I have a mere requests and would appreciate an answer by anyone of you who may know the answer; what is the name of the son the Hitler Jugend are playing at the start and singing at the end? Danke, Shukran, Thank You.
CONT; pan Europeanism, they was Pan Germanist, Socialist, pro Islamic unlike neo nazi scum who paint Muslims like their Jewish Financiers. They was anti Zionist unlike far right Fascists such as English Defence League scum, they where anti capitalist anti christian anti jewish. Everything Neo-Nazi's and Fascists are not. With Nationalism there is left and right wing again, there are Capitalist Nationalists and National Socialists or National Bolsheviks.
CONT; People Social Freedom Movement another anti Marxist Socialist Movement that are similar to NSDAP but without an emphasis on racialism and more on green economics), you also have Social Libertarians on the left who are for no regulations on products and liberalism to the core with aspects such as Republicanism anti Monarchist and pro legalisation of all drugs. In Center you have Liberals, Social Democrats who are Capitalists essentially, Democrats etc...) NSDAP was anti Neo Nazi pro white
Left and Right Wing are based upon economic systems and finally, social positioning, on the right you have Corporatists, Fascists who are a form of Corporatism even though born from Socialism they turned drastically right, you have Capitalists and Economic Libertarians who are free market no regulation 100% privatized markets. On the left you have Anarchists, Marxists/ Communists, Socialists that are anti Marxism (Trade Unionists, Labour Parties, NSDAP and new PArty in UK PSFM aka People Social
Yes, it was a socialist Labour Party called National Socialist German Workers Party! Hitler actually studied Marx, Engels, Wagner, Darwin and Nietzsche!
@DDLjawoll Actually, hitler was a hard-on Right Wing Conservative- the opposite of Leftism. Left Wing- High taxes, free medical healthcare, good education. Liberalism- Supporting Liberty, Democracy and opposing Fascism and racism. National Socialism and Socialism are completely different things, you are a big idiot.
Nationalism is left wing by default. The French Revolution basically created the modern political spectrum, and the French revolutionaries who were left wing, fighting for the common french man, were Nationalists, under the Tri- color flag, fighting the Conservative Monarchy.
Framing Hitler on the left or the right just doesn't really work out. He was a dictator. To understand all the movements and politics you have to read extremely boring books that nobody on here is going to read. He killed and imprisoned liberals and leftists and hated intellectuals.
@DDLjawoll Exactly, so how is this argument relevant? Every authoritarian movement has many things in common. But to damn all of leftist ideology is like damning England for being in the same hemisphere as North Korea. It's just stupid.
@DDLjawoll This is why your argument is stupid, I'm right in the middle #1. The term leftist doesn't mean communist. If someone supports a leftist idea like medicare and wants a national health care program they are considered left leaning. In you're opinion, every single person that believes in these two things must love North Korea? That's like saying, if you like bread, you must love cheese burgers.
@DDLjawoll So North Korea, Maoist China, Soviet Russia and Hitler's Germany are all bad, but England is good?
To Band Nk,Maoist China,Soviet RussiaAnd Hitlers Germany Together Is Ridiculous Unless You're Discussing Bonapartism and Not Ideology.....It Seems To Be As Mindless As Corelating Childmolesters With Homosexuals (To Use A Ridiculous Parallel You May Be Familiar With!)
Without A Doubt One Of My Favourite Of The Fuhrers Speeches Set In A Triumph Of Filmmaking But As Any National Socialist Knows He's Referring To German Youth And Classes Explaining About How They All Have A Part To Play ,Nay A Duty To The Future .Classless Society ..Of Course ...Leftist ..Thats Trying To Pigeonhole NS Where It Only Partly Belongs As Ive Said To You So Many Times And Like A Stubborn Child You Just Deny ;;;NS WAS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST SOCIALISM, BUT A BROAD POLITICAL SPECTRUM 88
Right, it was Socialism combined with Nationalism and racial hygiene. But after all, that is the only Socialism because all else is internationalist liberal bullshit!
@DDLjawoll And There You Have The Crowning Glory Of The Bullshit You Have Swallowed Hook Line And Sinker.....That National Socialism Is Only Socialism That Is Exaactly What Nazbol Scum Want The World To Believe...And You Have Swallowed It To The Pit Of Your Stomach ...SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
You Would Do Well Listening To The Likes Of Leon Degrelle!
I 'll Send You Something By PM Though I Dont Hold Out Much Hope That It Will Cure Your Fanatical Adherence To And Infection By.. DIE ROTE PEST!!!!!!
So you think that the Waffen-SS as an international organization under German control, which even included Muslims and Indians and other non-Europeans, is a good example for Hitler Germany's "Non-Socialism" because the Waffen-SS fought against Stalin's Red Army. OK, but how should this convince anyone of Hitlers "more than just socialist" intentions, which ARE??? I bet if Trotsky hadn't been jewish, he would have joined the Waffen-SS to combat Stalin, too.
@DDLjawoll That Is Just A Ridiculous Chain Of Thought And Typical Of Someone Who Is Trying To Pigeonhole NS So They Can Feel ComfortableWith It In A Sanitized Form !
The Waffen SS Were The Embodyment Of The Most Dedicated National Socialists Nothing To Do With Fighting TheRed Army But Defending The NS StateAgainst Enemies Foreign And Domestic. As The SA Was Formed To Do And Did For Many Years Until They Lost Their Way And Forgot The Fundemental Difference (Race Aside!) Between NS And Socialism!
@DDLjawoll Tell me the "difference" between National Socialism and economic Socialism then, we all wanna see how superior your arguments are.
Sorry I Never Noticed This One and I Dont Have Much Time Just Now So I'll Give Just Part Of My Reply ..More To Follow:-
Didn't Marx And Engels In The German Ideology Damn The Lumpen Proletariat Because As They Said "They Will Never Acheive Class Conciosness,Whereas The Fuhrer Gave Them Shovels ,Work And Pride In Themselves And Their Race/Nation?
We're not talking about ideology but about Socialism as an economic system. You should be able to tell us the difference between National Socialism and economic left-wing Socialism (not ideological Communism!)
@DDLjawoll Whose The WE You're Referring To You Seem To Be Embracing My Point From Day 1 Without Realising It No One Is Deny IngSome Economic Socialist Priciples In National Socialism The Difference Is That You Seem To Deny There Was Any Other Economic Principles In The Third Reich Whereas Siemens Trading As Normal Also The Function Of Multiple Smal And Large Businesses DEF Being A Typical Example To Carry On Would be A Waste Of Time When Dealing With A Compulsive Self Deceiver Like Yourself
@DDLjawoll Plus How Can You Disregard what I Said about Marx And His attitude To Class Concioussness In The Lumpen Proletariat When You Reveal his Contradiction In Your Own Notes In Information On This Video ...You Really Are Just Wriggling About To Try To Not To Lose Your Red Coloured Specs When Looking At National Socialism!
Nazi system was not even close to LEftism, sir. Hitler's ruling style was Right Wing Conservatism extremeness. The nazi thinking style was very on the right- you can see it on the wing-side charts. Hitler was in the middle down right, which is Conservative Fascism/right wing.
And National Socialism and Socialism are different things too. National Socialism can be on the right wing, while Socialism is always on the left. Read books, I suggest a writer by the name of "Marx".
I didn't ask for this phony postwar neo-marxist-academic politically correct trash you guys spread in the web simply because it is utter nonsense. Who started this shit? Was it Trotsky or Luxemburg? To hell with you arrogant "New Left" liars having no evidence but faked literature written by nuts and scum!
@DDLjawoll I do not believe in political correctness, I am also not a Marxist. We speak of what the truth is, you speak of what MacArtheists say. Stalin, for an example, was not Liberal at all, even while being a left-winger. You have no idea what the terms mean.
I'm not from the new left, I'm from the leftist group that supports equality, taxation, education, work, and many other things. Karl Marx was the one who made the idea of COmmunism, and it just twisted in fascist idiot hands.
Internationalism is an important part of Socialism. The so called “National Socialism” is therefor no Socialism at all. It's a misnomer, just like calling a lawn mower an “up side down helicopter”. You are free to call it that way, but this won't turn the mower into a real helicopter. Both are technical devices which might bear a certain resemblance, but their design and purpose are completely different.
In Marxist theory, socialism, or the socialist mode of production, refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that eventually supersede capitalism. Socialism is a mode of production where criteria for economic activity is use-value and direct production for use through conscious economic planning, where monetary relations in the form of exchange-value and wage labor become irrelevant.
Lol, this video is retarded. Hitler had both rightist and leftist elements. He once stated that he didn't care whether the economy was socialistic or capitalistic, as long as it served the nation. This issue is very complex and we should research it trying to get closer to the truth, people who link Hitler with Socialism or Capitalism just want to discredit these ideologies in this stupid way.
@DDLjawoll read a book about how fascism works politically and economically, its fudamentaly corporatism and uses government arbitrators. Its not the socialist policies in place, but how the socialist policies are decided upon and put in place.
Fascism of Italy is one thing. But National Socialism of Germany is State Socialism with a strong government and a strong leader. But the State has a different meaning than to Fascists, to a Nazi the VOLK or Race is the State and there are no borders except the borders of blood. But because you can't control that, Hitler wanted to germanize all Aryans into a socialist racialist One-Party State.
@DDLjawoll Fascism is esentially a form of socialism, with a unique way of acheieving it. akey aspect of their politics were to remove any class conflict, only this would form a unified volk. have you ever heard the term, "if you go too far to the right you end up on the left"? not an entirely accurate statement, but an expression that helps describe why its difficult to draw lines between totalitarian states of the era. this falls under Third Position because it is unlike the traditional right
Fuck you. I never said Socialism is Communism. Socialism is love for your people, Communism is class war. Hitler was a Socialist, but he opposed class war, to him there was only one equal class, the Germans as a whole.
Seems to me that Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party espoused beliefs that you can attribute to both the left and right wing. I mean it's not like he was from Mars. He was a 20th century politician so of course his views are going to be easy to link to whichever right wing or left wing contemporary political party someone wants to attack. The fact is he was a f***ed up man with twisted beliefs. I'm so sick of every damned political group being associated with Nazis and Hitler.
Yeah, history doesn't support this nonsense. I'm too well versed on the subject of fascism that I have to laugh at this. Folks on the right who buy into this John Ray/ Jonah Goldberg BS are extremely sad people. Right wingers need to do some real reading from real historians. Robert Paxton, Ian Kershaw, Richard Evans, Roger Griffin, R.J.B Bosworth just to name a few. All the quotes in your vid description were before he made his deal with the bourgeoise. Truly sad, oh well. Can't expect more.
Yes, you've heard it all. More like NOTHING except the Hollywood mass media. Skrew you. You can google Yellow Socialism and read it on Wikipedia. A Socialist doesn't have to be a Communist, but any Socialist is a Left-Winger, nationalist or internationalist. What do you know about National Socialism you little wanker?
@DDLjawoll, My god your hostile when someone disagrees with you. I dont recall using slander in my statement, so relax!
And of course I know a socialist doesn't have to be a communist, in fact most are not and are anti communist themselves. Just as the vast majority of right wingers are anti Nazi.
And what do I know about National Socialism? My grandfather was a card carrying member of the Nazi party during the war and his 4 brothers served in the waffen SS.
This whole "what was Hitler" debate is soooo stupid. It's well known and documented that he was a psychopathic nut that hated all elements of freedom, whether they be right-wing or left-wing. He banned free-markets and unions at the same time. He was OBVIOUSLY more right-wing socially but as far as economics goes he was totalitarian, not left or right.
@DDLjawoll lol. You think that society can be summed up on one axis. Come on, dude. You need AT LEAST three. Social conservative vs social progressive, controlled economy vs free economy, big gov vs small gov. The variables are independent and you can't say that one axis can account for all of those variables. Look at left-libertarians, they are the most extreme in terms of wanting liberty. They're followed by right-libertarians, moderates, old-school conservatives, liberals, etc, etc.
Conservatism and Liberalism are opposed to Totalitarianism because they aren't left-wing but capitalist. If a progressive person is anti-totalitarian he's a democrat and useless.
@DDLjawoll This whole stupid right-left debate only exists because we only have two parties and we're told that voting is the answer...it's not. When the fuck has voting ever solved major problems? I can't think of any instances. Change comes through activism aka hard fucking work, not sitting around and then wandering into a voting booth every two years. We have a lot of work to do and this debate is not helping us at all.
@DDLjawoll The name? Come on now...don't use silly arguments. East Germany was called "The German Democratic Republic". Does that mean anything? Of course not; actions matter, not words. "If a progressive person is anti-totalitarian he's a democrat and useless." See, this proves point on voting. It makes almost no sense from a philosophical standpoint because anti-totalitarian progressives are left-libertarians, not democrats. But you proved my point that this is a scam to get you to vote.
@DDLjawoll National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. Socialists at all level are internationalist. And Hitler privatized mass parts of the state will cutting social services. Which is why he was adored by the right wing in Europe and in the US. Again, history and academia support that fascism was an extreme rightist ideology that made it's deal with traditional conservatives and the catholic church for state power.
Fuck your academics. Hitler was anti Vatican because he wasn't christian and the Pope was in foreign Rome. The difference between Communists and National Socialists is that the latter simply didn't kill the Cons and industrialists. What has this to do with Privatization? Nationalism is for State Power, too and not for what you claim. Fuck you.
@DDLjawoll Awwww, you poor little thing. You never read a real book on this, have you? The cons and industrialsts supported Hitler in exchange for party funds because Hitler was the best bulwark against the left. And privatization is a right wing action, Nationalization is left wing. Communism and Fascism are ideological opposites. And Hitler made his deal with the Catholic church and remained in good standing with them. Plus said he was doing gods work in Mein Kampf. Got to read books, sport :)
@DaHonestAbe I don´t be surpriced by any comment of those nutties anymore pal!Next claim is that Hitler was leftist coloured guy from a suburb and member of Black Panters is my guess!
Stop confusing leftism with authoritarianism. A society can have leftist economic views without being authoritarian. Besides, it's mostly the right who take away our social freedoms.
Rightism fail because it's an aristocracy that goes against democracy and equality.
Hitler promoted Unity of the classes which would of eventually bring it self up to the destruction of the classes, that is indeed a Leftish idea as well as Socialism itself, but, his national & philosophical ideas made it into a very far- right...
@DDLjawoll Conservatism is almost centrist type of idea. Nazism had lots of Republican ideas, which obviously also bring them to the right. High eugenics & nationalism - far right.
Republican ideas? You mean Privatization and upper-class interests, big business, Christianity, Zionism and high finance? Eugenics was popularized by progressives, not christian republicans. Nationalism was created by the French Revolution and Bonapartists, not by democratic right-wingers and monarchist scum! You don't understand anything, dude.
As an Eastern European you shouldn't lick republican assholes. If you want to support Americans, support Progressives such as Edward and Francis Bellamy, not Bush, Obama and other right-wing traitors!
It is a fact that the government of the National Socialist Party sold off public ownership in several state-owned firms in the middle of the 1930s. The firms belonged to a wide range of sectors: steel, mining, banking, local public utilities, shipyard, ship-lines, railways, etc. In addition to this, delivery of some public services produced by public administrations prior to the 1930s, especially social services and services related to work, was transferred to the private sector
Britain Must Become A Classless Society.......John Major(Conservative)
Well You Best Start Here Wi Us In Govan,We've Got Nae Class....Rab C Nesbitt!!
No I'm Not Showing Irreverence To The Fuhrer ...Just Trying To Ridicule NVAGestasipo,Parteigenasse18 and Your Own Ignorance To National Socialism ......God Bless America.....Land Of The Gay Bolshevik National Socialist Jewish White Collar Anythingbut Working for a Living But Not For Finding An Excuse For Having A Black Head Of State Party
@Wehrmacht34 If The Ramifications of your comment are true that all british are lunatics Due to the statement of a Tory Prick! then i suggest that due to your continents massive immoral and financial support to israel then you must be all zionists...but your statement really just shows you are a KNOW NOTHING....Political lines are not so easily drawn Especialy for NATIONAL SOCIALISM
Personally, I have germanic Nordic looking leftist-revolutionary National Socialist friends in England who find christian and other rightist nutcases as inferior and retarded as myself. John Major can fuck off, fucking anti-NS scum! He can f*ck the Queen and Prince Charles in the.... you know where.
@DDLjawoll Well At Least We Agree On John Major And The Tory Fuckwits.....My Point Is Though That You Pigeonhole NS as Soialism Merely Highlighting The Left Wing Of The Eagle So To Speak Not The Whole Bird That Is Not National Socialism Just a small Part Of A Great Vision!
NS cannot be socialist and right-wing at the same time. Stealing the emotional clothes of the national Conservatives to get rid of them doesn't make you right-wing. National Socialism was a much better method to get rid of Capitalism and Conservatives than Communism was. Adopting German Nationalism as a Socialist is the best thing a leader can do. Conservatives are removed from power without even realizing it.
What you don't realize, grandson, is that Hitler was a very clever Socialist. Hiding the Socialism under a deep rooted Nationalism / Germanism makes most Germans and industrials overlook what the party does behind the scenes and people supported Hitler without even knowing he was a Socialist. This was the best trick and method of all -- to get support from all classes without letting them know everything.
People didn't even know that the NSDAP had gay politicians and soldiers in its ranks. The SA did things too publicly and this contributed to the Night of the long Knives. Some Nazis felt "outed" by the very leftist Party members. Gregor Strasser also wanted to out his Leftism and RED-ism in public, he was killed because Hitler was against these kind of public political outings. He was too SMART and he would play a game with you, too and you wouldn't get it.
@DDLjawoll My Point Exactly Gregor Was Also Killed Because Of His Brothers Black Front Actions ....You Yourself Are Trying To Highlight One Aspect Of National Socialism Because Of Your Gay ,Revolutionary Socialist Bigotedness With A View To Alienating True National Socialists ....Bolshevisms Latest Mindgames ...And You My son Are nothing more Than a Lapdog!
@DDLjawoll What You Either Fail to ,Or Refuse To Realise jawoll Is The Fuhrer Was An Even ClevererPolitician Than That Socialists Followed Him Withiout Realising He Had Incorporated Whatever Necessary For The Benefit Of the German People He was Politically Winging it So To Speak To Fantastic Effect ...Capitalism Functioned Reasonably Well Under The Reich as Did Imperialist concerns,And Socialist Ones Too SA Were Curbed Because They. .Had Lost The Overall Vision To Revolutionary Socialism Only!!
Capitalism is non-german and everyone knows that. Capitalism is English and American and that's why Goebbels hated it and so did the Führer. Capitalism is making the rich richer and the poor poorer. All else isn't Capitalism, but social economics. Whatever Hitler didn't like about Communism was replaced by more modern progressive Socialism from U.S. Leftists and it doesn't matter how radical a Socialist is, he's an enemy of Capitalism because Capitalism opposes the COMMUNity!
I always knew you were a right-wing Capitalist worse than any liberal or social democrat. Well, what can you expect from someone who thinks that a Zionist British Party (BNP) and a long-dead subculture called C18 (Skrewdriver = Black Music) actually represents National Socialism. I still miss the "Zyklon B" comments, you must have forgotten them. Sounds "nationalist" and "socialist" to me, oh well. Who writes your history? Spielberg?
@DDLjawoll As Always You As All Yanks Think you know It All...You Draw Pathetic Conclusions To Justify Your Sick Outlook Communicating With You Is Like With Any Yank ...Talking To A Brick Wall NS Don't Need Your Sort.... Bolshie Lapdogs Thats Why We Had The Night Of The Long Knives If You'd Understood One word I Said You'd Know I Don't Support BNP Wheras You Are Trying To Reduce NS To Someting Around SOcialist Workers Party Who Have Just Come Out As Not Liking Jews ...Who WriItes Yours DrSeuss?
A More Honest And less bolshie Lapdog Title Would Be "Hitler wanted A Classless Society Based On Race " What You Wrote In The Info Once Again Shows Your Bolshie(Blinkered) Interpretation !
I have a mere requests and would appreciate an answer by anyone of you who may know the answer; what is the name of the son the Hitler Jugend are playing at the start and singing at the end? Danke, Shukran, Thank You.
CSmoCC 1 month ago
CONT; pan Europeanism, they was Pan Germanist, Socialist, pro Islamic unlike neo nazi scum who paint Muslims like their Jewish Financiers. They was anti Zionist unlike far right Fascists such as English Defence League scum, they where anti capitalist anti christian anti jewish. Everything Neo-Nazi's and Fascists are not. With Nationalism there is left and right wing again, there are Capitalist Nationalists and National Socialists or National Bolsheviks.
CSmoCC 1 month ago
CONT; People Social Freedom Movement another anti Marxist Socialist Movement that are similar to NSDAP but without an emphasis on racialism and more on green economics), you also have Social Libertarians on the left who are for no regulations on products and liberalism to the core with aspects such as Republicanism anti Monarchist and pro legalisation of all drugs. In Center you have Liberals, Social Democrats who are Capitalists essentially, Democrats etc...) NSDAP was anti Neo Nazi pro white
CSmoCC 1 month ago
Left and Right Wing are based upon economic systems and finally, social positioning, on the right you have Corporatists, Fascists who are a form of Corporatism even though born from Socialism they turned drastically right, you have Capitalists and Economic Libertarians who are free market no regulation 100% privatized markets. On the left you have Anarchists, Marxists/ Communists, Socialists that are anti Marxism (Trade Unionists, Labour Parties, NSDAP and new PArty in UK PSFM aka People Social
CSmoCC 1 month ago
So, was nationalsocialism left-wing?
LaZdiZorro 5 months ago
@LaZdiZorro
Yes, it was a socialist Labour Party called National Socialist German Workers Party! Hitler actually studied Marx, Engels, Wagner, Darwin and Nietzsche!
DDLjawoll 4 months ago 2
@DDLjawoll Actually, hitler was a hard-on Right Wing Conservative- the opposite of Leftism. Left Wing- High taxes, free medical healthcare, good education. Liberalism- Supporting Liberty, Democracy and opposing Fascism and racism. National Socialism and Socialism are completely different things, you are a big idiot.
MrMcGale 4 months ago
@DDLjawoll
Stupid! Darwinism is based on competition and natural selection, which is based akapitalizmusnak!
TheBuzzo01 2 months ago
@LaZdiZorro
Nationalism is left wing by default. The French Revolution basically created the modern political spectrum, and the French revolutionaries who were left wing, fighting for the common french man, were Nationalists, under the Tri- color flag, fighting the Conservative Monarchy.
sanik00 3 months ago
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MrReco12 2 months ago
Oh, yes... He was such a good-natured, benevolent, peace-loving person! Hahahaha...
karlokater 5 months ago
@karlokater
So left-wing class war and Stalin's bloody Revolution sound peaceful to you?
DDLjawoll 5 months ago 2
Why did the jewish God forsake the jews to be slaughtered?
MrTabby5000 5 months ago
Its funny how he talk about class systems and the way he treated the Jews
MortherNorth14 7 months ago
@MortherNorth14
Isn't it a real class system where one side is "chosen" and those who aren't "chosen by god" are "animals"?
DDLjawoll 7 months ago
Framing Hitler on the left or the right just doesn't really work out. He was a dictator. To understand all the movements and politics you have to read extremely boring books that nobody on here is going to read. He killed and imprisoned liberals and leftists and hated intellectuals.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 8 months ago
Didnt Pol Pot and Mao also kill liberals, leftists and intellectuals?
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll Exactly, so how is this argument relevant? Every authoritarian movement has many things in common. But to damn all of leftist ideology is like damning England for being in the same hemisphere as North Korea. It's just stupid.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 8 months ago
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT
So North Korea, Maoist China, Soviet Russia and Hitler's Germany are all bad, but England is good?
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll I said damning England for being in the same hemisphere as N Korea. Yes, North Korea sucks.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 8 months ago
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT
NK is the only socialist regime left. All other countries, including Russia and China, are capitalist again. If you hate NK you cannot be a Leftist!
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll This is why your argument is stupid, I'm right in the middle #1. The term leftist doesn't mean communist. If someone supports a leftist idea like medicare and wants a national health care program they are considered left leaning. In you're opinion, every single person that believes in these two things must love North Korea? That's like saying, if you like bread, you must love cheese burgers.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll So North Korea, Maoist China, Soviet Russia and Hitler's Germany are all bad, but England is good?
To Band Nk,Maoist China,Soviet RussiaAnd Hitlers Germany Together Is Ridiculous Unless You're Discussing Bonapartism and Not Ideology.....It Seems To Be As Mindless As Corelating Childmolesters With Homosexuals (To Use A Ridiculous Parallel You May Be Familiar With!)
SSWIKINGgrandson 6 months ago
Without A Doubt One Of My Favourite Of The Fuhrers Speeches Set In A Triumph Of Filmmaking But As Any National Socialist Knows He's Referring To German Youth And Classes Explaining About How They All Have A Part To Play ,Nay A Duty To The Future .Classless Society ..Of Course ...Leftist ..Thats Trying To Pigeonhole NS Where It Only Partly Belongs As Ive Said To You So Many Times And Like A Stubborn Child You Just Deny ;;;NS WAS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST SOCIALISM, BUT A BROAD POLITICAL SPECTRUM 88
SSWIKINGgrandson 8 months ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
Right, it was Socialism combined with Nationalism and racial hygiene. But after all, that is the only Socialism because all else is internationalist liberal bullshit!
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll And There You Have The Crowning Glory Of The Bullshit You Have Swallowed Hook Line And Sinker.....That National Socialism Is Only Socialism That Is Exaactly What Nazbol Scum Want The World To Believe...And You Have Swallowed It To The Pit Of Your Stomach ...SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
You Would Do Well Listening To The Likes Of Leon Degrelle!
I 'll Send You Something By PM Though I Dont Hold Out Much Hope That It Will Cure Your Fanatical Adherence To And Infection By.. DIE ROTE PEST!!!!!!
SSWIKINGgrandson 8 months ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
So you think that the Waffen-SS as an international organization under German control, which even included Muslims and Indians and other non-Europeans, is a good example for Hitler Germany's "Non-Socialism" because the Waffen-SS fought against Stalin's Red Army. OK, but how should this convince anyone of Hitlers "more than just socialist" intentions, which ARE??? I bet if Trotsky hadn't been jewish, he would have joined the Waffen-SS to combat Stalin, too.
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll That Is Just A Ridiculous Chain Of Thought And Typical Of Someone Who Is Trying To Pigeonhole NS So They Can Feel ComfortableWith It In A Sanitized Form !
The Waffen SS Were The Embodyment Of The Most Dedicated National Socialists Nothing To Do With Fighting TheRed Army But Defending The NS StateAgainst Enemies Foreign And Domestic. As The SA Was Formed To Do And Did For Many Years Until They Lost Their Way And Forgot The Fundemental Difference (Race Aside!) Between NS And Socialism!
SSWIKINGgrandson 8 months ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
Tell me the "difference" between National Socialism and economic Socialism then, we all wanna see how superior your arguments are.
DDLjawoll 8 months ago
@DDLjawoll Tell me the "difference" between National Socialism and economic Socialism then, we all wanna see how superior your arguments are.
Sorry I Never Noticed This One and I Dont Have Much Time Just Now So I'll Give Just Part Of My Reply ..More To Follow:-
Didn't Marx And Engels In The German Ideology Damn The Lumpen Proletariat Because As They Said "They Will Never Acheive Class Conciosness,Whereas The Fuhrer Gave Them Shovels ,Work And Pride In Themselves And Their Race/Nation?
SSWIKINGgrandson 6 months ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
We're not talking about ideology but about Socialism as an economic system. You should be able to tell us the difference between National Socialism and economic left-wing Socialism (not ideological Communism!)
DDLjawoll 6 months ago
@DDLjawoll Whose The WE You're Referring To You Seem To Be Embracing My Point From Day 1 Without Realising It No One Is Deny IngSome Economic Socialist Priciples In National Socialism The Difference Is That You Seem To Deny There Was Any Other Economic Principles In The Third Reich Whereas Siemens Trading As Normal Also The Function Of Multiple Smal And Large Businesses DEF Being A Typical Example To Carry On Would be A Waste Of Time When Dealing With A Compulsive Self Deceiver Like Yourself
SSWIKINGgrandson 6 months ago
@DDLjawoll Plus How Can You Disregard what I Said about Marx And His attitude To Class Concioussness In The Lumpen Proletariat When You Reveal his Contradiction In Your Own Notes In Information On This Video ...You Really Are Just Wriggling About To Try To Not To Lose Your Red Coloured Specs When Looking At National Socialism!
SSWIKINGgrandson 6 months ago
Nazi system was not even close to LEftism, sir. Hitler's ruling style was Right Wing Conservatism extremeness. The nazi thinking style was very on the right- you can see it on the wing-side charts. Hitler was in the middle down right, which is Conservative Fascism/right wing.
And National Socialism and Socialism are different things too. National Socialism can be on the right wing, while Socialism is always on the left. Read books, I suggest a writer by the name of "Marx".
MrMcGale 4 months ago
@MrMcGale
I didn't ask for this phony postwar neo-marxist-academic politically correct trash you guys spread in the web simply because it is utter nonsense. Who started this shit? Was it Trotsky or Luxemburg? To hell with you arrogant "New Left" liars having no evidence but faked literature written by nuts and scum!
DDLjawoll 4 months ago
@DDLjawoll I do not believe in political correctness, I am also not a Marxist. We speak of what the truth is, you speak of what MacArtheists say. Stalin, for an example, was not Liberal at all, even while being a left-winger. You have no idea what the terms mean.
I'm not from the new left, I'm from the leftist group that supports equality, taxation, education, work, and many other things. Karl Marx was the one who made the idea of COmmunism, and it just twisted in fascist idiot hands.
MrMcGale 4 months ago
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Internationalism is an important part of Socialism. The so called “National Socialism” is therefor no Socialism at all. It's a misnomer, just like calling a lawn mower an “up side down helicopter”. You are free to call it that way, but this won't turn the mower into a real helicopter. Both are technical devices which might bear a certain resemblance, but their design and purpose are completely different.
Sloyment 8 months ago
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Sloyment 8 months ago
In Marxist theory, socialism, or the socialist mode of production, refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that eventually supersede capitalism. Socialism is a mode of production where criteria for economic activity is use-value and direct production for use through conscious economic planning, where monetary relations in the form of exchange-value and wage labor become irrelevant.
witepried 9 months ago
Lol, this video is retarded. Hitler had both rightist and leftist elements. He once stated that he didn't care whether the economy was socialistic or capitalistic, as long as it served the nation. This issue is very complex and we should research it trying to get closer to the truth, people who link Hitler with Socialism or Capitalism just want to discredit these ideologies in this stupid way.
HelenaXVI 9 months ago
@DDLjawoll
What's so wrong in a "classless race based nation"?
I call that a healthy nation!
And you are dead wrong, exactly that Hitler wanted no classes among his race brothers makes him an ANTI-LEFTIST!!!
Because leftists love class struggle and to devide anything into classes!
You should read some books instead of watching Dancing with the Stars and Fake-History Channel!
WUNDENFL4MME 9 months ago
National Socialism and Fascism are Right-Wing Socialism
vito445 9 months ago
@vito445
Really? How can economic Socialism be right-wing?
DDLjawoll 9 months ago
@DDLjawoll read a book about how fascism works politically and economically, its fudamentaly corporatism and uses government arbitrators. Its not the socialist policies in place, but how the socialist policies are decided upon and put in place.
vito445 9 months ago
@vito445
Fascism of Italy is one thing. But National Socialism of Germany is State Socialism with a strong government and a strong leader. But the State has a different meaning than to Fascists, to a Nazi the VOLK or Race is the State and there are no borders except the borders of blood. But because you can't control that, Hitler wanted to germanize all Aryans into a socialist racialist One-Party State.
DDLjawoll 9 months ago
@DDLjawoll Fascism is esentially a form of socialism, with a unique way of acheieving it. akey aspect of their politics were to remove any class conflict, only this would form a unified volk. have you ever heard the term, "if you go too far to the right you end up on the left"? not an entirely accurate statement, but an expression that helps describe why its difficult to draw lines between totalitarian states of the era. this falls under Third Position because it is unlike the traditional right
vito445 9 months ago
@DDLjawoll
NATIONAL socialism is nothing else then care for your family.
In a bigger scale: YOUR NATION!
Is that wrong? Caring for one's family?
YOU are unable to differentiate NATIONALsocialism
from INTERNAL socialism = Marxism = Communism = Bolshevism
YOU understood nothing and want to video-lecture others.
LOL
WUNDENFL4MME 9 months ago
@WUNDENFL4MME
Fuck you. I never said Socialism is Communism. Socialism is love for your people, Communism is class war. Hitler was a Socialist, but he opposed class war, to him there was only one equal class, the Germans as a whole.
DDLjawoll 9 months ago
what's the name of the final autum from this video.. ??? o_O
Jorge008 10 months ago
YES WE CAN!!! HOPE AND CHANGE!!! *I knew I'd heard of a radical leftist using slogans and powerful speeches to rise to power!
USFSCrimes 10 months ago
Seems to me that Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party espoused beliefs that you can attribute to both the left and right wing. I mean it's not like he was from Mars. He was a 20th century politician so of course his views are going to be easy to link to whichever right wing or left wing contemporary political party someone wants to attack. The fact is he was a f***ed up man with twisted beliefs. I'm so sick of every damned political group being associated with Nazis and Hitler.
phazez 11 months ago
Yeah, history doesn't support this nonsense. I'm too well versed on the subject of fascism that I have to laugh at this. Folks on the right who buy into this John Ray/ Jonah Goldberg BS are extremely sad people. Right wingers need to do some real reading from real historians. Robert Paxton, Ian Kershaw, Richard Evans, Roger Griffin, R.J.B Bosworth just to name a few. All the quotes in your vid description were before he made his deal with the bourgeoise. Truly sad, oh well. Can't expect more.
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
Nazism was flawed social darwinism based upon race
Communism was flawed social darwinism based upon class
Zionism is flawed social darwinism based upon religion
Avoid dualistic reasoning patterns & dialectic materialism for a happier life.
All are headed in the same direction with time, as with all human creations. A man is a fool to consider himself his own master!
AVOID "ISM" s
i lost mine, if you find it ...you can keep it!
The USA is governed by corporations led by a multiheaded monster.
rollthefilmutube 1 year ago
Hitler a leftist? wtf, now I've heard it all.
7080hutchison 1 year ago
@7080hutchison
Yes, you've heard it all. More like NOTHING except the Hollywood mass media. Skrew you. You can google Yellow Socialism and read it on Wikipedia. A Socialist doesn't have to be a Communist, but any Socialist is a Left-Winger, nationalist or internationalist. What do you know about National Socialism you little wanker?
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll, My god your hostile when someone disagrees with you. I dont recall using slander in my statement, so relax!
And of course I know a socialist doesn't have to be a communist, in fact most are not and are anti communist themselves. Just as the vast majority of right wingers are anti Nazi.
And what do I know about National Socialism? My grandfather was a card carrying member of the Nazi party during the war and his 4 brothers served in the waffen SS.
Respond if you want but be civil!
7080hutchison 1 year ago
@7080hutchison
So when did your grandfather call himself a right-wing Conservative who is opposed to the Socialism in National Socialism. You must be kidding me.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
This whole "what was Hitler" debate is soooo stupid. It's well known and documented that he was a psychopathic nut that hated all elements of freedom, whether they be right-wing or left-wing. He banned free-markets and unions at the same time. He was OBVIOUSLY more right-wing socially but as far as economics goes he was totalitarian, not left or right.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@tstruss912
Totalitarianism IS left-wing!
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll lol. You think that society can be summed up on one axis. Come on, dude. You need AT LEAST three. Social conservative vs social progressive, controlled economy vs free economy, big gov vs small gov. The variables are independent and you can't say that one axis can account for all of those variables. Look at left-libertarians, they are the most extreme in terms of wanting liberty. They're followed by right-libertarians, moderates, old-school conservatives, liberals, etc, etc.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@tstruss912
Conservatism and Liberalism are opposed to Totalitarianism because they aren't left-wing but capitalist. If a progressive person is anti-totalitarian he's a democrat and useless.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll This whole stupid right-left debate only exists because we only have two parties and we're told that voting is the answer...it's not. When the fuck has voting ever solved major problems? I can't think of any instances. Change comes through activism aka hard fucking work, not sitting around and then wandering into a voting booth every two years. We have a lot of work to do and this debate is not helping us at all.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@tstruss912
Yet you seem to be ignorant of the fact that NSDAP means National Socialist German Workers Party. Not a conservative name, is it?
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll The name? Come on now...don't use silly arguments. East Germany was called "The German Democratic Republic". Does that mean anything? Of course not; actions matter, not words. "If a progressive person is anti-totalitarian he's a democrat and useless." See, this proves point on voting. It makes almost no sense from a philosophical standpoint because anti-totalitarian progressives are left-libertarians, not democrats. But you proved my point that this is a scam to get you to vote.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. Socialists at all level are internationalist. And Hitler privatized mass parts of the state will cutting social services. Which is why he was adored by the right wing in Europe and in the US. Again, history and academia support that fascism was an extreme rightist ideology that made it's deal with traditional conservatives and the catholic church for state power.
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
@DaHonestAbe
Fuck your academics. Hitler was anti Vatican because he wasn't christian and the Pope was in foreign Rome. The difference between Communists and National Socialists is that the latter simply didn't kill the Cons and industrialists. What has this to do with Privatization? Nationalism is for State Power, too and not for what you claim. Fuck you.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll Awwww, you poor little thing. You never read a real book on this, have you? The cons and industrialsts supported Hitler in exchange for party funds because Hitler was the best bulwark against the left. And privatization is a right wing action, Nationalization is left wing. Communism and Fascism are ideological opposites. And Hitler made his deal with the Catholic church and remained in good standing with them. Plus said he was doing gods work in Mein Kampf. Got to read books, sport :)
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
@DaHonestAbe I don´t be surpriced by any comment of those nutties anymore pal!Next claim is that Hitler was leftist coloured guy from a suburb and member of Black Panters is my guess!
zsylvana 1 year ago
@tstruss912
Yet you seem to be ignorant of the fact that NSDAP means National Socialist German Workers Party. Not a conservative name, is it?
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
Hitler was against trade unions.
Stop confusing leftism with authoritarianism. A society can have leftist economic views without being authoritarian. Besides, it's mostly the right who take away our social freedoms.
Rightism fail because it's an aristocracy that goes against democracy and equality.
IMolestedYourSister 1 year ago
@IMolestedYourSister
Bullshit. Stalin, Mao and Kim Il Sung opposed democracy.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
Hitler promoted Unity of the classes which would of eventually bring it self up to the destruction of the classes, that is indeed a Leftish idea as well as Socialism itself, but, his national & philosophical ideas made it into a very far- right...
SlavicFront88 1 year ago
@SlavicFront88
Far-right my ass. Rightism is Conservatism and NS wasn't far-conservative.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll Conservatism is almost centrist type of idea. Nazism had lots of Republican ideas, which obviously also bring them to the right. High eugenics & nationalism - far right.
SlavicFront88 1 year ago
@SlavicFront88
Republican ideas? You mean Privatization and upper-class interests, big business, Christianity, Zionism and high finance? Eugenics was popularized by progressives, not christian republicans. Nationalism was created by the French Revolution and Bonapartists, not by democratic right-wingers and monarchist scum! You don't understand anything, dude.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@SlavicFront88
As an Eastern European you shouldn't lick republican assholes. If you want to support Americans, support Progressives such as Edward and Francis Bellamy, not Bush, Obama and other right-wing traitors!
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
It is a fact that the government of the National Socialist Party sold off public ownership in several state-owned firms in the middle of the 1930s. The firms belonged to a wide range of sectors: steel, mining, banking, local public utilities, shipyard, ship-lines, railways, etc. In addition to this, delivery of some public services produced by public administrations prior to the 1930s, especially social services and services related to work, was transferred to the private sector
MrReco12 1 year ago
@MrReco12
Bullshit coming from a silly Marxist!
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll
Actually it is from an academic article entitled " Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in Nazi Germany"
I can list the corporations he privatized if you like?
MrReco12 1 year ago
I really don't know who to agree with in these comments. It's like Nazi's arguing with even bigger Nazi''s
Jasonthegaiface 1 year ago
Huge nice material. You are a good reporter.
Keaborn 1 year ago
@Keaborn
Thanks, comrade. Hail Röhm!
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
Britain Must Become A Classless Society.......John Major(Conservative)
Well You Best Start Here Wi Us In Govan,We've Got Nae Class....Rab C Nesbitt!!
No I'm Not Showing Irreverence To The Fuhrer ...Just Trying To Ridicule NVAGestasipo,Parteigenasse18 and Your Own Ignorance To National Socialism ......God Bless America.....Land Of The Gay Bolshevik National Socialist Jewish White Collar Anythingbut Working for a Living But Not For Finding An Excuse For Having A Black Head Of State Party
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
Conservatism is based on a class system. If a reactionary Brit really said that it shows once more that you on your isolated island are lunatics.
Wehrmacht34 1 year ago
@Wehrmacht34 If The Ramifications of your comment are true that all british are lunatics Due to the statement of a Tory Prick! then i suggest that due to your continents massive immoral and financial support to israel then you must be all zionists...but your statement really just shows you are a KNOW NOTHING....Political lines are not so easily drawn Especialy for NATIONAL SOCIALISM
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
Personally, I have germanic Nordic looking leftist-revolutionary National Socialist friends in England who find christian and other rightist nutcases as inferior and retarded as myself. John Major can fuck off, fucking anti-NS scum! He can f*ck the Queen and Prince Charles in the.... you know where.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll Well At Least We Agree On John Major And The Tory Fuckwits.....My Point Is Though That You Pigeonhole NS as Soialism Merely Highlighting The Left Wing Of The Eagle So To Speak Not The Whole Bird That Is Not National Socialism Just a small Part Of A Great Vision!
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
NS cannot be socialist and right-wing at the same time. Stealing the emotional clothes of the national Conservatives to get rid of them doesn't make you right-wing. National Socialism was a much better method to get rid of Capitalism and Conservatives than Communism was. Adopting German Nationalism as a Socialist is the best thing a leader can do. Conservatives are removed from power without even realizing it.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
What you don't realize, grandson, is that Hitler was a very clever Socialist. Hiding the Socialism under a deep rooted Nationalism / Germanism makes most Germans and industrials overlook what the party does behind the scenes and people supported Hitler without even knowing he was a Socialist. This was the best trick and method of all -- to get support from all classes without letting them know everything.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
People didn't even know that the NSDAP had gay politicians and soldiers in its ranks. The SA did things too publicly and this contributed to the Night of the long Knives. Some Nazis felt "outed" by the very leftist Party members. Gregor Strasser also wanted to out his Leftism and RED-ism in public, he was killed because Hitler was against these kind of public political outings. He was too SMART and he would play a game with you, too and you wouldn't get it.
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll My Point Exactly Gregor Was Also Killed Because Of His Brothers Black Front Actions ....You Yourself Are Trying To Highlight One Aspect Of National Socialism Because Of Your Gay ,Revolutionary Socialist Bigotedness With A View To Alienating True National Socialists ....Bolshevisms Latest Mindgames ...And You My son Are nothing more Than a Lapdog!
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll What You Either Fail to ,Or Refuse To Realise jawoll Is The Fuhrer Was An Even ClevererPolitician Than That Socialists Followed Him Withiout Realising He Had Incorporated Whatever Necessary For The Benefit Of the German People He was Politically Winging it So To Speak To Fantastic Effect ...Capitalism Functioned Reasonably Well Under The Reich as Did Imperialist concerns,And Socialist Ones Too SA Were Curbed Because They. .Had Lost The Overall Vision To Revolutionary Socialism Only!!
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
@SSWIKINGgrandson
Capitalism is non-german and everyone knows that. Capitalism is English and American and that's why Goebbels hated it and so did the Führer. Capitalism is making the rich richer and the poor poorer. All else isn't Capitalism, but social economics. Whatever Hitler didn't like about Communism was replaced by more modern progressive Socialism from U.S. Leftists and it doesn't matter how radical a Socialist is, he's an enemy of Capitalism because Capitalism opposes the COMMUNity!
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
I always knew you were a right-wing Capitalist worse than any liberal or social democrat. Well, what can you expect from someone who thinks that a Zionist British Party (BNP) and a long-dead subculture called C18 (Skrewdriver = Black Music) actually represents National Socialism. I still miss the "Zyklon B" comments, you must have forgotten them. Sounds "nationalist" and "socialist" to me, oh well. Who writes your history? Spielberg?
DDLjawoll 1 year ago
@DDLjawoll As Always You As All Yanks Think you know It All...You Draw Pathetic Conclusions To Justify Your Sick Outlook Communicating With You Is Like With Any Yank ...Talking To A Brick Wall NS Don't Need Your Sort.... Bolshie Lapdogs Thats Why We Had The Night Of The Long Knives If You'd Understood One word I Said You'd Know I Don't Support BNP Wheras You Are Trying To Reduce NS To Someting Around SOcialist Workers Party Who Have Just Come Out As Not Liking Jews ...Who WriItes Yours DrSeuss?
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
A More Honest And less bolshie Lapdog Title Would Be "Hitler wanted A Classless Society Based On Race " What You Wrote In The Info Once Again Shows Your Bolshie(Blinkered) Interpretation !
SSWIKINGgrandson 1 year ago
Very good and very true. Grandson will be very shocked....
NVAGestasipo 1 year ago
Like all Neo-Nazis.
parteigenasse18 1 year ago