@Hovers82 well the word god is fairly new to humanity. But if by god you mean creator. Then yeah, i do believe we did not evolve from apes. Instead, we're a mix of primates, and supreme beings. Did you know the church makes millions of untaxed money each year? Apparently alot of people dont. I respect your viewpoint though. Would you consider god and extra dimensional beings to be the same thing? Get back at me!
@id252473 God and extra dimensional beings can never be the same. The Creator and the Creations is not the same. The Creator needs no one or nothing from any of the creations. Than that is truly the Most powerful the Most Mighty then that what we can call GOD. true?
@Hovers82 haha thats what i said! Apparently the all powerful being just has a soft spot for money. And apparently he wants us to gather every sunday to compare clothing as well. I do believe in a creator, there is plenty of proof for that.
@id252473 Truly the God that you apprehend is different that the One i worship. The God that i worship is all powerful and does not need anything from His creation. If we worship him or not worship him, he still gives us all that we want. He is truly The Merciful. The God that i worship creates everything in this world and everything beyond this earth.
@flpackman1 God is free of needs ! He does not need anything from us. It is US that needs everything from God. If you are worshiping some deity which needs money, truly that is not a God!
@Hovers82 My medulla oblongata controls my heartbeat... And your medulla oblongata controls yours. Not some unseen uninterested fantasy being.
If god did exist... Which one is he? I found a list of over 2600 of these mythical deities. And I am confused on which one I am supposed to kowtow to. My simple brain can't absorb the necessary information to make an educated decision on who to follow, that I have chosen to not believe in ANY of them.
@cdickenson64 You should choose the One who created your medulla oblongata :)
He do exist and He does not need anything from of this creation.
There is only One God. Believe me, There is no other gods. There is only One True God, the One who create this universe, the One who create us all humans, the One who created us and guides us to the correct path which He prefers.
Surely, the hearafter exist, and we will all be judge by Him for what we have done while we are on earth !
@Hovers82 We'll never know.... And I am not wasting my time on Pascal's wager either. I live clean with better than christian morals, so I am good... If you are right. I just cannot believe.
@Hovers82 You say "Dont take any risk dude, if there is a afterlife" That is exactly pascals wager. You say too "good news is im not following the morals which u mentioned :)" Why not? If my morals are better than the christian moral of sin all week long and lie to your "god" and say your sorry, while nursing a monstrous hangover, and listening to your religious leader apologize once again for molesting the little boys of the congregation. Okay I agree, I do not want your morals.
@Hovers82 If there is a heaven and hell, I would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven to a narcissistic, lying shut in.
But since this god nor any other exist... Including the lord of the dark-side, Satan, I will be happy to end my life as a worm buffet or just to flame out in the crematorium.
@cdickenson64 God is all Merciful and Forgiving. Believe that there is no other gods or lords or any other being worthy of worship, and i repeat, there is NO other creatures or supernatural powers beings. There is only One God. The True the Mighty. He does not need anything from anyone. Worship him alone and you will get all the happiness in this world and in the afterlife..
@Hovers82 And of which god do you speak? There are many gods and even the bible says that, if you believe the crap in that rag. In Leviticus "God", "Jehovah", "Yhwh" or whoever the fuck he is..."I am The Lord"... is angry that someone is worshiping another god. Meloch is his name if I remember correctly. How are we to believe there is only one god when even the bible speaks of others?
Whatever God's 'divine plan' is, that's fine. But a few things confuse me:
1. (assuming that there is a plan) Why is it so complicated?
2. Why the hell would God need a plan? If he is all powerful, knowing, and omnicient, then would he be able to overcome any obsctacle without having to build up against it?
If you created tiny creatures in a bowl, would you fix all of their problems for them? Or would you let them learn how to deal with them and fix them on their own? God uses physics to operate his universe. God uses evolution to sculpt his creatures. How sad he must be that his children no longer believe in him simply because they discovered his tools. Answer this: If the faster, stronger lion gets food and mates, why have lions been about the same size and speed for millions of years?
@Hovers82 guess you need to give the bible another read,it says your deeds are nothing to god,in fact it compares deeds to a filthy rag (Isa 64:4-9) if all you had to do was be a good person then lots of people would get into this imaginary heaven.But we both know your book has a far more immoral plan than that.
@alltiedup217 Do some research. How many people have edited the book. It is no longer gain its authenticity. Even if you ask those who know the book, they cant even answer your questions straight.
@Hovers82 ya i know the bible is full of shit..so is the koran Muslim do the same song and dance about there book that chrisitans do about theres.You ask a question you get thats not what it really means or the ever popular out of context..its all crap.
@alltiedup217 That actually true. Well depends who you are getting your knowledge from. My advise get from someone who really know their stuff, and you can get some answers straight. Like, Why are we are in this world. What is our purpose. Why are we created. Who created us. All those questions will tend to pop up in out mind.
@Hovers82 No one created us there is no evidence what so ever that anything was "created" If you're asking who created us you have already made up your mine we were created.Why not start with what evidence is there for a creator.
Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
@hempartist420 Many new questions in regard to almost every principle mentioned by Darwin have arisen. For example, it is asked whether the appearance of a new organ or for that matter any other organic change, always results from the use of that organ and the attempt to adapt it to one's environment or it may be due to mutation or any other cause?
@hempartist420 Natural selection is or is not like artificial selection which leads the existing generation to evolution?
The acquired qualities are hereditable as a principle or genetic investigations have rejected this theory?
The organic changes, whatever may be their cause, are always aimed at survival and evolution or sometimes they may be due to the inconsistency with the environmental conditions and may culminate in death and extinction?
@hempartist420 What realistic scientist, sincerely given to seeking the truth could claim today that while a kidney transplant is the result of centuries of continuous scientific research and experimentation, the structure of the kidney itself reveals no trace of a creative intelligence and will, being the product of mere nature—nature which has no more knowledge or awareness than a kindergarten pupil?
@hempartist420 Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
@hempartist420 Then how can you delude yourself and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@revelations171 Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
(4) So, because of that decision (following Satan instead of God) we are cursed. we are cursed because Satan has free rain to corrupt the minds of men, to unleash the power of nature, and destroy us: the image of God, with whom he is utterly disgusted. If this makes sense, or if you still don't understand please reply.
(3) Her eyes were opened and she now knew of good and evil. She was pleased and so she offered some to Adam and he ate as well. Then seeing that they were naked Clothed themselves. (does any other "Animal" cloth themselves? No because they have no knowledge of good and evil). So in the end they rebelled against God by disobeying Him and eating of the fruit. So god says fine, ok with your decision, but if you leave my house and follow your own ways, then you can't have my benefits.
(2)So right know Adam and Eve don't even know about "Good" and "Evil". But if they eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil than they actually have a choice of doing Evil ( listening to and following the deceiver: Satan) or doing good (listening to or following the honest God). So God knowing this tells them to NEVER eat of the fruit of the tree. However, one day Eve, being deceived by Satan telling her that it won't hurt her to eat of the fruit, finally eat's of the fruit. (continued^)
(1)I THINK I KNOW WHY GOD LETS ALL OF THESE BAD THINGS HAPPEN: First off it's actually in the first book of the Bible(Genesis). Don't take my word it, read Genesis. God gave man a choice to follow him or to take and eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God is the father of good, Satan on the other hand is the father of Evil. (Satan rebelled against God and was cast out and know hates God. And when I say hates I MEAN ABSOLUTELY HATES fyi) (Continued on post above)
Ok, let's say that like you think god doesn't exist, so we are only NATURE, SCIENCE AND US? SO, ALL THOSE DISASTERS AND EVIL THINGS THAT YOU ASK WHY GOD LET IT HAPPENS, GUESS WHAT? They will still continue without god, so, think on which you will now declare as guilty: The nature itselft? The science of some scientist? Or all the humanity (us)? Guess what; yes WE ALL US ARE THE GUILTY, So don't believe in God, ok, but then don't blame what doesnt exist for you! BLAME YOURSELF. God bless you!
Until someone shows me otherwise, I have NO choice but to believe that the great Humpty Dumpty created everything in this world. He created me, my family, the trees, the air, the water, and the shrimp that he hates so much.
I simply cannot accept that there is no sound scientific answer to how everything got here. I must fill that void in my understanding with the loving presence of HD. If I don't accept HD, I'll surely burn in his eternal fiery hell.
Religion is not healthy, that is probably obvious and should be clear to everyone at some point. However, when it come to God it's not that easy... All I can say is this, until someone on this planet shows me how they personally made everything I have no choice but to believe something else did. That is God/nature/energy/source. I have a consciousness I didn't create and there isn't a fancy video presentation with lavish music that is going to change that FACT.
I have no choice but to believe something else did.
That something is God
God is not going to take away you choice to accept Him or reject him based on the evidence already provided. Jesus stands at the door and knocks .You must have faith to let Him in as He will not bust down the door.
at least you understand the is a creator. and are not a fool in that regard
Interesting video, perhaps from the perspective of a young human starting out on a journey of discovery. I find it also interesting that most atheist videos, and the comments that go with them, are just so much preaching to the choir. To all the nodding "atheists" watching this video, I propose that a few of you may one day actually have an epiphany and realise that your very criteria for evidence was all wrong. The real journey begins on the other side of epiphany.
@SuperTruthlover It's not that it doesn't suit our world view, it doesn't suit our moral fiber. We don't admire hypocrisy especially when it comes from a so called God. We try our best to be helpful but unfortunately atheists can't help you be satisfied with your own desire for us to be what you define as clear sighted and broad minded. I cant see how atheists can be narrow minded as it would be ignorant to focus our attention to one book, and only one book. For you, ignorantia beatitudo.
Are you talking about the bible as if it is one book.
Ignorant soul that you have become.
The bible is a collection of 66 books writen by 40 authors over a 1,600 year period.
You right depending on one book gives a person a narrow view.
If I only read the book of Nahum I would not understand about the grace of God .
If I only read Proverbs I would learn about wisdom but would be better off if I also read the Gospel. The book of Job has a certain message as well. hypocrisy?
@SuperTruthlover I don't care if it's the national library compiled into one text, the bible is still a book even though it is a compilation of many books. Any fool with a small amount of historical knowledge would know how the bible was put together anyway even though that fool would quickly renounce his religion upon such knowledge.
By the way, thanks for using your condescending nature to make your points. I sometimes feel like I was born yesterday and it makes me feel so much younger.
One man writes a book call Job. This book was written about a particular event in Job's life in regards to his relationship with God. Over the next 1200 years the books were written about the kings of israel and Judah, a woman nane Ruth, a Queen named Esther,a book about the buliding of the temple etc. Now these seperate books were written by different men living in different times. for 300 years no books were written. Then 27 more books were written by different men. Get it?
I always get a kick out of Christians telling me exactly what an atheist thinks and feels. I got news for you SuperTruthlover. If you even had the slightest clue about what goes on inside the mind of an atheist, you'd be an atheist, too.
the world would give up faith in God if only they were as clever as athiest and yet the vast majority of people in mental homes and killing themselfs are.... you guess it Atheists. Silly chaps what
@SuperTruthlover That sounds really spooky but I still see no evidence for your bald assertion that the "majority" of suicides and mental patients are atheists. Good luck managing your delusion.
@FreeThoughtCrime There is an article posted in The American Journal of Phychiatry called "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt" by Kanita Dervic et. al. who did find that those who have religious affiliation are less likely to commit suicide. However, SuperTruthlover's statement that the majority are non-believers is an exaggeration of the findings at best. The correct way to voice the findings is to say that religious persons are less likely to commit suicide than non.
@lhvinny Your study talks about suicide rates for those who are already depressed. It says nothing about suicides in general. So yes, I will agree with you that a depressed religious person is less likely to commit suicide than a depressed atheist. But that tme nothing about the truth of a religion. And it tells me nothing about the "vast" majority of people in mental homes being atheists. So supertruthlovrer's statement wasn't an exaggeration but an outright lie.
@FreeThoughtCrime Couldn't agree with you more. That's why I said it was an exaggeration at best. I like to try to find where the silly claims come from, that way clarification about what the author actually meant or found can be discussed, which you have done very nicely.
I can't get enough of people citing Hitler's (who was a catholic btw), Mao's, Stalin's acts as a point against atheism.
These dictators MADE A FRICKIN RELIGION FROM THEMSELVES and their aryan superiority ideas and things like that.
Atheism is not a religion. It's the lack of religion. It has no teachings, it says nothing, it asks you nothing. If an atheist does something against society it's not because our holy books or spiritual leaders ask us to.
Only a dumb ass that has NEVER read about the life of Hitler would call him a Catholic. Yes he had water spinkled on his head as a baby but that does not make him a believer. Come on
Oh how cute is that! Hitler often spoke about his belief of the aryan christ, he used religion to control the masses, in public he regarded christianity as the moral basis of Germany, he used christian propaganda in the army, he used the jews' "sin" of killing jesus to incite hatred against the jews. I could go on for pages. Now, have you really read mein kampf or anything reliable about hitler's life? No, you didn't.
No informed atheist would think that hitler was the holy man of god, but many of his followers killed innocent people and fought on the battlefield thinking that god is on their side, so here we are in nazi germany, invoking god and our belief in god to justify terrible things.
@Murdulo - There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else.
@SixthWatcher I invite you to name ONE single piece of evidence for the case of god. If you can't do that, we might as well say god is just an imaginary friend.
@Murdulo - Your request is typical of 2-dimensional thinkers, and lacks originality. You must first learn how ask questions better. There is no mere word yet which would appear as evidence to you. The very framing of your "invitation" demonstrates your primitive mentality and breathtaking dearth of insight. The evidence is abundant, but you are not evolved enough to perceive it.
@SixthWatcher So you can't name evidence because I'm not "evolved" enough? Suuuure dude, everyone's with you. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So far, you've only demonstrated extraordinary stubborness to admit you don't have a point.
The "everyone" you talk about are those who are your intellectual equals, such as skateboarders and basement videogame players. It quite common for arrogant fools like you to be over-confident in your primate-level thinking abilities. Any point someone makes to you would be blunted by your unusually thick skull. I should have better results trying to explain the epistemological implications of Kant's pure reason to a turkey vulture.
@tellnet Since your concept of evidence is based solely on the primitive and limited apparatus available to you at this time (what you call technology) there is currently no means by which you can become aware of the abundant evidence, nor will mere words be able to describe that which is well beyond your grasp.
And, of course, because you are from another planet, and are in possession of a supremely higher intelligence, it suffices for you to employ semantics to avoid answering simple questions.
As I said below:
You said:
"There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else."
@tellnet It's now appears that your reading comprehension falls below my earlier estimate. Your comment proved that, and your primitive histrionics demonstrated your thickness of skull and dearth of cerebral substance. Also I never claimed to be from another planet. You are clearly unintelligent, and unable to learn new things, unless it supports your current beliefs. But it changes nothing, and is of even less importance.
Typical response from an indefensible position ...
Try addressing the question - instead of further exacerbating your advertised ignorance.
. I repeat:
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
(And... my statement that "you are from another planet" is not the same as YOU "claiming" that "you are from another planet" - geee, ain't y'all ever so dumb - well, I suppose your extra-terrestrial; position suffices as an excuse)
@Murdulo LOOK IN THE MIRROR OR OPEN YOUR EYES THERe IS THE EVIDENCE OF GOD >> SHOW ME THE MISSING LINK?? OH DONT HAVE IT BECAUSE IT IS MADE UP BY MAN TO TAKE THE FOCUS OFF GOD>
"There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else."
"The only argument they have is spouting religious rhetoric. To them that IS evidence."
...Actually, their main "evidence" comes in the form of wishful thinking. I find this is especially true with the creationists; if you check out any of the "arguments" they use, that is all they are. It's stuff like, "What seems more likely, that a loving and perfect creator molded you in his glorious image or that your grandma fucked a dirty shit-eating monkey?"
@jimbrown257.Which only goes to show how much shit they don't know they are talking. And how much knowledge they lack about evolution. Funny how most atheists know more about God and the bible than the religious know about the natural world. Cheers jimbrown
Lol, that reminds me of an encounter I had just a few days ago. I was talking, on a message board, with some fundie who was saying that the Bible is true and science has proven evolution to be false. I got to asking him some things about the Bible, it turned out that, in addition to knowing nothing of science, he didn't even know anything about the Bible which he was saying was 100% accurate. I had to tell him about what was in his silly book because he didn't know.
@jimbrown257 An all too familiar scenario. What I find totally amusing is when the fundies imagine that their scientists and then they try to find as many Christians scientists as they can to back up their "theories" I have yet to see one make any sort of solid theory about anything. They think they can intrude upon the scientific world. But the moment Science discredits them and tries the same, then they run to the courtroom crying foul.
That reminds me of the most recent "discovery" of Noah's Ark a few months ago (even the Christian Science Monitor said people who believed it were gullible and blinded by religion). Anyways, the YECs were claiming that it was carbon dated to the right time but those same YECs say that carbon dating is worthless when it shows dates they don't like. The ironically named TruthfulChristian who always spams Thunderf00t's channel was spamming all the science channels about it.
@jimbrown257 Hey I know TruthfulChristian! That guy/girl is brain-f@k1n9-washed! I talked to that person about noahs ark as well and basically argued that the ark, even though it looks like a boat profile, has crap all artifacts around it and most are dubious in authenticity. This so called TruthfulChristian needs historical evidence now to support his/her God by validating the bible's historic events. Pathetic!
Ironically some of the OT's events have been proven to be made up!
Ironically some of the OT's events have been proven to be made up!
You atheist always make these stupid statement and never back them up.
Please show me even one event that has been proved made up
Can't do it. I thought not.
Oh and saying thay it is unlikely to have occured without the power of God proves nothing. If you mean that fire has been proven to not rain on people you don't understand what proof really means.Your pathetic
Naoh's ark was described in the book of Genisis would be hard to prove and impossible to prove nonexistence. Next item.
Funny to me that a person could take the 66 books in the bible written by 40 authors over a 1,600 year period which has ben proven time and time again to be historicly accurate and still risk their soul to death because they find it hard to believe a man could build a large ship.
Men can do things all the time that is hard to imagine. The seven wonders for ex.
@SuperTruthlover "Next item"? Sorry, we're not moving on. Noah, 600 year old man sources polar bears and penguins for the trip? People working with endangered species need about 100 breeding pairs to have enough genetic diversity to keep a species going. The gene mapping of the animal species DOES NOT corroborate their spreading from Mount Ararat 4,000 years ago. The rock strata DOES NOT contain a dense ring of sudden deceased animal life as the flood story would dictate. cont......
Don't know then perhaps you also don't know HOW animals were perserve in the ark.
Was it all the animal or all the animals they would perish?
You imagine a God who created the universe would be unable to perserve particular animals and 8 people for a few months. I see you think the book of Genesis is false because it include an event that is impossible without the power of God. You can't prove this of Course since God certainly can do it.
@SuperTruthlover Why didn't he simply poof all the animals back? Why the floating zoo rescue scheme? Now if you want to invoke the immature argument that "god can do anything" then sure, any kind of bullshit is potentially possible. Same, of course, applies to Zeus. I could say that Zeus is the REAL god and the only reason you believe Yahweh is Hades has tricked you from believing Zeus. You see, without proof, one can claim any kind of horseshit.
You have no proof that even one event recorded in the bible did not happen exactly as it was stated in the bible. Since the bible has been proven to be historicly accurate in regards to people and place over a 1,600 year period you my friend are the north bound end of a south bound mule. LOL
@SuperTruthlover ...cont...there's the tiny problem of Ancient China, a civilization that kept detailed records of its civilization from the time before, during, and after the flood that supposedly wiped out all life on earth. There's the illogic of this stupid 'rescue plan' from a god who once just snapped his fingers and had all the animals appear. Why not just do that again. And there's the plan's failure...it was supposed to leave only good people behind to repopulate....cont....
@SuperTruthlover Since mankind has a habit of building next to water, it's no big surprise that every culture would have a flood story. Besides, that actually defeats your argument. If the entire populace of the world was wiped out in the flood, there wouldn't be survivors to write these varying accounts.
By the same token, every culture has creation myths. Many are older than yours and contradict yours. What proof do you have that the great Raven of native culture isn't our creator?
God does not want hide from men how He created the universe and life here God spoke to man and revealed Himself long below Moses wrote the first five books of the OT and the storys were well know by God's people.
Since Adam was the first man and Noah and his family the only living family how could there be any culture existing at a earlier time. Unless you are referring to Culture before the flood. Noah and his family know what happen and pass this infomation on to later culture of course.
@SuperTruthlover Ha ha, Noah and his family faithfully recorded everything that happened in Ancient China so that the records could be passed on without missing a beat?? Are you actually insane? You have this god shit so clogging your brain you'll invent absolutely anything to keep the myth up.
Noah must have been pretty fucking busy post-deluge. Perhaps he recopied the Ancient Chinese archives on his long trip to deliver kangaroos back to Australia.
@SuperTruthlover ...and a small nitpick: I never mentioned anything about dino poop, so if you can't even get straight who-said-what, really, how much of anything else you say is accurate?
It's funny how in Genesis God creates mammals and birds at the beginning and yet fossilised dinosaur dung show no bones or other evidence of current mammals and birds. There is no evidence that dino's coexisted with todays mammals and birds.
LOLdisneyland wrote this and I just love to make fun of the dino poop theory.
What is your opinion of LOLdisneyland's arguement about dino poop?
@SuperTruthlover ...basically, the deluge DID NOT end man's wickedness, so god (who's perfect) chose to solve a problem with a method that DIDN'T WORK! Lastly, the story is a copy from the older story the "Epic of Gilgamesh". Christianity is great at borrowing preexisting myth.
So, no, based on all the above, I'll happily declare this ridiculous story bullshit, and the accompanying "threat" to my eternal soul (whatever THAT is) bullshit too!
Man had become so wicked there was nothing God could do except start again with one family that had faith in God and refused to join in the evil around them.
Nothing happened in history before the flood that is recorded anywhere except the books of the bible. How do you KNOW what story was copied? You cannot not prove any of you arguenments which is funny since atheists are always shouting where is the PROOF for God. I guess there is a double standard for proof with atheists.
@SuperTruthlover Sorry. But you've been thoroughly trounced on this one. Why didn't god's plan to eliminate wickedness work? What's that? No answer? Of course.
Ancient China has records that pre-date the Bible, as do many other cultures. You are a fountain of ignorance.
Let's see: epic of Gilgamesh was a story around long before the Buybull in the same general region of the country.
God's plan worked perfectly as all His plan do in the end.
All those that wanted to follow God took a boat ride and all the wicked people decided they rather swim. They choose poorly. LOL
Over time the world was populated once again. Of course since God always gives men free will many decided to turn from God and do that which was against God plan for men.God sent prophet and did many miricles so that they would know about God and His plan for His children. God's last word was Jesus
@SuperTruthlover Let's see...God decided to eliminate wickedness by pressing "reset" on planet earth, but then once the (incest-laden) repopulation of the planet was going on, he decided to give back free will, the very thing that made him angry enough in the first place to destroy the planet. Huh? So the situation both before and after the flood was the same, therefore he fixed nothing.
W. Ian Thomas, expresses the dichotomy of derivation from either God or Satan so succinctly
As godliness is the direct and exclusive consequence of God’s activity, and God’s capacity to reproduce Himself in you, so all ungodliness is the direct and exclusive consequence of Satan’s activity, and of his capacity to reproduce the devil in you! …For iniquity is no more the consequence of your capacity to imitate the devil, than godliness is the consequence of your capacity to imitate God!
@SuperTruthlover Event of Genesis - Fossil Records disprove it..
It's funny how in Genesis God creates mammals and birds at the beginning and yet fossilised dinosaur dung show no bones or other evidence of current mammals and birds. There is no evidence that dino's coexisted with todays mammals and birds.
Genesis happened after the collapse of the dominant dinosaur age? I can accept that. The bible doesn't make it clear as to what beginning it was. Genesis could be our beginning.
@SuperTruthlover "Can you prove the universe was created in any other way then stated in the bible?"
How about you first decide WHICH VERSION of the creation account in the Bible you're talking about, because Genesis chapter one has things appearing in a different order than Genesis chapter 2.
@SuperTruthlover "Can you prove God did not created the universe or prove the universe was created in any other way then stated in the bible?"
Yup. Species order in the fossilized rock strata is entirely inconsistant with the Genesis account of creation. In short, fossils always go from more primitve creatures in the oldest rock to most advanced in the newest rock. If Genesis was true, all animals started at the same time and the fossil strata should be mixed. It isn't.
@Hovers82 well the word god is fairly new to humanity. But if by god you mean creator. Then yeah, i do believe we did not evolve from apes. Instead, we're a mix of primates, and supreme beings. Did you know the church makes millions of untaxed money each year? Apparently alot of people dont. I respect your viewpoint though. Would you consider god and extra dimensional beings to be the same thing? Get back at me!
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@id252473 God and extra dimensional beings can never be the same. The Creator and the Creations is not the same. The Creator needs no one or nothing from any of the creations. Than that is truly the Most powerful the Most Mighty then that what we can call GOD. true?
Hovers82 4 days ago
@Hovers82 haha thats what i said! Apparently the all powerful being just has a soft spot for money. And apparently he wants us to gather every sunday to compare clothing as well. I do believe in a creator, there is plenty of proof for that.
id252473 1 month ago
@id252473 Truly the God that you apprehend is different that the One i worship. The God that i worship is all powerful and does not need anything from His creation. If we worship him or not worship him, he still gives us all that we want. He is truly The Merciful. The God that i worship creates everything in this world and everything beyond this earth.
Hovers82 1 month ago
Ok, love the video, great job.
id252473 1 month ago
Hovers82@ God apparently needs our praise,admiration,and MONEY!Why does he also need money???
flpackman1 1 month ago
@flpackman1 God is free of needs ! He does not need anything from us. It is US that needs everything from God. If you are worshiping some deity which needs money, truly that is not a God!
Hovers82 1 month ago
God is All Powerful All Mighty !
Is it you that controls your heartbeat? Who controls your heartbeat while you are asleep?
If God wills, he can stop your heartbeat anytime !
Worship only God !
Hovers82 1 month ago
@Hovers82 My medulla oblongata controls my heartbeat... And your medulla oblongata controls yours. Not some unseen uninterested fantasy being.
If god did exist... Which one is he? I found a list of over 2600 of these mythical deities. And I am confused on which one I am supposed to kowtow to. My simple brain can't absorb the necessary information to make an educated decision on who to follow, that I have chosen to not believe in ANY of them.
cdickenson64 1 month ago
@cdickenson64 You should choose the One who created your medulla oblongata :)
He do exist and He does not need anything from of this creation.
There is only One God. Believe me, There is no other gods. There is only One True God, the One who create this universe, the One who create us all humans, the One who created us and guides us to the correct path which He prefers.
Surely, the hearafter exist, and we will all be judge by Him for what we have done while we are on earth !
Hovers82 1 month ago
@Hovers82 NOT!!!
Hey, It's all or nothing. If you choose to believe in one you HAVE to believe in ALL the others, if not you're an Atheist too.
cdickenson64 1 month ago
@cdickenson64 We only have to believe in ONE. In fact that is only one God. And there is a final revelation revealed to us.
Hovers82 4 days ago
@Hovers82 Uh.... No. No gods... No Afterlife... No Heaven.... No Hell... No more lies.
cdickenson64 3 days ago
@cdickenson64 What if you are wrong and im am right?
Hovers82 3 days ago
@Hovers82 We'll never know.... And I am not wasting my time on Pascal's wager either. I live clean with better than christian morals, so I am good... If you are right. I just cannot believe.
cdickenson64 3 days ago
@cdickenson64 Will good news is im not following the morals which u mentioned :)
The moral i belive in is that all deeds that we do will be rewarded, either here or in the hereafter.
Dont take any risk dude, if there is a afterlife and im perfectly 100% sure there is a life after death, you will be in great lost
Hovers82 2 days ago
@Hovers82 You say "Dont take any risk dude, if there is a afterlife" That is exactly pascals wager. You say too "good news is im not following the morals which u mentioned :)" Why not? If my morals are better than the christian moral of sin all week long and lie to your "god" and say your sorry, while nursing a monstrous hangover, and listening to your religious leader apologize once again for molesting the little boys of the congregation. Okay I agree, I do not want your morals.
cdickenson64 1 day ago
@Hovers82 If there is a heaven and hell, I would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven to a narcissistic, lying shut in.
But since this god nor any other exist... Including the lord of the dark-side, Satan, I will be happy to end my life as a worm buffet or just to flame out in the crematorium.
cdickenson64 1 day ago
@cdickenson64 God is all Merciful and Forgiving. Believe that there is no other gods or lords or any other being worthy of worship, and i repeat, there is NO other creatures or supernatural powers beings. There is only One God. The True the Mighty. He does not need anything from anyone. Worship him alone and you will get all the happiness in this world and in the afterlife..
Hovers82 1 day ago
@Hovers82 And of which god do you speak? There are many gods and even the bible says that, if you believe the crap in that rag. In Leviticus "God", "Jehovah", "Yhwh" or whoever the fuck he is..."I am The Lord"... is angry that someone is worshiping another god. Meloch is his name if I remember correctly. How are we to believe there is only one god when even the bible speaks of others?
cdickenson64 1 day ago
@Hovers82 I do thank you for your sermon though.
cdickenson64 1 day ago
@cdickenson64 Feel free to continue this conversation. :) Im here as long as God wills
Hovers82 1 day ago
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@Hovers82 "God is All Powerful All Mighty!" - Prove it.
"Is it you that controls your heartbeat? Who controls your heartbeat while you are asleep?" - Sinus node, atrioventricular node, Purkinje fibers.
"If God wills, he can stop your heartbeat anytime!" - Prove it.
"Worship only God!" - Why?
TheKainMan 1 month ago
great job, i had to add this to my favorites!!!!
THANKS : )
yourallbrainwashed 1 month ago
Whatever God's 'divine plan' is, that's fine. But a few things confuse me:
1. (assuming that there is a plan) Why is it so complicated?
2. Why the hell would God need a plan? If he is all powerful, knowing, and omnicient, then would he be able to overcome any obsctacle without having to build up against it?
3. What is this plan supposed to accomplish?
pumishumi 2 months ago
@pumishumi Hope i can answer to you.
1.It is complicated because we lack of understanding
2. The plan itself shows how powerful God is. Nothing can escape his knowledge and he the most powerful knows everything.
3. This plan shows how compasionate and merciful God is. He only judge us for what we do not for what he has written for us.
Hovers82 4 days ago
If you created tiny creatures in a bowl, would you fix all of their problems for them? Or would you let them learn how to deal with them and fix them on their own? God uses physics to operate his universe. God uses evolution to sculpt his creatures. How sad he must be that his children no longer believe in him simply because they discovered his tools. Answer this: If the faster, stronger lion gets food and mates, why have lions been about the same size and speed for millions of years?
GladiatorGT 2 months ago
thought this was a christain vid but even before it started i saw you could comment and the rating were not disabled. good vid
alltiedup217 3 months ago
@alltiedup217 God has it ways to guide us to the straight path.
Hovers82 4 days ago
@Hovers82 so much for free will
alltiedup217 4 days ago
@alltiedup217 We will be judge by the actions of our deeds. What God has planned is unknown to us. So we must work hard enough to get what we want.
Hovers82 4 days ago
@Hovers82 guess you need to give the bible another read,it says your deeds are nothing to god,in fact it compares deeds to a filthy rag (Isa 64:4-9) if all you had to do was be a good person then lots of people would get into this imaginary heaven.But we both know your book has a far more immoral plan than that.
alltiedup217 4 days ago
@alltiedup217 :) the bible is not authentic
Hovers82 2 days ago
@Hovers82 no kidding
alltiedup217 2 days ago
@alltiedup217 Do some research. How many people have edited the book. It is no longer gain its authenticity. Even if you ask those who know the book, they cant even answer your questions straight.
Hovers82 1 day ago
@Hovers82 ya i know the bible is full of shit..so is the koran Muslim do the same song and dance about there book that chrisitans do about theres.You ask a question you get thats not what it really means or the ever popular out of context..its all crap.
alltiedup217 1 day ago
@alltiedup217 That actually true. Well depends who you are getting your knowledge from. My advise get from someone who really know their stuff, and you can get some answers straight. Like, Why are we are in this world. What is our purpose. Why are we created. Who created us. All those questions will tend to pop up in out mind.
Hovers82 1 day ago
@Hovers82 No one created us there is no evidence what so ever that anything was "created" If you're asking who created us you have already made up your mine we were created.Why not start with what evidence is there for a creator.
alltiedup217 1 day ago
@hempartist420 Is it at all feasible to regard all the geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
1tabligh 3 months ago
Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
1tabligh 3 months ago
@hempartist420 Many new questions in regard to almost every principle mentioned by Darwin have arisen. For example, it is asked whether the appearance of a new organ or for that matter any other organic change, always results from the use of that organ and the attempt to adapt it to one's environment or it may be due to mutation or any other cause?
1tabligh 3 months ago
@hempartist420 Natural selection is or is not like artificial selection which leads the existing generation to evolution?
The acquired qualities are hereditable as a principle or genetic investigations have rejected this theory?
The organic changes, whatever may be their cause, are always aimed at survival and evolution or sometimes they may be due to the inconsistency with the environmental conditions and may culminate in death and extinction?
1tabligh 3 months ago
@hempartist420 What realistic scientist, sincerely given to seeking the truth could claim today that while a kidney transplant is the result of centuries of continuous scientific research and experimentation, the structure of the kidney itself reveals no trace of a creative intelligence and will, being the product of mere nature—nature which has no more knowledge or awareness than a kindergarten pupil?
1tabligh 3 months ago
@hempartist420 Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
1tabligh 3 months ago
@hempartist420 Then how can you delude yourself and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 3 months ago
the "god" of this present world is satan,the great deceiver & his ''false religions" - he will be destroyed !
mustangersalie 5 months ago
Gawd I fucking *hate* religion!!!
hznfrst 6 months ago
Let's see, if you agreed God's only proof was over 2,000years ago, then THAT WAS PROOF HE EXISTS. Maybe Watch your language and how you write things.
He existed briefly as a human to save us from our sins then to go back to being a Spirit so of course you can't see a spirit.
Let's say God is Jesus. Jesus was ministering unto priests at age 12. He didn't have to be ministered to or taught these teachings, he knew ALREADY.
revelations171 6 months ago
@revelations171 I admire your Imagination my friend.
CortezJanRaymond 6 months ago
@revelations171 No, because my opinion does not become a fact/proof simply because it is my opinion.
wtfzwrong 6 months ago
@revelations171
LOL, whooosh as the point went over your head. You complete moron.
TheodorePike 4 months ago
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revelations171 4 months ago
@revelations171 Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
1tabligh 4 months ago
Goddamn that was good.
123sambrose 6 months ago
Hmmms.. Convinced as you are.. How are you so absolutely sure that the bible is established fact?
remoraid7 6 months ago
(4) So, because of that decision (following Satan instead of God) we are cursed. we are cursed because Satan has free rain to corrupt the minds of men, to unleash the power of nature, and destroy us: the image of God, with whom he is utterly disgusted. If this makes sense, or if you still don't understand please reply.
Diomedsspear 7 months ago
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Uberlaser 6 months ago
(3) Her eyes were opened and she now knew of good and evil. She was pleased and so she offered some to Adam and he ate as well. Then seeing that they were naked Clothed themselves. (does any other "Animal" cloth themselves? No because they have no knowledge of good and evil). So in the end they rebelled against God by disobeying Him and eating of the fruit. So god says fine, ok with your decision, but if you leave my house and follow your own ways, then you can't have my benefits.
Diomedsspear 7 months ago
(2)So right know Adam and Eve don't even know about "Good" and "Evil". But if they eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil than they actually have a choice of doing Evil ( listening to and following the deceiver: Satan) or doing good (listening to or following the honest God). So God knowing this tells them to NEVER eat of the fruit of the tree. However, one day Eve, being deceived by Satan telling her that it won't hurt her to eat of the fruit, finally eat's of the fruit. (continued^)
Diomedsspear 7 months ago
(1)I THINK I KNOW WHY GOD LETS ALL OF THESE BAD THINGS HAPPEN: First off it's actually in the first book of the Bible(Genesis). Don't take my word it, read Genesis. God gave man a choice to follow him or to take and eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God is the father of good, Satan on the other hand is the father of Evil. (Satan rebelled against God and was cast out and know hates God. And when I say hates I MEAN ABSOLUTELY HATES fyi) (Continued on post above)
Diomedsspear 7 months ago
Ok, let's say that like you think god doesn't exist, so we are only NATURE, SCIENCE AND US? SO, ALL THOSE DISASTERS AND EVIL THINGS THAT YOU ASK WHY GOD LET IT HAPPENS, GUESS WHAT? They will still continue without god, so, think on which you will now declare as guilty: The nature itselft? The science of some scientist? Or all the humanity (us)? Guess what; yes WE ALL US ARE THE GUILTY, So don't believe in God, ok, but then don't blame what doesnt exist for you! BLAME YOURSELF. God bless you!
josiqvideos09 7 months ago
I'm Deist not an atheist
and I agree to this film...
ronster794 8 months ago
Until someone shows me otherwise, I have NO choice but to believe that the great Humpty Dumpty created everything in this world. He created me, my family, the trees, the air, the water, and the shrimp that he hates so much.
I simply cannot accept that there is no sound scientific answer to how everything got here. I must fill that void in my understanding with the loving presence of HD. If I don't accept HD, I'll surely burn in his eternal fiery hell.
But I can't forget that he loves me!
Buhzie15 8 months ago
@Buhzie15 Great God Almighty sat on a wall
Great God Almighty had a long fall
All the crazy christians
And all the mad muslims
Couldn't put god together again.
Strangerinasland 7 months ago
Write such things also about other religions ! Scared to expose ? Cos christians are tolerant and soft targets?
mreudeco 8 months ago
Religion is not healthy, that is probably obvious and should be clear to everyone at some point. However, when it come to God it's not that easy... All I can say is this, until someone on this planet shows me how they personally made everything I have no choice but to believe something else did. That is God/nature/energy/source. I have a consciousness I didn't create and there isn't a fancy video presentation with lavish music that is going to change that FACT.
Raziyahu 8 months ago
I have no choice but to believe something else did.
That something is God
God is not going to take away you choice to accept Him or reject him based on the evidence already provided. Jesus stands at the door and knocks .You must have faith to let Him in as He will not bust down the door.
at least you understand the is a creator. and are not a fool in that regard
SuperTruthlover 8 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Somebody's knocking
Should I let him in
Ohhh it's the devil but I never dreamed
He'd torture me if I don't belieeeeve
Strangerinasland 7 months ago
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@Strangerinasland
Your sin is what is torturing you and not God
God loves you a wants you to live a life more abundantly
Why do you reject God and love the darkness more than the light?
SuperTruthlover 7 months ago
@Raziyahu Very good so far.
Now you must have faith that I created you.
Strangerinasland 7 months ago
@Strangerinasland Of course and thank you for that but really need to understand why and what the constant suffering is for.
Raziyahu 7 months ago
Anyone know the name of the badass songs?
bdcarlitosway 10 months ago
Hi. This is very well done. Thank God for free thinking. Just a note, before civilization, there was peace and then came greed. Peace.
chuck
chumola9 10 months ago
@Kanakaberaka
Theism is a belief in a god.
A belief in a (any) god is a religious notion.
Describing self as a non-religious theist is insanity.
tellnet 11 months ago
Good videos. They're interesting and fun to watch. Good luck.
metz3962 1 year ago
there are no athiests in on deathbeds
MrNewkingjames 1 year ago
@MrNewkingjames -not true.
Bakersfieldsucks777 1 year ago
@MrNewkingjames Well, not after they're dead. Then you're neither theist or atheist. You're just dead.
MrvlZmb 11 months ago
I find it funny when people try and quote prophecies from a man made book and regard it as "evidence for god".
These people need to go to a anti-cult center to get their brain disease corrected.
stepchangeable 1 year ago
@stepchangeable
when a book is written by a man and he write about the events in the furture it does not always mean he speeaks for God
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover but dumbasses like you still believe it.
stepchangeable 1 year ago
Excellent video. Nietzsche summed it up nicely lol
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
More glorifying the imaginary friend.When are you Christian retards gonna get a life?
philster61 1 year ago
@philster61
It's funny and kind of ironic that someone can be "born again" and still need to get a life.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
Interesting video, perhaps from the perspective of a young human starting out on a journey of discovery. I find it also interesting that most atheist videos, and the comments that go with them, are just so much preaching to the choir. To all the nodding "atheists" watching this video, I propose that a few of you may one day actually have an epiphany and realise that your very criteria for evidence was all wrong. The real journey begins on the other side of epiphany.
I am the watcher...
SixthWatcher 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher
So much evidense of God is revealed to anyone who desires to know the truth Atheist come off and silly fools.
We have all come across narraw minded fools that ignore evidence that does not suit their world veiw.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover It's not that it doesn't suit our world view, it doesn't suit our moral fiber. We don't admire hypocrisy especially when it comes from a so called God. We try our best to be helpful but unfortunately atheists can't help you be satisfied with your own desire for us to be what you define as clear sighted and broad minded. I cant see how atheists can be narrow minded as it would be ignorant to focus our attention to one book, and only one book. For you, ignorantia beatitudo.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
@LOLDISNEYLAND
Are you talking about the bible as if it is one book.
Ignorant soul that you have become.
The bible is a collection of 66 books writen by 40 authors over a 1,600 year period.
You right depending on one book gives a person a narrow view.
If I only read the book of Nahum I would not understand about the grace of God .
If I only read Proverbs I would learn about wisdom but would be better off if I also read the Gospel. The book of Job has a certain message as well. hypocrisy?
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover I don't care if it's the national library compiled into one text, the bible is still a book even though it is a compilation of many books. Any fool with a small amount of historical knowledge would know how the bible was put together anyway even though that fool would quickly renounce his religion upon such knowledge.
By the way, thanks for using your condescending nature to make your points. I sometimes feel like I was born yesterday and it makes me feel so much younger.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
@LOLDISNEYLAND
One man writes a book call Job. This book was written about a particular event in Job's life in regards to his relationship with God. Over the next 1200 years the books were written about the kings of israel and Judah, a woman nane Ruth, a Queen named Esther,a book about the buliding of the temple etc. Now these seperate books were written by different men living in different times. for 300 years no books were written. Then 27 more books were written by different men. Get it?
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
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SixthWatcher 1 year ago
he's just "TESTING" us LOLLLLLLLL
ultraudv 1 year ago
I always get a kick out of Christians telling me exactly what an atheist thinks and feels. I got news for you SuperTruthlover. If you even had the slightest clue about what goes on inside the mind of an atheist, you'd be an atheist, too.
FreeThoughtCrime 1 year ago
@FreeThoughtCrime
another false atheist dogma
the world would give up faith in God if only they were as clever as athiest and yet the vast majority of people in mental homes and killing themselfs are.... you guess it Atheists. Silly chaps what
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover
You just pulled that "majority" out of your ass, didn't you?
FreeThoughtCrime 1 year ago
@FreeThoughtCrime
live in the darkness if you like souless one, but my eyes have been opened to the truth.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover That sounds really spooky but I still see no evidence for your bald assertion that the "majority" of suicides and mental patients are atheists. Good luck managing your delusion.
FreeThoughtCrime 1 year ago
@FreeThoughtCrime There is an article posted in The American Journal of Phychiatry called "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt" by Kanita Dervic et. al. who did find that those who have religious affiliation are less likely to commit suicide. However, SuperTruthlover's statement that the majority are non-believers is an exaggeration of the findings at best. The correct way to voice the findings is to say that religious persons are less likely to commit suicide than non.
lhvinny 1 year ago
@lhvinny Your study talks about suicide rates for those who are already depressed. It says nothing about suicides in general. So yes, I will agree with you that a depressed religious person is less likely to commit suicide than a depressed atheist. But that tme nothing about the truth of a religion. And it tells me nothing about the "vast" majority of people in mental homes being atheists. So supertruthlovrer's statement wasn't an exaggeration but an outright lie.
FreeThoughtCrime 1 year ago
@FreeThoughtCrime Couldn't agree with you more. That's why I said it was an exaggeration at best. I like to try to find where the silly claims come from, that way clarification about what the author actually meant or found can be discussed, which you have done very nicely.
lhvinny 1 year ago
@FreeThoughtCrime
I have know too many atheists sick assholes to want to know what is in their minds.
Jeff Damier etc
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
I can't get enough of people citing Hitler's (who was a catholic btw), Mao's, Stalin's acts as a point against atheism.
These dictators MADE A FRICKIN RELIGION FROM THEMSELVES and their aryan superiority ideas and things like that.
Atheism is not a religion. It's the lack of religion. It has no teachings, it says nothing, it asks you nothing. If an atheist does something against society it's not because our holy books or spiritual leaders ask us to.
Check:
watch?v=LCUYiflkXHc
d3st88 1 year ago
@d3st88
Only a dumb ass that has NEVER read about the life of Hitler would call him a Catholic. Yes he had water spinkled on his head as a baby but that does not make him a believer. Come on
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover
Oh how cute is that! Hitler often spoke about his belief of the aryan christ, he used religion to control the masses, in public he regarded christianity as the moral basis of Germany, he used christian propaganda in the army, he used the jews' "sin" of killing jesus to incite hatred against the jews. I could go on for pages. Now, have you really read mein kampf or anything reliable about hitler's life? No, you didn't.
d3st88 1 year ago
@d3st88
Thats my point religion is the problem not God
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@d3st88
Hitler used religion to promote his goals
Wow that has been done for hundreds of years by many people the had no relationship with God.
Only Atheists think Hitler was a Holy Man of God. Sick
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover
No informed atheist would think that hitler was the holy man of god, but many of his followers killed innocent people and fought on the battlefield thinking that god is on their side, so here we are in nazi germany, invoking god and our belief in god to justify terrible things.
d3st88 1 year ago
@d3st88
Those that murdered people while and thought they were doing God will were sadly misstaken to think the were Folllowers of God.
They were religist and not true beleivers.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover And who are you to say you're not mistaken by interpreting god the way you do, and attributing properties to it?
God is imaginary.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@Murdulo "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is its faithful servant.
We have created a society the honors the servant and has forgotten the gift."
Albert Einstein
How funny to me that it is the atheist that always deny the intuitive mind has value.
Free thinkers my ass LOL And who are you to say you're not mistaken by interpreting god the way you do,
Who am I?
A child of a holy God
A lover of truth
father
Servant of God
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover
Spouting religious poetry isn't an argument.
I'm still waiting for a good argument in favour of the god of the bible.
So far, all conclusions draw to the fact that god is imaginary.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@Murdulo: It should be abundantly obvious that you are certainly in no position to draw any conclusions about God.
SixthWatcher 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher Same goes for christians. Only evidence is on my side.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@Murdulo - There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else.
SixthWatcher 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher I invite you to name ONE single piece of evidence for the case of god. If you can't do that, we might as well say god is just an imaginary friend.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@Murdulo - Your request is typical of 2-dimensional thinkers, and lacks originality. You must first learn how ask questions better. There is no mere word yet which would appear as evidence to you. The very framing of your "invitation" demonstrates your primitive mentality and breathtaking dearth of insight. The evidence is abundant, but you are not evolved enough to perceive it.
SixthWatcher 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher So you can't name evidence because I'm not "evolved" enough? Suuuure dude, everyone's with you. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So far, you've only demonstrated extraordinary stubborness to admit you don't have a point.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@Murdulo -
The "everyone" you talk about are those who are your intellectual equals, such as skateboarders and basement videogame players. It quite common for arrogant fools like you to be over-confident in your primate-level thinking abilities. Any point someone makes to you would be blunted by your unusually thick skull. I should have better results trying to explain the epistemological implications of Kant's pure reason to a turkey vulture.
SixthWatcher 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher Lots of insult, but still no argument, case, or evidence for any of your claims. Enjoy your delusions.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@SixthWatcher
What ABUNDANT evidence ?
What evidence ?
tellnet 1 year ago
@tellnet Since your concept of evidence is based solely on the primitive and limited apparatus available to you at this time (what you call technology) there is currently no means by which you can become aware of the abundant evidence, nor will mere words be able to describe that which is well beyond your grasp.
SixthWatcher 8 months ago
@SixthWatcher
And, of course, because you are from another planet, and are in possession of a supremely higher intelligence, it suffices for you to employ semantics to avoid answering simple questions.
As I said below:
You said:
"There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else."
Now that is a gem - from a theist.
Ha ha
... And I repeat:
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
tellnet 8 months ago
@tellnet It's now appears that your reading comprehension falls below my earlier estimate. Your comment proved that, and your primitive histrionics demonstrated your thickness of skull and dearth of cerebral substance. Also I never claimed to be from another planet. You are clearly unintelligent, and unable to learn new things, unless it supports your current beliefs. But it changes nothing, and is of even less importance.
SixthWatcher 8 months ago
@SixthWatcher
There you go again ...
Typical response from an indefensible position ...
Try addressing the question - instead of further exacerbating your advertised ignorance.
. I repeat:
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
(And... my statement that "you are from another planet" is not the same as YOU "claiming" that "you are from another planet" - geee, ain't y'all ever so dumb - well, I suppose your extra-terrestrial; position suffices as an excuse)
WHAT EVIDENCE ??
tellnet 8 months ago
@Murdulo LOOK IN THE MIRROR OR OPEN YOUR EYES THERe IS THE EVIDENCE OF GOD >> SHOW ME THE MISSING LINK?? OH DONT HAVE IT BECAUSE IT IS MADE UP BY MAN TO TAKE THE FOCUS OFF GOD>
inbigfootsbackyard 1 year ago
@inbigfootsbackyard give one piece of evidence. ONE.
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@SixthWatcher
You said:
"There is no evidence "on your side". Like most people, you accept as evidence those things which support your cherished opinions, and reject all else."
Now that is a gem - from a theist.
Ha ha
tellnet 1 year ago
@Murdulo The only argument they have is spouting religious rhetoric. To them that IS evidence.
philster61 1 year ago
@philster61
"The only argument they have is spouting religious rhetoric. To them that IS evidence."
...Actually, their main "evidence" comes in the form of wishful thinking. I find this is especially true with the creationists; if you check out any of the "arguments" they use, that is all they are. It's stuff like, "What seems more likely, that a loving and perfect creator molded you in his glorious image or that your grandma fucked a dirty shit-eating monkey?"
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257.Which only goes to show how much shit they don't know they are talking. And how much knowledge they lack about evolution. Funny how most atheists know more about God and the bible than the religious know about the natural world. Cheers jimbrown
philster61 1 year ago
@philster61
Lol, that reminds me of an encounter I had just a few days ago. I was talking, on a message board, with some fundie who was saying that the Bible is true and science has proven evolution to be false. I got to asking him some things about the Bible, it turned out that, in addition to knowing nothing of science, he didn't even know anything about the Bible which he was saying was 100% accurate. I had to tell him about what was in his silly book because he didn't know.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257 An all too familiar scenario. What I find totally amusing is when the fundies imagine that their scientists and then they try to find as many Christians scientists as they can to back up their "theories" I have yet to see one make any sort of solid theory about anything. They think they can intrude upon the scientific world. But the moment Science discredits them and tries the same, then they run to the courtroom crying foul.
philster61 1 year ago
@philster61
That reminds me of the most recent "discovery" of Noah's Ark a few months ago (even the Christian Science Monitor said people who believed it were gullible and blinded by religion). Anyways, the YECs were claiming that it was carbon dated to the right time but those same YECs say that carbon dating is worthless when it shows dates they don't like. The ironically named TruthfulChristian who always spams Thunderf00t's channel was spamming all the science channels about it.
Cont...
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257 And these are the same Creationists who say Carbon dating isn't accurate and doesn't work properly.
philster61 1 year ago
@philster61 i dont think they realize there are other ways of carbon dating
apex588 1 year ago
@apex588 Lol. exactly.
philster61 1 year ago
@jimbrown257 Hey I know TruthfulChristian! That guy/girl is brain-f@k1n9-washed! I talked to that person about noahs ark as well and basically argued that the ark, even though it looks like a boat profile, has crap all artifacts around it and most are dubious in authenticity. This so called TruthfulChristian needs historical evidence now to support his/her God by validating the bible's historic events. Pathetic!
Ironically some of the OT's events have been proven to be made up!
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
@LOLDISNEYLAND
Ironically some of the OT's events have been proven to be made up!
You atheist always make these stupid statement and never back them up.
Please show me even one event that has been proved made up
Can't do it. I thought not.
Oh and saying thay it is unlikely to have occured without the power of God proves nothing. If you mean that fire has been proven to not rain on people you don't understand what proof really means.Your pathetic
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Noah's Ark.
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
Naoh's ark was described in the book of Genisis would be hard to prove and impossible to prove nonexistence. Next item.
Funny to me that a person could take the 66 books in the bible written by 40 authors over a 1,600 year period which has ben proven time and time again to be historicly accurate and still risk their soul to death because they find it hard to believe a man could build a large ship.
Men can do things all the time that is hard to imagine. The seven wonders for ex.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover "Next item"? Sorry, we're not moving on. Noah, 600 year old man sources polar bears and penguins for the trip? People working with endangered species need about 100 breeding pairs to have enough genetic diversity to keep a species going. The gene mapping of the animal species DOES NOT corroborate their spreading from Mount Ararat 4,000 years ago. The rock strata DOES NOT contain a dense ring of sudden deceased animal life as the flood story would dictate. cont......
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
Who made the big bang happen?
Don't know then perhaps you also don't know HOW animals were perserve in the ark.
Was it all the animal or all the animals they would perish?
You imagine a God who created the universe would be unable to perserve particular animals and 8 people for a few months. I see you think the book of Genesis is false because it include an event that is impossible without the power of God. You can't prove this of Course since God certainly can do it.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Why didn't he simply poof all the animals back? Why the floating zoo rescue scheme? Now if you want to invoke the immature argument that "god can do anything" then sure, any kind of bullshit is potentially possible. Same, of course, applies to Zeus. I could say that Zeus is the REAL god and the only reason you believe Yahweh is Hades has tricked you from believing Zeus. You see, without proof, one can claim any kind of horseshit.
You have no proof, so I don't believe.
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
Ahh now you make my point!
You have no proof that even one event recorded in the bible did not happen exactly as it was stated in the bible. Since the bible has been proven to be historicly accurate in regards to people and place over a 1,600 year period you my friend are the north bound end of a south bound mule. LOL
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover ...cont...there's the tiny problem of Ancient China, a civilization that kept detailed records of its civilization from the time before, during, and after the flood that supposedly wiped out all life on earth. There's the illogic of this stupid 'rescue plan' from a god who once just snapped his fingers and had all the animals appear. Why not just do that again. And there's the plan's failure...it was supposed to leave only good people behind to repopulate....cont....
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
Did you know that almost every culture has a flood story in its history?
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Since mankind has a habit of building next to water, it's no big surprise that every culture would have a flood story. Besides, that actually defeats your argument. If the entire populace of the world was wiped out in the flood, there wouldn't be survivors to write these varying accounts.
By the same token, every culture has creation myths. Many are older than yours and contradict yours. What proof do you have that the great Raven of native culture isn't our creator?
uccomic 1 year ago
God does not want hide from men how He created the universe and life here God spoke to man and revealed Himself long below Moses wrote the first five books of the OT and the storys were well know by God's people.
Since Adam was the first man and Noah and his family the only living family how could there be any culture existing at a earlier time. Unless you are referring to Culture before the flood. Noah and his family know what happen and pass this infomation on to later culture of course.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Ha ha, Noah and his family faithfully recorded everything that happened in Ancient China so that the records could be passed on without missing a beat?? Are you actually insane? You have this god shit so clogging your brain you'll invent absolutely anything to keep the myth up.
Noah must have been pretty fucking busy post-deluge. Perhaps he recopied the Ancient Chinese archives on his long trip to deliver kangaroos back to Australia.
LOL. BTW....evidence?
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
I agree with you that you have not presented one lick of evidence to support your crazy claims. The Ancient Chinese now .LOL give me a break.
You make up stuff about Dino poo and think fossil strata has the answers you seek.
Silly boy the fossils can't even prove your beloved Evolution so you fail.
Game set match.
Come back when you grow up and please leasve your make believe opinions behind. LOL
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover ...and a small nitpick: I never mentioned anything about dino poop, so if you can't even get straight who-said-what, really, how much of anything else you say is accurate?
uccomic 1 year ago
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@uccomic
It's funny how in Genesis God creates mammals and birds at the beginning and yet fossilised dinosaur dung show no bones or other evidence of current mammals and birds. There is no evidence that dino's coexisted with todays mammals and birds.
LOLdisneyland wrote this and I just love to make fun of the dino poop theory.
What is your opinion of LOLdisneyland's arguement about dino poop?
I am sorry for the fly bye
Peace
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover ...basically, the deluge DID NOT end man's wickedness, so god (who's perfect) chose to solve a problem with a method that DIDN'T WORK! Lastly, the story is a copy from the older story the "Epic of Gilgamesh". Christianity is great at borrowing preexisting myth.
So, no, based on all the above, I'll happily declare this ridiculous story bullshit, and the accompanying "threat" to my eternal soul (whatever THAT is) bullshit too!
Cheers!
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
Man had become so wicked there was nothing God could do except start again with one family that had faith in God and refused to join in the evil around them.
Nothing happened in history before the flood that is recorded anywhere except the books of the bible. How do you KNOW what story was copied? You cannot not prove any of you arguenments which is funny since atheists are always shouting where is the PROOF for God. I guess there is a double standard for proof with atheists.
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Sorry. But you've been thoroughly trounced on this one. Why didn't god's plan to eliminate wickedness work? What's that? No answer? Of course.
Ancient China has records that pre-date the Bible, as do many other cultures. You are a fountain of ignorance.
Let's see: epic of Gilgamesh was a story around long before the Buybull in the same general region of the country.
uccomic 1 year ago
@uccomic
God's plan worked perfectly as all His plan do in the end.
All those that wanted to follow God took a boat ride and all the wicked people decided they rather swim. They choose poorly. LOL
Over time the world was populated once again. Of course since God always gives men free will many decided to turn from God and do that which was against God plan for men.God sent prophet and did many miricles so that they would know about God and His plan for His children. God's last word was Jesus
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Let's see...God decided to eliminate wickedness by pressing "reset" on planet earth, but then once the (incest-laden) repopulation of the planet was going on, he decided to give back free will, the very thing that made him angry enough in the first place to destroy the planet. Huh? So the situation both before and after the flood was the same, therefore he fixed nothing.
uccomic 1 year ago
W. Ian Thomas, expresses the dichotomy of derivation from either God or Satan so succinctly
As godliness is the direct and exclusive consequence of God’s activity, and God’s capacity to reproduce Himself in you, so all ungodliness is the direct and exclusive consequence of Satan’s activity, and of his capacity to reproduce the devil in you! …For iniquity is no more the consequence of your capacity to imitate the devil, than godliness is the consequence of your capacity to imitate God!
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover Event of Genesis - Fossil Records disprove it..
It's funny how in Genesis God creates mammals and birds at the beginning and yet fossilised dinosaur dung show no bones or other evidence of current mammals and birds. There is no evidence that dino's coexisted with todays mammals and birds.
Genesis happened after the collapse of the dominant dinosaur age? I can accept that. The bible doesn't make it clear as to what beginning it was. Genesis could be our beginning.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
@LOLDISNEYLAND
Fossils don't prove anything about the events in Genesis
You really don't know what it means to prove something in science do you.LOL
Atheists always say that are smart and yet always prove (My Bad) show evidence that they are blind fools accepting Lies and denying the truth.
Can you prove God did not created the universe or prove the universe was created in any other way then stated in the bible?
for example what caused the big bang?
Who was the big banger?
SuperTruthlover 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover "Can you prove the universe was created in any other way then stated in the bible?"
How about you first decide WHICH VERSION of the creation account in the Bible you're talking about, because Genesis chapter one has things appearing in a different order than Genesis chapter 2.
uccomic 1 year ago
@SuperTruthlover "Can you prove God did not created the universe or prove the universe was created in any other way then stated in the bible?"
Yup. Species order in the fossilized rock strata is entirely inconsistant with the Genesis account of creation. In short, fossils always go from more primitve creatures in the oldest rock to most advanced in the newest rock. If Genesis was true, all animals started at the same time and the fossil strata should be mixed. It isn't.
Game, set, match.
uccomic 1 year ago