I call bs at 2:45. "...and Jason believes there are hundreds, possibly thousands more of them on the Greenland Icecap." I don't give a crap what Jason believes; why don't you count them. (Freaking scientists...believe...wtf) In other words, 'jason' hasn't a clue if there are 5 more or fifty more. He's talking out his ass.
The Earth is changing constantly. this isn't man made by any means.... In fact the ice in Antarctica is growing.. don't be a foolish Al Gore follower.. this is all natural and rest assure our Govts will be taking advantage of your $s,,, simply because a crisis is just too damn good to waste... and by no means is this a crisis... hmmm lets see 97%+ of all the earth's top climatologists agree with my statements.. the ones that scare you to death are the ones getting paid! most likely BY gore!
Whether natural or human affected, the planet's climate is clearly changing and not for the better. Texas is catching on fire and it's lakes are nearly empty as just one example in the US. The Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University is on record that according to careful studies of the geological record, Texas isn't in drought...it's reverting to normal. However, I understand the skepticism, because the implications are terrifying. Denial is the easy out.
@kwsloan The lakes in TX are empty becuase the farmers are sucking all the water out of the aquifers. The primary problem in the world today is the same primary problem that humans have always faced: we are aware of our own mortality and it scares the fuck out of us and so we invent crises and gods.
If you can just dissociate slightly from the fear, it's actually quite entertaining to watch.
why isnt this ever on the news ... I mean you see bits and pieces etc but man .. 42L a day! lol jesus man everyone laughs at this and says global warming is fake including myself but .... we seriously need to wake up
@Assassins14 yep you're right my friend........ it's all natural changes taking place... If this is man made then the Mayan calender is correct as well, and we will be dead next month in February
Those guys are fucking stupid, one slip and they are all dead.
Greenland has the name because parts of it were found to be warm, green and pleasant 1,000 years ago; so it was settled by the vikings. They had to leave when the Climate Changed 700 years ago as the little ice age started in the middle ages and Greenland froze again
Ask the IPCC and Michael Mann where these periods are on his HOCKEY STICK!!!?
There is no danger of Greenland melting for thousands of years even if the globe warms 10c
According to NASA in the early 70's the star is getting hotter & rather than go on & on & just embarrass yourselves with psuedo-science get a grip on reality & accept the star is older than you thought & is getting low on hydrogen.
So really you should think of sunspots as places where it already burns iron & look again at Isaiah 24 & what he predicts about the star ceasing to shine light & re-read what Christ said about the star scorching earth with intense heat & read 2-Pet Ch-3 too & think.
No global warming.. All land mass is a ship floating on a molten magma sea. If a ship when fully loaded say 40,000 tons of cargo, throw it into the sea, the ship floats higher, likewise the Greenland land mass is on the molten mantle, the water loss lightens the land mass, it floats precisely the same as the ship, higher on the molten sea. Really you people need to sit down and study what I am telling you. Antarctica is the same we will end up with a fertile continent and island for food Yahweh
The water on the glaciers surface is not the central problem or question in case of melting icecaps, far more interesting would be knowing what is below the surface. Greenlands topography is like a waterbowl with its deepest point far below the ocean surface where immense amounts of water could be stored. If we only watch the surface answers will be incomplete...
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Massive methane seeps, ice shelf collapses( both poles), summer Arctic sea ice reduction, upticking of global mean temps, CO2 at 390 ppm, tundra rotting, billions spent by oil to run the denial machine(very telling sign), migration patterns disrupted, pine beetle infestations, botanical signs, increased glacial calving, decreased glacial ice mass globally. Yep, seems like the signs are telling us it's not happening. NOT!!
@bridgetskittles yes this does happen every summer, but the big issue here is that the ice sheet is retreating at a faster rate than it is being replenished. With the highest levels of CO2 in the atmosphere in the past 400,000 plus years (most likely due to the burning of fossil fuels) this "melting" process will continue to happen.
Your "concern" is continued funding for your "research". Climate has been changing for all of earth's history. Look up Maunder Minimum. Look up, The Mini Ice Age. All at a a time BEFORE the CO2 that we're responsible for.
@hopeso you are correct about the climate changing however the problem we are creating today relates to the speed at which we are changing it andthe knockon effects of that. It is so much more than just temperature.It is altered weather patterns, soil nitrification, ocean acidification, trophic shifts and so many more things. Simplistic arguments just don't cut it. You also have no idea how research funding works. Stick to things you actually know.
@nickandersen9393 Greenland was called that because when Europeans discovered it, the climate was warm enough to allow green things to grow. No glacier in sight. It might have been there, but far, far inland, out of sight.
What's happening now is just a return to those days. What's your beef? Warmer weather? You want it to stay cold? Are you crazy?
@hopeso - NO, there is absolutely no documented proof of Greenland being glacier free during that period. Yes it is true that Europeans tried to settle Greenland during the medieval warming period (google it) but it was short lived, just like the European settlements. In fact the rise and fall of the different European settlements correlate well with the Average temperatures in Greenland, and there has always been bare ground near the coasts since the last glacial maximum..facts not conjecture!
@uChakide Read my post. See, this is the problem, you folks don't understand English or you're sloppy in comprehension. I SAID, no glacier in sight, but located FAR inland, too far away to see. So the green they saw, as far as the eye can see, prompted them to call this land, GREENland.
I never said that Greenland was ever glacier free, so READ MY POST.
And your argument about the RISE AND FALL of Greenland temps correlating with settlement attempts PROVES MY POINT. Thanks for that.
@hopeso - no I did see it, and it is the same situation today, you can stand on some of the coastal regions and not see the ice-sheet. What I am saying is why is the 300 year anomaly, the medieval warming period, considered normal to you and that things are returning to it. Your problem is you are using the Greenland Ice-sheet in isolation to underline your point, we are saying that it is part of a wider phenomenon, glacial formations are melting the world over...and rapidly.
@uChakide I'm not using the Greenland Ice-sheet in isolation, this video is and YOU are by defending it as proof of anthropogenic, climate change. The Medieval warming period illustrates in a VERY small time frame that the planet has OTHER, much more powerful influences on climate and weather, NOTHING to do with our activities.
YES, the climate is going through a period of change but there is NO proof that man has anything to do with it.
@hopeso - Whoa brother, I never said this was proof of AGW, there are far more compelling data that suggests that the climate change is in part human driven. I just called you out on your weak argument.
surely the data is mute until u compare it with other years. Cos ofcourse Greenland will melt during the summer anyway, which it clearly is in this vid. So these guys are getting flustered over nothing.... ak. propaganda
@uknowispeaksense Your links don't work just like your "science". There is ZERO evidence that we are contributing in any way to the immense forces of nature involved in weather and climate. Our contribution is in fractions.
Decades ago it was "acid rain". Then the ozone layer. Then Global Warming and when it was pointed out that parts of the world are cooling, it had to be a new buzz word. climate change.
The Rovers have detected climate change on MARS and they don't run on gas.
@uknowispeaksense i cant be arsed to look at ur references right now, sorry. Though have you considered the North Atlantic Oscillations? Every single piece of "green party" data i have seen on Greenland melting take extreme values from the past 20 years or so and when u correlate them to NAO's its quite funny because they correlate to the extreme years. Though in truth Green land ice is getting smaller, slowly. The scariness is in the unknown exponential rates of the future.
with greenlands small population is crime almost unheard of. I'm assuming assaults don't go on in places like greenland due to the less dense population.
These guys present themselves as heros and scientists , but in reality they are actors; performers for the camera creating drama for their faithful followers.
I've done creek water flow measurement these guys didn't do it - you have to set up pickets measure the depth and water velocity of the stream at several places across the stream and perform calculations.
Why didn't they do the measurements 100m upstream it would have been safer. Could it be they are trying to make something look sensational?
Big Media gloom and doom - don't they over-hype everything? Check out "Summit Station" Greenland. That's where the real science is being done - not a wild estimate from some kid hanging off a rope. Greenland is 1.5 times the size of Texas and over 10k thick at the center. Summit Station records temps of minus 108F and even minus 40F/C seven months of year.
* Runaway global population is our biggest geo-political problem and yet no one discusses it. Out of control American consumerism too.
Does any one realise that hundreds of years ago trees once grew all over Greenland! The climate there was much warmer! Infact they are still finding Tree Stumps under snow,ice and sea up there. Its just a natural cycle, it will warm up then freeze again over millenia. The tree stumps prove it was once a warm place? How else would you explain tree stumps found under metres of ice?
Greenland comes from the early Scandinavian settlers. In the Icelandic sagas, it is said that Norwegian-born Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for murder. He, along with his extended family and thralls, set out in ships to find a land rumoured to lie to the northwest. After settling there, he named the land Grønland ("Greenland"), supposedly in the hope that the pleasant name would attract settlers.
thanks to the deliberate heating of the planet due to chemclouds & plasmic skycover that are government is PURPOSELY spraying into our atmosphere,the ice is melting rapidlyon the north and south poles,the government wants it too,there is massive oil underneath the poles.the big hoax is that the nwo can blame it on global warming,car emissions etc,when in reality its a media hoax to cover up that man made geoengineering is destroying our planet,the chem clouds block in the heat & ultraviolet rays
what does mile per hour have to do with anything? Some volume per times periodd (gallons per second, for example) is what you need to know. I'm a believer in human-caused warming, but you guys are deliberately playing up the "danger factor" for the camera. Do some science. Publish it. Stop making yourself a target of deniers being doing stupid propoganda shit.
Could it be they are manipulating data, the usual trick is to go during the spring melt & like he says, there are 1000z of these ice rivers in GL not all are running at the same rate.
To be fair this data has to be taken from a good large sample holes spread over the seasons and averaged out over a 7 yr period otherwise this is just an assumption.
no way they should be standing there. anywhere you have mass water flow, near sand or earth or ice, the structure is unstable and can collapse at any time, and the chance is increased with any added forces (as in them walking on that ice shoulder). they should be wearing full compliance harnesses, that are tethered to a vehicle or another secure hold far from the edge. falling in that water would have sucked them down into that hole, into the glacier, and to a very certain death.
You can't measure the volume flow rate using the velocity of the water alone. You'd have to know the cross-sectional area. These guys sound like fear-mongering idiots.
These guys are stupid, they shouldn't have gotten that close to the entrance to measure the speed, should have taken it at least a few metres back, recorded the depth and width and bam there's your flow. That close and fast it would be too turbulent to give accurate measurements with the plus side of better safety
Sorry it took a while to respond. The depth would be an issue to get the exact results but measuring the depth right next to the hole would be even harder to do. There are many kinds of electronic depth finding equipment and a high end would would surely be able to map the floor level and return it into a simple equation that could be integrated up to the water level to find the area
Sorry it took a while to respond. The depth would be an issue to get the exact results but measuring the depth right next to the hole would be even harder to do. There are many kinds of electronic depth finding equipment and a high end would would surely be able to map the floor level and return it into a simple equation that could be integrated up to the water level to find the area
@Husqvarnah01 Sorry to contradict you, and the fifteen simpletons who just happened to like your reasoning; but if you do that, you would fail to measure the second stream that converge near the hole. If you look carefully at the beginning, you can see that there are two steams converging just at the entrance.
why cant u beleive the earth goes through cycles volcanoes and all the other wonders of the earth developed over millions of years to maintain a natural balance of things. and if mother nature cant maintain the human race we all will be wiped out into extinction balance restored .i wish we would have an ice age that completely froze the entire earth so that yall would cry about needing warmer temperatures
amazing how people are so self important asses .that they beleive that they are stronger than mother nature and that we are completely to blame for glaciers that have been around for thousands of years melting i suppose they beleive no melting ever took place before we had cars and planes and tvs
@bellestarr71 umm what does science have to do with armani and stocks?
To be honest, I never expected our "climate scientists" to be anything scientific. I expected them just like they show in this video: biased, ideologically blinded child-heads. I just didnt expect their retardedness to be that obvious.
I can't believe this silly crap! Like this doesn't happen every frickin' summer on the Greenland icecap! In the summer of 1888, Fritdjof Nansen's first crossing expedition found their way frequently obstructed by meltwater rivers.
i think that sun is not only the factor of the ice meltdown.it could be that the lava underground has raised up and it heats up the crust and the crust is heating the glaciers.
The narator said that greenland according to the waterloss calculation is loosing enough water per year to cover Germany 1 meter deep, but how much is being replaced by snow fall?? he never mentioned that part...Maybe the vikings will return and grow crops there.... this isnt a new event
@skeight976 There are some water bottling companies that actually harvest ice from icebergs, but I think glaciers are too remote to make a practical profit from.
" NASA DECLARED 2009 WAS MINIMUM SOLAR YEAR: Green Land Glacier Deiceing during March 5, 2009. IT IS NOT SUN OR CO2 BUT CON: DE-ICERS. BY Capturing De-icers from BAFFIN BAY THE PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED . "
Well i only graduated 6th grade??? But I remember from my science class that water falls at 32 ft per second per second so I just figure that it would have a constant speed at the very steep ange this wastful idiot was mesuring it . Then I was riding in my stroller and I noticed that when I did not hold my pin wheel 90 degrees to the wind it turned at a different speed. I guess this rocket scientist never had a pin wheel?? Im sorry he risked his life for the usless data? let go of the rope!
@uknowispeaksense And you're telling me that people like Al Gore, who know NOTHING about global warming & science in general, are not propagandists? He's made millions of $ off of fools like you who buy into this nonsense. He also drives around in a gas-guzzling SUV & maintains a huge mansion in Tennessee that thrives off of fossil fuel.
Environmentalism has become a religion with people like you. Got to go now. Rush Limbaugh's coming on Then, I'm lighting the barbecue in the back yard.
@unclejuniorsoprano i've never watched the gore video. i do all of my research using search engines like ebscohost, sciencedirect, springerlink etc. But let me get this straight. Is your argument, "Al Gore is a hypocrite, therefore global warming isn't real."??? Because that would be very weak. I tell my children to eat broccoli because its healthy. I don't eat broccoli. Using your logic, my hypocrisy makes broccoli unhealthy.
@uknowispeaksense You completely missed the point. Scientists on the other end of the spectrum contend that the earth goes through cyclical trends of warming & cooling that have nothing to do with pollution caused by human beings. A lot of people associate hot weather with earthquakes & during a heat wave they often call it "earthquake weather." Protecting the environment is important, but must be within reason. Check out Penn & Teller's "Bull Shit" segment on environmentalism on YT.
@unclejuniorsoprano The earth does go through cyclical trends triggered by Milankovitch cycles. The effects from Milankovitch cycles and solar irradiance and earthquake outputs and all the other natural forcings are easily measured. They are nowhere near enough to count for the current warming and happen over longer periods. I think Penn & Teller should stick to magic comedy and leave environmental science to experts. If you can't produce credible sources of information, we are done.
@uknowispeaksense Again, you miss the point. Why should Penn & Teller stick to magic & allow experts to talk science? When they are right about something, must they have to have a Phd for their point to be valid? Did you bother to watch that segment of P & T, or are you one of those people who are only impressed by a person's credentials?
Why don't you write P&T & tell them how to manage their magic act, since you seem to know more than they do about everything. Go on, tell them what you think!
@unclejuniorsoprano OK, I watched several of their youtube videos. At no point did they produce one shred of scientific evidence to suggest AGW isn't real. They dug up one disgruntled "ecologist" who himself, didn't actually disput AGW but talked about the hijacking of some environmental groups by anti-corporate types. Still no science. I get electricians to rewire my house, doctors to diagnose health problems, and magicians to do magic. Credentials are important. cont...
@uknowispeaksense And who do you hire to make intelligent decisions for you? There are lots of doctors out there who practice medicine with credentials, but don't know what they're doing. They're called quacks. Michael Jackson hired one. You find them all over. So much of your environmental bull shit is nothing but junk science & YOU know it. People buy into such nonsense out of ignorance. That's what Penn & Teller is about. They don't pretend to be scientist. They expose BULL SHIT. Comprende?
@unclejuniorsoprano I see, so if they are credentialled they are quacks but if they aren't they are worthy of listening to. Like I said, if all you have is propaganda to argue against science than we are done. Propaganda is the tool of the ignorant and if you don't even know that than you are more ignorant than you already appear and as dumb as a box of rocks to boot. P&T exposing BS is propaganda you muppet.
@uknowispeaksense Penn & Teller would have a field day with a guy like you! The only way you can win an argument is to be derisive & rotten. You can't stay focused & revert to generalizing when you run out of ammo. You spend your Friday nights writing bull shit on YT when you ought to be partying. Good Night! Got things to do!
@unclejuniorsoprano and as for telling Penn & Teller how to manage their magic act? I wouldn't do that because magic acts are not my area of expertise. I know what my limitations are. Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there who are too stupid to recognise what they don't know and go off talking about things they don't really understand. Now if Penn & Teller could sit in front of the camera with no dramatic music and editing and just dispute whatever they are disputing with straight...
@unclejuniorsoprano .. and facts, I might be convinced that they know what they are talking about but only then if they listed their credible sources at the end. The fact thet you are relying on magician youtube videos for your scientific assessment of climate change demonstrates that you, like so many of your ilk are too stupid to know your limitations within this subject matter. The fact that propaganda is your only weapon reinforces this. We are done.
What planet are they living on? The troposphere today is 0.86 degrees celcius colder than this day last year. The Pacific Ocean is cooling and there are at present fourteen active volcanoes. America has just had one of its harshest winters. Trust your senses.
@uknowispeaksense go find them youself but watch out, there is a lot of fraudulent data out there. Watch Climategate'Hide the decline' explained by prof Richard A Muller on youtube . Peer reviewed or pals reviewed?
@david222444 Yep, watched it.Jus thave to wonder though, why hedidn't go indpeth into why the tree ring data is no longer reliable? Do you know? Its very simple and has to do with changed rainfall patterns. When you compare the tree ring data to no less than 15 other proxies including isotope data from coral cores, ice core data etc etc as well as the temperature data it is the only one out of whack. The thing is, in their paper, they actually mention that they have done it! Read the thing....
0:45
"welcome to the epicenter of global warming" - he does not know what epicenter means.
"it's just bottomless" - he does not know what bottomless means.
"no light escapes" - he read something about black holes, but he understand neither blacks holes, nor light.
MrDrBalls 4 hours ago
I call bs at 2:45. "...and Jason believes there are hundreds, possibly thousands more of them on the Greenland Icecap." I don't give a crap what Jason believes; why don't you count them. (Freaking scientists...believe...wtf) In other words, 'jason' hasn't a clue if there are 5 more or fifty more. He's talking out his ass.
plbuster 11 hours ago
Wow...these guys suck at math.
plbuster 11 hours ago
The Earth is changing constantly. this isn't man made by any means.... In fact the ice in Antarctica is growing.. don't be a foolish Al Gore follower.. this is all natural and rest assure our Govts will be taking advantage of your $s,,, simply because a crisis is just too damn good to waste... and by no means is this a crisis... hmmm lets see 97%+ of all the earth's top climatologists agree with my statements.. the ones that scare you to death are the ones getting paid! most likely BY gore!
TheFiddlah 1 day ago
Whether natural or human affected, the planet's climate is clearly changing and not for the better. Texas is catching on fire and it's lakes are nearly empty as just one example in the US. The Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University is on record that according to careful studies of the geological record, Texas isn't in drought...it's reverting to normal. However, I understand the skepticism, because the implications are terrifying. Denial is the easy out.
kwsloan 1 week ago
@kwsloan The lakes in TX are empty becuase the farmers are sucking all the water out of the aquifers. The primary problem in the world today is the same primary problem that humans have always faced: we are aware of our own mortality and it scares the fuck out of us and so we invent crises and gods.
If you can just dissociate slightly from the fear, it's actually quite entertaining to watch.
MrDrBalls 4 hours ago
beautiful,beautiful they should start a spa or something
harolze 1 week ago
why isnt this ever on the news ... I mean you see bits and pieces etc but man .. 42L a day! lol jesus man everyone laughs at this and says global warming is fake including myself but .... we seriously need to wake up
Assassins14 2 weeks ago
@Assassins14 yep you're right my friend........ it's all natural changes taking place... If this is man made then the Mayan calender is correct as well, and we will be dead next month in February
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Those guys are fucking stupid, one slip and they are all dead.
Greenland has the name because parts of it were found to be warm, green and pleasant 1,000 years ago; so it was settled by the vikings. They had to leave when the Climate Changed 700 years ago as the little ice age started in the middle ages and Greenland froze again
Ask the IPCC and Michael Mann where these periods are on his HOCKEY STICK!!!?
There is no danger of Greenland melting for thousands of years even if the globe warms 10c
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According to NASA in the early 70's the star is getting hotter & rather than go on & on & just embarrass yourselves with psuedo-science get a grip on reality & accept the star is older than you thought & is getting low on hydrogen.
So really you should think of sunspots as places where it already burns iron & look again at Isaiah 24 & what he predicts about the star ceasing to shine light & re-read what Christ said about the star scorching earth with intense heat & read 2-Pet Ch-3 too & think.
spacelizardlaw 2 weeks ago
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spacelizardlaw 2 weeks ago
oh boy climate change, hard lesbo stuff coming up, bring it,
seennlisten 2 weeks ago
This is normal, ordinary and fascinating
Aelfrith1 2 weeks ago
No global warming.. All land mass is a ship floating on a molten magma sea. If a ship when fully loaded say 40,000 tons of cargo, throw it into the sea, the ship floats higher, likewise the Greenland land mass is on the molten mantle, the water loss lightens the land mass, it floats precisely the same as the ship, higher on the molten sea. Really you people need to sit down and study what I am telling you. Antarctica is the same we will end up with a fertile continent and island for food Yahweh
NibiruClose 2 weeks ago
@NibiruClose but i thought the earth was flat?
ollywatkins 2 weeks ago
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kiddalingur 2 weeks ago
The water on the glaciers surface is not the central problem or question in case of melting icecaps, far more interesting would be knowing what is below the surface. Greenlands topography is like a waterbowl with its deepest point far below the ocean surface where immense amounts of water could be stored. If we only watch the surface answers will be incomplete...
Nice pictures anyway...
Greetings Queen
QueenOfUnimatrixZero 2 weeks ago
freshest water you can get! ice burg vodka lol awesome vid
juniorkitty11 2 weeks ago
lots of freshwater and humans disturb it again...damn, there goes the new water supply.
rufdawg100 2 weeks ago
OMFG! How can anyone take these posers seriously? What an epic load of good old smelly cheap bullshit this video!
wigbam 2 weeks ago
would love to kayak down that. has anyone done it?
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Embassadorkingofpeac 2 weeks ago
sounds like Tom Hanks
TomDean3004 3 weeks ago
68 degrees Fahrenheit during the day here in Las Vegas on Dec 31, 2011.
Chriznak 3 weeks ago
@Chriznak so?
thats cool for a desert lol
piehamcake1 3 weeks ago
@Chriznak so? thats cool for a desert lol
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greenland...is full of ice......and iceland is full of green........WWWWTTTTTFFFFF
MrChannel5news 1 month ago
greenland...is full of ice......and iceland is full of green........WWWWTTTTTFFFFF
MrChannel5news 1 month ago
On a scale from 1 to 10, what is this? "An 11." I hate when people do that.
cracks21229 1 month ago
Massive methane seeps, ice shelf collapses( both poles), summer Arctic sea ice reduction, upticking of global mean temps, CO2 at 390 ppm, tundra rotting, billions spent by oil to run the denial machine(very telling sign), migration patterns disrupted, pine beetle infestations, botanical signs, increased glacial calving, decreased glacial ice mass globally. Yep, seems like the signs are telling us it's not happening. NOT!!
saxmanchiro 1 month ago 6
Unbelieveble, these guys fly a giant helicopter and destroy the earth.
Too bad they didn't fall in the hole.
koertje 1 month ago
Greenland isn't 'melting' wtf. This happens EVERY summer, it's just part of the cycle in Greenland, its meant to happen
Have these guys actually done any research?:L.
bridgetskittles 1 month ago
@bridgetskittles yes this does happen every summer, but the big issue here is that the ice sheet is retreating at a faster rate than it is being replenished. With the highest levels of CO2 in the atmosphere in the past 400,000 plus years (most likely due to the burning of fossil fuels) this "melting" process will continue to happen.
jfrank197TBC 1 month ago 2
@jfrank197TBC LOl xD 400,000 plus years...yeah right...go smack yourself
MrChannel5news 1 month ago
@MrChannel5news why do you find 400,000 years so amusing? Or is because the earth only 6,000 years old to you?
jfrank197TBC 3 weeks ago
@jfrank197TBC Actually its because your comment is ridiculous and that makes you a dumbass xD
MrChannel5news 3 weeks ago
@bridgetskittles stubid people do you know what you talking about??? :O
do you know were we are ??? :O stupid if you Research about weather so you know were we are...
nickandersen9393 1 month ago
@bridgetskittles I'm from greenland i know were we go Its DECEMBER Now its Still warm in Greenland
nickandersen9393 1 month ago
is there a torrent anywhere to see this vid in it's entirety?
Research0digo 1 month ago
these guys are douches lol
hoopy2929 1 month ago
Your "concern" is continued funding for your "research". Climate has been changing for all of earth's history. Look up Maunder Minimum. Look up, The Mini Ice Age. All at a a time BEFORE the CO2 that we're responsible for.
Also look up whatreallyhappened(*)com
hopeso 2 months ago
@hopeso you are correct about the climate changing however the problem we are creating today relates to the speed at which we are changing it andthe knockon effects of that. It is so much more than just temperature.It is altered weather patterns, soil nitrification, ocean acidification, trophic shifts and so many more things. Simplistic arguments just don't cut it. You also have no idea how research funding works. Stick to things you actually know.
uknowispeaksense 1 month ago
Im from greenland its almost december There is no Snow yet
that so weird we destroying the World we have 13000 Satellites at the earth
-.- we destroy the world -.-
nickandersen9393 2 months ago
@nickandersen9393 dude im from Iceland i don't think this is that much a concern.
If you look at who profits from this like carbon tax and so on. Its just a scam. :P
NitroxideHS 2 months ago
@NitroxideHS there is a large variety Greenland also Iceland,
American use Greenland as you can see on Ice The ice is not white it use to be white fucking american the most stubid people in the World
nickandersen9393 1 month ago
@nickandersen9393 Greenland was called that because when Europeans discovered it, the climate was warm enough to allow green things to grow. No glacier in sight. It might have been there, but far, far inland, out of sight.
What's happening now is just a return to those days. What's your beef? Warmer weather? You want it to stay cold? Are you crazy?
hopeso 1 month ago
@hopeso - NO, there is absolutely no documented proof of Greenland being glacier free during that period. Yes it is true that Europeans tried to settle Greenland during the medieval warming period (google it) but it was short lived, just like the European settlements. In fact the rise and fall of the different European settlements correlate well with the Average temperatures in Greenland, and there has always been bare ground near the coasts since the last glacial maximum..facts not conjecture!
uChakide 1 month ago
@uChakide Read my post. See, this is the problem, you folks don't understand English or you're sloppy in comprehension. I SAID, no glacier in sight, but located FAR inland, too far away to see. So the green they saw, as far as the eye can see, prompted them to call this land, GREENland.
I never said that Greenland was ever glacier free, so READ MY POST.
And your argument about the RISE AND FALL of Greenland temps correlating with settlement attempts PROVES MY POINT. Thanks for that.
hopeso 1 month ago
@hopeso - no I did see it, and it is the same situation today, you can stand on some of the coastal regions and not see the ice-sheet. What I am saying is why is the 300 year anomaly, the medieval warming period, considered normal to you and that things are returning to it. Your problem is you are using the Greenland Ice-sheet in isolation to underline your point, we are saying that it is part of a wider phenomenon, glacial formations are melting the world over...and rapidly.
uChakide 1 month ago
@uChakide I'm not using the Greenland Ice-sheet in isolation, this video is and YOU are by defending it as proof of anthropogenic, climate change. The Medieval warming period illustrates in a VERY small time frame that the planet has OTHER, much more powerful influences on climate and weather, NOTHING to do with our activities.
YES, the climate is going through a period of change but there is NO proof that man has anything to do with it.
hopeso 1 month ago
@hopeso - Whoa brother, I never said this was proof of AGW, there are far more compelling data that suggests that the climate change is in part human driven. I just called you out on your weak argument.
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hopeso 1 month ago
Perfect place to dump a dead body!
suddenrushsarge 2 months ago
The best way to save the planet is for everyone to stop having kids and let the ducks take over.
MrBeautifulba1 2 months ago
drama drama drama. just take the fucking reading
dibble2005 2 months ago
This land doesn't look green at all.... XD
undisputed4life 2 months ago
mmmm that water looks so nice and clean, i'd love to fill up nalgene with some of it
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doomkiller673 1 week ago
@KiDxKraZiie And plus it will be to hot then 2011 and the others and december jan feb march have no SNOW!!!
doomkiller673 1 week ago
If it's so dangerous, why have a conversation right next to the thing after you get your data??
noyan000 2 months ago
surely the data is mute until u compare it with other years. Cos ofcourse Greenland will melt during the summer anyway, which it clearly is in this vid. So these guys are getting flustered over nothing.... ak. propaganda
GeologistRob 2 months ago
@GeologistRob Oh you mean like this....
doi:10.1088/1755-1307/6/1/012015
if you whack that into google it will bring up as abstract. Here's another...
doi.org/10.3189/002214311797409712
no propaganda in these two references but plenty of quality science.
uknowispeaksense 1 month ago
@uknowispeaksense Your links don't work just like your "science". There is ZERO evidence that we are contributing in any way to the immense forces of nature involved in weather and climate. Our contribution is in fractions.
Decades ago it was "acid rain". Then the ozone layer. Then Global Warming and when it was pointed out that parts of the world are cooling, it had to be a new buzz word. climate change.
The Rovers have detected climate change on MARS and they don't run on gas.
hopeso 1 month ago
@hopeso that's weird. they worked last night when I checked before posting. I will track down the papers they link to and get back to you.
uknowispeaksense 1 month ago
@hopeso if you go to google scholar and put in "Greenland ice sheet surface melt extent and trends: 1960-2010" that is one of the papers.
uknowispeaksense 1 month ago
@uknowispeaksense i cant be arsed to look at ur references right now, sorry. Though have you considered the North Atlantic Oscillations? Every single piece of "green party" data i have seen on Greenland melting take extreme values from the past 20 years or so and when u correlate them to NAO's its quite funny because they correlate to the extreme years. Though in truth Green land ice is getting smaller, slowly. The scariness is in the unknown exponential rates of the future.
GeologistRob 1 month ago
with greenlands small population is crime almost unheard of. I'm assuming assaults don't go on in places like greenland due to the less dense population.
210482fmj 2 months ago
These guys present themselves as heros and scientists , but in reality they are actors; performers for the camera creating drama for their faithful followers.
highperactive1 3 months ago
Warmer is better.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 3 months ago
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Yeaaaaaaaaah I wouldn't even get close to that.
kiasta 3 months ago
I've done creek water flow measurement these guys didn't do it - you have to set up pickets measure the depth and water velocity of the stream at several places across the stream and perform calculations.
Why didn't they do the measurements 100m upstream it would have been safer. Could it be they are trying to make something look sensational?
Then again what do I know I'm just a scientist.
dapperdan623 3 months ago 2
@dapperdan623 lol for real, im willing to bet that "flow meter" was just a ski pole
nimajnebula 2 months ago
They need to listen to real scientist from MIT and not these Al Gore quacks! Global warming is a fraud!
MsTheresaKelly1 3 months ago
Big Media gloom and doom - don't they over-hype everything? Check out "Summit Station" Greenland. That's where the real science is being done - not a wild estimate from some kid hanging off a rope. Greenland is 1.5 times the size of Texas and over 10k thick at the center. Summit Station records temps of minus 108F and even minus 40F/C seven months of year.
* Runaway global population is our biggest geo-political problem and yet no one discusses it. Out of control American consumerism too.
pboscophoto 3 months ago
Does any one realise that hundreds of years ago trees once grew all over Greenland! The climate there was much warmer! Infact they are still finding Tree Stumps under snow,ice and sea up there. Its just a natural cycle, it will warm up then freeze again over millenia. The tree stumps prove it was once a warm place? How else would you explain tree stumps found under metres of ice?
MrNativeDancer 3 months ago
They should bottle that water and sell it. It would be the next big thing. "Glacier Water."
curtissboggs 3 months ago
@curtissboggs otherwise known as "isklar". :-)
iamtherandomer 3 months ago
Greenland comes from the early Scandinavian settlers. In the Icelandic sagas, it is said that Norwegian-born Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for murder. He, along with his extended family and thralls, set out in ships to find a land rumoured to lie to the northwest. After settling there, he named the land Grønland ("Greenland"), supposedly in the hope that the pleasant name would attract settlers.
troglodyte2084 3 months ago
damn corrupt NWO TV-actors
c4mp3r0r 3 months ago
I wonder what the flow rate of glacial ice melt there was on Greenland, say in 1000 A.D.?
Oh yea, there wasn't glacial MELT going on then....there was glacial CONSTRUCTION since the climate was cooling.
Anyone ever wonder why it is called "Greenland"?
Because when the Vikings, as agriculturalists, first settled the area, it was very *gasp* green.
You people need to wake up and realize that the Earth and sun go through periodic warming and cooling periods....sometimes very rapidly.
TheKiltedPatriot 3 months ago
you fall in there and come out where? dead i know but where!!!
19may0001 3 months ago
Thanks for enlightening us.
They are nature lovers.
PUTHENTHOPE 4 months ago
Throw Al Gore in there.
wilatemodel 4 months ago
HAIKU
I hatch! Crawl! And swim!
Oh how I love my sweet life,
But—why's the sea so WARM?
StephanieLisaTara 4 months ago
soon greenland can live up to it's name if this continues.
angrysoulz 4 months ago
Water going down a fall always moves faster. I see fudge factor here. However it is still alarming .
hellavadeal 4 months ago
thanks to the deliberate heating of the planet due to chemclouds & plasmic skycover that are government is PURPOSELY spraying into our atmosphere,the ice is melting rapidlyon the north and south poles,the government wants it too,there is massive oil underneath the poles.the big hoax is that the nwo can blame it on global warming,car emissions etc,when in reality its a media hoax to cover up that man made geoengineering is destroying our planet,the chem clouds block in the heat & ultraviolet rays
BrutalTruthMediaMaui 4 months ago 2
@BrutalTruthMediaMaui You're a dumbass.
Keinlicht 3 months ago
@BrutalTruthMediaMaui Is your tin foil hat a little too tight, mate?
Terdmissle9 3 months ago
@Terdmissle9 your consciousness is suppressed..
BrutalTruthMediaMaui 3 months ago
@BrutalTruthMediaMaui I have an open mind, and even i think that the thought of the government is out to get us is ridiculous
Terdmissle9 3 months ago
This is very interesting. I'd never get that close to that thing, but great video, thanks for the info.
zippagraphics 4 months ago
ohhh,I want that water.um, try solar,not global.
ilovety65 4 months ago
what does mile per hour have to do with anything? Some volume per times periodd (gallons per second, for example) is what you need to know. I'm a believer in human-caused warming, but you guys are deliberately playing up the "danger factor" for the camera. Do some science. Publish it. Stop making yourself a target of deniers being doing stupid propoganda shit.
damnbigfish 4 months ago
This is a job for AL GORE!
unclejuniorsoprano 4 months ago
it doesnt melt in the winter though
ajgolfer1 4 months ago
@ajgolfer1 It does now.
eddiequest4 4 months ago
:45 whoa dude...lets surf that !!!
xpez 4 months ago
Could it be they are manipulating data, the usual trick is to go during the spring melt & like he says, there are 1000z of these ice rivers in GL not all are running at the same rate.
To be fair this data has to be taken from a good large sample holes spread over the seasons and averaged out over a 7 yr period otherwise this is just an assumption.
stiffex 4 months ago
i want to slide down there
Dravkoja 5 months ago
no way they should be standing there. anywhere you have mass water flow, near sand or earth or ice, the structure is unstable and can collapse at any time, and the chance is increased with any added forces (as in them walking on that ice shoulder). they should be wearing full compliance harnesses, that are tethered to a vehicle or another secure hold far from the edge. falling in that water would have sucked them down into that hole, into the glacier, and to a very certain death.
loknloll 5 months ago
that water looks sooooo puuuure i want some.
TrikSta44 5 months ago
You can't measure the volume flow rate using the velocity of the water alone. You'd have to know the cross-sectional area. These guys sound like fear-mongering idiots.
steveakadeltronzero 5 months ago
These guys are stupid, they shouldn't have gotten that close to the entrance to measure the speed, should have taken it at least a few metres back, recorded the depth and width and bam there's your flow. That close and fast it would be too turbulent to give accurate measurements with the plus side of better safety
Husqvarnah01 5 months ago 14
@Husqvarnah01 But how could they possibly measure the depth?
tayiper 4 months ago
@tayiper
Sorry it took a while to respond. The depth would be an issue to get the exact results but measuring the depth right next to the hole would be even harder to do. There are many kinds of electronic depth finding equipment and a high end would would surely be able to map the floor level and return it into a simple equation that could be integrated up to the water level to find the area
Husqvarnah01 3 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 Tnx. for the response anyway. It's a mere coincidence that I am so quick (in replying to you). :D
tayiper 3 months ago
@tayiper
Sorry it took a while to respond. The depth would be an issue to get the exact results but measuring the depth right next to the hole would be even harder to do. There are many kinds of electronic depth finding equipment and a high end would would surely be able to map the floor level and return it into a simple equation that could be integrated up to the water level to find the area
Husqvarnah01 3 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 But how could they possibly measure the depth?
tayiper 4 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 You're right, these guy's are retarded.
BeetleSales 3 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 How do you know that would get the proper reading they were looking for? Do you do stuff like that as a profession?
TheJam1192 3 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 Sorry to contradict you, and the fifteen simpletons who just happened to like your reasoning; but if you do that, you would fail to measure the second stream that converge near the hole. If you look carefully at the beginning, you can see that there are two steams converging just at the entrance.
cristhianbourlot 2 months ago
@Husqvarnah01 then you fucking join them if you are a fucking genius..
akilisatolitot 1 month ago
*lights matches* hahahah! IM contributing to global ..warming...bah . campfire? No? hmmm...*throws C4*
ThePixelChaos 5 months ago
Interesting but no need for all the fear mongering, it's natural.
STEVEGET 5 months ago
OMFG GLOBAL WARMING WE ALL GONNA DIE.....no.
Random1598 5 months ago
why cant u beleive the earth goes through cycles volcanoes and all the other wonders of the earth developed over millions of years to maintain a natural balance of things. and if mother nature cant maintain the human race we all will be wiped out into extinction balance restored .i wish we would have an ice age that completely froze the entire earth so that yall would cry about needing warmer temperatures
southerntrucker42069 5 months ago
amazing how people are so self important asses .that they beleive that they are stronger than mother nature and that we are completely to blame for glaciers that have been around for thousands of years melting i suppose they beleive no melting ever took place before we had cars and planes and tvs
southerntrucker42069 5 months ago
where does it go?
aba2185 5 months ago
@aba2185 To China. It will MAKE A MAAAAN OUT OF YOOOOU!
iloveflapjacks 5 months ago
That looked like a summer shot, what does it look like in the winter boys?
fudgedogbannana 5 months ago
@fudgedogbannana frozen.
flexrification 4 months ago
many people dont realize the u.s. government could be causing climate changes using HAARP and weather warfare.....
1123359 6 months ago
@1123359 No
Dnovo09 5 months ago
those are climate scientits? LOL
Skandalos 6 months ago
@Skandalos
did you expect them to be wearing Armani and talking about stocks and shares? No those guys are causing global warming.
bellestarr71 5 months ago
@bellestarr71 umm what does science have to do with armani and stocks?
To be honest, I never expected our "climate scientists" to be anything scientific. I expected them just like they show in this video: biased, ideologically blinded child-heads. I just didnt expect their retardedness to be that obvious.
Skandalos 5 months ago
wanna prevent melting? live like a caveman so u can do it...=.=
imhanppl 6 months ago
If you want it to stop melting...stop walking on it! Stop going there and making coffee and riding in vehicles and aircraft.
jxzzc2sp 6 months ago
Data from between 2003 and 2008 shows an average trend of 195 cubic kilometers per year. Total ice on Greenland is 2.85 million cubic kilometers.
This means if this melting trend continues, all of the Greenland ice will melt in 14,5 thousand years.
So, why is the urgency?
judomagyar 6 months ago
@judomagyar before greenland dissapear into water completely alot of countries around the world will be flooded.
1qazzaq17 6 months ago
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judomagyar 6 months ago
@1qazzaq17 so lets say, 10% of the Greenland ice melts in 1000 years. So?
I promise you, that we will run out of fossil fuels long before that.
We should not demonize CO2!
judomagyar 6 months ago
@judomagyar
I can't believe this silly crap! Like this doesn't happen every frickin' summer on the Greenland icecap! In the summer of 1888, Fritdjof Nansen's first crossing expedition found their way frequently obstructed by meltwater rivers.
pinz2022 5 months ago
is that water drinkable?
floridaman2000 7 months ago
@floridaman2000 Yup... some of the best water you could drink!
Dnovo09 5 months ago
feel like drinking the water looool
malton89 7 months ago
i think that sun is not only the factor of the ice meltdown.it could be that the lava underground has raised up and it heats up the crust and the crust is heating the glaciers.
piotrziec 7 months ago
fak...they got balls...that rope snaps...bye bye forever...no fucken rescue...you die in a cold and dark abyss...ooooooo
utginoxd3 7 months ago
I personally believe in unsustainable development.
isocrate27 7 months ago
I could take a shot every time i get the blue screen of death that i gave up on troubleshooting. Id be wasted and not so pissed. uhhh oxymoron haha.
7255202 8 months ago
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Entropian2012 8 months ago
No Greenland
klaidasv 8 months ago
The narator said that greenland according to the waterloss calculation is loosing enough water per year to cover Germany 1 meter deep, but how much is being replaced by snow fall?? he never mentioned that part...Maybe the vikings will return and grow crops there.... this isnt a new event
OtagoMark 8 months ago
why aren't we harvesting this fresh water?
skeight976 9 months ago 2
@skeight976 There are some water bottling companies that actually harvest ice from icebergs, but I think glaciers are too remote to make a practical profit from.
PotadoTomado 8 months ago
that is just crazy
skeight976 9 months ago
i wanna go tubing down that current.
hitler937 9 months ago
this person its a shouldn't be alive
ZenghinSmecheras 9 months ago
" NASA DECLARED 2009 WAS MINIMUM SOLAR YEAR: Green Land Glacier Deiceing during March 5, 2009. IT IS NOT SUN OR CO2 BUT CON: DE-ICERS. BY Capturing De-icers from BAFFIN BAY THE PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED . "
narayananraveen 10 months ago
Well i only graduated 6th grade??? But I remember from my science class that water falls at 32 ft per second per second so I just figure that it would have a constant speed at the very steep ange this wastful idiot was mesuring it . Then I was riding in my stroller and I noticed that when I did not hold my pin wheel 90 degrees to the wind it turned at a different speed. I guess this rocket scientist never had a pin wheel?? Im sorry he risked his life for the usless data? let go of the rope!
VFiveVs 10 months ago
This video is built upon conjecture & unsustainable notions that do not make any sense whatsoever. Who wrote the script-- Al Gore???
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano your argument is built upon propaganda.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense And you're telling me that people like Al Gore, who know NOTHING about global warming & science in general, are not propagandists? He's made millions of $ off of fools like you who buy into this nonsense. He also drives around in a gas-guzzling SUV & maintains a huge mansion in Tennessee that thrives off of fossil fuel.
Environmentalism has become a religion with people like you. Got to go now. Rush Limbaugh's coming on Then, I'm lighting the barbecue in the back yard.
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano i've never watched the gore video. i do all of my research using search engines like ebscohost, sciencedirect, springerlink etc. But let me get this straight. Is your argument, "Al Gore is a hypocrite, therefore global warming isn't real."??? Because that would be very weak. I tell my children to eat broccoli because its healthy. I don't eat broccoli. Using your logic, my hypocrisy makes broccoli unhealthy.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense You completely missed the point. Scientists on the other end of the spectrum contend that the earth goes through cyclical trends of warming & cooling that have nothing to do with pollution caused by human beings. A lot of people associate hot weather with earthquakes & during a heat wave they often call it "earthquake weather." Protecting the environment is important, but must be within reason. Check out Penn & Teller's "Bull Shit" segment on environmentalism on YT.
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano The earth does go through cyclical trends triggered by Milankovitch cycles. The effects from Milankovitch cycles and solar irradiance and earthquake outputs and all the other natural forcings are easily measured. They are nowhere near enough to count for the current warming and happen over longer periods. I think Penn & Teller should stick to magic comedy and leave environmental science to experts. If you can't produce credible sources of information, we are done.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense Again, you miss the point. Why should Penn & Teller stick to magic & allow experts to talk science? When they are right about something, must they have to have a Phd for their point to be valid? Did you bother to watch that segment of P & T, or are you one of those people who are only impressed by a person's credentials?
Why don't you write P&T & tell them how to manage their magic act, since you seem to know more than they do about everything. Go on, tell them what you think!
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano OK, I watched several of their youtube videos. At no point did they produce one shred of scientific evidence to suggest AGW isn't real. They dug up one disgruntled "ecologist" who himself, didn't actually disput AGW but talked about the hijacking of some environmental groups by anti-corporate types. Still no science. I get electricians to rewire my house, doctors to diagnose health problems, and magicians to do magic. Credentials are important. cont...
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense And who do you hire to make intelligent decisions for you? There are lots of doctors out there who practice medicine with credentials, but don't know what they're doing. They're called quacks. Michael Jackson hired one. You find them all over. So much of your environmental bull shit is nothing but junk science & YOU know it. People buy into such nonsense out of ignorance. That's what Penn & Teller is about. They don't pretend to be scientist. They expose BULL SHIT. Comprende?
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano I see, so if they are credentialled they are quacks but if they aren't they are worthy of listening to. Like I said, if all you have is propaganda to argue against science than we are done. Propaganda is the tool of the ignorant and if you don't even know that than you are more ignorant than you already appear and as dumb as a box of rocks to boot. P&T exposing BS is propaganda you muppet.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense Penn & Teller would have a field day with a guy like you! The only way you can win an argument is to be derisive & rotten. You can't stay focused & revert to generalizing when you run out of ammo. You spend your Friday nights writing bull shit on YT when you ought to be partying. Good Night! Got things to do!
unclejuniorsoprano 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano and as for telling Penn & Teller how to manage their magic act? I wouldn't do that because magic acts are not my area of expertise. I know what my limitations are. Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there who are too stupid to recognise what they don't know and go off talking about things they don't really understand. Now if Penn & Teller could sit in front of the camera with no dramatic music and editing and just dispute whatever they are disputing with straight...
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@unclejuniorsoprano .. and facts, I might be convinced that they know what they are talking about but only then if they listed their credible sources at the end. The fact thet you are relying on magician youtube videos for your scientific assessment of climate change demonstrates that you, like so many of your ilk are too stupid to know your limitations within this subject matter. The fact that propaganda is your only weapon reinforces this. We are done.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
What planet are they living on? The troposphere today is 0.86 degrees celcius colder than this day last year. The Pacific Ocean is cooling and there are at present fourteen active volcanoes. America has just had one of its harshest winters. Trust your senses.
david222444 10 months ago
@david222444 references please?
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense Smithsonian active volcanoe report + AMSU data
david222444 10 months ago
@david222444 peer reviewed reference please or at least provide a link to your source.
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago
@uknowispeaksense go find them youself but watch out, there is a lot of fraudulent data out there. Watch Climategate'Hide the decline' explained by prof Richard A Muller on youtube . Peer reviewed or pals reviewed?
david222444 10 months ago
@david222444 Yep, watched it.Jus thave to wonder though, why hedidn't go indpeth into why the tree ring data is no longer reliable? Do you know? Its very simple and has to do with changed rainfall patterns. When you compare the tree ring data to no less than 15 other proxies including isotope data from coral cores, ice core data etc etc as well as the temperature data it is the only one out of whack. The thing is, in their paper, they actually mention that they have done it! Read the thing....
uknowispeaksense 10 months ago