WTC Explosions Part 1

[theFEMAcampESCAPEE]

It just looks like some swamp gas to me.

[edbelfor2]

Also, reports of a 'third plane' hitting the south tower before it collapsed, it was on the radio that "Reported sounds of implosions was a third plane"

But there was no third plane, it was an implosion

This is from a non conspiracy video, go watch the Howard stern videos with audio, which you can also see implosions dispusring through the side

[cjmastablasta]

I`ve watched quite a few demolitions now and you don`t even always get the explosive plooms bursting out from the building which you can clearly see here. Suspicous indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arkidla]

if u lisen to a fire fighters report just b4 the building came down(he was in the stairwella) he was thrown up in the air by gush of wind.......its fuckin wind being forced so it blows out some of the windows .it looks like a demolition but it aint..al the firstplane hit higher up the tower meaning less pressure on the floors below the 2nd plane hit lower more weight hence it fell much quicker ..thats what i think anyway so many dickheads in america tryin to pull a fast one.

[RobWarrens]

That was a controlled demolition job.

[kevin604bc]

It would not allow air pressure many stories below the collapse, only right beneath it.

[thepowerhouse4u]

hey "kid", you must not be a student of basic physics. The towers were constructed as a "tube within a tube" and therefore air pressure would force matter out of the sides of each tower as the collapsed on themselves.

Are you really that ignorant?

1993 wtc attack should have educated you

[Aanthanur]

1993 wtc attack should have educated you

what exactly should have educated ud? the FBI onvolvment? or the sielence about the FBI involvement in the media?

[thepowerhouse4u]

Uh, yeah, Aan, they were foreign terrorists that brought down the towers. You can't debate me on this.

[Aanthanur]

no debate needed, its known that the FBI was indeed involved,

[thepowerhouse4u]

Please explain and provide evidence. You can't win this one. You are paranoid and in need of some facts. You need to provide facts, not opinion. Do you understand how this dialog works?

You provide facts.

We discuss those facts.

You provide opinion, there is nothing to discuss.

Period.

[muzicmaker2001]

I'd really like some understanding on how a building collapse can overturn and melt cars/firetrucks that were parked on the street?

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Smells like the force of an explosion coupled with extreme high temps to me.....

[slapnpopbass]

Nothing melted. The fires weren't that hot. They just weakened. Big difference.

[freein2339]

Air pressure does not look or sound like an explosives..

[elgiganto]

whats the name of track in backround?

[Goldiger100]

It was not such a good idea to change the coulour for marking the squibs!! But I am convinced

[biggahthebettah]

Why is your eyewitness testimony any more credible than the hundreds of firefighters' testimony?

[Savitta]

It was just the floors coming ontop of eachother how stupid do you have to be.

[muzicmaker2001]

I wish it was that simple. If it were so, this video wouldn't be posted right now. The point is this has never occured before or after 911 in the history of steel high rises. But, it simply happened 3 times on 911. Also, it logically doesn't make sense.

[biggahthebettah]

Even NIST, I believe, has abandoned the pancake theory of collapse. first of all, pancaking would have left the core intact...like the spindle of a record player. Second, the remains had no evidence of stacked floors whatsoever.

[PoetryHound]

bigga, check out w w w cooperativeresearch*org/entity­*jsp?entity=pablo_lopez_1 for a description of the rubble, including stacked floors as described by a Ground Zero ironworker. Heavily compacted but nevertheless stacked

[homeric9]

Now the damaged buildings. The neighboring buildings in the WTC complex were very close. The north tower being very close to the Washington,Greenwich & Barclay St. The south tower hugging Liberty & Church Sts. The dramatic damage was well documented on buildings on the inner core.

[homeric9]

But that dramatic damage in the core of the trade center dimished sharply when you travelled outside the core. There was no building damage from Nassau St. east to the river. Hudson St, north up Broadway there was no damage at all just considerable dust and small debris. Even the residences in and along Battery Place east and south only had dust and lightweight debris, no damage. One bldg off W.Broadway had an object go through several floors and that was determined to be a plane part.

[muzicmaker2001]

Explain this. When the collapse begins, why is material hurled horizontally outward damaging neighboring buildings?? Where is gravity? In a "pancake" collapse, shouldn't material be trapped inside the floors, instead of being projected outwards?Also, why is all of the WTC concrete pulverized to dust. Even if you drop a concrete slab 1000 ft, it would turn to dust??

[homeric9]

We are moving on to debris movement without an answer to the conspiracy "squibs". I'm curious why damaged buildings in and around WTC are baffling? The floors fell first, gaining momentum and weight as the collapse progressed. Where is all the matter on each floor to go? It had to go somewhere Muzic and it did, it was shot of windows.

[muzicmaker2001]

I'll say it again if you want. The explosion(s) initiates the collapse. You can see squibs 10-20 below the demolition wave. You seriously think this is caused by compressed air? Was this building made of swiss cheese? There should have been some resistance from the undamaged floors slowing down the collapse. And again, the pulverized concrete dust is unexplainable logically under your theory.

[homeric9]

And again Muzik where is all the matter on each floor to go? Air and physical mass being compressed at 10flrs a second has to travel somewhere. Because this compression exited the building in various areas as opposed to being uniform (floor by floor) you're suspiscious.

[muzicmaker2001]

This is supposedly a "pancake" collapse. Some of the matter (chairs, computers, desks) should be trapped. Look at my video posted "911 Ground Zero Aftermath." There should be something left from these massive 110 story office buildings, but there is nothing but steel and concrete dust.

[homeric9]

In terms of resistence you have to stop and think about how the floors were constructed and attached to the load bearing facde and central core. You have seen the construction videos Muzik, the core and facade were held in unison by the floors. When the top of tower 1 gave and collapsed thats millions of pounds of building, hundreds of thousands of pds of bldg debris not to mention the added weight of the plane. What do you think the floors were capable of holding?

[muzicmaker2001]

homeric9, you're forgetting about the 4" thick steel core columns that were the strength of the WTC. I will play into your fairy tale and say that 110 floors all gave in and came down in free falling speed, but what about the 47 columns in the middle of WTCs??

[homeric9]

How were these columns constructed Muzic? How did they connect to each other? The tone of your response suggests that the floors and load bearing facade could have collapsed but when the dust settled we should have been looking at 70/80 stories of steel columns rising?

[Woolies2007]

The floors were falling onto each other, vertically, and everything in between, people, desks, glass...everything, was being blown horizontally outwards, cos that was air does when it being compressed, it's blows out.

[homeric9]

But again Muzic these "squibs" come as the tower is falling, not before. All the videos on the topic show squibs first then a collapse. There are no videos showing squibs with the prolonged intensity that the WTC showed. Loose Change, being so often quoted is riddled with mistakes both technically and culturally. I say that after I did research into the allegations it gave.

[cmacbrown]

yah and so would explosives

[jonyknoxvil]

Compressed air would create such explosions easily

[delliejonut]

actually no it wouldn't, from 30 stories below. especially when the "squibs" are coming from the corner of the building, where there are no windows for air to blow out of.