandhi?
xknowledgeisfreex 2 months ago
@xknowledgeisfreex
Gandhi is was a disgusting racist.
ninjamario412 2 months ago
I don't really get it. Strikes and protests regularly work if they are done over realistic goals.
TurkeyProphet 2 months ago
Right about the useless manifestation, wrong about the solution.
MatrixSaturation 2 months ago
Voting with the dollars is the best way to fight those in power... Just think what would happen if all the protesters stopped flying in protest of the TSA... Just think what would happen if all of the protesters stopped patronizing Wal-Mart because of the TSA monitors in their stores... In today's world the most effective way to change policy is with the dollar...
chimandude 2 months ago
What a depressing view of humanity.
MrWafflesMonster 2 months ago
Gandhi is the greatest enemy of any popular struggle and the best friend of any corrupted fucker in power. It's no wonder he is idolized so much by the western media. Fuck the doctrine of nonviolence.
bblokar1 3 months ago
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"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live" - Adolf Hitler, visionary
ns88ster 3 months ago
source on original audio?
sasukexx 3 months ago
@sasukexx you mean wreath of barbs or the narrator???
MrDonneiDarko 3 months ago
Good point, but what have you done with hope? "Nobody cares" man will free himself eventually.
TheLetsbegin 3 months ago
Your video was very inspirational to me. Thank you for it. We were just talking about how the media is portraying the future as horrible all the time, is this predictive programming, so that we all accept our lot? The zombie movies also can tell us a lot of how they vision the future. Masses of herd like mindless, ugly grubs going after anyone who has "brains"! lol!
MsMaggieOC 3 months ago 3
Masterpiece video. It kinda reminds me of the unabomber manifesto. That's also about free will, law of nature, freedom and technology.
IndoPindaNL 3 months ago 4
@kchen3015
In Egypt they only 'overthrew' the dictator, the Military is in place now and things only got worse from there, so things didnt work out at all.
Marcxteam 3 months ago 5
a very good speaker. anyone know where the original audio is from and who it is?
ziggelito 3 months ago
oh shit! epic beard man!
MadThad0890 4 months ago
heh, even if I proclaimed myself an anarchist, someone who values every inch of his freedom over any comfort, at times the borg eden doesn't sound too bad :/
CvijaFaQ 4 months ago
Ok, but tell me, what a few handguns or even ak47s will do against aircraft carriers, nukes and psychotronic weapons, including power of the media and money? This is nothing but provocateuring. If all the people iof the world will stop paying taxes, all goverments will fall instantly.
Quex01 4 months ago
The people of Tunisia and Egypt did not take up arms and shoot at their oppressors. No, they just waved around signs and yet they managed to overthrow their entire government. Looking outside at a sea of people disgusted with your actions is an excellent impetus to change. This is peaceful protest and revolution combined. Perhaps this video is just outdated. Egypt and Tunisia are real. Get in touch with reality.
kchen3015 4 months ago
@kchen3015
"An Egyptian Governmental Fact-Finding mission Known as " Fact-Finding National commission About 25 Jan Revolution" announced on 19 April that at least 846 Egyptians died in the nearly three week long popular uprising". 3,000 people were also reported as injured.
United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Juan Mendez reports that 300 Tunisians died and 700 were injured during the unrest.
That's not what I call a smooth and peaceful transition..
TCPPacket 4 months ago
@TCPPacket
Well, I think that the difference is that Egyptians and Tunisians were willing to die for their opinions, while the governments were willing to kill for their opinions. This video seems to encourage the use of violence as opposed to the stoic reception of violence. The Egyptian and Tunisian protesters were willing to die, but they were not so eager to kill, and they were successful.
kchen3015 4 months ago
@kchen3015
I'm not sure how long will that stoic reception of violence go on in Syria, where people get killed everyday when protesting peacefully. No signs of change there. As for Libya, armed resistance was definitively needed to oust Kaddafi.
Ultimately it seems that other factors are at play, like the determination of the leaders to stay in power at all costs, and the level of international support they get. In a historical perspective, the great majority of revolutions were not peaceful
TCPPacket 4 months ago
@TCPPacket
That is true. But transfers of power in democratic countries from party to party can also be considered revolutions. For example, when Thomas Jefferson won his election, they called it the Revolution of 1800.
When people start using violence as an argument, democracy is useless, and the result is killing peaceful protesters in places like Libya and Syria. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Why not stop being violent to begin with?
kchen3015 4 months ago
@kchen3015
Democracy is a sham. All political power comes from violence.
omegapoint777 3 months ago
@TCPPacket
btw, thank you for being intelligent and not making stupid comments. I like your reasoning.
kchen3015 4 months ago
I find it facinating how Peter Gelderloos wrote a book on the flaws of non-violent activism. Yet now, he actually supports the OWS-movement. Not only does he support it. But he supports the consensus straightjacket on the sheeple. As he did in the protests in Spain.
He most probably is just another NWO-agent just like Noam Chomsky. We`ve got to be carefull with all these anarchists. The elit seems to love giving them attention.
MetalHeadViking 4 months ago 2
Describes "Occupy Wallstreet" perfectly.
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 4 months ago 37
I WISH my garden of Eden was 7 Of 9.
voltage17121712 4 months ago
Honestly, what he is speaking of is a world of uneducated people, which is very close to the truth. BUT with education comes maturity, pacifism, problem solving skills, tolerance, and with that education disposes greed, anger, violence. Anger IS stupidity. Anger is but the result of very poor problem solving skills which, again, is the product of uneducated minds. Yes, every revolution has been the result of violent acts but that is because that's all we know. You lay in the grave you made
itripsit 4 months ago
Name of second song where he rants about free will?
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 6 months ago
This is appropriate for the anti-corruption protests in India right now
hocssn 6 months ago
There is another solution.
If people who are poor are encouraged not to breed unless the government gives them what they want. If we all abort our babies, than the government wont have a work force. The government will have to give the people what they want.
We all need to stop producing babies right now
Nuron666 6 months ago
@Nuron666 stop producing babies? are you crazy?
IWantToUnderstandIt 6 months ago 13
@IWantToUnderstandIt it can be done. We have contraceptive pills, condoms, abortion clinics.
I think only good parents should have kids. The bad ones no.
Nuron666 6 months ago
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@Nuron666 I know it can be done. But why should it be done? "than the government wont have a work force." Yes. We can blow the planet as well, so government won't have a workforce. But how is that in our interest?
IWantToUnderstandIt 6 months ago
@Nuron666 Who are you to say what is bad and what is good?
TheIGPD 5 months ago
@TheIGPD we all know what is good and what is bad.
Nuron666 5 months ago
@Nuron666 We need cultural relativism to learn from each other. So there really is no such thing as right or wrong, only learning experiences.
TheIGPD 5 months ago
@TheIGPD we already know whats right and wrong. The 10 commandments.
Killing of the innocent and stealing from strangers is wrong.
You agree on that right.
Nuron666 5 months ago
@Nuron666 The 10 Commandments=pseudo religious bullshit
DrNaturalPhenomena 5 months ago
@DrNaturalPhenomena even if you dont believe in religion, surely you must agree with some of the rules of the 10 commandments like not to murder, adultery, tell lies, steal etc...
These are fundamental rules that are practised by every religion including atheists.
Without these rules Europe would be a totally different place today. We would not be as civilised as we are now.
Nuron666 5 months ago
@Nuron666 Are you stupid? The 10 commandments is a simple procreation of the work of the 6000 year old "Hindu" religio, which by the way, was the creater of morality.
Because the bible says not to murder doesn't mean that you can't have that perspective and give a fuck about the bible.
Without religion in Humanity we would have been FAR more civilized, further on the evolutionary ladder.
Scientists suggest up to 1000 year further than now. So fuck you and your book of scam.
All written before
DrNaturalPhenomena 5 months ago
@DrNaturalPhenomena look I am not a believer in Christianity or any other religion. But we have to give credit where credit is due.
Before christianity came to Europe. Pagan worship was a lot more brutal. Incest was very common. There were many cases of cannibalism during pagan times.
Human sacrifice was going on. There were all sorts of uncivilised activities taking place.
Yes you could argue Christianity copied other cultures etc..
But without christianity we would not be so advanced.
Nuron666 5 months ago
@Nuron666 I agree with you on the pre-Europe, however, there where many other reasons we became civilised. But again, I agree, just remember there are always multiple sides and perspectives.
DrNaturalPhenomena 5 months ago
@Nuron666 during the pre-era of christianity, motherhood was holy and protected, not during christianity.
canapebordeaux 5 months ago
@canapebordeaux you say motherhood was holy and protected before Christianity came to Europe.
But we dont know that. We know that there was a lot of INCEST going on. Cannibalism was going on.
Those times were quite often harsh and brutal.
People like you like to paint a pretty picture of past history. The reality was not good
Nuron666 5 months ago
@DrNaturalPhenomena The ten commandments form the basis of the morals you must likely adhere to in your daily life.
xgncmx 5 months ago
This is a bit depressing
Nuron666 6 months ago
So are you fighting?
TheNaturalBaby 6 months ago
@TheNaturalBaby I don't think this video is an attempt to change anything, it's an attempt to make all the so called activists realize that they are stupid with their jumping on the streets with some idiotic, illogical slogans.
IWantToUnderstandIt 6 months ago
I cant believe what im hearing! Your train of thought is no better then those you want to retaliate against! If you want to stop the want to stop the same bullshit and war from happening over and over again, we have to change the way we aproach the problems. If you kick the shit out of someone for calling you a dickhead, theyre still going to think your a dickhead afterwards. It doesnt solve the problem. All it takes is for people to stand together and say "you wont control us anymore"
book1a 6 months ago
@book1a Now that was one large load of bullshit! What type of sedative are you on? You completely missed the video's point.
bxjam85 6 months ago
@bxjam85 It wasnt bullshit. Disjointed yes. Its hard to explain any real idea well in these stupid little text boxes. If I missed the point, tell me what it is, cause all I heard was "Theyre screwing us over. Dont be a winging hippy and blow shit up!"
book1a 6 months ago
@book1a It sounds like you just heard what you wanted to hear. The man is saying that violence is a part of life. Holding hands and singing with fellow hippies isn't going to solve anything. Peace protests wouldn't have stopped Hitler when he was conquering Europe. Of course you don't always have to resort to violence, but sometimes you must! You're never going to convince everyone to be peaceful pacifists, therefore you should prepare for violence to defend yourself and those you love.
bxjam85 6 months ago
@bxjam85 OK. 1. There no way I 'wanted to hear' anyone inciting people to give the powers that be a cause to screw us over even more. If your view of the video is correct, then I agree with it. 2. Violence is 'A part of life' only because it is part of the enviroment we perpetuate. Scientific fact. Nature because of nurture. Look it up! 3. In no fucking way am I a hippy or on sedatives. Attack my ideas if you dont agree with. Do it personaly and youll find out how un-fuckin hippy-like I am.
book1a 6 months ago
@book1a You're not a pacifistic hippy?! Congratulations, but that's the feeling you gave with your first comment and that's why I responded. How u missed the guy's point is beyond me. Was he too mean or something? Human violence isn't a mere result of culture. Culture simply manipulates the human propensity for violence. It's deeply rooted in our evolutionary biology and some of us are NATURALLY more violent than others.
bxjam85 6 months ago
@book1a Also, watch two other videos titled "The Noble Savage" and "Survival of the Fittest" if you haven't already.
bxjam85 6 months ago
Sorry bro, I'm signing up with the Borg. If I play my cards right, they won't give a shit about giving me one of their "Individuality intact" models.
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 7 months ago
who are the soldiers holding the Barret .50 cal at 4:20?
Revbone450 7 months ago
@Revbone450 It is the mexican GAFE unit.
VeritasVincitOmnia 6 months ago
All contributions count.
You never know which straw will be the one to break the camel's back.
Maybe it will be the one YOU add.....
TheChutzpahGirl 7 months ago
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LederhosenJohnny80 7 months ago
Those fucking dumb hippies! god dammit!
deviantcreep 7 months ago
you guys are so so sad.
TheMrJesse 7 months ago
A holdup man seeks to gain wealth by killing me; I do not grow richer by killing a holdup man. I seek no values by means of evil, nor do I surrender my values to evil. You see statists often giving ultimatums like "Your wealth or your life." or "Your country or your life." We have our own: Our work or your guns. You can choose either; you can't have both. We do not initiate the use of force against others or submit to force at their hands.
FreeEcon 7 months ago
@FreeEcon You are aware that if you do kill him having taken over the situation, you might convert him to your ways. Not all men are vil, some are just stupid. Evil is this media we have today. Peace is the way.
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious Whatever is open to disagreement, there is one act of evil that is not, the act that no man may commit against others and no man may sanction or forgive. So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate—in other words, no man may start—the use of physical force against others.
FreeEcon 7 months ago
@FreeEcon On the use of physical force being bad I can only agree with you, however there are things that the wicked can do that cangenerate retaliation, as enforcement of wrong laws, psychological toruture and ideological harassment (peer pressure) for instance., in fact coward minds are keen to abuse religion, politics, and law to make others suffer. Not disagreeing with you, just considering other possibilities that could lead to justified physical agression, if there is such a thing.
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious To enforcing wrong laws and psychological torture, that would fall under aggression, and would necessitate retaliation.
"Harassment" just means whatever you want it to mean. You could be harassing me right now, right?
FreeEcon 7 months ago
@FreeEcon To harass is to force continuous contact, I am merely replying to your comments. :)
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious To interpose the threat of physical destruction between a man and his perception of reality, is to negate and paralyze his means of survival; to force-him to act against his own judgment, is like forcing him to act against his own sight. Whoever, to whatever purpose or extent, initiates the use of force, is a killer acting on the premise of death in a manner wider than murder: the premise of destroying man's capacity to live.
FreeEcon 7 months ago
There must be a distinction here. Only aggression is evil. Retaliation is not only permittable, but obligatory. So initation of force is immoral. When a man attempts to deal with me by force, I answer him—by force. o, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own. He uses force to seize a value; I use it only to destroy destruction.
FreeEcon 7 months ago
@FreeEcon "an eye for an eye would live the whole world blind" Althought I do understand your right to defend yourself, however many abuse that right. Once the opponent is subdued or even before if you can, you contact authorities. This is the right way to do it. Not saying that if you have no other chance but to "destroy" that you shoud not do it, I am just saying that there are usually opportunities not to "destroy".
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious I said PHYSICAL force. Harassment is not physical force, and if it is, does that mean I can retaliate against you.
Are you implying that I "sink to their level" when I use force against force? Honestly, the only reason we need the police to do this is because that way it is easier for us. We don't have to deal with them
FreeEcon 7 months ago
So Gandhi never happened folks, Jesus never was... ...people never listened to common sense and they never rather had children and built from there than pick up a hatchet and bury it on their neighbour skull... Soldiers threw grenades at officers because the protests at home, English gave up India because hindus decided simply to protest. Gandhi united India and brought the english to their knees without firing a single shot. Using guns are only good for the gun industries.
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious
Read the video info section before posting the usual sanctified drivel for the masses on Gandhi. Read about the Indian Rebellion of 1857, for example.
Soldiers in Vietnam didn't throw grenades on their officers "because of the protests at home", they did so because -- unlike the protesters back home -- they were sent to their deaths by incompetent officers in a losing war . Do you even think for a tiny while before posting?
jokerjack9 7 months ago
@jokerjack9 and what would you know about that? SOldiers have always been sent to their deaths since the dawn of humankind, The french before the americans stood ground and were slaughtered to the point of oblivion so this is why they left, the americans were being influenced by the hippie movement from home, alledging it was not the case is not knowing your own history. It was the "question authority" mindset that made them do what they did. Why do you want to minimise the peace movement?
lordlicious 7 months ago
@lordlicious
You think soldiers need hippies to question authority? Where do you get this stuff, Bugs Bunny? We 'minimize' the peace movement, because its net results are non-existent.
Ah, crap. I went to your channel and just realized I'm talking to a kid. What a waste of time.
All right, then, I'm done here. Say no to drugs and stay in school.
jokerjack9 7 months ago
@jokerjack9 1) "Bunny" who the heck you think you are "old fart". 2) Yes, hippies question authority.still today, Yoko Ono is still active despite Lennon being shot and alternative communities are finally managing to break legal grounds with the problem of drug abuse inserted by government people in order to corrupt the ideology of peace and love is being slowly brushed aside. 3) Age is not a sign of intelligence as I can see. But what would you know about it, you seem arrogantly ignorant.
lordlicious 7 months ago
@jokerjack9 4) I still dont understand what being a "kid" has to do with being right or wrong, do you assume that age makes you right by default? How old are you so I can put someone older than you to tell you what Im telling you? You know nothing about what you are saying and as an ignorant dumb person (regardless of age gender or religion) youare wrong on all your claims. But Jeez, perhaps bogotry age and gender can protect you with some magic shield against the reality. lmao.
lordlicious 7 months ago
@jokerjack9 So I am a man on my fourties telling you that the hippie movement has the element of questioning authorities (at least untill government toned it down with drugs) and that it was much probably one of the reasons that american soldiers (wearing the peace sign) started to shout back (or throw hand grenades) at bad commanders, now how old are you kid, so I can patronise you as much as you tried to do with the "Kid" who dared questioning this absurd, hate mongering filth of a video?
yanpagh 7 months ago
@jokerjack9 You are aware that Gandhi had not yet been born on 1857 and therefore never participated on an event that happened years before his birth, right? I do understand that the creator of this hate speech video might think that the hippie movement is a left wing fallacy, hence the "opiate of..." (referring to Marx "the opiate of religion" , well I hate Marx and anything to do with communism because they preach hatred and the need to kill everyone who disagrees with them. Peace is the way.
lordlicious 7 months ago
have to ask you, do you practice what you preach? almost be like a real life tyler durden
voltaire812 8 months ago
@EVONINJA01
How very cowardly...
omegapoint777 8 months ago
Read what Gandhi says instead of reading what he's done
he clearly states that non violence is the best solution in his opinion BUT he said FIGHTING was better than acceptance or running away
ey1990e 8 months ago
@EVONINJA01
It's not against peace, it's against pacification.
NOUFGT 8 months ago
hahahaha wake up to violent blood soaked reality! Pacifist idiots!
nephildevil 8 months ago
@nephildevil this is coming from a belgian satanist who is obsessed with knives and swords... I'm sure Belgium is a violent blood soaked reality.... lol. Or maybe that reality is just in your close-minded head.
SirGeorge8600 8 months ago
@SirGeorge8600
Perhaps your mind is so open your brains have fallen out...
Of course it isn't REALLY open, since you discount violence completely with no logical foundation behind that reasoning.
omegapoint777 8 months ago
Civil Disobedience. As soon as enough people "wake up" and choose to stop participating in the machine, the gears will stop turning. I agree that we must prepare for action, but to say that Peace and Free Will are incompatible is just nonsense.
RasJiveRockin 9 months ago
@RasJiveRockin
Civil Disobedience has never achieved anything. There was ALWAYS the implied threat of violence.
omegapoint777 8 months ago
Violence may lead to change. But those that take over were the ones with the most guns and are usually the most radical!
Parastoo84 9 months ago
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MetalHeadViking 9 months ago
amazing point. so obvious. i mean lets look at the word PRO-TEST. It basically means " I AM ALL FOR - TESTING, THIS IDEA OF YOURS". Its bullshit. Need to step it up a little. We need to be smarter sharper than them. They have fucking nukes and guns and all sorts. What the fuck is a sign. It doesn't mean SHIT
ILLUSIONATI 10 months ago
Wrong. And this is bad advice for protesters.
(because for 1, the Liberals are Che Guverra screwy,
and for 2, because the country's a potential powder keg already)
Give the right an excuse to go apeshit and it'l be the biggest and last
mistake the left ever makes.
Zendout1 10 months ago
@Zendout1 let them be
grengerx 9 months ago
Lovin' what he was saying until he started going DURR KURZWEIL ILLUMINATI
Inurdaes 10 months ago
Who is speaking in this ?
InvestigateTheLies 11 months ago
realism at its best, excelent
Mithicus 11 months ago 21
Well this video makes for a self-fulfilling prophesy, if I every saw one...
Naturally, reacting violently to violence is the opposite of free will. It's the instinct of a hurt and frightened animal. As you don't want to see yourself as such, you rationalize it, projecting your fear unto others. Yes, there are other frightened animals out there, but there are also many who are not. Those are the pacifists.
So I would rather say: Until there is free will, there will always be violence.
Jardarny 11 months ago
@Jardarny
And some hurt animals curl up and play dead, which is what pacifists do.
What's wrong with violence anyway?
omegapoint777 9 months ago
@omegapoint777 I see no need to go into a discussion on whether there is something inherently wrong with violence in itself. What is obvious however, is that violence is a symptom of something being wrong. Violent behaviour is observed in people who for some reason - often that they have been the subject of violent behavious themselves - are socially and mentally underdeveloped. One can also see this in oneself: When does one feel compelled to violence? When one is happy and content?
Jardarny 9 months ago
@Jardarny An example could actually be myself at this moment. Finding that you disagree with me, i feel threatened, and an urge to reply sarcastically, like i did the first time, comes along. It's nothing wrong with it, it's just the way we react. Being aware of this does to a certain degree dispel it though. But as you notice, i'm perhaps not as free from violent instincts as i may like to think. So i'd like to apologize, and tell you that i meant you no harm. I simply disagree.
Jardarny 9 months ago
@Jardarny Great points! I worry however that by diagnosing violence so strongly as a psychological issue runs the risk of losing sight of any social/structural problems which may have aggravated it. Theoretically, is there no legitimate time & place for violence as a means to prevent tyranny when words simply aren't enough; if pacifism unwittingly becomes appeasement? Now, where & when that point is, I make no claim, but that such a time doesn't exist at all, I struggle with. Respects :)
TagManpants 9 months ago
@omegapoint777 Here's what's wrong with violence...if I break into your house and paint your walls with your brains with my 12-gauge....you probably wouldn't be too happy about it.... lol but the fact you're weary about it as long as it doesn't happen to you means that something is obviously wrong.....unless you admit to your judgement about not wanting to die is meaningless.
SirGeorge8600 8 months ago
@SirGeorge8600
You still haven't shown in any way what is inherently wrong with violence.
I bet you are absolutely ok when police use violence to arrest criminals and put them in cages for the rest of their lives.
Maybe the Jews could have protested against their mistreatment in prison camps?
omegapoint777 8 months ago
As someone else pointed out already, isn't what you're doing a form of sign waving? Where's your legacy of violent resistance? I totally agree with your message, but as long as we're sitting in our chairs discussing about what SHOULD be done nothing is really happening and we're losing more and more freedom every day. Just stop complaining and start doing something instead. Lead and I will follow.
OutOfTheBoxThinker 11 months ago
@OutOfTheBoxThinker Wow that's a double negative...I'm about to make it into a triple- negative and say why the fuck aren't YOU doing anything just sitting in your chair telling others not to sit in their chairs why you "lead" ....
SirGeorge8600 8 months ago
@SirGeorge8600 : One of my best friends is now awaiting trial for a "terrorism" charge because he was trying to make a difference. Unlike him, I don't have a rich father who can support me when I can't pay my bills. Unlike him, I can't affort to stay unemployed for several years. I need to keep my job. I need to stay low profile for the time being. I can't risk a "terrorism" charge right now.
I tried Internet activism in the past, though, much like NXShell is doing here. It was just pointless.
OutOfTheBoxThinker 8 months ago
this person has it so right!from when we were single organisms till now ,its never been changed . only the victor tells his story !!!!!!!!!!! be a victor or fertilizer!.we are all the same to a degree.but what way we end up, is up to us....never forget we are not just human. we are earthlings ,every living thing on this plant , battles fights and destroys anything that does not help in its own progressivism
robizm 11 months ago
when the 3rd world war begins shall men see that violince the only options is and there is a war going on right now for our mind.But the 3rd world war is comming! Arm yourself to the teeth get food an water! prepare for warfare!
lojhk010 11 months ago 14
Is this video itself not just another form of "sign"? It's the same thing ... presentation of information to make a bunch of people think in a different way. So this video is another "sign waving" and yet the video says signs are useless ... kind of a paradoxical situation.
If only parents and the teenagers knew some of the stuff I have learned, they would never join the militaries and fight for the greed of a few under the guise of so-called "freedom-bringing". Freedom for Walmarts in Iraq
zetetic0void 1 year ago
@zetetic0void No one here supports joining the millitary, studying warfare is not the same as being a slave to some Zionist extremist..
TheSlovenc123 11 months ago
I see your point, but violent behavior without the backing of the public is seen as terrorism. Signs and protests can inspire and get the backing of the public, then the behavior can be seen as heroism.
JohnPhillipsUK 1 year ago
I don't know if I already told you but I love you, man - and I'm a heterosexual male! LoL
stratocandy9 1 year ago
there must be a way to take down the new world order
pinball281 1 year ago
Go and get yourself killed by the anti riot police now.
nemesisdesign 1 year ago
Ghandi, violent?
lethologic 1 year ago
@lethologic Ghandi, relevant?
MrDonneiDarko 4 months ago
@MrDonneiDarko The ma who supported Adolph Hitler War against the English Empire. The man who disowned his son when he came out of the closet . Or the Ghandi who thought all dark skinned indians were niggers
TThorne931 4 months ago 4
YES - WE ARE GUIDED BY VERY, VERY EVIL PEOPLE ON THE TOP - THEY ARE ALL SATANISTS - they rape children, drink their blood from living body... in satanic rituals which prepare them to "guide" us - we have to eliminate them!
gifteconomy12 1 year ago
This was one of your finest videos in a long series of excellent videos.
sixbillionmorons 1 year ago
I feel like a big "meh"
towards this
SteampunkPagan 1 year ago
@SteampunkPagan you are consumerist swine, so your views are not surprising or "provocative"
LeviathanOrb 1 year ago
@LeviathanOrb
His philsophy is not new or orginal. If anyone looks at the history of Homo sapain's as a speices. We are prone to greatness and to evil.
Pacificism is just like all forms of change, it either works or doesn't.
SteampunkPagan 1 year ago
@SteampunkPagan Paganism is not something new or original... why your labeled yourself "pagan"?
Paganism was active, "cruel" and natural faith... chubby pigs like you, which PREACH about passivity and other degenerative things, don't carry the Pagan Spirit
LeviathanOrb 1 year ago
@LeviathanOrb
Wow way to reach out and try to push buttons, notice "try".
Your in no way some sort of freedom fighter. Your a bully who guards him self in pusdo-philsophy based on false concept of soical Darwinism.
As I've said humans are a speices of great ability; both good and evil. You also failed to noticed "Paficism either works or DOESN'T"
Also as why I call my self pagan? Because I was neopagan when I made this channel.
The Ehtnic religions of Europe do not call themselve such.
SteampunkPagan 1 year ago
@SteampunkPagan learn to spell... retard.
"pusdo-philsophy", "soical Darwinism". This is great example for how smart you are. You are "special", that's for sure ;)
LeviathanOrb 1 year ago
@LeviathanOrb
Ehhhhh
meh
enjoy your facism.
SteampunkPagan 1 year ago
@SteampunkPagan don't be a sausage-swallower. Fascism is just Radical Socialism, i am FA activist.
Modern Witches for burning are called... the nazis. NaziSozi Ideology is the only taboo in west
LeviathanOrb 1 year ago
I enjoyed this video. I guess one link to pacifism is the increasing feminineness of our society. There's almost nothing on tv for a man to watch anymore.
powpanda 1 year ago
Protesting is usefull when you are going to riot at the protest with a big group
catbakkorrel 1 year ago
WAR BEGETS WAR, IT HAS TO END. YOU FIGHT BACK AND THE FIGHT NEVER ENDS.
worldchange1 1 year ago
lock and load your gun!
lojhk010 1 year ago
I am not a warrior... In fact I would gladly become Borg. But of course the Borg =/= the society the elites want to create; Although the aspect of control is there, the efficiency, uniformity are not (ie. the elites would not be subject to the same lack of individuality as everyone else).
Scientisticsoviet 1 year ago
Interesting.
Perfect example, Tunisia just used massive (mostly) non-violent protests -sticks and stones - to overthrow their corrupt dictator. Then when they organized into neighborhood watches to protect their communities from looters and rogue elements within their country.
Perfect of example of how after massive nonviolent action, there must be people who have the knowledge of how their enemies will respond, and are actively engaging them.
Moodang1985 1 year ago
@Moodang1985
But they won after Ben Ali realized that they will use violence and the army would join the protesters and all this would end in a huge civial war mess. Then he gave up. They were willing to fight, willing to set themself on flames and willing to die. Huge fighters and not the have a good time and wear a rainbow T-shirt hippies.
llothar68 1 year ago
I don't know about free will necessarily leading to violence. I think that free will has thus far led us into a world where violence is produced by free will, but I think with the proper amount of love, generosity, kindness and openness that can be reversed too.
Moodang1985 1 year ago
Great video. Peaceful protests never solved anything.
Fight the System.
celticrossa 1 year ago
@celticrossa What happens once we defeat the system? If we design a new system properly should we fight it too?
Ormaaj 1 year ago
@Ormaaj Should we fight? It would be a better world with no fighting. But its human nature. In there was a better system there would be less if any wars.
celticrossa 1 year ago
The Hopi's say the great change cannot come about through forcing your will against others. I see the natural progression of the increased spiritual awareness of humanity, will lead to peace, this is already happening.
Escapecapitalism 1 year ago
Trying to put the discourse of nature into a vigelence of mind priority is about fashion not creation. Sloth will always rebuke itself when comes to solidarity. In terms of relation how much chaos will breed depends on direction. For palatial aristocracy will show forth wit and divide till nothing remains. Resistance is the only par to see what comes about. You cannot kill philosophy, it is only met with reason to which ploys rank to a decision of lost cause. A fashion of indignation is better.
in2dionysus 1 year ago
What are the goals of the global oppressor? 1) Social control--CHECK 2) Political control--CHECK 3) Economic Control--LOADING...Please wait passively
nofxmike06 1 year ago
This makes a good point. Non-violence only works as an initial message but fails once violence is used against it. Did Gahndi's belief in non-violence protect him from the bullet that came for him? We are living in a time of violence without restraint. We would all be wise enough to become knowledgable in combat and what society considers "violence." Such knowledge empowers the individual and they stop accepting the role of the victim. If we want to stop TPTB then we must no longer be victims
TheBoxingnun 1 year ago
violence begets violence. the need for violence is not the question; it's "who is your enemy". peaceful demonstration changes opinions within all the compartmentalized sectors of society and forces the truth to reveal it's self to the otherwise oblivious, and that's where the real battle lies within the hearts and minds of each individual.
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0BS4U 1 year ago
Violent revolution has been off the table for decades. The only hope lies in peaceful civil disobedience - abandoning their currency, which, if successful, will lead to violence on the part of the oppressor, which will require a courageous population to continue disobeying. The oppressor knows they can't kill all of their subjects, doing so is self-defeating. The only obstacle we have to conquer is fear - realize that consciousness is paradoxical and death should not be feared.
jakigi 1 year ago
This is only relevan