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  • David Cameron is a fascist.

  • Wake up TED.

    Search youtube for the following:

    1)The Story of Your Enslavement

    2)The Manual of Human Ownership

    3)The Short, Unhappy Lives of Fiat Currencies

    4)The Social Contract: Defined and Destroyed in under 5 mins

    5)The Proof of Anarchy

  • @eyejudgeeverything I don't think anything TED associated is sleeping.

  • the only people making money are bloody mp's and brussels dosent pay them we do

  • lol wont listen to his bullshit,he is a marksist,a bilderberg,and a trator to the UK people,selling us to germany,forght 2 wars to stop that,and this fucker and others before him should be tried for treason

  • Isn't it hilarious how these guys can always find money to go and fight other peoples wars! If they got out of Afganistan and Iraq, and now Egypt., And if they stopped giving the taxpayers money to all these illegal immigrant benefits. There would be plenty for our pensioners who built the country.

  • umm, might be time to modernize your infographics.. (yawn)

  • Notice how many times he says "YOU are doing/did this" instead of US - clearly illustrating the mentality of politicians as separate from the remaining public. Sad...

  • Someone should make him Prime Minister

  • @joecool641 oh the lolz

    

  • If David Cameron loves America so much maybe he should do us all a favour and move there.

  • so there were 2 auditoriums with one having the Brit CP member and the other next door watching it on a projector. Sucks to be the people who payed just as much money to watch him next door on tv instead of live. lolz

    im guessing NO ONE caught that

  • Don't listen to David Cameron he doesn't earn any money except for his wages and the occasional free tvs the people in society pay for he's helping the banks earn more & when he's stepped down from Politics he will be working for the banks fulltime, I for one think that we all shouldn't listen to a word this man says as the financials terms for the poorer are and will remain incorrigible doesn't matter what politicans there is.

  • I didn't vote this imbecile in, I don't know anyone who did... get this bootlicking, war mongering, fascist out of power and bring in a real Democratic People's Republic so i can have a say in mine and the UK's future not some public school boy who's silver spoon is still planted firmly in his ass.

  • @VoxJoxx You realize the fate of any nation with the words Democratic and People's in it don't you?

  • the only way I would be interested in anything a politician has to say would be if he supported the Venus project and a Resource Based Economy

  • @peterjol Because you're into fiction and the associated belief that eliminating money and trade to eliminate crime is like eliminating language and oxygen to eliminate insults?

  • he is lying... his face expressions say that he is lying... everytime he talks about the people control lines appear above his forehead and when at 4.33 he he mentions people control his lips bend downwards which means he is not sure of what he is talking about...

  • David Cameron? Why not, I loved Avatar!

  • I like how he uses the US as an example of transparency. Really, all this does is inform you to be upset about things... and gets you to believe what the conservatives have been saying for years... which is that govt. doesn't work. They then have been taking that message as a cause for deregulation... which has caused us to be increasingly fucked. Just look at what has happened when cities have sold infrastructure to private firms.

  • That was a wonderful speech.

  • What will David Cameron have in common with Nick Clegg's wife by the end of the weekend? They'll both know what Nick Clegg's cock tastes like.

  • True and he makes a ton of more sense.

  • Whats wrong with people today, President Kennedy said "ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country"... All people talk about in Britain is "Why are my benefits being cut?", "Why are the torys doing this"... For god sake you moaned for ages about how crap Labour was, how they fucked up Britains economy but when change finally comes you still have the cheek to complain!

  • If the British hand over Wikileaks' Assange to the U.S.A, through which Assange will get a very very long prison sentence, then our proposal is to boycott British products!

    Do not buy British financial products. No British oil! No Shell! Do not buy BP oil (for more than one reason). Get somewhere else a telecom provider and drop Vodafone. No English food. No Unilever!

    Go on holiday to anywhere, but the U.K. Go outside the U.K. on holiday to recover from U.K.'s behavior!

  • Tbh theres no difference between him & criminals it's just legal for him to do it infront of peoples very faces.

  • "long beach and everywhere else and all these secret locations"

    Which ones and why did he mention secret locations at this talk?

  • We need a big change in all governments, someone just has to get it started.

    Get rid of the banks, but that is the hard part. Do you think the banks want this to happen. And since the banks run thing's then its not going to happen. The someone who needs to start this need to tell the banks to go fuck themselves. It will cause a world of shit for this generation but the next ones will have worked it out without the banks. Time to get started.

  • Their throats are opened graves

    they use their tongues to deceive

    The venom of vipers is under their lips

    Romans 4:13

  • I love his accent ;p

  • Yes Mr. Cameron, do not forget about the "Accountabillity" part of your talk when your party is up for re election. You do not seem to understand that us poor people can also look up "Shafting the poorer people in society" on the internet as well as NHS, Police, government contracts and the MP expenses scandal.

  • Would you trust a room full of politicians to manage your own personal budget? YOUR paycheck. YOUR bills. YOUR needs and desires? Deciding HOW your money should be spent, and trusting them to use it WISELY? Just your own budget of a few thousand dollars, pounds, euros, or what have you? Would you trust them?

    NO?!?

    Then why on earth do we trust them with TRILLIONS of our dollars, controlled under threat of imprisonment? Psychologists have a word for this: "delusion".

  • Honor? That's the last thing I think of when I think of The TED talks.

    We have run out of money? Try again, the bankers (gangsters) have created every bubble since the greatest depression. We know who brought on this financial collapse, it's the same ones offering up A solution, Globalism. A one world government run of by and for the banks. Who is the we he keeps referring to? His globalist slave masters that's who. Anyone who buys into this needs to have their heads checked. Globalism=fraud.

  • No politics: The Venus Project

  • A campaign talk. Really? He makes me uneasy on so many levels. Creepy. WTF, TED?

  • JOLLY GOOD ILL GET MYSELF OFF TO TED DO A GOOD OLD TALK WHAT WHAT OH I NEED SOMETHING TO JOLLY WELL TALK ABOUT DO I? NO WORRIES OLD BOY ILL JUST SMASH TOGETHER A FEW SLIDES WHAT WHAT AND BOB'S YOUR UNCLE! JOLLY GOOD JOLLY GOOD NOW OFF TO SHAFT THE POOR

  • Yeah, do away with bureaucracy .i.e. do away with democratically accountable representatives of the people and replace it with fascist corporatism. Notice the demonisation of politicians. Will they be doing away with the bureaucracy of the global private central banks manufacturing debt from thin air and taxing us to pay the interest and not allowing us to use alternative money systems or even the government actually issuing the money as proper accountable representatives of the people?

  • @effluxide I could be wrong, but the tone of your comment seems as though you support bureaucracy and politicians. Is that true?

    I feel justified in demonizing politicians AND corporatism AND phony-money central banking systems. Bear in mind that we have parts B and C BECAUSE of part A.

  • LOL, whats he mean there's not enough money. money is created through debt and his debt clock is rocketing up. truth is they make money out of thin air, backed by jack. banks made up as much derivatves as they wanted decided they wanted real money instead. went to the govt. who made up as much money as they wanted and are now asking the people to pay for it, making them go bankrupt in the process. dont worry when they have collected their due, peasants might get a small slice of the pie. mayBEe

  • @808hawk oh i'm sure its much more complex than that dear boy.

  • There are far too many cynical people on here spreading their anti-politics doom and gloom "all-politicians-are-the-same" messages. In the last 2000 years, politics and political systems are the only thing that match up to scientific discovery in driving civilisation forward!

  • Bloody muppet

  • Nearly the whole of this conference is based on the use of N.L.P. to push the agenda research it people this guys brain washing you.... look into the eyes kenny ken

  • @abercromby1000 oh please, you make it sound like some sort of underground conspiracy. If you are assigning the NLP establishment & practices to any speech / conversation where persuasive language is used then you are giving NLP too much credit!

  • my translation, "average joe can live on good will and mongbeams, i'll privatise and concentrate all your social services in the hands of the aristocracy and landed gentry as they go around and buy up all your local solutions and begin jackin up the price. they will become joe's new feudal over lords and joe can work for them in his/her local little hamlet for bread and water. but dont worry, they'll have all the information they need if they have enough electrical power to run a computer."

  • @anthroprogenius

    Sounds about right.

  • One TEDtalk that I didn´t enjoy. This is REAL politician talk. All things are well known by common sense, non of them is new, non of them is original, non of them proposes anything except for "what we need to do" but not "how we are going to do it". Pass on this TEDtalk and keep in mind that this is a bad example of MANY good examples.

  • An English person living or visiting overseas habitually says;"I'm from England",not"I'm from the UK" in order to distinguish himself or herself from the Scots,and the welsh who also are from the UK.

  • If that David Cameron bloke takes peoples money and makes people live of bread crumbs then i think he'll be killed in 1month. Chavs will stab him. Everyone would be happy then and chavs will be praised! Making cut backs in money for what? He should go fuck a duck

  • You'll never get what you want.

  • Nothing noticable will change under these.

  • i thought ted was suppose to be political independent. but i guess the conservatives own more then we think.

  • @greenplantnorth Gordon Brown did a TED talk too.

  • I hope that the British people will not buy this shit. We need REAL socialdemocrats in the world. (I do not support the Blair/Schröder course). Thatcherism has failed.

  • Rubbish, we're still in a super bureaucratic age. Where is his evidence people are in control. That's Cameron's problem , he gives no evidence for anything, and no viable alternatives just over-idealistic ideas.

  • "Change", "New ideas", blah blah fucking blah. This idiot wont change anything, and the serious issues that are top of the agenda just dont get discussed. Many, many people want OUT the EU, OUT Afghanistan, and an END to this ludicrous unchecked immigration. If this liberal weakling embraced just ONE of these policies he would walk away with a landslide victory.

    FAKE conservative, FAKE policies. Oh and I almost forgot, hes a LIAR too.

  • Lame. Kinda disappointed of TED

  • nwo will rule all govs if they dont already 1world comi government is coming

  • keep the libreal clegg out he only wants us to get the euro give up our laws to europe and let illegal immgrants have passports fucking idiot

  • quite good idea.........

  • David Cameron is so false just like the colour of his hair .. he was born in 1966

    not a grey hair in sight .. anyway isn't it time politics changed ...

    i mean they sit and scoff at about there policies and we know both parties are stealing public funds by sitting in the house of commons doing nothing

    no alternative to labour and Tories what a waist of a future for the uk

  • @guitaneman VOTE UKIP

  • Has there ever been a mouth so full of shit in the history of the world

  • It's gonna be hell to be a police officer, or anything actually..

  • I heard Beth Noveck speak in March and she's already putting a lot of these ideas to work for the Obama administration's Open Government initiative. If you're interested in how technology and the Internet can transform government, I'd recommend listening to some her talks or reading her book Wiki Government.

  • He actually looks a bit like Data from Star Trek

  • @simpleblob : Ahhh - he looks like an automaton!? There's a shock! ;o)

  • @simpleblob he looks like a pile of shit on shoulders

  • @simpleblob He looks like a cabbage patch kid

  • @simpleblob He's just as smart.

  • Actually it would seem the internet has eliminated the need for representatives all together. We could vote on every law from our homes at night. We don't someone to do it for us, you've proven it sir. Now go find a real job.

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  • This is a rich mans son who had a rich mans upbringing, complete with a nanny.

    His education was firstly the Heatherdown private school, then to Eton, then to Oxford.

    After leaving Oxford he went directly to working for the Tory party, where he has been ever since,

    He has never had a proper job or had to earn his own living, what the hell does he know about ordinary people? Nothing.

    The rubbish on his nauseating web site inuduces vomiting.

    A shallow non streetwise man.

  • @bill24777 What do you think of Nigel Farage?

  • @bill24777

    Lol... ever heard of inverse snobbery?

    What you're saying is, he's very well educated, new exactly what career he wanted to enter after graduation, and has remained very committed to his work, to the point that he has achieved the highest position in the party.

    I'm not some Tory lover, but your critisism is illogical, in my opinion.

    By the way, what is an "ordinary" person?

  • can't take him serious, because we're all still recovering from the Neoconservatism of Bush/Cheany/Rumsfeld.

  • fuck off cameron your part of the fucking problem

    transparency???

    yeah like your major donor being non dom?

    accountabilty yeah like tony not being prosecuted for war crimes

    like david kelly's death being kept secret for 70 years ?

    your full of shit

    cunt!!!!

  • And going 'with the grain of human nature', the conservatives have a very specific philosophical model of human nature drawn from behavioural economics that emphasises 'negative freedom. It is based on the assumption that we all have equal opportunities and should only be protected from obstacles to our self-realization and abhors any form of democratic intervention in what we all knows is a structurally unequal society.

  • Why on earth was this man invited to give a speech to these self-proclaimed 'great minds'? Its just a torrent of new rhetorical devices for conveying the same anti-social political philosophy that the Tories and Republicans have advocated for decades. Its all good to say that you are going to de-layer public bureaucracies, promote people power and local control but what good is it when your explicit goal is to remodel public services based on a consumer-choice model?

  • @MrDerekdoom first Mr doom, being a liberal implies being tolerant, even (especially) to those whos ideas we disagree.

    Second, you'll learn that not all who agree with stupid ideas are stupid, idiotic or dishonest, and that even those who are stupid, idiotic or dishonest can, at times, be reasonable

    At this point Mr doom, I hope I managed to explain you that anyone can attend at TED, since everyone is able to have a unique, worth watching or listening, idea, thought or talent.

  • @VDiver1910 And finally Mr doom, I'm not of the conservative party, I'm not english, I would be - for your standards - a liberal. I have watched many videos here about TED and TED, for what i understand, are not people who proclaim themselves «great minds» they just like to hear interesting points of view, ideas, new of the world of technology and science, talents, etc. Maybe the common redneck doesn't have such interests, but is having a place like this asking too much?

    And last: Buz off!

  • Well sorry, I've just laughed my tits off at this charleton's attempt at gravitas. What a turd.

    The first thing that struck me was CMD's appearance...in the tieless Islamic style. Right on Ahmed. Another thing, why is the brain depicted as a foetus ? UNDERSTANDING OF PEOPLE ? Not half Dave.

    gocompare's logo looks familiar. A virtual pint to whoever got this one. (The post-democratic, sorry bureaucratic crack should help).

    Dave is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Mission accomplished.

  • This is a great idea, this if used properly really will help to make the world a lot more equal and government more transparent and account... but only if used correctly

  • He'll say anything just to get votes but won't keep his promises. He backed down over the Lisbon Treaty. These guys are just Theatre Puppets who sell us short to Big Business. As soon as they get elected they start making things easy for their sponsors. Tony Blair getting £2 Million per year from JP Morgan, Barack Obama employing Wall St Lobbyists after they paid for his campaign. The whole con game is rife.

  • @globalbankfraud YUP. Everything you said is absolutely, and always has been really true. Cameron is just a new face for the same corrupt game.

  • @globalbankfraud Cameron isn't lying here. He is basically talking about reducing spending on public services, that's pretty much a conservative guarentee. Tony Blair could do whatever he wanted after leaving politics. So what if he's earning millions? Despite our personal desires, we couldn't leave the Lisbon Treaty without ejection from the EU. If you think that's the way to take Britain forward then you are not worth talking to!

  • @TomMackio I do think we should leave the EU because it is non democratic and a step closer towards Global Government. I agree with UKIP on the EU. I call Cameron a liar because he pretends to represent the British people but in reality he is already recruited by the Bilderberg Group. I am actually worth talking to and more open minded than you think.

  • @globalbankfraud

    I think I saw Cameron on that crime-map!! committing the crime of total bullshit!!!!!!!

  • @globalbankfraud You were right.

  • @globalbankfraud You're right hes a cunt and a hypocrite i remember when he was on a panel calling for the legalisation of cannabis before he was PM and as soon as he turns PM doesn't do anything about it and decides to make Cannabis a class B drug and you know why cos hes making money from the illegalisation of it hes a cunt makes all these promises and doesn't follow up they'll say anything to get in in the next election he'll make bolloxs promises but won't be true fuck Conservatives cunts.

  • @resilienceman Next time we all vote UKIP or at least none of the big 3. But don't wait till then bring the current government down. They are TRAITORS to the British people, allowing the banks to rob from us and stop lending; and giving away £45 MILLION to the EU criminals who write 70% of our laws and no-one elects them! The government are TRAITORS so don't play their game.

  • @globalbankfraud Mate you speak the truth and i'm sending you a friend request LOL.

  • @resilienceman Accepted. Have a look at my saved Favourites for the bigger picture and some excellent sources of info.

  • @globalbankfraud Obviously he was on a panel before he came Prime Minister wanting the legalization of cannabis and as soon as he makes Prime Minister he still want's it illegal that's cos then they and him get more money if it is stick with Labour most parties in the U.K are shit anyway.

  • @conservativesarescum Yeah, call that Panel the BILDERBERG Group, explains why he wants to invade Libya with the Yanks. Murderous scum! I'll vote UKIP next time but hopefully we'll have thrown out our TREASONOUS Government before then. If we wait 'till 2015 they'll literally be nothing left of the Britain we knew. If anyone waits for elections to solve our problems they need their head examining.

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  • ".. the grain of human nature" ???

    Information Technology is not gonna help us there!

  • Well said, David.

  • haha the bureaucratic images made me laugh, bureaucratic era was one big man (conservative) dominating the people, and his new 'ideal' when the picture moves, the people believe they are bigger, while secretly the big man is now hiding behind them. Regardless of the conservatives, never trust a politician, they're economists, businessmen and liars, we need to spread the wealth, not the responsibility. Conservatives have NEVER been interested in spreading wealth.

  • I though the Conservative Party is characterized by Noblesse oblige

  • This was actually a really good talk. I cant believe how zombie partisan everyone here is that they have to bash it just cause theyve been trained by the media to de-humanize anyone who doesnt agree with their own ideology. Turn off the talking heads on your TV and make your own decision for once.

  • @sojourner99

    That's the great irony.

    He's saying people now have the power and opportunity to change things, to take back their government, to truly control their own lives.

    And how do people respond to the talk? By putting their blinders & taking partisan stances or claiming the "other side" won't let it happen and blah blah blah.

    The irony is that people can finally take accountability for improving their own lives...but what if current system has been made people *too scared* to do so?

  • 15 minutes of bullshit equals one word = globalisation = think massive immigration in europe from third world so politicians and a few businessmans could get cheap money. and you cant do anything about it. except listen to this bullshit.

  • I just watched Gordon Brown's TED talk too, and let me tell you, he's deeper, smarter, funnier than this empty suit.

    Letting David Cameron in power would be a disgrace.

  • hm, so when governments are in charge of the health and general welfare of society the People are in power?

    don't believe this propagandist bullshit.

  • French idealism > Anglo Saxon pragmatism

  • See how he gets to the core at the end. He wants you to be aware that he is going to tax and police you for energy use when he doesn't even mention the really big energy users. Big Business. Hes going to use legislation just like the US to close down competition to globalisation.

    He's just a liar. Don't listen to him.

  • This Guy is a Liar, a hypocrite and a traitor to humanity. I hate to think what would happen to the UK if he got his hands on the reigns. I guess he would just hand it straight over to the Globalist elite who pay him and pull his strings.

    Not that the current prime minister is any better.

    Britain is a police state.

  • Why was David Cameron invited to give a campaign speech?

  • As Oscar Wilde said " wherever you have centralisation you have stupidity"

  • CHANGE OK DAVID START WITH YOUR SELF STOP CLAIMING £1,000 a mounth from the tax payer TO pay YOUR council tax and £800 a mounth to pay YOUR morgage from the tax payer aFTER ALL WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER ARE WE NOT

  • What the fuck is a politician going to fix? He's paid with stolen money. Don't listen to this fool or anyone else who claims to protect you while violently robbing you. Shame on TED. Where are the philosophers?! Where are the voluntaryists?!

  • @PhantaSci, i guess you haven't understood what he said. He wasn't talking of politcians, he was adressing you.

  • I may slightly disapprove of this idea of transferring more power to the people, depending on how it's done. We, the general public, are quite ignorant (although often highly opinionated) regarding most issues. I think we should be electing governments into power in the confidence that they can make difficult policy decisions for us, because most people just don't know what's best for them. I mean you wouldn't want an average person running the country.

  • then why elect one?

  • The government is supposed to serve the people. In this brave new world, the people serve the government, who serve the central banks.

    So, in essence people are not represented in government anymore.

    No offense intended but I think your statements are dangerous and easily prone to corruption.

  • Political Apathy is a concern, however a government ignoring it's people is the mark of corruption.

    We, the people, have been jaded by lack of change in government. Republicans vs. democrats, right vs. left, yadd ayadda, its like Coke vs. Pepsi. Different brand, same product(with minor and insignificant variations).

  • lmafa would not want an average person running the country ?? lol thats all they ever are gw bush is just one example of less than average running the country berlusconi is another putin von rumpoy of belgium difficult policy decisions ? what like how many cluster bombs should we buy with tax payers money? how many innocent children shall we allow to die in palestine? how many more guilts should we sell before we allow more money to be 'created'? whats wrong with average people running own lives
  • "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."

    I can pay higher taxes to give to my country.

  • Why is it most everyone views the world as being "problematic". the world moves as it should,no right, no wrong. The only problems in life are the ones you fabricate in your mind.

  • Global wariming??

  • You are so right shamansays, women in Africa getting their breasts cut off because they're nursing, little kids getting their limbs chopped off, child molesters raping, torturing and killing innocent children, invading countries and committing genocide for oil, etc. etc., it's all stuff the victims of these crimes "fabricated in their mind". Good philosophy idiot. Spoken like someone who has been sheltered and knows nothing of the world. I've witnessed some of these things in the Marine Corps.

  • These things you speak of are the very thing that give you something to compare the so called "good" life you may, or may not have. If these most unfortunate events didnt take place, there would be nothing to compare your flimsy life to. Thus making you feel as if there is problems in the world. The only place you might find "real" good or bad, is in ones intentions. Everything else is subjective

  • Brian Gerrish for PM.

  • The three main parties are controlled by the same ppl. BNP is the only option, we need to get out of the EU as soon as possible or face living in a police state.

  • I think it's got to be UKIP. They're the only party I hear actually telling the truth about the scams being pulled on us by the Financial Elite who control Government & the Mainstream Media.

  • UKIP are full of "Common Purpose" members, i wouldn't trust them.

  • SAME AS BNP

  • They're not the same as BNP

    Search Farage , Monckton , Bloom under my Favourites. They're the only Politicians I've heard tackling the real issues: corrupt bank bailouts, corrupt EU parliament, Carbon Tax Scam

  • they are all the same self proclaimed leaders and masters of the masses

    who have very little choice of who these so called leaders of political parties actually are

    who bank rolled ukip?

    who bankrolled BNP?

    who bankrolled the politicians who are actually talking about these issues?

    who bankrolled monkton when he was working for maggie?

    where does farage actually come from?

    just me but i don't trust anybody in the system cos they are living off the system which means they are part of the elite

  • they maybe making the right noises but i will not expect any change in policy

    we are the only ones who can make a difference in our own lives

    lawful peaceful rebellion

    peace

  • @roriniho. or you could kiss my arse and wind yer neck in, softlad...twat. cameron is a clueless toff who WILL NOT do any better than that fat gimp eyed scot, gordon brown. cameron is just all cheesy lines and hot air. keep labour but bin brown and i'm happy.

  • of course no tie means I'm one of you.....

  • The opening joke was ripped off from Hook: a kids movie.

    I think that sums up Cameron quite well, not a single original idea in a kids movie.

  • @iamnotapie Hook ripped the joke off too. Nothing wrong with reframing/retelling a joke - unless they are only supposed to be told once?

  • @darkpixel65 The joke was only the pretext for my actual point. I really don't care about the fact the joke was retold, if you'll read my entire post you will see what I was really saying.

  • At 1:12

    David Cameron confirmed for Cyberman.

  • @ Libertarian333

    Also, I believe your assumption that corporate tyranny couldn't survive without corporate welfare is unfounded. They would cut wages, outsource jobs, etc. All of which would be easy with no centralized state.

  • @ Libertarian333:

    So you believe the only way to do away with corporate welfare, the source of corporate tyranny, is to get rid of the state altogether? Sorry, I don't buy it. If there were DEMOCRACY and true empowerment of the people in the government, that itself would stop corporate welfare.

  • fuck you, cameron you useless toff wanker.

  • Alternatively, have an actual argument instead of a baseless opinion, prick.

  • ooh i like david cameron.. let me grab my gun, im going fox hunting.

  • Yep there's 32T in global debt but governments don't owe that money to martians, they owe it to each other. Governments are both a borrowers and a lenders, so if there is 32T in debt then there is also 32T in credit.

    The individual bugets of nations is what matters not some one sided global accounting that pushes a political barrow.

    But yeah, transparency is a GoodThingTM.

  • Not quite true - Governments owe it to central banks owned by private shareholder & anyone else who buys government bonds. If you follow the money, like any good detective, you'll come back to Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, IMF, the Rockerfeller's & Rothschild's etc. What we have is our compromised governments selling us as tax slaves to the financial elite or driving us into dire poverty.

  • Glossing over the fact that the upside he sees in the West's massive sovereign debt is the chance to bring RFK's dream to life - which he thinks it's easier now than ever, as if he hasn't been following the sociopolitical situation in the US - the guy comes right out and says "We are working with behavior modification scientists", like it's a jolly good idea anyone would love.

    How about we can the governments who bankrupt us? Then we won't need them to modify our behavior scientifically.

  • Somebody turned up the edge sharpening too much on this one.

  • @Vid

    It's a rare breed, someone who would actually sacrifice their time for other people. I don't honestly think there are many of those people in politics... Well Ronpaul comes to mind. But hes more the exception to the rule, rather than the standard.

  • its really funny how he claims to be a conservative, but his view is progressive ...

    So either he doesnt believe it himself or

    he's just a conservative because he wants to be a conservative just for beeing-on-that-side sake. He wants to a posh guy .... simple.

    (I figure he just bullshits as long as he gets where he wants :) )

  • yeah, i found him to be much more progressive than conservative; except his support of carrots and sticks to promote recycling... but that has been proven by behavioral economics so no objection here

  • @partyshock

    it could be simply a case of where he lives. Depending on history and politics the idealogical definition of conservative can change from country to country.

  • @thequietkid10

    i was talking about england

    and you??

    lol, depends on where you live ....

    were talkinbg about england , so noneed to imagine what a greeks definition of conservative is, we'll use the english version, ok?

    lol

  • Behold, the next British PM! Woooo!

  • Sirs, ...I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other. (Benjamine Franklin)

  • Good stuff.

  • People, people. Governments having less power over people is a good thing. But we don't get that by directly limiting governments power. We get that by empowering people in their government through true democracy. If we simply limit governments power in general then we effectively give all the power to the most wealthy multinational corporations, non-democratic institutions. Just because it's a financial institution and not a government institution doesn't make it any less totalitarian. Wake up!

  • "If we simply limit governments power in general then we effectively give all the power to the most wealthy multinational corporations, non-democratic institutions"

    You mean the same organizations whose market positions, and thus wealth and power, are wholly dependent upon and entirely derived from state privilege and subisdy? The state promotes scale, hierarchy, centrism; it promotes what is like itself. Remove the state entirely, and the decentralized network model of organization dominates.

  • You mean like the feudal era?

  • I don't know what history texts you've been reading, but back here in the real world, the feudal era was pretty hiearchical. There was the church headed by the pope at the top, then subordinate national governments headed by kings, followed by subordinate regional governments headed by "nobles", and then serfs (i.e. slaves) at the bottom. Not a decentralized network model by any stretch of the imagination. The internet, on the other hand, is an example of a decentralized network.

  • Well.. I would attempt an explanation, but this allusion was already mentioned in the actual video.

  • "I would attempt an explanation, but this allusion was already mentioned in the actual video."

    Yes, you're right, what the politician said in the video is a far more reliable and detailed source for understanding the feudal era than, say, actual books on the subject or even, dare I say, wikipedia. His vastly oversimplified little five second bit about it in that slideshow tells us everything we need to know. It's funny, I would've thought the feudal era involved some actual feudalism.

  • "dare I say, wikipedia."

    Funny you should mention Wikipedia because it actually defines it as a decentralized sociopolitical structure.

    If we removed the "state", then we would devolve back into a system with local leaders and controllers. Ultimately, they will be begin to aggregate and absorb neighbouring areas as means of competition and we'll go through the cycle once again.

    Removal of a "state" would ultimately mean we would be conquered.

  • @Jerkix Conquered by whom?

  • @Roriniho:

    Your centrally controlled neighbours lol

  • But if they don't have any, then there is n one to conquer :D