I had a discussion with someone who claimed that the reducing atmosphere, which is assumed by the Miller-Urey-Experiment, did not actually exist and he gave an article as a reference, J.Levine New Ideas about the Early Atmosphere, NASA Special Report, No.225, Langley Research Centre, August 11, 1983. All my searches lead to various Creationist sites, but not the article itself. Apologies if you've dealt with this in an earlier video.
@bonham1981 -- There is still uncertainty about the oxygen content of the primordial atmosphere. I don't know the article you refer to, but it should be on the NASA website. Your friend should know that the Miller-Urey experiment is over half a century old. Perhaps he should get up to date with more recent discoveries.
Darwin's 'On the Origin of species' etc can be read free at Project Gutenberg org. For more on science & nature try books by top scientists Richard Dawkins, ' Unweaving the rainbow ' & ' The greatest show on earth ' & PZ Meyers , Victor Stenger, website Talkorigins, Try John C. Lennox V Peter Atikins debate on youtube. Also on Youtube BonoboBill, evidence of common ancestry: human chromosome 2. Also Ken Miller on Pariskillton. Also try reading about endogenous retrovirus & provirus.
@gespilk What IS primordal soup. If you answer that question you are only one step away from finding out why there is none around today. As fro DNA/RNA replecating outside an organism. This would require enzymes. Enzymes are proteins. Proteins in the environment will be eaten...
You have a circular logic here.Where the first proteins then came from?And how conveniently they turn out to be enzymes to facilitate further replication?And even if the enzymes were not the first miraculously appearing proteins then what were the first proteins and how they evolved to enzymes.
Why would the proteins happen in the first place.There was no evolutionary advantage from the molecule point of view.Another Accident?The 21 amino acids just hang around and wait their turn?
@gespilk Proteins are a function of DNA. Do you know anything about genetics? You are asking questions that could EASILY be answered by READING a little. IF you have a nucleotide chain that codes for an enzyme that is helpful in replicating DNA then it will also be helpful in the replication of itself. If you are now wondering "But how does the chain of nucleotides that codes for the enzyme come into existence in the first place" then you have to read into the subject...
Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there. Think before writing, please.
@gespilk "Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there."
Not ANY other self replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will also aid in the replication of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
@gespilk "Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there. Think before writing, please."
Not ANY self-replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will aid in the replication of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
@gespilk Not ANY self replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will aid in the replictaion of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
2:25 "Some imperfectly copied molecules would have been better adapted to the environment. These successful molecules would continue to replicate and ...."
LOL: Could you define what molecule better adapted to the environment means?
3:58 You mean to say it is just a far fetched hypothesis but we have nothing better to work with. --- How about some computer modelling to evolve cells from basic chemicals. We are doing it for the Universe. Surely we can do it for the cell???
@gespilk Evolution does not treat the Origin of life, rather the vast complexity of it. You're talking about the field of Abiogenesis. We can make certain protein chains just by combining the atmosphere and conditions of the then-earth, the stuff of life created naturally, hinting us in a direction of a natural cause of life.
I would advice on withholding judgement on the existence and claims of gods since empirical evidence both tells and hints us to a path where our origins are natural.
Where are the computer simulations then?Not the animations, the simulations.
All we hear are prolong explanations, diagrams, animations of how it happens, but not simulations.We do simulations of the entire universe but not of the emergence of cells.
It almost feels as if there has been intervention of some kind.How the information was created?All components to be in the right proportions, at the right place to create self replicating molecules that would cover the planet somehow???
@gespilk Seeing as how you are so obcessed with computer models why don't you go and learn computer programming then tell us why we CAN'T have a computer model for that rather than grilling people who arn't computer programmers over why THEY can't furnish you with one?
All I am saying is that there are many gaps in the explanations provided in this video.And one way to expose them is to try to model all the processes the speaker talks about.
Take for example what he says about "better adapted molecules" at 2:25.Somehow conveniently the environment is such that "the better adapted",to do what(?),molecules become more complex and begin to code information? Unless someone can demonstrate that and other claims it is only science preaching gospel.
@gespilk I think you are misunderstanding the point. The molecules are self replicating and therefor molecules that are better at replicating in a given environment will dominate that environment. IF higher degrees of complexity are advantageous, and possible, then the molecules, nessecarily, will become more complex over time. The gaps in the explanation of as unto how this process occured are just details. The principles of self replication HAVE been demonstarted: this is NOT preaching...
And how exactly the quantitative build up you are talking about (many of the same type molecules) would become qualitative leap (a gene)?
"Better at replicating" means what - More stable and do not fall apart or something else? We would end up with one molecule to rule them all. Then what? Random accidents again?suddenly genes?
It seems the whole of life is a very long chain of amazing coincidences of convenient environment and chemical bonds. I do not believe in that much luck.
@gespilk You want to talk about chance now? Well if you think it improbable then firstly you have to calculate what the probability life ariseing spontaneously IS. You have to look at the size of the universe and the number of different compounds and the quantities of each; then calculate the probability of the particular combination of compounds found on the early earth coming together by chance. Then you look at the number of occurences of this (or at least similar ones) in the universe--->
@gespilk Why should I say "Drake Equation"? That is not what I was alluding to. And what makes you think that the "Frermi Paradox" is "on my line of thinking"? You think abiogenisis is improbable: I was pointing out that you do not have enough information to conclude that it IS improbable - that has nothing to do with the Drake Equation...
@gespilk <--- Ofcourse this is not possible because there is still lots we don't know about the universe. Anywho, if you read the last chapter of dawkins' "The Ancestors Tale". He explains it wonderfully. Far more detail than I dare go into here. The above video is marked (for schools). You may wish to take that into concideration... happy reading :D
@gespilk It absolutely is explained by a 'Darwinian process'. A self replicating molecule BY DEFINITION is subject to evolution. Given it satisfies other criteria such as variation of the success of replication between individuals
@gespilk =These are not multicellular organisms.= No, they are self-replicating molecules. =Until we explain how that happens god will exist.= Well, since we can explain very well how that happens (read an advanced biochemistry book), I guess god doesn't exist. You said it.
I hate to be "a stick in the wheel" but if we know then where are the SIMULATIONS?
There are, in all those books, plenty of colourful diagrams and complicatedly explained chemical processes and yet if we are to claim that we understand the evolutionary processes we need to produce SIMULATIONS.
Up to date I am not aware of the existence of such software that can create complete ecosystems from basic chemicals by applying the knowledge gathered in all the books you kindly mentioned.
basically what this video says is that a bunch of molecular LEGOs (without even having any explanation for why they have connector nubs) rubbed together during a flood, and connected themselves, then, once a LEGO ball got to big for its own britches, it broke, and then and the broken halves rebuilt the missing parts, and then they broke again, and this process repeated, until they started running into each other again, but then they formed stronger structures, and first LEGO Amoeba was born???
Yeah basically.... sorry but you cant leave those plastic (that takes so long to break down) alone, if you see 2 Lego pieces connected together, and they aren't in someone's collection... break them apart immediately... so that they don't multiply further!
@gespilk >>Could you define what molecule better adapted to the environment means?
Don't tax Potboiler with questions he can't answer and barely understands! He isn't a scientist, he's just a reporter who doesn't understand evolution in any depth.
In any case, the entire basis of this video is nonsense. An origin of life based on RNA is highly improbable because of the conditions in the pre-biotic environment.
@sallyamis firstly, he answered the question anyway, secondly he's a science reporter, thirdly he understands evolution in more depth than most people, thirdly he does have a science degree, fourthly you don't have to be a scientist to know about science. Being a science reporter he's obviously read vast amounts of the science literature.
@gespilk We've done it now. Or J Craig Venter's team has done it. And his computer made sigle celled life-form is multiplying and doing just swell.: ) Next gap for "God" to hide in that we can remove, please?:)
@gespilk We've done it now. Or J Craig Venter's team has done it. And his computer made sigle celled life-form is multiplying and doing just swell.: ) Next gap for "God" to hide in that we can remove, please?:)
God is Awesome. Let us all turn to the Creator who made all that was, and is, and is to come. God says in the bible--"Rejoice and be glad in what I have made". Let us all admire God's creation and praise God for it."
@Turn2God4 Hope Wy don't we turn to Thor? Or Hoth? or the rainbow serpent? Do you make sure your dying relatives are stabbed with a spear before they die so they may live with Odin in the afterlife?
The "Origin of Life hypothesis" is NOT part of the Theory of Evolution. The foundation of science is observation, we can make observations of evolution, but there has yet to be any observations of the origins of life, Origins is still just pure speculation. Life can only come from life, this is the foundation of biology. Why do we not see life spontaneously arising today?
@tetekofa In fact, there are prions and viruses, that share both non-living and living characteristics. When they get more complicated, to the point of respecting the requirement of being called "life", they're called bacteria. That means that life does not arise spontaneously, but by a long way of living-and-nonliving forms. Why doesn't it happen 2day? In fact, we don't know if it's happening, but it would be hard to happen, since there is a lot of other living forms that make competition
Ha All of you super scientists are so physical. and dickheads at that.
The DNA structure is created by the vibration of the living organism called the universe. Try to work out why. I know you cant ! Why? Because your to damn physical and again your dickheads and think with it. With what?. You think with your dicks.
Ha All of you super scientists are so physical. and dickheads at that.
The DNA structure is created by the vibration of the living organism called the universe. Try to work out why. I know you cant ! Why? Because your to damn physical and again your dickheads and think with it. With what?. You think with your dicks.
@teslaglobal Anyone who can´t form a proper sentence and has no idea of grammar has not place calling others ´dickheads.´ Your or You´re...to vs too...again your vs you´re...these are things one learns in grade 3...wow...and you call othes names...wow...this is one of the most ironic comments I´ve ever read. How did they even let you use a computer??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ok so i dont have a PDh in any of this BS but explain to me this so i can get this right (in all seriousness),ok so the sun looses like somewere around 250,000 pounds of matter avery second (or somewere around that #) and if everything just went BOOM! and hapenned (and if the earth is several billion years old) that would make the sun frekaing huge...which means we would have been in the sun billions of years ago...so we formed out of the sun....hmmmm...hahahahahahahahah
@MrZmac907 The sun actually loses far more mass per secound. But since it is orders of magnitudes larger and further away from us than you seem to believe, that isn't a problem. Do the calculation.
Great video but this is still too hard for your average creationist fundy! Make a video with big letters and words no longer than 5 letters and MAYBE you'll get across to creationists!
@merjobrothers I'm afraid I don't understand your reply. If you know the origin of life, then if you had the time and energy to make a youtube video, that would be great. I'm trying to learn this subject, so I will take all the information I can.
However, I may have drastically misunderstood the content of your reply to me. If I have, then I apologize.
I really enjoied this video. I have always wondered what the scientific explination for the origin of life is. I have spoken to many people who are on their way to becomming scientists, and all of them gave me the same answer..."We have no idea". You are the first person to exlain it in a clear and easy to understand mannor.
This is the 2nd video of yours that I have watched, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are you planning on making more videos that deal with this subject?
@truthforchrist -- "but are you planning on making more videos that deal with this subject?" -- Thanks, I will be doing more vids on evolution in the future. I suggest you watch the "Made Easy" series first, in chronological order. This will take you from the beginning of the universe to the human migration out of Africa.
@potholer54 Atheist morons need to learn basic chemistry and Homochirality if they life could happen by chance and time,first life by chance would be its own Paradox..and could never happen..science has reached a dead end..only stubborn atheist think it can happen purely by time and chance,even evolution scientists know simple chemicals cant make life..proteins will only use the LEFT handed variety of amino acids,the RNA and DNA will only use Right acids
@5tonyvvvv This coming from someone who understands chemistry and life. Ha ha ha. You have no idea what you are talking about. It's very funny to read.
@artblack01 great answer u dumb fuck..u dont know what Homochirality.like most people why did the Miller experiment,fail???..do u know why amino acids right and left are toxic to life and not one single cell was created..like u have the answers,,next u will tell me Venter made life by coping pre existing information,u dont know shit moron!!!!
@5tonyvvvv Wow, great response!!! So Articulate, so Scholarly, it really clearly showed the flaws in my logic and understanding of life in general, I think you are right, God must have gone done it, he's so good at shit like that. You certainly know more than I do, you must have like 12 PHDs in science to understand even my own understanding of the subject without having ever met me or knowing what I have learned in my studies.
@5tonyvvvv You guys really don't understand the different varieties of chemical compounds that compose the structures of different forms of life, like bacteria, or plants or animal so on. If the reference to the "Miller Experiment" is all you have to go on you really did miss the boat. And your only defense is to call me a moron, GOOD JOB!!! You are entertaining.
@5tonyvvvv So what is your explanation? "ummm, God gone and done it you stupid fuck!" Really? Is that the extent of your understanding? Wow, you are fucking smart! I can really see your PHD in Chemistry now. You are such a Scholar. You must be rich too for being so smart. I am impressed..... not.
The people who told you that we have no idea - including Dawkins, for that matter - are telling the truth. This video is a fantasy scenario with no connection with established scientific research.
@sallyamis "The people who told you that we have no idea - including Dawkins"
Unless you are a molecular biologist I'm sure most people have no idea. As a layperson the fact that science is working on the problem and already have a number of ideas of how life arose must be commended. It is possible there are many ways life could have arisen. Hopefully one day we will have a better understanding of which is correct.
It certainly won't be an invisible magic man in the sky!
God laughs at how man tries so desperately to exclude Him out of the picture. Everyone knows that life comes from life. Hmmmmmmm, God is alive and He created life. May every man be found a liar and may God be found true. God is truth. Seek Him while He may be found and call upon God while He is near. Near means before you die and it's too late to seek God.
@Turn2God4Hope At what point did you witness God laughing? That would be fascinating or this that statement yet another assumption born out of popular religious presuppositions? And if man is the liar, how come so much of the Bible is wrong and contradictory? Seems like the authors of the Bible did plenty of lying themselves. Finally, if the Bible is the source of your faith, does it make any sense to look to terrorists and mass murderers (like Moses) for moral guidance?
@Turn2God4Hope - White noise. You just claim God did it and offer no sort of a theory of how that is really what happened. You have nothing but a tome written a few thousand years ago but stupified peasants living in desert tribes. WEAK
@Turn2God4Hope Well, man tried to include him in the explanation but could never find a need for such a thing. The only people who say "God did it" are the people not looking for the answers to any questions, they are too lazy and afraid to look and learn anything new.
@5tonyvvvv Can you prove the "intelligence"? No, then you have to prove something, you have to look for the REAL answers and not some imagined ones, that is what science is about, finding the clues and following where they lead. If they were to lead to God then great but if not then don't cry about it.... because they don't lead to God. Stop crying child.
How about the contribution to the mix by amino acids from carbonations meteorites like Murchison. Wikipedia: "14,000 molecular compounds including 70 amino acids in a sample of the meteorite. The limited scope of the analysis by mass spectrometry undertaken by Schmitt-Kopplin's team provides for a potential 50,000 or more unique molecular compositions, with the team estimating the possibility of millions of distinct organic compounds in the meteorite"
see this video is for children because most of us adults know there is way more involved in the reproduction of your average DNA molecule than is covered by this simple explanation
if you consider the mechanism that actually initiates and carries out the split of DNA/RNA it is more complicated than making lumber from trees
DNA/RNA doesn't just split
it has to be literally pulled apart and rebuilt piece by piece by the proteins that made specifically for that purpose
@o0lBobl0o Yes, but what pulls it apart and puts it back together? And can you show this to be the case? Are you knowledgeable enough to give us a plausible explanation?
@artblack01 Tiny nano bots made of protein. There are plenty of videos here on youtube to show exactly how the construction is accomplished. It takes a host of these very specific nano bots to provide the materials, and complete the construction of a genome.
@IsaacBG84 Did you know SETI has been looking for a signal that would prove that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? If they could find one simple signal somewhere that didn't originate from man. Just a few words, or a mathamatical equation would be enough to confirm that we are not alone.
@o0lBobl0o Now, is this by some intelligent designer at work? did some guy go into these caves and make some kind of special cement to form these rock formations? is it magic? NO, it's chemistry.
@o0lBobl0o But that's after the fact that life has gotten more complex, you have to get down to before the "nano bots" (you seem to be stuck in science fiction idea of robots). Many liquids that come together either on the surface or underground end up combining and mixing to make gases, a lot of times you can go into caves and see stalactites and stalagmites forming in caves, they are not alive they are basically liquids depositing minerals and (somehow) they solidify, cement together.
@artblack01 I'm talking about the simplest and more basic possible form of life, which has nothing to do with the accumulation of minerals in a cave. You obviously have no business in a conversation about microbiology.
@o0lBobl0o And as far as the simplest form of life, you have no business talking about something for which you have a very rudimentary knowledge.... in Layman's terms, you know almost nothing about it.
1. Paintings and cars are not self reproductive systems argument. Ok it is noted
2. It uses mass production and industrial procedures aplied in cars and electronics to try to explain how an atom turns out into a Leonardo da Vinci. Total fail.
3. According to this video DNA= simple chemicals replicating and Cells= Bunch of chemicals that agreed on protect themselfs by forming external cell layers.
@IsaacBG84 Where do you get your knowledge of how DNA works and how it is put together? Do you understand Chemistry beyond High School or a higher understanding of the chemical processes involved in the formation of DNA?
@IsaacBG84 Also you do understand that this video was about simplicity? Something to explain it to people who don't understand the basic principles.
One of the creationist arguments is that they treat life and the universe as an inanimate hand made object. A watch, painting, car is not life but creationists use these as examples for their creation/intelligent design argument. 3. No this video doesn't go into detail because it's supposed to be a basic explanation....
@IsaacBG84 It's more time consuming than that. But a fast way to see something happen by itself is in caves, stalactites and stalagmites.... Nasa has also discovered a new type of life form on Earth that isn't like the life we are all a product of. Look that one up.
I believe in the CREATION because i never saw a product of accident (like BigBang) that was so good and beautiful such as Earth, and it's living organisms is not a coincidence that appeared according to their own classifications, look at their prefect design to adapt and survive in environment.
Bah, you're a moron if you can't comprehend the most argumented video explanation you could possibly ask for, while a bunch of emo dribble is a good point for you! "Perfect design" ? Who would "design" an idiot like you then?
I should hardly expect you to understand my reference to Valhalla.
@syazwankhan He doesnt 'believe' we came from an Ape (well, Ape like creature to be specific) he/we KNOW we came from one. If you've never read a science book or ever looked at the Evidence for evolution then ill give you a hint........its Fact.
@syazwankhan Youtube is far too restricted to post all the evidence for Evolution.
So heres 5, look up the rest yourself, you never know you might learn something:
1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats , 80% with cows , 75% with mice , and so on.........
This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata.
One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos.
These common characteristics could only be possible they descended from a common ancest.
5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
@Valhalla1010 Define accident? Let's say you have a bunch of rocks floating in space in different directions, the chances of one of them hitting another is pretty good. Now take their nature, mass, each mass pulls on another mass, as they hit each other they sometimes revolve around each other until they stick, soon they get bigger. Eventually they grow in size as more rocks hit it. this mass gets so big that it's now the size of a planet..... and so heavy it's basically round....
@Valhalla1010 Somethings don't require a creator and yet are not necessarily accidental or having a purpose. But giving you the benefit of the doubt.... can you prove God was responsible and that God exists? Just because something seems orderly doesn't make it designed. (Secret Life of Chaos)
Don't bother man, for a long time I've tried to make them see that anything that they could possibly imagine that happened out there couldn't possibly be without a Intelligent power. And out of any possible book that can explain life the bible makes most sense to me, just by the way life is going right now and all the prophecies. They are blinded by satan in lies they created. Psalm 14:1 The fool says in his heart, There is no God. and so on down the text.
@8i680085 Sorry if Science is hard, boohoo. You know that is the most over used quote from you guys "The fool says in his heart, There is no God." That's like saying, if you don't believe me your an idiot, I would NEVER lie... Yeah, and the Bible could never lie because God wrote it, published and printed it and himself.... using man.... and if you don't believe me your going to hell..... because people who believe in God never lie because God is in control.....
@8i680085 If you can prove God, without using the Bible then do so, because the Bible (a man made book) is the only evidence for the existence of God. If you can show that what science is finding is wrong than you will win the Nobel Prize. If you can show me one thing that could not have happened without God then do so, because so far it's Science 10000000 to God 0. If you don't understand Science then how are you going to prove science wrong?
@8i680085 We don't understand how it could have been done by an intelligent designer, we see how it's done with out one but with one we have no clue... you are soooo right. We don't need to resort to "God did it" to find out and see how something was done. All we need is the desire to learn new things and discover what is true rather than what is imagined. or made up, like God.
@BoracayOcean69 Well, then you can explain how we get chihuahuas and great danes from wolves? These dogs are all man made using what is known as Artificial Selection aka selective breeding, which is the basic premise for evolution. There are many life forms that are man made using this method; bananas, cows, corn, etc. DNA is not just a code that makes us but a finger print for where we came from and is traceable.
Watched this in biology class. Everyone should see it. Oh, and people watching this, make sure to vote on it so that it dilutes the effects of creationists trying to make sure people don't get to see it.
it remains true untill someone disprooves it. example:
the world is flat and you'll fall off if you go near the edge. (evidence) a theory that gravity works in only one direction (down)
therefore the world has to be flat. Everyone bilieves it couse that's the best theory so far. later comes a man that states the world is round; everyone thinks he's insane.
do know what i find funny, very few creationists and IDers come to this excellent video to pick on it. I wonder why that would be, since their "theory" is as sound as evolutionary theory. right, right?
lipid protocells are more likely to have come before RNA because RNA is hard to form in a diluted solution like the ocean, but if it is concentrated in a spere, it bumps together more and makes longer chains. plus its much more easier to make a lipid protocel in a laboratory today than a simple RNA molecule.
More than that, the whole idea that the people of the time could even have begun to understand the reality of creation is absurd.
You don't teach 4 year olds bio-chemical principles. You tell them it was all done in simple terms or by magic till they have the knowledge to understand it.
So even assuming GOD did create the universe, there is no reason to think that a book written FOR people of the time BY an all knowing GOD would bother to include the details at that time.
I rather suspect he was hoping that at some point we would get that it was just a story and that the reality of HIS efforts to create the universe were fare more clever than described in the bible.
"Faith" isn't a way of looking at the world. "Faith" - believing things without knowing why - is a vestigial behavior that was necessary for human evolution. It was probably selected for when agriculture was being discovered, since growing crops requires 'faith' that burying food (seed) in the ground would result in more food rather than wasting food. It's embellishment into religion is just like a rogue virus and it's time we found a cure.
What spiritual questions might you be talking about, and in what sense can faith be an explanation? Furthermore, what do you mean when you say spirit?
6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
So maybe I am glad you can't do nothing but just blabling with your monley evoluted mind. What people shouldn't be doing is calling death upon themselves with the crazyest ilusion called evolution, now me quoting the word of GOD and all its wisdom should be banned? LOL. You are living in such utter darkness so dark that you can't see the simplest things in life, I am sorry and sad for you, if you could just read it and grasp its fullness things would change in you life, but till then, illusions
I would ban it from my own Youtube channel. It has no place when it comes to rational discussion. If you want to quote a line that illustrates a point, fine, but to fill a comment section with mythological bs would be like me going to your channel and filling it up with the works of Dr. Seuss.
Evolution is fact, you are willfully ignorant, and I would hate to be like you.
The thing is that whatever you are doing is expected even if it was 1000 years ago. Christians have been always persecuted by people like you, people who doesn't have the understanding, but the christian fight is not against people, is with the powers that controls, blinds and make use of people like you, you will never be able to understand that, like I said you are blind and the worst part of it is that you still don't want to see the truth.
I'm not persecuting you. You have a right to think whatever you want. You are coming to a science channel to spew nonsense though.
I don't want nonsense, and you are trying to feed me nonsense. Now who exactly is fighting what?
I don't go to Christian or other religious forums or to churches, Mosques or Synagogues to give lessons on evolution and state there is no evidence for God.
You really need to take a look at yourself and what you are doing here.
some really good stuff here
bribribri56 5 days ago
@potholer54
I had a discussion with someone who claimed that the reducing atmosphere, which is assumed by the Miller-Urey-Experiment, did not actually exist and he gave an article as a reference, J.Levine New Ideas about the Early Atmosphere, NASA Special Report, No.225, Langley Research Centre, August 11, 1983. All my searches lead to various Creationist sites, but not the article itself. Apologies if you've dealt with this in an earlier video.
Regards.
bonham1981 1 week ago
@bonham1981 -- There is still uncertainty about the oxygen content of the primordial atmosphere. I don't know the article you refer to, but it should be on the NASA website. Your friend should know that the Miller-Urey experiment is over half a century old. Perhaps he should get up to date with more recent discoveries.
potholer54 1 week ago
@potholer54
Thanks for your answer, the controversy regarding the ox-red-species became clearer when reading into the matter. I think I found the correct article:
Levine, The photochemistry of biogenic gases in the early and present atmosphere, 1985. (the afore mentioned being a press release or news maybe)
Well, you probably know best what he was like, considering that your whole channel is basically dedicated to put the record straight. :)
Regards,
bonham1981 1 week ago
Chemical can replicate itself??? Damn. That's much BS.
tancheeken 2 weeks ago
Darwin's 'On the Origin of species' etc can be read free at Project Gutenberg org. For more on science & nature try books by top scientists Richard Dawkins, ' Unweaving the rainbow ' & ' The greatest show on earth ' & PZ Meyers , Victor Stenger, website Talkorigins, Try John C. Lennox V Peter Atikins debate on youtube. Also on Youtube BonoboBill, evidence of common ancestry: human chromosome 2. Also Ken Miller on Pariskillton. Also try reading about endogenous retrovirus & provirus.
zytigon 3 months ago
So DNA is simply the result of nucleotide evolution?
FcK2420 7 months ago
Why today we do not see DNA or RNA floating around and replicating outside of living organisms?
We never find pools of primordial soup anywhere any-more. Why?
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk What IS primordal soup. If you answer that question you are only one step away from finding out why there is none around today. As fro DNA/RNA replecating outside an organism. This would require enzymes. Enzymes are proteins. Proteins in the environment will be eaten...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
You have a circular logic here.Where the first proteins then came from?And how conveniently they turn out to be enzymes to facilitate further replication?And even if the enzymes were not the first miraculously appearing proteins then what were the first proteins and how they evolved to enzymes.
Why would the proteins happen in the first place.There was no evolutionary advantage from the molecule point of view.Another Accident?The 21 amino acids just hang around and wait their turn?
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk Proteins are a function of DNA. Do you know anything about genetics? You are asking questions that could EASILY be answered by READING a little. IF you have a nucleotide chain that codes for an enzyme that is helpful in replicating DNA then it will also be helpful in the replication of itself. If you are now wondering "But how does the chain of nucleotides that codes for the enzyme come into existence in the first place" then you have to read into the subject...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there. Think before writing, please.
gespilk 9 months ago
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@gespilk "Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there."
Not ANY other self replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will also aid in the replication of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
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@gespilk "Dude, the same enzyme that helps in the replication of the molecule that created it helps in the replication of any other self-replicating molecule out there. Think before writing, please."
Not ANY self-replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will aid in the replication of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@gespilk Not ANY self replicating molecule. If the enzyme aids in the replication of DNA then, yes, it will aid in the replictaion of all DNA chains it comes in contact with. But how does that go against abiogenisis?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
if everybody is special then nobody is.
gespilk 9 months ago
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@gespilk "if everybody is special then nobody is."
WTF?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
2:25 "Some imperfectly copied molecules would have been better adapted to the environment. These successful molecules would continue to replicate and ...."
LOL: Could you define what molecule better adapted to the environment means?
3:58 You mean to say it is just a far fetched hypothesis but we have nothing better to work with. --- How about some computer modelling to evolve cells from basic chemicals. We are doing it for the Universe. Surely we can do it for the cell???
gespilk 1 year ago
@gespilk -- "Could you define what molecule better adapted to the environment means?" -- Yes. A molecule that survives and successfully replicates.
potholer54 1 year ago 23
@potholer54
These are not multicellular organisms.
A molecule just sits there and connects its active ends to whatever it can connect to.
How the copy would separate from the original? They do not just separate. Someone/something has to make particular separation possible.
Self-replicating molecule??? - Until we explain how that happens god will exist. Darwinian evolution just breaks around this point.
How a molecule evolves could not be explained with Darwinian process.
gespilk 1 year ago
@gespilk Evolution does not treat the Origin of life, rather the vast complexity of it. You're talking about the field of Abiogenesis. We can make certain protein chains just by combining the atmosphere and conditions of the then-earth, the stuff of life created naturally, hinting us in a direction of a natural cause of life.
I would advice on withholding judgement on the existence and claims of gods since empirical evidence both tells and hints us to a path where our origins are natural.
kazath 11 months ago
@kazath
Where are the computer simulations then?Not the animations, the simulations.
All we hear are prolong explanations, diagrams, animations of how it happens, but not simulations.We do simulations of the entire universe but not of the emergence of cells.
It almost feels as if there has been intervention of some kind.How the information was created?All components to be in the right proportions, at the right place to create self replicating molecules that would cover the planet somehow???
gespilk 11 months ago
@gespilk Seeing as how you are so obcessed with computer models why don't you go and learn computer programming then tell us why we CAN'T have a computer model for that rather than grilling people who arn't computer programmers over why THEY can't furnish you with one?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
All I am saying is that there are many gaps in the explanations provided in this video.And one way to expose them is to try to model all the processes the speaker talks about.
Take for example what he says about "better adapted molecules" at 2:25.Somehow conveniently the environment is such that "the better adapted",to do what(?),molecules become more complex and begin to code information? Unless someone can demonstrate that and other claims it is only science preaching gospel.
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk I think you are misunderstanding the point. The molecules are self replicating and therefor molecules that are better at replicating in a given environment will dominate that environment. IF higher degrees of complexity are advantageous, and possible, then the molecules, nessecarily, will become more complex over time. The gaps in the explanation of as unto how this process occured are just details. The principles of self replication HAVE been demonstarted: this is NOT preaching...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
And how exactly the quantitative build up you are talking about (many of the same type molecules) would become qualitative leap (a gene)?
"Better at replicating" means what - More stable and do not fall apart or something else? We would end up with one molecule to rule them all. Then what? Random accidents again?suddenly genes?
It seems the whole of life is a very long chain of amazing coincidences of convenient environment and chemical bonds. I do not believe in that much luck.
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk You want to talk about chance now? Well if you think it improbable then firstly you have to calculate what the probability life ariseing spontaneously IS. You have to look at the size of the universe and the number of different compounds and the quantities of each; then calculate the probability of the particular combination of compounds found on the early earth coming together by chance. Then you look at the number of occurences of this (or at least similar ones) in the universe--->
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
Just say "Drake equation" and save me the reading time. Okay? Also you could Google "Fermi paradox" and get a bit more on your line of thinking.
But my comments were not about that.
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk Why should I say "Drake Equation"? That is not what I was alluding to. And what makes you think that the "Frermi Paradox" is "on my line of thinking"? You think abiogenisis is improbable: I was pointing out that you do not have enough information to conclude that it IS improbable - that has nothing to do with the Drake Equation...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@gespilk <--- Ofcourse this is not possible because there is still lots we don't know about the universe. Anywho, if you read the last chapter of dawkins' "The Ancestors Tale". He explains it wonderfully. Far more detail than I dare go into here. The above video is marked (for schools). You may wish to take that into concideration... happy reading :D
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@gespilk It absolutely is explained by a 'Darwinian process'. A self replicating molecule BY DEFINITION is subject to evolution. Given it satisfies other criteria such as variation of the success of replication between individuals
dooivid 11 months ago
@gespilk =These are not multicellular organisms.= No, they are self-replicating molecules. =Until we explain how that happens god will exist.= Well, since we can explain very well how that happens (read an advanced biochemistry book), I guess god doesn't exist. You said it.
potholer54 2 months ago 9
@potholer54
I hate to be "a stick in the wheel" but if we know then where are the SIMULATIONS?
There are, in all those books, plenty of colourful diagrams and complicatedly explained chemical processes and yet if we are to claim that we understand the evolutionary processes we need to produce SIMULATIONS.
Up to date I am not aware of the existence of such software that can create complete ecosystems from basic chemicals by applying the knowledge gathered in all the books you kindly mentioned.
gespilk 2 months ago
basically what this video says is that a bunch of molecular LEGOs (without even having any explanation for why they have connector nubs) rubbed together during a flood, and connected themselves, then, once a LEGO ball got to big for its own britches, it broke, and then and the broken halves rebuilt the missing parts, and then they broke again, and this process repeated, until they started running into each other again, but then they formed stronger structures, and first LEGO Amoeba was born???
DragonstarFighter 10 months ago
So if Denmark ever gets flooded, we are going to have giant LEGO monsters attacking us within about a billion years...
DragonstarFighter 10 months ago
@DragonstarFighter
Yeah basically.... sorry but you cant leave those plastic (that takes so long to break down) alone, if you see 2 Lego pieces connected together, and they aren't in someone's collection... break them apart immediately... so that they don't multiply further!
DragonstarFighter 8 months ago
@DragonstarFighter Lol. Your so silly...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DragonstarFighter
It sounds like scientific gospel.
gespilk 9 months ago
@gespilk >>Could you define what molecule better adapted to the environment means?
Don't tax Potboiler with questions he can't answer and barely understands! He isn't a scientist, he's just a reporter who doesn't understand evolution in any depth.
In any case, the entire basis of this video is nonsense. An origin of life based on RNA is highly improbable because of the conditions in the pre-biotic environment.
sallyamis 5 months ago
@sallyamis firstly, he answered the question anyway, secondly he's a science reporter, thirdly he understands evolution in more depth than most people, thirdly he does have a science degree, fourthly you don't have to be a scientist to know about science. Being a science reporter he's obviously read vast amounts of the science literature.
Pirate44444 2 months ago
@gespilk Your comment at 3:58: look into the scientific literature. I'm sure you'll find it.
Your comment at 2:25: He's talking about amino acids.
atheistram 3 months ago
@atheistram
Quote me on this:
Complexity happens at the in-betweens.
Not to close to the centre of the Galaxy but also not too far from it.
Not too close to the sun but also not too far from it.
Not too deep in the planet but also not too high above it.
It happens where the conditions are not too violent but also not too stale/passive.
Not into the deep waters but also not at dry land.
It happens on the edge between Yin and Yang.
Wherever complexity emerges it is always at the in-betweens.
gespilk 3 months ago
@gespilk We've done it now. Or J Craig Venter's team has done it. And his computer made sigle celled life-form is multiplying and doing just swell.: ) Next gap for "God" to hide in that we can remove, please?:)
winterstellar 1 month ago
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@gespilk We've done it now. Or J Craig Venter's team has done it. And his computer made sigle celled life-form is multiplying and doing just swell.: ) Next gap for "God" to hide in that we can remove, please?:)
winterstellar 1 month ago
Appreciate all your videos. Great science, clear explanations, and a bit of humor. I will certainly be using these for my Biology class.
TheMalkadi 1 year ago
God is Awesome. Let us all turn to the Creator who made all that was, and is, and is to come. God says in the bible--"Rejoice and be glad in what I have made". Let us all admire God's creation and praise God for it."
Turn2God4Hope 1 year ago
@Turn2God4 Hope Wy don't we turn to Thor? Or Hoth? or the rainbow serpent? Do you make sure your dying relatives are stabbed with a spear before they die so they may live with Odin in the afterlife?
dooivid 11 months ago
Why is the RNA able to copy itself?
rolingpingu 1 year ago
The "Origin of Life hypothesis" is NOT part of the Theory of Evolution. The foundation of science is observation, we can make observations of evolution, but there has yet to be any observations of the origins of life, Origins is still just pure speculation. Life can only come from life, this is the foundation of biology. Why do we not see life spontaneously arising today?
tetekofa 1 year ago
@tetekofa In fact, there are prions and viruses, that share both non-living and living characteristics. When they get more complicated, to the point of respecting the requirement of being called "life", they're called bacteria. That means that life does not arise spontaneously, but by a long way of living-and-nonliving forms. Why doesn't it happen 2day? In fact, we don't know if it's happening, but it would be hard to happen, since there is a lot of other living forms that make competition
rolingpingu 1 year ago
Cyanide + Ammonia = Adenine. This reaction was discovered by Joan Oró, which was born in Catalonia.
lekunberriko1 1 year ago
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Cyanide + Ammonia = Adenine. This reaction was discovered by Joan Oró, that was born in Catalonia.
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lekunberriko1 1 year ago
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Ha All of you super scientists are so physical. and dickheads at that.
The DNA structure is created by the vibration of the living organism called the universe. Try to work out why. I know you cant ! Why? Because your to damn physical and again your dickheads and think with it. With what?. You think with your dicks.
teslaglobal 1 year ago
Ha All of you super scientists are so physical. and dickheads at that.
The DNA structure is created by the vibration of the living organism called the universe. Try to work out why. I know you cant ! Why? Because your to damn physical and again your dickheads and think with it. With what?. You think with your dicks.
teslaglobal 1 year ago
@teslaglobal Anyone who can´t form a proper sentence and has no idea of grammar has not place calling others ´dickheads.´ Your or You´re...to vs too...again your vs you´re...these are things one learns in grade 3...wow...and you call othes names...wow...this is one of the most ironic comments I´ve ever read. How did they even let you use a computer??
papasitoman 1 year ago
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You're a credit to civilization
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
You're a credit to civillization
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
Nice video. Before some creationist uses it for a straw man argument: There's a minor mistake in 1:46. The ribose binds to the left N-atom.
Lichtbringer42 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ok so i dont have a PDh in any of this BS but explain to me this so i can get this right (in all seriousness),ok so the sun looses like somewere around 250,000 pounds of matter avery second (or somewere around that #) and if everything just went BOOM! and hapenned (and if the earth is several billion years old) that would make the sun frekaing huge...which means we would have been in the sun billions of years ago...so we formed out of the sun....hmmmm...hahahahahahahahah
MrZmac907 1 year ago
@MrZmac907 The sun actually loses far more mass per secound. But since it is orders of magnitudes larger and further away from us than you seem to believe, that isn't a problem. Do the calculation.
Lichtbringer42 1 year ago
@MrZmac907 There's actually one videa that shows that we somehow came out the stars, since many of the elements are made in their core
rolingpingu 1 year ago
@MrZmac907 You're retarded.
sabertooth1980 1 year ago
Greeting to all the fetid an pestilent promordial soup decendants! No wonder this world going to hell if it is goberned by walking evolved shits
IsaacBG84 1 year ago
Great video but this is still too hard for your average creationist fundy! Make a video with big letters and words no longer than 5 letters and MAYBE you'll get across to creationists!
June28July 1 year ago
@merjobrothers I'm afraid I don't understand your reply. If you know the origin of life, then if you had the time and energy to make a youtube video, that would be great. I'm trying to learn this subject, so I will take all the information I can.
However, I may have drastically misunderstood the content of your reply to me. If I have, then I apologize.
truthforchrist 1 year ago
I think people need to realize that there is a difference between evolution and abiogenesis...
The entire point of modern evolution is not to explain the origin of life, but rather the origin of life as we know it.
WritingForFun 1 year ago
I really enjoied this video. I have always wondered what the scientific explination for the origin of life is. I have spoken to many people who are on their way to becomming scientists, and all of them gave me the same answer..."We have no idea". You are the first person to exlain it in a clear and easy to understand mannor.
This is the 2nd video of yours that I have watched, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are you planning on making more videos that deal with this subject?
truthforchrist 1 year ago
@truthforchrist -- "but are you planning on making more videos that deal with this subject?" -- Thanks, I will be doing more vids on evolution in the future. I suggest you watch the "Made Easy" series first, in chronological order. This will take you from the beginning of the universe to the human migration out of Africa.
potholer54 1 year ago 9
@potholer54 You should have explained how RNA replicates.
RespectMyHate 1 year ago
@potholer54 Atheist morons need to learn basic chemistry and Homochirality if they life could happen by chance and time,first life by chance would be its own Paradox..and could never happen..science has reached a dead end..only stubborn atheist think it can happen purely by time and chance,even evolution scientists know simple chemicals cant make life..proteins will only use the LEFT handed variety of amino acids,the RNA and DNA will only use Right acids
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv This coming from someone who understands chemistry and life. Ha ha ha. You have no idea what you are talking about. It's very funny to read.
artblack01 1 year ago
@artblack01 great answer u dumb fuck..u dont know what Homochirality.like most people why did the Miller experiment,fail???..do u know why amino acids right and left are toxic to life and not one single cell was created..like u have the answers,,next u will tell me Venter made life by coping pre existing information,u dont know shit moron!!!!
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv Wow, great response!!! So Articulate, so Scholarly, it really clearly showed the flaws in my logic and understanding of life in general, I think you are right, God must have gone done it, he's so good at shit like that. You certainly know more than I do, you must have like 12 PHDs in science to understand even my own understanding of the subject without having ever met me or knowing what I have learned in my studies.
artblack01 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv You guys really don't understand the different varieties of chemical compounds that compose the structures of different forms of life, like bacteria, or plants or animal so on. If the reference to the "Miller Experiment" is all you have to go on you really did miss the boat. And your only defense is to call me a moron, GOOD JOB!!! You are entertaining.
artblack01 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv So what is your explanation? "ummm, God gone and done it you stupid fuck!" Really? Is that the extent of your understanding? Wow, you are fucking smart! I can really see your PHD in Chemistry now. You are such a Scholar. You must be rich too for being so smart. I am impressed..... not.
artblack01 1 year ago
@truthforchrist >>We have no idea
The people who told you that we have no idea - including Dawkins, for that matter - are telling the truth. This video is a fantasy scenario with no connection with established scientific research.
sallyamis 5 months ago
@sallyamis "The people who told you that we have no idea - including Dawkins"
Unless you are a molecular biologist I'm sure most people have no idea. As a layperson the fact that science is working on the problem and already have a number of ideas of how life arose must be commended. It is possible there are many ways life could have arisen. Hopefully one day we will have a better understanding of which is correct.
It certainly won't be an invisible magic man in the sky!
mtbee9 5 months ago 9
DNA can't replicate by itself...
Zehydra106 1 year ago
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@Zehydra106 "DNA can't replicate by itself..." And yet it manages to do so millions of times in your body every day. A miracle? No. It's chemistry.
Misterb0z 1 year ago
@Zehydra106 and you can't do anything by yourself, you are a puppet. You are made of fabric.
artblack01 1 year ago
God laughs at how man tries so desperately to exclude Him out of the picture. Everyone knows that life comes from life. Hmmmmmmm, God is alive and He created life. May every man be found a liar and may God be found true. God is truth. Seek Him while He may be found and call upon God while He is near. Near means before you die and it's too late to seek God.
Turn2God4Hope 1 year ago
@Turn2God4Hope At what point did you witness God laughing? That would be fascinating or this that statement yet another assumption born out of popular religious presuppositions? And if man is the liar, how come so much of the Bible is wrong and contradictory? Seems like the authors of the Bible did plenty of lying themselves. Finally, if the Bible is the source of your faith, does it make any sense to look to terrorists and mass murderers (like Moses) for moral guidance?
Vegas01973 1 year ago
@Turn2God4Hope - White noise. You just claim God did it and offer no sort of a theory of how that is really what happened. You have nothing but a tome written a few thousand years ago but stupified peasants living in desert tribes. WEAK
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
@Turn2God4Hope Well, man tried to include him in the explanation but could never find a need for such a thing. The only people who say "God did it" are the people not looking for the answers to any questions, they are too lazy and afraid to look and learn anything new.
artblack01 1 year ago
@artblack01 u dumb fucks would rather believe in some chemistry unknown to science than intelligence
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv Can you prove the "intelligence"? No, then you have to prove something, you have to look for the REAL answers and not some imagined ones, that is what science is about, finding the clues and following where they lead. If they were to lead to God then great but if not then don't cry about it.... because they don't lead to God. Stop crying child.
artblack01 1 year ago
Hmm "life has not been created in a lab" - Is it time for an update, given recent advancements? :D
Widgetas 1 year ago
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Life has been created in a laboratory:)
opielicker96 1 year ago
thanks for posting this! it is so far the most understandable and truthful video i have seen on the topic!
turquoiseguy 1 year ago 3
How about the contribution to the mix by amino acids from carbonations meteorites like Murchison. Wikipedia: "14,000 molecular compounds including 70 amino acids in a sample of the meteorite. The limited scope of the analysis by mass spectrometry undertaken by Schmitt-Kopplin's team provides for a potential 50,000 or more unique molecular compositions, with the team estimating the possibility of millions of distinct organic compounds in the meteorite"
dischordia23 1 year ago
Hey Potholer, could you please link me to the journal article about montmorillonite and its proposed use as a catalyst?
07TonzPau 1 year ago
good post!
Itsreallikethatyall 1 year ago
see this video is for children because most of us adults know there is way more involved in the reproduction of your average DNA molecule than is covered by this simple explanation
if you consider the mechanism that actually initiates and carries out the split of DNA/RNA it is more complicated than making lumber from trees
DNA/RNA doesn't just split
it has to be literally pulled apart and rebuilt piece by piece by the proteins that made specifically for that purpose
o0lBobl0o 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o Yes, but what pulls it apart and puts it back together? And can you show this to be the case? Are you knowledgeable enough to give us a plausible explanation?
artblack01 1 year ago
@artblack01 Tiny nano bots made of protein. There are plenty of videos here on youtube to show exactly how the construction is accomplished. It takes a host of these very specific nano bots to provide the materials, and complete the construction of a genome.
o0lBobl0o 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o
"Tiny nano bots made of protein"
And who desinged that? or they just arrived from the toilet?
IsaacBG84 1 year ago
@IsaacBG84 Did you know SETI has been looking for a signal that would prove that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? If they could find one simple signal somewhere that didn't originate from man. Just a few words, or a mathamatical equation would be enough to confirm that we are not alone.
o0lBobl0o 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o Now, is this by some intelligent designer at work? did some guy go into these caves and make some kind of special cement to form these rock formations? is it magic? NO, it's chemistry.
artblack01 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o But that's after the fact that life has gotten more complex, you have to get down to before the "nano bots" (you seem to be stuck in science fiction idea of robots). Many liquids that come together either on the surface or underground end up combining and mixing to make gases, a lot of times you can go into caves and see stalactites and stalagmites forming in caves, they are not alive they are basically liquids depositing minerals and (somehow) they solidify, cement together.
artblack01 1 year ago
@artblack01 I'm talking about the simplest and more basic possible form of life, which has nothing to do with the accumulation of minerals in a cave. You obviously have no business in a conversation about microbiology.
o0lBobl0o 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o It was a metaphor, damn your an asshole.
artblack01 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o And come to think of it, do you have a degree in Micro Biology?
artblack01 1 year ago
@o0lBobl0o And as far as the simplest form of life, you have no business talking about something for which you have a very rudimentary knowledge.... in Layman's terms, you know almost nothing about it.
artblack01 1 year ago
what is the name of the clay found on ocean floor in early earth?
rigso321 1 year ago
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marzbar619 1 year ago
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marzbar619 1 year ago
@marzbar619 Life did not come from clay.
JUANMO94 1 year ago
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marzbar619 1 year ago
@marzbar619 The clay is a catalyst for the chemicals to get toguether, and it is not part of the chemical reaction.
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marzbar619 1 year ago
This video is was made very poorly supported
1. Paintings and cars are not self reproductive systems argument. Ok it is noted
2. It uses mass production and industrial procedures aplied in cars and electronics to try to explain how an atom turns out into a Leonardo da Vinci. Total fail.
3. According to this video DNA= simple chemicals replicating and Cells= Bunch of chemicals that agreed on protect themselfs by forming external cell layers.
4. complexity of Fusion reaction = DNA reaction??
IsaacBG84 1 year ago
@IsaacBG84 Where do you get your knowledge of how DNA works and how it is put together? Do you understand Chemistry beyond High School or a higher understanding of the chemical processes involved in the formation of DNA?
artblack01 1 year ago
@IsaacBG84 Also you do understand that this video was about simplicity? Something to explain it to people who don't understand the basic principles.
One of the creationist arguments is that they treat life and the universe as an inanimate hand made object. A watch, painting, car is not life but creationists use these as examples for their creation/intelligent design argument. 3. No this video doesn't go into detail because it's supposed to be a basic explanation....
artblack01 1 year ago
@artblack01
I assume that a "primordial soup" decendant can figure it all by just saying: ITs not magic, pop evolved....and we are here!
IsaacBG84 1 year ago
@IsaacBG84 It's more time consuming than that. But a fast way to see something happen by itself is in caves, stalactites and stalagmites.... Nasa has also discovered a new type of life form on Earth that isn't like the life we are all a product of. Look that one up.
artblack01 1 year ago
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@artblack01
"But a fast way to see something happen by itself is in caves, stalactites and stalagmites."
Yeah dont get to close to them, some day they wil "evolve" into an animal
IsaacBG84 1 year ago
@IsaacBG84
4. Sometimes the most seemingly complex things have the most simple of origins.
artblack01 1 year ago
I believe in the CREATION because i never saw a product of accident (like BigBang) that was so good and beautiful such as Earth, and it's living organisms is not a coincidence that appeared according to their own classifications, look at their prefect design to adapt and survive in environment.
Valhalla1010 1 year ago
@Valhalla1010
Go away. You don't belong in Valhalla.
kirkey99 1 year ago
@kirkey99 Valhalla1010 has a good point too. So i think you're the one who should go away.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
Bah, you're a moron if you can't comprehend the most argumented video explanation you could possibly ask for, while a bunch of emo dribble is a good point for you! "Perfect design" ? Who would "design" an idiot like you then?
I should hardly expect you to understand my reference to Valhalla.
Now YOU go away and pray on it
kirkey99 1 year ago
@kirkey99 ur the moron because u believe u came from an idiotic creature called ape.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan He doesnt 'believe' we came from an Ape (well, Ape like creature to be specific) he/we KNOW we came from one. If you've never read a science book or ever looked at the Evidence for evolution then ill give you a hint........its Fact.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
@jesuslikesporn so what are the evidences to proof that human evolution is true?
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan Youtube is far too restricted to post all the evidence for Evolution.
So heres 5, look up the rest yourself, you never know you might learn something:
1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.
3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats , 80% with cows , 75% with mice , and so on.........
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.
4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other. In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
These common characteristics could only be possible they descended from a common ancest.
5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
jesuslikesporn 1 year ago
@Valhalla1010 SO TRUE.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@Valhalla1010 Define accident? Let's say you have a bunch of rocks floating in space in different directions, the chances of one of them hitting another is pretty good. Now take their nature, mass, each mass pulls on another mass, as they hit each other they sometimes revolve around each other until they stick, soon they get bigger. Eventually they grow in size as more rocks hit it. this mass gets so big that it's now the size of a planet..... and so heavy it's basically round....
artblack01 1 year ago
@Valhalla1010 Somethings don't require a creator and yet are not necessarily accidental or having a purpose. But giving you the benefit of the doubt.... can you prove God was responsible and that God exists? Just because something seems orderly doesn't make it designed. (Secret Life of Chaos)
artblack01 1 year ago
What is so laughable about evolutionsist is that they actually
believe that there is or was a "process" that causes any organism
(single celled, or full grown T Rex's- any animal or living thing) to
grow, change, and manipulate into a completely different
organism over thousands, millions or billions of years until this
very day where mankind dominates.
BoracayOcean69 1 year ago
@BoracayOcean69
Don't bother man, for a long time I've tried to make them see that anything that they could possibly imagine that happened out there couldn't possibly be without a Intelligent power. And out of any possible book that can explain life the bible makes most sense to me, just by the way life is going right now and all the prophecies. They are blinded by satan in lies they created. Psalm 14:1 The fool says in his heart, There is no God. and so on down the text.
8i680085 1 year ago
@8i680085 Sorry if Science is hard, boohoo. You know that is the most over used quote from you guys "The fool says in his heart, There is no God." That's like saying, if you don't believe me your an idiot, I would NEVER lie... Yeah, and the Bible could never lie because God wrote it, published and printed it and himself.... using man.... and if you don't believe me your going to hell..... because people who believe in God never lie because God is in control.....
artblack01 1 year ago
@8i680085 If you can prove God, without using the Bible then do so, because the Bible (a man made book) is the only evidence for the existence of God. If you can show that what science is finding is wrong than you will win the Nobel Prize. If you can show me one thing that could not have happened without God then do so, because so far it's Science 10000000 to God 0. If you don't understand Science then how are you going to prove science wrong?
artblack01 1 year ago
@8i680085 We don't understand how it could have been done by an intelligent designer, we see how it's done with out one but with one we have no clue... you are soooo right. We don't need to resort to "God did it" to find out and see how something was done. All we need is the desire to learn new things and discover what is true rather than what is imagined. or made up, like God.
artblack01 1 year ago
@BoracayOcean69 Well, then you can explain how we get chihuahuas and great danes from wolves? These dogs are all man made using what is known as Artificial Selection aka selective breeding, which is the basic premise for evolution. There are many life forms that are man made using this method; bananas, cows, corn, etc. DNA is not just a code that makes us but a finger print for where we came from and is traceable.
artblack01 1 year ago
Well what is sooo silly is
that thie wonderful amazing, and apparently wise (whatever it
is, they refer to it as "evolution") has helped living things over
billions of year to change to adapt to their environment BUT
NOW that there are thinking, intelligent people around
whatever it is or was is no longer here to observed or to be
studied or proved by Scientific methods!!!! LMBO!!!
BoracayOcean69 1 year ago
@BoracayOcean69
"Well what is sooo silly is "
That you are talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about. Go educate yourself. Stat!
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
I have the truth. You obviously love a LIE. evolution is a lie and myth for the weak minded that love the darkness....John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
BoracayOcean69 1 year ago
@BoracayOcean69
"I have the truth."
Oh brother, another Jesus-freak on the loose. And then they wonder why people laugh at them.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
Watched this in biology class. Everyone should see it. Oh, and people watching this, make sure to vote on it so that it dilutes the effects of creationists trying to make sure people don't get to see it.
SmittyPanda 1 year ago
this is how science works:
you state something(theory).
you try to find evidence that supports that.
it remains true untill someone disprooves it. example:
the world is flat and you'll fall off if you go near the edge. (evidence) a theory that gravity works in only one direction (down)
therefore the world has to be flat. Everyone bilieves it couse that's the best theory so far. later comes a man that states the world is round; everyone thinks he's insane.
diceasd 1 year ago
do know what i find funny, very few creationists and IDers come to this excellent video to pick on it. I wonder why that would be, since their "theory" is as sound as evolutionary theory. right, right?
burningeko 2 years ago
lipid protocells are more likely to have come before RNA because RNA is hard to form in a diluted solution like the ocean, but if it is concentrated in a spere, it bumps together more and makes longer chains. plus its much more easier to make a lipid protocel in a laboratory today than a simple RNA molecule.
Anthonyk312 2 years ago
do i get a diploma now?
marktimmer2212 2 years ago
Hell, I need a few decades to digest it.
mrtoja 2 years ago 2
what kind of clay did he say at 2:04?
shorty962 2 years ago
Montmorillonite
tbarker5252 2 years ago
Faith and science are different , different ways at looking at the world.
Some peoples' faith must be so very weak, if it is threatened by well established science.
God creating life and life evolving from the primordial clay are not contradictory.
If God could be proven, belief in God would not be faith. You will never convince an atheist by quoting from the bible.
776281 2 years ago
More than that, the whole idea that the people of the time could even have begun to understand the reality of creation is absurd.
You don't teach 4 year olds bio-chemical principles. You tell them it was all done in simple terms or by magic till they have the knowledge to understand it.
So even assuming GOD did create the universe, there is no reason to think that a book written FOR people of the time BY an all knowing GOD would bother to include the details at that time.
zippydebrain 2 years ago
I rather suspect he was hoping that at some point we would get that it was just a story and that the reality of HIS efforts to create the universe were fare more clever than described in the bible.
zippydebrain 2 years ago
"Faith" isn't a way of looking at the world. "Faith" - believing things without knowing why - is a vestigial behavior that was necessary for human evolution. It was probably selected for when agriculture was being discovered, since growing crops requires 'faith' that burying food (seed) in the ground would result in more food rather than wasting food. It's embellishment into religion is just like a rogue virus and it's time we found a cure.
postorm 2 years ago 11
@776381 Good laugh. Keep the jokes coming
BoracayOcean69 1 year ago
@776281
Science is a way of looking at the world.
Faith is a way of not looking at the world.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun science satisfies your intelligent brain. faith satisfies your heart and soul.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
Science is real.
The heart pumps blood.
Faith satisfies nothing.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun science explains the logical questions we have in our minds faith/religion explains the spiritual questions we have in our minds
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
What spiritual questions might you be talking about, and in what sense can faith be an explanation? Furthermore, what do you mean when you say spirit?
rkyeun 1 year ago
@rkyeun Questions like: why does the universe exist? why are we here in this world?.etc.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
Faith doesn't answer those questions. It guesses blindly with no way to know if it's right.
rkyeun 1 year ago
1 peter 2
6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
8i680085 2 years ago
If I was Potholer I would ban you. You shouldn't be quoting a book of myth on a science channel.
I'd ban you in a second.
baconeater 2 years ago
So maybe I am glad you can't do nothing but just blabling with your monley evoluted mind. What people shouldn't be doing is calling death upon themselves with the crazyest ilusion called evolution, now me quoting the word of GOD and all its wisdom should be banned? LOL. You are living in such utter darkness so dark that you can't see the simplest things in life, I am sorry and sad for you, if you could just read it and grasp its fullness things would change in you life, but till then, illusions
8i680085 2 years ago
I would ban it from my own Youtube channel. It has no place when it comes to rational discussion. If you want to quote a line that illustrates a point, fine, but to fill a comment section with mythological bs would be like me going to your channel and filling it up with the works of Dr. Seuss.
Evolution is fact, you are willfully ignorant, and I would hate to be like you.
baconeater 2 years ago
The thing is that whatever you are doing is expected even if it was 1000 years ago. Christians have been always persecuted by people like you, people who doesn't have the understanding, but the christian fight is not against people, is with the powers that controls, blinds and make use of people like you, you will never be able to understand that, like I said you are blind and the worst part of it is that you still don't want to see the truth.
8i680085 2 years ago
I'm not persecuting you. You have a right to think whatever you want. You are coming to a science channel to spew nonsense though.
I don't want nonsense, and you are trying to feed me nonsense. Now who exactly is fighting what?
I don't go to Christian or other religious forums or to churches, Mosques or Synagogues to give lessons on evolution and state there is no evidence for God.
You really need to take a look at yourself and what you are doing here.
baconeater 2 years ago