Chinese watches have so far no where NEAR the finish, love and care in them that swiss watches do. its quite good that they managed to make something that works. but there is a reason why swiss tourbillons are more expensive then chinese ones.
@lolcat23 i think you should buy yourself a tourbillon like this and see for yourself. Many people have the same opinion as yours, not even handling the watch once in your life. I own both hi-end chinese and swiss watches,so i have basis to compare the two.China is definitely up to scratch with the Swiss ones, some of them are even better (SeaGull st25 is much better than the more expensive ETAs with which it competes).I know,i'm a watchmaker.
@janchrzciciel haha, your messing with the wrong dude, i am also a watchmaker, and i work in a workshop where we build tourbillons. ETA's dont do tourbillons, get your facts straight.
also, lol, you picked a fight with completely the wrong dude. your shit our of luck.
@lolcat23 I never said that ETA do tourbillons, i've just compared the St25 to ETA products.
I'm not really out of luck, since i own both Sea Gull and Blancpain tourbillons, both of which i service myself. Of course, in blancpain the attention is put on spending 25 million years on hand polishing the cage, which are nice details, but do not correspond with the movements quality.Neither does the sometimes scruffy (in chinese products) finish of the movement.
@janchrzciciel so you are comparing apples and oranges. What are you comparing when you say "st25 is better than the more expensive ETAs it competes with"? longer power reserve? better delta? better what? Its a swiss lever escapement, its never going to be SUPER nice. so what exactly are you talking about? Read what i said and try again. Also, Blancpain cages are ugly imo. bad finishings.
@lolcat23 What matters is the technical bits, as you probably know. The sea gull is not worse than the blancpain or in fact most other tourbillon movements from switzerland. Being a well paid watchmaker, you can probably afford one at around 200 euros for the unbranded version or about 4000 dollars for the sea gull branded one and see for yourself. You won't regret it.
P.S. im not the fighting type, im just pointing out that if you haven't seen it, you should not comment.
@janchrzciciel i HAVE seen it, and if you read again what i said, i was only talking of the quality of the finishing. Thats what matters when were talking about handmade. you can regulate a seagull very nicely, i have no doubt. but thats not the issue, any quartz - as you know - out-regulates anything with a hairspring and balance in it. The quality comes from the design, the care for details and the finitions, that every thing is perfectly done. Thats quality.
The tourbillon is real, as are real all movements of good copies, but the watch itself is a copy of a Breguet, therefore it is a fake, even though I would definately buy it, because I find it even better not to have a brandname showing on your watch.
By the way, is it still working in good order, more than a year and a half later?
this way one may say all tourbs are copies of breguet, as it was the first one. it's not rocket science these days to do blind copies. but they may sometimes follow the general catchy appearances.
Why do only prats comment then end up arguing with another prat? Just look at the video and count to ten before commenting
TheShaunksread 2 months ago
even if it is fake its pretty idc who makes if it works and looks the same im buying
kingdanny4754 1 year ago
dear friends.. where could one go to view these in a market sense.
therealplease 1 year ago
Tourbillon- buahhahaha
hunter170782 2 years ago
Chinese watches have so far no where NEAR the finish, love and care in them that swiss watches do. its quite good that they managed to make something that works. but there is a reason why swiss tourbillons are more expensive then chinese ones.
lolcat23 2 years ago
@lolcat23 i think you should buy yourself a tourbillon like this and see for yourself. Many people have the same opinion as yours, not even handling the watch once in your life. I own both hi-end chinese and swiss watches,so i have basis to compare the two.China is definitely up to scratch with the Swiss ones, some of them are even better (SeaGull st25 is much better than the more expensive ETAs with which it competes).I know,i'm a watchmaker.
janchrzciciel 1 year ago
@janchrzciciel haha, your messing with the wrong dude, i am also a watchmaker, and i work in a workshop where we build tourbillons. ETA's dont do tourbillons, get your facts straight.
also, lol, you picked a fight with completely the wrong dude. your shit our of luck.
lolcat23 1 year ago
@lolcat23 I never said that ETA do tourbillons, i've just compared the St25 to ETA products.
I'm not really out of luck, since i own both Sea Gull and Blancpain tourbillons, both of which i service myself. Of course, in blancpain the attention is put on spending 25 million years on hand polishing the cage, which are nice details, but do not correspond with the movements quality.Neither does the sometimes scruffy (in chinese products) finish of the movement.
janchrzciciel 1 year ago
@janchrzciciel so you are comparing apples and oranges. What are you comparing when you say "st25 is better than the more expensive ETAs it competes with"? longer power reserve? better delta? better what? Its a swiss lever escapement, its never going to be SUPER nice. so what exactly are you talking about? Read what i said and try again. Also, Blancpain cages are ugly imo. bad finishings.
lolcat23 1 year ago
@lolcat23 What matters is the technical bits, as you probably know. The sea gull is not worse than the blancpain or in fact most other tourbillon movements from switzerland. Being a well paid watchmaker, you can probably afford one at around 200 euros for the unbranded version or about 4000 dollars for the sea gull branded one and see for yourself. You won't regret it.
P.S. im not the fighting type, im just pointing out that if you haven't seen it, you should not comment.
janchrzciciel 1 year ago
@janchrzciciel i HAVE seen it, and if you read again what i said, i was only talking of the quality of the finishing. Thats what matters when were talking about handmade. you can regulate a seagull very nicely, i have no doubt. but thats not the issue, any quartz - as you know - out-regulates anything with a hairspring and balance in it. The quality comes from the design, the care for details and the finitions, that every thing is perfectly done. Thats quality.
lolcat23 1 year ago
how much did it cost
Jake199415 3 years ago
As far as I know, amd as can be seen, it's a real tourbillon, but the design is clearly inspired (copied with some differences) on some Breguet.
Descalabro 3 years ago
This watch have brand right, i dont remember the actual brand but i know its a real chinese tourbiloon but its a copy of a original watch !
qinmax 3 years ago
its a fske , chinese tourbillon
qinmax 3 years ago
it's a chinese tourbillon ,not a fake
hsiao5054 3 years ago 6
The tourbillon is real, as are real all movements of good copies, but the watch itself is a copy of a Breguet, therefore it is a fake, even though I would definately buy it, because I find it even better not to have a brandname showing on your watch.
By the way, is it still working in good order, more than a year and a half later?
Descalabro 2 years ago
this way one may say all tourbs are copies of breguet, as it was the first one. it's not rocket science these days to do blind copies. but they may sometimes follow the general catchy appearances.
assa123assa123 1 year ago
@assa123assa123 Yes, I know Breguet invented it, but this watch, its design, is a copy of a Breguet model.
Descalabro 1 year ago
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Descalabro 1 year ago
Very beautiful watch.
Groovyman12 3 years ago
sup again aaron
DuStAn15 2 years ago