@pokerface206 This is my native country but not my ancestor's native country. By the way Africa is a continent not a country and I'm Afro-Latino which is due to the diaspora.
Don't forget that Mexico also helped African Americans during slavery and Jim Crow. So the help went both ways. Slavery has no effect. Jim Crow does. Slavery occurred in many nations, but not Jim Crow. You rarely find people here living in conditions as bad ias poor areas in Latin America, though. Slavery in Africa did carry through families. Not just indenture. On the rest, I agree for the most part.
It is. But we are talking to a Black American so I am going by his perception. Don't forget, Many self identified Black Americans are still Creole as well.
@Salsassin Oh ok! LOL this dude is actually of Puerto Rican and Trinidadian descent lol! Not Black American, although he identifies as Black though lol! Yeah true I hear you about perception! Oh really? There are Creoles who identify as Black American and vice versa? Interesting, so you are saying many Black Americans are also Louisiana Creoles as well?
Blacks is usually referring to African Americans though. People tend to use more specific ethnic terms for the rest of the diaspora. Immigration has nothing to do with nations. It just means to move from one place to another. The Mende and Olmec have nothing to do with each other. Olmec were Native.
To completely forget the past is impossible and wrong. Homage should still be paid to those enslaved blacks who fought to make America what it is. We're not just gonna forget Abraham Lincoln because he's dead, right? But in the same regard, too many BP use black slavery as a crutch. You can't move forward if u live in the past.
between 5:00 and 10:00 you mention "african americans" Another joke! you are africans! asians or europeans linving in America do NOT call themselves asian american, or auropean american. Are you ashamed of calling yourself just africans?
First off we don't just call ourselves African because it's like saying "I'm North American" or "Antarctican". Africa is a gigantic continent with many types of people, customs, and cultures which is why saying that you're African does not truly speak on who one is. In addition, the American is added because the African who were brought here have developed their own culture. So to remove America from our denonym is to deny ourselves...it has nothing to do with shame.
between :01 and 5:00 you state that the Olmecs were black. hahaha what a JOKE!! stop being culture thieves. you africans have a history but your history in the americas begun when the spaniards put you in slave ships and brought you to this side of the earth.
Maybe you didn't hear clearly but I never stated that the Olmecs being Black is a fact. I just said that THERE IS EVIDENCE that suggests that they were. If you have to put words in other's mouth in order to try make a point it not only shows that you lack intellectual integrity...it also shows that you cannot refute the information at hand so therefore you must create something in which you can.
Everyone in the american continent IS A DESCENT OF IMMIGRANTS,no matter if you were brought by force or by will,if anyones ancestors came from another continent then they are the CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS,the only people that ARE NOT immigrants are the NATIVE AMERICANS AND THEIR OFFSPRINGS, this is a TRUTH many descents of immigrants choose to ignore,whether people want to accept that or not,AMERICA REMAINS A STOLEN LAND cause natives never gave permission to foreigners to come here.
Like I said in the video...an immigrant is someone who migrates from one country to another. African slaves didn't migrate from one country to another because there was no country here to migrate too. In addition, using your logic Native Americans are immigrants too because their ancestors came from Africa.
Native americans DID NOT come from africa, NOR did they come from ASIA like many want to portray, these are nothing but eurocentric and negrocentric assuptions, there is NO TRUTH BEHIND THAT, NATIVES AMERICANS are what they are, NATIVES TO THIS CONTINENT or else why would they be called natives if they weren't native to this land? an immigrant is someone who migrates from a land to another land whether it be by will or by force, blacks ARE the decents of immigrants whether you acept that or not
It's pretty much accepted in the science community that life started in Africa so unless you come up with some substantial proof stating otherwise you really have no legs to stand. So like I said...if the origin of your ancestors determine your native land then the Native's are too immigrants.
There is NO TRUTH what so ever in science that supports that native american roots began in africa nor that they came from asia,like I said once before,these are nothing but NEGROCENTRIC AND EUROCENTRIC ASSUPTIONS,however there is science that supports evidence that the indigenous people of the americas are as old as the egyptians and africa itself,although they share some similarities,they still come from different bloodlines,there is no proof they they evolved from one another
Present some credible studies that state with irrefutable proof that Homo Sapien Sapiens (Not a mispelling) originated from somewhere other than Africa. Also make sure that these studies address the fact that Scientists have found that all living humans link back to one woman (whose fossil they found in Africa} through Mitochrondrial DNA.
I'm not saying that africa isn't the mother of homosapiens BUT, there has also been evidence that the indigenous people of the americas are as old as egyptians and africa itself, meaning that there is still a mystery that lies in the orgins of native americans, scientists haven't been able to prove or conclude the mysterious roots of their existence because they were existing at the same time africa existed, everything else are just assumptions of where they originated
and just because this land wasn't "a nation" at the time, it doesn't mean it didn't have owners of it's own, that didn't give ANY FOREIGNER THE RIGHT TO INVADE, even though black slaves didn't have a choice and were brought here by the europeans, they still came from another continent, therefore that makes them immigrants, this country was built by immigrants, NOT ONLY BY BLACK IMMIGRANTS but by many other immigrants,IGNORANCE CAN BE VERY DARING WHEN IT COMES TO GRATIFYING ONES RACIAL ARROGANCE!
you need to go do some REAL deep research about the TRUE historical ROOTS of this land, seems to me that you are manipulated by the eurocentric mentality,your words pretty much support the colonialism and the holocuast that took place in this continent and you seem to accept the fact that it was ok that european immigrants did what they did as long as you can prove a point with the history that your people made here,AMERICAN HISTORY DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOUR PEOPLE ONLY,it goes way beyond that
Stop putting words in my mouth in order to make a point. I never condoned the actions of the Europeans at all and my words speak nothing to it. In addition, I never said that American History revolves around African-Americans only...once again you're making things up.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, I didn't say that you said anything about the actions of the europeans here in the americas, what I said is that your words SEEM TO PORTRAY THAT! and your words PORTRAY RACIAL ARROGANCE AS IF YOUR PEOPLE WERE THE ONLY VICTIMS OF SEGREGATION OR THE ONLY ONES WHO BUILTED THIS COUNTRY! go back and watch your own video and see for yourself, it portrays negrocentric arrogance and eurocentric ignorance
I used key-terms such as "sovereign" which shows that I respect the ownership that the Natives had of this land. In addition, I did not once even insinuate that African-Americans were the only victims of segregation and in fact I spoke the complete opposite. I clearly said that without civil rights we all would still be victims of America's racial history...you are the one who should watch the video again.
you also speak as if history began the minute europeans came over,well FYI,even though america wasn't "a nation"( which is a very eurocentric idea) it was still a land that had owners of it's own,people that had already created a culture,a civilization and an empire of it's own thousands and thousands of years before the whiteman came over,they had many years of history before any one came an invaded their land,so you need to change those eurocentric views cause you sound like an uncle tom
With this comment you have displayed your inability to comprehend the information that was presented in the video. I said "...it was a land mass with different tribes...each tribe had their own sovereignty...they had their own rules and regulations...and there was no singular government". None of my comments spoke to the opposite of what you just posted and you would know that if you listened carefully before you commented.
you talk about anger, well bro, the only angry people I've seen making IGNORANT VIDEOS about race is YOUR OWN PEOPLE! very few other races that makes these kinds of videos, the hispanic male and female that created that video that you are rebuttling seems to me they created it only to rebuttle the IGNORANCE of racial hate videos that YOUR BALCK PEOPLE CREATE! I don't see any anger when they speak in the video, but blacks are totally angry when they make videos like this, I see it all the time
This comment right here is the definition of ignorance in it's entirety. Not only do you put words in my mouth to try to make a point but you also generalize an entire race of people. To top it off you then begin to compare and contrast Hispanics and Blacks as if there is a difference between the two. Did you even watch the video before you commented? If you did it's obvious that you didn't comprehend it because these concepts were touched in them.
another thing you have to understand is that, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AMERICANS AND HISPANICS WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE THAT OR NOT! Hispanic IS NOT A RACE,IT IS A CULTURE and yes you are right when you say that hispanics are controversial because we do come in many bloodlines,but that doesn't mean that just because black hispanics are of the same bloodline as black americans,that they are the same,THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!CULTURE IS A WAY OF LIFE AND IT GOES WAY BEYOND GENES!
What you said in this comment is definitely true but you still cannot compare "Hispanics" and Blacks because there is no unified Hispanic race or culture. Filipinos, Marianians, and Guamanians are all Hispanic but they have next to nothing in common with Mexicans other than last names. Like I said, you cannot compare and contrast Hispanic with anything because Hispanic now is an all inclusive term to those who were conquered by Spain.
Besides, the term "hispanic" didn't even exist before the 80's,if you were mexican you were called a mexican,if you were cuban you were called a cuban,if you were PR you were called PR,etc...this term is a eurocentric term that was invented by the american government so that it served them better for political gain,it wasn't our idea to UNITE our spanish speaking ethnicities,it was the american governments idea,but yet we hispanics are still different culturally from americans regardless of race
I sit here and am listening to your video over and over, and I confirm that what I have said is true about your video, there is even a part where you almost call your ancestors immigrants but you hold off BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT"S TRUE THAT THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS! you have the nerve to sit there and judge these hispanic people on the video that you are rebuttling but yet you fail to EDUCATE YOUR OWN BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE MOSTLY THE ONES MAKING IGNORANT RACIAL VIDEOS! go educate them cause they need it!
@KamikazeLBC
I will try not to disturb your little fairytale with unicorns and rainbows allowing myself to cite you - "You wish this was true."
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L3gion3r 1 year ago
ur crazy bro lol this land isnt ur native home country!! ur land is africa point blank!! lol and u know it !! UR AFRICAN lol from africa!!
pokerface206 1 year ago
@pokerface206 This is my native country but not my ancestor's native country. By the way Africa is a continent not a country and I'm Afro-Latino which is due to the diaspora.
KamikazeLBC 1 year ago
Don't forget that Mexico also helped African Americans during slavery and Jim Crow. So the help went both ways. Slavery has no effect. Jim Crow does. Slavery occurred in many nations, but not Jim Crow. You rarely find people here living in conditions as bad ias poor areas in Latin America, though. Slavery in Africa did carry through families. Not just indenture. On the rest, I agree for the most part.
Salsassin 2 years ago
How did Mexico helped blacks during Jim Crow and slavery?
Please explain in detail.
More got more sense then those two dopes.
cleanface100 2 years ago
Underground Rail Road went all the way to Veracruz. Creoles also escaped to Veracruz. The Negro Leagues pushed many players to Mexico. Etc. Will PM
Salsassin 2 years ago
@Salsassin Since when are Louisiana Creoles black?
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09
Since Jim Crow.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin Oh! but hasn't that been reversed? I thought the days of Jim Crow were over? Hmm sounds more like one droppism rule to me!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09
It is. But we are talking to a Black American so I am going by his perception. Don't forget, Many self identified Black Americans are still Creole as well.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin Oh ok! LOL this dude is actually of Puerto Rican and Trinidadian descent lol! Not Black American, although he identifies as Black though lol! Yeah true I hear you about perception! Oh really? There are Creoles who identify as Black American and vice versa? Interesting, so you are saying many Black Americans are also Louisiana Creoles as well?
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09
SOme are, yes. Jim Crow had its effect all over the south.
Salsassin 1 year ago
Blacks is usually referring to African Americans though. People tend to use more specific ethnic terms for the rest of the diaspora. Immigration has nothing to do with nations. It just means to move from one place to another. The Mende and Olmec have nothing to do with each other. Olmec were Native.
Salsassin 2 years ago
To completely forget the past is impossible and wrong. Homage should still be paid to those enslaved blacks who fought to make America what it is. We're not just gonna forget Abraham Lincoln because he's dead, right? But in the same regard, too many BP use black slavery as a crutch. You can't move forward if u live in the past.
GogatsuGirl 2 years ago
between 5:00 and 10:00 you mention "african americans" Another joke! you are africans! asians or europeans linving in America do NOT call themselves asian american, or auropean american. Are you ashamed of calling yourself just africans?
IAmGodToYouDirtyRats 2 years ago
First off we don't just call ourselves African because it's like saying "I'm North American" or "Antarctican". Africa is a gigantic continent with many types of people, customs, and cultures which is why saying that you're African does not truly speak on who one is. In addition, the American is added because the African who were brought here have developed their own culture. So to remove America from our denonym is to deny ourselves...it has nothing to do with shame.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
between :01 and 5:00 you state that the Olmecs were black. hahaha what a JOKE!! stop being culture thieves. you africans have a history but your history in the americas begun when the spaniards put you in slave ships and brought you to this side of the earth.
IAmGodToYouDirtyRats 2 years ago
Maybe you didn't hear clearly but I never stated that the Olmecs being Black is a fact. I just said that THERE IS EVIDENCE that suggests that they were. If you have to put words in other's mouth in order to try make a point it not only shows that you lack intellectual integrity...it also shows that you cannot refute the information at hand so therefore you must create something in which you can.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
Everyone in the american continent IS A DESCENT OF IMMIGRANTS,no matter if you were brought by force or by will,if anyones ancestors came from another continent then they are the CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS,the only people that ARE NOT immigrants are the NATIVE AMERICANS AND THEIR OFFSPRINGS, this is a TRUTH many descents of immigrants choose to ignore,whether people want to accept that or not,AMERICA REMAINS A STOLEN LAND cause natives never gave permission to foreigners to come here.
aromadti 2 years ago
First off,
Like I said in the video...an immigrant is someone who migrates from one country to another. African slaves didn't migrate from one country to another because there was no country here to migrate too. In addition, using your logic Native Americans are immigrants too because their ancestors came from Africa.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
Native americans DID NOT come from africa, NOR did they come from ASIA like many want to portray, these are nothing but eurocentric and negrocentric assuptions, there is NO TRUTH BEHIND THAT, NATIVES AMERICANS are what they are, NATIVES TO THIS CONTINENT or else why would they be called natives if they weren't native to this land? an immigrant is someone who migrates from a land to another land whether it be by will or by force, blacks ARE the decents of immigrants whether you acept that or not
aromadti 2 years ago
It's pretty much accepted in the science community that life started in Africa so unless you come up with some substantial proof stating otherwise you really have no legs to stand. So like I said...if the origin of your ancestors determine your native land then the Native's are too immigrants.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
There is NO TRUTH what so ever in science that supports that native american roots began in africa nor that they came from asia,like I said once before,these are nothing but NEGROCENTRIC AND EUROCENTRIC ASSUPTIONS,however there is science that supports evidence that the indigenous people of the americas are as old as the egyptians and africa itself,although they share some similarities,they still come from different bloodlines,there is no proof they they evolved from one another
aromadti 2 years ago
Present some credible studies that state with irrefutable proof that Homo Sapien Sapiens (Not a mispelling) originated from somewhere other than Africa. Also make sure that these studies address the fact that Scientists have found that all living humans link back to one woman (whose fossil they found in Africa} through Mitochrondrial DNA.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
I'm not saying that africa isn't the mother of homosapiens BUT, there has also been evidence that the indigenous people of the americas are as old as egyptians and africa itself, meaning that there is still a mystery that lies in the orgins of native americans, scientists haven't been able to prove or conclude the mysterious roots of their existence because they were existing at the same time africa existed, everything else are just assumptions of where they originated
aromadti 2 years ago
and just because this land wasn't "a nation" at the time, it doesn't mean it didn't have owners of it's own, that didn't give ANY FOREIGNER THE RIGHT TO INVADE, even though black slaves didn't have a choice and were brought here by the europeans, they still came from another continent, therefore that makes them immigrants, this country was built by immigrants, NOT ONLY BY BLACK IMMIGRANTS but by many other immigrants,IGNORANCE CAN BE VERY DARING WHEN IT COMES TO GRATIFYING ONES RACIAL ARROGANCE!
aromadti 2 years ago
you need to go do some REAL deep research about the TRUE historical ROOTS of this land, seems to me that you are manipulated by the eurocentric mentality,your words pretty much support the colonialism and the holocuast that took place in this continent and you seem to accept the fact that it was ok that european immigrants did what they did as long as you can prove a point with the history that your people made here,AMERICAN HISTORY DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOUR PEOPLE ONLY,it goes way beyond that
aromadti 2 years ago
Stop putting words in my mouth in order to make a point. I never condoned the actions of the Europeans at all and my words speak nothing to it. In addition, I never said that American History revolves around African-Americans only...once again you're making things up.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
I'm not putting words in your mouth, I didn't say that you said anything about the actions of the europeans here in the americas, what I said is that your words SEEM TO PORTRAY THAT! and your words PORTRAY RACIAL ARROGANCE AS IF YOUR PEOPLE WERE THE ONLY VICTIMS OF SEGREGATION OR THE ONLY ONES WHO BUILTED THIS COUNTRY! go back and watch your own video and see for yourself, it portrays negrocentric arrogance and eurocentric ignorance
aromadti 2 years ago
I used key-terms such as "sovereign" which shows that I respect the ownership that the Natives had of this land. In addition, I did not once even insinuate that African-Americans were the only victims of segregation and in fact I spoke the complete opposite. I clearly said that without civil rights we all would still be victims of America's racial history...you are the one who should watch the video again.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
you also speak as if history began the minute europeans came over,well FYI,even though america wasn't "a nation"( which is a very eurocentric idea) it was still a land that had owners of it's own,people that had already created a culture,a civilization and an empire of it's own thousands and thousands of years before the whiteman came over,they had many years of history before any one came an invaded their land,so you need to change those eurocentric views cause you sound like an uncle tom
aromadti 2 years ago
With this comment you have displayed your inability to comprehend the information that was presented in the video. I said "...it was a land mass with different tribes...each tribe had their own sovereignty...they had their own rules and regulations...and there was no singular government". None of my comments spoke to the opposite of what you just posted and you would know that if you listened carefully before you commented.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
you talk about anger, well bro, the only angry people I've seen making IGNORANT VIDEOS about race is YOUR OWN PEOPLE! very few other races that makes these kinds of videos, the hispanic male and female that created that video that you are rebuttling seems to me they created it only to rebuttle the IGNORANCE of racial hate videos that YOUR BALCK PEOPLE CREATE! I don't see any anger when they speak in the video, but blacks are totally angry when they make videos like this, I see it all the time
aromadti 2 years ago
This comment right here is the definition of ignorance in it's entirety. Not only do you put words in my mouth to try to make a point but you also generalize an entire race of people. To top it off you then begin to compare and contrast Hispanics and Blacks as if there is a difference between the two. Did you even watch the video before you commented? If you did it's obvious that you didn't comprehend it because these concepts were touched in them.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
another thing you have to understand is that, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AMERICANS AND HISPANICS WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEE THAT OR NOT! Hispanic IS NOT A RACE,IT IS A CULTURE and yes you are right when you say that hispanics are controversial because we do come in many bloodlines,but that doesn't mean that just because black hispanics are of the same bloodline as black americans,that they are the same,THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!CULTURE IS A WAY OF LIFE AND IT GOES WAY BEYOND GENES!
aromadti 2 years ago
What you said in this comment is definitely true but you still cannot compare "Hispanics" and Blacks because there is no unified Hispanic race or culture. Filipinos, Marianians, and Guamanians are all Hispanic but they have next to nothing in common with Mexicans other than last names. Like I said, you cannot compare and contrast Hispanic with anything because Hispanic now is an all inclusive term to those who were conquered by Spain.
KamikazeLBC 2 years ago
Besides, the term "hispanic" didn't even exist before the 80's,if you were mexican you were called a mexican,if you were cuban you were called a cuban,if you were PR you were called PR,etc...this term is a eurocentric term that was invented by the american government so that it served them better for political gain,it wasn't our idea to UNITE our spanish speaking ethnicities,it was the american governments idea,but yet we hispanics are still different culturally from americans regardless of race
aromadti 2 years ago
I sit here and am listening to your video over and over, and I confirm that what I have said is true about your video, there is even a part where you almost call your ancestors immigrants but you hold off BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT"S TRUE THAT THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS! you have the nerve to sit there and judge these hispanic people on the video that you are rebuttling but yet you fail to EDUCATE YOUR OWN BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE MOSTLY THE ONES MAKING IGNORANT RACIAL VIDEOS! go educate them cause they need it!
aromadti 2 years ago
Great Response
Donpiff 2 years ago
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very nice response man, I wish people of color would understand that we are all the same. We need to stick together.
suavion 2 years ago