This is my favorite throw in Judo. Unfortunately, the IJF has watered down competitive Judo so much I can only use this in MMA and BJJ. This is particularly sad since I started in Judo in 2008 and had a lot of success with this throw. I have to use my 2nd and 3rd favorites in harai goshi and yoko otoshi only now.
Very nice Ankle picks and probably effective however neither one was Kibisu Gaeshi. The traditional method is an inside pick with uke advancing and tori going down to one knee or picking outside with uke retreating and tori advancing. Your ways are wrestling modifications and go against the spirit of judo by using opposing force.
@zakidine Je pense qu'il fait la démonstration de la technique en douceur. Lors de l'utilisation réelle, je pense que l'agression et le contrôle de la distance le protège contre un coup de pied au visage.
@zakidine Dans le contexte demonstration oui un coup de genou est envisageable. En revanche si tu le place en contexte réaliste ou tu as attiré ton adversaire ou l'as déséquilibré vers toi, tu peux ramasser sa jambe sans trop de danger si tu te places bien.Contrairement à ce que dit ninjalla, c'est possible, donc un bon placement est necessaire afin de réduire ce danger.
Cupping the back of knee works really well for this too by the way (which is still legal in Judo for now so long as you don't grab the pant leg to begin the attack)
@27albrecht Its still legal in Judo outside the IJF, too. The IJF is weak now imo. Ruining the art for no reason except they don't want to train techniques that beat them.
I've gotten this move on bigger guys before, I find it throws them off if you drag them down and pull them back for a couple of steps then shoot forward for it, they never see it coming
We are allowed this year but IJF looking at a rule change...waiting for trials to finish; only allowed currently if it is with an open hand grasp of the leg; not a closed fist grab of the uniform below the belt...
@WarJudoka what tournament were you at? because these throws are still legal. morote gari is banned from the 1st Januar however. If they wern't letting you use te guruma or kata guruma i'd change your society!
I'm not ripping on Judo or anyone but I seriosuly wouldn't call this a "throw". The go kyo (the 40 throws of Judo) are still the most impressive throws even with the extra 27.
This is my favorite throw in Judo. Unfortunately, the IJF has watered down competitive Judo so much I can only use this in MMA and BJJ. This is particularly sad since I started in Judo in 2008 and had a lot of success with this throw. I have to use my 2nd and 3rd favorites in harai goshi and yoko otoshi only now.
TheTerrorUforgot 2 days ago
just watch a knee going to your nose
enios3 6 months ago
@enios3 True..
ninjalla 6 months ago
i admire judo even i fits not the most effective shoot self deffence.. when it comes to close combat i think judo is the best!
children and youth often need judo more then maybe older people cause they really wrestle more then they fight
judo is an excellent jmartial art to accomodate another martial art!
if you know some distnace figth and judo you would be very deffended
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
My favorite throw =)
TheTerrorUforgot 1 year ago
Nothing I would use outside judo though... Unless I somehow felt like breaking some fingers and taking knee to the face...
plus: sumi gaeshi goes where? :)
Maturkus 1 year ago
Very nice Ankle picks and probably effective however neither one was Kibisu Gaeshi. The traditional method is an inside pick with uke advancing and tori going down to one knee or picking outside with uke retreating and tori advancing. Your ways are wrestling modifications and go against the spirit of judo by using opposing force.
CaptainObfuscation 1 year ago
Et si au moment ou il le fait tomber; l'autre réagit avec son autre pied en donnant un coup vers le visage ? !
zakidine 1 year ago
@zakidine No, Ce pas possible
ninjalla 1 year ago
@ninjalla
je vois, en faite tu bloques son autre jambe avec la main merci !!
zakidine 1 year ago
@zakidine
karo parysien réalise cette technique de Judo très souvent en MMA, sans prob, et les coups de genou y sont valides!
patrickangus16 1 year ago
@zakidine Je pense qu'il fait la démonstration de la technique en douceur. Lors de l'utilisation réelle, je pense que l'agression et le contrôle de la distance le protège contre un coup de pied au visage.
hkdharmon 1 year ago
@zakidine Dans le contexte demonstration oui un coup de genou est envisageable. En revanche si tu le place en contexte réaliste ou tu as attiré ton adversaire ou l'as déséquilibré vers toi, tu peux ramasser sa jambe sans trop de danger si tu te places bien.Contrairement à ce que dit ninjalla, c'est possible, donc un bon placement est necessaire afin de réduire ce danger.
Bien à toi
laokon 6 months ago
Cupping the back of knee works really well for this too by the way (which is still legal in Judo for now so long as you don't grab the pant leg to begin the attack)
27albrecht 2 years ago
Good point, thanks
ninjalla 2 years ago
@27albrecht Its still legal in Judo outside the IJF, too. The IJF is weak now imo. Ruining the art for no reason except they don't want to train techniques that beat them.
TheTerrorUforgot 1 year ago
@27albrecht That depends on the ref.
TheTerrorUforgot 1 year ago
@TheTerrorUforgot Doesn't everything? ;)
27albrecht 1 year ago
@27albrecht Yeah and if they sprawl you can switch to knee and heel to hunt a single leg.
TheTerrorUforgot 2 days ago
I've gotten this move on bigger guys before, I find it throws them off if you drag them down and pull them back for a couple of steps then shoot forward for it, they never see it coming
27albrecht 2 years ago
Since the new judo rules came out my last tournament, they didnt let me grab below the waist. no morte gari, te guruma, or even kata guruma.
WarJudoka 2 years ago 2
We are allowed this year but IJF looking at a rule change...waiting for trials to finish; only allowed currently if it is with an open hand grasp of the leg; not a closed fist grab of the uniform below the belt...
chchjudoschool 2 years ago
@WarJudoka what tournament were you at? because these throws are still legal. morote gari is banned from the 1st Januar however. If they wern't letting you use te guruma or kata guruma i'd change your society!
Grove2000 2 years ago
I was asking mikey4u1984.
bearboy01 2 years ago
Set up the ankle pick with the gi or without?
bearboy01 2 years ago
Here it's done with the gi
ninjalla 2 years ago
@bearboy01 You can watch a Cael Sanderson vid for some good no gi ankle picks.
TheTerrorUforgot 1 year ago
kibinsu = tornozelo
Alexandr101 2 years ago
I wrestle and train bjj together. In wrestling the ankle pick is my favorite takedown, this is like a gi version of an ankle pick I can try.
bearboy01 2 years ago
how do you set up for it?
mikey4u1984 2 years ago
This one is very effective for bjj also xD
ghigliano 2 years ago
I'm not ripping on Judo or anyone but I seriosuly wouldn't call this a "throw". The go kyo (the 40 throws of Judo) are still the most impressive throws even with the extra 27.
TheInfinite91 2 years ago
According to Kodokan for Kibisu-gaeshi you need a heel-grip, for Kuchiki-Taoshi a leg-grip. So we can see both waza in the video.
HalkUntier 2 years ago
Thank you for clearing this
ninjalla 2 years ago
You're welcome
HalkUntier 2 years ago
KUCHIKI DAOSHI
GATILLOX 2 years ago
this is uchiki ta oshi
MrAlvaro 2 years ago
Sí,
ninjalla 2 years ago
and that's not kibisu gaeshi, it's kuchiki taoshi
poladores 2 years ago
I just wanted to say I love all these Judo videos. They help me remember my Japanese for my belt tests. Thanks for posting them!
dialupking 3 years ago
You're welcome dialupking
ninjalla 3 years ago